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Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes

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Speaker 2: of the old Republic, a sol fashion of fairness. He

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Speaker 2: treats crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as the

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Speaker 2: rich pill poppers in the penthouse. Wow to Clearinghouse of

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Speaker 2: hot takes, break free for something special. The Fifth Hour

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Speaker 2: with Ben Mahller starts right now.

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Speaker 1: In the air Everywhere.

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Speaker 3: The Fifth Hour with Me, Ben Mahler and Danny g Radio.

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Speaker 1: A Happy Friday to you as.

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Speaker 3: We are back in the remote studio after a successful

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Speaker 3: week on The Overnight Show, and we begin a new

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Speaker 3: today on this Friday podcast only edition, celebrate National Oreo

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Speaker 3: Day today. The Oreo Cookie, which first debuted way back

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Speaker 3: in nineteen twelve by a grocer in Hoboken, New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: Before that, think about.

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Speaker 3: If you lived in nineteen ten or eighteen eighty eight,

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Speaker 3: no Oreo cookies. But it was a grocer in Hoboken,

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Speaker 3: they had a lemon moraine flavor which was not very popular.

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Speaker 3: Not very popular, so they discounted that or they discontinue

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Speaker 3: that and it's been around over one hundred years. Over

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Speaker 3: well over one hundred years. The Oreo cookie. Today is

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Speaker 3: also a day that you are not participating in. It

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Speaker 3: is the National Day of Unplugging. We thank you for

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Speaker 3: not participating in the National Day of Unplugging. It does

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Speaker 3: mean mean a lot to us. They say that seventy

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Speaker 3: seven percent of people own a smartphone. It's got to

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Speaker 3: be more than that. There was a study done somewhat recently.

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Speaker 3: Seventy seven percent of people own a smartphone and use

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Speaker 3: it constantly. So never put it down, always have it.

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Speaker 3: The whole thing cannot unplug, no digital detoks.

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Speaker 1: I use it a lot. Occasionally I can put the

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Speaker 3: I am able to put the phone down for a

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Speaker 3: few minutes. Anyway, enough of that, let's get to the

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Speaker 3: with a buddy of mine, someone that I've known for many,

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Speaker 3: many years. His name is Robbie Ink mccowsky. He is

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Speaker 3: a broadcaster TV guy, has had a long career in television.

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Speaker 3: Is a listener to the Overnight Show. And if you're

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Speaker 3: in Minnesota or if you're in Pittsburgh, you know who

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Speaker 3: this guy is. He's lived the life, and Robbie has

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Speaker 3: with the Texas Rangers as a TV sideline guy. And Robbie,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to get into that at some point here

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Speaker 3: with Robbie. We're going to talk about that. The book

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Speaker 3: called Sacred Grounds. It's awesome. I love baseball stadiums, and Robbie,

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Speaker 3: all his years traveling around the major leagues, he went

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Speaker 1: The book's called Sacred Grounds.

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Speaker 3: I will tell you about that where you can get

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Speaker 3: it on Robbie's website robbiec dot com.

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Speaker 3: Before we get to the book, Robbie, I've not talked

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Speaker 1: But I do not remember how we met.

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Speaker 4: not SA And you put me to sleep bend. That

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Speaker 3: And then like you couldn't do that now, Like if

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Speaker 3: But the Twins were not very good, Robbie, right, they

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Speaker 3: You, Robbie, is because your personality, Like I when I

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Speaker 4: Coach I remember Todd Hunley.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he came to the Dodgers and he had had

437
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,160
Speaker 3: an operation with the Mets and they screwed up his arm.

438
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 3: He couldn't throw anymore, and they put they tried to

439
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,160
Speaker 3: put him the outfield, didn't work.

440
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Speaker 1: The Dodgers got him.

441
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,320
Speaker 3: But this was a weird time for the Dodgers because

442
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Speaker 3: they had Mike Piazza, who was beloved. They got rid

443
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 3: of Piazza and then they had Charles jon But anyway,

444
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 3: they brought Todd Hunley in and he wasn't that good

445
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,919
Speaker 3: at that point. He had a few home runs, but

446
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 3: he yeah, really bad defensive player. So I had made

447
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 3: some comments. I just started doing a talk show. I

448
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 3: was doing a midday show in LA and I'd made

449
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 3: some comments that you know, he was not good, he

450
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,479
Speaker 3: was and he wasn't Onley was not playing very well

451
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Speaker 3: for the Dodger.

452
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Speaker 1: So I made some comments.

453
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Speaker 3: And I was in the locker room a couple days

454
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Speaker 3: later and Todd came up to me and he starts

455
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Speaker 3: reading me the riot Act, right, you know, it's kind

456
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Speaker 3: of getting in my face.

457
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh boy.

458
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Speaker 3: But then the funniest thing, Robbie is he said, I

459
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Speaker 3: do not listen to your show, but my family does.

460
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Speaker 1: I was like, okay.

461
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:19,360
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, fair enough, fair enough, but but enough

462
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 3: about that. Let's get to the good stuff.

463
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Speaker 4: Oh that's great. I love those stories though. By the way,

464
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 4: I can't tell you how many players over the years

465
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 4: have pulled me aside and go who is that guy?

466
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 4: And they and they would say, I thought that was him.

467
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 4: I can't stand that guy.

468
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure.

469
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Speaker 3: So you contacted me a while back.

470
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Speaker 1: You said, hey, I'm working on this thing and I

471
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Speaker 1: want to chat with you.

472
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 3: I said, okay, sure, whatever, fine, So we chatted for

473
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Speaker 3: a little bit about some of my experiences at Dodger Stadium.

474
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 3: And then somewhat recently you contacted me. He said, Hey,

475
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 3: the project is done. And that project I thought, well,

476
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Speaker 3: this is probably some rinky dink thing, this is nothing,

477
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 3: but no, it's uh, it's a book called Sacred Grounds,

478
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 3: and this is your baby here, and if you're a

479
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 3: baseball person, it's just amazing.

480
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Speaker 1: You did a great job. You nailed it. And it's

481
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 1: all about all.

482
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 3: The different ballparks and all your experiences, some of the stories. Right,

483
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 3: You've got a bunch of You've interviewed a bunch of

484
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 3: people that you know and met over your time with

485
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 3: the Pirates and the Twins, and so explain I'm not

486
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 3: doing a great job. Explain Sacred Grounds, Robbie, what this

487
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 3: project's all about.

488
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Speaker 4: So, Ben and I appreciate you having me on and

489
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Speaker 4: give me a chance to talk about this, because the

490
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 4: reception so far that we've received for Sacred Grounds really

491
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 4: has just blown me away, and I'm so thankful for it. So,

492
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 4: as I've described to you before, I spent sixteen years

493
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 4: as a TV reporter and host in Major League Baseball.

494
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 4: So I spent four years with the twins eleven with

495
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 4: the Pirates, and in twenty twenty four, I took a

496
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 4: backup role with the Texas Rangers on their TV broadcast

497
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,439
Speaker 4: before they switch networks to the Ranger Sports Network. And

498
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 4: you spend all this time getting to know the players,

499
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 4: the coaches, the trainers. But as you know, Ben, how

500
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 4: many characters are there around the game of baseball that

501
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 4: nobody knows about? Right? Like for sure, you know, there's

502
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 4: just so many of them. And I never thought in

503
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 4: my life I would be writing a book on ballparks

504
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 4: with photos from all thirty ballparks and then interviewing the

505
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 4: press dining server in Cincinnati, Ohio. And that's one of

506
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 4: the stories in my book. So I tried to shed

507
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 4: a light on the stories that happen in baseball that

508
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 4: people really don't know a lot about. They don't really

509
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 4: know that they exist. So we tried to get the

510
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 4: story behind the story a lot of times. So I'll

511
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 4: give you an example. Everybody obviously remembers when Cal Ripken

512
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 4: broke the Major League Baseball record for consecutive games played, Right,

513
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 4: everybody remembers that, Sure, I interviewed the guy that played

514
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 4: third base next to him that night and I just

515
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 4: wanted to know what that was like that night, what

516
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 4: was your day like? What's it like being remembered as

517
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 4: the guy that played next to Cal Ripken at third base.

518
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 4: The problem is not a lot of people remember it.

519
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 4: Jeff Houston is his name, and he's a wonderful guy,

520
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 4: and he starts telling me some of these stories and

521
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 4: he sent me a couple of photos. We end up

522
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 4: getting a great story for the book. You know, you

523
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 4: remember in August seventh, two thousand and seven, Barry Bond

524
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 4: sets Major League Baseball's home run record. Well, my broadcast

525
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 4: partner with the Texas Rangers was Mike Basseck, the guy

526
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 4: that gave up the home run, and he's very open

527
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,479
Speaker 4: about it and he owns that part of history. So

528
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 4: why not dig into that side of the story. We've

529
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 4: heard from Barry a ton, we've heard from Cal Ripken

530
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 4: a ton about breaking the streak record, but what about

531
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 4: the people on the other side of that. So we

532
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 4: looked into that a little bit and just tried to

533
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 4: talk about the game day experience at each place and

534
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 4: give people a tour of all thirty ballparks from their

535
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Speaker 4: own couch.

536
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, it's great. And of course I love

537
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 3: it because I'm in the book, Robbie. I made the

538
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 3: book Who the Dodger Stadium section there you're going to

539
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 3: the behind the scenes on Chavezervin some of the stories

540
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 3: there from Dodger Stadium, but it's every every ballpark and

541
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 3: this is this and you have I love that you

542
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 3: have a checklist in the back there too, Robbie. So

543
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 3: if like you're traveling, a lot of people love to

544
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 3: go to I haven't even been every ballpark. You've been

545
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 3: there because you did the TV stuff. I've been most

546
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 3: of them, but i haven't been to every ballpark, and

547
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 3: I'd like to get to every ballpark before I'm done

548
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 3: here and check it out. And you have, you know,

549
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 3: obviously stories, you get things to look at when you

550
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 3: go to the ballparks, and in the back you have

551
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 3: the little checklists so you can check out the dates

552
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 3: and write down the dates and all that. And you

553
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,959
Speaker 3: brought up a great point though about the people behind

554
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 3: the scenes. I know, for my years at Dodger Stadium,

555
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 3: when I was there every night, the most important people

556
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 3: are often like the for the players, it's the clubhouse

557
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 3: attendants and the people like that.

558
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: But for the media.

559
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 3: It's the person that cooks the food, it's the the

560
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 3: press box attended, Like those are the people that really

561
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 3: that moved the needle. And you were always running I

562
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 3: remember always you were run around taking photos. You were

563
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,959
Speaker 3: you were multitasking while you're doing the TV stuff all

564
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 3: those years, right, I mean this was something yeah, you

565
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 3: were Were you planning this like or did this just

566
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Speaker 3: kind of pop up?

567
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: It was.

568
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 4: It's kind of crazy because it was a little bit

569
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Speaker 4: of everything.

570
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:21,719
Speaker 1: It was.

571
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Speaker 4: I didn't really plan it. I had taken a bunch

572
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Speaker 4: of pictures. I started at Fenway Park in twenty seventeen

573
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 4: when the Pirates had opening day there, so I thought

574
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 4: that would be kind of cool, so I bought a

575
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 4: digital camera. But I've always been fascinated with ballparks because

576
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 4: you know how they they connect. You know, baseball stadiums

577
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 4: connect a city with its baseball team. You know, when

578
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 4: you look at you look at football, it's one hundred

579
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 4: yard field and the end zones ten yards, and then

580
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 4: you look at a hockey it's two hundred and by

581
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Speaker 4: eighty five. You look at basketball, same dimensions, but baseball

582
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 4: is so unique in that way, and you look at

583
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Speaker 4: the character and charisma of each ballpark. It ties a

584
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 4: city to its team. And I've always been fascinated with

585
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 4: baseball stadiums for one reason or another, and I've loved them.

586
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 4: So I made sure I took pictures at all thirty

587
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 4: ballparks when I traveled. So from twenty seventeen to twenty

588
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 4: twenty four, I did that and thought I was just

589
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 4: going to do a little you know, you know, a

590
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 4: little Shutterfly album for my friends to check out when

591
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 4: they came over. And then I met my author, Kyle

592
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 4: Feger and his team at a sender book services and

593
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 4: they said, oh, this is going to be pretty good.

594
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 4: And we worked our tails off and called one hundred

595
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 4: and probably one hundred and thirty one hundred and forty people.

596
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 4: We end up getting one hundred and twenty into the book.

597
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 4: So we just we put the work in. We worked,

598
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 4: you know, extremely hard. We're extremely proud of the product

599
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 4: that we produced, and I don't know, man like it

600
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 4: just it kind of all came together a little bit.

601
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 4: You know, people love retelling stories and they loved talking

602
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,479
Speaker 4: about with the ballpark experiences, so that's kind of how

603
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 4: all this came together. And it's been a lot of

604
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 4: fun doing it.

605
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Speaker 1: It's a great point because we were kids.

606
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: We're about the same age, and we had there was

607
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 3: that era, you know where if you watched a Philadelphia

608
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 3: Phillies game or a Cincinnati Reds game or a Cardinals game,

609
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 3: you didn't even know what ballpark.

610
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: They all looked the same.

611
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 4: They were all cookie cutter back in those days.

612
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 3: And you look at and you know, you spent a

613
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 3: lot of time in Pittsburgh PNC Park, and I've never

614
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 3: seen a game there, Rubbie. I went to Pittsburgh years

615
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 3: ago and the Pirates were out of town or whatever,

616
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 3: and so I was walking around.

617
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: I looked at the view and it's just it's amazing.

618
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 3: The apps, the bridges and the skyline in the background.

619
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: It's like a painting. It's like a Bob Ross painting,

620
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: if you were amazing.

621
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Speaker 3: The view from PNC Park in Pittsburgh is just next level, Like.

622
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 4: It's the most beautiful ballpark in America. It's gorgeous. Yeah,

623
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 4: there's another way to really say it. The way it's situated,

624
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 4: looking at downtown Pittsburgh, right along the banks of the

625
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 4: Alleghany River, not far from the Point State Park. It's

626
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 4: just beautiful. The Clemeny Bridge is right there beyond center field.

627
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 4: Roberto Clemenny's statue. You see it as soon as you

628
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 4: come down into the north shore. As soon as you

629
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 4: step off the bridge, the first thing you see to

630
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 4: your left is the big statue of Roberto Clemente. You

631
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 4: keep walking, you see Willie Stargel's statue, and if you

632
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 4: make your way down the river walk, you go down

633
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 4: the steps and along the river walk, there's a bunch

634
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 4: of giant numbers, giant baseballs, and then you see the

635
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 4: Bill Mezerowski statue. It's just an amazing, amazing place. And

636
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 4: any baseball fan that has not had a chance to

637
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 4: see PNC Park, you absolutely have to put this on

638
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 4: your ballpark tour and it has to be at the

639
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 4: top of the list.

640
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 3: I completely agree. And Pittsburgh underrated city too. By the way,

641
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 3: I thought i'd heard some terrible things back in the

642
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 3: day about Pittsburgh.

643
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: When I visited, I think it is really cool.

644
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 4: It's a lot now now all that stuff has gone. Man,

645
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh's a beautiful city. It's a great city, full hard workers,

646
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 4: great sports town. Ben they love their sports in Pittsburgh.

647
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 4: The it the insers, the insers, the insurers. There are

648
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 4: so many insurers, and I love them all their beauties,

649
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 4: man stealer flags outside their house. They complain about the

650
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 4: Pirates when they struggle. It's it's it's incredible. I love it.

651
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 4: I love this town. I love living here. I love

652
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 4: it as a city, and I love it as a

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Speaker 4: baseball city even more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta get the Pirates good again, though, got

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Speaker 1: to get the Pirates.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna be good this year. Ben, They're going to

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Speaker 4: make the playoffs in my opinion, Brother, I hope.

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Speaker 3: So all right, how can people now, Robbie, where do

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Speaker 3: you want people to buy the book?

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Speaker 1: It's called Sacred Grounds. It's do you want them to

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Speaker 1: go to your website?

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Speaker 4: Is it? Yep? My website, that's it's the only place

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Speaker 4: it's available right now. We're working on changing that. Uh

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Speaker 4: my name first three lovers of my last name, Robbie

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Speaker 4: R O B B Y I n C. So Robbie,

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Speaker 4: it is R O B B Y I NC dot

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Speaker 4: com and uh we'll get the book out to you,

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Speaker 4: you know, depending on the time of day. If the

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Speaker 4: post office is open, it's going up that day, If not,

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Speaker 4: it's going out first thing the next morning.

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Speaker 1: All right, Yeah to you.

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Speaker 3: It's really cool. It's you know, it's a hearty book,

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Speaker 3: and it's great because you can you know, you know,

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Speaker 3: you can sit down and whether you want to sit

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Speaker 3: down and look at the whole thing or maybe you know,

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Speaker 3: you got a few minutes. I do a lot of

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Speaker 3: my reading, Robbie on the throne. I'm going to admit it,

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Speaker 3: I do. And you know, I might take that and there,

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Speaker 3: read it, check it out a little bit, and then

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Speaker 3: I'll look at the Marlins Ballpark because I don't know

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Speaker 3: I want to go see that stadium, but I'll check

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Speaker 3: it out because you've got stories on that and everything.

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Speaker 1: So I guess.

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Speaker 4: Stories on all thirty brother, all thirty ballparks. You get

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Speaker 4: to see them all, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, So check it out again, Robbie, as he said,

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Speaker 3: R O B. B Y I NC dot com. It's

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Speaker 3: called correct Sacred Grounds.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Robbie the man appreciated.

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Speaker 4: Thank you you are the best, Ben. Thank you brother,

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Speaker 4: and I am honored to have you in my book.

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Speaker 1: Got a murder. I gotta go