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Speaker 1: There's so much going on right now, college Football City

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Speaker 1: you knew what the identity was. Here's the problem. They're

439
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Speaker 1: over under win totals five and a half. And you

440
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 1: may think, oh, Vegas must know they're gonna suck this year. Hey,

441
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 1: they may, or they may not. I'll tell you what

442
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,120
Speaker 1: Vegas knows. I'll tell you what FanDuel knows. I'll tell

443
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Speaker 1: you what we think.

444
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 2: We know.

445
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 1: We think they play the hardest schedule in the Big

446
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 1: Ten this year by far. These folks play at Alabama,

447
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 1: at Michigan, Iowa, Ohio State, at Oregon, Ohio State, Oregon

448
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 1: are back to back, by the way. Then they play Washington,

449
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 1: then they go to Indiana Illinois. Do you do you

450
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 1: know there's stretch there all right? So Michigan, Iowa, Ohio State, Oregon, Washington, Indiana,

451
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 1: Illinois all in a row. All of those teams could

452
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: theoretically compete for the Big Ten. Washington I expect probably

453
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,919
Speaker 1: to be a little bit Tier two in that conversation.

454
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Speaker 1: But and then they go to Minnesota to end the

455
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 1: year that there is no break. They play Miami, Ohio

456
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Speaker 1: and Middle Tennessee to start the year. After that it

457
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,479
Speaker 1: is blow after blow after blow. My point is they

458
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Speaker 1: could be an improved team this year and win four

459
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Speaker 1: or five games, and at that point no one really cares.

460
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 1: So that could be a problem. At Oklahoma, Brent and

461
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: Venables extremely volatile. It looked like they were off to

462
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Speaker 1: the races after that ten win season in year two.

463
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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty three, I'm a believer in Oklahoma this year,

464
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Speaker 1: like clearly anyone who exposed themselves to my post Spring

465
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Speaker 1: top twenty understands. I'm higher on Oklahoma the most Oklahoma

466
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,239
Speaker 1: fans are. But I believe the talent's there, and I

467
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Speaker 1: believe in the quarterback move. I believe in the court move.

468
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 1: I believe in the defense just continuing to be what

469
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: they've been. But do you think about the pressure on

470
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Speaker 1: a college football quarterback. John Matteer's coming in there, and

471
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: think about the pressure man. There are millions of Oklahoma fans,

472
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Speaker 1: there are dozens of people in that building on staff.

473
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Speaker 1: You've got a roster full of players, and yet every

474
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: one of their potential or expectation levels depend on whether

475
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Speaker 1: you perform.

476
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 2: That's why it's the most important position in sports.

477
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Speaker 1: I mean, you're nineteen twenty twenty one years old and

478
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Speaker 1: you're sitting in your dorm room on a random Tuesday

479
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 1: evening and look in the mirror.

480
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 2: All that's on you.

481
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Speaker 1: The pressure of the quarterback position in college football and

482
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 1: the NFL obviously, but even in college football is just amazing.

483
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: I mean, in the NFL, everyone's a pro. In college

484
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: you've got that expectation level being put on a guy that,

485
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 1: for all we know, will never start a down on Sundays,

486
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: and yet he's every bit as per professional in terms

487
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: of expectation level and pressure as anybody playing the Sunday game.

488
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Speaker 1: I would also say Lincoln Riley's kind of in this discussion,

489
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: but I think it's more complicated with him.

490
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,479
Speaker 2: We looked at it.

491
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Speaker 1: I just think the recruiting momentum out there, if they

492
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Speaker 1: maintain it, which is its own segment conversation, I know

493
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Speaker 1: because we've had it. If they maintain that, if they're

494
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Speaker 1: an eight or nine win team this year, they'll be fine.

495
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Speaker 2: He'll be fine.

496
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 1: Mike Gundhy went three and nine last year after so

497
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: many years of winning three and nine, A lot of shakeup,

498
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 1: a lot of inner turmoil.

499
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 2: At least that's what the rumor on the street is.

500
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Speaker 1: Would one more sub five hundred year cost him his job?

501
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

502
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: Would he retire. I don't think Mike Gundy would even want.

503
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Speaker 2: To let himself be fired. Maybe he would.

504
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: Here's a big difference in retirement versus buyout money.

505
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: Sam Pittman just feels like there's not a lot of.

506
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Speaker 1: Juice around the program. Three wins, nine wins, seven wins,

507
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: four wins, seven wins.

508
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: I don't know.

509
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 1: Recruiting's been kind of stagnant.

510
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:10,959
Speaker 2: I just I don't know.

511
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: We'll see Brent Pry at Virginia Tech may belong in

512
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: this category as well. They've gone three wins, seven wins,

513
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: six wins. They get their seventy second in returning production

514
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: this year average recruiting ranking is kind of where.

515
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 2: You would expect it.

516
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, those guys could be on the periphery of

517
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 1: this conversation. But I think Freeze, Norvelle, fickle venables, they

518
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: are smack dab in the middle of that conversation.

519
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Speaker 2: Let me take a sip of Zvia right quick.

520
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 1: I mean, I've got the water, but why hydrate with

521
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: water when you can hydrate with good old fashioned zero

522
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: sugar ZBA cream soda.

523
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Speaker 2: Of course, on a Tuesday night.

524
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Speaker 1: I did the two SIPs there at one time, because

525
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 1: time is of the essence. Tonight on the show We

526
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: Appreciate ZVA. I am looking at a piece of paper.

527
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: I hesitate to even introduce what it says, but I'm

528
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: going to too tall Sam from Well let me say

529
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: that again. Too tall Sam from ann Arbor, Michigan hit us.

530
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: He said, he said, do you just still want to

531
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Speaker 1: defend your golden boy? Greg SANKI after the last couple

532
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: of days. I'm sure, as the SEC homer in the

533
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: college football space, you will how much does he pay you?

534
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: You know, when you try and crack your knuckles on

535
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: air and only one cracks, it's going to be a

536
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 1: bad night.

537
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: He doesn't pay me anything.

538
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: I don't have a personal relationship with Greg SANKEI to

539
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: my knowledge, I've never had a conversation with Greg. I'm

540
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: maybe like in a press conference maybe, and I don't

541
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: I don't recall that. So he's not my boy. I

542
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: would encourage anyone to go find me evidence otherwise. Here's

543
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 1: what's happening this week. They're having their spring meetings down

544
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: in Destin. For some reason, I always say I'm going

545
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: to go to him, and then I proceed to never

546
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 1: go to them, but everybody else in the college football

547
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: media does. So I'm hanging out here in Nashville and

548
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: Greg Sankie's doing his media availabilities down there, and he's

549
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: saying pretty much exactly what the SEC commissioner would be

550
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: expected to say. And what's crazy is he's painted Colin.

551
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: You might as well put devil horns on the picture

552
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: we have of him. Because Greg Sakie has been confirmed

553
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 1: as basically satan this week.

554
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 2: And here's what's wild.

555
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: Tony Pettiti and the Big Ten are pushing every bit

556
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: as hard for this stuff.

557
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 2: Behind the scenes.

558
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: And I don't even think I've heard Tony Pettitti's name

559
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: this week.

560
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: And that's not a knock.

561
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: That is smart business on the part of the Big

562
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: Ten lobby, just as hard behind the scenes. But push

563
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: that mic towards Sanki. Let him talk. So Greg Sanki,

564
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: obviously the commissioner of the SEC. He is talking about

565
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: all this stuff that has people up in arms, and

566
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking to myself, Okay, what's the truth here.

567
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: It's college football City council season. By that, I mean

568
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: only die hard college football fans are actively talking about

569
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: the sport this time of year.

570
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 2: Casuals are tuned out.

571
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: So diehard college football fans are the first people to

572
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: find a problem with anything, which is okay.

573
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 2: I'm one.

574
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: I have a lot of problems with the sport. I

575
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 1: talk about them in this microphone all the time. But

576
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: if you ever watch a city council meeting on local

577
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: Access TV, you know what I mean. There is no

578
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 1: praise for city council at those things. It's only criticism

579
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: and blame. And you could be in a town where

580
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: there's ninety five percent approval rating, but if you only

581
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: watch the city council meeting where the five percent show up,

582
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: you would think that place is terrible. Likewise, if you

583
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: were to look at the collective outrage around Greg Sanki

584
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: or the SEC or college football in general right now,

585
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: you would think it's terrible. It's not terrible. There's just

586
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: some stuff that's wrong. It's not terrible. A lot of

587
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: its preference that would are you some of us more

588
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: than preference.

589
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: But nevertheless, my question about Greg Sanki, my boy, Greg Sanki.

590
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: My golden boy, what do you think his job is?

591
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: That's a pause, intentional. I'm asking the dude who sent

592
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: us that, or anyone else, what do you think.

593
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: His job is? Hold it?

594
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: Hold it, hold it. I'm going to lean forward for

595
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: effect here. I think what you heard me ask is

596
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: what do you want his job to be? I didn't

597
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: ask that, I asked you what do you think his

598
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: job is?

599
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: Because I think his job is.

600
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: To be the commissioner of a conference, the SEC, and uh,

601
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: that's what he's doing now. A lot of you don't

602
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: like what he's doing fair enough. He doesn't hit one

603
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: hundred percent approval with me either. I'm very specific, point

604
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: by point when I have a problem with what he's

605
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: done or what he said and whatnot. But I'm not

606
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: the one airing the grievance now you are. So I

607
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: would ask you this, Sam or anyone el else specifics.

608
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: What is it Greg Sainkie is doing right now that

609
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: you would have him do different? I don't need ad

610
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: hominem attacks.

611
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: I asked this earlier today.

612
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: Some dude said he needs to stop whinding as much,

613
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: even throughout the B word. Can you imagine? So I

614
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: don't need that. That's not constructive. I need you to

615
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: give me specifics. What is he doing that you would

616
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: have him do different? Again, specifics. I tried this on

617
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: some of my buddies earlier today, because, believe it or not,

618
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: even in the group text on the eye Josh, Greg

619
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Speaker 1: Sinki gets trashed, and so I asked.

620
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: Well, what would you have him do?

621
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: And someone said, well, first off, I wish he wasn't

622
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: as greedy.

623
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: As he is.

624
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: I said, interesting, go on, I'm anti greed. Go on,

625
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: let me hear, let me hear what you have to

626
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: say is that they should have never gone and poached

627
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: Ou in Texas. I also wish the SEC would not

628
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: have grabbed Ou in Texas. But see, that's the utopian

629
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: world which I asked you earlier in the show to

630
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: set over here. Let's just say you're Greg Sanki five

631
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: years ago. I hope you all heard the knock on

632
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: the door there. That's oh you in Texas. So two knocks,

633
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: Oh you in Texas are at the door. You're Greg Sanki.

634
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 1: You answer, they say, we're leaving, We're leaving the Big twelve.

635
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: We want to come to your party. You're telling me

636
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: that you would have him say sorry, we're not open,

637
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: knowing full well their next call is the Big ten. Like,

638
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: it's not whether they're gonna leave, it's where are they

639
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: gonna land? And by the way, you answer to university presidents,

640
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: not just the mirror. So you're telling me you would

641
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: have had him slam the door in their face. I'm

642
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: telling you he would have been on the street the

643
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: next day looking for a new job.

644
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: So while there is the idealistic.

645
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: World where the realignment never happens, I'm just trying to

646
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: let you know there is no where oh you in Texas,

647
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: knock on your door, you say no, and you're still

648
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,479
Speaker 1: the commissioner of your conference. So if there was an

649
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: overall commissioner, an overall ZAR that oversaw such things, it

650
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't have happened, period.

651
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: But we don't have that.

652
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: So Greg Sankie like, you're presenting a scenario that's not realistic.

653
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: So then the next thing is, well.

654
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: He shouldn't be he shouldn't be beating the drum for

655
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: all of this AQ nonsense. He shouldn't be mandating that

656
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: they get four guaranteed spots.

657
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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing about that.

658
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: We can disagree or agree on that, but at the

659
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Speaker 1: very least I get your point on that.

660
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: I fully respect that.

661
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: But I would also say this, this is where the

662
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: big multimillion dollar.

663
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: Follow up question comes in. Who do you think he

664
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: answers to himself?

665
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: Tony Petiti's the same way in the big ten, Sankie

666
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: is the same way. This is the great wool that

667
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: is collectively pulled over the eyes of most people who

668
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: cover this sport, much less the people who are.

669
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: Fans of this sport.

670
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: The NFL's done it a long time with Roger Goodell

671
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: College University presidents have done it a long time with

672
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: their commissioners. Greg Saki doesn't wake up in the morning,

673
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: look at his personal to do list and say, let's

674
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: see what I'm gonna do today. Greg Saki answers to

675
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: what is it, fourteen or sixteen whatever university presidents that

676
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: are his bosses in the SEC. You think he just

677
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: looked around and said, I think I'm gonna go grab

678
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: more money for the sake of grabbing more money.

679
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna welcome O you in.

680
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: Texas in I'll just let the league presidents know they're

681
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: coming later. No, that's quite the opposite. That works quite

682
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: the other way. So again they meet with him. His

683
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: bosses look at him. What do you think they say.

684
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: Do you think they tell him go look out for

685
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: the greater good of college football. These people care even

686
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: less about the greater good of college football.

687
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: Then you and I do.

688
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: And you and I are looking at it with differences

689
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: of opinions about what's best.

690
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: For college football.

691
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: But if you think these commissioners aren't looking at for

692
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: the best interest, imagine what the random like president of

693
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Speaker 1: Florida or president of LSU or.

694
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: A and M is telling him.

695
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: Do you think they give a crap about the best

696
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: interest of college football. They care about their best interest

697
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: then the best interest of the league in that order,

698
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: and he has given marching orders to that tune. That's

699
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: Greg SANKI that's his job. I think he's really smart.

700
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: I think he's really cerebral. But I think a lot

701
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: of what you've seen now is no different than watching

702
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell. Do you think Roger Goodell moves freely, like

703
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: with just full autonomy to do whatever he wants to

704
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: with the NFL? Does anybody think that's how that works? No,

705
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: he gets paid a lot of money to take all

706
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: the arrows to be the shield.

707
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 2: For the shield, if you will.

708
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: On Sundays, Greg Sankie's doing the same thing. Because you

709
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: know what I haven't heard this week. I've heard a

710
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: million and one people slam Greg sink Ye. I have

711
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: not heard a single mention of the president of the

712
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: University of Tennessee, the president of Auburn University, or the

713
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: University of Alabama. And that's exactly the way they want it.

714
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: That's your job.

715
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: If you're the conference commissioner of any league, that's your job. Now.

716
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: Having said that, that guy right there is the most powerful.

717
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: He is the most powerful of them all, and I

718
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: think a lot of them look to him for answers,

719
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: and I think his voice carries a metric ton of weight.

720
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: But I also think that if you were to this

721
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: is not gonna happen. So I can't prove a counterfactual.

722
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: But if I could ever get people, including myself, in

723
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: a room with him or Petity, any of these guys

724
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: and air my own personal beefs, my instinct is there's

725
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: a lot I don't know. My instinct is he would

726
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: probably listen and then he would have a rebuttal for me,

727
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: and there would be two or three angles. I never

728
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: considered that would probably with most of my grievances, make

729
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: me go, oh okay, now that's my instinct. I could

730
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: be dead wrong. He is my golden boy after all.

731
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 1: You know, close personal friend of mine, Greg Sankie.

732
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: The check that we cash.

733
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: From the SEC, you would not believe the amount of zeros.

734
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: In fact, it's only zeros this year. The check they

735
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: sent us was only it was just zero. That's what

736
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: they sent us this year. But you know that's a

737
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: year to your thing. Who knows quick trip dots the

738
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: landscape of the sec but beyond they have no favoritism.

739
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: They're loyal to you. You, in many cases, are their

740
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 1: golden boy. Now, you may just need a quick top

741
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 1: off of the fuel tank and that's okay. They're here

742
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: for you. But you also may be a little hungry,

743
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: at which case they're also here for you. You may be

744
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: a little drowsy, in which case they're also here for you.

745
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: Coldbrew on tap, pizza, all the snacky snacks in the world,

746
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: and friendly customer service. I don't mention that enough. The

747
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: Quick Trip folks are on point. And the added benefit,

748
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: since we're so synonymous with the brand, is a lot

749
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: of them recognize us when we walk in.

750
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: Now, do we use that cloud to get free product?

751
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: Yes, we do, but I'm not allowed to talk about

752
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: that on air because I don't think that you could do.

753
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 2: The same per se.

754
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: But I will tell you this, even if you have

755
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: to pay for it, it's worth it. Just go check

756
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: it out Quick Trip. Tell them we sent you. It

757
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: may or may not get you anything, but tell them

758
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: we sent you.

759
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: Let's move on.

760
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: We still got a lot to get to. Let me

761
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: take a simple water. It's the kind of show I

762
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: know it's going to get criticism. I know our show

763
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: tonight's going to get clipped out of context. All I'm

764
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: asking is for logic based rebuttals. Many of you have

765
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: them all the time. Okay, it is true that reasonable

766
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: minds can disagree, but a lot of it is going

767
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: to be miscontextualized or just flat out stuff I didn't say,

768
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: and that just gets deleted. Not by me, but I

769
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: have Jesse just combed the comments. No, it's me, I

770
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: promise you it's me. We had a question about the

771
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: Big Ten shocker right. I don't want to say the

772
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: guy's name, but he's from Maryland. Could this be the

773
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,439
Speaker 1: strongest the second tier of the Big Ten has been

774
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: in a while? It could be. It could be this

775
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 1: has been a glaring weakness for the Big Ten. Ohio

776
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: State has been a mainstay Michigan for the past several years.

777
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: They've been there. Oregon is now in the Big Ten,

778
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: so Oregon like from this point forward, they're going.

779
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 2: To be a main staate. They won the conference last year.

780
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: I would say for our purposes here, Penn State has

781
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: been sort of part of that Tier one. They haven't

782
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 1: won the league, but they've been a dependable like ten

783
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: win caliber brand every year, and they're the ones that

784
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: are going to push the big boys at the very least,

785
00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: so we've had them. Outside of that, there has not

786
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: been a solid tier two that's what the SEC's had

787
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 1: that the Big Ten hasn't had. Like the SEC, they'll

788
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: go like four or five deep with solid second tier

789
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: teams like a South Carolina any given year. Alabama was

790
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: Tier two in the SEC last year. Just to like

791
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: give you a flavor. So I'm telling you who it

792
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: should be. Wisconsin should perennially be tier two. Iowa has been,

793
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: so they've kind of held up their end of the deal.

794
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: Michigan State should absolutely, just judging based off history, be

795
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: perennially in tier two. Wisconsin and Michigan State have dropped

796
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: the ball for the Big Ten for a few years now.

797
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: But think about this year. What could happen.

798
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: Iowa, I would assume we'll be right back there in

799
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: that tier two range. But Illinois, Illinois, absolutely there. Indiana

800
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: if last year's in the indication, they're right back in

801
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: that conversation. Then you start talking about Nebraska, You're three

802
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: under Matt rule, Yes, yes, they could absolutely fit. Thatory, Washington.

803
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: I'm kind of a little bit higher on as a

804
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: sleeper team. In year two hundred, Jet Fish, they could

805
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: be in there. USC under Lincoln could absolutely be in there.

806
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: So you've got a lot of tests. Obviously, all of

807
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: these are conference games, like Ohio State goes to Washington,

808
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: Ohio State goes to Illinois. USC plays at Illinois. Illinois's

809
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: got huge opportunity early portion of the season. Penn State

810
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 1: plays at Iowa, they play Indye, they play Nebraska, Michigan

811
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: goes to Nebraska and to USC they play Washington. So

812
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: what we got to have is you've got to have

813
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: a situation where in November you don't look at the

814
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: Big Ten and just say, look at the tip of

815
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: that iceberg. Man, that is impressive, but there's not really

816
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: anything under the surface. You need to be looking at

817
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: the tip of the iceberg and saying, yeah, but just

818
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 1: beneath the surface you ought to see it's that's conference depth.

819
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: That's the way it should be there, and I think

820
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: it's lacked over the past few years, but they've made

821
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: the coaching moves. The thing about the Big Ten is

822
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: there was an understanding around the league at least. This

823
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: is my theory, is that when the bigger TV money

824
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: started getting pumped into the league. There was an unspoken

825
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: understanding from the tier two, tier three type programs, we

826
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: got to get our act together. Like at Wisconsin they

827
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: looked around and said what Paul christ is doing is

828
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: not enough.

829
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 2: We need a superstar coach. They went and got Luke Fickle.

830
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: It has not paid off immediately, but it wasn't because

831
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: they weren't aggressive. Nebraska, Ditto with Matt Ruhle Michigan State,

832
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 1: Diddo with Jonathan Smith. So Signetti at Indiana. I don't

833
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: think immediately people expected it, but boom, he delivered it anyway,

834
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: So they've gotten the depth of quality and coaching that

835
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: programs just have to mirror that.

836
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 2: The teams this year just have to mirror that.

837
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: And I think there's a good chance that, Yeah, the

838
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: answer to the question ends up being, yes, they're watching

839
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: us in Big ten country Stockbridge.

840
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: Michigan, Erie, Pennsylvania.

841
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure Sharpsburg, Georgia is Big ten country,

842
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: but I'm sure there's some transplants down there. Sure they

843
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: are Big tensa nationwide conference after all.

844
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: Let's move along. Hello to the live chat.

845
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: By the way, help the audience here on a Tuesday

846
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: night in May.

847
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 2: Very healthy audience. Okay, now this is gonna be a

848
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 2: complicated segment.

849
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: I don't know that I've ever done one like this,

850
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: and I wasn't planning on it, but too many of

851
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: you asked about it. So normally, when you guys are asking,

852
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: like in the dozens, that means thousands are wanting it.

853
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: So we're gonna do this, and I'll just try not

854
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: to be scatterbrained. Tyler up in Tacoma, Washington, he said,

855
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: I know your heart lies with the BCS. Hand to heart,

856
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: yes it does. But out of all the formats that

857
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: have been discussed, which one is the best for the

858
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: sport and everyone involved? He's talking about the playoff formats.

859
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: So what Tyler said is true if you're new to

860
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: the show, I don't even need a playoff. My personal

861
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: preference is I want the regular season and I want

862
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: Bowl season, and I don't even care if it's just

863
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: the AP one versus two.

864
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 2: Like they did way back in the day.

865
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind if it were the BCS all over again,

866
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: but obviously that's not gonna happen. So out of all

867
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Speaker 1: the formats I've seen floating around, I do have a favorite.

868
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like it's the one they're gonna go with.

869
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: But out of all the proposed models, I've just been

870
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: asking myself selfishly, how do I get what I want?

871
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 2: So what I want is.

872
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: Just maximum urgency on every regular season game, and I

873
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,479
Speaker 1: want conference games to have maximum meaning, and I want

874
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: the conference races to have maximum meaning. So I like

875
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: the fourteen team model, but I like it with the

876
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: AQ format, baked him. Now, I've always been anti automatic

877
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: qualifier when the fields were smaller, like when they were

878
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: talking about going to six or they were talking about

879
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: I thought they were talking about going to eight. In reality,

880
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: they just hoodwinked us all. But when they were talking

881
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: about that, I didn't want any automatic qualifiers because those

882
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 1: fields are still small enough to where every regular season

883
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: game matters, because whether it's four or six, Like, you

884
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: lose a game, you could be out. You lose two games,

885
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: you probably are out. And I looked at it and

886
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: I said, okay, well, at that point, I don't want

887
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: any automatic qualifiers. I just want the best six or

888
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: the best eight, and I almost done with it. But

889
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: when you're talking about fourteen or sixteen, I'm talking about

890
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: fourteen here, but if they go to sixteen, I feel

891
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 1: the same way. There's no way to crystallize the urgency

892
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: of the regular season. If you're just taking the top

893
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: fourteen or sixteen. You were talking about knowing ahead of time,

894
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: you can lose a quarter of your games. If you're

895
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: in the SEC or the Big Ten especially, you can

896
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 1: lose a quarter of your games and make the thing.

897
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: So what I want is, I want to remove the

898
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: committee as much as possible. I want to remove as

899
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: much guarantee as possible. Now you're listening to that, and

900
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: you're saying, Josh, that's very hypocritical because you're advocating for

901
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 1: the model where the conference is know how many teams

902
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: they're going.

903
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: To get in.

904
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: That's true, but there's a way to eliminate the guarantees

905
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: team specific while also maintaining that the Big Ten knows

906
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: they're going to get four in. So here's how that

907
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 1: model sounds. That model would be the four four two

908
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: two one one. Someone get the acronym for that. I

909
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: was on with Chris Hassel on CBSHQ earlier today and

910
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: we made an acronym for that. It is every bit

911
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 1: as ridiculous as it sounds, but for real, follow me here.

912
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: Fourteen teams with the AQ format. So that means the

913
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: SEC gets four, the Big ten gets four, the ACC

914
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: gets two, the Big twelve gets two, the G five

915
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: gets one, and then there's a spot where either Notre

916
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: Dame takes it or it's one at large. Because there's

917
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: one thing that separates me from I think a lot

918
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: of folks who prefer the sixteen team model. I don't

919
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: really like there being a bunch of at large spots

920
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: because if we're going with this big a field, I

921
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: absolutely want that first Saturday in December to be reimagined.

922
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: And I like the idea of those conference play in

923
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: sort of mini brackets, but I want those to be

924
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: real play in games. I don't want you to be

925
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: able to play a three versus six game in the

926
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: Big ten. But know all the while, even if we

927
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: lose this game, we weren't good enough playing our conference

928
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: title game. But even if we lose this game, we'll

929
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: just fall to one of the at large spots. I

930
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: want them to be real play in games. So I

931
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: am in favor of the fourteen team over the sixteen

932
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: team for that very reason. This is how you eliminate

933
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: the committee as well, because there are no really at

934
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: large spots. Like all the committee's doing is determining what

935
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: the G five spot and then they would see the

936
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: thing after conference championship weekend. But like the committee has

937
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: minimum involvement, minimum involvement here, that first Saturday in December

938
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: is the key. And I know that there are a

939
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: lot of people watching right now who are repulsed at

940
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: the idea of the AQ structure. But I'm telling you, guys,

941
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: the reasons that your repulse by it are the reasons

942
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: I used to be but have flipped. This is actually

943
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: how you crystallize value in the regular season. Follow me

944
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: here that first Saturday in December. To be clear, what

945
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: they're talking about and what I would support is the

946
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: SEC and the Big Ten. You're not just taking the

947
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: top four teams. What you're doing is you're taking their

948
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: top two teams and they go to Atlanta, and they

949
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: go to Indianapolis and they play their conference championship game.

950
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 1: The only guarantees for the SEC going into that weekend

951
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: is that their top two teams are going to make

952
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: the playoff, one of them will win their conference championship game,

953
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: and they'll probably go get one of the two buys,

954
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: but those one and two's, those two teams are gonna go.

955
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: That's the reward you get from making your conference championship game.

956
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: And you'll get an added reward of probably a first

957
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 1: round by if you win.

958
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: That conference championship game. But outside of that, I want

959
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: no guarantees.

960
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: So you got that conference championship game, SEC and Big ten,

961
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: and then three versus six and four versus five. I

962
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: would love those games to be on campuses, on CAMPI

963
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: and so I would love six to go play at three,

964
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: and I would love five to go play at four.

965
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 2: And you know what, if you lose.

966
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: A home playoff game and you fall out of the playoff,

967
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: then you fall out of the playoff. But for all

968
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: the talk about it, it's so sideways and backwards to

969
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: guarantee the SEC and the Big ten spots. It's true

970
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: that it's valid to feel that way, but there's only

971
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: two guarantees in this format. The rest of it is

972
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: folks playing themselves into a spot. So I prefer that.

973
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: And then in the ACC and the Big twelve, this

974
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,479
Speaker 1: is where I have to bend because it probably does

975
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: a way with the idea of the ACC Championship Game

976
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: and the Big Twelve Championship Game. There is no perfect

977
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: format out there, but in the ACC I would prefer

978
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: to do their two play in games to decide their

979
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: two spots four versus one at number one's home stadium,

980
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: three versus two at number two's home stadium.

981
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: Same thing in the Big Twelve.

982
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: If the ACC Championship Game means that much to you,

983
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: if the Big Twelve Championship Game means that much to you,

984
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: I would just say this format's probably not for you.

985
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 2: Candidly. I don't ever remember.

986
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: A huge, huge, huge deal being made about those games,

987
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: and if you know you've got two guaranteed spots at

988
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: the table, I think this is a more preferable way

989
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: to do it. Just personal preference, but that's where I am.

990
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: The G five pretty straightforward. The highest ranked G five

991
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: team gets the G five spot. If Notre Dame's in

992
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: the top fourteen, they take the other spot. If Notre

993
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: Dame's not in the top fourteen, that is the only

994
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: at large spot. I've gotten this thing. If Notre Dame

995
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: had a bad year, there is one at large spot

996
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: because they didn't take the other one to where Okay,

997
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: one of the Big Ten teams is probably going to

998
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: get in. One of the SEC teams are probably going

999
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: to get in. But that is a very very narrow

1000
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: window that most years won't even be available. So the

1001
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: playoff arrives at that point. And just I want you

1002
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: to I don't want to skip past this that Saturday,

1003
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: that first Saturday in December. I want you to think

1004
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: about what your mentality has been leading up to this,

1005
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: why I prefer this, whereas I never would have preferred

1006
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: the automatic qualifier structure before. Nobody has focused on committee rankings.

1007
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: If you're an Ole Miss fan, you have not been

1008
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: worried one second about where the committee has you ranked.

1009
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: The only thing you've been focused on is what are

1010
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: the league standings. We play Tennessee this week. We got

1011
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: to make sure we beat Tennessee so that we remain

1012
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: one of the top six teams in this conference, because

1013
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: that's how we get into that.

1014
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: Play in week the first Saturday in December.

1015
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: Ditto for Iowa fans or Michigan fans in the Big Ten,

1016
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what the committee thinks about you, because you're

1017
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: going to determine if you play your way in, and

1018
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: once you play your way in, where you fall like,

1019
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: that's how that works. But I also think it takes

1020
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 1: the maximum focus possible and places it on conference games,

1021
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 1: conference races, and regular season games because also remember this,

1022
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 1: there is no guarantee. The only guarantee, even for SEC

1023
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: and Big Ten teams in this format to make the

1024
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: playoff is being in the top two. Even the number

1025
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: three team knows, hey, we're going to get a home

1026
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: game the first Saturday in December. But if we lose

1027
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: that thing, we're out. We don't even make the playoff,

1028
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: We're out. That's the maximum amount of urgency I could

1029
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: possibly put on a fourteen team playoff format that deep

1030
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,720
Speaker 1: in November in the Power two conferences. It's the most

1031
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: you could possibly hope for. Whereas if you just take

1032
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: the top fourteen or the top sixteen, I know the

1033
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: lodge behind that. I'm telling you it totally and completely

1034
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: erodes and saturates the value of those regular season games

1035
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: in the urgency of those regular season games. And what

1036
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:15,479
Speaker 1: it also does is it brings that ratchet committee back

1037
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: into the equation and Tuesday nights in the fall become

1038
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: the focal point where are twelve ads who you know

1039
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: good and well, don't watch this sport like you and

1040
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: I do.

1041
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 2: Gonna rank my team.

1042
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: I'm so tired of that, so tired of it, and

1043
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: so I would love to do away with that. So

1044
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 1: when the playoff arrives, the committee does not really rank

1045
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 1: the teams anymore. They just they're not selecting them. They're

1046
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 1: just kind of placing them. They would seed the thing.

1047
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 1: That's really all we would need them for. They're gonna

1048
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: tell us which G five team's coming, and then after

1049
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: the dust settles on that first Saturday, they're gonna seed

1050
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: the playoff and the number one and number two teams

1051
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: are gonna get buys, which again crystallizes the importance of

1052
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: winning your conference. Probably gonna be the SEC in the

1053
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,240
Speaker 1: Big Ten champ it's not guaranteed, though. If Clemson goes

1054
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: and runs through the ACC, it's very likely they would

1055
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: be one of the top two seeds. So it's not

1056
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: like those spots are locked in for the SEC and

1057
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: the Big Ten, although I would guess more than likely

1058
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 1: it would be those two. But you'd have six games

1059
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: in that first round. I mean, I think you can

1060
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: pretty well envision how that bracket would play out. But

1061
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: one thing some of you sent me a clip from

1062
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: Klatt the other day that he said, and I've agreed

1063
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 1: with this. Klatt said it the other day, so I'll

1064
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 1: agree with.

1065
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 2: It as well.

1066
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: He is of the opinion as am I that once

1067
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: you get past that first round, we ought to receive

1068
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: the whole thing, so that if you are the true

1069
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: number one overall seed or even the number two overall

1070
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: seed in this playoff, not only have you been rewarded

1071
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: with a first round by because you won your conference,

1072
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: but you also know you're not locked in to a

1073
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: static bracket. They're going to play the first round games.

1074
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: And then if you're the number one seed, not only

1075
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: did you not have to play that first week, but

1076
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: you're guaranteed to play the lowest remaining seed in the

1077
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: second round, and you should get them on your home campus,

1078
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 1: because the first two rounds, not just the first round,

1079
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: should be on home campuses.

1080
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 2: That's how I would prefer for that to work.

1081
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: The ACC and the big twelve flaw, I think one

1082
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: of the biggest areas of pushback I'm going to get

1083
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: on this, aside from the people who just think it

1084
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: should be no automatic qualifiers, which is its own thing,

1085
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:26,439
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are going to push

1086
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: back and say, so, you want to keep the SEC

1087
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: in the Big ten title game, but you're okay doing

1088
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 1: away with the ACC and the Big twelve title game.

1089
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 2: I'm not okay with any of it.

1090
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: You asked me what I thought the best format was

1091
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: out of the possible available formats, and I think this

1092
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 1: is it. There is no plan that's void of some

1093
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: collateral damage. But if I have to trade the ACC

1094
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: Championship Game and the Big Twelve Championship Game still getting

1095
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: two teams from those conferences. But if I have to

1096
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: trade that in exchange for the urgency that I know

1097
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: this place is on the reg season, then you get

1098
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: a yes vote from me on that. Now, I do

1099
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: know that at the SEC spring meetings, the coaches today

1100
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: were presented with a model that was five automatic qualifiers

1101
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: and then eleven at larges. You will be not so

1102
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: surprised to learn that most of the SEC coaches were

1103
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: in favor of that. Well, of course they are. Of

1104
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: course they are because they then know they can probably

1105
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: lose three games per season and make it in I mean,

1106
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: Kaitlin de Born knows last year's team makes it in

1107
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: the playoff. If you're going five aqs and eleven at

1108
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 1: large spots. Of course they do. I don't think that's

1109
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: best for the game. That's me personally, So if we

1110
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: were doing a six team field or an eighteen field,

1111
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want any automatic qualifiers. But if we're going

1112
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: fourteen or sixteen deep, you do understand you will have

1113
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: a four lost team that makes that playoff. If you

1114
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: just go top sixteen, that will eventually happen. So I

1115
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: am and several three lost teams. So in principle, I

1116
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: already hate all playoff expansion, but out of the available

1117
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: remaining formats that they're seriously looking at, I like fourteen

1118
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 1: with automatic qualifier, the best with the entire reimagined first

1119
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 1: Saturday in December. Okay, crushed me in the comments. Now

1120
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: it's time to get a little nostalgic. It's sad, it's

1121
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: kind of happy. It's kind of sad, but I think

1122
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: it's important. So we had a question, Well, I had

1123
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: several questions the other day, and then I said something

1124
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: about it and it made it to Twitter, mainly because

1125
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 1: I posted it, but man, I got so much.

1126
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 2: Feedback on this. So I was scrolling.

1127
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: This hurts Steven speak about I'm looking around I saw

1128
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: a graphic little chalkboard there. It says has gradually disappeared

1129
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: over the last ten years without people really noticing. And

1130
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: I said National Signing Day. Oh, and then the emotions

1131
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,720
Speaker 1: just poured out in the replies. Do you think about

1132
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: what they took from us? Every now and then I

1133
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: think about this. I'll just be driving down the road

1134
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: like Hillsboro Pike or you know, down in Brentwood somewhere

1135
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: like that, and I think, because this is how my

1136
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: mind works. By the first Wednesday in February used to

1137
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: be my Christmas. There's Isaiah Crowell, that Gabe Wright sitting

1138
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: nuts to him at Carver High School down there in Columbus.

1139
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: I just I know many of you were plenty old

1140
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: enough to remember, because National Signing Day has not disappeared

1141
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: that long ago, like it's a fairly recent thing. National

1142
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: Signing Day a decade ago was Christmas. Many of us

1143
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: looked more forward to it than Christmas. Once you get

1144
00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: to a certain age, you kind of know what you're

1145
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: getting for Christmas. You have no clue what you were

1146
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: getting on National Signing Day.

1147
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 2: But I kid you not.

1148
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: I would start if I was in school, I would

1149
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: start planning how I was going to fake sickness to

1150
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: get out of school, and then when I got out

1151
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: into the real world and I got a job, I

1152
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: perfected the soft cough, as we call it.

1153
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,959
Speaker 2: When you came back from lunch.

1154
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: That Tuesday, you started soft coughing around the office and

1155
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: you were laying the groundwork to be outsick the next day.

1156
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: Because there's no way I'm going to work on National

1157
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: Signing Day. I'll be there every other day. I'll work overtime,

1158
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: I'll work holidays. You will not see me. I will

1159
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: be a ghost on National Signing Day. It was everything

1160
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:42,479
Speaker 1: to college football that the NFL Draft is to the NFL, and.

1161
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 2: It just disappeared.

1162
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: It still exists, of course, guys still sign on a day,

1163
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: but a couple of things happened. The first thing that

1164
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: happened was the calendar shifted. You remember when you heard

1165
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: that we were going to have an early signing day.

1166
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: I think Georgia and Kirby just killed because remember the

1167
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: first year, everyone was kind of wondering, well, how many

1168
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: people are going to sign in December and how many

1169
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: people are going to wait until February, And Kirby said, no,

1170
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: We're going to go get our whole class in December.

1171
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: I think they signed the number one class in the

1172
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: country that year, and then everyone the following year.

1173
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 2: Signed in December.

1174
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: So the thing about December is it's in this weird

1175
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: time where you're after the Army Navy game, You're the

1176
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: week before Christmas, and the playoffs are coming up and

1177
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: bowl seasons about to start, and it doesn't have that

1178
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,479
Speaker 1: standalone feel to it. And then not too long after

1179
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: that you realized, well, that's kind of irrelevant because here

1180
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: comes unrestricted movement in the portal attached to NIL. So

1181
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: not only are we going to have unrestricted free agency,

1182
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: but we're going to do it every year. And rational

1183
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: people looked around and said, well, wait, if commitments don't

1184
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: actually mean anything, if vast portions of the roster are

1185
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: going to overturn every year, why should I care what

1186
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: a guy does on National Signing Day. I felt the

1187
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: same way. I hate I hate it, man, I really

1188
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: hate it because I loved recruiting. Man.

1189
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 2: I followed recruiting religiously.

1190
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,479
Speaker 1: I could not tell you anything about recruiting these past

1191
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: few years. We talked about it, what would you say, Jesse,

1192
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: like five times these past few years. I just don't

1193
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: see the value in it, and I think to really underdiscussed,

1194
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: underreported part of what has changed for the worst about

1195
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: the sport. Really, at the end of the day, it's

1196
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: about connective tissue. I am a huge college football fan.

1197
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: There's not just one thing that attracts me to the sport.

1198
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: There are several layers. But one of the critical connective

1199
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: tissue layers that have connected fans to college football for

1200
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 1: a long time, aside from the games themselves, has been

1201
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: following recruiting. It's no different than the NFL. You watch

1202
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: the games on Sunday. Nothing could ever replace that, but

1203
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: Mott Draft season is a huge thing. The NFL Draft

1204
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: is a massive part of the connective tissue of NFL fans.

1205
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: To product, imagine the draft just kind of not disappearing,

1206
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: but completely waning in importance, no one taking it really

1207
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: seriously anymore.

1208
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 2: The NFL will.

1209
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: Still exist, a lot of people would still watch it,

1210
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: the connectivity wouldn't be there. Now. Imagine if the NFL

1211
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: also did away with contracts and everyone just moved around

1212
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: whenever they wanted to.

1213
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 2: People would still watch. Would they be as connected, No,

1214
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 2: they would not.

1215
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 1: That in a microcosm is what's happened with college football recently.

1216
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 1: You've you had fifteen years ago. This is not that

1217
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: long ago. Fifteen years ago, ten years ago, whatever, when

1218
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: recruiting was on fire, you really started following the kids

1219
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: their junior years in high school.

1220
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 2: And I mean, I'm talking.

1221
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: About a lot of people did this, Like this was

1222
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 1: the norm for hardcore recruiting fans.

1223
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 2: Most people were.

1224
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: If they were hardcore college football fans, you got a

1225
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 1: good sense of them in junior high school year, and

1226
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 1: then by their senior year, you know, like, Okay, Oklahoma's

1227
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: got a shot at this guy, Florida's battling USC for

1228
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 1: that guy, like.

1229
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 2: Bama, Georgia, Tennessee for this guy.

1230
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: And not only are you following your team, but you're

1231
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: aware of the whole landscape. Then they commit, and statistically

1232
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: it's a high likelihood they're going to be there as

1233
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: freshmen and sophomores and juniors and seniors. And by the

1234
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: time those guys are seniors and they are like the

1235
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: nucleus of your team, You've known them over half a decade.

1236
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: You've got six plus years of emotional attachment vested in

1237
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: that player wearing that uniform that you've got a lifetime's

1238
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: worth of emotional attachment invested in and it meant something.

1239
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 2: Man, it meant a lot.

1240
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: And it doesn't mean that when you have the absence

1241
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: of that that everyone leaves. But it does mean what

1242
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: you used to be a rock solid connection.

1243
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 2: It just loosens a little bit.

1244
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: That's only one aspect that is eroded at the connective

1245
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: tissue between some fans and the way they view the sport.

1246
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 1: Now that's the bad news. The good news is it

1247
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 1: is very, very rectifiable, and I think we're not too

1248
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: far away from that. Now. They could screw this up,

1249
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: but if you think about what revenue sharing is about

1250
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: to do, money's never leaving the sport.

1251
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what could be about to happen.

1252
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: You could be if revenue sharing is handled the right

1253
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: way and rules are able to be enforced, you could

1254
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 1: be looking at the dawning of a new era of

1255
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: roster retention rates returning to their previous levels, and therefore

1256
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: you could be looking at a return to somewhat normalcy.

1257
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 1: In what a commitment means. I was always of the

1258
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 1: belief that we should never have used the word commitment,

1259
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: But for college football purposes, let's use the word commitment.

1260
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: If you do the revenue sharing era the right way,

1261
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: Clemson could be going after a guy that Texas wants,

1262
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 1: that Florida wants, that Ohio State wants. But if revenue

1263
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 1: sharing is set up the right way, no one is

1264
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: vastly outbidding anyone else for that player.

1265
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 2: So what does that mean? Though?

1266
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: It means if you're offering him two seventy as a

1267
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 1: freshman and I'm offering him two forty five as a freshman,

1268
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 1: but I have the better connection with the kid, and

1269
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 1: we form the better relationships, and we sell him on

1270
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: fit and culture better, thirty five thousand dollars forty thousand

1271
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: dollars not gonna be the difference that decides that recruitment. Plus,

1272
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: he knows, no matter where he goes, if he takes

1273
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: care of business and he goes to the place that

1274
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 1: can develop him the best, the incentive structure and the

1275
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: retention structure of the way those contracts should be written

1276
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 1: at the school's level and at the league level are

1277
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: such that he knows his earnings are gonna skyrocket second.

1278
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:49,919
Speaker 2: Third, fourth year.

1279
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: Therefore, he is incentivized to stay on the same roster

1280
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: and in the recruiting process. He is incentivized for the

1281
01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 1: things that should matter to matter the most, relationship, returning

1282
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: to the forefront of mattering, the most fit culture development,

1283
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: those things mattering the most. Well, if you have that

1284
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: and then you start to retrain your mind to think that, hey,

1285
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: wherever a guy commits looks like they're going to stick

1286
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 1: around for a while, well, then National Signing Day. I'm

1287
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: not saying it ever returns to fully what it was,

1288
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: but man, it returns a lot closer to what it

1289
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: was than what it is right now. FanDuel has no

1290
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,880
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1291
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: go bet on who's going to win the Big twelve

1292
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,320
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1293
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,080
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1294
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:37,800
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1295
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,600
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1296
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:42,520
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1297
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,320
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1298
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Speaker 2: Well, let's dive in tonight.

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Speaker 1: Who Gainesville will love the first bold prediction from man Ovedo.

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Speaker 1: I think I think it's Ovedo Florida from Florida. Florida

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Speaker 1: finishes ten and two, beats the breaks off Miami and FSU. Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: we're just gonna for the sake of argument, say they

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Speaker 1: beat Miami in FSU. I think this may be a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a correlated prediction. And by that I

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Speaker 1: mean if Florida is good enough to go ten and two,

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Speaker 1: it's highly likely they beat Miami in Florida state in

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Speaker 1: route to ten and two. Not definite. I could see

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Speaker 1: him losing to Miami and going on a run. But

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Speaker 1: you get my point there. This is a nine point

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Speaker 1: twenty five on the boldness scale. Their win total is

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Speaker 1: seven and a half. They have got our number two

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Speaker 1: strength of schedule in the country in the P four,

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Speaker 1: so in the country, I am high on Florida. Ten

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Speaker 1: and two is a little lofty for me. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: make that a nine point twenty five. Next up, and

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Speaker 1: this is certainly building off.

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Speaker 2: Last year.

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Speaker 1: College football with Sam hit us up, he said, Kurt

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Speaker 1: Signetti takes Indiana back to the playoff, except this time

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Speaker 1: he wins at least a game, advancing to the quarterfinals

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Speaker 1: or better. Nine point five for me on this one.

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Speaker 1: They got the ninth best odds to win the Big Ten,

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Speaker 1: but who cares. They didn't have high odds last year.

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Speaker 1: Their top forty in returning production.

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 1: They went and got Mendoza, the quarterback out of California.

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Speaker 1: They got NFL guys on defense. There is a certain energy, obviously,

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Speaker 1: an attitude that team played with last year. I would

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Speaker 1: expect that to carry over. Here is a potential snag.

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Speaker 1: Last year they played seven of the bottom eight teams

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Speaker 1: in the Big Ten.

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Speaker 2: This year they played.

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Speaker 1: Illinois, at Iowa, at Oregon, at Penn State. So if

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Speaker 1: they make the playoff, then they've done something more impressive

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Speaker 1: from a scheduling standpoint than they did last year, which

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Speaker 1: means they've got a better shot at winning a game

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Speaker 1: once they make the playoff.

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Speaker 2: That's still a nine.

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Speaker 1: Point five for me, though that's not an easy draw

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Speaker 1: this year for them. Next up, Yeah, this is a

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Speaker 1: nine point five two.

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Speaker 2: Let's see.

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Speaker 1: Brock from Austin said an sec or Big Ten school

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Speaker 1: will get every at large playoff bid. Okay, so Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame alone could wreck this. Like if Notre Dame makes it,

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Speaker 1: this is done. If the ACC Championship game loser makes it,

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Speaker 1: or the Big Twelve Championship game.

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Speaker 2: Loser makes it, this is done.

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Speaker 1: So what you need is you need some separation in

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Speaker 1: the SEC and the Big Ten, Like you need some

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Speaker 1: elite teams to form in both those conferences and then

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Speaker 1: a little bit of room where they just beat up

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Speaker 1: on the inferior teams and you got a bunch of

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Speaker 1: ten and twos, Cause if you got a bunch of

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Speaker 1: nine and threes, I'm not sure they're all going to

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Speaker 1: be able to overcome whatever else is out there. And also,

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Speaker 1: like think about the Big twelve. What if there's separation there.

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Speaker 1: What if Texas Tech and Arizon the State are clearly

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Speaker 1: the best two teams. They play each other in Tempe,

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Speaker 1: and let's say Arizona State wins, but then they face

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Speaker 1: off twelve to zero versus eleven and one in the

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Speaker 1: Big twelve championship game in Texas Tech wins. Well, both

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Speaker 1: of them are going to the playoff. So you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be wrecked.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 1: Too many scenarios couldrect this. I'm gonna make it a

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Speaker 1: nine and a half. And then the boldest of the

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Speaker 1: night comes to us by way of Dawsonville, Georgia, home

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Speaker 1: of Bill Elliott. Danny said, fran Brown leads Syracuse to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: This season.

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Speaker 1: Nine point seventy five bordering on ten, Jesse, make it

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Speaker 1: a ten. This is a ten for me, I am,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to scratch through that on my own paper. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is a ten. So they made a huge leap

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Speaker 1: last year. They won nine games. There's a reason their

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Speaker 1: win totals five and a half this year. It's because

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Speaker 1: their ninety eighth in returning production. They got hit in

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Speaker 1: the portal. They lost their star wide receiver, their star

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Speaker 1: defensive tackle. But the real problem is the schedule. We

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Speaker 1: got them playing the number one strength of schedule in

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Speaker 1: the ACC. They go to Clemson, they go to SMU,

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Speaker 1: they go to Georgia Tech, they go to Miami. They

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Speaker 1: also go to Notre Dame and out of conference play

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Speaker 1: they play Tennessee to start the season. Making a bowl

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Speaker 1: game this year is a big win for them all

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Speaker 1: things considering, So they're not I mean, fran Brown can

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Speaker 1: use this all he wants to forget about the playoff

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Speaker 1: talk with Syracuse like that.

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Speaker 2: Is a tough tough draw this year. So that's a ten.

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Speaker 2: For me.

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Speaker 1: We got to get out of here, good solid show,

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Speaker 1: a lot of meat on the bones night. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back a week from tonight, So next Tuesday. I hope

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Speaker 1: you're okay that long without me. I will not be

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Speaker 1: okay that long without you, but I'll make you. Or

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