1 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: Advice Sho. Hello, welcome to the Naughty but Nice Show. 2 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: I'm your host Romp Shooter and its Satursday, which means 3 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: our dear friend Mark Loopo joins us. Hey, Lupy are 4 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: you there? 5 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: Lupy lewis here? 6 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: Lupy Lou? How is your family vacation? You? Your mom, Doris, 7 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: I'd believe your dad and your new boyfriend Kevin Jonas 8 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: all went away. How did it go? 9 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 2: Yes, and my brother too, Jonathan. 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: Was there one of them who loves a sandwich. 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 2: Loves a sandwich? No, it was. It was a great 12 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: trip that we had so much fun. My family loves 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: Kevin and they got along really well and it was 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: super relaxing. 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: Was there any moments, any little stress? There is always 16 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of stress when you're spending time with 17 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: a family and somebody new in your life and either 18 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: going to fit in. Was there any. 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: Moments in the moments for me are like sharing a 20 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: bathroom with other people. I am not I'm not good 21 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: at sharing, and it's like my things are everywhere, there's 22 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: no space. Yeah, that was hard. 23 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: The hardest my single friends or my friends that are dating, 24 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: my friends that are not living with a partner, talent 25 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: me the hardest thing, particularly after a certain age. He's 26 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: giving up your bathroom exactly, just like we have two 27 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: bathrooms here, luckily in my apartment, and one is very 28 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: much mine. And if people say to me, sometimes they 29 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: ask what is the secret to a successful marriage a 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: successful partnership? And the first thing I say is separate bathroom? 31 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: So true, you need your own space. Well apart from 32 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: the bathrooms though it went very well. Hey, when do 33 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: we get to meet Kevin Jonas? 34 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: Maybe in a few weeks you can have them or 35 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: cameo or something on the show good. 36 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: Maybe you can record us a little message. Maybe maybe 37 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: does he listen? 38 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: He does, and he loves he loves you, and he 39 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: loves hearing about himself on the show. 40 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: Well, there you go alone. What we've created a monster answer? 41 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: Poor Doris. We don't talk about her anymore. I've been 42 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 1: pushed out for I know. I don't want to cause 43 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: trouble in the family. Look at that they get along 44 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: so well. And a hornby stir in the plot. Okay, 45 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: let's jump into the show. It's a fun show today. 46 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: What time is it? My friends? And this story I 47 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: find just fascinating. So Meghan Markle is shaping her career 48 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: around four a list women, and one of them is 49 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: going to surprise you. So Meghan doesn't want to replicate 50 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: to the success of any one person, but rather she 51 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: is finding an inspiration in several big names. Sources tewn 52 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: page six that Meghan reportedly wants to be a little 53 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: bit of Reese Witherspoon, who doesn't, a little bit of Gwen, 54 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of Glorious Stein and smarty Pants, and 55 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: a little bit get this mark of Kate Middleton. So 56 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: nobody would have expect to see Kate on that list 57 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: because they are very different people. Although get this and 58 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: I love it. Meghan does respect the work that Kate does. 59 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: She respects that Kate who really married into this family too, 60 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: she was not from royal blood. She has managed to 61 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: navigate this family in a way that Megan didn't, and 62 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: instead of hating her for that, she actually admires her. 63 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: I think that's really interesting. It's a really good insight 64 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: into Meghan. What do you think? 65 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I kind of forgot that Kate didn't 66 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: come from royal beginnings and she actually came from very 67 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: humble beginnings, right, and they gave her a hard time 68 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: with that. You know, it was not an easy transition 69 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: for her, So I do give her a lot of 70 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: credit for stepping up, especially in this time after the 71 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: queen has passed and she's been making you know, picking 72 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: up the slack for the family and showing up to 73 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: a lot of events and keeping everything going. So I 74 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: can see that for her. 75 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, they were calling her when she first met him 76 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: commoner Kate. Yes, because Princess Diana was a lady. She 77 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: was part of the aristocracy. She lived in a big, 78 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: big castle type of state Orthorpe Park. It looked like 79 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: Downton Abbe Kate, didn't. She lived a very middle class, 80 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: upper middle class. I mean, it was a very nice life, 81 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: very much like yourself. Mark. The house that Doris has 82 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: is probably very similar to what the Middleton's had a 83 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: very nice upbringing, but certainly not royal, not aristocracy, So 84 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: they're quite her commoner Kate. And now the fact that 85 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: we have forgotten about that tells us what an incredible 86 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: job she's done. I remember when I left pr I 87 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: was a publicist for a long time, and a very 88 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: successful one, to the point where most people would associate 89 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: me with jal Or Britney Spear's or Jessica Simpson or 90 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: one of these big stars. When I wanted to become 91 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: a reporter a columnist, I really had to stop talking 92 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: about that and really reinvent myself. And I've done it. Now. 93 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: If you say Rob Shuda, people think of podcasts, books, columns. 94 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: It's interesting, Mark, have you ever had to reinvent yourself? 95 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: You know? 96 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 2: I had to over the years, you know, reinvent myself, 97 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 2: going from TV to then being a reporter and working 98 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: in digital news, and then going back into TV and podcasting, 99 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 2: and so I think that's the best part of this 100 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 2: is you can reinvent yourself. You can't want you if 101 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: you really want to. 102 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: You really can. The other point I want to make here, though, 103 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: is I'm not sure, Megan, you really want to base 104 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: your future on anybody else based on this. Whenever I've 105 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: tried to copy somebody, I've always failed. When I was 106 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: obsessed with Chelsea Handler for a while, when she had 107 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: that late night show on me, I was on the 108 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: panel twice. I really enjoyed it, but I wasn't witty 109 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: enough because they didn't want reporters, they wanted comedians, and 110 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm not a comedian. I'm very funny, but I'm not 111 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: a stand up to mean, so I don't have jokes 112 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: in my part. Then for a while I was insanely 113 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: jealous of Andy Cohen. I realized I wanted his success, 114 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: not really, I didn't want to be him. I don't 115 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: really like what Andy does that much. I'm not that mean, 116 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: and I don't like watching people fight. Like what he's 117 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: done with those Housewives is a show that I would 118 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: just never produce. It makes me a bit uncomfortable. So 119 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: I think, here, Meghan, I get it. Who doesn't want 120 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: to be Reese Witherspoon. She's glorious? Who doesn't want to 121 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: be or at least have the success that Greeneth has. 122 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't, but her success with them 123 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: is extraordinary, and I'm sure Meghan would love a part 124 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: of goop. Kate's success is extraordinary, glorious styler. I mean, 125 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: come on, a legendary a legendary person. But Meghan, I 126 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: think you should be the best you, not a second 127 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: rate Kate or a second rate Reese, which is what 128 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: you will be if you follow them. When I started 129 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: writing my Bookmark, I read all these other books. I 130 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: was a machine doing research, doing homework, and I did 131 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: the work, but then I had to throw them all 132 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: out because all I was doing was copying somebody else. 133 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: You have to digest the information and then stop and 134 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: then be you. That's quite quite hard because it takes 135 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: a lot of courage being you, Mark. 136 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: I think it's probably the hardest thing you can do, 137 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: is be your self. And it's but I think to 138 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 2: rob to your point, you won't succeed unless you really 139 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: become the best version of yourself and be true to 140 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: what you really are. 141 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: You've got to be yourself. I want it to be 142 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: Wendy Williams for a while when you get working on 143 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: the Wendy Show. But I'm not Wendy. I'm not that girl. 144 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: I'm not that she's a bit naughty, I don't see. 145 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm more of a shady shepherd if the truth be told. 146 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: Have you figured out who you are? 147 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: Mark? 148 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: Are you happy with who? Loopy Lewis? 149 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: I think it's it's an ever growing, an evolving process, 150 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: and I am happier I think in my late thirties 151 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: now it's been one of the most freeing parts of 152 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: my life and then the most honest parts of my life. 153 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: But I'm still I have work to do, and I 154 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: think we all do. 155 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: We all do. It never ends, It shouldn't end, and 156 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: we don't want it to end, because that's part of 157 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: the joy of being alive. But I must have been 158 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: marked on the on the short time the two three 159 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: years we've been doing this podcast, you're much more you 160 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: now on the podcast than when you started. 161 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: I feel that way. And you make it easy too, 162 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: because it's like talking to you, you know, your friend. 163 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: We're having fun, but. 164 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: You're talking about I'm just staring at you on the zoom. 165 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm always shocked Mark when I find out people listen. 166 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: I forget sometimes that it's actually posted live. I just 167 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: feel like I'm having to catch up with you on 168 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: the phone, like I call you once a week. Are 169 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: we gossip? That's what I feel like. We go to 170 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: all our friends what we think about this. It feels 171 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: like that, which is I think the success of the show. Okay, 172 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: I want to know what all you naughties have to 173 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: think about this. It brings us to our pole question 174 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: of the day. Meghan Markle is shaping her career around 175 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: Reese Witherspoon, Gwenna Paltrow and a little bit of Kate Middleton. 176 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: Who do you think Meghan should focus on? If you 177 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: have to pick one of those three, That's basically what 178 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: I'm asking you here. Who do you think Meghan should pick? 179 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: Go vote on our Twitter page naughty nice rare about 180 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: facebook page is naughty gossip and be sure to check 181 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: back to mom Rao to hear your results. Hey, Loopy, 182 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: what are you working on? 183 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? The story breaks my heart. Rob Sandra Bullock put 184 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: her Hollywood career on pause to care for her critically 185 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: ill boyfriend Brian Randall. Mmmmmmmm So when the actress stepped 186 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: out onto the red carpet alongside her co star Channing 187 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 2: Tatum at the premiere of the movie The Lost City 188 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: in March of twenty twenty two, without Randall by her side, 189 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 2: few had a clue as to what was going on 190 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: behind the scenes, and including myself, But apparently Tatum is 191 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: believed to have been a part of a small group 192 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: that was aware that Randall was suffering from alsh and then. 193 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: Since then, Bullock has only been seen a handful of 194 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: times in public. She told CBS Mornings, I want to 195 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: be at home because I was always running. I was 196 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: always running to the next thing. I just want to 197 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 2: be present and responsible for one thing. 198 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: That's him. That's who she was talking about. We and 199 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: we're very good at this mark. We're very good reporters. 200 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: We're very good journalists. I did not know about this. Now. 201 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: I'd heard some rumors and we knew that he had 202 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: moved out of the house for a little bit. It 203 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: looks like he had gone to a hospice now, so 204 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: we thought there was relationship problems. We were wrong. This 205 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: relationship was rock solid. And the reason Sandra took a 206 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: step back and she did, we all saw that she 207 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: wasn't working as much. The reason she took a step 208 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: back is she wanted to focus on this really devastating, 209 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: devastating event in her life. It's just so beautiful and heartbreaking, 210 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: and it tells you who Sandra Bullock is. And the 211 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: fact that we didn't know about it makes me like 212 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: her more. Now that sounds crazy coming from a gossip columnist, 213 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: but I love a secret and I really respect you 214 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: for it, and particularly secrets about health. We don't do 215 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: health news on this show. We do the news when 216 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: it breaks, but if I get a tip that somebody 217 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: is sick, I had a tip that somebody who had 218 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: cancer and we don't do that new so we don't 219 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 1: report it. And that's just one of the things here 220 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: that I think makes us who we are who we are. 221 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: So I really respect Sandra for this, and I also 222 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: love the fact that she has an inner circle. You 223 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: have to have that group of friends. I have it. 224 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: It took me a long time to build it, and 225 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: I think people would be surprised that my inner circle 226 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: is not Countess Lunn and some of your more goan 227 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: all these fools that I hang out with or you 228 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: see photographs of me with dancing in bars. I have 229 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: a really small group of really good friends, most of 230 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: which do not even work in this business. 231 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 2: What about you, Yeah, exactly. I think the entertainment business, 232 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: it could be very trendyed and people are fleeting and 233 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: moments are fleeting, and I think you have to ground 234 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: yourself with the people that really do care. And you're 235 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 2: can have fun and have those entertainment celebrity friends you 236 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 2: can go out with and have drinks, but at the 237 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: end of the day, when something goes really wrong, you 238 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: want people in your corner who are going to care. 239 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: For people in your corner. 240 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 241 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: One of my heart breaks about Wendy is that she 242 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: doesn't appear to have everybody you know that I've been 243 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 1: talking to Wendy and seeing her. I posted a picture 244 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: of us out for dinner, and she held onto my 245 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: hand that night like she didn't want to let go Mark. 246 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: And at the end of the night, I took her home. 247 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: I went back to her apartment. So most friends, you 248 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: i'd throw in an uber. I do that said goodbye, 249 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: get your own uber. But like Wendy, I got Wendy 250 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: home and then when we got home, she had trouble 251 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: getting out of the car into the apartment. So I 252 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: walked with her to her front door of the apartment 253 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: and she was like, please come up, please, please come up. 254 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: And then I sat with her for a few hours 255 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: because she had nobody around. And what maybe sad was 256 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm it like, I'm all you've got, like you don't 257 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: know me that way. We know each other over ten 258 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: to fifteen years of being on the show. We know 259 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: each other. But I didn't consider myself a close friend. 260 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: Now maybe I do because I've spent a lot of 261 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: time talking with people. Talk to your friends, get on 262 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: the phone, and the stuff that you don't think is important, 263 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: becomes important, So tell them all the little details of 264 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: your life, and that's how you build these amazing bonds. Sandra, 265 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: we are sending you our love. Okay, moving along. Lizzo 266 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: faces more sexual harassment allegations from six six more people, 267 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: so more people accusing Lizzo of inappropriate sexual behavior after 268 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: the singer was sued for sexual harassment by three of 269 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: her former backup dancers. Attorney who is representing the lawsuit 270 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: against Lizo confirmed that he has been reviewing and vetting 271 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: new complaints from at least six people who have similar stories. 272 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: He said in a statesman to the lawyer that these 273 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: accusers are brave for speaking aaron, coming forward with their experiences, 274 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: and this has opened the door for other people to 275 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: feel more empowered to share. This is what happens when 276 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: a story breaks. It's like pulling your finger out of 277 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: a dam. The floodgates open. So we knew for a 278 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 1: long time that Ellen was not the nicest celebrity, but 279 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: who's going to say it, Who's going to risk that? 280 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: She's so powerful? Then slowly, a couple more and then 281 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: the floodgates open. It's the same with celebrities that have 282 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: affairs that cheat. It's the first one. That's the hardest 283 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: story to tell, Mark, And then you find a pattern, 284 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: don't you agree? 285 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: Is in that your experience of this, Oh there are 286 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 2: the same these stories. When they break, it just the 287 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 2: gushes out info and you know, I'm really disturbed and 288 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: truly just disappointed in this whole thing. And it's funny. 289 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: I was in the audience of Watch It Happens Live 290 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: last week when Lizza was the guest. She's promoting her 291 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 2: reality show, and several of the dancers were the bartenders, 292 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 2: and in between commercial breaks, they were drinking and fanning 293 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: each other and dancing around and tworking, and I'm like, 294 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 2: what where did this all go wrong? What happened? 295 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: So she was interacting with them and being nice, and oh, yeah, why, 296 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: that's a really good insight. I have a friend who 297 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: worked on the tour behind the scene, such a technical person, 298 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: and he said she was very tough. But he also 299 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: said he worked with Michael Jackson and other people like that. 300 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: He said they were tough, and you'd never say that 301 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: about a man. So part of me was like, oh, 302 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,479 Speaker 1: is this because she's a woman. But it's gonna all 303 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: all come out Okay, quickly before we get a break. 304 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: What's happening with Billy Porter? 305 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Billy Porter says he has to sell 306 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: his house because of the strikes. Oh he said, quote, 307 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: I have to sell my house because we're on strike, 308 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: and I don't know when we're going back to work. 309 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: The life of an artist until you make fu money, 310 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: which I haven't made yet. It is still checked to check. 311 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 2: Mmmmm mmmmmm. 312 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: What do you think it's it's so interesting, Mark. We 313 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: always think famous people are super rich and they're not. 314 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: I worked with a lot of famous people who struggled financially. 315 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: You wouldn't believe it. Some of them are on the 316 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: covers of the magazines and they couldn't afford the life 317 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: that you think they have. Earning money in show business 318 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: is actually very hard. Earning a wage that you can 319 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: live on in show business is very very hard. And 320 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: so unless you're a Taylor Swift or a Beyonce, you 321 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: really have to think about this. And I think it's 322 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: interesting that Billy has pointed out he lived paycheck to paycheck. 323 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: He doesn't have savings. Those clothes alone probably cost him 324 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: a fortune half his salary Mark. And so when you 325 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: look at people showing off peacocking around. That's what I 326 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: like to call it. It's not always the truth. Mark. 327 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: Have you found that some of the people that you 328 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: think are really rich, even friends, are not quite as 329 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: rich as you think. 330 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: It's true. One of my first bosses from the Tyra 331 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: Banks Show told me this. He is like, save your 332 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: money because you never know when the check's gonna stop. 333 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: And you know, work entertainment. And it's true because people 334 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: you think this is going to last forever, these checks, 335 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 2: these big opportunities, and when the world comes to a heart, 336 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 2: what do you do you have to really be you know, 337 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: have that money, see if you can, you know, get 338 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: yourself through an emergency. And I'm kind of surprised in 339 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 2: some ways that Billy didn't have any kind of savings 340 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: because he's been in a lot of successful projects and 341 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: maybe he spent too much of his money. 342 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, right. That's part of the problem too, 343 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: is that they start spending like the Relton John right 344 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: when they're not when they're Billy Porter like, It's a 345 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: complicated world, isn't it. But Billy, if you need a 346 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: sofa to sleep on call, but don't share the bathroom. Right, 347 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: take a quick break, but we will be right back. 348 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Naughty but Nice Show. I'm hey, Loopie. 349 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: We didn't have a poll last show because our lead 350 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: story was Sandra Bullock and it just wasn't right doing 351 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: a poll about that. But don't forget to vote on 352 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: today's poll. Go to our Twitter page at Naughty Nice 353 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: Rob at Facebook page Naughty Gossip. Who do you think 354 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: Megan should be like Greece? Do you think? Kay? Two? 355 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: Do you think? Check back tomorrow to hear your results. 356 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: And now it's time for the nicest of the day. 357 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: Wow, are nicest of the day. It's Jamie Dornan. We 358 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 2: like him. Here he recalled being jealous of his pal 359 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: Robert Pattinson. I know it's interesting. So the Fifty Shades 360 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 2: star explained that he was envious of Pattinson, who was 361 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: making a name for himself as a vampire heart throb 362 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 2: Edward Cullen when the pair, as well as pals Andrew 363 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 2: Garfield and Eddie Radmond, were roommates over eight decade ago. 364 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: They were roommates. What I'd love to be in that room, 365 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: A flying the wall in that room? 366 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 2: Oh yes, he said Jimmy said quote, I probably at 367 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 2: one point was quite jealous of him, like early on 368 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 2: when we were all friends back in London and Rob 369 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 2: was just going places and we sort of weren't what 370 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:53,479 Speaker 2: do you think of this? Oh? 371 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: I think I love that he's admitted this because we're 372 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: all jealous of somebody. What I say is jealousy for 373 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: myself and maybe for you two, it's a it's showing 374 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: you what you want. So when you were jealous about 375 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: somebody about something, look at what they have. I used 376 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: to get really jealous when I turn on the TV 377 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: and see entertainment reporters from People and US Weekly and 378 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: Radar on the morning shows doing the celebrity GLARSSIP. I 379 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: used to get so jealous when I was watching a 380 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: documentary on v H one and I'd see somebody talking 381 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: about Kim Kardashian and Kanye Away. So I used to 382 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: get really really jealous of that. So what did they 383 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: do instead of focusing on the person and I hate 384 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: that person? I got on those shows myself. I did 385 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: it myself, so it actually was helpful. Jealousy, I think 386 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: is a very helpful emotion. Now. What I must confess, though, 387 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: is what still makes me jealous is when I see 388 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: fools on TV who have no business being there. So 389 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm only jealous of you if you're actually any good. 390 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: But there's a lot of people. Someone called Josh no 391 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: more of that who was on TV a lot more, 392 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: and I used to drive me insane, not because I 393 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: wanted what he had, but I was furious that I 394 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: phony below he was on TV with no experience. So 395 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: that's what makes me jealous the most. 396 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 2: What about you, Rob Wilson. When I think about jealousy, 397 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: I think about it in the way that you describe 398 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 2: it now, And it's true. It is a guiding force, guideline, 399 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: and it's not about anyone else. This is a journey 400 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 2: that we're on our own journey, our own path, and 401 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: we're not in a race with anyone but herself. So 402 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 2: I remind myself of that too. 403 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: Remind yourself. So it's a lighthouse, it's showing you the way. 404 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: It's a map. Okay, let's not his name, naughty, naughty, naughty. 405 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: Jeff Lewis called Kyle Richards a quote lesbian on Ozempin 406 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: oh amid the rumors that she's having an affair with 407 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: Morgan Wade, so he was on Watch What Happens Live, 408 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: and he started talking about his friends on the Beverly 409 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: Hills Housewives, and he's very close with Kyle, or he 410 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: was until he said this, and he said, quote, Kyle 411 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: and I are friends. She didn't tell me she's a 412 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: lesbian on a zempic. Now what he's referring to is 413 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: she's lost a lot of weight. She said, it's not 414 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: as z empig, and that she's hanging out with Morgan Wade, 415 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: which she said are just friends. It's just so naughty 416 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: and if she is indeed having a relationship with Morgan, 417 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: that's really her story, I think to tell. And naughty 418 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: is the day. Let's end with a moment of rob 419 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: you'renna rob, you rub you get a robber. 420 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 3: Sometimes you meet someone and you know from the first 421 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 3: moment that you want to spend the rest of your 422 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 3: life without them. 423 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: Yes, you thought I was going to say something else, 424 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: didn't You trust your gut. I've met people and I 425 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: knew right away that I didn't really want to spend 426 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: any time with them. I knew they were trouble, and 427 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: I didn't listen to my gut and it always ended 428 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: up biting me in the bottom. So when people tell 429 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: you who they are, believe them. And the people that 430 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: you don't want to spend time with don't. They don't change. 431 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: You know who I'm talking about. Okay, that's it for today. 432 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to the Naughty Ben 433 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: Eyes with Robber Mark Show, a production of iHeart Radio. 434 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: Don't forget to subscribe on the iHeart Radio wrap upp 435 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: a podcast or whatever you listen, leave us a review 436 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: if you can, and all together now remember, if you're 437 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: going to be naughty, you've got to be nice. Take 438 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: care everybody. It's not even nice with Bro