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Speaker 2: blow your cover when you cover up. Hey, welcome to

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Speaker 2: Saturday morning. So feedback time, yes, sir, just basically when

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Speaker 2: them a complex about their own race, where it's like

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00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 2: you don't really count because you're light, you know, and

442
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,399
Speaker 2: you know that woman is a black woman respected, you know.

443
00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,119
Speaker 2: Let you know, let's not start another fire.

444
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 1: And I've actually talked to grown women that are fair

445
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,920
Speaker 1: skin and white skin and mixed. And we've sat down

446
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 1: and talked and they've said that they've had more issues

447
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 1: and dealt with more racial backlash from black people telling

448
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 1: them that they're not black enough and they're not dark enough.

449
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 4: Well I won't say more, but they dealt with their

450
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 4: fair share of shit. They still black.

451
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, they gonna get it from both ends because

452
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 2: they black. Like the world ain't the world isn't like

453
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 2: taking it easy on no niggas like, oh, this one's fine,

454
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 2: Like they gonna catch it because you know, race is

455
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 2: still a touchy topic and somebody's gonna say something fucked

456
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:42,360
Speaker 2: up around.

457
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 4: It no matter what.

458
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 2: So you know, you're a black woman and you're light skin,

459
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 2: Like I would like people keep asking for real about it.

460
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 2: I love to hear from the model in the video

461
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 2: to be like I mean on the cover and what

462
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 2: she thinks about.

463
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 3: It, Yeah, because like I said before, and I stand beside.

464
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,159
Speaker 1: Behind it, it's very very insulting her and her blackness,

465
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 1: and people want to disregard regard them that backlash towards

466
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: her not being black enough, Like that's just not an

467
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: issue and she should just deal with that. But why

468
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: do you have to be dark dark to be black?

469
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: Why can't blackness just be all across the board? And

470
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 1: we know this, but people are just sensitive about their

471
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 1: own issues that they bring their own issues to the

472
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 1: table and they argue about shit, it's irrelevant.

473
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

474
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 2: The other thing too that's funny is when it comes

475
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 2: to like that cover something. What I see is a

476
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,199
Speaker 2: dude on the screen with three women that are all

477
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 2: in bathrobes or something.

478
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,199
Speaker 4: Forell's married or whatever.

479
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 2: But there's this intimation of like, you know, I'm fucking

480
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 2: these chicks.

481
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 4: On the cover.

482
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 2: It's like, so if he would have been fucking three

483
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 2: black women, it wouldn't have been like someone no one

484
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 2: would have had a problem with, Like oh so now

485
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 2: black women are just props to be held up as

486
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 2: sexual objects. It's like nobody would have been saying that, Like,

487
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 2: someone's gonna have an issue no matter what. So at

488
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 2: least as an artist, just represent yourself. Like that's the

489
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 2: way we kind of do the show. I figure someone's

490
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 2: gonna have an issue with no matter what stance we take.

491
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 2: There's people out here doing shows and albums where they're

492
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 2: trying to like not offend anybody, And I find that

493
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 2: to be the most offensive art of all, Like, I

494
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 2: don't want to listen to your shit, honestly, because your

495
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 2: whole point is you like luke warm water, you know

496
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like, why would I drink room temperature water?

497
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 2: It's just nasty to me. So that's kind of how

498
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff is. I want the authentic representation.

499
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: Of whatever you're giving, regardless of what it is, because

500
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 1: your truth is your truth, and nobody can tell you

501
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 1: what your truth is.

502
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 4: The tickler says, so fine, but so wrong.

503
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 2: Them ladies got so far up in their feelings they

504
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 2: couldn't find a way back out. Roder Cairen went all

505
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 2: Florida style and stood their ground on this, and I

506
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 2: loved it. Well, I feel like that's a bit inflammatory.

507
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 2: These are people that we're friends with, they're fans of

508
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 2: the show. You know, definitely don't want to insult them.

509
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: I actually saved the story for them because I wanted

510
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 2: to hear other opinions and just what we were going

511
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: to say about it. I already know how I felt

512
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 2: about it, but sometimes you get enlightened or you just

513
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 2: hear another perspective and it's like, you know, this is

514
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: like knowing, like I'm not speaking for this person. They're

515
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 2: speaking for themselves, and you can kind of judge based

516
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 2: on that. But yeah, I wouldn't just say they got

517
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 2: so up in the films. Plus all three of them

518
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 2: didn't agree, so it's not like all three of them

519
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 2: was like disagreeing with us.

520
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 4: So you know, just.

521
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: Let's not troll the show, Corey, Let's keep it real.

522
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 2: Tristan says, I think insecurity is a very loaded word.

523
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 2: I also think for real it's clever enough to use

524
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 2: the word purposely to express his frustrations with a small

525
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 2: jab at people who are using the album to hashtag

526
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 2: spremeboard their own agenda. I understand the conversation is one

527
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 2: that needs to be had, but like with Park Colbert,

528
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 2: you shoot at the wrong target.

529
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 4: You only handle your argument. Yeah, I hear you, man, I.

530
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 2: Maybe he did use it that way, or like I said,

531
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,959
Speaker 2: this happens to me sometimes I can't think of a

532
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 2: more accurate word, and so I use a word and

533
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 2: then I think about it later. I'm like, Okay, I

534
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: guess that was a loaded word, but fuck if that

535
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: ain't the right word, you.

536
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 4: Know what I mean?

537
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 2: Where I'm like, well, you just say something It's like, well,

538
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 2: other people might be using this as an inso, and

539
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 2: I understand that in this context. You know, I wasn't

540
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 2: trying to use it as an insol, but damn is

541
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 2: not a better word than ignorant right now or something

542
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 2: like that, you know, like, well, you're just ignorant to this.

543
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 4: What you call it ignorant?

544
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 2: It's like, well, come on, man, you you literally don't know.

545
00:25:55,440 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 2: But ignorant doesn't mean you don't know. Yeah, if I

546
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 2: say you don't know about this, is that fine? Well

547
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 2: that's different.

548
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 4: I'm not mad. It's like, Okay, I guess it's a

549
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 4: loaded word. What can I do? Right?

550
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 2: But maybe he's taking a jab. I don't know if

551
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: he is or not. But I wouldn't be surprised if

552
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 2: he was taking a jab because it is insulting in

553
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 2: his opinion, probably to his own art. And regardless, everybody's

554
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: not here for being checked like this idea that is

555
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 2: pretty much an Internet only theory idea, a very liberal

556
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: idea of you need to check yourself or you need

557
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: to let me check you and check everybody not here

558
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 2: for And there's a lot of times what doesn't happen.

559
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 2: People don't acknowledge that there has been thought put into something,

560
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: and when that person expresses anything back, it's like.

561
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa, look at your privilege.

562
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 2: It's like, or I thought about this shit and this

563
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 2: is literally my opinion.

564
00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know it's not.

565
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 4: It's not always the offended party is right, that's.

566
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: True, and sometimes the offended party is wrong. And the

567
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: thing about it, a lot of times the offended party

568
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: never comes back to that person. If things come out

569
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 1: and they find out that this person actually has a

570
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 1: well thought out process, has critical thinking skills, and has

571
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: started out, nobody ever comes back and it's like you

572
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: know what, man, I'm bad, I'm sorry. Everybody just keeps rolling.

573
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: And then, like you said, people don't want to be checked.

574
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: Most people don't want to be checked in their lives,

575
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: but yet they want to take the time to constantly

576
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: check other people know what they're doing in the things

577
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: that they're doing.

578
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 3: When they want when if somebody else comes comes.

579
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: Down their avenue and tell them, you know what, I

580
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: think you should do this, you're gonna look at them

581
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: and say fuck you. Well, then why don't you expect

582
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 1: that response when you do it to other people?

583
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

584
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 2: I thought the New Black Shit was more of a

585
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 2: weird quote than the insecurity shit, honestly, because I think

586
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 2: I think people did attack him out of insecurity honestly,

587
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 2: Like when the fact that people were like, these are

588
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: white women and it wasn't was enough.

589
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 3: And then when the truth came out that they weren't all.

590
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 4: Then they switched it to she's not the right kind

591
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 4: of black.

592
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: Then your issue, Joe runs deeper than it not being

593
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: any black woman.

594
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: Also, the poll I forgot about this was Pharrell right

595
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: about insecurity stopping folks from being great. Yes he had

596
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: a point, or no he was way off. No he

597
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: was way off. Twenty eighty percent. The audience says, yeah,

598
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: he actually had a point. Erica says, Pharrell's album goes in.

599
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 2: I think people just want something to bitch about. I'm

600
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 2: a plus sized woman. Should I write a think piece

601
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 2: about how he doesn't have a big girl on the cover.

602
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 2: I kind of agree with his statement. It is hard

603
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: not seeing reflection yourself in the media. However, this didn't

604
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: start with Pharrell. It's been going on for a while.

605
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 2: I think it is hard not seeing yourself in as

606
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 2: reflected in the media. But one thing I think people

607
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: glossed over in his statement because people are upset that.

608
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 4: He would even have an opinion to defend himself.

609
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 2: Yes, one thing people glossed over, which he's absolutely right about.

610
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: There's never been a better time for you to represent

611
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: you with social media, with access to the internet, with

612
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 2: you know, your ability to start your own podcasts, start

613
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: your own music career, start.

614
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 4: Your own YouTube page.

615
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: There has never been a better time for you to

616
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: just circumvent than that, like the typical media gatekeepers, than

617
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: right now. And I feel like that guy glossed over,

618
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: But that is probably the most important.

619
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 4: Statement he could have made, which is go be you.

620
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: For the masses, and then there's only one of you,

621
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: and you will have and you will represent every single

622
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: idea that you want yourself to be, you know what

623
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: I mean. So I can't do like, I can't represent

624
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: you for you. No, Like it's not even across my

625
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: mind to be like, oh wait, I'm sorry, like skinned woman,

626
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: you're not the right type of black out of the

627
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: photo shoot. Like it's never going to cross his mind

628
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: because he's like, I don't even think like that. But

629
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: if that's your thing, why not go, you know, why

630
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 2: not go and be your own Forarrell for lack of

631
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: a better term. You know, Black Rob says one of

632
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: the first rules of writing is not to alienate your audience,

633
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: while Pharrell was technically quote unquote right about.

634
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 4: Insecurity limiting folks.

635
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: Once you alienate your audience, you they aren't going to

636
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: listen to anything you have to say, no matter how

637
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: right you are that said, I think it was right

638
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 2: with his comments about insecurity stopping folks from being great,

639
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: and the controversies surrounding his album cover is a perfect

640
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: example of that. How much time, effort, and energy was

641
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: wasted by folks who were mad that Pharrell supposedly didn't

642
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: have any black women on the cover of his album,

643
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: only to find out that he did have a black

644
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 2: woman on the album cover and all the women picture

645
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 2: were his friends. Then folks moved the gold postly became well,

646
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: she ain't black enough for better or worse.

647
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 4: That comes from a place of insecurity.

648
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 2: As can said that insecurity is justified, but is insecurity nonetheless?

649
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 4: I said that, but okay, in.

650
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: The grand scheme of things, who Pharrell puts on this

651
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: album cover has little to no impact on the plight

652
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: black women. Focusing on small insignivitant stuff like that does

653
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: indeed living folks from being great.

654
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Yeah, Then for me when you said alienate

655
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: his audience, the thing about it is that Pharreal makes

656
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: music for everybody, not just black women.

657
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

658
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: That's the other thing that was weird is like people

659
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: were almost to the point where itsunding, like no white

660
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: women should be on the covers, like he not making

661
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: music only for black people, Like you don't pick up

662
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: a for Real album and go only black people can

663
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: understand this.

664
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 4: This is all black power, all everything.

665
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: His music has always been open to everybody, like he says,

666
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: I make music for everybody.

667
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 3: And it's one of.

668
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: Those things when, uh, if you think black women getting

669
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: mad is alienating his audience, that's that speaks more volume

670
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: on who you think he's marketing tom And it's just

671
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: one of those things where to me, he just did

672
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: his thing and people got offended. And them getting offended

673
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: is like I said before, larger than that album covered,

674
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: A lot of people would have got offended.

675
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 3: Regardless.

676
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: If he'd have had big women own it, it had been

677
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: an issue. If he'd have had darker women own it, it

678
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: had been an issue.

679
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 3: It wouldn't have mattered, he'd had his mama own it. It

680
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 3: had been an issue.

681
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: I think some people have already had problems with Pharrell

682
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: with that son and him and Robin Thick did and

683
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: they go, well, you make shit about.

684
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 3: Rape, and some of the people not.

685
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: Oh, some of the people probably never heard the album,

686
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: haven't listened to the album, an't even considering picking it up.

687
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 3: They would just outrage just to be outraged.

688
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the other thing is I don't think he

689
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: alienated his audience. No, I think the vast majority of

690
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 2: people don't care about this. I think people overestimate how

691
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: big a group the complainers on the internet are because

692
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: it's such are they're so loud, But there's such a

693
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: small group, you know what I mean. And the best

694
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: thing about the complaining people on the internet is they

695
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: will literally have something new to complain about within like

696
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 2: an hour of whatever the fuck was the cause today.

697
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: Especially if complaining is their thing. But some people just

698
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,479
Speaker 1: had that, particularly with this.

699
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, in general, this is

700
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: not your This generally the clear type of people that

701
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: make these complaints are not your audience.

702
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 3: No, they're not. Because they're not gonna take the time

703
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 3: to even find out.

704
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: And for a lot of those people once they once

705
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: they was like, oh y'all mad about ain't no black

706
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: women on that? And they ran with that and they

707
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: didn't hear nothing else nobody else had to say because

708
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: they just zoned everything past that point out.

709
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 7: Uh.

710
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 2: We had episode six eighty three, Loving Black Women, where

711
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: we had Saron Russel on and then we talked about

712
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: a bunch of different stuff.

713
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 4: I got a lot of.

714
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 2: Feedback on this episode on Twitter and Facebook and all

715
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 2: this stuff.

716
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 4: Man, glad we get Uh.

717
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, make people feel good, but a

718
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: lot of people said they were crying. So I'm glad

719
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,959
Speaker 2: we can make people. I'm glad they enjoyed it. They

720
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: were expressing appreciation one way or another.

721
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 4: And thank y'all.

722
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: Man, You know this is another reason now I think

723
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: is important that we have the new media to spread

724
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: our opinions because I don't feel that what we had

725
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: to say necessarily was extraordinary, but it doesn't get said

726
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: a lot.

727
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 4: And I feel like if we have more platforms maybe.

728
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: It would, yes, because a lot of times those opinions

729
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: and feelings are dismissed.

730
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: Shannon says, thank you for your discussion. On black love.

731
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: I really needed to hear this. I'm married to a

732
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: wonderful black man, but we definitely grew up seeing different

733
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 2: images of black love. My parents are married and work

734
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: through life, love, family, and hardships together. My husband's parents

735
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 2: divorced when he was very young. He grew up seeing fighting, blame, poverty,

736
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: and bitterness. We struggle a lot because I am very

737
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 2: structured and he is not. As a result, I am

738
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: usually tasked with the business portion of our marriage. We

739
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 2: also have a child, so my plate is beyond full.

740
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 2: I needed to hear Karen say that you have to

741
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 2: love a person where they are. I struggle with this.

742
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: I'm a very strong woman, but I'm human. I try

743
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: to be patient with my husband, but I also have

744
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: to take care of myself as well. He's so full

745
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: of hurt and bitterness from his childhood that MP's on

746
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: his adulthood. I try to help, but at the same time,

747
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: I'm looking at him like, come on, we have to

748
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 2: turn the page on this. Yeah, and you know it's

749
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: a thing line, but I definitely understand what you're saying,

750
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: where it's like, after a while, you're an adult and

751
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: those problems from childhood are now just adult problems that

752
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: you need to handle.

753
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 1: Yes, And that goes back to what I was saying before.

754
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: If it gets to a point where you get to

755
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: the point to where you go, okay, this is a

756
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: bigger issue. This is when I say sometimes people need

757
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 1: to get help outside of the marriage. But as general,

758
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: our culture do not believe they want do pray everything away.

759
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: Everything cannot be prayed the way. Sometimes people need outside

760
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: help and a lot of times when it comes to

761
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: a spouse, a lot a lot of times people look

762
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: at their spouse. Their spouse could say one thing, but

763
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: yet if they go to an outside entity or go

764
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: to hear it from it could be the same thing.

765
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 1: But if somebody else says it for some reason, it's it.

766
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: They comprehend it differently. And in addition.

767
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: To you you need, It's like sometimes you being their

768
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 1: only source of help. Sometimes it's a lot for one person,

769
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: and sometimes you need a community of people to help

770
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: people get beyond certain things in life. But in general

771
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: our community don't want to look at it like that.

772
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: But that's a true statement.

773
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 4: Yep, she says.

774
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: I try to find balance and toke the line between

775
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 2: being supportive but also not being walked over. Thank you

776
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: Karen and Rod for reminding me that I need to

777
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: love him through this and also that there is light

778
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 2: at the end of the tumbel. We have a beautiful

779
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: child and I know he's doing his best. He literally

780
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: has no blueprint. Thank you for your show. You keep

781
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: me saying throughout my week.

782
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 4: Love y'all. I love you too, Shannon, And good luck

783
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 4: with all that stuff.

784
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: Man, I know it could be challenging and whatnot, you know,

785
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: and uh yeah, it's you know, and that I think

786
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 2: sometimes too, we tend to look at people for their

787
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 2: flaws and mistakes and what they don't have, and forget

788
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: like everybody's in a constant state of change, for good

789
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: or bad, and the same way that you're not the

790
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: person that you were ten years ago, or you won't

791
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: be the same person ten years from now. Same thing

792
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: goes for everybody in a relationship, your husband, your child.

793
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 4: All that stuff. So hopefully y'all can develop together.

794
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 2: We also have a black Rob who said co sign

795
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: everything Rod said about the lack of love for black

796
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 2: women falling on black men.

797
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 4: Unlike Rob, my parents are divorced, but I never not.

798
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: Once heard my dad say an ill word too or

799
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 2: about my mom, nor did I ever see him disrespect

800
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: her in any way or any woman for that matter.

801
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: He loved her through divorce as a co parent, and

802
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 2: that always stuck with me. To be honest, I must

803
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: have been a little bit sheltered because I didn't even

804
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: realize that shitting on black women was much of a

805
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: thing as it is until I got on social media

806
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 2: a few years back. I was blown that there are

807
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 2: actually niggas out there who hate Black women as much

808
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: as they do. It really says more about them and

809
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 2: their insecurities than it says about Black women black men.

810
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: We have to teach our sons to love and respect

811
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 2: Black women and teach our daughters to love and respect themselves.

812
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 2: Our kids are watching the copy and every single thing

813
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: we do. Thank y'all for this discussion. It's definitely one

814
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: that we need to be having in the black community.

815
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 2: Thanks Black Girl, appreciate you. Let's see, we had pole

816
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: which was would you fight a bear if it tried

817
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: to run off with your husband's slash wife took that

818
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 2: woman down?

819
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 4: I like? I like that This pole was so silly

820
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 4: compared to the episode.

821
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 2: The other one was about for real and it was

822
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 2: all serious and shit anyway, Yes we in this together,

823
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 2: or know you're on your own?

824
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 4: Oh lord, very very close.

825
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: Vote yes it was, which says a lot about bears

826
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: in marriage. Fifty five percent of y'all would actually try

827
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 2: to fight the bear if it tried to run off

828
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: with your husband and wife. Forty five percent of y'all

829
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: was like, I'll go for out the paperwork.

830
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 5: Ha.

831
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 3: Houses, my rs children.

832
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 2: Prince Lauren says, a bear nigga please? I guess he

833
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 2: voted no suicide. Oh four Soldier said I would not

834
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 2: fight a bear, but I would get out my rifle

835
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: and shoot that mofo. Hopefully it's a high caliber, because

836
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 2: if not, you're just gonna piss it off. The casey

837
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: start said, I am I am supposed to die because

838
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: your ass wanted to go out there and give Winnie

839
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 2: the pool a talking to.

840
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 4: Some things just weren't meant to be fair.

841
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: It will be hard, but I would try to live

842
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: on for both of us.

843
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 4: The casey started.

844
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 3: Trying to give him some damn honey, come on.

845
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 4: Or ra boris a bear? Yo?

846
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 2: Even Wolverine left that big boy alone in the Last

847
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: Bad Movie, But like him, I would come back for

848
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: some revenge later on, with more than some hands and

849
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 2: some skin. Black Rob said, no reason for both of

850
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 2: us to die. I need to stay alive so I

851
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: could carry on your legacy best I can do. Once

852
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: a bear drags you away, I'll get your face tattooed

853
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 2: on my chest and your date of birth and date

854
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 2: of death under it.

855
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 4: Actually, now that I think.

856
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 2: About it, I'm not getting your face tattooed on me

857
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: because that might hinder me finding love after you go.

858
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: On second thought, I'll start a Twitter hashtag and your honor.

859
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 4: Keep it pushing. Don't trip though. The memories will live

860
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 4: on favo.

861
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 3: Because the Internet never forgets.

862
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

863
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 2: I wouldn't put your face on me either, because like,

864
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 2: what if that's the thing that the bear was attracted to?

865
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 4: Now, I got to watch my back.

866
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 3: You shall do.

867
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 4: We had some voicemails. Let's play those.

868
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 7: Hey, you're right there, it is out.

869
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 6: Let me make this quick. Yeah about that law Michigan saying.

870
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 7: People can't women can't live with their boyfriends. Yeah, I'm

871
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 7: gonna call it bullshit on that because if that was true.

872
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be born. Yeah, so we stop letting motherfuckers

873
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 5: from warrior laws. That's all I got to say.

874
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 7: Keep being off.

875
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 2: Karen later, all right, well, I think a lot of

876
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: those laws are just on the books with not being

877
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: at forced. Because the first couple of people wrote us like, hey,

878
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 2: you can suck a dick in Ohio. I know because

879
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: I've sucked several dicks, Like yeah, yeah, it's just against

880
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 2: the law.

881
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 3: It's not in Yeah, they ain't shooting people.

882
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 5: Hey, what's up, ron Karen? This is an over a soldier.

883
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 5: I was like to a quick clarification about the last episode,

884
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 5: and they're off, and they're off thirty two Karen saying

885
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 5: about coming by the peaceful cameras priced one hundred dollars

886
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 5: at one hundred dollars, that's not necessarily true. It's priced

887
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 5: at about sixty dollars. And that's before that's before with tax.

888
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 5: But uh, you know what I'm saying, seventy dollars a

889
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 5: game stop. That's only because game stop they want to

890
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 5: be assholes and charged in all the more because they

891
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 5: never listen how demand and the short supply tell fun

892
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 5: game stop again. But that's already half you guys, And uh,

893
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 5: and that's all but h's that it just trying.

894
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: I guess he just didn't know how to hang up

895
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 2: his phone. Hm, okay, all right, twelve I think that

896
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: was the ending, Thank you. Okay, quick correction, it was

897
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: sixty hundred all right, my bad. Don't be rounding up

898
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 2: every dollar count it does in the console war.

899
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 5: Hey, this is an old boy soldier again. I don't

900
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 5: know my my phone was tripping or something, but I

901
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 5: was just gonna play filing a nerdoff that you know,

902
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 5: the camera is not one hundred dollars.

903
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 4: Hey, we got it.

904
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 5: And and then the games stopped charging you seventy for

905
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 5: it because it's in the sort of flying how demands

906
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 5: the service, assholes. But uh, that's all already had to say.

907
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 5: One of the things, you guys ain't primum. All this

908
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 5: all tv GA nations, You gain't prim and missing out.

909
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 5: Please please sign up because it's really won everything, all

910
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 5: the content, you brains. So that's all I have. Take

911
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 5: it easy, rot and carry.

912
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 4: Thanks for soldier who will take it easy.

913
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 2: You know what's funny is you can buy a PlayStation

914
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: camera and then with the money left over that you

915
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 2: didn't use on the Xbox, you can come premium.

916
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 4: So just think about it that way. People, Next voicemail.

917
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 6: Better little Rod Caaran, This is Steven Richards out of Boulma.

918
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 6: How do how you guys did? I was well, I

919
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 6: was catching up in your shows and everything, and uh,

920
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 6: you know, I just hit that little nice little comment

921
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 6: from uh little brothers and about the considerate soldier give

922
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 6: it up and everything like that had the little brothers.

923
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 6: That was funny guy. That was a funny guy. But

924
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 6: but hey, hell name you know what it seems like

925
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,720
Speaker 6: to me. It seems like you're just out here doing

926
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 6: it for the vine or whatever or something like that.

927
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 6: I don't know what you do. Hey, man, are you mad?

928
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 5: Or no?

929
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 6: Okay? Are you a man? Oh? No, okay or something

930
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 6: like that. Hey, what's called with you? Man? Hey?

931
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 5: You know what?

932
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,479
Speaker 6: He's gonna come come for me. But I'll tell you what. Hey,

933
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 6: you say kind of scared to me, little brother Poliby

934
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 6: tell you you got a good reason to be scared

935
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 6: of your friend. You got a good reason to be

936
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 6: scared because Stephen Richard's have coming for you. Okay. I

937
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 6: ain't gonna stop. I ain't gonna stop him not slowing down. Hell,

938
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 6: I might even get a little a little more or ache,

939
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 6: if you know what I mean, hey guys, Hey Jared,

940
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 6: thank you guys for allowing us a platform to do

941
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 6: all this. But hey, they're just gonna keep going and

942
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 6: uh gotta damnit kill him. I'm a little bit disappointed.

943
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 6: I've got your surgery. Are gonna buy back up and

944
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 6: be regular people? Uh, I think that you're better than that. Okay,

945
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 6: I think you're better than that. And we can't let

946
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 6: the keyboard gainst your uh you know what they're doing

947
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 6: it the rider Northerner guy you know, imposes a keyboard

948
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 6: stroke so on on our slaves, if you understand what

949
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 6: I'm meaney, Hey, I think this guy is scared of us,

950
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 6: and I think that we deserve to take it to

951
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 6: one hundred percent. Take you. Hey, uh black guy who

952
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 6: took Nation. You gotta sat up a good one.

953
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: I think it damn lettle brothers, I mean, uh, little

954
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: brother got called out.

955
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 4: Steve Richards is out of blood man. Huh oh.

956
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: I don't know this collar beat thing is. It might

957
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 2: be heating up too much. And last voice when this

958
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: came during the show a scene, so.

959
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 7: Play this, Hey, how what's up? Fishing boy? Corey aka

960
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 7: particular out of me into and I'm just getting through

961
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 7: listening to Lapses show and between the Whiskey Wanted Moonshine,

962
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 7: we're gonna be heard about this stuff and then just

963
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 7: stop the love black women stuff. Y'all were on be

964
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 7: sload this week for real. I mean y'all, y'all really

965
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 7: putting in the work, y'all really telling people like it

966
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 7: is what it is and giving them that realness. And

967
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 7: I don't really call them much. I just want to

968
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 7: let y'all know, I really appreciate that. And for those

969
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 7: y'all out there that they ain't doing it on that

970
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 7: premium even if you don't listen to shit getty folks money,

971
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 7: let them do what they do because they're bringing y'all

972
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 7: that real talk, all right.

973
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 4: Peace peace, peace.

974
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: And that was Ladies Lunch, not Whiskey Moonshine, but we appreciate.

975
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 5: It, man.

976
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 3: Thanks every recent they had them too.

977
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a week ago, I believe.

978
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 2: Actually the Sunday before that was Whiskey Ony the moonshine

979
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 2: and then Ladies Lunch, so.

980
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 4: You know, both of them groups exactly.

981
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 5: Man.

982
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: We appreciate everybody for being on the shovel man, and uh,

983
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 2: those ladies for you know, coming in and uh bringing

984
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: bringing the audience with them, man. People love to hear them.

985
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: But yeah, uh, well thanks man. We try to keep

986
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 2: it real and have good, you know, conversations and stuff

987
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 2: that people aren't necessarily having other places. So if that's

988
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: one of the things people got from it, man, we're

989
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: always happy for that.

990
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 4: And of course, the last episode for.

991
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: The week was Them Thrones the King in Pie episode

992
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 2: six eighty four. We had Patricy and Justin Don't discussed

993
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: them Thrones. We had a couple of comments. Butterbean says,

994
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: a rape room with a track where the loved ones

995
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: can watch, y'all are going to give the producers some ideas.

996
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 4: When I see it, I will say they listen to

997
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 4: them Thrones.

998
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: Prince Lauren says, I was against the Michigan at first,

999
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 2: but she became one of my favorite people by the end.

1000
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 4: That statement moved me.

1001
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: The statement that moved me was the statement of concerning

1002
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 2: the rigor of high school courses. We all know what

1003
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 2: that means that if you are from a black high school,

1004
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: we can disregard how well you guys were spot on

1005
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: on how furnive action has been framed by the majority

1006
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: of the population. Colleges are now turning away exceptional white

1007
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 2: students from mediocre black students.

1008
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sorry colleges are not are now.

1009
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 2: I was gonna say what colleges are not turned away

1010
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 2: exceptional white students from mediocre black students. Nope, there's nothing

1011
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 2: on earth pure than white male failure. If you are

1012
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 2: a white man, you didn't get something that you really

1013
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 2: didn't deserve. That shit, all right, Thanks Prince Lauran, And

1014
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 2: the poe was do you think Cobert would be good

1015
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 2: at late night TV?

1016
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 4: Yes, he's going to kill it. No, he's going to

1017
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 4: blow it.

1018
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't watch it either way. Yes,

1019
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 2: he's gonna kill it. Thirty five percent of people think

1020
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 2: Cobert is gonna make a great late night TV show host. Uh,

1021
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 2: three percent think he's gonna be bad, and sixty two

1022
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 2: percent of people ain't gonna watch that shit either way,

1023
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 2: So who cares. Prince Lawn says he already stated that

1024
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 2: he is not doing the characters, so I have no interest,

1025
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 2: and or Board says the only reason people watched the

1026
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 2: Late Show in the first place was because of Letterman.

1027
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: But Corbert is just another nerdy white dude with nothing special.

1028
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: I don't know anyone under forty who watches it now anyway. Yeah,

1029
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 2: I just don't know people that watch it honestly, so

1030
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 2: you know, it's probably just not my purview. And I'm

1031
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: sure the people that do watch those shows will continue

1032
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 2: to enjoy that stuff. Mr Span writes an email or

1033
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: by the way, phone lines though it's seven oh four

1034
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: five five seven zero one eight six seven oh four

1035
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: five five seven zero one eighty six.

1036
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 4: We got this email from Mr Span says nineties R

1037
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 4: and B.

1038
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 2: So I was listening to you guys at work yesterday,

1039
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 2: and I must tell you, y'all have me cracking up

1040
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 2: with the nineties R and B conversation.

1041
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 4: That's my favorite music.

1042
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 2: But them group tropes is real fam and just about

1043
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 2: all the groups, whether they had three niggas or five niggas,

1044
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 2: only one or two of them actually did most of

1045
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 2: the singing, with the occasional falsetto screen from one of

1046
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: the background dudes shout out to Nockio from Drew Hill,

1047
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 2: Tweat from next, the dark skinnednigga from he Town, and

1048
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 2: countless other cats that have just filled out the group

1049
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 2: so they could make those dance routines work. Yes, then,

1050
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 2: some of the songs just didn't make any sense at all.

1051
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 2: Take New Addition, for instance, On there You're Not My

1052
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 2: kind of Girl song, these niggas were essentially talking about

1053
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 2: how bad the chicks. This chick was sorry, you're not

1054
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 2: my kind of girl, but you're the kind of girl

1055
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: that a man's dreams are made of. What kind of

1056
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 2: confusing messages that to send out to the ladies. Ah,

1057
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 2: niggas that banged this song raised sons that now call

1058
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 2: women thoughts.

1059
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 3: Oh lord.

1060
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure everyone over thirty remembers the one hit

1061
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 2: Wonder smoking Steph with the side chick national anthem He's Mine,

1062
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 2: with such sage wisdom being dropped on the lines like

1063
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 2: he might be doing you what he's thinking about me?

1064
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 2: This shit dropped, and the generation of home records were born. Man,

1065
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: and what about a group the group Silk Before they

1066
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 2: were having meetings in bedrooms, they was trying to fuck

1067
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 2: their way through the apologies. The song Lose Control was

1068
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 2: definitely some smooth shit. But after listening to that shit

1069
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,240
Speaker 2: a good fourteen two hundred sixty nine times, I'm sure

1070
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: I'm still trying to figure out what the fuck is

1071
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 2: this dude?

1072
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 4: Apologize it for right, you never know.

1073
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 3: For anything like girl, I just I let you.

1074
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 4: Down, like what did you do?

1075
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 2: And now the thinks asking for some ass right now

1076
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 2: is gonna rectify that situation.

1077
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 3: It always does, doesn't it.

1078
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1079
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 2: Baby, I know I made you crying all but I'm sorry.

1080
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: What's up with that ass though?

1081
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 4: Lol?

1082
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 2: But I do blame the Light Skin Caddy group for

1083
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: paving away for these new niggas to sing like someone

1084
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 2: that squeezing their nuts and vice crips.

1085
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 4: Man, I can't. I could go on and all, but

1086
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 4: I don't want to tie.

1087
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 2: Up the show. Love the show, fair peace. Thanks listening

1088
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 2: to missus span, Thank you, Michael Rising. I just want

1089
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 2: to say wow, I'm listening to It's Aid episode four

1090
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 2: sixty three. If everybody knows, we're on episode like six

1091
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 2: eighty five or.

1092
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 4: Something right now.

1093
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 2: So I just wanted to let you say wow. I'm

1094
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 2: listening to you and Karen's speeches. As a person raised

1095
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 2: without the example, I completely agree it takes a lot

1096
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 2: of time to build up all the things one is missing.

1097
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 2: You two got me all fucked up. I just started

1098
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 2: dating this black woman. Y'all got me by ready to propose,

1099
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 2: and we just met.

1100
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: Hey.

1101
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 2: I wasn't saying just rush out and propose to all

1102
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 2: the black women. I mean, get to know them, you know, individually.

1103
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: I'm going to have a to avoid talking to her.

1104
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: Ntil I come back down. Keep up the good work.

1105
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 2: I love the show, and I said, you must be

1106
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 2: messed up episode forour sixty three.

1107
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 4: He said, my bad, I'm at six eighty three.

1108
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 3: Oh I'm about to say. I know some people do that.

1109
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: They'd be like, I'm gonna leave this even though I

1110
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 1: know I'm not gonna here for twenty weeks.

1111
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go ahead and leave mine, you know, leave my

1112
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 3: comments now.

1113
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 2: You say, anyway, great episode, keep up to good work.

1114
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 2: We will Mike, thanks you, Chris says, this is Chris

1115
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 2: from Hawaii, Rod and Karen Aloha from the eight O

1116
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 2: Waight State. I had every I had every intention of

1117
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 2: calling in for last week's feedback, but unfortunately my voice

1118
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 2: is too harde for it to have been a meaningful conversation.

1119
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 2: That said, I wanted to sit shout out to you

1120
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: and the TBGWT nation for being a constant source of

1121
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 2: quality entertainment and diversion. A couple of weeks ago, I

1122
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 2: went into the doctor for a routine appointment that later

1123
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 2: that night, I was being admitted due to some issues

1124
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 2: with some tests that was believed to be a six

1125
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 2: centimeter tumorous mass on the head of my pancreas this

1126
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 2: was just before bedtime. The next day. This was dispelled

1127
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 2: following the cat stand, but they had me over another

1128
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: day for more tests. During the entire period I was

1129
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 2: in bed in the oncology department listening to the far

1130
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 2: to people far sicker than I was, struggling to breathe,

1131
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: deal with constant pain and go from independent to totally

1132
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 2: dependent on others for their care. During that time, I

1133
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 2: must have gone back and listened to twenty or more

1134
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 2: episodes of the show on my iPod, which I luckily

1135
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 2: had with me all throughout the days and nights, You

1136
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 2: and Karen and the chat Room with my soundtrack, giving

1137
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 2: me continuous stream of comedy throughout, thoughtful, introspective and above

1138
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 2: all crtchetness. Yes, you guys made an unpleasant life event

1139
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: more bearable. And although I did have friends stop by,

1140
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 2: you Caring and the black Out to the Nation were

1141
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 2: with me constantly diverting my attention, making me laughing in

1142
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 2: one instance, bringing me to tears when Rod spoke from

1143
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 2: the heart regarding the senseless death of Adaia Pendleton and

1144
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 2: his own frustration regarding violence in Chicago. Yeah, all this

1145
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: to say that if y'all ever get to thinking all

1146
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: you do is run your mouth on the podcast, piss

1147
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,760
Speaker 2: people off, make them laugh, make them think. Please remember

1148
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: that end and of itself is an accomplishment, and I

1149
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 2: thank you for it.

1150
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 4: So thank you, Chris.

1151
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 2: I'm glad that he said it was the spell falling

1152
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 2: cat staying, so I'm assuming that he's okay now, I

1153
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 2: hope so, I hopefully everything's good with you man, and

1154
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 2: you know, get better soon, yes, sir, And if we

1155
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 2: can be any part of taking your mind off of

1156
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 2: negativity or anything you're dealing with, then we're always.

1157
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 3: Happy, amplished, you know.

1158
00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 4: Episode six eighty three from Damien Jackson. What up, fam.

1159
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 2: It's been a minute since I corresponded with my favorite cast,

1160
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 2: but I just had to speak on this one, Rod

1161
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 2: and Carron. This is one of the best six hundred

1162
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 2: plus of the six hundred plus episodes, and I'm truly

1163
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 2: proud to be a fan. I listened to this cast

1164
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 2: numerous times before I could get to this together.

1165
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 4: But I did.

1166
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 2: Nonetheless, also, a lot of strong brother had tilts.

1167
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 4: This right, can't be crying.

1168
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 2: This podcast touched me on so many levels because I

1169
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 2: grew up in a single parent home with a mother

1170
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 2: that I saw struggling to make it so me and

1171
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 2: my sills could just get an opportunity to make it.

1172
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 2: Sorry for the length, fan, but it touched me away

1173
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 2: as I've never been by a podcast.

1174
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 4: I love you, guys, I will continue to support forever. PS.

1175
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 2: My college student daughter wanted me to tell you, guys,

1176
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 2: you have a new fan.

1177
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 4: Oh that's what's up. She heard the cast with me

1178
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 4: and one more thing. Shout out to Brett.

1179
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 2: I have an answer for any young brother out there,

1180
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 2: or someone asked you why do you love bla black women?

1181
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 2: I always respond, how could you not? Thanks guys, no

1182
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 2: doubt man, Thanks Damien man. We appreciate you, Broh and

1183
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 2: welcome to your daughter as a new fan show and

1184
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 2: I'm gladuated to She was like, you know, college age,

1185
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 2: you know, we do get quite.

1186
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 4: Quite ridiculous.

1187
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 2: It was really indefensible. Other than saying you're old enough

1188
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 2: to know better, and that's what we can say. We

1189
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,240
Speaker 2: can turn around to her and go you old enough

1190
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 2: to know you shouldn't be.

1191
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 4: Listening to this shit.

1192
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 2: Yes, black women, this is by Shaka, She says, Dear

1193
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 2: Rod and hello Karen.

1194
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 4: Well, that is a first.

1195
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 2: She always writes in Dear Karen and Rod, Well, hope

1196
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 2: I don't get cussed out. Oh, you gotta be careful

1197
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 2: with since the star being like, let me talk to

1198
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 2: you first missed a man like, Oh, I don't know

1199
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen. I know you wanted to let this go,

1200
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,919
Speaker 2: but I wanted to say thanks for expressing your love

1201
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 2: for black women on the show.

1202
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, but it's gonna be a good Yeah. I

1203
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 4: like this.

1204
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 2: My parents have been married for thirty one years, and

1205
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 2: I learned so much because of the way my father

1206
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 2: loved my mom. Even though I'm queer and gender roles

1207
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,959
Speaker 2: matter less in my relationships, I still believe I learned

1208
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 2: that I deserve nothing less than respect in life from

1209
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 2: watching my parents. My father loving my mother as a

1210
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 2: black woman gave me the strength, not the crumble under

1211
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 2: all the pressure put on black women. It wasn't until

1212
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 2: later in life that I understood that what my love meant.

1213
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 4: To black men.

1214
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 2: Even black male friends of mine are appreciative of the

1215
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 2: unconditional love that I give them, especially because I know

1216
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 2: what they are.

1217
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 4: Up against too, right, Yeah, we were like that.

1218
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 2: That's the thing, man, Like, You're not gonna find other

1219
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 2: people that completely understand what culturally we're up against.

1220
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 4: You just not, you know what I mean. I'm not

1221
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 4: saying people need.

1222
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 2: To restrict their romantic relationships and all this, because I

1223
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 2: think a lot of people take that extra leap and

1224
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 2: I'm not ready to do that. I would, you know,

1225
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 2: I wouldn't suggest it, But I think the disrespect towards

1226
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 2: someone else that at least understands you is an internal

1227
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 2: dismissal of the problems you have with yourself anyway, Yes,

1228
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

1229
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, And even when people date people and married people

1230
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: outside of the race, that person still needs to have

1231
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: an understanding for the culture.

1232
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm yeah, I agree, But I'm not even

1233
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 2: talking about that. I'm just saying, like, when people are

1234
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 2: disrespectful towards black women, Okay, I think it's almost like

1235
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 2: you're disrespectful towards someone that's.

1236
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 4: Seen you naked.

1237
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 2: Yes, it's like, well you know what I look like.

1238
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 2: You know what I'm up against? You know, me, and

1239
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 2: I don't want to be around someone that knows me

1240
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 2: so well or you know, I'm ashamed of these certain

1241
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 2: things and I'm ashamed of ate them up against and

1242
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 2: what I have to do every day, and I can't

1243
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 2: live with you knowing that. So it's very I don't know.

1244
00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of deep layers to the

1245
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 2: shit that's just bigger than you know. These dudes are

1246
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 2: like white women is the best and shit like that,

1247
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 2: or you know, right, which is it's so than the

1248
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 2: white women as well.

1249
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 4: Yes, you know, it's just it's just a dumb thing

1250
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 4: to say.

1251
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 2: But anyway, I think in a lot of ways, black

1252
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 2: women don't know what power they have in their love

1253
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 2: and we can't always accept love. I wouldn't put all

1254
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 2: the pressure on black men, this is just my opinion,

1255
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 2: but there seems to be something that happened in the

1256
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 2: last generation. They cause a rip between Black men and women.

1257
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 2: I don't know why that happened, but I feel like

1258
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 2: it happened at a great cost to our community.

1259
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, and I.

1260
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 2: Like, I definitely don't put all the pressure on men,

1261
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 2: but I just feel like it's kind of like the

1262
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 2: rape discussion when people blame women so much when pretty

1263
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 2: much the only speech you ever hear is don't drink,

1264
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 2: don't wear certain clothes, don't go certain places, and it

1265
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: completely takes up the other party off the hook.

1266
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 4: I hear that with a lot.

1267
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 2: Of the gender wars between men and women, with black

1268
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 2: men and black women, a whole lot of we got

1269
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 2: a ton of shit to say to these sisters, and

1270
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 2: anything you bring up about black.

1271
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 4: Men need to do better just gets dismissed, yes, very quickly,

1272
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 4: you know.

1273
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 2: And that's why I was like, I'd rather speak on that,

1274
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 2: because you know, I'm not a woman. I can't really

1275
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 2: speak exactly to what women have to go through.

1276
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 4: But I can't.

1277
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 2: I do know what niggas go through, and I do

1278
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 2: know what the fuck like I've heard from my personal

1279
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 2: experience and the conversations I've had, and that shit is destructive, man,

1280
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 2: and we have to fucking do better, and we and

1281
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 2: if we don't, like especially so many of these dudes

1282
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 2: believe in that king and queen shit.

1283
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 4: They believe the man.

1284
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 2: Is the patriarch of the household and he's gonna, you know,

1285
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 2: be the leader and all this shit. Well, if you

1286
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 2: if you really believe that then be an example. Don't

1287
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 2: just say that conveniently when you want to tell a

1288
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 2: woman is shut up. That's the only time you get

1289
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 2: to be a king. Be a king when you're supposed

1290
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 2: to make all the tough decisions. Be a king when

1291
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 2: you're gonna be faithful to your wife, Be a king

1292
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 2: when you're gonna raise your children, Be a king when

1293
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 2: you're gonna go to work every day, Be a king

1294
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 2: when you're gonna not let your women be disrespected in

1295
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 2: your presence.

1296
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 4: Like that that shit, like when why can't you be

1297
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:22,439
Speaker 4: a king?

1298
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 5: Then?

1299
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 2: You know, like why why does it always have to

1300
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 2: you know, why does it always have to be someone

1301
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 2: else's fault that you can't step up to be a

1302
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 2: leader if that's what you're gonna espouse.

1303
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 4: And a lot of these dudes do a spouse that.

1304
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 2: Logic, you know, So you know, it's it's very it's

1305
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 2: very weird and contradictory to me. But yeah, I feel

1306
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 2: like I don't know when it happened, when this rift started,

1307
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 2: but it seems to have gotten worse in my lifetime

1308
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 2: and it's completely seems out of control. I don't know

1309
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 2: how to fix it, but I just know you know

1310
01:01:55,440 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 2: somebody should speak about it, and I know had been

1311
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 2: it seems, so I'll be the person to speak about it.

1312
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 2: And you don't have to work. I don't want shit

1313
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 2: from you. I don't want to book a deal, I

1314
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 2: don't want a relationship podcast, I don't want to whatever

1315
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 2: you know. I don't want your tie money. I just

1316
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 2: literally this is just how I feel. So I wanted

1317
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 2: to echo Old Rod's passion for the issue of love

1318
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 2: between black men and women.

1319
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 4: We've got to figure this out.

1320
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 2: The other thing I learned from my parents is that

1321
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 2: because we are up against so much as black people,

1322
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 2: it takes work to love each other. I feel like

1323
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 2: what Rod is saying is that black women are worth

1324
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 2: to work. And it's beautiful that my parents have grown

1325
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 2: and change together. So I don't have any illusions about

1326
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 2: what my life is supposed to be. Like yeah, and

1327
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 2: not just are they worth to work forget about just

1328
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,919
Speaker 2: like as a black woman, like how you feel about

1329
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 2: this one particular woman or whatever. Is your child worth

1330
01:02:56,080 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 2: to work? Because your child is absorbing this. This is

1331
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 2: what kids to see. These are the examples. This is

1332
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 2: why these kids are fucked up.

1333
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 5: Man.

1334
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 2: And when you talk to kid and You're just like

1335
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 2: this little motherfucker has no chance because they've only seen

1336
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,919
Speaker 2: fucked up relationships, you know what I mean, Like we

1337
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 2: do have some sort of responsibility to pass that down.

1338
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 2: If you're gonna have kids, you know what I mean.

1339
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,919
Speaker 2: If you're going to have a child, don't you want

1340
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 2: them to have the best of life, because you might

1341
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 2: not be able to have the best As far as

1342
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 2: buying somebody some Jordan's or Xbox one or Big TV

1343
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 2: or a fucking tablet. That shit is all, you know,

1344
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 2: materialistic shit. But everybody can do their best to be

1345
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 2: an example of how you can love and respect each other. Yes,

1346
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 2: give that kid something to go off of when they

1347
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 2: become grown and they can go I know what a

1348
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 2: bad relationship is because I know what a good one is.

1349
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 2: So I don't want to be stuck in any of

1350
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 2: these bullshit relationships because I know this isn't gonna work,

1351
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 2: and I know early because this is not how you

1352
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 2: talk to somebody you respect.

1353
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 4: This is not how you treat someone you respect, This

1354
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 4: is not how you know.

1355
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 2: This is not a level of bullshit that anyone I

1356
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 2: know would deal with. So I'm the fuck out of here,

1357
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 2: Like I feel like that is missing, and then we

1358
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 2: end up with a lot of negative emotions towards each

1359
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 2: other because we dealt with so much shit. You know,

1360
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 2: It's like sometimes, you know, sometimes you just need to

1361
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 2: be able to say, like, oh wait, I know what

1362
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 2: this is supposed to look like, and this ain't it.

1363
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 2: I'm out, you know, rather than having trial and error

1364
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 2: so often, you know, we have a little less a

1365
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 2: little less, we have a lot a lot less margin

1366
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 2: for error, so we kind of it's imperative that we

1367
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 2: get this. You know, what a lucky man you are

1368
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 2: to have such a great mother and wife, and as

1369
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 2: a woman, it was so great to hear about the intergeneration,

1370
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 2: intergenerational relationship between Karen and your mother. I know the

1371
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 2: show is mostly about Joe's because nothing's wrong with it's funny,

1372
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 2: but whenever I, as a fan of the show, get

1373
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 2: to hear about your experience and genuine emotions, I value it.

1374
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 2: So thanks for that gift, your fan and internet friend, Shana, Well,

1375
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 2: thank you, thank.

1376
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: You, sweetie. And it's something that I've learned and I

1377
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 1: never realized how how wonderful my relationship with your mother

1378
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: and father and brother. Sometimes I think that that's an

1379
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 1: exception to the rules. Because so many people talk about

1380
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: how they can't stand and they don't like and they

1381
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,919
Speaker 1: constantly fall out. I've never had to experience that because

1382
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 1: they they have literally embraced me more than some of

1383
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: my own family have.

1384
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 4: M hm, yeah, I think you know. One of the

1385
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 4: things I do believe in is kind of choosing your

1386
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 4: own family.

1387
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, just because we're Yeah, just because we

1388
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 2: were got the same bloodline really doesn't mean anything to me.

1389
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 4: I try to go out of how people treat me and.

1390
01:05:56,360 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 2: Vice versa feedback by Eric, he says, just recently listened

1391
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 2: to the episode on Loving Black Women, and just like

1392
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 2: all other episodes, it was really good being raised by

1393
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 2: my grandmother with the help of two aunts after my

1394
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 2: mother passed. I definitely agree with you about loving those

1395
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 2: who truly first loved me. Now, while I'm pretty sure

1396
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 2: everything you said about Karen being thoughtful, considered, compassionate, reasonable

1397
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 2: understanding is completely true, I still found it hard not

1398
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 2: to laugh. All I could think about was the story

1399
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 2: you told about a few weeks ago about her leaving

1400
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 2: her clothes on the floor and how you thought a

1401
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 2: good way to fish that was to put the hamper

1402
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 2: under the covers on our side of the bed. I just

1403
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 2: want to know how compassionate and reasonable she was when

1404
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:35,439
Speaker 2: she was about to choke your ass out.

1405
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 4: She was very She would have she would have.

1406
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 2: Done that choking out in a very compassionate, reasonable passion love.

1407
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 4: I thought it was very obvious.

1408
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 2: You can't have compassionate without passion, and murder is nothing

1409
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 2: if not a crime of passion.

1410
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 4: Uh my man. Aaron Wright saying feedback for this week's shows.

1411
01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 2: Hey, family, been wiping up spit spit of getting an

1412
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 2: hour of sleep and holding my little terrorists. I had

1413
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 2: some time to catch up on your shows. First up,

1414
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 2: the show with the Ladies launch was amazing. Yes I'm

1415
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 2: a tab bit biased, but those women are awesome. In

1416
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 2: the conversation you all had was a clinic about how

1417
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 2: a discussion should go.

1418
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the thing I was saying about.

1419
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 2: Like Corey's feedback too, was like I was proud of

1420
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 2: that discussion because I felt like maybe everybody didn't walk

1421
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 2: away agreeing or not. You know, I think a lot

1422
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 2: more common ground was reached than not. But I enjoyed

1423
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 2: talking to them because even if we didn't agree, it

1424
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 2: didn't become a shouting match. It didn't become everybody disrespecting

1425
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 2: each other like it was just a discussion. You know,

1426
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, Pharrell ain't listening to

1427
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 2: this show, so you know, it's not like he gonna go, oh,

1428
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 2: I see what y'all saying. So so, so there's no

1429
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 2: reason to have hostility or whatever.

1430
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 4: And I was really proud of that.

1431
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 2: And like I said, they were people I picked to

1432
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 2: talk about that with because I was like, they'll have

1433
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 2: a perspective on it that's valid, and it'll be cool

1434
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 2: to see somebody else, you know, give their opinion that

1435
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 2: can be respectful even if they don't agree.

1436
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 4: So that mattered to me.

1437
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 2: Next show I had a chance to listen to was

1438
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:26,719
Speaker 2: Them Damn was the Them Thrones? Y'all are damn mazing.

1439
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 2: I stopped watching Them Thrones last season. I'm fully caught

1440
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 2: up things to you all. I double back and listening

1441
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 2: to Around Russell show, and damn it, I forgot how

1442
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 2: funny he is.

1443
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 4: If he ever comes to Kentucky, I'm there.

1444
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 2: And finally, it might be pretty controversial, but I love

1445
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 2: Black women, So The Love Black Women's Show might be

1446
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 2: my favorite this year to hear the passion behind your

1447
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 2: words was inspiring. I know that you didn't want to

1448
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 2: seem like you were judging other people for their views

1449
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 2: and actions, but sometimes maybe they need to be judged.

1450
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 2: You have my full support, even though you're not asking

1451
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 2: for it. Karen, as a man who just had a daughter,

1452
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 2: I can't imagine what you went through a little black girl.

1453
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 2: You made me realize that whatever I think is enough,

1454
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 2: I need to do two times more. Thank you for

1455
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 2: your share for Thank you for sharing and being an

1456
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:12,759
Speaker 2: outspoken force. They're the most powerful thing in the world.

1457
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 2: Oh they say, the most out powerful thing in the

1458
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 2: world is a black woman's voice, and you proved it anyway.

1459
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 4: Thank you all. Thank you for all you do.

1460
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 2: Keep making quality, thought provoking content and you have the

1461
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 2: support your all and you have the support of your

1462
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 2: own piece.

1463
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 4: Well, thank you.

1464
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 2: Aaron aka Ashley three Classic on Black Astronaut's podcast, and yeah, man,

1465
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 2: go out there and try to raise daughter. But we

1466
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 2: were Yeah, like I think that we did have a

1467
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 2: lot of important shit that guests said. And like I said,

1468
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 2: I don't want to judge people personally because you know,

1469
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 2: I don't think it's fair almost in a way like

1470
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 2: I've been very fortunate and blessed and lucky to have

1471
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 2: the upbringing I have, and I don't know how I

1472
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 2: would have been in other circumstances. So I don't like

1473
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 2: to be one of those people. I know other people

1474
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 2: do it a lot, a whole lot, but I don't

1475
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 2: want to be one of those people that's like, uh,

1476
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 2: you got daddy issues, like you ain't got you know, you,

1477
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,719
Speaker 2: this is what happened when you have fatherless child or something,

1478
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 2: you know, Like, I don't like those people. I think

1479
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 2: people shouldn't throw that ship up as some mark up

1480
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 2: because one, you ain't got shit to do with having

1481
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 2: a father or not having a father. It ain't It

1482
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 2: ain't no decision you made that that made your parents

1483
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 2: be in your life.

1484
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 4: You either get lucky quote unquote or you don't.

1485
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 2: You know, some people have terrible parents and there maybe

1486
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:37,719
Speaker 2: they're worse off for having them in their lives.

1487
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1488
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 2: But what I don't want to do is pray on

1489
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 2: people's insecurity, the mean people that have different upbringings than

1490
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 2: I did, or any of that ship, because I feel

1491
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 2: like it's destructive. It really is, and it really takes

1492
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 2: away from the point. So that's the reason I don't

1493
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 2: really talk about it a lot. I just feel very

1494
01:10:57,960 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 2: fortunate and whatnot.

1495
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 4: But also I don't want I feel like.

1496
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 2: Judging somebody for a decision they made because they didn't

1497
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 2: really have the complete picture of the impact that these

1498
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 2: things have on other people and on themselves isn't really fair. No,

1499
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, So like they don't. It's like,

1500
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:31,679
Speaker 2: if you don't know that the part of the reason

1501
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 2: you're running around saying white women are the best and

1502
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 2: sisters be hating or whatever the fuck part of the.

1503
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 4: Reason you're saying something that ignorant is.

1504
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 2: That you didn't have this love in your life, and

1505
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 2: that is going to affect you on such a basic level.

1506
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 2: Me even bringing that up is gonna be almost be

1507
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 2: an insult to you, you know what I mean. Where

1508
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 2: it's like I get that you're lashing out, but you're

1509
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 2: lashing out for all the wrong reasons, and I don't

1510
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 2: even think you know why, you know what I mean,

1511
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 2: Like when you say something that ignorant, like you don't

1512
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 2: even know why the fuck you're saying this ignorant shit.

1513
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 2: You just think that this is some cool shit to say,

1514
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 2: and you know, like I said, I try not to judge,

1515
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 2: because I really do feel like it's a failure that

1516
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 2: is bigger than individual people. It's a failure like as

1517
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 2: a community, as a culture, as a race, and the

1518
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 2: only people that can fix.

1519
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 7: It is us.

1520
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 2: No, nobody's gonna come in and fix this. Government can't

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Speaker 2: fix this. A thousand speechers from the president won't fix

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Speaker 2: fix fix this.

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01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 4: Uh, the church can't fix this.

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01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 2: Is really just gonna take a collective effort from a

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01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 2: lot of people that uh need, are gonna have to

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01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 2: break the cycle. My father broke the cycle for my family,

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01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,680
Speaker 2: and I'm thankful for it, you know, And I hope that,

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01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 2: you know, other people find the courage to be like, yeah,

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01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna break that cycle for

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01:12:58,120 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 2: for for my family.

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01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 4: We're gonna say something, I'm sorry.

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01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 1: And also I think that a lot of times when

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01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 1: people go through life, they only look at life through

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01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 1: their eyes, which is you're supposed to but you can't downplay,

1535
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 1: and you can't dismiss, and you can't disregard, and you

1536
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 1: can't act like somebody else's pain and somebody else's hurt

1537
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 1: is not valid because it's something that you personally have

1538
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 1: never experienced and that's why those people go, well you

1539
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 1: got daddy issues, Well, you got both parents, you came

1540
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 1: from a love and background, you had a family nucleus,

1541
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 1: so your experience is different than mine. And I think

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01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,639
Speaker 1: that people do that as a way of not having

1543
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 1: sympathy and empathy and a way to separate themselves out

1544
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 1: of the situation because they feel like, well, I don't

1545
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 1: have to deal with it.

1546
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 3: You have to deal with it. You figure it out

1547
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 3: on your own, versus.

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01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 1: Coming as a collective group and trying to fix the

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01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 1: problems as a unit. And also before we leave, I

1550
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 1: want to think, especially on Twitter a lot of I've

1551
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 1: had several people DM me to tell me their point

1552
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:03,720
Speaker 1: of vieusing perspect.

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01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 4: Hold up, I'm jealous, go ahead to tell me was it?

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01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know. I can just tell you're based

1555
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 1: off the abbas I checked later, Okay. I wanted to

1556
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 1: tell them thank you for just sharing their experience with

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01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 1: me and telling me that they can relate to the

1558
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 1: things I was going through. And you know, they've had

1559
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 1: mentally ill parents and things like that. So it's just

1560
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 1: one of those things where we do this and we

1561
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 1: have an audience, and just that connection, to me is

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01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 1: what makes this show great to me, to know that

1563
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 1: regardless of what you're going through, that you're not alone

1564
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 1: and there are other people that have had the same experiences.

1565
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: And it's just one of those things where we're we

1566
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 1: have kind of our own even even though we have

1567
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 1: different racist creeds and colors that listen, but you know,

1568
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 1: we've kind of built our own black community in our

1569
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: own family, and we're here to love and support each other.

1570
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,599
Speaker 1: And to me, it makes a difference when I share

1571
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 1: my story and I know that I'm not the only one,

1572
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 1: you know.

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01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 3: It lets me know that the things that I went through.

1574
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 1: My life and my joys and my happiness and my

1575
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: sadness and things, they're not in vain and the other

1576
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 1: people can relate to it too. And I feel like

1577
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't share their stories for whatever reason,

1578
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 1: but you will be amazed. And if you just share

1579
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 1: something that you've been through, you can help somebody else

1580
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 1: get through it because if they see that you made

1581
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 1: it to the other side, they know they can.

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01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 4: Too, no doubt.

1583
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 5: Man.

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01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 2: Well, there's been another episode of Blackout tips we may

1585
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 2: or may not be back tomorrow. It is Easter and

1586
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,919
Speaker 2: it's a holiday. Yes it is, and our boss typically

1587
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 2: gives us the day off, so I'm assuming we won't

1588
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 2: be back but Monday. We should be back Tuesday, of

1589
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 2: course them Thrones and I don't wait, is there even

1590
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:49,600
Speaker 2: a Game of Thrones tomorrow?

1591
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 1: Like?

1592
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 4: Do they have one on Easter? I have to look

1593
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 4: into that.

1594
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 2: And then Wednesday, at a very special prime time edition

1595
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 2: of the show at nine, we're supposed to have on

1596
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 2: the ratch of hatchets, Just and Josh. So we'll be

1597
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 2: back next week guys. Hopefully you guys stick around until then.

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Speaker 4: I love you.