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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast gloves a good defensive struggle

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Speaker 1: front of the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's Around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dan jnsas heroes here, Greg Rosenhal, Mark Sessler. I

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Speaker 1: like a defensive struggle. When it works out for a team,

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Speaker 1: it's great, it's awesome. Nasty little uh, nasty little fang.

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Speaker 1: This Sunday Football Sunday, right yeah, but a bit of

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Speaker 1: a come down from last week. And I don't even

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Speaker 1: mean that obviously with what would happened with the Jets today,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna get to that later. But just like

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Speaker 1: it's almost like Sunday Football Sunday woke up on the

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Speaker 1: wrong side of the bed and was just like, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go about my business, but I'm just gonna stick

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Speaker 1: it to some people today, like just a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a weird vibe to some of these games outside

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Speaker 1: of the Jets. What what do you mean the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Vikings being the premier game of the weekend. I know

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to it and being a total no show.

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Speaker 1: That was a big and then I look them and

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Speaker 1: it this is universally, even though I'm referring to the

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Speaker 1: league of record and fantasy that no one cares about,

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Speaker 1: but like sub one points scores all over the place,

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Speaker 1: feel like there are a lot of strange happenings in

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Speaker 1: our league. Uh in this Sunday, did we get some

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Speaker 1: clarity in the league? I don't know. I think you

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Speaker 1: know what, I think it did a little bit with

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Speaker 1: a couple of teams, and Greg and I were talking

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Speaker 1: Giants where there's been all this like national complaint about

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Speaker 1: their records being inflated. Well, maybe we're getting a little

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Speaker 1: bit closer to what the records are. I don't really

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Speaker 1: this point. But maybe these teams deserved a little bit

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Speaker 1: bit of a regression week. I like that some of

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Speaker 1: these teams UM Ravens took the week off on offense,

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Speaker 1: one's calling for that four days ago. Texans are still

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Speaker 1: playing this season right fielding the team UM. For some

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Speaker 1: fan basis, it was kind of like a swallow of

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Speaker 1: the sadness Sunday, you know, and we're gonna get to

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Speaker 1: all that. But one of those fan bases surprisingly turned

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Speaker 1: out to be the Minnesota Vikings, who entered week eleven

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Speaker 1: with just one loss ride and high welcome him in

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Speaker 1: a Cowboys team licking its wounds after a tough loss

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Speaker 1: in green against green Bay, and then this happened. Snap

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Speaker 1: back to Prescott. He's got a lot of time deep

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Speaker 1: down the right side. Oh it's taught at Forty Pollard

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Speaker 1: ten Pollard, Tony Pollard on third and fifteen. Good night, nurse,

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Speaker 1: Yes nice, called by Brad Sham the Sham God k

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Speaker 1: r L D. Uncle is right, Because just when you

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Speaker 1: could start to talk yourselves into the Vikings getting a

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Speaker 1: stop and maybe getting on a second half bender there

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Speaker 1: to make that game interesting, Tony Pollard goes off for

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Speaker 1: a second touchdown catch of the game. He finished with

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Speaker 1: a career high on nine yards from scrimmage. The Cowboys

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Speaker 1: sack Kirk Cousins seven times. That's the most he's ever

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Speaker 1: been sacked in the game. And when it was all over,

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Speaker 1: when the carnage had completed, when the dust cleared, the

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Speaker 1: Vikings seven game win streak over because the Cowboys won

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Speaker 1: forty three. Greg, what did you see in this game?

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Speaker 1: Because this was this was a first overall draft pick

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Speaker 1: in our draft on Thursday for you. We were expecting

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Speaker 1: this to be a great, back and forth, close game,

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Speaker 1: and instead it turned out to the biggest blow out

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Speaker 1: me that once again my first overall draft pick went bust.

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Speaker 1: I think it's fair common guys are calling this like

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Speaker 1: the JaMarcus Russell of number one overall drafts and it's

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Speaker 1: swallow the sadness Sunday for you too. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I was disappointed. He's just trying to leave the booth

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Speaker 1: by the third quarter, Tony Romo in a big spot

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Speaker 1: in an NFC game I was interested in as but

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Speaker 1: I like good football, and so I wasn't as disappointed.

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Speaker 1: Some blocks can be entertaining, and watching the Cowboys play

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Speaker 1: this well was entertaining. Let's just start with the offense,

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Speaker 1: because when Dak Prescott is playing this clean and you

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Speaker 1: give Zeke some touchdowns at the goal line to make

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Speaker 1: him feel that you can start them in the game,

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Speaker 1: which they did. But Jones happy, right, Let's be real.

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Speaker 1: Tony Pollard is the lead back here. You mentioned his

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Speaker 1: total yardage over a hundred yards of that was over

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Speaker 1: expectation according to next Gen stats, and he's so good

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Speaker 1: in terms of breaking tackles and making people miss and

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Speaker 1: getting yards after contact. Leads the league in that. But Dad,

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Speaker 1: to me was the key. The Vikings had one quarterback

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Speaker 1: pointed out it was also a dirty Peter at one point,

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Speaker 1: You ago, But Dak has been up and down, I

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Speaker 1: think since he's come back. But his throws in this

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Speaker 1: the games over at that point. It almost feels like

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Speaker 1: and Mike McCarthy stays aggressive, They keep dancing the ball

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Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like there's gonna be time. Great pass

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Speaker 1: that sixt yard bomb by Mayor. And it just got

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Speaker 1: me thinking, like, this offense, when it's that aggressive, is

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Speaker 1: I think it's as much about the Cowboys defense. And

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Speaker 1: we've talked about the Vikings and the Vikings fans don't

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Speaker 1: like to hear this about how they'll take Nash well,

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Speaker 1: you know, he texted me and said, no, this is

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Speaker 1: a disaster. So there, I think, you know you're right now,

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Speaker 1: level headed Viking. What else, of course, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think they Vikings fans probably they were probably like waiting

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if this is a hangover

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Speaker 1: so weird because last week didn't it changed what I

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Speaker 1: it's not rankings on rankings crime. If I bring it up,

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Speaker 1: you did not. You did not jumped into that in

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Speaker 1: And I don't think it races what happened. I do

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Speaker 1: That was an emotional game, uh, you know, in the

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Speaker 1: America's team coming in your building and the game of

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Speaker 1: It's the fact that it was both sides that were

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Speaker 1: absolutely steam rolled. The offensive line was terrible in this game.

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins had no chance. He was just pressured. Although

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Speaker 1: more on Kirk. So it's like everyone had problems and

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Speaker 1: the Vikings defense, who to me isn't that special, gave

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Speaker 1: And it reminds me of like when we were all

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Speaker 1: just felt like this is not gonna work in this game.

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Speaker 1: When it when when it reached ultra disaster, sir right

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Speaker 1: out of it with Micah Parsons destroying Kirk Cousins, It's

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Speaker 1: like they never appeared again. That was it. That was

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Speaker 1: are a team that was UM eight and one with

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Speaker 1: a minus point differential. These are facts around the team

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Speaker 1: they want, all right. So now they're eight and two

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Speaker 1: of the minus point differential. That doesn't mean they're bad.

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Speaker 1: That just means that there have been multiple coin flip

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Speaker 1: never as good as their record was indicating. So I'm

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Speaker 1: and if you beat the Patriots, it's kind of all

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Speaker 1: the next week. Now, Kevin O'Connell said they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: could be a multi week injury. And you mentioned there's

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Speaker 1: been other injuries. They had to play Andrew Booth, who

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Speaker 1: was a really high pick for them. Was he their

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Speaker 1: I think he was their first round pick. He had

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Speaker 1: has been benched all year. He's been there like fifth

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Speaker 1: some some leaks springing up. When when I see this

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Speaker 1: game from Dak Prescott, I mean, you were right, he's

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Speaker 1: he's a little bit round, a little bit hot and cold.

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. That throw to Ceedee Lamb, which by the way,

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Speaker 1: he was like one his arms were like one point

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Speaker 1: but it's like that that it was an incredible throw

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Speaker 1: and then incredible catching, like him and Lamb together, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it off the crossbar like that was a play that

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Speaker 1: I've seen a lot out of mac Jones this year,

430
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Speaker 1: where it felt like the first reads weren't there and

431
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Speaker 1: he just sort of then waited for the sack, and

432
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Speaker 1: that you didn't see a lot of that last year,

433
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Speaker 1: but you know, he was defensive. Both quarterbacks were a

434
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Speaker 1: little defensive after the game, but he Mac Jones was

435
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Speaker 1: a little defensive saying what you said, which is like, hey,

436
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Speaker 1: we moved the ball. Uh, you know, we we gotta

437
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Speaker 1: capitalize on our opportunities better, but we moved the ball.

438
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Speaker 1: There were things to build off of here. Yeah, And

439
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: you know on the Jet side, I mean it like

440
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 1: with the the Jet game against the Patriots three weeks

441
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: ago felt like such an important game for Zack Wilson.

442
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Speaker 1: So when he bombed that game out, for me, it

443
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: lowered my expectations of him a little bit. And then

444
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Speaker 1: this game comes off the top turn buckle and it's like, personally,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's the guy. I know. I know

446
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of Jets fans are saying, still, we

447
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 1: gotta give this a little more time. But this is

448
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Speaker 1: a type of game that I will remember, that Jets

449
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: fans will remember as a guy that looks skittish and

450
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 1: scared and couldn't shoot straight. And then after the game,

451
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: to compound matters, um he's asked by the media um

452
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Speaker 1: his thoughts on a game where he couldn't get a

453
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Speaker 1: complete pass in a big spot to save his life

454
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Speaker 1: when the defense playing out of its mind. And this

455
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Speaker 1: is what he had to say as an offense though,

456
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Speaker 1: I mean, you guys are only able to score free

457
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Speaker 1: points the defense and when let's have freefouns, I mean,

458
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Speaker 1: do you do you feel like you let the defense down?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's the wrong answer because it's an

460
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Speaker 1: easy one. That sets a layup. That's media one oh one.

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Speaker 1: As the quarterback, you represent the offense, you say, yes,

462
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Speaker 1: we did. The defense played great. The special teams outside

463
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Speaker 1: of that play they really played well. We need to

464
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Speaker 1: be better. So then you leave it to your rookie

465
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Speaker 1: wide receiver Garrett Wilson to speak the way that the

466
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks should be speaking, which leads to disconnecting questions about

467
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Speaker 1: the locker room. Here's Garrett Wilson. It's not okay, I

468
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Speaker 1: mean straight up, and he's not okay. How many? How

469
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Speaker 1: a little round? Not not not gonna fly? So, um,

470
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: you know we got the dudes. It's time, you know,

471
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 1: it's time to be consistent. It's time to start winning

472
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: and the games we should win. It's time to do

473
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Speaker 1: all that they had. They had more punts than Zach

474
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Speaker 1: Wilson had completions and more punts than they had second

475
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Speaker 1: half yards, ten punts, and the they had two yards

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Speaker 1: in the second half. And beyond yeah, two yards and

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Speaker 1: seven possessions. Behind all the gnarly stats, beyond that, beyond

478
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Speaker 1: the words you heard there, you see it on the

479
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Speaker 1: field to some of the body language of the Jets

480
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Speaker 1: receivers when Wilson was just sailing throws high and skipping passes.

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Speaker 1: It there. This is a thing, and Bob Salad, I

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Speaker 1: you know, he's done a lot of great things, just

483
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Speaker 1: like Joe Douglas has done a lot of great things

484
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Speaker 1: to make this team worth a damn this year. But

485
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Speaker 1: the protection of of Zach Wilson canna be frustrating when

486
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Speaker 1: after the game, Robert Sali says it was the furthest

487
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Speaker 1: thing from my mind is taking Zach Wilson out of

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Speaker 1: the game or benching him. And I get it, I

489
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Speaker 1: get it. I understand as Jets fans we need to

490
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Speaker 1: maybe swallow some sadness and go through this season. Because

491
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Speaker 1: you invested a number two overall pick, you gotta give

492
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Speaker 1: it two years. I'm willing to live with that. But

493
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Speaker 1: if this is what the experience is gonna be unless

494
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Speaker 1: we see something big in terms of gains in the

495
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Speaker 1: last eight weeks, the Jets need to aggressively address. I

496
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Speaker 1: disagree with that um approached by Sala because I think

497
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Speaker 1: there's a way to try to do both. And Garrett

498
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Speaker 1: Wilson they he was seeing Stormy into locker room saying

499
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Speaker 1: I'm done with this, you know, when he's like walking

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Speaker 1: into the locker room before he talked to reporters, and

501
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Speaker 1: at one point in that UH interview he said, hopefully

502
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Speaker 1: this is a wake up for some people in the facility,

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Speaker 1: and you don't know, but just hopefully. I think he

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Speaker 1: might mean the quarterback decision, because when you're going through

505
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Speaker 1: all of that, Dan, you you had to be thinking,

506
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Speaker 1: you know, give Mike quite a shot here to try

507
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Speaker 1: to win this game, and yet it invites all sorts

508
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Speaker 1: of questions and do you go back to Zack Wilson

509
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Speaker 1: next week would say, yes, you would in that scenario,

510
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 1: but like, try to win this game. It's still three

511
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Speaker 1: to three, and you owe it to the people in

512
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Speaker 1: that group, because by the end it was the Patriots

513
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 1: are just teeing off three and out three and out,

514
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: three and out three and out. The Jets defense is

515
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: playing their hearts out and and it doesn't make a difference.

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Speaker 1: Believe me, it crossed my mind, and I I understand

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Speaker 1: why they're going the route they're going, but if it

518
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Speaker 1: clashes with what you're seeing with the rest of the team,

519
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Speaker 1: especially that defense, that is a super Bowl level defense

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Speaker 1: that you're potentially wasting the season on. Zach Wilson, I

521
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Speaker 1: don't see what they're I don't agree or understand why

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Speaker 1: they're doing what they're doing. If the record were flipped,

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Speaker 1: if they were had two wins right here, then I'd

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Speaker 1: say you stick with Zach Wilson and you give it

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Speaker 1: at least just use the season to go into it

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Speaker 1: into the off season with clear heads about what to

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Speaker 1: do with the quarterback position. What if you got a

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Speaker 1: lift from Mike White? Why is Joe Flacco not even

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Speaker 1: given a ship ben here? He's gonna ever be the

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Speaker 1: guy you're getting bench at this point in this eason.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't mean it's not just that it's a chasm between

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Speaker 1: the offense and defense. It is a drumbeat of your

533
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: own wide receivers and skill position players saying stuff the

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Speaker 1: best way they can say it without saying his name.

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree, I really don't. UM. What I'm saying

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Speaker 1: is I see where they're coming from because I think

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Speaker 1: also the way, especially energy in this room, the frustration

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Speaker 1: I have as a fan, we don't think the quarterback

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00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: can play. I think they do. I think the I

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00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: think in that building, coaches, I'm not I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: the things. The way they talk. I think they see

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00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: a path to him getting better. Um. But the coach

543
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: the players obviously are pushing back on that. So I

544
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: think when Garrett Wilson is he's talking about Zack Wilson shere,

545
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Speaker 1: but he's also talking about MICHAELA. Flour. I think the

546
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: offense care. I think he's talking about Robert South. I

547
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: think it's just a lot of frustration because they know

548
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: everyone knows how good that defense is and what happened

549
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: today is embarrassing, and we got and they got swept.

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Speaker 1: They got swept by a team that I'm not gonna

551
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Speaker 1: say the Jets are better than the Patriots after that swept,

552
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: but there is not. There's no reason that Jet should

553
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: not have at least split that series, and the reason

554
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: they didn't is the quarterback. So you could spin it

555
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 1: however you want, but that's the truth, and those are

556
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: the facts. It's true that it's the quarterback and it's

557
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: another one of these. This Patriots team is bizarre. This

558
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: was the first win that they had without scoring an

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00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: offensive touchdown since uh the Teddy Bruski Snow touchdown game,

560
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: which fans of the Patriots from two thousand three over

561
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: remember it was a similar type of game where he

562
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Speaker 1: intercepts it at the end and and then end. They're

563
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: starting to like stack up these bizarre defensive performances. They

564
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: were number one in the league an ep A per play.

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Speaker 1: They've turned into a good defense. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: they're a great defense, but they know how to beat

567
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Speaker 1: up on the bad guys, and especially at home, especially

568
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Speaker 1: against quarterbacks in over their head, they eat them for long,

569
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Speaker 1: they kill them. And this Marcus Jones pick was a

570
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: fun pick that they made in the third round. I

571
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: think they took them essentially as a return specialist, which

572
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: very few teams would do a hundred and seventy four

573
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Speaker 1: pound like five ft eight cornerback to basically be their

574
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Speaker 1: return er because he loves special teams that much. And

575
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: he showed up a little bit at cornerback, but he's

576
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: basically a returner and he's been great this year. I

577
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: think he's like a future Pro Bowl type returner and

578
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: it really paid off today. Let's move on, but let's

579
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Speaker 1: stick at pinnedics. I do want to talk about Greggy

580
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: will do it because this week is a little different

581
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: because of Thanksgiving and the Pats do play on Thursday.

582
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: Want to talk up Matt Patricia in this offense because

583
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: the Foxboro fans were booing again and it wasn't mac Jones.

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00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: It was the some of the play calling, which I

585
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: thought was terrible by the Patriots in this game. But

586
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: we gotta move We'll get to that this week. Let's

587
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: check in with the other New York team that was

588
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: flying high. The problem is they welcomed in the team

589
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: around the NFL to the meadow ends. Golf leans in

590
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: from the four yard lines. Golf gives the script up

591
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: the middle ENDZ touchdown, Detroit Lions. Those guys have fun,

592
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: have done the job all day long, and they opened

593
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: that thing up wide and DeAndre Swift ran it right

594
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Speaker 1: up the gut for the touchdown and the Lions have

595
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: extended this lead. Get on your airplane. I'll meet you there.

596
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: That doesn't even make sense, but this does three games.

597
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Speaker 1: The mark I knew this was I was singing it

598
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: during Bazy down the Browns lost, Like, come on, when

599
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: I was singing this during the game, it was almost

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Speaker 1: like a shot at him. It's as Dan Miller with

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Speaker 1: the call team swep touchdown put the Giants away. Jamal

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00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: Williams randburg career high three touchdowns the Lions beat up

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Speaker 1: on the g Man eighteen. How did we open this

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Speaker 1: New York dual New York segment with a sad song

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Speaker 1: about New York. It was really only just pointing at

606
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Speaker 1: one of the teams right in. The New York team

607
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: were dancing on their graves today and everyone in the

608
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Speaker 1: nation can be happy because the Giants record is being brought. No,

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00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: this is just like it's it's just like the Giants.

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Speaker 1: We're so happy that the Giants was the Lions as

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Speaker 1: the team of a t not really even referring to

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Speaker 1: the two of you. But I think there's a national

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Speaker 1: call for the Giants to be put in their place.

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Speaker 1: Let me just make something clear from a production standpoint,

615
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Speaker 1: the sad New York song was for both New York teams.

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Speaker 1: In fact, we sound real sad right now. I moved

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Speaker 1: them together. I'm listen. We're talking about the team of

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Speaker 1: a t en here. I move these games together because

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Speaker 1: the both New York teams went down. I get the concept. Now,

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00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: you need to understand that we love the Lions in

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Speaker 1: the studio, at least the majority does, and it is

622
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: very nice to see them as bad as this season

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Speaker 1: started one and six questions about whether Dan Campbell for

624
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: all the bravado and grit and how much we like

625
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: the guy and and the program, to now having results

626
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: which they desperately needed, and to back road wins after

627
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: never producing one in the first whatever game, you know,

628
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: eighteen games of the tenure um. This was a huge win.

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Speaker 1: This is a huge win for the line. I just

630
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: love the way they did it. And you're right. I

631
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: was singing in the newsroom. I was saying, this is

632
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: a very special honor, because it is a special honor.

633
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: When you're what, it's a great I mean, you gotta come,

634
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: gotta come be a part of it. So mad that

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00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: the Lions were not so mad at all, like I

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00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: actually can be. I'm thrilled for the Lions. It's the

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00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: anti Giants thing that I that I'm personally peaked by. Well,

638
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: it was more about the Lions and you're talking about

639
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: I was happy I got the pick right too, but

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00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: it was so many about you know about forty six.

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00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: This segment includes him getting to dance his fugazy Patriots

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00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: team beating the Jets, and the Giants losing. This is

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Speaker 1: this is a greggy second. This is the segment of

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Speaker 1: the year. I'm gonna beat dance in on top of

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Speaker 1: the desk, Uh Aaron Glenn, Dan Campbell. It was nice

646
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: to see them. They out coached Brian Dave, but not

647
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Speaker 1: that Dable hasn't done a great job. He would be

648
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Speaker 1: my coach of the year at this point. But they

649
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Speaker 1: had a game plan defensively. I want to start there

650
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Speaker 1: that I think work to perfection. They loaded their front,

651
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Speaker 1: they played four or five guys, they loaded that box.

652
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Speaker 1: They just refused to let say, Kwan Barkley beat them

653
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Speaker 1: fifteen carries for twenty two yards and they just went

654
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: man coverage on the outside the whole game. And He's like,

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Speaker 1: these wide receivers other than Darius Slayton just try to

656
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Speaker 1: beat us. I know we're not good in the secondary,

657
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: but we're gonna load up up front. We're gonna blitz

658
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: quite a bit and we're gonna see if you can

659
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: beat us for a big play. And you couldn't do it.

660
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: Alim McNeil not a player that we've heard a lot

661
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Speaker 1: from since he was drafted in the I think the

662
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: second or third round last year. He was like Aaron

663
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: Donald in this game. He had like eight or nine pressures.

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Speaker 1: He was all over them. Aidan Hutchinson turned this game

665
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Speaker 1: around with a leaping interception sting. Now he's starting to

666
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Speaker 1: stack some um you know, imp a moment he had

667
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: a sack at that point in the game. I would

668
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: say that Giants actually might have been out playing the lines.

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00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: It shouldn't have been this big of a blowout. Rodrigo's

670
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: making plays and four three turnovers. It was just really

671
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 1: good energy. I've seen good energy from their defense since

672
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 1: the by and I think it's been building. And the Giants,

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Speaker 1: you know what, on the Giant side there just like

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Speaker 1: the Vikings, Um, they're due for a stinker. This is

675
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: a stinker. They're still in really good position the Giants

676
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Speaker 1: at seven and three, but I think like the Vikings

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00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: maybe more I think more so um than the Vikings

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00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: just I would keep an eye on the Giants and

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Speaker 1: see how they react to this game, because there's been

680
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: a lot of positive buzz around them, vibes, confidence building.

681
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: That's a bit of a humbling loss. They've lost two

682
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Speaker 1: of three. Now you go to Dallas on Thanksgiving home

683
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Speaker 1: against the Commanders, who are obviously a little friskier than

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Speaker 1: we give them credit for, and then you get the Eagles,

685
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: and then go to Washington, then the Vikings. So the

686
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: story of the Giants has not been written yet. Really, no,

687
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: And I don't disagree that like they are do they

688
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Speaker 1: look like a seven two team that we would think

689
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: a seven two team looks like? No, I get that.

690
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: I just think like the story of the Giants is

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00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: that Brian Dable, first year head coach in a year

692
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Speaker 1: where a lot of first year head coaches are floundering,

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Speaker 1: and epic epic fashion has been the coaching advantage week

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Speaker 1: after week. Now. I think Dan Campbell is a good

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Speaker 1: coach too, and his plan and the Lions plan showed

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Speaker 1: itself the last couple of weeks. Absolutely, So it's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think you can you can look at

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00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: both teams, you know. I am kind of coming in

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00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: with an angle on the Giants thing, but like I do,

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00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 1: look at the Lions and say, it is so important

701
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: that this happened, because had they dropped these last three

702
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Speaker 1: games and look completely incompetent on defense, you start to

703
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: wonder if major changes could happen. Now it's making me

704
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: think the flip side. Dan Campbell can point to this

705
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: and say I have a plan coming. I love their coaching,

706
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: and you know, I think they had a lot of

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00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: bad luck early where they lost some games they shouldn't

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Speaker 1: have and then they won a couple of games maybe

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00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: they shouldn't have won against in that Packers games. Certainly

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00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: the Bears game. They still this game the way they

711
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: had Jared Goff on the move and sometimes it was

712
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: boot and boot action, but sometimes it was him reacting

713
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Speaker 1: and running away from the blitz, not considered a strength

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Speaker 1: of him. He played really well in this game. DeAndre

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00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: Swift has turned into their third running back. That touchdown

716
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Speaker 1: he scored at the end was kind of like when

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00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: they give Zeke Elliott the touchdown. It was actually Jackson

718
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: was the backup to uh To Williams in this game,

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Speaker 1: and both of them ran really well. They had a

720
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Speaker 1: lot of creative play calls, and I do worry about

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Speaker 1: the Giants injury situation. It's been a problem for them

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00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 1: all year. They lost two more cornerbacks in this game.

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Speaker 1: It was later in the game, they were already losing,

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Speaker 1: but Dori Jackson got hurt on a punt return that

725
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: did not look good. Another starting cornerback to offensive lineman

726
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: got hurt in this game and a safety. And they

727
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 1: have a short week. So that was five more players

728
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Speaker 1: playing significant snaps, four starters. Like it's just been piling up.

729
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: But you mentioned like the future, Scott, you do start

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00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: to worry that, like the positivity around a surge in

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Speaker 1: early season could turn slightly dark. You know, I do

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Speaker 1: wonder if this game is maybe a pivot point for

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Speaker 1: their season. But listen, just like we're just talking about

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Speaker 1: the Vikings goin on Thursday, like there's this season is

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00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: literally the opposite of even vaguely predictable. So they probably

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Speaker 1: will go beat there. They were due their plus one

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00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: point differential. But yeah, if you lose that game on Thursday,

738
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Speaker 1: will get into it. They'll they'll be third place. But

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Speaker 1: I love the Lions, even making they made Thanksgiving better,

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Speaker 1: even just looking forward to the first time I thank you.

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Speaker 1: I haven't been this excited for a Lions Thanksgiving games

742
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: since Third Eye Blind played halftime at the Pontiac Silver

743
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Speaker 1: Dome and ninety nine. They got all these teams to

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00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,479
Speaker 1: play each other Thanksgiving teams playing this week. That's smart

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Speaker 1: Third Eye by I thought it was who was the

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00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: other one they had the more famous Thanksgiving Yeah, Creed?

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00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: Well they played at the old Cowboys stadium, right, okay?

748
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: Or Gerald World? I thought they also played in Creed.

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Speaker 1: If they brought Created back for Thanksgiving performance, everyone would

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Speaker 1: love it. Create had like um dancers flying through on

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00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: curtains with like painted metallic green faces um and Scott

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00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: Stepp was singing very seriously while all of that stuff

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00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: was going on behind them like it was. It was wonderful.

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Speaker 1: It's America's holiday finger looking good. L three in or ow.

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Speaker 1: Keep it going, boys, Let's take a break, welcome back.

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Speaker 1: Let's now head to the Superdome to the n NFC's

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00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: most disappointing team's head. Dad, that's a sell out of

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Speaker 1: the shotgown right in the middle of the field, David

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00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: Johnson to Dalton's right, sat under pressure Dalton person to

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Speaker 1: the middle Helm looking for Hollo who makes the Dutch

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00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: Let's see you laiter by Chris sal touchdown. That's how

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00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 1: you go from a second of three touchdowns. So funny

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00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: skinny time space after always nay Mike Costs with the call.

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00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: This is like the Joe Montana wins a Super Bowl song.

765
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: Feels a little over the top for this particularly won

766
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: a game anyway. Andy Dalton threw three touchdown passes that

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00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: Stafford left the field in the middle of the game

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00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: to be evaluated for a concussion in the second half,

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Speaker 1: and the Saints beat the Rams seven to twenty. The

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Speaker 1: Rams now three and seven, the defending Super Bowl champion.

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Speaker 1: You have to go back. This would be we should

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Speaker 1: take a look at this most disappointing defending champion seasons.

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Speaker 1: This one is a rough one. Nick Shook, here we are, buddy,

774
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: welcome the pipe to the show. Unbelievable. His body is

775
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: a temple um, but the Superdome was Andy Dalton's temple

776
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: on Sunday and he praised I mean Andy Dalton, you know,

777
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: he he gathered those Saints up in the huddle. He

778
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: looked down and he said, Hey, isn't that John Candy

779
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: behind the gold post? Sweet? Like that's the chris O Lava.

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Speaker 1: He just had this look. If you watch it on

781
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: YouTube or watch the highlight, he look kind of like

782
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: look to the crowd and just be like, can you

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00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: believe that? Can you believe? And I think that was

784
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: a duck and it works, Like just quickly, forget about

785
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: the five interceptions I've thrown over the last two weeks,

786
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: please everyone. Football is completely different than basketball. That's true.

787
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Speaker 1: Go ahead. He did the the w W Randy Orton

788
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: where he gets up on the turn buckle and he

789
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: just turns and looks like this, puts his arms up

790
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: in the air like did you not? You know? Did you?

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Speaker 1: Do you not? Are you not entertained? On Sunday? Are

792
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: you not entertained? Saints fan? One sixty yards of three

793
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: different past catchers. We had Juwan Johnson, who's on a roll,

794
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 1: by the way, guys, five touchdowns in five straight games.

795
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Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry got into the mix, and chris O Lava.

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00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: Dalton has been under fire kind of indirectly more Dennis

797
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: Allen under fire for continue to roll with Dalton for

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Speaker 1: the last month or so when Jameis Winston is not

799
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Speaker 1: entirely healthy but healthy enough to be number two healthy

800
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: enough to play. It's a whole weird story over there

801
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: now with Winston. So this helps, this helps that us out, too, right, Chuckie,

802
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: You know you don't have to worry about having that

803
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: conversation for another week. Absolutely, you need vindication. You just

804
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: hope that the Rams come up on the schedule and

805
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, your quarterback looks real good. This

806
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: is his best game as a Saint. Uh. He powered

807
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: this offense. They were able to get some running going

808
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: with Taysom Hill and Alvin Kamara. Uh provided the balance

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Speaker 1: the offense they've really needed for the first time in

810
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: what feels like a month plus. They hadsome life offensively.

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Speaker 1: And and you know, this is a matchup of two

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Speaker 1: teams that have both been struggling with the football, have

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00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: both had issues at quarterback. Matthew Stafford getting knocked out

814
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 1: last week, he wasn't able to play. He got knocked

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Speaker 1: out of this game. They had to go to Bryce Perkins,

816
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: and the Saints just ended up being the better of

817
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: two bad teams. So it's not a game that you

818
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: look back on and say that was the moment our

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00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: season turned around. I don't have much you know, belief

820
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: in the Saints from here. But it was nice for

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00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: them to get a win and for any Dalton to

822
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: actually put together a nice game when he struggled so much.

823
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: But for me, more importantly than anything, it was good

824
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: see Crystal LaVey play an important role in this offense

825
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: and not just be an afterthought. Like man, he's such

826
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: a talented receiver. He's probably the best year. I don't

827
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: care about the number he's been the best player. I

828
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: think that's a rookie. I I totally agree he's been

829
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Speaker 1: the He was my number one receiver coming out of

830
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: this class, and that's maybe some Ohio State bias, but

831
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Speaker 1: I just thought he was the most pro ready receiver

832
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: in this group, and and often they don't use him

833
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: enough because they've struggled with the football when it comes

834
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Speaker 1: to Andy Dalton. So to have a game like today,

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Speaker 1: it's very encouraging. And the Ramps side big bumber man,

836
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: I mean, talk about disappointment. They're on track to be

837
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Speaker 1: the first team since the two thousand three Tampa Bay

838
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: Buccaneers to finish with a losing record after winning the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, And frankly, I don't see any reason why

840
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: they're not gonna end like, I mean, they could be five.

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00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: They five and twelve feels like they're over under. Here's

842
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: a question now, because we learned um this morning through

843
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: some reporting at Cooper Cup after having that ankle surgery,

844
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: is out six eight weeks due the math, he's he's

845
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: probably not coming back. And now Matt Stafford with the

846
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: head injury recurrence here, I mean, what's the stop. The

847
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: rams By two rightfully played this very safe at this

848
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 1: point in time. I'm I'm a surprised, right, I'm surprised

849
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: Stafford played in this game. I think that's that's odd too.

850
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: It just it was, it was, it was, it was

851
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: odd all last week. How Sean McVeigh handled it from

852
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 1: a answering the question from Jordan Roderick about what was

853
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: going on with him. He's back in it's another player

854
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: with concussions two times in two weeks, and they never

855
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: actually confirmed that he had a concussion, and the you

856
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: said you thought his answers were weird, like he kind

857
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 1: of talked about Stafford's family, and it just he didn't

858
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,959
Speaker 1: answer a question straight about whether he had it again.

859
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: And then he's not even in the protocol as of

860
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: right now. Okay, so they tested him and he's not

861
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: gonna He's gonna test tomorrow. Shook right on Monday. But

862
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a Saints defense. It didn't have

863
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: Marcus Davenport, no Cam Jordan's, no Marshawn Lattimore, no Pete

864
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 1: Warner and this and Sean McVeigh, for all the bells

865
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: and whistles about his genius, um has not coached this

866
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: team out of it at all. Matthew Stafford or not.

867
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: I don't think the offense seems to change one iota

868
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 1: without him or cup in there, whether Stafford's in the

869
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: lineup or not. The only changed from then today was

870
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: too too at Well actually did something. He caught a

871
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: long touchdown pass. Otherwise it was more of the same

872
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: I thought the entire It was the one moment that

873
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: was I think emblematic of their entire season in terms

874
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: of what they have on on offense when it comes

875
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: to talent. Was Bryce Perkins dropping back on a third

876
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: and long. He had Ben's chronic open and just overthrown

877
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: and they ended up having to pun It's like that.

878
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: That's that's the rams of nutshell. Just not good enough,

879
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: not talented enough. This is who they are. Their defense

880
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: isn't even that banged up, and the defense keeps giving

881
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: up these kind of games. Yeah, Jalen Randy got cooked

882
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: on that touchdown to a lot Bay by the way.

883
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: All right, let's now move. I was gonna say to

884
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: Orchard Park, but it wasn't an Orchard Park because you

885
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: know the snow and stuff. Let's head to Ford Field.

886
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: Alan puts Mackenzie in motion over the right side. Now

887
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: the snap. Josh wants controlled scans the end zone. Fighters

888
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 1: don't got ann no, but think he's touchdown. Buffalo touchdown Bills.

889
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: They take the league with fourteen seconds slept in the

890
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: first half. It is Stefon Diggs targeted and one catch

891
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: and it goes for a touchdown in a Buffalo league.

892
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: Oh yes, the Buffalo Bills got themselves back on track.

893
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: Josh Allen throws that five yard touchdown past the Steph

894
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: Diggs late in the first half, and from there the

895
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: Bills cruise. Never mind the score, they cruised to a

896
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: win over the Browns. Uh in the game. Yes, that

897
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: was moved from Buffalo to Detroit due to several feet

898
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: of snow covering Western New York. Um Shoogie I watched

899
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: this game as well, so I want to I want

900
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: to tee up this way. Um. The Browns came out

901
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: playing really well in this game. They looked like the

902
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 1: better team for the better part of the first half.

903
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: To me, Um, So that's how monumental um. I thought

904
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 1: that final drive of the first half was for Buffalo,

905
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 1: not just in this game, but potentially in the season

906
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 1: as they spin forward, because that kind of seemed to

907
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: calm everything down and the Bills got back to being

908
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: the Bills from that point onward. Yeah, you know, they

909
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: looked like a team that had to dig its way

910
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: out of several feet of snow just to get to

911
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 1: the team bus, to get to the airport, to get

912
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: to the game that's a home game, that's not actually

913
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: a home game, and the Browns looked like a team

914
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 1: that didn't deal with that type of snowfall. Now, granted,

915
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: in Cleveland we've gotten a little bit of snow, but

916
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: nothing like that. But the thing is, it's just as

917
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: you said, Dan, this was the moment I think that

918
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: the Bills rediscovered who they were offensively. It wasn't perfect,

919
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: and it did include an element that I think a

920
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: lot of people have wanted from the Bills for a

921
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: long time, which is a bit of a commitment to

922
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: the run, because that's actually what helped them move the ball,

923
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: especially in the second half of really sold this game away,

924
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: handing it to Devin Singletary, handing it to James Cook,

925
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: watching them run hard, pick up first down through this

926
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: poorest Brown's run defense, that was what was most important.

927
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 1: It wasn't Josh Allen throwing the ball over the field.

928
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 1: In fact, he couldn't even get this Stefon Diggs until

929
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: that touchdown passed just before half. And again though it's

930
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: a team that we're talented, we're playing poorly, but we

931
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: still capitalize on these situations after having a really bad

932
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: first course, I think they fifteen total yards in the

933
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 1: first quarter and then blew the doors off the Browns

934
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: and the remaining three quarters, which you like to see

935
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: that because it's a group that, you know, everybody's favorite,

936
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: everybody loves the Bills. They're they're flying high, and then

937
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: they run into a little bit of trouble and then

938
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you're like, are they good enough

939
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: to get out of that trouble? Well, today they were,

940
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: and maybe this is the launching pad for them as

941
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: they entered the stretch run of the season. This isn't

942
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: a shift to jump off Buffalo. This is that this

943
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: team is. It's too good and um, you're right. They

944
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 1: did a much better job running the ball and it

945
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: was interesting speaking to that the vibes around the team

946
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: and the frustrations of the recent weeks. Before that touchdown

947
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: drive at the end of the second quarter, Stephan Diggs

948
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: that there was a side shot of him on the

949
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: sideline and Sean McDermott was kind of like talking calm

950
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 1: down a little bit. He was upset that he wasn't

951
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: seeing the ball in the offense wasn't doing well. Uh

952
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: So this was a team you could feel some tension

953
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: riding within them. So this is a really nice win

954
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: to get back to seven. Almost like woke up out

955
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: of like a super hungover it seems like in this game,

956
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: because at one point it was like a hundred and

957
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: twenty four yards for Cleveland to ten for Buffalo. Midway

958
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: through this second quarter, Josh Allen did not like he

959
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: looked like he was still deeply in the slump. It's

960
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: important for them to have turned it around. I mean,

961
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: I look at this box score. Nick Chubb fourteen carries

962
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: for nineteen yards. I'm trying to remember the last time

963
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: that occurred with Nick Chubbs unct that the Bills could

964
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: be like such a run dominant team. You mentioned Singletary

965
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: and Cook both with eighty six yards on twenty nine

966
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: combined carries, and then to be able to shut down

967
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb. I mean that shows the toughness. I like

968
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: the way you set that up, Dan, because if you're

969
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: gonna be a super Bowl team, you're gonna have these

970
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: ebbs and flows, and you're gonna have different moments of

971
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: the season. And in this little Detroit two pack that

972
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 1: they have with the Browns and now the Lions here

973
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: on coming up on Thanksgiving, it could be you know

974
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: something they look back and this was a real quick

975
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: on the Browns. This was a big game for them,

976
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: even though they were the heavy underdog, even after the

977
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: venue change, to try to get, you know, a win

978
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: here that would have put them within striking distance with

979
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson now two weeks away. Uh, they don't have that,

980
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: So they're three and seven. David Nujoku came back. He

981
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: made an incredibly athletic uh play on a lead frog

982
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:05,720
Speaker 1: um play Uh. His ankle looks good. Uh. And Amari

983
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: Cooper has been awesome all year. He's exactly who the

984
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys need right now. By the way, Um, So, Deshaun Watson,

985
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: when he does enter the fray, he's gonna he might

986
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: be rusty, but he's gonna have some guys. Played Jacobe Prissette,

987
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: the way he played today, come on, was great. Shook

988
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: the last word. I'm gonna offer something here, Yes, go ahead,

989
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: offer something, guys. Um, Deshaun Watson's gonna give you a

990
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: reason to watch the Browns, especially with the Mark Cooper

991
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: if they, you know, kind of developed their rapport. But

992
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna volunteer this now in case you guys haven't.

993
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 1: I'm sticking a fork in the Browns because they're gonna

994
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: be entertaining enough to watch on a week week basis,

995
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: and they're gonna keep committing the same mistakes that they've

996
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: made at this point in the season. I've seen too

997
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: much to believe that they're suddenly going to transform the

998
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: fact into three and seven. They're out of the race.

999
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: The only reason to watch them now is that he

1000
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: had Deshaun Watson fits in for the rest of the season,

1001
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: all right, this is the respect I have for Nic.

1002
00:49:54,760 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: So let's order an emergency session fork session with the

1003
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 1: Shawn Watson back in two weeks of three and seven Browns.

1004
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: Are we comfortable forking them? I too, shall agree and

1005
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 1: that the order has been carried or something, and the

1006
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: Browns are forked, Nick Shook, you will never be forked

1007
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: on the show, your vital bro. Not even Creed could

1008
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: save the Browns right now, there, he goes, Let's keep

1009
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: the train rolling. Let's head to Atlanta where the Falcons.

1010
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: We're looking to get off the mat midnight train to Georgia.

1011
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: Cordarrell Patterson out of the inne He'll hit here, goes

1012
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 1: CP Patterson, on his way thirty He's got the twenty

1013
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: ted five touchscown Atlanta. Horely smokes. Here's the record for

1014
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: the nighttime in his career, cor Daryl Patterson has returned

1015
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 1: to kick for a touchdown and three of them it's

1016
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: topping down and have come against the Chicago Bears. Oh

1017
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: what a career. Cordoril Patterson making a making records with

1018
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: another kickoff return for a touchdown. Unbelievable. That was a

1019
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: huge play for the Falcons and a win over the Bears.

1020
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 1: Patterson's score was not the decider. Young Waykup's fifty three

1021
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: yard field fifty three it's a great kicker, gave Atlanta

1022
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: the lead with less than two minutes of play, and

1023
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 1: Greg the Falcons get to stop on d against Justin

1024
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: Fields and another win for a team that's just kind

1025
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: of grinded its way through the season. They're staying relevant.

1026
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: You know, this keeps him alive for another couple of weeks.

1027
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: That the Bucks are in first place sounds familiar, yeah,

1028
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 1: but they're better this year. We've sort of been debating,

1029
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: you know. At one point I said they were spicy.

1030
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: That was maybe too much. They're definitely frisky. I mean, like,

1031
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: if if we think about it in terms of like

1032
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: the Chick fil A menu, they famously don't have Chick

1033
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: fil A open on Sundays anywhere, including inside the stadium

1034
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: because of God. Maybe maybe they're just like the nuggets there,

1035
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: the Chick fil A nuggets. They're tasty. I mean, they're

1036
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: sticking around, they're they're they're salty, and they've got Patterson

1037
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: who looks it's just time to give Patterson his flowers.

1038
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: He's a special teams player of his generation. Like, he's

1039
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: literally the best special teams player of his generation. Not

1040
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: just all those returns, but he's been a top tier

1041
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: gunner on punts and kickoffs throughout his career. That's why

1042
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick loved him so much. And then a game

1043
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: that like was somewhat predictable and a little depressing from

1044
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: the Bear side, didn't have as much offense overall as

1045
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: they thought, like Patterson gave it some je Remember when

1046
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: we're using that Vilma drop seven years from now that

1047
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: that was in reference to Cornell Patterson running over someone

1048
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: at the goal line. It's amazing. His career Mark has

1049
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: been amazing because he's always been this incredible special teams player.

1050
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 1: And then Arthur Smith, to his credit, found a way

1051
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: to make him a real offense difference maker. He's just

1052
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: been a great weapon for them two years running. I

1053
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: mean he was, he was a fetish at Bill Belichick

1054
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: for a while. I Mean, it's like, this is someone

1055
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: who can do so many different things. I think on

1056
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: the ground today, had the way he runs, like his frame,

1057
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: he just is so much more powerful than I recall

1058
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: him like earlier on in his career as a runner,

1059
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: and like I think Arthur Smith deserves credit on a

1060
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: strange roster for what he's done with him and other players.

1061
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 1: And I look at this Bears team on the flip side,

1062
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: it's like there they called shootout games when both teams

1063
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: scored twenty four. I'm not sure I totally agree with

1064
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: that because it is about for the category. But they're

1065
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: owing four in these games like they're owing four this season.

1066
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: Because you talk about a team where it's like all

1067
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: these great defenses that have no offenses helping them out.

1068
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: There's like four or five of those teams. This is

1069
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: the reverse judges who judges this as a shootout? Is

1070
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: that an NFL? I agree that this one was not,

1071
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: but that is research at least, I would think it

1072
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: needs to be thirty. One of the teams has to

1073
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: get plus see what do you watch this? It actually

1074
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 1: was more defense than he expected. There was. Yeah, I

1075
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: don't think we settled anything, but the Falcons defense played

1076
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: quite well. They they kept Chicago under three hundred yards.

1077
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: They forced two turnovers. Their their defense had to like

1078
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: bow up on short fields. We had the special teams

1079
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: touchdown here and justin fields. Wasn't the full justin fields?

1080
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 1: If you look at the box score it looks like

1081
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: eighty five yards on the ground, a hundred and fifty

1082
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: through through the air, had an interception, had had two

1083
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: touchdowns overall. But in the second half of this game,

1084
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 1: he wasn't the same guy. He had a hamstring injury

1085
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: that I think was bothering him. He had fourteen carries

1086
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: in the first half. That was the most carries I

1087
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: think for a quarterback ever in the first half of

1088
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 1: a game, which is in only five of them were scrambles.

1089
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: Most of them were design runs, and it was like

1090
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: they pushed it too far. They finally get to a

1091
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: position where they're down three at the end of the game,

1092
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: it's money time. They called design runs on the first

1093
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 1: two plays, which was weird because he was kind of

1094
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 1: limping out there. He didn't have the explosion, and he

1095
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: kind of he re injured his hamstring or and he

1096
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: hurt his left shoulder on one of those. He was hit,

1097
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: I think with a late hit in the head on

1098
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: a slide on the second down play, and then he

1099
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: throws an interception which was more about footwork and just

1100
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 1: a bad throw on on the third place. It was

1101
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 1: an ugly drive. And he came out of this game

1102
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: pretty bag. He didn't seem right to me, like the

1103
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: hit to the head. He was slow to get up

1104
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: after that. And then you saw him I mean this

1105
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 1: whenever this never seems to work out. Well, you saw

1106
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: him clutching at the what I thought it was a

1107
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: collar bone at first, but it's the shoulder as he

1108
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: was coming off the game, and they asked him about

1109
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: that and he said that he was in a lot

1110
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 1: of pain. So, I mean, first of all, the way

1111
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: his game is. If you're gonna have a major shoulder

1112
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 1: upper body injury, that's you're not gonna be the same

1113
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: kind of begged out, not begged out, but he stopped

1114
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: scrambling in the second half, like he had chances to run,

1115
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: and you could tell he wasn't feeling great, so he

1116
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: decided to just stay and throw and they had a

1117
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: long touchdown driving recovery. By the way, great especially the

1118
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: US three in this studio should never be saying any

1119
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: player begged out of anything. Oh right now, I don't

1120
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: mean begged that he he I think adjusted and adjusted well.

1121
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 1: They actually had an eight minute touchdown drive to tie

1122
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: the game, and he had some good throws in there,

1123
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: but he stopped running and you could tell it was

1124
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,439
Speaker 1: it because of this house. I mean, he said after

1125
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: the game, after the X rays, I'm hurting a little bit,

1126
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: and you saw a shot in the bowels of the

1127
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 1: stadium him on the cart holding the left shoulder. Uh

1128
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll see and he's against the very tough

1129
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: as we know, Jets defense next week. So we'll see

1130
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: what's going on with the Bears. So that's their fourth

1131
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: straight loss. They're losing games. They're three and eight, but

1132
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: you know, there's still a lot of hope and so

1133
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: much of that centers on fields. But he has to

1134
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: be healthy. When one last point that this Falcons did

1135
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 1: a great job protecting Mariota, who did not play well

1136
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 1: again in this game. I don't feel any differently. The

1137
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 1: quarterback Arthur Smith is the one refusing to play Renter

1138
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: in the thirty one yards through the air. Didn't have

1139
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: a good running day either, but there They only had

1140
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 1: one quarterback hit in this game, no sacks, very close

1141
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: to a ghost. And do you know who had that

1142
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,919
Speaker 1: quarterback hit for the Chicago for the Oh, it's gotta

1143
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:05,919
Speaker 1: be Jackson born Jackie Sands a fumble recovery. Many people

1144
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 1: he had a big miss tackle but he made a

1145
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: lot of play be perfect. Well. God created us all

1146
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: to have flaws, to show that we are humans. You

1147
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: learn humility through that miss tackle exactly? Maybe who among

1148
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:23,959
Speaker 1: us theology podcast tug Boat got it all right. Let's

1149
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: move on. Let's head to Pittsburgh where there was a

1150
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: lot on the line, at least in the newsroom. Burrowing

1151
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: the shotgun now two by two formation, p Ryan in

1152
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: the backfield, Burrow back to throw clips it out to

1153
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: p Rhyan Cooking first heard touchdown right down to the pylon,

1154
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: touchdowns J P. Ryan with a three touchdown catch game.

1155
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: I love it. I love parabolic. Mike's too, That's what

1156
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: I love. You know, there's a difference though, you know

1157
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: Zolac so that's Dave laughing with Dan Hordon. You know,

1158
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: there's different exuberance and then the power raid bottle. Who's

1159
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: just who's just like taking shots at a fan base

1160
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: that's not even listening to the radio call. Yeah, but

1161
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: I mean he fits that fan he fits his own

1162
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: fan base perfectly well. They love it. Joe Burrow through

1163
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: four touchdown pass three to backup running back J. P.

1164
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: Ryan one of my favorite names in the league. By

1165
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: the way, the Bengals rally past the Steelers thirty seven

1166
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: thirty bangles up to six and four with their win, Mark, Um,

1167
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: you and Mr Rosenthal locked this game. That's right here,

1168
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: we got lock bros. It doesn't work the work pros

1169
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: on outside. But anyway, you guys sweated it out a

1170
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: little bit. But since and I took care of business

1171
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: in the end, it took care of business. And I thought,

1172
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: you know, it was an impressive win in the sense

1173
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: that like you don't have Jamaar Chase, you lost Joe

1174
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: Mixing to a concussion early on in his game coming

1175
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: off a gaily at five touchdowns, and they finally got

1176
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: off the shelf running the ball. Well, p Ryan steps in.

1177
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: H T. Higgins had an insane game. It's just like

1178
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: you've been He completely number one, completely stepped up to

1179
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: play that role. Um Tyler Boyd had a couple of

1180
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: big catches in this. Our guy, Trenton Irwin, who was

1181
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: just activated, came in and had a couple of big guys.

1182
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: I think we all o I don't even know who

1183
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: trend but he became our guy. I mean, it was

1184
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: also just the Bengals defense down the stretch is the

1185
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: Bengals defense or the Steelers offense called on our guy committee.

1186
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: There's so many committees there. Their offense is getting consistent

1187
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: and that's what we've all. That's all we've asked for.

1188
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: This was a game where their defense and I've got

1189
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: questions about there even ton of injuries. To give up

1190
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: this many yards and points the Steelers is not good.

1191
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: But if they're consistent, I'm just saying, then we have

1192
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: something to believe. There were there were problems in the

1193
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: first half, but the Bengals gave up sixteen yards to

1194
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: the Steelers in the third quarter and about sixty total

1195
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: in the second half and completely shut down pick it

1196
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: and pickings. I get it, but they gave up thirty

1197
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: This is the best day. Can't he pickets out of

1198
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: your pro So you can't give them too many flowers.

1199
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: And I'm not that I don't know what this endless

1200
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: giving the flowers. Everyone every show with the giving the

1201
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: flowers out. But it's like they they're in Pittsburgh. They

1202
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: don't do well against the Steelers in general, and like

1203
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: they hadn't won an a f C North game, and

1204
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: they surged down the stretch and I thought that Burrow

1205
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: made a couple of great throws throughout the game, and

1206
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: so what it was. It's a division game. You go

1207
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: handle it. If we're gonna if we're gonna give, you're

1208
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: gonna give the Bengals like a complete pass to get

1209
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: crushed by the Browns, a terrible Browns team a couple

1210
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Well, then I'm gonna give them a

1211
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: pass to like not look like just all star team

1212
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: of the Earth terms. This is why we are not

1213
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: luck Bros. Listen, this is uh interesting, you know, I

1214
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: think the Steelers are at least t J. Watt made

1215
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: such a big difference, I mean an incredible acrobatic interception.

1216
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: Uh and Joe Burrows just pulling his hair out with

1217
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: the Steelers team because he's had you know, big counting

1218
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: staff production days, but a ton of turnovers in both

1219
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: these games. But in the end, yes, they get the

1220
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: job done. Jamar Chase is off crutch as we're hearing now.

1221
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: There's a report on Sunday morning, so maybe he's getting

1222
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: closer to the lineup. Hopefully that hip allows him to

1223
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: be the Jamar Chase we know. I'm looking forward to

1224
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: what the season holds for Cincinnati. I think they're gonna

1225
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: be an exciting team that will play into jaims. They're not.

1226
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: They're just often not pretty. And I think, like it's

1227
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: easy to remember how dominant they were for weeks in

1228
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: a row and then their magic carpet ride to the

1229
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. They're not that team right now? What else

1230
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: is in pretty? When you when you lock a game

1231
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: right and then and then on this podcast we cover

1232
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: that game and you get the wrong lock and you

1233
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: don't and you control the soundboard, yeah, and all you

1234
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: have to do that, all you have to do is

1235
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: hit the prices, right, Sandhorn, I locked up the Vikings

1236
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: to beat the Cowboys, and they lost by thirty seven

1237
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: points at home. Um, that should be easy, and yet

1238
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: it didn't happen. But now, since we're talking locks, what

1239
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 1: happened to everybody? What happened at the top of the

1240
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: show today? I locked up the Vikings and they lost

1241
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 1: by thirty seven points at home to the Cowboys. Can

1242
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: we have another committee meeting? And all right, if you

1243
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: lose by more than thirty if your lock loses by

1244
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 1: more than thirty five points, can we make it a

1245
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: rule that's losing a lock and a half, you get

1246
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: a loss and a half. I deny that motion, but

1247
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 1: I see what you're going for. Okay, how about moving forward?

1248
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: We won't even put it on graver, but moving forward,

1249
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: if your lock loses by thirty plus points, you should

1250
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: have an extra half on it. Well, how about just

1251
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 1: being vaguely accountable and and interjecting the show as the

1252
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: producer when something darded around me? I was gonna hit

1253
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 1: the horn and jump on and take accountability for Dan

1254
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: was he was already transitioning to I didn't want to

1255
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: cut off your flow, Dan, and like the transition, and

1256
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: it was such good taste. Rodgers on the Macie so

1257
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: oh yeah, the receivers weren't in the right plane. It

1258
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: was just such cut against reps, such a good Dan

1259
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 1: was hosting so well by transitioning so smoothly that if

1260
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: I cut that off, just simple to well, Dan did

1261
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: accept that? Do you think, by the way, do you

1262
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 1: think if how did you do you think if we

1263
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: if I was doing that transition and it was forty

1264
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 1: three the other way, do you think he would have?

1265
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: He jumps in with its soloquy about how brainiac is

1266
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 1: with the locks. I love Grave Digger. I joined his team.

1267
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm a Titans fan. Now he and I love. This

1268
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: is one of my favorite things. Mark goes off on

1269
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: Justin and then he's like his brain is like, must Readjustin.

1270
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: But I just Justin is one of the more likable

1271
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 1: people in the pretend. I don't like Justin's over corrective steerings.

1272
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 1: It's like my actual driving. All right, let's move on.

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Speaker 1: Let's head to Baltimore where the Ravens had a layup

1274
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 1: against the Panthers. Or was it Jackson. We'll keep it on.

1275
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: The read option chokes a man, stumble to the one,

1276
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: dives in for the touchdown. Romar Jackson extends the Ravens

1277
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 1: lead with the first rushing touchdown and the first touchdown

1278
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: of the game. I can tell you what he had

1279
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: me for, because obviously Drake and Lamar worked on the

1280
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: right side with the ball. The Baltimore Ravens forced three

1281
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: Panthers turnovers in the final eight and eight minutes of

1282
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 1: fourteen seconds of game time. I don't know why that

1283
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 1: was so hard to say. Lamar Jackson took advantage of

1284
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,919
Speaker 1: it with that game, icing one yard touchdown run, final

1285
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: score thirteen three. Let's bring back the grave digger who

1286
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: had some eyes on this game for us, justin everyone

1287
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 1: kind of had this one circled at Baltimore as you know,

1288
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: a let's i'll throw it out there, um, a thirty

1289
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 1: one to ten type win, you know, maybe a twenty

1290
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 1: seven six win. But this game was three three in

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01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: the second half, Yeah it was. Baltimore was twelve and

1292
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: a half point favorites, and this game was just kind of,

1293
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 1: you know, another one of those defensive struggles punt punt

1294
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: point like the first this is a possession count punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, interception, punt,

1295
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: and then the Ravens ended the first half with a

1296
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: field goal to take a three nothing lead into halftime.

1297
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 1: But both teams were like really committed to stopping the run,

1298
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: which seemed to hamstring both offenses pretty pretty badly, and

1299
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 1: the Ravens end up getting it done because the last

1300
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: four possessions for the Panthers ended in turnovers, including one

1301
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 1: on downs, fumble, and two interceptions, and Baltimore capitalized on

1302
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: good field position, like they got a field goal on

1303
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: one and they got a touchdown on the other. That's

1304
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 1: how they were able to win the game. Here's my question,

1305
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 1: because we we just gave the Bengals a bit of

1306
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 1: a pass, as I think you should. It's like, just

1307
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: take care of business, especially on the road against division

1308
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 1: rival um. The fact that they weren't able to score

1309
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: points against Carolina Carolina doesn't have a bad defense. But

1310
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 1: are we worried about the Ravens offense after this game?

1311
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be worried about it. The Ravens really just

1312
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: couldn't run the ball, and it seemed like that they

1313
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 1: they need to run the ball, even against teams that

1314
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: are built to stop them. And that's how good they're

1315
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: running game needs to be, or us they're not great. Well,

1316
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 1: it was also weird because they didn't commit to running

1317
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 1: the ball there. They opened the game with a five

1318
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: play drive, then in a punt and all five players

1319
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 1: were passes, and even the commentators Mark Sinchez on this

1320
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 1: game was wondering, like, this is a team that runs

1321
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 1: the ball. Why have they not even attempted to run

1322
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: the ball. And then Kenyan Drake takes a few handoffs

1323
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 1: and get stuffed seemingly every time until late in the

1324
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 1: four north quarter, and it's like, oh, maybe this is

1325
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 1: why they aren't running the ball. But I agree I mean,

1326
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: if the Ravens want to be the team that we

1327
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: think they are, they need to be able to run

1328
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 1: the ball. But on defense, they look like super legit um.

1329
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 1: Roquan Smith was making plays, they were using him as

1330
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 1: a blitzer. He looks like he's fitting into that defense

1331
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 1: right away. So from that standpoint, Baltimore seems like one

1332
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: of the a f c's best teams. But the offense,

1333
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 1: I think the offense will come. I don't know. It

1334
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 1: just seems like they were having a little bit of

1335
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 1: an off game and I wonder if they're sort of

1336
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 1: a matchup offense, which your point that they can't be.

1337
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 1: They have to be able to run the ball no

1338
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 1: matter what. But like they dominated the Saints, baffled the Saints,

1339
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 1: but against that the week before, on that Thursday night game,

1340
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: they did come out throwing the ball in a to

1341
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 1: a strange degree against the Bucks, and it's like, it's

1342
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 1: to me that that throws me a little bit. I mean,

1343
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 1: I think the takeaway is if you can do the

1344
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 1: Panthers of anything, and I know they had Baker Mayfield

1345
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: in there, I wonder if that kind of messed up

1346
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: their their flow a little bit. They were so done

1347
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 1: on the ground a couple of weeks in a row,

1348
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: and you held them to thirty six yards at two

1349
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: point one yards per carry. Like the Ravens defense is

1350
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 1: heating up and can shut down almost anyone. It seems

1351
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: it's crazy that, like Baker Mayfield coming back into the

1352
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: lineup and playing this game in Baltimore, it's just not

1353
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: even a story nationally or or even on this part,

1354
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 1: Like we're just like, oh, yeah, it's Baker. He came in.

1355
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: They didn't choose from that, that's what we expect. It's

1356
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 1: just crazy we got to that this point. Then does

1357
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: he get another start? I don't know. I mean he didn't.

1358
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 1: He obviously didn't do anything. So the Panthers are just

1359
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 1: j walkers. The Ravens aren't that talented at the skill positions.

1360
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 1: I mean, they have Lamar Jackson, who makes you talented,

1361
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 1: and they have an offensive line that could be talented.

1362
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley at an ankle injury that Lamar said, it

1363
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 1: sounded like it maybe isn't that bad. We'll see. But

1364
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 1: their number one receiver and their number one running back,

1365
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:50,719
Speaker 1: we're both on other rosters this regular season, Like DeMarcus

1366
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 1: Robinson was on another team. So is Kenyan Drake and

1367
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: and those are their top guys. I know Andrews was

1368
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 1: back and he's really the one, but like that's been

1369
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 1: to overcome. Yeah, And I think there's the Odell Beckham Jr.

1370
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 1: There was a report that he's very close to picking

1371
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 1: a team. I know it's believe that the Cowboys are

1372
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 1: the heaven favorites. I wonder if the Ravens would get

1373
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 1: giants were named, I would imagine the giant and that

1374
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 1: tweet about the Cowboys today too. They went crazy today,

1375
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 1: I emoji. I will say on the Ravens offense, I

1376
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 1: feel like today was just a lot of misques that

1377
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 1: is not necessarily something you would expect from the Ravens.

1378
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 1: Like Isaiah likely dropped a pass that hid him right

1379
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:29,560
Speaker 1: in the hands he should have caught. They had a

1380
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: lot of penalties that like pushed them back, including some

1381
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: that weren't really penalties. Morgan Moses got called for a

1382
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 1: face mask at the right tackle position where he didn't

1383
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: really even touch anybody's face mask. Fifteen yard penalty. That

1384
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 1: drive is killed. Excuse them to the way that we're

1385
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: giving everyone, Uh sort of you get when you're fine.

1386
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter at all. It was a nasty little Sunday. Yeah,

1387
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 1: that's another game, a little rough on, nasty little gig,

1388
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 1: a little punch. Swallow that sadness. Swallow the nasty little

1389
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: than the Sunday. Let's take a break and finish out

1390
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 1: the early and afternoon games. All right, listen, we cover

1391
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: every game. This is the inside the NFL treatment style.

1392
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 1: We all everyone gets their flowers. Washington at Houston. Let's

1393
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 1: check it out. Flowers has been suspended for four down

1394
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 1: the sideline. He goes, there's six touch out, touch down, Washington.

1395
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 1: We were just talking about Fuller and how he has

1396
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 1: been playing dominant. What a way to start the game. Indeed,

1397
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 1: Julie Donaldson with Bram Einstein, w B I G. Kendall.

1398
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 1: Fuller set the tone with that pick six. Taylor heine

1399
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: Key through for a bucket one clean Commanders roll te

1400
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 1: ten over the moribund Houston Texans. Mark Sessler take us

1401
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 1: imagine the first where the better team has two hundred

1402
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 1: and forty six yards and the lesser team offers five yards.

1403
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 1: It's an outrageous half. Five five, the lowest obviously by

1404
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 1: any team all season. Now, if you want to go

1405
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 1: back n So that's great that there was competent. That's

1406
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: the kind of Sunday. It was the only the team.

1407
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 1: The team that did essentially the same thing last year

1408
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 1: was the Texans against the Bill. So they're low point

1409
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 1: is low, and the low point for Davis Mills is low.

1410
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 1: And he had that Kendall Fuller pick six, he had

1411
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 1: a he had another bad interception on a d pass.

1412
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 1: They couldn't get anything going. I mean, Washington was dominant

1413
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: on defense, especially Montes sweat half of the young and

1414
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 1: sweaty duo. We'll get young backs need, but Jonathan Allen

1415
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:48,560
Speaker 1: operated the second part of that deal. They combined for

1416
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 1: four sacks, so they just made the Texans have no

1417
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 1: way out in these situations when someone like Damian Pierce

1418
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 1: isn't running the ball well, and the obviously wasn't on offense.

1419
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 1: They did just enough. I really think that Scott Turner

1420
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 1: and we talked about Curtis Samuel on the previous show

1421
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 1: a little bit, has used Curtis Samuel so uh creatively,

1422
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 1: and that was another case of that today. But in general,

1423
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 1: just the way that he sets up the run game,

1424
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 1: I think they've been tough to be and Taylor, Heineke

1425
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 1: will give you enough throws a game that in a

1426
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 1: game like this, this thing was over ten minutes in. Yeah,

1427
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 1: it's uh kind of typical that Davis Mills has the

1428
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,600
Speaker 1: pick six early and then Heineke had it might have

1429
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 1: been his first throw. I don't remember, through it right

1430
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 1: in the gut of a Texans defender and then they

1431
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: just drop it. And that's kind of partly the story

1432
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 1: of Heinekes season. But you said, you know, clean game,

1433
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 1: that's nice to run the ball. I like that they

1434
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 1: gave the ball to Antonio Gibson more because to me,

1435
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,879
Speaker 1: he's a little more dynamic right now than Brian Robinson

1436
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 1: as a runner. But they both ran the ball plenty,

1437
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 1: and you just gotta wonder, how are Texans Colored Air

1438
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 1: Jordan's you know, gonna play? Are they gonna look great?

1439
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:58,600
Speaker 1: It's really popping off because you know, I'm not a

1440
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 1: sneaker head. I know a lot of men my age

1441
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 1: are now, but um, I have to say I've been

1442
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: unplugged on the Heinecky story with the sneakers just because

1443
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 1: I just like Tommy Lee Jones in the tunnel. I

1444
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 1: don't care, but you know what, please explain to me

1445
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 1: what this is, because I don't know, and maybe i'm

1446
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,560
Speaker 1: maybe I'm not alone wear sneakers of the team like

1447
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 1: shaded in the colors of the teams that he slays.

1448
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 1: He buys sneakers for the whole team Jordan's or for

1449
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 1: his offense. I don't even know in the colors, in

1450
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 1: the colors of the team that he beats. Maybe it's

1451
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,959
Speaker 1: his offensive lineman that would make more sense, or offensive

1452
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 1: every special. Those guys got big old feet. Yeah, so

1453
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 1: he's dropping. I mean, I don't think they charged by

1454
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: the yard or anything by the whole teams. Maybe now

1455
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,719
Speaker 1: it's probably offense. That's all I know. It was gonna

1456
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 1: All I know is that Adam Schefter tweet, which was

1457
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 1: more uh notable to me for the fact that Adam

1458
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 1: Schefter tweeted it at all than than the organ Schefter.

1459
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 1: I saw him on TV the It Off recently. Is

1460
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 1: he going nuts? Well, he was, we know what he was.

1461
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 1: He was mimicking the Kirk Cousins thing. There's probably a

1462
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 1: bit the producers said, please do this. I gotta get

1463
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 1: I gotta caught up. I gotta be I mean this

1464
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 1: Commander's team six and five we I know you're saying

1465
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 1: this is this is the stink bomb partion of the

1466
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,679
Speaker 1: game of the show here, but they've won what five,

1467
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 1: five of six, They're in the NFC mix. They could

1468
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 1: be time for the last Houston Houston drag them. I'm

1469
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 1: as surprised as anyone. Uh yeah, Washington really the third

1470
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 1: year in a row where like Ron Rivera's won like

1471
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 1: four games in a row with a strange team. I

1472
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 1: think we know the ceiling here right, this is this

1473
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 1: is a nine or eight nine and eight or eight

1474
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 1: nine team. But you know what, considering all the garbage

1475
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 1: that surrounds this coaching staff and these players, I've got

1476
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:54,560
Speaker 1: some news. It's um, it's disappointing developing news. Uh. It

1477
01:14:54,680 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 1: has to do with Taylor Heineke. He just as the

1478
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 1: Jordan's for himself. That's the story was where you like

1479
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:08,600
Speaker 1: on too. I just assume on Tuesday he indicated on

1480
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:12,639
Speaker 1: the Pat McAfee show he might buy his lineman Jordan's

1481
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 1: for the Eagles win. Previous to that, it was only

1482
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 1: Jordan's for himself. By the way, his base salary this

1483
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 1: season is one point five million, but he gets a

1484
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 1: d five thousand dollar bonus for every victory that was part.

1485
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 1: But then you take taxes out of that, you know,

1486
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:30,679
Speaker 1: and takes a bite. Yeah, you gotta give a cut

1487
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 1: to your representation that takes a bite. He's doing fine

1488
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 1: and he shipping in hand. He has guaranteed himself employment

1489
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 1: in the National Football League for about six seven more years.

1490
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 1: All the different all the different you know, hands that

1491
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 1: are out. He makes fifty dollars a week. That's a

1492
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 1: true story. John Madden told me that in the John

1493
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 1: Let's move to the last game of the week. Oh,

1494
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 1: this was hum I'll tell you what. Zeuser pulled a

1495
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 1: straw on this one and short it was. It was

1496
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 1: not a good game. It was good to Denver Hurst

1497
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 1: and tent On the Broncos thirty five car play action

1498
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 1: again walking downfield, walks it in your corner, Adams wid

1499
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 1: o the five. He walks in and the Raiders walked

1500
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 1: off with the wind Adams to win it here in Denver.

1501
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 1: I like Jason Harrowitz k r l V wonder a

1502
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 1: mine here in Brent Mussberger on then call anybody else,

1503
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:38,680
Speaker 1: miss Brent's nothing to do with Harrowitz. It's not. In

1504
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 1: a reflection on maybe even just that called jack pot baby,

1505
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 1: I missed that. If you call, like I think he

1506
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 1: has a line, maybe he'll do the call. He'll do

1507
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 1: the call for you for a feed. Mussberger is living

1508
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 1: it up in Sin City. Derek Carr hits a wide

1509
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 1: open and I mean wide open Davante Adams thirty five

1510
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 1: yard touchdown pass third PLAYFF. Thank you Raiders over the

1511
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 1: Broncos in overtime. You know, the Raiders never even led

1512
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 1: this game in regulation, but they get a field goal

1513
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 1: from Daniel Carlson with sixteen seconds to play, uh, to

1514
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 1: push the game into overtime. Um, you know, and good

1515
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 1: for the Raiders because uh, even though Rachel Bonetto was

1516
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 1: on her show on Friday and she threw out there

1517
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 1: the idea like Derek carrs he, you know, gunning for

1518
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 1: an Emmy with some of these press conferences, how upset

1519
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 1: he is. I disagree. I think this has been a

1520
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 1: very emotionally taxing season when you go by how hard

1521
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 1: things have come for this team, and to finally be

1522
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 1: on the right end of this type of game, I'm

1523
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 1: sure it feels very good for the Raiders as they

1524
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 1: get on their plane to head back to their city

1525
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 1: where the opposing play by play color guy would be

1526
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 1: in that city waiting for them. I don't know, you

1527
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:03,759
Speaker 1: gotta as all act about that. But uh, anyway, remember

1528
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 1: the Raiders and the Broncos just more of the same

1529
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 1: Mark again, first drive of the game or the first

1530
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 1: or second possession. Russell Wilson looks excellent. He leads pretty

1531
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 1: much down the field. Uh, they score a touchdown. He's

1532
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 1: making good decisions, he's buying some time in the pocket,

1533
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 1: he's making throws. And I almost tweeted it, and I

1534
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,640
Speaker 1: was like, shut up, so I didn't. But like, you

1535
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 1: never get sucked in with this Broncos offense because they

1536
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 1: will stall forever, even when you think they're turning a corner.

1537
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter if it's no longer, Um, Nathaniel

1538
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 1: Hacket call in the plays, it's now Clint Kubiak didn't

1539
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 1: change anything, same Broncos. That is pretty dark. If if

1540
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 1: four months ago, five months ago, we would know that

1541
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett, who was hired for this skill, particularly his

1542
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:55,759
Speaker 1: offensive mind, is a week before Thanksgiving, days before Thanksgiving

1543
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 1: turning over play calling duties. Um, that would be telling.

1544
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:03,639
Speaker 1: There's an incredible staff from this game this season when

1545
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 1: teams are leading by three or more points with two

1546
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 1: minutes or less remaining, they are a hundred and two

1547
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: and six. The Broncos are two and two in those games.

1548
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 1: I feel like the Raiders gave up some of those

1549
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 1: losses too. They were downtown nothing in this game. You

1550
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 1: felt like Raiders probably aren't coming back. Adams that that

1551
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 1: route and overtime was so good that the other defender

1552
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 1: wasn't on. It looked like it was a blown coverage,

1553
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 1: but it was. No. He just like ran the route,

1554
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 1: you know, got him out of his shoes. He's he's

1555
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:39,680
Speaker 1: been incredible. Derek Carr at a big time drive to

1556
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 1: set up that game winning field goal. But the final

1557
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:48,639
Speaker 1: drive for the Broncos before that game time drive from

1558
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 1: the Raiders was so disappointing. They run two times, they're

1559
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 1: coming out of the two minute warning. The Raiders have

1560
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 1: no time outs. We were having a discussion. I kind

1561
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: of said, don't let Russell. I'm usually the aggressive person,

1562
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 1: but if you could take fifty seconds off the clock

1563
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 1: and punt either run, which I would think would have

1564
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 1: been fine, you call a very safe pass, or you

1565
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 1: tell Russell Wilson you gotta take a sack unless something's

1566
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 1: wide open. Russell Wilson is in shotgun, no play, fake

1567
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 1: for the run whatsoever. He's looking down the field. It's

1568
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 1: a third and ten. I mean, how often have they

1569
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 1: picked up third and ten this year? Twice? Nothing's open

1570
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 1: and he throws it in completion. After the game, they

1571
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 1: asked Hacket about it, and he said it carefully, but

1572
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 1: he said his wish would have been that the clock

1573
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 1: would have kept moving in that situation, which is his

1574
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 1: way of saying, you have to take the sack there.

1575
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 1: If I'm gonna trust you to do that, you either

1576
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: have to take the sack or you have to run.

1577
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 1: You know, you could have run for five yards and

1578
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 1: then punted. And that's just a total brain cramp by

1579
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson that leads pretty directly to them losing this game.

1580
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 1: That's that's weeks in a row where Nathaniel Hackett is

1581
01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:00,879
Speaker 1: suggested verbally that the quarterback is not on him, operating

1582
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 1: like he's gonna get him fired, and he's being asked

1583
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 1: about it after the game. He's and you know what,

1584
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: I liked the call. As bad as Russell Wilson has been,

1585
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 1: as bad as the season has been for Denver in

1586
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 1: that situation. That was Clinton Koobiak saying, hey, win the

1587
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 1: game for us, then execute it. You gotta gotta make

1588
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 1: a play and we got to just take the sack,

1589
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 1: like if something's got open, you gotta run for five yards.

1590
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:27,680
Speaker 1: And he should better, He should know better. I mean,

1591
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 1: he's trying to make a throw. I don't think it

1592
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 1: was a throwaway, even though it looked like it. I

1593
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 1: think he was trying to complete the pass. It just

1594
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 1: didn't happen. And he just that has been his season

1595
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 1: and nutshell, he doesn't make plays. There was there was

1596
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:40,879
Speaker 1: no one there, much like the last play in regulation,

1597
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 1: which they weren't going to score on anyways, but no

1598
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 1: one looked up for the past. It's just a lot

1599
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 1: of that for the Raiders defense of all defenses, to

1600
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 1: hold you too sixteen points is is a new low.

1601
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 1: It's tough. They're one of these teams where you that

1602
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:57,639
Speaker 1: the season cannot end quickly enough for the Denver Broncos.

1603
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 1: And I think Hackett is in very deep trouble. Yeah,

1604
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, the owners were not there. That was such

1605
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,679
Speaker 1: a great well like open press that that press conference,

1606
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 1: that's an example of how quickly things change in our league.

1607
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 1: Because Nathan new Hackett thought he had you know, got

1608
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 1: and he did have the opportunity of a lifetime. He

1609
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 1: takes this job in Denver. He ends up with this

1610
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson borderline Hall of Fame level quarterback joining you

1611
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 1: on a big blockbuster trade. And you cut to nearly

1612
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 1: December and he's on the ropes three seven. Um, alright,

1613
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:36,639
Speaker 1: let's finish this thing up with some Sunday night football.

1614
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 1: A gem yone on the right, coming across to the left,

1615
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 1: the Kelsey Kelsey touchdown, the hot trick, all right, Greggy

1616
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 1: me and you were gonna take this thing home. You know,

1617
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 1: this is the tough day, Greggy, as you know for me,

1618
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 1: swallowed some sadness. Um, getting a lock on Sunday night

1619
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 1: is good, but you know it was really good. What

1620
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 1: was a real victory for me, Greggy? The NBC you're

1621
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 1: s say what, yes, yes, the NBC telecast doing a

1622
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 1: win probability blurb as Patrick Mahomes took the field with

1623
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 1: one to play with two timeouts against the Chargers, who

1624
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 1: were just the Chargers and a very tired underman defense.

1625
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,679
Speaker 1: And at that point and said the Chiefs had twenty

1626
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:41,560
Speaker 1: four chance of victory, and the camera is literally on

1627
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, one of the greatest players to ever play

1628
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 1: the quarterback position in the prime of his career, and

1629
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 1: what happens, Yes, Patrick Mahomes goes right down the field

1630
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 1: and finds his buddy Travis Kelsey for the third time.

1631
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 1: I mean every time else he plays the Charges, he

1632
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 1: rips their hearts out. The third time was the decisive

1633
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 1: score for the Chiefs and a thirty to seven win

1634
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 1: over the Chargers. Just a heartbreaker for the Chargers, who

1635
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 1: had a chance to really be in the thick of

1636
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 1: the division race. Instead Greg the Chiefs yes and proved

1637
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 1: to eight and two. The Chargers fault of five and five,

1638
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 1: and this division is all but over. And I know

1639
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 1: they're they're swallowing sadness tonight, the Chargers and their fans.

1640
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 1: And you said Week eleven was a nasty little thing,

1641
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 1: But I mean, the only thing was that was nasty

1642
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 1: was that Travis Kelsey like celebrations. He gets you know,

1643
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 1: the Ladinian Thomas and t drop with with the you know,

1644
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 1: the before he even gets in the end zone. And

1645
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 1: then he almost celebrates too early on the third touchdown

1646
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 1: and you're right, I think you gotta take away win probability,

1647
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 1: uh forever after lining up that graphic at the end

1648
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 1: because as someone who was rooting for the Chargers in

1649
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 1: that moment, because I I admit it, I have a

1650
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 1: soft spot for the Charge and I wanted you to

1651
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 1: lose your lock the combination. Um, I would just assume

1652
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 1: the Chiefs were gonna do exactly what they did because

1653
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:10,719
Speaker 1: you know what, Mahomes did it the whole second half,

1654
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 1: Like every third and long throw that needed to be made,

1655
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 1: he made it. And the only reason they were even

1656
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 1: in that spot really is because they fumbled. It wasn't

1657
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 1: Mahomes on their previous drive. I had no faith the

1658
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 1: Charges were going to get a stop and they did not. Yep,

1659
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 1: and uh we do. We've heard about it. The between

1660
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa's injury, all the issues on their front line. Um,

1661
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 1: for the Chargers, it just set up that the old

1662
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:40,560
Speaker 1: Oh they scored too quickly, and they absolutely did. And

1663
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:42,559
Speaker 1: you got you gotta give it up for the Chargers

1664
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 1: because yes, they came out, Uh, they came out very

1665
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 1: strong in this game. They were up at the break.

1666
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 1: As they went to the half, they battled with Kansas City.

1667
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 1: UH scored that touchdown, laid off the turnover to put

1668
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 1: him ahead, but yeah, when they needed to dig down

1669
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 1: and find a find a way to make a huge play,

1670
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 1: they couldn't. And Derwin James is a great player, and

1671
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 1: he had one of my favorite players I've seen all

1672
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 1: season by a defender on that sack he had where

1673
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 1: he just destroyed the running backer, the running back slash blocker,

1674
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 1: and then UH took out Mahomes. He gets toasted by Kelsey,

1675
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:19,639
Speaker 1: and I just think, like, I'm just thinking about Kelsey

1676
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: this year and how amazing he's been UM and how

1677
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 1: that's been even more important with Tyreek Killghan. I think

1678
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 1: Gronk for everything UH that Gronk was as a all

1679
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 1: around great tight end, I think he is on some

1680
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 1: level peerless because he was so physical. But Kelsey is

1681
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:39,720
Speaker 1: the greatest offensive tight end I've ever seen. And I

1682
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 1: include Gronk, and I include Tony Gonzalez and Shannon Sharp

1683
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 1: and whoever you want to put in the league in

1684
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 1: the last forty years. I think Kelsey is just unbelievable.

1685
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:52,680
Speaker 1: The touchdowns he had today, specifically the last two, the

1686
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 1: athleticism he shows. He's just a brilliant player, and he

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01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 1: happens to have an all time quarterback with him. I

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01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 1: guess it shouldn't be surprising. You're right, and yet at

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01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 1: this age, like I am surprised, and Derwin James was

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01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 1: doing a great job on Travis Kelsey for most of

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01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:09,680
Speaker 1: that game and and some of the art age that

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01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:11,680
Speaker 1: Kelsey piled up. He ended up with six for one

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01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 1: ff and three touchdowns. He's gonna set a career high

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01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 1: here and touchdowns in what season? Number twelve. I don't

1695
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 1: even know what number this is. You're right, but I

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01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 1: do gotta defend Gronk. I mean, you can single up

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01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 1: Gronk with the a f C Championship game on the

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01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 1: line in Arrowhead and just go to him play after

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01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:32,600
Speaker 1: play after player. Are you doing that for Kelsey? I

1700
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 1: guess you just kind of did it just now. And

1701
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 1: to to your Kelsey point, he has to do more

1702
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 1: on this team right now because they lost to Arias

1703
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 1: Tony in this game. They were already down too wide receivers.

1704
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:46,719
Speaker 1: Marcus Valdes Scantling is just not reliable and not someone

1705
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:49,720
Speaker 1: they can trust. And so yes, Justin Watson and sky

1706
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 1: Moore pop up and they have better games at receiver,

1707
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,719
Speaker 1: but it's like it's more on Kelsey than ever before

1708
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 1: and he delivers. And Kelsey is thirty three years old.

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01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 1: He turned thirty three in October. Um. I think he's

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01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 1: older than Gronk actually, um. So for him to still

1711
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 1: be playing at this level, it's pretty remarkable. So, you know,

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01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 1: this was a really fun, exciting game. That Darius Tony

1713
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:13,640
Speaker 1: thing is a bummer because it's a hamstring again, and

1714
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:15,680
Speaker 1: that's just when we all were starting to be like,

1715
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:18,599
Speaker 1: get excited about what he can mean to this offense.

1716
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 1: We'll see what that is. Mike Williams, my goodness. You know,

1717
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 1: in a game where Keenan Allen comes back and makes

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01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 1: huge plays for him and looks like Keenan Allen despite

1719
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 1: the one turnover, um, Mike Allen, Mike Williams goes down

1720
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:32,640
Speaker 1: with again an ankle injury. So it's just like the

1721
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:35,720
Speaker 1: Chargers can't catch a break. And you know, as as

1722
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 1: a as a fan of a team that's hard luck team,

1723
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:40,560
Speaker 1: the Chargers are just one of those teams you just

1724
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 1: you expect something bad to happen to them. I don't

1725
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 1: know if they expect expect it to happen, but cosmically,

1726
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 1: it always seems to work out against them, especially when

1727
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 1: it's these two teams involved. Just another chapter in that story.

1728
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 1: These two teams play such great games. I hope that

1729
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 1: the Chargers can somehow take something from this that they

1730
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 1: can play this well, because this was overall, I think

1731
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 1: the best that I've seen the Chargers play in a while.

1732
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 1: They put up sixty five yards offense, They get the

1733
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:10,760
Speaker 1: key touchdown when they need it late. Justin Herbert was

1734
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:12,640
Speaker 1: going down the field in the first half. I know

1735
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 1: that's kind of stopped for the most part in the

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01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:17,360
Speaker 1: second half, but he delivered the touchdown when they needed it.

1737
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 1: They're different with Alan Joshua Palmer had a big game,

1738
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:24,640
Speaker 1: like they they need to play like this, and I

1739
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 1: know defensively they gave up a lot, but they actually

1740
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 1: hit my Homes a lot. It's Mahomes had to make

1741
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 1: some outrageous throws on those third and longs in the

1742
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 1: third quarter. I thought were the difference to keep those

1743
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:38,640
Speaker 1: drives going. And so if they can play like this,

1744
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 1: they're at five and five. Actually, I think they can

1745
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 1: get better, but it's always these little plays. I don't

1746
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:45,720
Speaker 1: know if did you listen to the radio uh in

1747
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 1: this game at all. I heard DJ and Money late

1748
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:52,559
Speaker 1: in the first half, and at that point, the Chargers,

1749
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 1: you know, came back from thirteen ten down to almost

1750
01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 1: score two touchdowns to close the first half out and

1751
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 1: be twenty four thirteen up, and they called the toss

1752
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 1: play on second in inches when they could have just

1753
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:07,679
Speaker 1: called Herbert to pick up that first down and take

1754
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 1: all the clock away. And the second they called that play,

1755
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 1: money in DJ got as upset as you'll hear home

1756
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 1: announcers at the play, Colleen, And even before they ran

1757
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:20,639
Speaker 1: third down, DJ was like, that's a four point play

1758
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:22,720
Speaker 1: right there. You gotta just take the first down, and

1759
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:24,679
Speaker 1: they were right and that at the end of the game,

1760
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about them in that moment, saying that's

1761
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 1: a four point play and thinking, man, how big would

1762
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 1: those four points be? So many tough losses for the

1763
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 1: Chargers unbelievable, And and the Chiefs roll up four and

1764
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 1: eighty five yards in this game and Patrick Mahomes, I

1765
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 1: believe Greg you you picked Mahomes to win m v P.

1766
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be close. I think he's

1767
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:47,599
Speaker 1: gonna walk away with this award. And it's sometimes it's

1768
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 1: these primetime games that helped to decide it, and everyone

1769
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 1: will remember this as yet another memorable game for Patrick Mahomes,

1770
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 1: who stepped on that field down four points, with a

1771
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 1: minute forty five and two time outs to play, with

1772
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 1: only a percent chance of winning, and yet he got

1773
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 1: it done. I got it done too, I did lock

1774
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 1: it up, and that was a little too close for comfort,

1775
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 1: but I'll take it. I think the Westling brothers, the

1776
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 1: prodigal son, Nick Westling, he got it done with a

1777
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:22,760
Speaker 1: who do you lock up? Grave Digger, the Commandos, So

1778
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 1: I think we all kind of got back. Who are

1779
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:30,599
Speaker 1: winning ways well besides justin whom? Yeah, the thirty seven

1780
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 1: point loss by the Vice, Yeah, that's a that's a

1781
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 1: lock and a half loss. I don't know if E

1782
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 1: D N lock ups will recognize it. But like the Wesselings,

1783
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 1: how they keep their own standings, which is nonsense. It's

1784
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 1: like they're gonna make some argument that one of the

1785
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:47,519
Speaker 1: Westling brothers actually should have won. I'm having my own standings.

1786
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 1: And Graver year now a half game even behind what

1787
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 1: you were going to be. He can't even get him that.

1788
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:54,919
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to talk about it. He's upset. All right, everybody,

1789
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening. Again. It's gonna be

1790
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 1: a different week this week because of the holiday here

1791
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 1: in the States, so you will get a regular Tuesday show,

1792
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:05,720
Speaker 1: but it won't be quite regular because it will be

1793
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:09,040
Speaker 1: kind of a Thanksgiving Day preview of the three really

1794
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 1: good games to come, and then we'll get you caught

1795
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 1: up on the news. Wednesday will be our full preview

1796
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 1: as opposed to Thursday. You will not hear or see

1797
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 1: us on Thanksgiving proper, but Friday morning will be up

1798
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 1: and adam early ahead of USA England. By the way,

1799
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 1: no Friday fun show, but we'll release a recap of

1800
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving games very early. And you forgot, you know,

1801
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 1: the biggest podcast of the week, the Monday night football

1802
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 1: recap forty Niners Cardinals. I didn't forget it because I

1803
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 1: wanted to cycle back to it because it's Jason's Zumwalt,

1804
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 1: the voice of God quite literally for this show now,

1805
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 1: uh and Greg Rosenthal will recap San Francisco Arizona on Monday.

1806
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:54,240
Speaker 1: So big week. Show schedules a little different, but plenty

1807
01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 1: of content as always, Thank you for thank you everybody

1808
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 1: for listening, and I hope if you did um like me,

1809
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 1: have to swallow sadness on this Sunday that you chewed

1810
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:12,680
Speaker 1: properly and carefully before sending it down your gullet and

1811
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:15,479
Speaker 1: into your digestive track, and then get rid of it.

1812
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:17,599
Speaker 1: And I'll leave it at that. Just get it out

1813
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:21,280
Speaker 1: of your body and we move We move forward, But

1814
01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:24,000
Speaker 1: there's only one way I can get out. Yeah, we're

1815
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 1: ending the show talking about poop. All right, here we go,

1816
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:31,479
Speaker 1: Dan handsOn signing off for the Quiet Storr and uh,

1817
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 1: the old boss Grave digger the pipe until Monday night.

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01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:38,040
Speaker 1: He the call