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Speaker 1: Welcome to a special off season edition of the Twin

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Speaker 2: We've got a few coaching changes here in Detroit, and

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna welcome in a couple of those changes.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with with.

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Speaker 2: Mike Kava, the new Detroit Lions passing game coordinator. Welcome,

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Speaker 2: first off, Congratulations. I guess what's it been like here

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Speaker 2: these last couple of weeks, kind of with the transition

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Speaker 2: new staff, jumping right into free agency lists in the combine?

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Speaker 1: Has it been a little bit of a rule.

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Speaker 3: With That's been great? You know, just going to introduce

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Speaker 3: myself to the staff, starting to get to know them,

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Speaker 3: obviously Dan and how he operates around the building. Jumping

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Speaker 3: into you know, the things that we're talking about on offense,

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Speaker 3: like you mentioned, you know, the free agents, the draft,

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Speaker 3: know the team that I just stepped into how can

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Speaker 3: can I get implemented into into those parts of the draft.

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Speaker 1: And free agency.

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Speaker 2: When you sat down with Dan, I'm just curious, and

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Speaker 1: How did those visions align? Why? Why was this, in

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Speaker 3: I think outside of the whole, like even outside of football,

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Speaker 3: as a man, those things are really important to me.

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Speaker 3: And I think the culture that he's built and the

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Speaker 2: And Dan's had a similar path, right, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: Just why was working with Dan? Maybe that great fit?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that you know, we aligned in terms of,

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Speaker 3: So it was just you know, I think as those

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Speaker 3: You, when you're in that role, you really have to

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Speaker 1: Just I guess, what what's the ceiling for this offense?

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Speaker 2: Mike Kafka, the new passing game coordinator, Thanks so much

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to twin the Huddle podcast with me right now,

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Speaker 2: a man who needs a little introduction to Lions fans.

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Speaker 2: But last time I had you on the podcast, Dan Skipper,

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Speaker 2: Congratulations, Thanks for taking the time here and looking forward

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Speaker 1: Appreciate your welcome back to the twenty Huddle podcast. Love

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Speaker 1: to welcome in new tight Ends coach Steve Alibert. Congratulations,

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: You've been with the offensive line now I think the

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Speaker 2: So is that fun to a new challenge I had

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Speaker 5: my first three year, four years, I guess I drew

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Speaker 5: it for four years. Last years for sure I didn't.

440
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Speaker 5: And so it's not like you just drawing the old

441
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Speaker 5: line like you're drawing the looks you're handling, the tight

442
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Speaker 5: end stuff, the combos. You spend so much time together

443
00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,399
Speaker 5: in individual drills and protections, you have to know you

444
00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,600
Speaker 5: know how they're how they adjust in the play actions

445
00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,119
Speaker 5: and which ones you know they're chipped the flats and

446
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Speaker 5: all that type of stuff. So now it's just add

447
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Speaker 5: another element and I can't wait.

448
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned Drew and offensive coordinator Drew Petsing, and

449
00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,399
Speaker 2: he's gonna be in this first year. You know, one

450
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Speaker 2: of the things that you look back at Drew's offenses

451
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Speaker 2: in Arizona a lot of twelve personnel, a lot of

452
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Speaker 2: thirteen personnel. I'm just curious maybe some of the initial

453
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Speaker 2: conversations you've had about kind of those personnel packages. I

454
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Speaker 2: know some of that is, you know, what they dealt

455
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Speaker 2: with in Arizona with some injuries and stuff like that,

456
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Speaker 2: but it's something that he seems he likes to feature

457
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Speaker 2: twelve thirteen. We saw thirteen personnel with LA and some

458
00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,679
Speaker 2: of the teams that really use that tot advantage. It's

459
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Speaker 2: tough to kind of match up defensively against some of

460
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Speaker 2: those things.

461
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Speaker 1: How excited are you?

462
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Speaker 2: How much conversation have you had kind of about implementing

463
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Speaker 2: some of those packages.

464
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Speaker 5: I think some of it's been things that we've done

465
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Speaker 5: in the past. Within now there's gonna be different wrinkles

466
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Speaker 5: they have, maybe different maybe feature And now Trey McBride,

467
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,760
Speaker 5: you know, is a great player and he was a

468
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,960
Speaker 5: big focal point of that offense, and you know, for

469
00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,080
Speaker 5: the tight ends, you got to be excited to know

470
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Speaker 5: that he's shown he knows how to get the ball

471
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Speaker 5: to the tight end. Now, obviously we have a bunch

472
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Speaker 5: of studs we have to feed here, so it's you know,

473
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Speaker 5: there's going to be plenty to go around for everybody.

474
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Speaker 5: But I mean there's been a little discussion and in

475
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Speaker 5: terms of, you know, what are the best fits here,

476
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Speaker 5: and sometimes it's you know, might be game plan wise

477
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Speaker 5: week to week. Maybe it's more advantageous this week to

478
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Speaker 5: get you know, twelve heavy, your twelve, heave your thirteen

479
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 5: versus some weeks you might be more than eleven. And

480
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 5: the good thing is we have the roster and guys

481
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Speaker 5: in all the rooms that you can kind of be

482
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Speaker 5: a chameleon and you can kind of, you know, do

483
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,920
Speaker 5: whatever is best to fit you know, that specific week,

484
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,120
Speaker 5: and it helps with the tight end room just knowing

485
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,679
Speaker 5: those guys that they're smart players too. They're instinctual, they're smart,

486
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,960
Speaker 5: they can handle a lot on their plate. So it's, hey,

487
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,680
Speaker 5: we're going to be you know, all all over the

488
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Speaker 5: Border're gonna have eleven, twelve, thirteen all you know from

489
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Speaker 5: week to week that they can handle. We're going from

490
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Speaker 5: one to the other. And you know, even in game

491
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Speaker 5: we're having, you know, the brain capacity to execute that

492
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Speaker 5: at a high level. I think it's it's definitely we

493
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Speaker 5: have the room to do it now. It's also you

494
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Speaker 5: do that you're taking some of our other dynamic guys

495
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Speaker 5: off the field. So I know there's going to be

496
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Speaker 5: a balance, and I know we have the right guy

497
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Speaker 5: that you know that we hired and you know with

498
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Speaker 5: coach Campbell, that will make sure we have a good

499
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Speaker 5: balance of that to make sure that everybody's being featured

500
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Speaker 5: the way they should be.

501
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Speaker 2: How much you excited to work with with Sam Laporta

502
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Speaker 2: and brock right, you know, especially to guys I know

503
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 2: from the Crossover you're pretty familiar with, but look, Sam's

504
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 2: one of the top five in you know, in the

505
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,400
Speaker 2: game block of a very versatile piece. Just the excitement

506
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Speaker 2: of starting to kind of you know, hit the room

507
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Speaker 2: with those two guys especially.

508
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Speaker 1: No, absolutely, I can't.

509
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Speaker 5: I can't wait. Just you know the way that they

510
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 5: love football. You know, they they can do everything. They're

511
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 5: not a specific you know, they're not just a pass

512
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Speaker 5: tight end. They're not it's you know, somebody who's only

513
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Speaker 5: a blocking tight end. You know, they they they're able

514
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Speaker 5: to do everything. And both of them have different skill

515
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Speaker 5: sets that maybe you know, are enhancing certain areas, and

516
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:37,920
Speaker 5: it's you know, helping them in the areas that they're

517
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Speaker 5: not you know, deficient is not the right word, but

518
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Speaker 5: just where you know, making sure where they're you know,

519
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 5: perceived game weaknesses, try to elevate that, try to you know,

520
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Speaker 5: continue to make their strengths even better than they can.

521
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Speaker 5: And and the thing that's good too is it's like

522
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Speaker 5: we have that previous relationship. So it's kind of a hey,

523
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Speaker 5: you know what works for you and you know, in

524
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Speaker 5: terms of getting the best out of a motivating I'm

525
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Speaker 5: understanding that. But also you know, hey, what do you

526
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Speaker 5: need from me? You know, figuring out in terms of

527
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 5: you know, what how do they learn best? You know,

528
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Speaker 5: what's are they you know a lot of film on

529
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Speaker 5: their own, what cutups. What do you guys like to watch?

530
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 5: There's certain you know, guys, certain schemes. You know, certain

531
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Speaker 5: cutups that you guys like on top of stuff that

532
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 5: you know, maybe pulling from the O line background of Hey,

533
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Speaker 5: this is kind of, you know, similar to how.

534
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Speaker 1: We're teaching it. Maybe a few technique things.

535
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 5: Here and there that maybe they haven't done or they

536
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 5: might have done in their past that you know, can

537
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 5: help enhance certain schemes, help them with certain things there,

538
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 5: and just kind of make sure that you know they

539
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Speaker 5: have what they need. And I can't wait.

540
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Speaker 2: So transitioning to a new position. Free agencies coming up,

541
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Speaker 2: The draft is coming up. How much have you gotten

542
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Speaker 2: into the draft yet?

543
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Speaker 1: Is it? Is it kind of more?

544
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Speaker 2: Are you still in free agent mode in terms of

545
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Speaker 2: what the front office is looking for and kind of

546
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Speaker 2: the timeline of things, and just how.

547
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Speaker 1: Excited are you to start kind of digging into both

548
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Speaker 1: of those and.

549
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Speaker 2: Maybe trying to find that one piece or those two

550
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Speaker 2: pieces that that fit that room and kind of just

551
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Speaker 2: really level off that room to be a good versatile group.

552
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Speaker 1: No, it was good.

553
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Speaker 5: I just I've finished up my free agent list here

554
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 5: yesterday and finalized it all right, who we got. I'll

555
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 5: let the guys, I'll let the guys in the front office,

556
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 5: all the brad and coach traddle that one for you.

557
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 5: But you know, there was there were some really good

558
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 5: players on that list. Had some you know, some with

559
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 5: some unique skill sets, some just you know, well rounded

560
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 5: types of guys.

561
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Speaker 1: It's all over the board.

562
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Speaker 5: You know, It's it's fun trying to piece them together

563
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 5: and kind of you know, see who's you know, who

564
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:21,719
Speaker 5: does this? Who does this?

565
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 1: A lot of names very.

566
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 5: Familiar with just from you know, being in the league

567
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 5: for the last five seasons. You see these names in

568
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 5: crossover tape, you watch them and then just kind of

569
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 5: getting to watch and kind of stack them up versus

570
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 5: you know, what they do well, what they don't.

571
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Speaker 1: Are there things you think that.

572
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 5: You know can be fixed that they might not do

573
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 5: as well, that there's certain things that's you know, who

574
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Speaker 5: they are. And I'm excited to see, you know, whatever

575
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 5: happens there. And then in terms of the draft, you know,

576
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Speaker 5: it's got my you know, my first initial list of

577
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 5: you know, getting ready for the combine and for the

578
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,199
Speaker 5: Evals and just started digging into that here yesterday, and

579
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Speaker 5: I know there's I've already watched them that I'm I'm

580
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 5: a big fan of, haven't gotten too far into it yet,

581
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 5: so obviously, yeah, I can't can't reveal who they are,

582
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 5: but no, there's there's definitely once again, you know, all

583
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 5: over in terms of different skill sets that bring value

584
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 5: and you know, run game, pass game, and it's such

585
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 5: a fun position that way because they're really you know,

586
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 5: it's a Swiss Army night position that you know, more

587
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 5: that they can do is the better off that your

588
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 5: offense can be in, more multiple you can be and

589
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 5: just kind of enhance the guys around them as well

590
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 5: as make them a focal point, you know, when that's

591
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 5: the type of guy that they are.

592
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Speaker 2: You know, I want to finish with this, Steven, because

593
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: I've talked with some other coaches and and you know,

594
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 2: some other guys have mentioned you it's kind of this

595
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 2: this up and coming kind of guy, a guy that

596
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 2: they kind of rely on, you know, especially you know

597
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 2: with some of the technical stuff, the computer stuff that analytics,

598
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 2: you know, some of the kind of new form stuff.

599
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Speaker 1: I'm just curious. You know, Dan Campbell was a you know.

600
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Speaker 2: Tight ends coach that that worked his way up. I'm

601
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Speaker 2: curious what's the what's the path for you? Kind of

602
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 2: where do you see this thing? Kind of working out

603
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 2: what's what what's the ultimate goal of coaching for you?

604
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 5: I mean ultimate goal. It's interesting you ask, because I've

605
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 5: always kind of done it in shorter term goals that

606
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 5: it was, you know, when I was GA back in college,

607
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 5: is okay, I want to get my first room. Then

608
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 5: you get that, it's okay, I want to get one

609
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 5: in the next level. And the NFL wasn't necessarily on

610
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 5: my radar until you know, I played for Hank Furly

611
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 5: in college, his very first job, and then you know

612
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 5: that was nine years, eight nine years whatever it was

613
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 5: previous to me being here, and then just once you

614
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,959
Speaker 5: got up here, it was okay, you know, let's take

615
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 5: the next step. So I came in as a quality

616
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 5: control wanted to, okay, let me get to an assistant

617
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 5: position coach role, and then then it's just been you know,

618
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 5: trying to you know, get my get my shot when

619
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 5: it's time to run the room, and you know, take

620
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 5: full advantage of that and make it the best job

621
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Speaker 5: I have. But I mean down the road, you know,

622
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Speaker 5: I'd love to, you know, be able to be an

623
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Speaker 5: offensive coordinator at some point whether you know, still have

624
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 5: a lot to learn still, but it's gonna help, I know,

625
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 5: with an online background as well as you know, having

626
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 5: you know, the past game part of it now and

627
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 5: then also I've wanted to leave myself, you know, multiple

628
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 5: avenues as long as possible where if it does make it,

629
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 5: where you transition back to an offensive line coach down

630
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 5: the road. Having that background and learning from Hank for

631
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 5: five years, I mean, one of the best and best

632
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 5: NFL to do it, and you know, just the detail

633
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 5: he teaches with the way, you know, the simplicity that

634
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 5: he makes complex things poll and it's the little technique

635
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 5: you know, tips, the trade that way that have helped.

636
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 5: But now being able to you know, whatever the road

637
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 5: may be down there is that would be the opening

638
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 5: goal right now. But I mean, right now, I'm just

639
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 5: playing over my feet or and make sure I do

640
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 5: the best job I can for our guys and our team.

641
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: Right now, you're the guy in the room for the

642
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 2: first time. That's got to be exciting for you. You're

643
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 2: working with a terrific group of titles, and obviously it's

644
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 2: going to be key to whatever the Detroit Lions do offensively.

645
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: Congratulations on the on the movie. We look forward to

646
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: kind of watching your progresses. You go appreciate you.

647
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 5: I appreciate it. Thank you, thank you,