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Speaker 1: Emmy nominated actor Bundie Curtis Hall. Hello, you can't come

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Speaker 1: Unique Jones, Hi, Hi, where are you calling from? Where

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Speaker 1: producing duo Sonya Armstead and Rochelle Brown. Hello. Hi. First

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Speaker 1: We are um, super super excited. This is Rochelle Brown speaking.

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882
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Speaker 1: Rashaan Exactly? I started rebelling from the from the same

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00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,839
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890
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891
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893
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894
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Speaker 1: And they were all, you know, they're doing their own lives.

895
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Speaker 1: That's not what they wanted to do, and I you

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Speaker 1: So I felt, you know completely, I mean to a

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Speaker 1: exactly what you said is what happened to me. And

904
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Speaker 1: I I was supporting people in my family that I

905
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Speaker 1: cared about wanted to see do well. But I wasn't

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909
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Speaker 1: in ways that I felt were good. But I didn't

910
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913
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915
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917
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Speaker 1: answer than it is today. And today I know it's

918
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927
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, not a gift? And I

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943
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Speaker 1: fixing things yourself, talk about that relationship. So my grandma

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Speaker 1: She didn't call somebody, she didn't wait nless it was

964
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966
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Speaker 1: Are our ancestors are even not even that many generations back?

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Speaker 1: And then we're talking to my grandma. So my grandmother

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00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: making their lives happened well, Miss Lewis, while you were

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