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Speaker 2: He scrugs, it is that time, Players Lounge. Anthony Dorset

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Speaker 2: flexing up here, gun show, gun show out here. Anthony Dorset,

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Speaker 2: former NFL player, Demontree Moore, former NFL player. He's very Church,

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Speaker 2: former NFL player. I'm merely NEWI scrugs. I ain't playing

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Speaker 2: in the league.

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Speaker 3: I had to touch you.

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Speaker 4: You got over there, hey boy, looking shiny over there.

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Speaker 3: All I was saying, some people got it.

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Speaker 2: By an aristocrat gaming. Yes, okay, let's get right to work.

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Speaker 2: Christian Parker, the new Dallas Cowboys defensive coordinator, met the

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Speaker 2: media along with head coach Brian Schottenheimer yesterday. Lots of

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Speaker 2: things he talked about out of the gate. People wanted

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Speaker 2: to make sure and get on the record. What kind

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Speaker 2: of defense are you running? So three four with four

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Speaker 2: to three concepts, I said multiple, multiple, multiple, three four

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Speaker 2: multiple and one of the questions Trey, I thought was

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Speaker 2: very good that you wanted to bring in here. They

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Speaker 2: asked Christian about the nickel and his defense, and he said,

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Speaker 2: it's very important.

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Speaker 4: In Philadelphia where it came from. They had Cooper de Gene.

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Speaker 2: All of Cooper came from the Big ten. You second

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Speaker 2: round pick on him. If you remember when Philly won

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, you had to pick six of Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: He was a good football player. But I remember that

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Speaker 2: the big tall player. It fell down and I was like, man,

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Speaker 2: they got him football player and they got the most

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Speaker 2: out of himself.

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Speaker 4: When they talk about having a nickel and we see what.

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Speaker 2: He came from, how do how does that look for

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys right now?

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Speaker 4: And where do you go? dB?

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Speaker 6: You know this is something that we touched on this

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Speaker 6: a little bit, you know what I'm saying. Before we

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Speaker 6: talked about actually which coach was coming in here. We

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Speaker 6: were like we were trying to guess which guy they

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Speaker 6: would pick. And then we talked about, uh, the Parker

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Speaker 6: kid from Philly, and we talked about some of the

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Speaker 6: things that he had already been.

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Speaker 7: Able to do.

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Speaker 6: As far as with Degene Dejon, how do you want

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Speaker 6: to say his last name and uh and.

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Speaker 7: Blanket Ships well, right, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: And then he was also in Denver before that too

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Speaker 6: as well, right, so he had he's been around.

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Speaker 7: Some high caliber defensive backs.

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Speaker 6: Now, one of the things that we touched on last

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Speaker 6: week was about Witherspoon, remember talking about you need to

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Speaker 6: have like I guess you could say that Swiss army

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Speaker 6: knife type dude in your defense. And of course coming

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Speaker 6: in here, you know, like like the Cowboys from ash

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Speaker 6: Rush last year and looking at how they were able

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Speaker 6: to get some more pass rusher but of course bringing

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Speaker 6: in new guys but also being able to simulate it.

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Speaker 6: And that's what you talked about too as well, like

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Speaker 6: having that dude. So hopefully they'll be able to go

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Speaker 6: out because we've talked multiple times about Jordan Lewis getting

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Speaker 6: out of the hilly, you know what I mean, and

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Speaker 6: what an impact that actually had on his defense as

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Speaker 6: far as not only for making plays, just the leadership

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Speaker 6: side of it. So with this new group coming in here,

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Speaker 6: and I think Blanket Ship is also maybe a free agent, I.

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Speaker 3: Want to say, so we can talk about him, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: But but but they're I'm sure they are going to

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Speaker 6: try to find that guy out there that that fits

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Speaker 6: that mode to befair.

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Speaker 5: Basically, he's saying, the guy is not in the house.

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Speaker 7: You've seen that guy, I don't.

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Speaker 5: I have two great DB's as co hosts.

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Speaker 8: So, like, I know, we broke it down, But do

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Speaker 8: you think that there's anybody because those guys that you

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Speaker 8: they're going to be DB's. If anything, they changed that

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Speaker 8: for that. So he's been a developer. Man, Is there

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Speaker 8: anybody on this roster right now you think he can develop?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 6: So when we look at Revel okay now, and he's

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Speaker 6: a big dude, big, big, big guy okay, but also

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Speaker 6: last year, he took a lot of bumps and bruises,

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Speaker 6: out there, you know what I'm saying. He has some

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Speaker 6: struggles here and there, but for the most part, if

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Speaker 6: you can get a young player like that, with that

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Speaker 6: much size and that much range to be able to

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Speaker 7: You never know what you got in.

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Speaker 5: Him right now, So you would move.

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Speaker 6: No, No, no, I'm not saying I'm moving anybody. I'm

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Speaker 6: saying I'm going to allow guys to be candidates. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: we're gonna We're gonna see what we got in house

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Speaker 6: right now, you know what I mean. And if we

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Speaker 6: got that in here, then that alleviates what we have

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Speaker 6: to go out and get. But you know, if we

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Speaker 6: don't see that, you know, from O TA to whatever

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Speaker 7: I didn't try to find.

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Speaker 8: So besides Revel, do you see any other dbs BC,

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Speaker 8: because that's the only one that you're mentioning right now.

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Speaker 7: Bland is a great inside dude too as well.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, So I think Bland could definitely, you know, under

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Speaker 9: the right coaching another year if he can stay healthy,

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Speaker 9: I think he can get back to that all pro level,

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Speaker 9: especially at that nickel position where it's mostly you know,

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Speaker 9: quarterbacks has out there and trying to jump those those

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Speaker 9: route concepts. And he's a smart guy and he's a

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Speaker 9: ball guy. We've seen it, you know the first couple

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Speaker 9: I mean, the guy's a special defensive back. I think

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Speaker 9: he just needs the right coaching. But when it comes

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Speaker 9: to Parker, I think this is gonna be a little

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Speaker 3: That is true way. I think it's going to be

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Speaker 3: a little bit of a process.

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Speaker 9: I don't think it's going to be quite hit the

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Speaker 9: you know, not to say it can happen in the future.

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Speaker 9: I think he can develop those guys into getting to

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Speaker 3: With that being said, you gotta have guys.

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Speaker 9: That have multiple position flex You gotta have defensive tackles

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Speaker 9: can go on the inside, linebackers that can be stout

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Speaker 9: against offensive linemen, but also running sideline to sideline, and

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Speaker 9: you got to have those guys in the back end

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Speaker 9: I mean, having a multiple defense. It's extremely tough. So

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Speaker 9: not only do you have to have the athleticism, but

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Speaker 9: you got to have the guys iq extremely high back

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Speaker 9: gonna take a while for Parker to make sure everybody's

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Speaker 9: Not saying it can't happen, but I think it's gonna

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Speaker 9: be a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Of a process.

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Speaker 2: Let me just throw a couple free agent names out here.

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Speaker 2: Now you're right about reblanking Ship. He is a free

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Speaker 2: agent solid safety too, So just look right here and

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Speaker 2: just just.

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Speaker 4: Go to safeties.

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Speaker 2: Jaylen Hawkins of New England, UH Cameron Curl the Rams,

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Speaker 2: Kevin Byard of Chicago, Brian Kansas City, Jaylen Thompson of Arizona,

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Speaker 2: Lloie Gilmot of Baltimore, Kobe Bryant of Seattle, Nick Scott

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Speaker 2: of Carolina, Nick Cross of Indy, Kevon Wallace Houston, Andre

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Speaker 2: Cisco the Jets, Jaquan Brisket, Chicago, Harrison Smith, Andrew Weigart Jacksonville,

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Speaker 2: Geno Stone Cincinnati, Avonte Maddox Detroit, Jordan Poyer UH Buffalo

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Speaker 2: obviously got Donovan Wilson of the Cowboys, Tony Adams of

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Speaker 2: the Jets, Three Blakes, Tony Jackson, Chuck Clark of Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 2: Miles Bryan and Houston. Anyway, Kyle Dugart from Pittsburgh is

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Speaker 2: out here. So that's Jalens Detroit, Jabil Peppers Pittsburgh. So

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Speaker 2: these are a couple of guys out here. That's that's

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Speaker 2: on the state market right now. That's going to dilute

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Speaker 2: a lot of funds out there. I be like hit

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Speaker 2: on the other side, we talk about corners. You got

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Speaker 2: Eric Stokes in Vegas, UH, Jalen Watson in Kansas city'

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Speaker 2: Soul Douglas of Miami, UH, Jamil Jamil Dean of Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 4: Uh Nayshaun Wright left here when Chicago had a good.

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Speaker 2: Yearne Taylor, New Orleans, UH, James Pierre Pittsburgh, Monteric Brown

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Speaker 2: of Jacksonville, Cordel Flott Giants, Jack Jones Miami. Should be

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Speaker 2: a woozy A Baltimore former Cowboys of Seattle Chauncey Guard

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Speaker 2: Johnson from Chicago. Trayvon Diggs is a free agent, all right,

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Speaker 2: Samuel Jr.

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Speaker 4: Is a free agent.

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Speaker 2: Rock rock y'all sin, He's a freege Jayalen Davis Cincinnati's

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Speaker 3: I'm getting old, bro.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of these cats, I'm like, oh, they

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Speaker 2: was rookie cast and just some names that are out

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Speaker 2: the question starts to become if the nickel is as

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Speaker 2: critical as he's saying, do you go hit this in

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Speaker 2: free agency got versus waiting for the draft, because free

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Speaker 2: agency starts in March, draft is in April.

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Speaker 9: You got think, in my opinion, you gotta go free

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Speaker 9: agent wise and get an experienced guy. You may draft

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Speaker 9: somebody later on to learn underneath the vet, but with

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Speaker 9: this multiple defense and the nickel being such an important

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Speaker 9: part of this defense, you gotta have a guy that's experienced,

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Speaker 9: whether it's in his system or been around you know,

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Speaker 9: other systems that are similar to this, Because, like I said,

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Speaker 9: you might have that safety in the back end and

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Speaker 9: be able to orchestrate, but you gotta have somebody close

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Speaker 9: to the line of scrimmage as well. I know you

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Speaker 9: got linebackers and all that, but the linebackers they're focused

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Speaker 9: on the makers for d lines and the right gaps

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Speaker 9: and all this. You gotta have that nickel in there.

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Speaker 9: That's experience that I think can you know, can take

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Speaker 9: this defense to the next level. And you got a

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Speaker 9: guy like Bland that could play outside, and I think

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Speaker 9: he's better on the inside than outside. So you might

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Speaker 9: have a guy in that position already, but you gotta

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Speaker 3: They got the nickel position right.

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Speaker 8: In my opinion, and I know I'm the d lineman

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Speaker 8: doing it, but I've been privileged to play in a

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Speaker 8: lot of three four multiple schemes, and with everything that's

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Speaker 8: coming in Bland, I think, like you said, when he

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Speaker 8: had his most production, he was right there and I

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Speaker 8: think he can really get back to that pro Bowl

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Speaker 8: mentality under the guidance of him. But I see it

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Speaker 2: This is the dude is you've seen you guys play.

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 4: Is he that good that you want to do that?

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Speaker 4: But he's not going to come back.

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Speaker 5: We don't know that.

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Speaker 2: No, no, he's not. He ain't come to camp. This

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Speaker 4: Time he done it.

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Speaker 8: It's not about what he's done. And they can speak

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Speaker 8: I'm a good vet.

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Speaker 5: If I play special team, that's gonna give me an

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Speaker 9: I really love you short to squeeze, not if you

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Speaker 6: The thing about Clowney is this, and like you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: And piggyback on what you're saying here, DEMI okay. So

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Speaker 2: if he's not gonna be here training Kevin, he's not

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Speaker 2: And so that's my thing of we bring up his name.

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Speaker 2: I'll see you guys in September. I don't think you

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Speaker 2: that really what you want to do? I wouldn't want.

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Speaker 2: And he's not And when I say Jews, I don't

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Speaker 8: He's not. He's not Aaron Rodgers. He's definitely not worth

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Speaker 8: this is the contract you're gonna take, and can you

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Speaker 5: Can we count on you?

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Speaker 8: If we can't count on you for training camp, we

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Speaker 2: You guys are former defensive football players. What is that

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Speaker 2: I have new Scruggs. Okay, new DC coming in here,

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Speaker 2: obviously looking more for three four schemes and running four

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Speaker 2: three concepts. As former players, when you get a new

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Speaker 2: DC in here, who's gonna change the front a little bit?

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Speaker 4: Terminology the thing? What are the things that you have

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Speaker 4: to learn?

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Speaker 2: What is the work that you as a player have

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Speaker 2: to do now to learn what it is these coaches want.

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Speaker 9: When I so in my younger career, like when first started,

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Speaker 9: I had who was in there, Pascalone, he was in there,

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Speaker 9: you know, Wade, Paul Pascaloni.

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Speaker 3: Wade was in there a little bit, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I had him in there.

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Speaker 9: I had Wade, and then of course we had you know,

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Speaker 9: Kiffin and Marinelli and all them. And it was tough

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Speaker 9: as a as a younger player coming in here because

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Speaker 9: each year was different, and each year was Rob Ryan

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Speaker 9: as well. We had one of the hardest defensive playbooks

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Speaker 9: I've ever come across.

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Speaker 3: But it was tough because you weren't used to the terminology.

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Speaker 9: And you know how certain coaches want to run cover

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Speaker 9: three versus Cover two because there's so many different variations

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Speaker 9: and variables that you know, each defensive coach has when

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Speaker 9: they run a simple Cover three or a simple Cover two.

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Speaker 9: Sometimes they like to have the safety down, sometimes they

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Speaker 9: like to have the corners. There's so many so backwards.

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Speaker 9: So as a younger player, I really struggle with that.

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Speaker 9: But as I became a veteran and I had you know,

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Speaker 9: the Marinelli's and then the Todd Washes and all those guys,

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Speaker 9: it came a lot easier because I was experienced. So

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Speaker 9: I say, okay, I'm gonna going to Jacksonville. It's the

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Speaker 9: same coverage here. The terminology is is a little bit different,

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Speaker 9: that's it. So in my mind, I would take from

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Speaker 9: what I had with the Cowboys to Jacksonville and say, Okay,

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Speaker 9: this is what they mean when they say we want to,

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Speaker 9: you know, drop safety in there.

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Speaker 3: They call it Larry. We called it lou over here.

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Speaker 9: So I just kind of got the terminology, and I

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Speaker 9: got that down first before I kind of got the

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Speaker 9: defense to kind of know it like the back of

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Speaker 9: my hands.

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Speaker 3: So for me it was easier older, but younger it

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Speaker 3: was tough. It was tough.

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Speaker 7: You hope that you've been in the situation.

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Speaker 6: Of course, if you had a new DC coming in

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Speaker 6: that you have some familiarity with some of the things

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Speaker 6: that he likes to call to as well. You know,

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Speaker 6: like there are only so many courverages once you get

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Speaker 6: down to it. You know, you could go zero through

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Speaker 6: six or how do you want to break them down?

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Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, like as a

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Speaker 6: defensive back, you really really want to have some type

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Speaker 6: of I guess basis of all of them from zero, one, two, three, four,

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Speaker 6: you know. And so then with that, just like Barry said,

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Speaker 6: it's about that's like creating terminology and like comparing it

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Speaker 6: to this, you know what I mean? Over here, we

505
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Speaker 6: rock and rolled over here. We're gonna go shifting down,

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean. And it's just one of

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Speaker 6: those type of things through repetition and as you're actually

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Speaker 6: you know, taking your notes and stuff like that.

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Speaker 7: But the majority of football players are great visual learners.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so say explain to the listeners here when you

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Speaker 2: talk in viewers about what rock and roll may mean

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Speaker 2: to twitch it.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So, so say me and Barry plans safety. We're

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Speaker 6: both in the safeties, and we're more so interchangeable safeties.

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Speaker 7: We don't have to be as strong. He doesn't have

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Speaker 7: to be.

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Speaker 6: A free motion comes across the formation dictates something needs

518
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Speaker 6: to happen in the backfield. In the secondary, we don't

519
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Speaker 6: got to move. Hey, yo, I'll go down, you go back.

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Speaker 6: We're rocking and rolling. We're communicating with each other, letting

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Speaker 6: him know that I'll take his responsibility now he takes mine,

522
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Speaker 6: all right. And so, and like I was saying, primarily

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Speaker 6: most football players, like y'all know, we're great visual learners.

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Speaker 6: You show us something on video, we can nine times

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Speaker 6: out of ten go out there and do it.

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Speaker 7: And that's part of the film study.

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Speaker 6: Anyway, especially as a young player, you're always trying to

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Speaker 6: find little things from other people's game that you could

529
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Speaker 6: actually put into your game. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 6: to add to your to your bag as we like

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Speaker 6: to say. So with that being said, you know you

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Speaker 6: got the terminology, then you got the video to go

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Speaker 6: along with it, and you just hope that between that

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Speaker 6: and the communication that's actually being done in the room,

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Speaker 6: that it all comes together.

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Speaker 2: So when you say rock and roll, yes, is that

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Speaker 2: where you guys are talking with each other on the field.

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Speaker 4: And you just look at it as a rock and roll.

539
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Speaker 3: So it's emotion.

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Speaker 9: So like let's just say the strength is on the

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Speaker 9: left side, so there's more receivers on the left than

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Speaker 9: there is on the right. They bring one of those

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Speaker 9: receivers from the left over to the right to make

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Speaker 9: the right to strength. Now we're just rocking and rolling responsibilities.

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Speaker 9: So if I'm on a strong safety, I'm on the

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Speaker 9: strong side right here, and I got I'm down in

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Speaker 9: the hook.

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Speaker 2: So the story tripping over here and then put a

549
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Speaker 2: man in motion over here, it makes it two by two,

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Speaker 2: and now he becomes the free safety and I become

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Speaker 2: the strong safety instead of vice versa.

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Speaker 4: And so you're calling it rock and roll.

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Speaker 2: You're saying, the terminology may be different than now rock

554
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Speaker 2: and roll means what.

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Speaker 6: Now rock and roll could be like Larry, like lind

556
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Speaker 6: and Larry, or or just whatever whatever the turn terminology

557
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Speaker 6: they using that team to let to let each other know,

558
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Speaker 6: like Hey, you go down, I'm going back or whatever.

559
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Speaker 9: If you're on the right side, it's always a word

560
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Speaker 9: that starts with an R. So on the left side

561
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Speaker 9: you're coming down, Hey Larry, Larry, that means the left

562
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Speaker 9: safety is coming down. If they switched motions and now

563
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Speaker 9: the strength is on the right side, ring ring Rocky,

564
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Speaker 9: that means that's the right side safety is coming down.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's pretty and.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, just just something that is simple. You guys know,

567
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Speaker 2: I want to make sure people out there better understanding

568
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Speaker 2: of that. So now that's that's that's pretty flat.

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Speaker 9: And then if you're going dropping into the hook, which

570
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Speaker 9: is like the hook area, then it's a different L

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Speaker 9: and R word.

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Speaker 2: So just even based on what you're saying, Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: important to get people in here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean in the off season.

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Speaker 6: One of the things we talked about last year watching

576
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Speaker 6: the Cowboys on defense is that it was never any

577
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Speaker 6: pre snap communication, like never, it was never like anybody

578
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Speaker 6: saw a formation. It was like recognized the play, saw

579
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Speaker 6: emotion coming. It was it was never not of that,

580
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Speaker 6: you know what I mean. And so you really want

581
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Speaker 6: to get to a place that like as as as

582
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Speaker 6: a play is coming or developing or something like that,

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Speaker 6: or whether it be from the hit chart. And if

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Speaker 6: chart is your tendency chart. There's some players out there

586
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Speaker 6: who don't even study video as much as they study tendencies,

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Speaker 6: all right, so they know on third down they go

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Speaker 6: to a trips formation and such and such as to

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Speaker 6: gonna be two plays called out of that, right, And

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Speaker 6: so when you have that type of stuff going on,

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Speaker 6: it makes and it helps for guys to just be

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Speaker 6: able to eliminate plays before they happen.

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Speaker 9: And if you watch them defenses, you'll see if you

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Speaker 9: So watch this there's always talking, always moving, and then

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Better defenses are always talking, whether you're talking to the

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Speaker 4: You have fun out there, trained.

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Speaker 3: Let me know.

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Speaker 5: I'm a get it.

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Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm good.

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Speaker 4: I'm good.

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Speaker 2: I got Anthwer, Barry Church, Traymore, all three former NFL players,

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Speaker 2: and then we strugg This is a player's line.

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Speaker 4: Poty by Aristocrat Game.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so Charles Davis love Charles Davis thinks an excellent

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Speaker 2: broadcast came out with one of his mock drafts. So

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Speaker 2: at twenty he's got the Cowboys going to the University

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Speaker 2: of Toledo.

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Speaker 4: Oh, you are going to Toledo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for Emmanuel McNeil Warren.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's the safety Yes, safety day. Okay. So now

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Speaker 4: here's also kind of my thought process. Bring it to

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Speaker 4: you guys.

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Speaker 2: Now, when Christian Parker was in Philly, they took the

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Speaker 2: corner from Toledo Quantanamo Bay ended up being a part

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Speaker 2: of their Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Team DBU day. That's what they said, you guys.

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Speaker 16: Some people say so you so you guys know there

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Speaker 16: are some coaches who have an affinity for players who

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Speaker 16: come from certain programs that they have success, like they

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Speaker 16: understand the technique, that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if he's that kind of guy, But

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Speaker 4: when I throw that out.

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Speaker 2: There, if you are Parker and you know, hey, look

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Speaker 2: here's a position. Not sure if he could play the

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Speaker 2: nickel here or not not sure, but but you do

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Speaker 2: have a safety concern. And you got Maleik Hooker getting

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Speaker 2: older here, so it's not like it's not something you

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Speaker 2: you know, you don't need, and you got Donnald Wilson's

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Speaker 2: a free agent looking at a player like that.

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Speaker 4: What you thought.

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Speaker 7: I like it.

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Speaker 3: I like it.

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Speaker 9: I mean, you bring some youth in there. This is

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Speaker 9: a guy I don't know about the nicolas. I don't

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Speaker 9: know how you know how his feet are or anything

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Speaker 9: like that. But as a safety, he can play both

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Speaker 9: free and strong. He can play in the box, he

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Speaker 9: can play on the deep end. I've seen him be

702
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Speaker 9: able to be that red line the red line safety,

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Speaker 9: and for those who don't know what that is, it

704
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Speaker 9: is six or five yards from the line of from

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Speaker 9: the from the sideline. A safety is supposed to be

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Speaker 9: able to get to that point on either side when

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Speaker 9: there's a deep So he got the range.

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Speaker 6: Ball twenty five yards in the era more to get

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Speaker 6: to that red line.

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Speaker 9: You should be able to if you're if you're a

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Speaker 9: good rangey deep safety, you should be able to do that.

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Speaker 3: So he has the ability to do that.

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Speaker 9: Now, I don't know the defense they played in Toledo,

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Speaker 9: so I don't know how if he was back there

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Speaker 9: calling plays or making sure everybody's lined up, because you

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Speaker 9: do need one of those guys for the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 9: as a deeper safety.

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Speaker 3: But I like it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's a good spot. And where was

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Speaker 9: Parker at when I was getting drafted. You don't have

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Speaker 9: so much when I was getting drafted.

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Speaker 3: But I like it. Man. Of course it's the home team,

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Speaker 3: so I like it exactly that age we see you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that from what we saw him on

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Speaker 6: just the clips the other day that it was in

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Speaker 6: the group chat with us, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 6: the play that he made coming from the middle of

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Speaker 6: the field, head turning and getting back.

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Speaker 7: Over to the opposite side of the field.

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Speaker 6: Like not taking away from any of the guys that

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Speaker 6: we've seen in the secondary here this past year, but

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Speaker 6: I didn't see that. I didn't see anybody make that

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Speaker 6: play from the Cowboys last year, all right, and just

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Speaker 6: his field awareness and just what were those few little

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Speaker 6: clips that we were able to see the other day,

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Speaker 6: Like I was, I was pretty impressed. Now, I don't

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Speaker 6: know who he was playing against, but like just his

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Speaker 6: body controlling what he was able to do. Yeah, that

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Speaker 6: he has a high upside and so like if he's

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Speaker 6: actually there and and that's the pick of twenty and

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Speaker 6: then you know.

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Speaker 7: Like it goes on to say, like who's the dB

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Speaker 7: coach at Toledo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 7: You know, like it might be that dude as well. Yeah,

746
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Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: And so like the coaches from Philly or from wherever

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Speaker 6: else may recognize that, hey, that's a solid dB coach

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Speaker 6: over there. He's equipping these dudes with the skills that

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Speaker 6: they need before they get here. So let's you know,

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Speaker 6: let's keep going back over there and see what he's

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Speaker 6: producing that pipeline over there.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I brought up here to say, hey,

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Speaker 2: wait a minute, there's something there. And you guys are

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Speaker 2: forming football players you all know and play the programs

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Speaker 2: where you saw guys come through that after a while,

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Speaker 2: you know, what's in the water is just I go

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Speaker 2: back to to my my friend Dennis Dermots the USC.

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Speaker 2: He's a upper classman, just freshman falling around named Ronny Lot.

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Speaker 7: That's crazy and you know, you.

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Speaker 4: You know what would follow good? Okay, what did he do?

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Speaker 2: You know, you get some of the smart was like, okay,

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Speaker 2: let me just walk this this road he's been on here,

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Speaker 2: So anyway, I mean, it's it's having Trayvon Diggs and

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Speaker 2: Patrick Tretan back there in the same backfield the University

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Speaker 2: of Alabama. I okay, the concepts are going on here.

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Speaker 2: And the Nick Saban and Kirby Smart what they had

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Speaker 2: developed through the years. NFL teams. Okay, we like these guys.

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Speaker 2: They're coming here with a concept of what we want

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Speaker 2: to do. So that's why I thought about that. The

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Speaker 2: kid they took from Philly from Toledo turned out to

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Speaker 2: be a heck of a football player for them, got

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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl ring. So if this young man is

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Speaker 2: his safety, he's played with him, and they can have

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Speaker 2: somebody some of the same mindset. Maybe that's where a

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Speaker 2: Christian parker says, maybe I want that. That's just my

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Speaker 2: thought without talking to anybody, just just me thinking and

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Speaker 2: just seeing how things work from time to time.

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Speaker 8: Coaches, coaches, they typically just like players. They're ritualistic. I

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Speaker 8: guess I made up that word right there, but they don't.

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Speaker 8: They don't what they say. If it ain't broken, don't

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Speaker 8: fix it. I think of my ten year when I

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Speaker 8: was at the Panthers, Matt Rule. He loved like his guys,

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Speaker 8: like he brought in his guys. You think about guys

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Speaker 8: like Pete Carroll that I played up under. He loved

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Speaker 8: his guys like he coached those guys and brought them

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Speaker 8: into there. So when you talk about him bringing in

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Speaker 8: Toledo a younger guy and having the success that he

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Speaker 8: has had with these dbs. I think it is gonna be.

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Speaker 8: I think it's a great fit actually, and not even

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Speaker 8: just so much as what he can do get in dept.

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Speaker 8: Because you don't have no debt right now. You're trying

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Speaker 8: to go out there. This might be one of those

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Speaker 8: drafts where you'll see them draft three or four dbs,

795
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Speaker 8: or if you go get you a vet during free agency,

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Speaker 8: you're gonna come in there in that whole new season.

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Speaker 8: It's like four or five dbs walking into the room

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Speaker 8: and you already got everybody on the roster.

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Speaker 5: It's like the wild Wild West. We're gonna shoot it out. Now.

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Speaker 8: The bigger question is does the head man, Jerry and

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Speaker 8: everybody else like that pick. Because CEP can go in

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Speaker 8: there and this is what's gonna tell us right now

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Speaker 8: for viewers and y'all who are listening out there, go

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Speaker 8: out there and watch it. If he gets this guy

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Speaker 8: and gets this pick, that lets you know that Jerry says,

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Speaker 8: I believe in my DC. I'm giving him the tools

807
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 8: like I did with Dan Quinn. If they go offensive,

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00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 8: old lineman somebody else and this and that. It's like, hey,

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Speaker 8: hold on, maybe you're not as important.

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Speaker 2: No, see, I'll disagree with you from this standpoint. I

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Speaker 2: go back to when Cede Lamb was drafted. I remember

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Speaker 2: we did the Monk drafts. Barry you and I were.

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Speaker 3: Like, they need to take Digs.

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Speaker 2: They take Diggs and here Ceedee Lamb, clearly one of

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Speaker 2: the best wide receivers in college football.

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Speaker 4: They were like five guys, four or five guys go.

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Speaker 2: Before him, and they were like, we gotta take him,

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Speaker 2: even though they had Amari Cooper and they have Michael

819
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Speaker 2: Gallupyre Like, this dude right here, we gotta take him.

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Speaker 4: And so Stevens even.

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Speaker 2: Said, we are not going to marry ourselves to a

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Speaker 2: defensive player because if somebody wants to do something.

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Speaker 4: This dumb, like a great playoff, We're gonna do that.

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Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 8: But you still gotta Yes, there's some talent where it's

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Speaker 8: like this guy dropped, we gotta take him.

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Speaker 5: But for that's what it goes in the draft.

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Speaker 8: Let's say everything goes as playing and where it is

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Speaker 8: right there and nobody drops like that has amazing star power.

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Speaker 5: That's a running back or something like that.

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Speaker 8: You're gonna see you in that first pick of like, hey,

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Speaker 8: we're gonna give it to we're gonna give CPN let

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Speaker 8: him good, or we're gonna give the carpenter his tool.

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Speaker 2: You gotta have a Okay, I understand you want a

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Speaker 2: blueprint and this is what we think we want to do,

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Speaker 2: but you can't necessarily be married to because you don't

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Speaker 2: know who's that. I remember, all right, the Broncos are

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Speaker 2: gonna take a quarterback. One year, they were gonna take

839
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Speaker 2: a quarterback, but then they had Bradley Chubb fall to

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Speaker 2: him and they're like, well, you know this is a

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Speaker 2: premier defensive in out of NC state. This guy to

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Speaker 2: put up numbers, and they said, no, we're gonna go

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Speaker 2: with Bradley Chubb. Now, the unfortunate thing is the quarterback

844
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Speaker 2: he was gonna take what was this dude name Josha.

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Speaker 4: So so this saying, you know, it can go either way,

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Speaker 4: it can go.

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Speaker 3: You know what.

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Speaker 2: The Cowboys got lucky that they got digs in the

849
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Speaker 2: second round. They got seen the land first. So so Treyl,

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying is you can have a kind of Hey,

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Speaker 2: we want to help secure our defense. But you've got

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Speaker 2: to be open enough to say, hey, man, I won't

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Speaker 2: be married because there's something that is sitting. I mean,

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Speaker 2: think of how many people passed on Aaron Rodgers. Well

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Speaker 2: we got this Tennessee passed on twice. You know, Randy Moss,

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Speaker 2: the same thing where people were passing on the guy

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Speaker 2: Lamar Lamar.

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Speaker 5: So some guys you can't pass on.

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Speaker 8: But it's like, and I'm not saying I'm married to

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Speaker 8: the dB pick because I'm biased. I'm gonna go look

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Speaker 8: for a pass rusher. I think that, like, especially in

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Speaker 8: the three four scheme, is switching everything up. Like I

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Speaker 8: just more so say, if you get a defensive pick

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Speaker 8: in this first pick, I see that as a tail

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Speaker 8: as being a former player, like you trust in your

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Speaker 8: DC as a player. That's here, Kenny Clark, one of

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Speaker 8: the big three headed Horsemen's this down there. If they

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Speaker 8: go get the defensive player, I'm saying, hey.

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Speaker 5: My owner is over here.

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Speaker 8: He's really trying to build in us and like believes

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Speaker 8: in what we're saying versus overloading an offense that was

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Speaker 8: already number one and what.

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Speaker 5: They did last year.

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Speaker 8: So that shows me where the respect goes in the

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Speaker 8: first pick.

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Speaker 6: I think that regardless of if it's a pick or not,

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Speaker 6: one thing that Parker is definitely gonna have to do.

878
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 6: He's gonna have to get somebody in here that's that's

879
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 6: familiar with his with his system, all right, You're gonna

880
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 6: have to have that voice that transcends from the sideline

881
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 6: to on the field. And if he brings in a

882
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 6: VET that's actually played with him as well and it's

883
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 6: been part of his system somewhere else, I think that's

884
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 6: gonna be a big benefit regardless of who they taking

885
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 6: the draft and who they pick up wherever else.

886
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 7: You got to get his voice on the field somewhere.

887
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 6: So if it's the safety, if it's a back, or

888
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 6: whatever the case may be. And right now, we know

889
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 6: we keep talking about the DB's and the nickel, but

890
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 6: we know the Cowboys have got to get stronger linebacker.

891
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 9: They got one of them younger guts from Philly who's

892
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 9: a free agent, the linebacker n Kobe Dean.

893
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he was out there a little.

894
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 8: And not so much as get a VET, just get

895
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 8: somebody that sound does mentally sound, because like you said,

896
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 8: when you become a VET, it's not so much as

897
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 8: the technique we all can get that.

898
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 5: We got the technique getting here.

899
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 8: It's more so the terminology and if you can get

900
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 8: somebody to say a journeyman that's been productive, or somebody

901
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 8: that say, hey, I can rationalize this and say, oh,

902
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 8: all the states are covered to all the you know

903
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 8: this right here, and I can box this in here

904
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 8: and get in here and learn. That's going to be

905
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 8: the most important part. Who can learn on the fly

906
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Speaker 8: when you're coming here.

907
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Speaker 2: Well, the beauty of it is they've got they've got

908
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 2: a lot of options and we're starting to see now

909
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 2: just a little bit what they've got. The defensive staff

910
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 2: is set here. They have a vision of what they

911
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 2: want to do, and that's half the battle.

912
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 4: What is our vision? Who are we? Where do we

913
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 4: want to go? So it's good to see the.

914
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 2: Brian Schottenheimer's got his guy in here and they're going

915
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 2: to go forward. That The beauty is, you know, we're

916
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: running out of time here in February, so we're about

917
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: to hit free agency.

918
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 4: In March, coming coming up in April.

919
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 2: A lot of stuff to do and get done here

920
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 2: Thanks week combine next.

921
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Speaker 8: Week, so we're gonna start seeing underwear lists.

922
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 9: If you run slow don't run, go ahead.

923
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 6: Tossing me out. When I ran into somebody that run good,

924
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 6: you don't say nothing to me. You ran good, don't

925
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 6: say nothing to me the other way hold on another player. Yes, yes,

926
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 6: it goes like that.

927
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 5: It was bad.

928
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Speaker 7: It t.

929
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Speaker 8: If you don't run, Hey, don't run to check my tape, man,

930
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 8: check the tape. I'm glad that they could do that

931
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 8: now that they got the power and option. I wish,

932
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 8: I wish, I wish I could have told them go

933
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 8: watch my tape.

934
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: I left the So what do you just say, I'm

935
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: not going run to you like, hey, man, I got

936
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: the sore, hemmy, what do you.

937
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 3: Use when when I had to run and I ran

938
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 3: slows when.

939
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Speaker 8: I came out, That's when people started using injuries. But now,

940
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 8: like I'm talking to my agent, some people just tell

941
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 8: them straight up run I know it. PROD or something

942
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 8: has is the biggest one that I feel like that

943
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 8: started that trend in the twenty thirteen draft where he

944
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 8: said I don't need to do this like I'm going here,

945
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 8: and everybody said, oh, now that we got the power,

946
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Speaker 8: we're doing it.

947
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 2: So or we just be like Dion, say you come there,

948
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Speaker 2: run take your shoes and I'm done.

949
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Speaker 4: Let's say I'm not doing anything else. You just saw

950
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Speaker 4: it to do now and.

951
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Speaker 2: My goodness, gracious deon Dion's right, Anthony Door said Ray More,

952
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Speaker 2: Barry Church on New he Scruggs for Chris Bean, Josh,

953
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Speaker 2: everybody makes it here happen.

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