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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Blowing out of the backfield,
Speaker 1: exploding down the sidelines. He's hanging with the Boys. Broadcasting
Speaker 1: live from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star in Frisco.
Speaker 1: Now your host. Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and Shannon gross
Speaker 1: Ot starred week two of training camp. Nate. Shannon got
Speaker 1: a couple of special guests on the show. Brought us
Speaker 1: welcome back to the show. Appreciate that in a very
Speaker 1: unfamiliar face that kind of disappeared, disappeared. Who've actually never
Speaker 1: been on this show. Taylor Stern, welcome to the show
Speaker 1: for the first time ever. Hanging with the boy and
Speaker 1: take that's right, and girl and girl. So what's been happening, Taylor?
Speaker 1: Just hanging out, enjoying this nice weather, hanging out with
Speaker 1: these guys a lot. Yeah, Nate bringing wisdom every day,
Speaker 1: Nate always brings wisdom. Brought us just watching tape, grinding
Speaker 1: on the tape. Yeah, I gotta figure this thing out.
Speaker 1: Take what so brought us? What update us what you're
Speaker 1: seeing on the tape? Man? No, no, no, what's gonna
Speaker 1: have a for one segment, so that segmentizer. Okay, so
Speaker 1: you started, yeah, segmentizing, So take tay, what take this?
Speaker 1: It's good to see you here. It's good to see
Speaker 1: that you missing, uh doing you doing your thing here
Speaker 1: on starting network? Uh what's your take on camp? I mean, what,
Speaker 1: what's your field? What is it any players that you've
Speaker 1: been watching and trying to keep the interest in you
Speaker 1: just kind of moving on? Yes, Yes, my take on
Speaker 1: campus that it was a tad boring the first few
Speaker 1: days and I'm boring. You know, they were just in
Speaker 1: their shirts and shorts, no pads. Now we've gotten in pads.
Speaker 1: You're seeing a little bit more. You know, your guy
Speaker 1: Tyrone has been the most vocal guy out there, but
Speaker 1: yesterday Lance Lenore got a little chippy, which I like
Speaker 1: to see. Right, He's one of those guys that worked
Speaker 1: out with Dak a lot um. Now I think it's good.
Speaker 1: I think guys in particular though I'm looking at and
Speaker 1: we were just talking about him before, is Byron Jones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but then Brian made a good point earlier. He's had
Speaker 1: a few really good training camps sure in his career. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but then it's what do you do after Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: made you know, he's made a lot of starts. We
Speaker 1: talked about forty eight games that he's played. But you know,
Speaker 1: we have seen this a little bit from Byron Jones
Speaker 1: where yeah, last year he probably wish your training camp
Speaker 1: MVP and you're hopeful, and you're like, Okay, great, he's
Speaker 1: gonna here we go Byron Jones Pro Bowl and then
Speaker 1: you know, and then he has this kind of an
Speaker 1: okay season. I'm very hopeful with what we've seen with
Speaker 1: Christia Shard. I'm interested in what you know. You're you're
Speaker 1: one of those people that likes to get in the
Speaker 1: middle of things. So you and Chris R. Shard are
Speaker 1: kind of the same when it comes to your job.
Speaker 1: You're getting in the middle of things like that. But
Speaker 1: I'm hopeful with Chris Richard that he can that he
Speaker 1: can get Byron Jones to that next level. You know.
Speaker 1: You know, we've seen him at right corner. He's made
Speaker 1: some really nice plays, some athletic plays, and I'm hopeful
Speaker 1: that it's just you know, the training camp carried up
Speaker 1: to the next level for him. Did you see Chris
Speaker 1: Roshard yesterday? Did you see when they were doing the
Speaker 1: offensive defensive line drills. You know, they kind of come
Speaker 1: to this end of this field. You guys have a
Speaker 1: good view of that over here. But they were on
Speaker 1: the other side doing a couple wide receiver dB drills
Speaker 1: and one of the guys I think picked off Blake Jarwin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's like, run through their drill. Who cares that?
Speaker 1: Don't care? Yeah, And it's like, oh, we haven't seen
Speaker 1: that before. Well it's different with him. I think that.
Speaker 1: And Jason Garrett even addressed that today a little bit
Speaker 1: that he's okay, you know, he nay. You guys are
Speaker 1: from that era where there was a lot of coaching involved.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of hard time of practices. That's Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett's background. When you talk about hey, you know he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm okay with all the kind of the dawn back
Speaker 1: and forth, the pushing to shove, and you know, he's
Speaker 1: he's all okay. Some coaches don't like that. I know,
Speaker 1: the guy who saw a story of the guy in Tampa,
Speaker 1: he's like, I have no time for fights. I have
Speaker 1: no time for that kind of stuff like that. You know,
Speaker 1: but you know, he, Jason Garrett does come from an
Speaker 1: era where you guys were pretty competitive in that way.
Speaker 1: Coaches and players. You know, this is this is what's amazing,
Speaker 1: and this is what's been dead around here for maybe
Speaker 1: three or four years, five longer than that. You guys
Speaker 1: have been alone enough to see a lot of training camps.
Speaker 1: And the first thing I noticed when I walked out
Speaker 1: here with the new the new guys I'm time with
Speaker 1: Jason guys, is you could not and Jimmy's era, you
Speaker 1: could not out coach our coaches vocally. You would have
Speaker 1: Tony Wise on this and coaching loud vocally so you
Speaker 1: will understand what he's saying. You will have one stat
Speaker 1: with his guys, who was the defense according to you
Speaker 1: would hear him. If Tony got quiet just one octave,
Speaker 1: you would hear one stat. You would hear Butch Davis
Speaker 1: over here. Yeah, and so you know, and so it's
Speaker 1: been like you know, going to you know, to a monastery. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everything's quiet. Then you get Rob Marinella and he's a
Speaker 1: fresh you know, and you hear him coaching. Now you
Speaker 1: got coaching coaching. Now you got coach Bloom coaching. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying the other coaches that were here are
Speaker 1: not coaching, but in the grind of a camp when
Speaker 1: you become that okay, fellas, let's get going, versus hey, fellas,
Speaker 1: get your hey man, I'm not standing for that. This
Speaker 1: is how yeah, you know, getting a guy attention, waking
Speaker 1: the guy up. And I'm not saying that this is
Speaker 1: gonna make this team a playoff team or whatever. But
Speaker 1: guys are gonna get used to being coach. And they're
Speaker 1: young guys and they're very receptive and and when I
Speaker 1: saw that on film, it's just it's just remind me
Speaker 1: of old days, man, when guys was excited about playing.
Speaker 1: So you as a player, if you're a little key player,
Speaker 1: that's one thing. But if you're a player that runs
Speaker 1: off the juice like most college players are, right right,
Speaker 1: young team, Yeah, yeah, I got I got a question
Speaker 1: for you, Taylor. You've got a very unique special relationship
Speaker 1: with coach Marinelli. Yes, he's almost like seriously, like seriously,
Speaker 1: he's not lying, like taking you under his wing. And
Speaker 1: he gives you books to read, and he prints things
Speaker 1: out that he gives the players and gives that to
Speaker 1: you to read. What have you. You know, people that
Speaker 1: don't know him, when you see him coaching, he's an
Speaker 1: animal like he's cussing and screaming, but he's the most
Speaker 1: soft spoke, spoken reserve person. Off of it. What have
Speaker 1: you learned from him? And look, what can you tell
Speaker 1: like the fans that are listening about him as a
Speaker 1: man and as a coach, is that he cares about
Speaker 1: his players as men. You know, I remember, I think
Speaker 1: I really built my relationship up with him my second year,
Speaker 1: so it would have been probably the twenty sixteen season.
Speaker 1: We started kind of sharing books, sharing different readings, different
Speaker 1: things like that. And you're right, he's very philosophical with
Speaker 1: his teachings. Merlin Olsen, he gave me a huge thing
Speaker 1: on him last night, and then of course, you know,
Speaker 1: just some of his little symbols. But I think the
Speaker 1: best thing and Dave wrote an amazing article about Charles Tapper,
Speaker 1: So he really cares about these guys as men. You know,
Speaker 1: you see him out there with Randy greg Grey coming
Speaker 1: back from everything he's been dealing with. Tyrone Crawford thought
Speaker 1: even when David Irving was here practicing, he was with him.
Speaker 1: But he's just he's so incredible in the way he
Speaker 1: teaches and the goals he sets. One time he was
Speaker 1: opening his phone in front of me, and I could
Speaker 1: see he had been texting. I think maybe his you know,
Speaker 1: Defense D Line group, it's that or something, and he
Speaker 1: had just been sending them readings. He's just like pumping
Speaker 1: them up with like mind stuff too, yeah, and getting
Speaker 1: them ready. You mentioned Randy Gregory, what's the latest brought us?
Speaker 1: I heard him maybe he's practicing this Africa. They took him.
Speaker 1: They took him off NFI, which means they were now
Speaker 1: that allows him to practice them the walkthroughs and the
Speaker 1: stuff like that this morning. I Jason Garrett was even
Speaker 1: talking about it today that he says, no, no, we
Speaker 1: just need to get him. We're still going to take
Speaker 1: our time with him and stuff like that. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be you know, and yeah, I know I'm
Speaker 1: with rubbing his head too and so, but no, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be more about the stuff they do in the
Speaker 1: morning walkthroughs, get him acclimated for that. I don't anticipate
Speaker 1: him doing anything this week, and I maybe even next week.
Speaker 1: We can see him leading up to them. There's a
Speaker 1: couple of practices before they actually play. I don't see
Speaker 1: him playing. I was very hopeful guys that we were
Speaker 1: able to see him this week that maybe today he
Speaker 1: was going to get more involved and then you know,
Speaker 1: maybe practice three days in a row, take Friday off
Speaker 1: and then get him ready for potentially for the Blue
Speaker 1: and White scrimmage on Sunday. But it doesn't look like
Speaker 1: that's the case. They're really really taking their time with
Speaker 1: with Randy Gregory. Why are you rubbing? You hiding? I mean,
Speaker 1: so we we what he's he's he's out of the
Speaker 1: pampers and now he's gotten a little shorts we put
Speaker 1: up and he tell us what he can use the
Speaker 1: six time proos. Next thing, you know, we're gonna break
Speaker 1: him off the Pacifire. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: can tell us what he needs to use the restaurant. Yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: come on, man, this guy's twenty four years old. Let
Speaker 1: him play, you know. And and I'm not saying let
Speaker 1: him bang bang bang, but far he's getting in there
Speaker 1: with walkthroughs, getting in there with guys on individual I mean,
Speaker 1: if you feel like his legs is going or something,
Speaker 1: you know, if something ain't clicking, you can take him
Speaker 1: out of that. I mean now, and don't you know, okay,
Speaker 1: don't do no team, don't don't get physical, but a
Speaker 1: walk through, a walk through, come on, man. Well, the
Speaker 1: thing that the thing that I was worried about, guys,
Speaker 1: and I've said it on our show in the morning,
Speaker 1: was I was worried that the league was gonna say
Speaker 1: Randy couldn't practice. You know, remember they're talking about and
Speaker 1: so my my thought was, all of a sudden, here
Speaker 1: we get there. They go ahead from the league. Yes,
Speaker 1: the after care programs in place. Here we go, now
Speaker 1: he's allowed to practice. I was sitting there thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be practicing sooner than later, and this
Speaker 1: this Oxnard time, it could be a little monotonous with practice.
Speaker 1: The you know, the schedule the way it is, but
Speaker 1: you know, if you're missing training camp practices, you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's your foundation. He's absolutely right. When you get
Speaker 1: back to the Star, it's gonna be about they have
Speaker 1: one cut, that final cut. But a lot of guys
Speaker 1: find ways to practice well, and then they get reps
Speaker 1: during the preseason games, and then they find ways to
Speaker 1: make the team. It appears to me that my attitude
Speaker 1: about Randy Gregory's going to have to make this team
Speaker 1: is probably absolutely wrong because now, to me, it's like
Speaker 1: they're gonna put Randy Gregor on his fifty three. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't see with the way that they're saying, oh,
Speaker 1: we're taking things. So if they really wanted to find
Speaker 1: out about Randy Gregory, they would find out. Like Nate Sis,
Speaker 1: throw him out there, let him practice, let him, you know,
Speaker 1: let him see if he can play in the Blue
Speaker 1: White scrimmage, limb, see if he can play against the
Speaker 1: forty Niners. Let him see if caing play. You know,
Speaker 1: these pre seasons brought us. My thing is not even that. Okay,
Speaker 1: if you not even play him in the preseason game,
Speaker 1: in the blue and white game, that's fine, But not
Speaker 1: letting him go through the walk through, Well, he's going
Speaker 1: through the walk throughs out. He didn't do him out
Speaker 1: today today, today. That should have last week, a walk
Speaker 1: through the NFL. You you fought, hey man, We we wrote,
Speaker 1: we wrote dissertations, speeches everything. Team members showed up. It's
Speaker 1: Jones showed up. Let this guy back, give him a
Speaker 1: chance he deserves. He's done everything, he's rehabbed, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, hey man walks, who's too hard? Yeah,
Speaker 1: come on, man. Speaking of the Blue twenty four Blue
Speaker 1: Light Scrimmage is Sunday, August the fifth. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: appeared as an autographs from Rowdy, the Fat Basket of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. They're gonna have a youth combine out here
Speaker 1: and authentic Cowboys merchandise for the whole family. Yeah. I've
Speaker 1: been out there, been out through the trailer. They got
Speaker 1: a couple of big trailers set up out there, and uh,
Speaker 1: everything looks good. So yeah, come in. They got a
Speaker 1: big over here too, on the other side as well too. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: you brought us. I want her to read soon as
Speaker 1: brought us, get through to see she can do better.
Speaker 1: I love competition. Babe and White Scrimmage Sunday, August fifth,
Speaker 1: Appearances and autographs from Rowdy, the official mascot of the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. You're sorry, Yeah, he's just jumped on you
Speaker 1: know you want a second shot. No, I was just
Speaker 1: trying to casually slip it in and now you just
Speaker 1: you trying to be smooth with it. Man. My girls
Speaker 1: just laid the lad out on you bad it. See's
Speaker 1: one thing I like about brought us and this is
Speaker 1: this one thing. One thing you know, I tell this
Speaker 1: is No, it's what I love about brought us. Okay.
Speaker 1: I got a brother that's a police officer, was ex
Speaker 1: police officer. I got a best friend as police officer.
Speaker 1: And they are so observative everything, and and they tell said, Nate,
Speaker 1: just because I don't have on a uniform them that
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not reserved. You read that thing halfway through,
Speaker 1: and by time you got through, Broad was telling you
Speaker 1: what everything was stationed. Yeah, I know. He's so observant,
Speaker 1: and that's the scouting him. Yeah, I mean he could
Speaker 1: be talking at the breakfast tables, just talking, talking, talking,
Speaker 1: and which is a problem. Yeah, Nate's like, Nate looks
Speaker 1: at me at breakfast. It's serious. Nate looks at me like,
Speaker 1: why are you even talking to me right now? And
Speaker 1: I'm like and I'm like, hey, heyd you see that,
Speaker 1: Daniel He goes, he goes. He just looked at me
Speaker 1: like man, just quiet quiet. The best is when Broader
Speaker 1: starts going, okay, okay, we can make this. Would you
Speaker 1: rather Yeah? Did he give you the one the one
Speaker 1: day killers? Like gas chamber? No gas chambers, Taylor, what
Speaker 1: would be your last your gas chamber meal? Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you were going to the gas chamber. You got twelve
Speaker 1: hours to live. I truly do know this, but this
Speaker 1: shows you my modest living. I grew up on um
Speaker 1: spam Texas Roadhouse, I think, yes, I love I love
Speaker 1: Texas Roadhouse. Get a spot Texas Roadhouse. Now on the
Speaker 1: phone today, I wish you're gonna pull a law Biden citizen.
Speaker 1: You ever seen that movie Steak Knives. Yeah, it would be.
Speaker 1: Start off obviously with the amazing cinnamon rolls type of
Speaker 1: eggs they have. You know, just started off lots of butter.
Speaker 1: Butter was my first word as a baby, so you
Speaker 1: know that says where I'm at in live. And then
Speaker 1: of course a pre meal caesar salad, no anchovies, that's disgusting.
Speaker 1: Then you go into your broadest like some Then you
Speaker 1: go into your eight ounce medium rare steak with a
Speaker 1: baked potato all the mother yea, all the way. And
Speaker 1: then of course you ended off with some cheesecake and
Speaker 1: red wine on the side. It's your classy, yeah, curse
Speaker 1: your class. Can you have alcohol in the gas chamber?
Speaker 1: Yeah you have. I think they give you a beer.
Speaker 1: I think they'll give you a beer. Well, give me
Speaker 1: a glass of one ninety, right, there. No, they're gonna
Speaker 1: get out of They ain't gonna deprive himself with a
Speaker 1: smoking you out with ye. Man, this is a positive shop.
Speaker 1: So Tay, you never get to come on this show.
Speaker 1: What would you like to ask a former Super Bowl
Speaker 1: champ and pro bowler Brian Bars if you could ask
Speaker 1: him one question? We always hes gonna be really honest.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a great question. You're gonna be
Speaker 1: really honest with me. Never know me tell your tale? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the truth. Okay, okay, a lot of tales, but
Speaker 1: they're always the truth. If you if you say honest question,
Speaker 1: who was the first person you called after you won
Speaker 1: your first Super Bowl? Everybody was there? My family? Oh,
Speaker 1: I have called nobody. Who would have been one person
Speaker 1: you would have called if they weren't there? Would have
Speaker 1: been your mom. I don't know, I don't know. Everybody
Speaker 1: was there. That's a good question. Everybody was. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean i'd want everyone. Yeah about my mom? How many
Speaker 1: people do you bring the super Bowl part? About twenty five? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but missus Jones give us gave us fifty? Oh, dang,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Ye let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: They really we would we would have. He would give
Speaker 1: us about twenty five or thirty. But you if you,
Speaker 1: if he like you, yeah, you get on. And then
Speaker 1: I'm tell you what say, what's so amazing is uh
Speaker 1: they would give us these Super Bowl tickets and the
Speaker 1: smart teams would say, okay, all you guys who want
Speaker 1: to buy tickets, and I'm talking about the Sharks would
Speaker 1: bring up you know, let let them man, just pop
Speaker 1: it over and they'll tell you, okay, this section, you
Speaker 1: got this section, this is what we're paying. No, no,
Speaker 1: un negotiable. If you got this section, this is what
Speaker 1: we're paying. And uh, when they would talk about and
Speaker 1: is he back in the day he missus Jones would
Speaker 1: give us thirty a few thirties, thirty yard lines and
Speaker 1: a few forty yard man, you know, and if you
Speaker 1: that's the difference between about six or seven thousand dollars
Speaker 1: a ticket. Yeah, and man, that's told my wife, I said,
Speaker 1: now you can bring you a family, I can bring
Speaker 1: you home team grant which money. Yeah, you know, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: Tell you about players. Players will do an interview for
Speaker 1: a T shirt, right, but you know that if you know,
Speaker 1: if they'll do an interview for a T shirt or
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars. You know, guys get paid. I mean
Speaker 1: every Tuesday you get a huge check and you get
Speaker 1: huge check. But you offer a guy like a thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: I'm in yeah, I'm told you, what do I get
Speaker 1: out of this? Yeah? You get you get a dinner
Speaker 1: for four at You know, as long as you get
Speaker 1: as you're getting something, you gotta get somethinging you get
Speaker 1: a T shirt, you gotta get money. You gotta get
Speaker 1: something out of the deal. You're not gonna do it
Speaker 1: just for free. They did that DCM Pro Shop photo
Speaker 1: shoot with Layton Vanderesh and Michael Gallup today and they
Speaker 1: were like turning on the shirts there do we get
Speaker 1: to keep the Yeah? And they're like yeah, They're like
Speaker 1: how you do? And they're like, oh yes, ye, Like
Speaker 1: that's what said these guys. Yeah, some of those guys,
Speaker 1: remember some of them make millions, make millions of dollars.
Speaker 1: Every Tuesday. They might get they get a check in
Speaker 1: their bank account for seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: But you you say, hey, us, I got something for
Speaker 1: you to do. How much do I get out of it?
Speaker 1: You get two grand I mean, this is amazing don't
Speaker 1: do anything for like a shirt to grand whatever. They
Speaker 1: like you, you get that, dude. If they don't like you,
Speaker 1: gotta be cash. If I don't like you, nah, But
Speaker 1: if I like you, hey man, I take out of them.
Speaker 1: Hey matter. We kick it over at the krib. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: my boy, my friend, you're doing you get your set
Speaker 1: off anything you and you go ask a player to
Speaker 1: do something. We can kick it at my crib. Yeah. Well, see,
Speaker 1: back in the day, organization was that the Cowboys has
Speaker 1: always been the Cowboys, but we didn't kick it with
Speaker 1: like like now how we are with the media high
Speaker 1: media is how Dallas Cowboys dot com media with everybody
Speaker 1: that you didn't get in back then with everybody. So yeah,
Speaker 1: nah nah, you had you know, the scouting department was
Speaker 1: the scouting department. The coaches was the coaches, and the
Speaker 1: players of the players, and you had to be unique
Speaker 1: to get in either the scouts want to letting the
Speaker 1: players in and the coaches just went. You know, you
Speaker 1: had to be unique and who you were to get
Speaker 1: to get into each he's surfing now, you know, they
Speaker 1: blow horn and you see all the scouts pushing up
Speaker 1: and the other body else joining them. And pumping up,
Speaker 1: and you know, you go back there to brought US's point.
Speaker 1: I think when you get to this level and this
Speaker 1: day and age where you don't do anything for free, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's more just like you showing them that you appreciate
Speaker 1: their time. Oh sure, and it's like you said, it
Speaker 1: could be a T shirt, but it's something. I'll give
Speaker 1: you a couple of jerseys. Hey, it could be anything.
Speaker 1: How about showing that you appreciate them. How about the
Speaker 1: thing we do in June when they go around to
Speaker 1: all the various stations the media day, they get so
Speaker 1: excited when they get oh my last check, my last check,
Speaker 1: mark I got so now they get to go get
Speaker 1: the goodie back. Right, so there might be some good
Speaker 1: sunglasses steps exactly, but iPad whatever. I mean, they're like
Speaker 1: they get excited about going to get the goodie back.
Speaker 1: Nine seven two four nine seven forty four zero zero
Speaker 1: as I showed number, Yeah I do, I do see
Speaker 1: say nine seven two four nine seven forty four zero zero.
Speaker 1: You beat it though, Yeah that's not I looked at
Speaker 1: it just for a power point, like miss Taylor did. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, so Taylor, before we go to break because
Speaker 1: I know, I just saw your buddy Lindsay pay Yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw Jeremiah. Jeremiah not far behind. So departing question
Speaker 1: or question for me to you, what have you because
Speaker 1: you've been out at all the practices, what have you
Speaker 1: been the most excited to see or what player has
Speaker 1: caught your eye that you were like, Okay, that's somebody
Speaker 1: I'm watching during camp. We all we've all looked at
Speaker 1: number nineteen, the big wi mkil McCay. You know he
Speaker 1: played with Alex at Arkansas? Did he really? He did? Okay,
Speaker 1: he went there and then he went to Cincinnati. Um,
Speaker 1: you know my guy out at this camp. I feel
Speaker 1: like I already said him was Byron Jones. But you know,
Speaker 1: I always love to see Dan Bailey and there were
Speaker 1: a lot of question marks about him. Only missed one
Speaker 1: kick at all these practices, yep, and that was the
Speaker 1: first day, right first day day. So everyone out there
Speaker 1: you can feel good about your fantasy team. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with Dan Bailey because I don't feel like
Speaker 1: anyone else is gonna say him. And then if I
Speaker 1: had to do an honorable mention, is there anybody that
Speaker 1: you've seen that you've been like, Okay, who's that guy?
Speaker 1: What's his name? Because he's impressed me. This one's a
Speaker 1: random one. Was sixty four Antoine Woods. Yeah, defensive tackles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what. Nate has been tooting his horn for
Speaker 1: the last week. You know, I just wait, I just preseason.
Speaker 1: Preseason is gonna give us a lot of these guys
Speaker 1: mass the first two preseasons. He's gonna give us a
Speaker 1: lot of answers on these guys. Hey, guys, I like
Speaker 1: your show. It's really fun here, and our show's awesome
Speaker 1: and entertaining. Yeah, we're unlike snake showing just you know
Speaker 1: that is snake eaglet show. You hanging out, brought us.
Speaker 1: I'll be here all right, brought us hanging out. You're
Speaker 1: going to catch Lindsay yep, and me and Nate will
Speaker 1: be here sweat and it's hot today. My sons beating
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Speaker 1: it's seventy eight degrees and the table is hot. The table.
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Speaker 1: around this table. Yeah. Wow, we got a caller on
Speaker 1: the line. I guess Nate. You called seven two forty
Speaker 1: nine seven four zero. We got Joel and Dallas. What's
Speaker 1: going on with the actor? No, I got I got
Speaker 1: two quick questions. Anyone can weigh in on this, but
Speaker 1: I'm sort of directing these at Nate. Nate, I've I've
Speaker 1: heard you say before that your era Cowboy line was
Speaker 1: more what you called road graders. This group is a
Speaker 1: little more athletic. Yes, given the differences in the offense.
Speaker 1: I'm curious from your era, is there a guy on
Speaker 1: the line who could have played on this line? Successfully
Speaker 1: and started. And the second question is every time I
Speaker 1: see Taco Charlton, I look, I see Tony Tilbert, and
Speaker 1: I mean that is a compliment and I was hoping
Speaker 1: you'd weigh in on that. Thanks, guys. Okay, that's good question. Guys.
Speaker 1: Us guys, I could play and uh in this era
Speaker 1: that Mark Stepnoski, Mark two and Eric william and Lara
Speaker 1: Allen I know for a fact could play in this era. Okay.
Speaker 1: I think his question is of this current group, who
Speaker 1: could play back? Who could have you're starting five super
Speaker 1: Bowl five? Who could be a starter of the current group,
Speaker 1: when you're talking about Smith and you're talking about Connor
Speaker 1: Williams Smith against Smith? Start with our group again? We
Speaker 1: start with their group? Can they start with your group?
Speaker 1: Can they start with your your group? He wants to
Speaker 1: know of your group, which one of these guys could
Speaker 1: be on your group? And and replace and replace. I'll
Speaker 1: take it a step further and replace one of your guys.
Speaker 1: Sorry it ain't working, Okay, let's step it back. The
Speaker 1: only one who could have played with you? Guys? Who
Speaker 1: could have who could have been a starter? Yeah? None, none.
Speaker 1: So you're seeing the one guy that the one guy
Speaker 1: that might have been replaceable. The one guy that might
Speaker 1: have been replaceable might have same might have been I'm
Speaker 1: not saying. And Mark Tune was a hell of a
Speaker 1: football yeah, and you're just saying, you're saying, maybe I
Speaker 1: mean something yesterday about him though, this man's love for
Speaker 1: Mark Stepanowski and you're talking about an undersized center. Yeah,
Speaker 1: smart two sixty five trying sending five call out. You're
Speaker 1: not only calling his own assignments, call out my assignment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, so you're thinking Travis Frederick, Travis Fredick not
Speaker 1: even close between taking step job, No, sir, nah, And
Speaker 1: this this is like all pro alignment here, they are
Speaker 1: future Hall of Famous Yeah no, no, bro. And then
Speaker 1: ain't got nothing to do with because I played with him?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah wow. Now if Kevin Gogan was starting, they
Speaker 1: can you know, easily replace Kevin Gogan if you was
Speaker 1: going with one of the other guys that we had
Speaker 1: before Eric got here, yes, yeah, but once we got Eric,
Speaker 1: we Larry Allen step I don't think he played with
Speaker 1: step but uh me, and it'll be a push because
Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to be funny En, No, no,
Speaker 1: you're not. You're not trying to be funny, but Lawrence
Speaker 1: Taylor in Mark Lawrence Taylan is never getting that note. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you're talking about potentially, potentially he would be the
Speaker 1: guy that might be the replaceable player up with Tyron Smith. Yeah. Yeah, geez,
Speaker 1: I did not expect that answer. That's a great question,
Speaker 1: by the way. Na, Na, no, no, I'm telling you, no,
Speaker 1: you can bring Tony Wise here. Yeah, we don't. Man. Uh,
Speaker 1: seeing that, and when you're trying to replace errors, That's
Speaker 1: why I don't play the error game because how we
Speaker 1: play football back then, it's not how they play football now.
Speaker 1: And I respect tremendously how they play football now. And uh,
Speaker 1: these guys are great potential. I mean, you talk about
Speaker 1: our center, uh Fredericks pretential hall of Famer at the
Speaker 1: Roadies on. You talk about Tyron Smill the Roadies On
Speaker 1: potential Hall of Famer. But you talk about the road
Speaker 1: that definitely the President, the right guard, definitely the presidents. Man,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I mean, awesome, can do it all.
Speaker 1: But they're a different they're a different style. Man. We
Speaker 1: we lined up to mal we lined up to dominate you.
Speaker 1: We lined up to take your heart. We we didn't
Speaker 1: care how athletic name some of the players that we
Speaker 1: played defensive outstanding athletes. We didn't care. Yeah, we like
Speaker 1: we played John Rundell the best thing you can do
Speaker 1: the John Ryders trap him. Uh, we didn't care. We
Speaker 1: didn't care. It's like, we're gonna punish you, bro, We're
Speaker 1: gonna figure out a way to get you deep in
Speaker 1: the game. And once we get you deep in the
Speaker 1: game and we up seven points going into the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: we find the role grade you in the metal. I'm
Speaker 1: interested to see because, okay, what if you could play?
Speaker 1: What if you could play? Because the guy that fits
Speaker 1: what you're talking about is Zack Martin. Right to me,
Speaker 1: Zack Martin is a finisher, a fighter and all that.
Speaker 1: What if Zack Martin played tackle for you guys, would
Speaker 1: he would he be a starter? What if he wasn't
Speaker 1: a duard? What if he came out of Notre Dame
Speaker 1: like he was a he was a starting tackle at
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. What if he would have played tackle? It
Speaker 1: with your with your team. See you're telling about taking
Speaker 1: Eric William Yeah, so Larry yet Larry, because you see
Speaker 1: and then I go back, you got some great deepens. Nine.
Speaker 1: We're talking about Aaron Donald. Yeah, and we talk about
Speaker 1: how great he's. Ben, we talk about Jay J. Watson,
Speaker 1: how great he is. We just talked about a few
Speaker 1: guys and let me explain to him. We talk about
Speaker 1: a few guys that are great on certain teams, name
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles front line. When Jerome Brown was alive,
Speaker 1: I think it was Reggie White, Jerome Brown, Uh, Clyde Simmons,
Speaker 1: and was Mike Gold, Mike Golic and Mike Pitts brother.
Speaker 1: They if Jerome Brown would stayed alive, that was a
Speaker 1: future Hall of Fame Reggie White. Yeah. You has Clyde
Speaker 1: Simmons sixteen sacks in one season. Yeah. Now, and we
Speaker 1: had self, they had self join them, and they had
Speaker 1: Byron Evans at linebackers down. You take these same guys
Speaker 1: and you put them on any team, yeah, and and
Speaker 1: and each one of them to stand out individually. But
Speaker 1: one team had these players. Yeah. You go to Charles
Speaker 1: Mann on the red Skins. You go to uh, Derek Manly.
Speaker 1: Then I can't think of the other cats they had
Speaker 1: on one team. It wasn't a question mark because we
Speaker 1: had no Sarah can Man. You could not move, so
Speaker 1: you you were allowed if you were had a great
Speaker 1: the scouting department, you were allowed to accumulate great players
Speaker 1: and keep them at no at no matter what costs.
Speaker 1: That is not the deal now, so you may face
Speaker 1: too deep, too nice defensive linement. What the Rams have
Speaker 1: assembled this offseason? If when Donald come in, Brockers, come on, man,
Speaker 1: they got rid of Quinn though too Quinn Yeah, and
Speaker 1: a good lineback and they traded for with the with
Speaker 1: the Giants is the Giants of the red Skins. They
Speaker 1: had a good lineback of the Rams. You know that
Speaker 1: they traded or something away. But brother, that's see me,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't compare arrows because it was no
Speaker 1: Sarah cap and it was no movement. When you normally
Speaker 1: got a player, you have developed him. He became who
Speaker 1: he was and he was a bulldog. Can you imagine
Speaker 1: facing that, uh two times a year? And then sometime
Speaker 1: in the playoff in the first round with was Reggie
Speaker 1: White Eagles and then he didn't do his no favors
Speaker 1: by going over to Green Bay and they had a
Speaker 1: stout defensive line. Yeah, but you guys knew how to
Speaker 1: block us. But see that's you knew how to block us.
Speaker 1: We had no shot against you. Guys. You had Gilbert Brown,
Speaker 1: couldn't you? You killed Gilbert Brown in games because you
Speaker 1: and Gilbert Brown are the same type of players. Belly
Speaker 1: to belly, fight fight up Greek five. Yeah, it is belly,
Speaker 1: big body banging, yeah all day, That's what it was.
Speaker 1: It was two big It was two big bodies on
Speaker 1: top of each other. The whole game brought us. And
Speaker 1: see this is what I try to tell people. Santana
Speaker 1: Dodge and you guys kicked him up the field goal
Speaker 1: to the New York Giants. At the end of Lawrence
Speaker 1: Taylor's career, you had you had him, You had Banks, Yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: you had a young straight hande and what's what's the
Speaker 1: other big defensive tack of they had. I can't think
Speaker 1: his name. They weren't the slouch man. You had a
Speaker 1: nice linebacker, Peppers. These was all guys on one team.
Speaker 1: This is a division talking about. If you didn't have
Speaker 1: a dominant offensive line, you didn't win. You ain't gonna win.
Speaker 1: You had the Red You had the Red Skins win
Speaker 1: one year, You had the Giant two years, three years.
Speaker 1: Then you had the Giants wine, and then you had
Speaker 1: us win back to back that's the NFCS I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: And the low and the low bulldog was the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: We had the Cardinals back then. We had a five
Speaker 1: team division. Bro. And see that's why I can. I
Speaker 1: will marvel at athletic ability to you know, because if
Speaker 1: I would have had the athletic ability and the discipline
Speaker 1: to stay at three fifteen, I could have I played
Speaker 1: with thirteen fourteen years. I could have played fifteen sixteen years.
Speaker 1: And that's what let me ask you this, Till you
Speaker 1: think you'd have been any good at three hundred and
Speaker 1: fifteen pounds, Oh man, probably been Sweeten, sweet Were you
Speaker 1: quick enough? I've been like a catfish in a hot
Speaker 1: grease skiller out of the wilderness. Bro. That sounds damn good, right,
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, you really think that because you
Speaker 1: were such a I mean big empower when I played.
Speaker 1: When I played my best, I was three twenty, I
Speaker 1: mean when they threw me out a right tackle, man,
Speaker 1: And that's when I really realized how great the division was. J. J.
Speaker 1: Jamember Harvey. Yeah, all this hill Hire brother, we had.
Speaker 1: We had thumpers across the board because what happened was
Speaker 1: when the Redskins became with the Hogs and became they were.
Speaker 1: It's like the whole division changed over. The Hecko Parcels
Speaker 1: and his giants. They had they knew every run, knowing
Speaker 1: the man. Phil Simms just passed what was necessary, but
Speaker 1: they had every run, known the man. They beat you
Speaker 1: with defense. And so Jimmy fired that, the the the waits,
Speaker 1: the strength coach, he fired the strength coach, he fired
Speaker 1: half the training staff. He's like, we can't run the
Speaker 1: ball and we can't be physical guys, officsive line. Everybody
Speaker 1: that's concerning that guy to go. So you like the
Speaker 1: plan that they have right now running the football, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do. I do. See people say, oh, they're not
Speaker 1: creative enough. Now they are. They are. And I think
Speaker 1: what they got away from last year when they had
Speaker 1: to get a new left guard was they got away
Speaker 1: from the athletic skills of letting them pull, letting them
Speaker 1: get out of open space, letting them cut and get
Speaker 1: with the traps and stuff like that. I think they
Speaker 1: lost a lot of that. You know, we running the screens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but wait now, last year you said that they needed
Speaker 1: to move folks around. Now you're saying they are creative enough. No,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is you're not listening to me. The
Speaker 1: guys that we have on the office, you know, but
Speaker 1: the guys that we have on the offensive line. When
Speaker 1: we had Runner Leary, uh, Tyron Smith, Uh, the big
Speaker 1: center we got now Frederick President and Free and dub Free.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was that was That was one of the
Speaker 1: best lines I thought they had in a while. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I really believe that because now all we talked
Speaker 1: about every other week. Man, Look look how the presidents
Speaker 1: out on an openfield. Look how the centers out of openfield.
Speaker 1: Look at the screens. Look at this, Look how they
Speaker 1: just robbed you know, ran the power you brother, the
Speaker 1: quickness screen where Tyron turning and running out there getting
Speaker 1: a picking off outside linebacker. We got away from that.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about using the players that you have on
Speaker 1: the field and doing many things. That's what the offensive
Speaker 1: line didn't do a lot of. I felt last year.
Speaker 1: Now I brought us. You watched the man, You and
Speaker 1: I were. You and I were, we watched the games together.
Speaker 1: You didn't want to watch games from Nate night. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was a lot more violent than Nate. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead, and it was just start feeling wherever
Speaker 1: we're at the start the pregame show, then you watch
Speaker 1: the game and the post game show. Right, so it's
Speaker 1: Green Bay game, right, we're going down to score. It's
Speaker 1: first and first and goal of first and ten. And
Speaker 1: brought us out of nowhere. He says a bad word,
Speaker 1: and then he said we shouldn't score right here. We
Speaker 1: should take a knee and run down the clock. And
Speaker 1: I said, no, rock n rod let let him score.
Speaker 1: We need to score, Bros. I'm telling you, we lose
Speaker 1: the game. He needn't say nothing else. First time we
Speaker 1: ran the ball, I think second, now did we score?
Speaker 1: We just lost the game. And what happened? What happened?
Speaker 1: I said with brod us give us to get the
Speaker 1: defense a chance. This is Aaron Rodgers who missed tackle.
Speaker 1: Mister tackle. He stills to this day, for sure. He
Speaker 1: one of the Rams game back to back. Game was
Speaker 1: so funny. Now I'm laughing, But back then, we would
Speaker 1: go to break. We would go to break, I'd say
Speaker 1: something really just just enough to get fired. I would
Speaker 1: say something just to get fired, something colorful, and Nate
Speaker 1: would look at me. Lindsey would throw at the break
Speaker 1: and Nate would look at me. He goes, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be doing this by myself next week. Gone I I
Speaker 1: and I go, it's true, and he's like, I know
Speaker 1: it is, but you're gonna be gone next week. Like, man,
Speaker 1: would he say? We just lost the game? He called
Speaker 1: play play play exactly because he'd read that book before.
Speaker 1: We've been there before, we Aaron Rodgers before. I knew
Speaker 1: the first question. I knew how this I knew how
Speaker 1: this movie was gonna the post game show, Jason Garrett,
Speaker 1: the first question was, why don't you take me? I
Speaker 1: looked at Nate, like, what do you think about Joel's
Speaker 1: second second point? I guess Taco reminds him of the
Speaker 1: whole show on Old School Off We can't do it.
Speaker 1: We got on the show. That's a good segment. What
Speaker 1: do you think about him looking like Tony Tobert? You
Speaker 1: know that's one of his old teams. Yeah, that's one
Speaker 1: of his old teammate. Tried that. That That guy was a
Speaker 1: rare player, roommate for nine years. Physically they look kind
Speaker 1: of built the same, yeah, yeah, Buttober was a thing
Speaker 1: a little more knock needed where he's a bit more.
Speaker 1: But they do look the same linear Ye, The way
Speaker 1: they're up and down. Yeah, but Tony had a and
Speaker 1: you know what this is what Jason is hoping will happen,
Speaker 1: is that Jimmy got rid of so many of the
Speaker 1: older guys because he's tried to bring in and mix
Speaker 1: that older younger thing, but the older guys wanted to dominate.
Speaker 1: To One day, Jimmy said, some of you older guys,
Speaker 1: you better try to help the young guys because I
Speaker 1: already got my eye on him taking your job. And
Speaker 1: so what he did next year was just clean house. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And and and whether it's by accident mistake, just how
Speaker 1: they planned it. He trying to get these young guys
Speaker 1: a chance to identify themselves. And uh, I agree with
Speaker 1: you there. I think the thing about Tony Tilbert to me,
Speaker 1: has got so much more pass rush skill, yeah than
Speaker 1: what he played outside line. He's got a little bit
Speaker 1: of that that ability. You know, if you're really good
Speaker 1: as a pastor, you don't let those offensive linemen get
Speaker 1: their hands on you. And Tony Tilbert was really good
Speaker 1: at not letting people get his hands on that. And
Speaker 1: the way he had, he had long arms. If he
Speaker 1: could get to you first, he could get around you.
Speaker 1: But he gave you very little hitting surface, you know,
Speaker 1: the way he rushed you, and the thing about it,
Speaker 1: we could we could take out time because ahead Jim
Speaker 1: Jeffcot then with Charles Haley came in, you know that
Speaker 1: get they gave us they gave him. I can I
Speaker 1: ask you a question about Charles Haley real quick? Do
Speaker 1: you feel like that that was the difference in your team?
Speaker 1: Was that? Was that the one thing? I mean, you
Speaker 1: were part of Sanders, You were part of your part
Speaker 1: of Sanders being brought in and that was considered a
Speaker 1: huge move. But was was was that the one thing though?
Speaker 1: When Charles came in? Was that the really did you
Speaker 1: kind of look at each other and say, okay, now,
Speaker 1: I mean, did Jimmy explain to you what you guys
Speaker 1: were doing this? Because because you guys used to have
Speaker 1: to go against Charles Hayley. Quite this was a move
Speaker 1: where not only Jimmy but mister Jones was going around
Speaker 1: asking people because remember the big tall guy that played
Speaker 1: for the Houston Arlers. He was outside end. Uh he
Speaker 1: was of African descent. Uh, big long, lean dude. It
Speaker 1: was between those two and uh, Jimmy kind of knew it.
Speaker 1: Brazil No no, no, not that far back, but I'll
Speaker 1: look him up. But it was between those guys, miss
Speaker 1: Jones going hey, man, what do you think about this?
Speaker 1: When he said Charles, Hey, I say who, Yeah, he
Speaker 1: said Jossy. I said, man, that dude, that dude, the beast.
Speaker 1: I remember Charles was so focused during the game, and
Speaker 1: people thought, you know, Charles crazy, But I remember him
Speaker 1: working with this dude while we're playing the game, the
Speaker 1: dude that was next to him. He working with this
Speaker 1: dude like, hey man, you gotta do this guy when
Speaker 1: we're doing this. I mean, he teaching him as that man.
Speaker 1: They got a sack on. I told you I took
Speaker 1: we could beat that fat. I looked at an old
Speaker 1: But when when what Charles allowed us to do was
Speaker 1: now you had to double and Butch Butcher? Uh Butch?
Speaker 1: What's what's butch? Last name? But Davis. He really turned
Speaker 1: up the heat on the other guys. We got a
Speaker 1: guy with here getting double team. Some of you guys
Speaker 1: gotta make plays. Tony Consigius came to life. Uh okay,
Speaker 1: went back to I went back to the Oilers. Then
Speaker 1: there was Ray Rulers was a tackle, Glen Montgomery was
Speaker 1: a tackle, Lamar Latham was ninety four. When did when
Speaker 1: did we get Haley Hay? It was Haley ninety five
Speaker 1: ninety one. I mean no, we got Haley in ninety
Speaker 1: ninety one. No, no, no no, no, he was bold, No, no,
Speaker 1: he was later than that. He was. He was our
Speaker 1: first Super Bowl And then we brought in d Dana
Speaker 1: came out after Haley. Yeah, Danna came out to Haley.
Speaker 1: So it was eighty nine. I don't know, no, no,
Speaker 1: I think he was in San Francisco then he was
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, they was talking about him before they
Speaker 1: brought him in. Here we are arguing about something that's
Speaker 1: a great thing about. Tell you what achnology you looked
Speaker 1: at up. I got it. Let's take our last break.
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Speaker 1: dilemma that brought us was looking up. I was, and
Speaker 1: you know it's funny you say that, because I was
Speaker 1: thinking because we ended up with the player you were
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Speaker 1: what happened was Jimmy called and saying, hey man, we
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Speaker 1: you know, hey man, you want to get rid of me?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, and uh and so Jimmy like, okay,
Speaker 1: hold on. So Jimmy calls some of this guys other
Speaker 1: teams say hey man, what do you think about Hayley
Speaker 1: Say sir, yeah, he's a little off rocker, but he
Speaker 1: all he cares about his winning, right, And then he
Speaker 1: talked to other guys and and all he got back
Speaker 1: consistently was yeah, you're look, he can go off but
Speaker 1: all he cares about his winning right and he and
Speaker 1: he's smart. Jimmy's I can deal with that. And he
Speaker 1: called him back and said, hey, what do y'all need?
Speaker 1: What do y'all want? And next thing, you know, Jerry
Speaker 1: picking him up at the at the airport. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: the rest is history. But that was the move. That
Speaker 1: move was better than the Dion move. But you know what,
Speaker 1: you know what Steve Young told George Seferd, we just
Speaker 1: lost the Super Bowl. Yeah, because I got ready. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And when I when I went to the Carolina Pounds
Speaker 1: for that one year and when I shook see for hand,
Speaker 1: He's like Charles Haley. Man, I was telling you Charles
Speaker 1: was wild, unpredictable. But you you know, when Sunday came,
Speaker 1: he knew his assignments, he knew Leon Let's assignment. He
Speaker 1: made Leon a different player. I'm telling you, man, Leon
Speaker 1: rookie year. You know, he had the gruves and moves
Speaker 1: and I saw that. But I coulda cuss at him,
Speaker 1: I could push him, I could shove him. And all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Charles Haley showed up. And I went
Speaker 1: from trying to handle Leon all that and stay in
Speaker 1: his head to Hey, man, how you want to practice?
Speaker 1: You want to have to listen to day you know,
Speaker 1: brother law Going back to the the Taco thing, is it,
Speaker 1: did I make something up? Or am I seeing him
Speaker 1: with the first team a little bit more than well? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Because yeah, because what you're doing is you have you're
Speaker 1: seeing a little bit more because he's the backup to Lawrence.
Speaker 1: And yesterday was the first time we'd seen Lawrence extensively
Speaker 1: getting some work, and it was good for the defense.
Speaker 1: You look at what the defense was able to do,
Speaker 1: you know, Nate and I had a chance to sit
Speaker 1: down and watch the tape, and the defense look better
Speaker 1: up front when it came to get a little bit
Speaker 1: more pressure. They had some of the younger guys. But
Speaker 1: having having DeMarcus Lawrence on the field is a big,
Speaker 1: big help because the battles that he had with Lyle
Speaker 1: cons I think that makes Lyle Collins better, I really
Speaker 1: really do. And Nate was picking up on things, why
Speaker 1: does that right hand outside, why is the right hand
Speaker 1: outside get their hands inside? You know, And there's things
Speaker 1: that if you don't play good technique against DeMarcus Lawrence,
Speaker 1: he could get away with being lazy against against Taco
Speaker 1: and and he could get away with being lazy against
Speaker 1: coney Eli any of those guys. You can't be lazy
Speaker 1: technique wise against Laurd's because he will embarrass you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what are you seeing that brought up coney Eally hadn't
Speaker 1: heard a lot about him. What are you seeing anything
Speaker 1: from him? Yeah, yeah, exactly No. But he looks he
Speaker 1: looks a little uh. And this is I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: be honest because I always feel like I am. He
Speaker 1: looks slow, he looks sluggish. He you know, when you
Speaker 1: know Nate and I watch Cam Fleming, Cam Fleming has
Speaker 1: been a little bit of a fifty fifty blocker good rep,
Speaker 1: good Rep, bad Rep, bad Rep. Good Rep, good Rep,
Speaker 1: bad Rep, bad Rep. You know, he hasn't been really
Speaker 1: as consistent. And when Cony Eely, I mean I've seen
Speaker 1: rookie rookie defensive lineman ends win against against Cam Fleming.
Speaker 1: And when a veteran guy, a crafty veteran guy got
Speaker 1: three sacks in the Super Bowl. When he's not winning
Speaker 1: against a guy that people are other people are winning
Speaker 1: at him aout a fifty percent clip, it makes you
Speaker 1: a little bit concerned. Rushing down the middle. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean you and I don't know if he's a lock.
Speaker 1: I don't think he is. I don't think he is.
Speaker 1: And then we start talking about Okay Armstrong on that side,
Speaker 1: you start talking about potentially Randy Gregory on that side,
Speaker 1: you're talking about already with UH with the Crawford over there,
Speaker 1: you know, odd Man out. If you asked me to
Speaker 1: cut that position right now, and this is without even
Speaker 1: seeing Randy Gregory, yeah, I would put Randy Gregory third. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because because to me, Cony Ealy is not doing anything. Again.
Speaker 1: This sprime brought us observation week one, but yesterday's practice,
Speaker 1: I need him to do so much more and he
Speaker 1: is not. I mean I thought he would come in here.
Speaker 1: You know they can't. They kept him out of really
Speaker 1: all the OTAs, all the mini camps to say, okay,
Speaker 1: get in shape, we want you to get in shape.
Speaker 1: And he doesn't look like he's playing like he's in shape,
Speaker 1: and that that that's bothersometh Yeah, exactly, No, that's a
Speaker 1: fair point. So this is the beginning of we're now
Speaker 1: into officially, I guess week two. We've been out of
Speaker 1: a week. You're getting ready to next week. We go
Speaker 1: to UH, Sam frand to play on Thursday. What what
Speaker 1: is different in week two than week one or is
Speaker 1: there anything that it's gonna be a difference because you'll
Speaker 1: you'll see more, a little bit more of your veteran
Speaker 1: guys getting preparaphidals for that series. Yeah, and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, that's one that I think
Speaker 1: they'd get a few more reps not a lot, but
Speaker 1: just a few more reps getting ready for that one
Speaker 1: series or two, depending on who you are in the
Speaker 1: quick question? Can I follow up on his? I love
Speaker 1: your answer. I think the sense of urgency. I think
Speaker 1: we saw at the start of we had an off day,
Speaker 1: We had a Sunday practice that got through that, We
Speaker 1: had a Monday off day. Yesterday was the first day back.
Speaker 1: We got three in a row. You get through week one.
Speaker 1: If you're a young player, you're not getting that week back.
Speaker 1: If you had a bad week, or if you're just okay,
Speaker 1: or you're not doing you know, you're just kind of riding,
Speaker 1: you know, riding along. You're really not doing anything to
Speaker 1: make yourself differentiate between you and somebody else. You just
Speaker 1: lost a week, You just lost practices. I think that's
Speaker 1: why we saw yesterday's practice. And you'll probably see it
Speaker 1: this week too with no game, Blue and White scrimmage
Speaker 1: on Sunday, which we hope everybody comes out and sees
Speaker 1: us if you're in the area. But I think you
Speaker 1: see the intensity pick up because you're running out of
Speaker 1: practices out here. When they get back to the Star,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's like, you know what, we're getting ready
Speaker 1: for the Carolina Panthers. Yeah, we don't have time. That
Speaker 1: last preseason game is a formality where they'll say, Okay,
Speaker 1: all the guys that are gonna get cut are gonna
Speaker 1: play today. Now there's some guys who will fight for
Speaker 1: some spots. But if you're a young guy out here
Speaker 1: and you're not making headway and you're not doing anything,
Speaker 1: you just wasted a week. So I think you'll see
Speaker 1: a little bit. Second week will be a little bit
Speaker 1: more intense, and then the third week, when you know
Speaker 1: it's a game, boom, you better be ready to play.
Speaker 1: And you know what, that's more, it's that intense. It's
Speaker 1: more with Sean Lee and Knowles guys it up the
Speaker 1: young guys, like he said, when you lose that week, yeah,
Speaker 1: and coaches starting to form their opinion coaches watching. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they personnel meeting. You went from the first week where
Speaker 1: coaches all over you talking to you. Now he's just correcting.
Speaker 1: You're moving on. Yeah, you're like, yeah, last week he's
Speaker 1: stopped and grabbed look and eye. This week he just
Speaker 1: made a comment and moved. Yeah, because you wasted a week.
Speaker 1: You wasted a week. Yeah, so that's why you see
Speaker 1: the guys get a little little chippy, little edgy as
Speaker 1: you saw a guy yesterday like Jordan Lewis. Jordan Lewis
Speaker 1: is not there. I don't think any danger of not
Speaker 1: making this roster, but you do see you see guys
Speaker 1: he was a starter, and well, who's he fighting. He's
Speaker 1: fighting Lance Lenor, who's trying to fight to make this team.
Speaker 1: Now Lancelnoor's out there running his rear off, trying to
Speaker 1: catch balls, trying to make plays. Whoa Lanceloor is a
Speaker 1: tough guy. He's willing to fight people. You know, you're
Speaker 1: trying as a young guy, you're trying to make an
Speaker 1: impression in these coaches mind to avoid exactly what Nate
Speaker 1: when they stopped talking to you. Yeah, you're screwed. You
Speaker 1: might as well get get ready on September one, you're
Speaker 1: gonna be either on the practice squad or you're gonna
Speaker 1: be playing somewhere else, or you might be working with
Speaker 1: me and nating us all the media. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: so be ready getting my job. I'm like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, whoa is he ain't taking my job? Respect?
Speaker 1: Before we get out of here. We don't have a
Speaker 1: lot of time left. But we had Jeff Heath on
Speaker 1: the show yesterday. Yeah. We asked him who who he'd
Speaker 1: kind of been watching on the defensive side, and he
Speaker 1: brought up thirty two and said, he's got a real
Speaker 1: show lumbaking this team. Lumba. Yeah, don have been a lumba?
Speaker 1: What are you saying? Yeah? And you know what's funny
Speaker 1: is he is when you look at him. Portland State
Speaker 1: is not a powerhouse team that makes you think about football,
Speaker 1: but Portland State over the years has played some pretty
Speaker 1: good football. What's interesting about him is his size, tall
Speaker 1: ranging long and tall and long and not afraid and
Speaker 1: so that's what Richard loves, right these tall Ye give
Speaker 1: me the long And he's been very good as far
Speaker 1: as jam redirect, stay with be in position ball in
Speaker 1: the air. I'm not gonna let you have this. I've
Speaker 1: got long arms. You're a shorter receiver. Cole Beasley, I'm
Speaker 1: knocking this away. You know. That's where he's I think
Speaker 1: that you know, this team has had a great history.
Speaker 1: A matter of fact, he's walking around. I wish we
Speaker 1: can move the camera. He's that's a good looking guy
Speaker 1: physically right there walking along inside when you talk about
Speaker 1: a corner. Now that the thing I worry about, guys
Speaker 1: is he's had a really good first week and now
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're in a situation where, gosh,
Speaker 1: if you could just keep the momentum, keep the momentum,
Speaker 1: because he does have a shot to make this football team.
Speaker 1: Duke Thomas did it last year, you know, and he
Speaker 1: got hurt very late in the campaign. But he's a
Speaker 1: kid that says come out. He's been very competitive. He's
Speaker 1: made players on the football. Let's see if he tackles
Speaker 1: when we get to the Blue White commer. He's gonna
Speaker 1: get plenty of opportunities to do that. And then also
Speaker 1: in these preseason games. One guy that you guys are
Speaker 1: gonna focus on today of practice, who are you watching today? Nate?
Speaker 1: I'm just you know, brother whoever action it. I mean, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: that missed action. I did up was doing a radio
Speaker 1: show and the action was the DVS. Yeah. Sure one
Speaker 1: knows wherever the acts. It ain't no one guy because
Speaker 1: all of them are young. Yeah. All I'm up promising,
Speaker 1: you know so well to action and I'm gonna trying
Speaker 1: to be with action. And what about you, brother, I
Speaker 1: sit there and watch Layton vander esh I really want
Speaker 1: to know. He's starting to get a lot more reps,
Speaker 1: you know, with him his daughter. Yeah, they're they're looking
Speaker 1: at this very well, working that way. I think that
Speaker 1: the more that he gets to practice, the more the
Speaker 1: good the bad, let's see it all. But I'm keeping
Speaker 1: my eye on him. I find when I watch when
Speaker 1: nat are got together watching tape, we'll watch something to
Speaker 1: happen on the outside and the vanderesh in the middle
Speaker 1: of our eyes go from outside to inside to see
Speaker 1: how he's reacting. That's a guy. The next couple of days,
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see how they're really gonna play this
Speaker 1: stuff at that mic linebacker slot. Awesome, Well, we gotta
Speaker 1: get out of here. Appreciate the time, brothers. Always pleasure.
Speaker 1: Thanks Nate, Thanks for all the old stories man. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: good stuff. Thanks for hanging out. We'll be back same
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