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Speaker 2: On this Wednesday. We got a few things to dive into.

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Speaker 2: Overtime in the NFL and the mess that is negotiations

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Speaker 2: going on with the WNBA and the commissioner reportedly calling

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Speaker 2: out Caitlin Clark. It's just these are negotiations, players calling

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Speaker 2: out the commissioner. We'll have that coming up here momentarily

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Speaker 2: DP Show. All Right, Seaton pull question, Yeah, can we

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Speaker 2: go with cleanup hour one? And then what are we

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Speaker 2: going to have our two?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: We can do whatever you want.

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Speaker 3: Alrighting your show?

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Speaker 5: Okay, more overrated in the postseason. Maybe it should be

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Speaker 5: most overrated. Sure for all the English Majors Club history, intangibles,

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Speaker 5: which team wanted more or last week's momentum right now?

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Speaker 5: About forty nine percent of that vote at the club history.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well that's where you say, man, the Red

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Speaker 2: Sox have really been successful. Okay, how many players on

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Speaker 2: this team were on those other teams that were successful

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Speaker 2: against the Yankees?

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Speaker 6: Yes, Paulin, this makes me as upset as it's a

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Speaker 6: super Bowl rematch and the Super Bowl is like eighteen

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Speaker 6: years ago, not a super Bowl rematch.

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Speaker 2: No, Tiger's over the Guardians, clubs over the Padres. Dodgers

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Speaker 2: get a couple of home runs from show Heyo Tani.

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Speaker 2: One of the two sounded like this.

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Speaker 7: On a one to one, Oh Tani, it's a towering

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Speaker 7: ball deep rightfield.

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Speaker 3: He flips the bad bad.

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Speaker 7: Watches it fly three quarters of the way up the

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Speaker 7: Oh you just a mammoth blast for his second home run,

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Speaker 7: and the Dodgers are pouring it on at Gabe.

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Speaker 2: One, Dodgers Radio Network with the Phillies and the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: You must tune in right away because Otani leads off,

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Speaker 2: Kyle Schwarber leads off. This isn't one of those Marquise

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Speaker 2: Grissom's gonna set the table here, it's Otani is in

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Speaker 2: the box and something could happen. Kyle Schwarber the same

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Speaker 2: way Red Sox beat the Yankees three to one.

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Speaker 3: Poll question for Hour two, Seaton. I'll throw this one

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Speaker 3: out there. I could use your help populating it.

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Speaker 5: Okay, publicly calling out the commission of your league by name.

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Speaker 3: Is dot dot.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of words that come to mind.

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Speaker 3: You know what.

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Speaker 2: Let me bring in Ben Pickman, he is covering the

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Speaker 2: situation WNBA reporter for the Athletic. Before I get to you, Ben,

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Speaker 2: I want to play Nofisia Collier had. Now, this is

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Speaker 2: just a portion of what she had to say about

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Speaker 2: the WNBA commissioner, Kathy Engelberg at.

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Speaker 8: Unarrival this past February. I sat a car across from

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Speaker 8: Kathy and asked how she planned to address the officiating

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Speaker 8: issues in our league. Her response was, will only the

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Speaker 8: losers complain about the refs? I also asked how she

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Speaker 8: planned to fix the fact that players like Caitlin Angel

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Speaker 8: and Page, who are clearly driving massive revenue for the league,

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Speaker 8: are making so little for their first four years. Her

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Speaker 8: response was, Caitlyn should be grateful she makes sixty million

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Speaker 8: off the court, because without the platform that the WNBA

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Speaker 8: gives her, she wouldn't make anything. And in that same conversation,

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Speaker 8: she told me players should be on their knees thanking

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Speaker 8: their lucky stars for the media ritesteal that I got them.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, well, Ben pick it up from there.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you could have picked any number of sound bites.

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Speaker 9: I mean, think about any other player in any other

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Speaker 9: sport doing what Nafisa Collier did. I mean, this is

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Speaker 9: a potentially seminal moment in WNBA history. I just want

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Speaker 9: to know how your production crew decided on those clips

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Speaker 9: and not the clip of you know, Nafisa Collier's saying

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Speaker 9: that right now, the WNBA has the worst leadership in

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Speaker 9: going scorched earth and frankly telling a lot of things

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Speaker 10: Tend to agree with.

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Speaker 3: Do you agree with her?

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Speaker 9: I mean, I think there's certainly a lot of valid

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Speaker 9: criticism in what she said. I'm not going to go

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Speaker 9: so far to say that Kathy Engelbert is part of

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Speaker 9: the worst leadership in the world, but I think a

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Speaker 9: lot of what she said is a lot of what

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Speaker 9: you know, someone like me here is in private. I mean,

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Speaker 9: my phone was blowing up Tuesday from you know, the

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Speaker 9: moment that the FISA Collier's comments finished with a lot

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Speaker 9: of people really commending her for saying the quiet part

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Speaker 9: out loud, and the FISA Collier did say this in

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Speaker 9: her own comments that you know, I'm not going to

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Speaker 9: keep things private anymore. She's calling for accountability transparency, not

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Speaker 9: just on officiating but on broader league wide matters too.

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Speaker 2: But they have added five teams. I mean, you know

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Speaker 2: that let's look at what sides here, because the commissioner

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Speaker 2: has done some good things, but this is negotiations and

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Speaker 2: that's where it's a war, and this is one of

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Speaker 2: the most this might be the most important moment in

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's important to call that out because since Kathy

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Speaker 9: Engelbert has been the commissioner, it's around six years now

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Speaker 9: at this point, a lot has changed in the WNBA.

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Speaker 9: I mean, Kathy Engelbert used to say that the WNBA

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Speaker 9: was in an existential moment.

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Speaker 10: That was the word that she used. In twenty twenty.

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Speaker 9: There was a potential that if they didn't play a

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Speaker 9: bubble season, would the league even exist? And so a

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Speaker 9: lot has changed since then. Just look at recent years.

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Speaker 9: A fifty million dollar expansion fee for the Golden State

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Speaker 9: Valkyries in September twenty twenty three, that was two fifty

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Speaker 9: million this summer. I mean that is crazy growth. The

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Speaker 9: valuation this summer. That is all under Kathy Engelbert's watch.

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Speaker 9: But what Nafiza Kalier is also saying is the players

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Speaker 9: heard or what you can hear when she retells that

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Speaker 9: story involving Caitlin Clark, Like that is a clear story

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Speaker 9: of hitting the players against management. And yes, this is

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Speaker 9: a really intense negotiation, and you know these comments are

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Speaker 9: not going to do anything to put less fuel on

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Speaker 10: It's going to explode from here on out.

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark's WNBA salary was seventy eight thousand. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: it's slotted that she's going to make seventy eight thousand. Yes,

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Speaker 2: she makes all that money off the court. But should

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark be grateful that she makes sixteen million dollars

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Speaker 2: off the court, according to the commissioner through Nafisia Collier.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean we should say the commissioner said she

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Speaker 9: was disheartened by the characterization of those comments, and this

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Speaker 9: was an a FISA Collier relaying them. But I mean

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Speaker 9: think about that kind of tactical move or that decision

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Speaker 9: to include Caitlin Clark in this conversation. And we should

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Speaker 9: say Innfisa Collier and Kitlin Clark they shared the same agent, right,

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Speaker 9: So I don't think it's a coincidence that both of

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Speaker 9: those players are that Caitlin Clark's name rather was mentioned

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Speaker 9: in this four and a half minute statement by Nafisa Kallier,

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Speaker 3: Going on there.

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Speaker 9: Kitlin Clark obviously super super important to the league. And

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Speaker 9: one of the questions that you know, I was fielding

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Speaker 9: yesterday was yes, Kathy Engelbert is you know, has been

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Speaker 9: the commissioner over this period of growth. But if you

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Speaker 9: look at the next fifteen years of the league, Dan,

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Speaker 9: who is more important to the health the growth of

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Speaker 9: Kitlin Clark. I think the answer there is is pretty clear.

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Speaker 2: Well, does Caitlin Clark need the WNBA more than the WNBA.

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Speaker 3: Needs Caitlyn Clark.

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Speaker 10: I mean, that is another big question.

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Speaker 9: I feel like you could write books and articles and

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Speaker 9: found articles. Certainly Caitlin Clark is worth you know, millions,

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Speaker 9: if not. You know, I did a story earlier this season,

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Speaker 9: she could be worth up to a billion dollars. Some

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Speaker 9: people told me two women's sports more generally, and so yeah,

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Speaker 9: I mean, Kitlin Clark's certainly a big driver in the

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Speaker 9: broader WNBA revenue conversation, the change of the business right.

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Speaker 2: And the commissioner responded, I'm not going to read the

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Speaker 2: whole statement, but she was complimentary Tonfisia Collier, who's a

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Speaker 2: very bright woman. You know, started the unrivaled league. It's

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Speaker 2: a side league, not a competing league. But where does

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Speaker 2: this go from here?

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Speaker 10: Where does it go? That is a great question.

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Speaker 9: I mean, as you mentioned, the league and the players

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Speaker 9: are in this contentious CBA negotiation. The deal currently expires

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Speaker 9: October thirty. First, we'll see if they reach an extension

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Speaker 9: or if you know, there is a work stoppage, whether

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Speaker 9: it is just in the off season or down the line,

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Speaker 9: may twenty twenty six is when the twenty twenty sixth

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Speaker 9: season would begin, so we will see where things go.

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Speaker 9: I think the tensions have only heightened from here on out.

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Speaker 9: How could they not knowing that Afisa Kllier said what

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Speaker 9: she said, knowing that so many players have supported her,

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Speaker 9: Knowing that now there's so many more eyeballs on the

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Speaker 9: WNBA and what is going on because of her comments

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Speaker 9: like that is what is so fascinating about this really remarkable,

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Speaker 9: remarkable for minute statement than a Fisa Callier gave on Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: There's only a certain piece of the pie available here,

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Speaker 2: Ben that I know. We look at leagues and we

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Speaker 2: go they should be paid more. Well, this it comes

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Speaker 2: down to math. It's just it's that amount of money

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Speaker 2: that's available. We split it up and that's what everybody

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Speaker 2: is going to share it. Now you're adding five new franchises,

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Speaker 2: so now that piece of the pie gets carved up

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Speaker 2: a little bit more. And they did sign what eleven year,

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Speaker 2: two billion dollar, two point two billion dollar TV deal.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of progress here. I'm just I worry.

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Speaker 2: I thought that they trip themselves up with the Caitlyn

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Speaker 2: Clark situation. Nobody knew how to deal with her. Officials

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Speaker 2: didn't be you know, the opposition of their players. They

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Speaker 2: weren't all in on her. Hey, we've got Diana Tarazzi

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Speaker 2: and all the people who started the league. I still

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Speaker 2: don't know if they know how to handle Caitlyn Clark

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Speaker 2: moving forward, because she is different than anybody else in

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, she definitely is.

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Speaker 9: But I want to go back to your point on

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Speaker 9: splitting the pie because I think it's really important here

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Speaker 9: because what makes the WNBA so unique in this context

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Speaker 9: is that also it is owned by the NBA that

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Speaker 9: Kathy Engelbert reports up to Adam Silver, Right, So there

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Speaker 9: are other stakeholders here other than just WNBA owners who

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Speaker 9: are important in this conversation.

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Speaker 11: Right.

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Speaker 9: So it's not just what do the owners of the

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Speaker 9: WNBA think, because even that phrase owners of the WNBA

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Speaker 9: is a really muddled phrase.

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Speaker 12: Right.

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Speaker 9: You have a number of franchises that are owned by

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Speaker 9: the same people that also own NBA teams. Forty two

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Speaker 9: forty two percent is owned by WNBA owners. But in

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Speaker 9: that forty two percent, well, there's some people who are

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Speaker 2: But is it slanted? Ben they are they calling different?

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Speaker 3: Great stuff. Ben, thanks for joining us. We'll be reading.

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Speaker 10: Thanks all for having me.

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Speaker 2: That's Ben Pickman, wmba reporter for the Athletic. I think

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Speaker 2: the WNBA is far more physical than what people thought

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Speaker 2: more physical than the college game. In fact, Geno Rim

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Speaker 2: You know all of this stuff. You have a Wayne Gretzky,

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark's team bowed out in overtime last night. What

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Speaker 2: an incredible season they turned in. They didn't have Cunningham,

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Speaker 2: know you've gotten to that grumpy old man age where

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Speaker 2: What's the topic today that is really bothering you?

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Speaker 12: Overtime? Like, listen to the fans. You guys did it?

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Speaker 12: You guys asked for this right, forty to forty game.

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Speaker 12: We don't get a winner, We don't get a victory,

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Speaker 12: don't we don't get victory? What was wrong with sudden death?

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Speaker 12: There was nothing wrong with sudden death. Sudden death. It's

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Speaker 11: And we want to be fair, and it's not fair.

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Speaker 14: Like did your parenting your parents? Did they have a

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Speaker 2: Okay, if you're in a game and you get to

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Speaker 12: I'm good with whatever, because we had sixty minutes to

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Speaker 11: I just I hate playing an extra.

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Speaker 12: Ten minutes and then nothing is sold, nothing is satisfied

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Speaker 12: The whole thing bothers me. And the thing that bothers

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Speaker 11: Who don't even like our game? Screw them. It's the

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Speaker 11: They're awesome. And yeah, they all blues.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Mark Schlereth. You will find him an

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Speaker 11: It turns out.

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Speaker 12: It turns out that I am the official broadcaster of

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Speaker 3: They are they are.

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Speaker 12: Don't tell anybody I said that that they are at

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Speaker 3: Bryce Young is not a bust. The Panthers are.

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Speaker 12: one guy they can run the Peyton Manning offense. That's

435
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Speaker 12: Peyton Manning, right, So he fails there. Then he goes

436
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Speaker 12: to Matt Rule and the Carolina Panthers and they're running

437
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Speaker 12: some college So the first time that this guy has

438
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Speaker 12: ever gotten into a true progression offense in reality is

439
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Speaker 12: in San Francisco, and so he learned basically NFL football.

440
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Speaker 12: He's year four in the league and at one point,

441
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Speaker 12: Baker Mayfield, we put a picture of a couple of

442
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Speaker 12: a different broadcast, a Tampa broadcast I did last year

443
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Speaker 12: where he is actually a scout team defensive end for

444
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Speaker 12: the Carolina Panthers and they didn't like they cut him,

445
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Speaker 12: and then he signs on in with the Rams and

446
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Speaker 12: plays there for a few weeks as that. I think

447
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Speaker 12: it was a Christmas Day game against the Broncos where

448
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Speaker 12: he hangs fifty on him after being in the facility

449
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Speaker 12: for three days, and you know, he goes on to

450
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Speaker 12: play great football.

451
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Speaker 11: So I don't know what Bryce Young is yet.

452
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Speaker 12: I think he's I mean, he's small, he's diminutive, but

453
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Speaker 12: you know he's going to operate an offense.

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Speaker 11: And I've seen growth because.

455
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Speaker 12: I'm the official broadcast of the Carolina Panthers.

456
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Speaker 11: I've seen some grow, but Dan like I think.

457
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Speaker 12: The wide receivers, I think wide receivers are a completely

458
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Speaker 12: dependent position.

459
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Speaker 11: They're they're like children.

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Speaker 12: One they're dependent, right, ten other guys had to do

461
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Speaker 12: their job for them to sniff a football. And then

462
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Speaker 12: you know, they're they're like toddlers. They whine and they

463
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Speaker 12: cry and they bitch a lot if they don't get fed.

464
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Speaker 12: Like that's who wide receivers are. They're just like toddlers.

465
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Speaker 12: And so ultimately, ultimately there is not very much talent

466
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Speaker 12: on this football team. And so if you're a great quarterback,

467
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Speaker 12: you take you know, fair to midland wide receivers and

468
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Speaker 12: you can create a great offense around that. If you're

469
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Speaker 12: a quarterback trying to figure it out, you've got to

470
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Speaker 12: surround that guy with some opportunities. Some people who can

471
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Speaker 12: actually excel get opening one on one. And going into

472
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Speaker 12: last week, Tedoro McMillan had two hundred and sixteen yards receiving.

473
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Speaker 12: All the other wide receivers combined had a one hundred

474
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Speaker 12: and forty one through three games. It's just they just

475
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Speaker 12: don't I mean, they're just not very good that way

476
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Speaker 12: that talent wise, So again, I just don't know. Do

477
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Speaker 12: I think he's a franchise quarterback? No, But do I

478
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 12: think you can win with Bryce Young if you put

479
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Speaker 12: enough people around him, in pieces around him.

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Speaker 2: I think you probably could help me understand the Eagles situation.

481
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Speaker 2: It feels like every week there's something. Every week there's something.

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Speaker 2: You know, we started out with spitgate with Jalen Carter

483
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Speaker 2: to start the year.

484
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Speaker 3: Now you know, you got aj Brown with a.

485
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Speaker 2: Cryptic tweet that he puts out and then I mean,

486
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Speaker 2: they don't throw the ball a lot, but they when

487
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Speaker 2: they do throw it, I think he's targeted a little

488
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Speaker 2: over thirty percent of the time. So they're good numbers.

489
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Speaker 2: You're winning, you're undefeated, you won the Super Bowl. Help

490
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Speaker 2: me understand the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 11: I can't. I don't understand. I don't come from that world.

492
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Speaker 12: I don't come from that world where I'm not getting

493
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Speaker 12: enough shine, So I'm upset. I come from the offensive

494
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Speaker 12: line world, the world of offensive line, and that's a

495
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Speaker 12: you know, we're a secret mushroom society. Nobody knows what

496
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Speaker 12: the hell we're doing. And if we have a great game,

497
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Speaker 12: we're just to throw away tagine it, you know, I

498
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Speaker 12: mean a guy who rushes for two hundred yards. You

499
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Speaker 12: got to think the big fellows up front. Now let's

500
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Speaker 12: talk about me. I was awesome, you know. I mean,

501
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Speaker 12: that's that's the way it works, right. You give up, man,

502
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Speaker 12: I can whip your ass sixty five plays in a row. Dan,

503
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Speaker 12: I give up one sack. I'm a piece of garbage

504
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Speaker 12: and you go to the Pro Bowl. That's the world

505
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Speaker 12: I come from. And so I don't understand this world

506
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Speaker 12: of we're winning, but I'm not getting to touch the

507
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Speaker 12: ball enough. So I'm going to pout or send cryptic

508
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Speaker 12: tweets or be upset that world. I don't understand that world.

509
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Speaker 12: And I mean, ultimately, it is about winning. And I

510
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 12: know that you want to compete, and I know that

511
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Speaker 12: you want you know you want to win. But you know,

512
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Speaker 12: it's amazing what you can do as an organization, whether

513
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 12: it's football or any organization. It's amazing what you can

514
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Speaker 12: accomplish when no one cares who gets the credit. And

515
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Speaker 12: that's the world I come from. So it's probably why

516
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Speaker 12: I hate wide receivers with the white hot intensity of

517
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Speaker 12: a thousand suns. So it's I'm probably not the right

518
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Speaker 12: guy to ask because I just think. I just think

519
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 12: it's selfish and it bothers me, and you know, and

520
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 12: I'm grumpy and I've got on black sox.

521
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Speaker 11: So that's where I live right now.

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Speaker 3: How frustrating was it? Or is it?

523
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Speaker 2: For an offensive lineman to do your job for a

524
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Speaker 2: couple of seconds and then all of a sudden you

525
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Speaker 2: turn around and your quarterbacks trying to make something happen,

526
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Speaker 2: and then you guys are going to get blamed for

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Speaker 2: a sack.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well I will.

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Speaker 12: I will tell you that sacks are more of a

530
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Speaker 12: quarterback driven and a coaching driven statistic than they are

531
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Speaker 12: on offensive line static in today's NFL with all the

532
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Speaker 12: I mean, we didn't even have a bubble screen when

533
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Speaker 12: I was playing that that didn't even exist. And you know,

534
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 12: and you throw it behind line of scrimmage and out

535
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Speaker 12: to the sidelines so much, and there's so much quick game.

536
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Speaker 12: You really, if you boil it down, Dan, you say,

537
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Speaker 12: hey man, we throw it thirty five times. You boil

538
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,959
Speaker 12: it down thirty five times, you've got five let's call it.

539
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 12: I'm just gonna make the math easy because I'm not

540
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Speaker 12: that smart. We're gonna go five quick balls, like five

541
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Speaker 12: three step drops. Right, So now you're down to thirty. Right,

542
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Speaker 12: we're gonna do five kind of bubble screens. So now

543
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Speaker 12: I'm down to twenty five. We're gonna do five, you know,

544
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Speaker 12: swing passes out to the running backs. All right, So

545
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Speaker 12: now I'm down to twenty. Now we're gonna do a

546
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Speaker 12: five to five step drop, but five step drop with

547
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Speaker 12: no hitch. So it's the ball is out right now,

548
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 12: now I'm down to fifteen, you know, And so I

549
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 12: look at that. How about the boot keep play action game.

550
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Speaker 12: We're gonna do five of those, right, So now I'm

551
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Speaker 12: down to let let's call it. I'll whittle it down,

552
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 12: you know, give or take a few, I'll whiddle it

553
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Speaker 12: down to twelve plays where you actually have to protect

554
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Speaker 12: twelve plays and so ultimately you've got to get the

555
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Speaker 12: ball out of your hand.

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Speaker 11: That's the way the game is designed.

557
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Speaker 12: And I was talking to Byron left which when Tom

558
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Speaker 12: was playing for the Damn Bay Buccaneers, and I said,

559
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Speaker 12: what has been the most amazing thing about Tom?

560
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Speaker 11: And he say, hey, listen, if I.

561
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Speaker 12: Call girl flat, which is the first day, like first

562
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Speaker 12: day operation curl flat. Everybody in the league runs cirl

563
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Speaker 12: flat and your first read is the flat like it's

564
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Speaker 12: just a you know, a back or tight end that's

565
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Speaker 12: in the flat right, whatever it is, and that flat

566
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Speaker 12: is open. And that's the first read in the progression.

567
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Speaker 12: Tom will take it one hundred out of one hundred times,

568
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Speaker 12: never get bored taking the profit, and he'll put us

569
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Speaker 12: in second down and six minus, and then the entirety

570
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Speaker 12: of the offense is open. We're on schedule. You hear

571
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Speaker 12: people say that all the time. On schedule. There are

572
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Speaker 12: some quarterbacks that don't want to throw it. Let me

573
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Speaker 12: see what I can get at hey, let me see

574
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Speaker 12: if I can get something better. Let me see if

575
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Speaker 12: I can get something better. You got to fall in

576
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 12: love with the bory. And that's why guys who scramble around.

577
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 12: Most guys who scramble around don't win championships, because you

578
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 12: got to be You can't like ultimately, Like I look

579
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 12: at Kyler Murray and.

580
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Speaker 11: Do you want to win football games? Or do you

581
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Speaker 11: want to make sports center hihighlights?

582
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 12: Like that was that was what I would ask, like,

583
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 12: because I want to I want to win football games.

584
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Speaker 11: And the way you win is staying out a third

585
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Speaker 11: down and long.

586
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 12: And the way you stay out a third down long

587
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 12: is you have success on first and second down, and

588
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Speaker 12: so if somebody's going to give me a gift, somebody's

589
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Speaker 12: going to give me a five yard quick out and

590
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 12: I pass it by because I want something better or

591
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 12: I want to make a highlight play. What's selfish football?

592
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 12: Because it's second down and five, I can do anything.

593
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 12: Everything is open to me. Second down and ten, I'm predictable.

594
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 12: Nothing is open to you. I have aired down my

595
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Speaker 12: playbook by you know, eighty percent.

596
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Speaker 11: Whatever it is.

597
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Speaker 3: Stay grumpy, Okay.

598
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Speaker 11: I'm gonna get a T shirt.

599
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Speaker 3: Stay grumpy, stay grumpy. Good to talk to you, buddy.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 11: Likewise, be good.

602
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Speaker 2: Bud Mark sleraz NFL on Fox analyst and the official

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Speaker 2: analyst for the Carolina Panthers. I got Dolphins and the

604
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Speaker 2: Panthers at one eastern on Sunday on Fox. See would

605
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Speaker 2: you give me an update on the poll results?

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Speaker 10: If you can, I would be happy to do that

607
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Speaker 10: for you.

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Speaker 5: In uh, let's see, we've got up there? More overrated

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Speaker 5: in the baseball postseason club history. In tangibles, which team

610
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Speaker 5: wants it more? And last week's momentum, which team wants

611
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Speaker 5: it more? Is making a good showing but club history

612
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Speaker 5: is running away with it.

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Speaker 3: So far.

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Speaker 5: The lowest percentage is intangibles very important on this list.

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Speaker 3: James in Virginia, Hi James, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 15: Oh Tiger taking my call? Brother happy way bade dv

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Speaker 15: Dan that's Massa Luther Commanders man big time all the time.

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Speaker 15: Every time you know, I'm coming with you, my brother.

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Speaker 15: Can we just take a moment? Agains just tucking us? No, hey,

620
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Speaker 15: O'tamy Man two home runs two for five three RBIs

621
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Speaker 15: the greatest baseball player played the game because I never

622
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 15: saw baby Ruth Man. But what about the New York Yankees.

623
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Speaker 15: You gotta ride with your ace in a three game series,

624
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Speaker 15: seven a five or seven games? Door guy, because Yankees

625
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Speaker 15: don't win. Back with my favorite Oh my goodness. And lastly,

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Speaker 15: d I'm just gonna say this man, Tulsa Kings is

627
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Speaker 15: one of my favorite shows out right now. Jennis is time.

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Speaker 15: Sylvestera Salon does a great job.

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Speaker 12: Man.

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Speaker 15: Always appreciate you things will let me run have a

631
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Speaker 15: great day, guy from the Commanders.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

633
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 2: James James in Virginia, Tulsa King with Sylvester Stallone.

634
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Speaker 4: Man, I'm gonna need you to go to Tomson. I

635
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 4: don't know why in some movies, Against the Lays has

636
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 4: to talk like this. I'm gonna need you to go toumbson.

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Speaker 13: That's very good?

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Speaker 3: Is that your selvester Stallone?

639
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Speaker 4: No, it's another guy in the thing that cost I'm

640
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Speaker 4: gonna come on in and sit down.

641
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Speaker 3: Does he talk with his hands too?

642
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna need you to little tools.

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Speaker 3: You know. You give me a rambo and I'll watch it. Yeah,

644
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Speaker 3: heck yet, I don't know about the Tulsa King. Yeah, Paul, if.

645
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Speaker 6: You had a dollar for every show about the mafia

646
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 6: in Tulsa, Oklahoma. It got really good reviews. It's been renewed,

647
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Speaker 6: good cast.

648
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I know.

649
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Speaker 6: I think we should try it.

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Speaker 3: Really, I don't know.

651
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Speaker 2: I mean I give every show fifteen minutes when I start,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, that's that's really the litmus test. If I

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Speaker 3: Right, maybe I don't watch you have Poel.

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Speaker 6: I think that was the genius of the episode one

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Speaker 6: of Ozark. In fifteen minutes you were hooked. They went

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, all of a sudden, bodies are falling out

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Speaker 2: of apartment buildings and or guys, are you know, pleading

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Speaker 2: for their life?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: That was that was like, oh wow, really, there wasn't

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Speaker 2: a a slow burn. You don't have to wait three episodes.

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Speaker 2: It's like, oh man, all right, let me take a break.

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Speaker 2: More phone calls coming up. We'll talk some baseball Sean

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Speaker 2: Casey of MLB Network. We'll stop by at the top

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Speaker 2: Dodgers had ten runs in their win over the Reds.

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Speaker 2: The other three wild Card games combined for eleven runs scored.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the teams that win Game one of

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Speaker 2: the best of three Wildcard series are ten and two

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Speaker 2: in Game two of the series and at perfect twelve

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 3: Denny in Portland, Oregon.

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Speaker 16: Hi Denny, good morning DP. Thanks for getting me on.

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Speaker 16: I appreciate that. Hey, we are trying to get an

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Speaker 16: MLB team here in the big roase city and maybe

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Speaker 16: Polly could look us up. With the Portland Diamond project,

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Speaker 16: it's quite a big deal. Russell William or Russell Wilson

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Speaker 16: was in on it at its infancy. Do you think

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Speaker 16: Portland is a city that can support a Major League

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Speaker 16: Baseball team? And what is You have to know what

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Speaker 16: the process is for MLB to select a city.

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Speaker 3: I don't know the process.

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Speaker 2: I know that the Portland initiative started in twenty seventeen

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Speaker 2: and they were raising eight hundred million dollars for a

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Speaker 2: new stadium. And even if you do like there's no

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Speaker 2: guarantee that they would expand there.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of different places.

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Speaker 2: Nashville always comes up as getting a baseball team. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's a great baseball area. They just haven't had a

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Speaker 2: professional team up there. But college also summer leagues. Yeah, Pauline.

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Speaker 6: The Athletic put out an article just a month ago

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Speaker 6: about the expansion progress, and a lot of it's off

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Speaker 6: the record, but they said the cities are possible are Nashville, Portland,

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Speaker 6: Salt Lake City, Charlotte, Austin, and Montreal. There are probably

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Speaker 6: will only be two spots.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well Nashville's got one, you know that feels like it.

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Speaker 5: It feels like it, pretty much feels like it. They're

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Speaker 5: the Vegas of the Midwest, one of everything at this point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I hated to see Montreal lose the Expos. There's so

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Speaker 2: many great teams up there and the environment. I got

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Speaker 2: to see the Mets play up there. Gary Carter is

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Speaker 2: still with the Mets, and I remember going up and

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Speaker 2: watching a game and at a wonderful time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Marvin, funny you mentioned, excuse me, funny, you mentioned

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Speaker 4: the Expos.

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Speaker 5: Is a Netflix documentary called Who Killed the Expos coming

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Speaker 5: out later this month.

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Speaker 2: Oh, okay, time for the sept Heisman, thecept Heisman.

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Speaker 3: The college football player that you.

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Speaker 2: Think is gonna win the Heisman this month if it

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Speaker 2: were given out this month.

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Speaker 6: If it were this morning.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Todd, your nomination for the Scept Heisman.

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Speaker 11: I'm gonna go with the Oregon Ducks quarterback Dante Moore.

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Speaker 12: I think you should be the leader in the clubhouse

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Speaker 12: for now.

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Speaker 3: Okay, safe, all right, seat and you got one.

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Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I was gonna say Dante Moore as well,

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Speaker 5: Oregon huge week. If I could go non quarterback, I'll

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Speaker 5: go Jeremiah Smith. All right, let's get a wide receiver, Marvin.

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Speaker 11: I'm with Fritzy. I'm going Dante Moore Oregon.

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Speaker 3: Also, wow, three for three Paul See.

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Speaker 6: I'm not going Dante more because he has a really

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Speaker 6: good chance to win the whole thing. This is for

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Speaker 6: a guy who's gonna get it this month, but not

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Speaker 6: in November December.

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Speaker 5: So it's not someone we think can actually win. It's

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Speaker 5: someone who only win it this month exactly. Oh, I

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Speaker 5: wasn't aware of that. Yes, God, it's.

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Speaker 6: The Septizeman, not the Heisman. Fernando Mendoza Indiana Hoosiers.

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Speaker 3: He written all over them.

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Speaker 6: Are you talking about when they get into some of

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Speaker 6: those tougher games. Maybe not sixteen touchdowns one pick in

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Speaker 6: the month of September.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my choice. The Indiana quarterback transfer in.

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Speaker 5: I think he's number two in the odds right.

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Speaker 2: Septem heisman stizement, simptizement, and then we do these septem

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Speaker 2: VP next hour.

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Speaker 6: Very exciting. That could be any person or coach or

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Speaker 6: executive in sports who had the best month.

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Speaker 2: Like bad Bunny. Could be the yeah sep tem VP. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: or Benny Blanco who married Selena.

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Speaker 3: Gomez man learn how to sing?

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Speaker 15: Dang?

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Speaker 2: Or right me music? Yes, yeah, all right, we have

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Speaker 2: a height quiz. This, of course, was a situation issue.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday Marvin claimed he was tall and he's six feet tall,

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Speaker 2: and you're not tall.

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Speaker 3: You're just not short. I think we established that, did we. Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I did, as being a hightist and somebody who towers.

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Speaker 3: Over you towers.

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Speaker 5: I think that's the reason you ran McLevin out of

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Speaker 5: here was he was the tallest. Yeah, now I'm the tallest.

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Speaker 5: So you guys are all sure, Ye don't think that's

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Speaker 5: why you.

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Speaker 2: When we hire people, I just say you don't have

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Speaker 2: to send your resume, just height and weight. That's all

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Speaker 2: I care about. Anthony got hired and he's shorter than me.

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Speaker 2: Rob got hired. He's shorter than me. Just about everybody.

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Speaker 2: Ray big Day, Ray raised taller.

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Speaker 3: Than me, but he slumps around a lot. Yeah, he

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Speaker 3: does whenever he's around me. When he's around me, he's

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Speaker 3: hunched over a little. Okay. The height quiz, Paul.

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Speaker 6: We have a little quiz. What is the tallest country

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Speaker 6: in the world where the average height of the people

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Speaker 6: is the tallest, and there's five of them? There's a

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Speaker 6: clear number one that always wins us. But there's five

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Speaker 6: countries who.

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Speaker 3: Like to take a shot Todd China, Nope, seatan.

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Speaker 5: Man, it's not I'm going to say the Dutch.

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Speaker 3: Wait, what is the Dutch?

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Speaker 5: That Netherlands.

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Speaker 6: You are correct, The Netherlands is the tallest country in

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Speaker 6: the world. Oft in sight is the tallest nation, average

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Speaker 6: height just over six feet.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so not tall.

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Speaker 5: They call it the Netherlands because they're so tall, but the

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Speaker 5: rest of us can't see those heights.

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Speaker 2: The nice job, all right, Marvin. Who else is on

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Speaker 2: the list of tallest countries?

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Speaker 11: Not Italy?

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Speaker 3: Not Italy is correct as a shot. Canada, No, I'm

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Speaker 3: going Australia.

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Speaker 6: No, Montenegro, Denmark, Serbia, and Estonia. The Balkans are talking,

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Speaker 6: the Balkans, the Talkiens, the Tlkiins.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, j R. Tolkien's you see I went to class occasionally.

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Speaker 2: I didn't read J. R.

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Speaker 3: Tolkien. Did you guys? Yes you did j R. R. Oh,

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Speaker 3: my bad, Marvin. Did you read Tolkien?

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Speaker 11: I did not.

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Speaker 3: Todd, I'm sure you did.

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Speaker 5: You could just start with did you read Nope?

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Speaker 3: No, I didn't, Todd. I don't think I read a

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Speaker 3: talking book.

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Speaker 11: There was ever a signed to us.

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Speaker 3: Okay, did you read Beowolf?

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Speaker 6: Yes, we had to do it two months on Beowulf Tales.

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Speaker 3: I like Beowolf. I couldn't.

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Speaker 2: I cried Wolf. My English tea was a beautiful woman,

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Speaker 2: missus Ross, and that's the only reason why I paid attention.

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Speaker 2: I paid attention to her, not what she was teaching me.

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Speaker 2: And you know, you just shake your head like Dan,

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Speaker 2: I answered the question.

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Speaker 11: Yes.

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Speaker 2: Sean Casey joins us, talks some baseball at him final

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Speaker 2: hour on this Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: More of your phone calls as well.

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