WEBVTT - Jennifer Deluca: The Woman Making Sure No Veteran Heals Alone

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<v Speaker 1>Bushkin.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey everyone, it's j R. Martinez on Medal of Honor.

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<v Speaker 2>We talk a lot about what our service men and

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<v Speaker 2>women do overseas, but we spend less time talking about

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<v Speaker 2>what happens when they come home. Some troops come home wounded.

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<v Speaker 2>They need a series of surgeries, cancer treatments, long term

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<v Speaker 2>medical care, and they can spend weeks to months to

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<v Speaker 2>years in hospitals and cities far from their homes. And

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<v Speaker 2>during that period they need a place to stay, but

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<v Speaker 2>that can cost a fortune, making it almost impossible for

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<v Speaker 2>them to receive the care that they need. That's where

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<v Speaker 2>Jennifer Duluca comes in. For fifteen years, Jen has been

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<v Speaker 2>running Fisherhouse Boston, a branch of the Fisher House Foundation.

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<v Speaker 2>She pioneered a program that works with local hotels to

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<v Speaker 2>get veterans and their families the housing they need and

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't cost a vet a dime. In twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>Jen was awarded the Citizen Honors Service Act Award. It's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the highest honors as civilian can receive, selected

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<v Speaker 2>by WHO recipients of the Medal of Honor. I sat

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<v Speaker 2>down with Jen to talk about her incredible work with

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<v Speaker 2>our nation's veterans and their families. And while I learned

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<v Speaker 2>she's been a fan of some of my work. More importantly,

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<v Speaker 2>she learned I'm a huge fan of hers.

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<v Speaker 1>Jin Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, thank you. How are you, Jr?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm well, how are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Good? Good? I can't believe I'm talking to Jesse's son

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<v Speaker 3>from General Hospital. All our sun in line from all

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<v Speaker 3>those years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 3>That's been my big joke with all my girlfriends. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>you have no idea who I'm talking dude.

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<v Speaker 1>That is hilarious. I've never had anyone say it like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Now listen. Then we're going to be straight up here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we're all about being vulnerable with each other and we're friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Now right, you're a little nervous. Why are you a

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<v Speaker 2>little nervous?

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<v Speaker 3>I just hate talking about myself, and you know I'm shy.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm shy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the good thing is we are wanting to get

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<v Speaker 2>to know you, but also the incredible work that you

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<v Speaker 2>do at the Fisher House and for the listeners, can

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<v Speaker 2>you describe what the Fisher House is and what it does?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, the Fisher House is a home away from home

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<v Speaker 3>for military families when a loved one is ill or injured.

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<v Speaker 3>There are one hundred Fisher Houses across the country right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Fisher House Boston provides free lodging to military families that

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<v Speaker 3>are coming to Boston to receive medical care.

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<v Speaker 2>What's a typical case of someone you've helped, meaning from

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<v Speaker 2>the moment that they reach out to you to the

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<v Speaker 2>moment that they finish their treatment.

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<v Speaker 3>So a typical day is a family will be seen

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<v Speaker 3>at one of the major hospitals. One of the first

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<v Speaker 3>questions the social workers or medical team will ask is

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<v Speaker 3>are you military or have you served? The second they

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<v Speaker 3>say yes, they give them our information and we step in.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a nurse on staff that will then connect

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<v Speaker 3>with the social work team. We will find out what

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<v Speaker 3>their illness is, how long they're going to be here.

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<v Speaker 3>Then we place them at the hotel or one of

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<v Speaker 3>our apartments, which is right next to the medical facility

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<v Speaker 3>that they're utilizing. They check in like a regular hotel,

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<v Speaker 3>they never see a bill, and we stay in touch

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<v Speaker 3>with them the entire time of the duration of their stay.

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<v Speaker 1>That's beautiful. I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Not sure if you know this, I was injured in

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<v Speaker 2>early of two thousand and three, shortly after the conflict

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<v Speaker 2>in Iraq began, and my mother had to relocate of course,

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<v Speaker 2>and was at the hospital by my side for the

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<v Speaker 2>three months that I was initially in the hospital. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've actually stayed at a Fisher House. My mother stayed

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<v Speaker 2>at a Fisher House in San Antonio when I was

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<v Speaker 2>recovering there. So I have a special place in my

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<v Speaker 2>heart for the Fisher House Foundation. Like why is this

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<v Speaker 2>so important for a veteran that's in treatment to have

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<v Speaker 2>family close by? Like what have you found as far

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<v Speaker 2>as like the clinical outcome?

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<v Speaker 1>What impact does it have?

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<v Speaker 3>Jr. It's unbelievable. I mean it's life changing. It can

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<v Speaker 3>change the course of the outcome of someone's illness. Having

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<v Speaker 3>a family member next to their loved one. It helps

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<v Speaker 3>the hospital, it helps the healing process, and it helps

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<v Speaker 3>the morale of the patient. No matter what age you are,

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<v Speaker 3>they were there for us. We need to be there

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<v Speaker 3>for them. And I will tell you when I speak

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<v Speaker 3>about what we do, so many people say, I never

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<v Speaker 3>thought about what happens when the military gets sick, when

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<v Speaker 3>they're out. I never thought about them being in the hospital.

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<v Speaker 3>What the cost could be to get the correct care

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<v Speaker 3>if they had to travel from Washington State to Boston

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<v Speaker 3>for the specialized treatment. Then you come here and you

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<v Speaker 3>face hotels at seven hundred dollars a night and either

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<v Speaker 3>they're saying we're going to go on hospice or the

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<v Speaker 3>sleeping in their cars because they can't afford it. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's very, very important for the community to step in

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<v Speaker 3>and get together and take care of these military members

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<v Speaker 3>that were there for us because their families need them.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, what made you get into this work?

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<v Speaker 3>So Jr. I have always done things taking care of people.

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<v Speaker 3>I was brought up that way. I'm the youngest of five.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just what we were taught you're supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was working at a behavioral house taking care

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<v Speaker 3>of children. I left that and decided to do something

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<v Speaker 3>polar opposite, So I opened a landscape company. Up came

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<v Speaker 3>the bids to do the yard design for the Fisher

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<v Speaker 3>House being built in West Roxbury. So we put the

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<v Speaker 3>design in. We won the bid and I designed the

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<v Speaker 3>backyard for the Fisher House in West Roxbury. But why

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<v Speaker 3>it was being built by the crews. I would sit

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<v Speaker 3>on the patio and talk to all the families, and

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<v Speaker 3>my father was a marine. When I was little, if

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<v Speaker 3>we saw someone in uniform, my father would walk me

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<v Speaker 3>over to them and say, shake his hand and thank him.

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<v Speaker 3>I was taught from a very young age that somebody

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<v Speaker 3>in uniform has raised their hand and said they would

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<v Speaker 3>die for you, show them the respect that they deserve.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just a natural transition to go from what

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<v Speaker 3>I feel intrinsically to putting it to motion and helping

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<v Speaker 3>military families. I never thought I would be where I

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<v Speaker 3>am today, saving our military thirteen million dollars in the

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<v Speaker 3>twelve years we've run it chain needed cause. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>a privilege to be able to work with our military

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<v Speaker 3>families and carry that name.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now, I love that, and it's it's so true.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I often challenge people. You know, we're so conditioned to

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<v Speaker 2>say thank you for your service, and even though on

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<v Speaker 2>the surface that's very beautiful to be able to acknowledge

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<v Speaker 2>what someone has done, you don't really necessarily truly know

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<v Speaker 2>what you're acknowledging, right, And so what I encourage people

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<v Speaker 2>to do instead is to replace thank you for your

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<v Speaker 2>service with tell me about your service. That to me

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<v Speaker 2>speaks to what you did while the crews were back

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<v Speaker 2>there working on you know, the backyard and the layout,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're sitting on that front porch talking to these

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<v Speaker 2>service members and their families. What did you learn that

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<v Speaker 2>made you realize, as a civilian, I want to be

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<v Speaker 2>connected to this.

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<v Speaker 3>It was honestly a privilege from the moment I walked

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<v Speaker 3>through though those doors to meet these families, to hear

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<v Speaker 3>what they had been through, and to know that we

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<v Speaker 3>could make a difference, whether it's small or big, to

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<v Speaker 3>change the course of their life going forward.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people tend to overthink it, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we tend to get caught up in the narrative that, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what do I offer? What do I bring to the table?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you say to those people when they're wondering

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to get involved. I buy into it the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that it's a responsibility, But what do I do?

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<v Speaker 3>You have to show up. You have to appreciate the

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<v Speaker 3>life you live and not look for the negative. I

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<v Speaker 3>am the incredible optimist. I know you have to believe

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<v Speaker 3>everything's going to be okay and life is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be good. And so many people, like you said, get

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<v Speaker 3>caught up in what's going on and correct things to answer,

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<v Speaker 3>and you just have to show up for each other.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the truth. So you said, thank you for

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<v Speaker 3>your service. I have to share a great story. I

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<v Speaker 3>had the privilege of meeting General Maddis and I was

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<v Speaker 3>so nervous before meeting him, and I said, thank you

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<v Speaker 3>for your service, sir, and he said, you're worth it. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>And it stopped me and he said, now, Jen, you

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<v Speaker 3>see lots of people through your line of work. When

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<v Speaker 3>you thank someone, if they say you're welcome, I want

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<v Speaker 3>you to tell them this story. And I tell every

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<v Speaker 3>military member I meet to say to somebody that says

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<v Speaker 3>that you're worth it.

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<v Speaker 2>When you said that, I literally, and I'm not exaggerating here,

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<v Speaker 2>I literally felt like I had to like take a

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<v Speaker 2>deep breath like it. I mean, it makes you think,

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<v Speaker 2>it makes you feel something different. It definitely carries a

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<v Speaker 2>different way to that I'm gonna have to use that

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<v Speaker 2>you do. That's the perfect response right there. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for sharing that story. It's funny how you said you

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<v Speaker 2>were shy. Yeah, you ain't shy, Jen, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>we could talk for hours and hosting this podcast. That's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things I've identified is that we're telling

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<v Speaker 2>these stories of these incredible individuals that did something that

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<v Speaker 2>most of us can't even fathom, and it's easy to

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<v Speaker 2>put them on a pedestal, and again, they deserve to

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<v Speaker 2>be up there, right, Those individuals in a moment, they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know what the outcome would be. They just kept

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<v Speaker 2>showing up, right. They didn't have to have all the answers.

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<v Speaker 2>They just went with what they had. They just brought

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<v Speaker 2>themselves and they just kept showing up. That's a beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>reminder to everybody that's listening, whether you've served or not,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter what you're navigating in life, keep showing up. Well, Jen, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna ask you a straight up question now, when

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<v Speaker 2>these families are showing up, are you trying to convert

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<v Speaker 2>them to be like Celtics fans and Ruin fans? And

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, are you trying a Red Sox fan? Are

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<v Speaker 2>you trying to convert them to be Boston fans?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you do? I know you guys always trying

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<v Speaker 2>to work on angle up there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so everyone knows the Patriots and the Bruins are

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<v Speaker 3>the best, so they just immediate and Celtics, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>so they just automatically want to be part of our

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<v Speaker 3>family with that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that's one of the things.

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<v Speaker 2>Like when I was in San Antonio recovering, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they would give me a hard time, right, I'd come

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<v Speaker 2>out of a surgery and I'd wake up and then

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the staff would prank me and they would

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<v Speaker 2>literally decorate my room with spurs gear and I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, oh, like, what are you guys doing? Like why

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<v Speaker 1>are you guys doing this to me?

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<v Speaker 2>And it was just one of those fun, little banter

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<v Speaker 2>things that just sort of kind of allowed you to

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<v Speaker 2>have a little bit of an escape, if you will.

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<v Speaker 3>So I will share our apartments. The three apartments were

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<v Speaker 3>decorated and all the furniture donated by the New England Patriots.

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<v Speaker 3>They have been an unbelievable partner. So I do get

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<v Speaker 3>quite a bit when I put a family in one

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<v Speaker 3>of our apartments. They joke with, Okay, we'll be a

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<v Speaker 3>Patriots fan for this amount of time because all the

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<v Speaker 3>pictures on the walls are the Patriots, So we do

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<v Speaker 3>force them to be Patriots fans.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not a bad thing. That's not a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Get up there and enjoy that culture, you know, Our

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<v Speaker 2>show focuses on stories of courage, and we're often talking

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<v Speaker 2>about that courage that takes place on the battlefield.

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of courage do you see in the people

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<v Speaker 1>that you work with?

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<v Speaker 3>Just incredible from diagnosis that they are given and how

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<v Speaker 3>they have to stay strong for both their family and themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>J Are there things that would send you and I

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<v Speaker 3>into tears in our bed for hours and they're standing up,

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<v Speaker 3>showing up for their loved ones and everyone around them.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you. General John Kelly is a good friend,

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<v Speaker 3>and we dedicated the garden in West Roxbury to General

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<v Speaker 3>Kelly's son who was killed in action. And one day

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<v Speaker 3>I was walking with John and I started crying about

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<v Speaker 3>one of our families, just simple tears coming down. And

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<v Speaker 3>John put his hand on my arm and he gave

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<v Speaker 3>me the best of and he said, Jen, you can

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<v Speaker 3>never cry with the family. You're here to support them.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're crying, they're going to turn around and take

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<v Speaker 3>care of you. Now, Jr. If you know me, I

0:15:26.381 --> 0:15:30.021
<v Speaker 3>cry at the drop of a hat. So it is

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<v Speaker 3>very hard for me to stay in a place with

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<v Speaker 3>these families because when you hear that, you know we've

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<v Speaker 3>been married fifty years and we're going to celebrate our

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<v Speaker 3>anniversary in the hospital why he fights leukemia. Talking to

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<v Speaker 3>the veteran that calls and says, hey, I'm making this

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<v Speaker 3>call for my wife. I know you can't help me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just going to go on hospice. I need to

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<v Speaker 3>leave her financially sound, and if we come to Boston,

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<v Speaker 3>I won't be able to. And then I get to

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<v Speaker 3>pop in and say, sir, you're coming to Boston. I've

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<v Speaker 3>got you covered. We're going to get you here, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to take care of your stay. And just

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<v Speaker 3>knowing the difference we're making, there's nothing you can feel

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<v Speaker 3>but pride. And that is a true story. And he

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<v Speaker 3>is still living today. It's just across the board a

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<v Speaker 3>lesson every day because they are strong when they're seeing me.

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<v Speaker 3>They're in that space that they are allowed to come

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<v Speaker 3>down and cry and share the worst of what's going

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<v Speaker 3>on or the best of what's going on. So I

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<v Speaker 3>look at these families in awe at what they are shouldering,

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<v Speaker 3>what they are handling for their loved one. And I

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<v Speaker 3>will say, the military don't want to ask for anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we don't ask for help. We don't.

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<v Speaker 2>And you hear of these Medal of Honor recipients who

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<v Speaker 2>come home and they struggle, right, They struggle. They struggle

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<v Speaker 2>asking for help, They struggle with vulnerable you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>struggle with how to build that community outside of that

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<v Speaker 2>military environment. And when you have people like yourself that

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<v Speaker 2>are doing what they're doing, it just helps a service

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<v Speaker 2>member slowly start to believe that they can ask for help.

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<v Speaker 3>The younger generation, I will say, is more apt to

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<v Speaker 3>reach out, whereas the Korean and Vietnam vets, they're the

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<v Speaker 3>ones that when I say, sir, I've got you, the

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<v Speaker 3>phone goes quiet, and I know they're crying, so I

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<v Speaker 3>have to give them a few minutes. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 3>they come back and they say, ma'am, no one's ever

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<v Speaker 3>done anything like this for me. I had a veteran say,

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<v Speaker 3>we helped his wife who has leukemia and she was

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<v Speaker 3>here for over two hundred days in the hospital receiving care.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was a United States Marine and he said,

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<v Speaker 3>in all the years and all the service, this is

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<v Speaker 3>the greatest gift he has ever gotten back and the

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<v Speaker 3>first time he ever felt respected. Wow, And that's huge.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I often refer to the nearly three years that I

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<v Speaker 2>spent in the hospital recovering. When I actually sat down

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<v Speaker 2>to write my book and I got into the section

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<v Speaker 2>about my recovery, and I called my best friend and

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<v Speaker 2>I said, Man, is it weird that as I'm referring

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<v Speaker 2>and thinking about the time in the hospital, like I

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<v Speaker 2>actually feel like I miss it. And he said, no,

0:18:46.181 --> 0:18:48.941
<v Speaker 2>it's not weird, Jr. He's like, that's a reflection of

0:18:49.021 --> 0:18:51.181
<v Speaker 2>the people that took care of you, the people that

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<v Speaker 2>were there. And it was one of those moments where

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Oh, that's so true. They weren't just

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<v Speaker 2>the team that took care of me, whether the physician

0:19:00.621 --> 0:19:05.101
<v Speaker 2>or the social worker or the volunteer. They were my friends.

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<v Speaker 2>They were my extended family.

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<v Speaker 3>I get that because we have families that the husband

0:19:12.661 --> 0:19:16.221
<v Speaker 3>or wife cannot come the whole time. And that's when

0:19:16.261 --> 0:19:18.461
<v Speaker 3>we pop in and say, you know, is there anything

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<v Speaker 3>you need? Is there any you know there's another family

0:19:21.581 --> 0:19:24.661
<v Speaker 3>staying down the hall. Would you like to connect with them?

0:19:24.901 --> 0:19:28.781
<v Speaker 3>And you make a community of support, And that's what

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<v Speaker 3>it's all about. Even after we've put families up for

0:19:34.101 --> 0:19:39.221
<v Speaker 3>three hundred days, you know, sometimes they don't think to

0:19:39.341 --> 0:19:43.301
<v Speaker 3>come back and think about what kept them here. But

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<v Speaker 3>I will tell you. On Thanksgiving, my text message chain

0:19:49.941 --> 0:19:54.141
<v Speaker 3>fills up with messages from people saying thank you.

0:19:55.341 --> 0:19:57.340
<v Speaker 2>But then, what do you do for yourself? How do

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<v Speaker 2>you keep showing up? Because it takes an emotional toll.

0:20:02.181 --> 0:20:05.701
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you become connected, invested in all of these

0:20:05.701 --> 0:20:09.140
<v Speaker 2>families that you are around. What do you and what

0:20:09.221 --> 0:20:13.181
<v Speaker 2>does the team do for themselves in order to keep

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<v Speaker 2>showing up the way that you guys do.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a great question. So I asked myself that question.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been doing this sixteen years now, so I had

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<v Speaker 3>gone a long time without realizing the toll that it

0:20:29.101 --> 0:20:33.340
<v Speaker 3>was putting on me. Because when you hear so many

0:20:33.381 --> 0:20:38.061
<v Speaker 3>sad stories, you hold them, you hold them in your heart.

0:20:38.901 --> 0:20:43.221
<v Speaker 3>So this is a mission of love, I would say.

0:20:44.061 --> 0:20:46.981
<v Speaker 3>And I'm going to circle this back to courage and

0:20:47.061 --> 0:20:53.101
<v Speaker 3>being courageous because when I decided to start this program,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know at the time if the foundation would

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<v Speaker 3>even allow me to do this, But I had facts

0:21:02.221 --> 0:21:05.701
<v Speaker 3>that there were military families that were sleeping in their cars.

0:21:06.501 --> 0:21:08.901
<v Speaker 3>What are we supposed to do turn our back on

0:21:08.941 --> 0:21:12.261
<v Speaker 3>them and pretend we don't know the this is happening now.

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<v Speaker 3>So it took a lot of courage to put this together,

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<v Speaker 3>know that it was crazy because we'd have to raise

0:21:21.661 --> 0:21:25.901
<v Speaker 3>the funds to do this, and then it all just

0:21:26.021 --> 0:21:31.981
<v Speaker 3>worked out. My son is in it, and early on

0:21:32.101 --> 0:21:38.301
<v Speaker 3>he was volunteld that he would do this. Now he

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<v Speaker 3>loves it and he loves being part of it because

0:21:42.061 --> 0:21:46.021
<v Speaker 3>he gets to meet the military members that we help.

0:21:46.581 --> 0:21:50.141
<v Speaker 3>I mentioned earlier that we have a nurse that does

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<v Speaker 3>all of the medical intakes. That is my daughter, who

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<v Speaker 3>I stole from her bedside nursing job after five years

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<v Speaker 3>and said I need you on my team because they

0:22:04.701 --> 0:22:08.541
<v Speaker 3>grew up with this idea. They saw me have the

0:22:08.621 --> 0:22:12.501
<v Speaker 3>light bulb go off and say I need to do something.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is a true family love. My daughter met

0:22:17.261 --> 0:22:21.901
<v Speaker 3>her husband through the Fisher House Boston. He's an army guy,

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<v Speaker 3>and unlike other jobs where you check out at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the day and you go home, we've have

0:22:28.781 --> 0:22:32.461
<v Speaker 3>days that we put in sixteen hours sitting taking care

0:22:32.501 --> 0:22:35.580
<v Speaker 3>of families. We never look at it as a job.

0:22:36.701 --> 0:22:41.541
<v Speaker 3>When we talk about self care. We're family, so we

0:22:41.701 --> 0:22:45.741
<v Speaker 3>talk and there's never really a cutoff time. At ten

0:22:45.741 --> 0:22:48.821
<v Speaker 3>o'clock at night, Abigail can call me and say we

0:22:49.021 --> 0:22:52.021
<v Speaker 3>just got a call. A man's coming in for a transplant.

0:22:52.021 --> 0:22:56.301
<v Speaker 3>There medflighting him tomorrow morning. We're talking all the time

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<v Speaker 3>about the families that need help, why the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>the country is sleeping.

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<v Speaker 2>So you guys turn out to be each other's support

0:23:04.661 --> 0:23:08.341
<v Speaker 2>system absolutely, where you guys convent with one another's, share

0:23:08.341 --> 0:23:10.701
<v Speaker 2>with one another, be there to support one another.

0:23:10.781 --> 0:23:13.341
<v Speaker 1>Year you understand each other. That is beautiful.

0:23:13.381 --> 0:23:17.141
<v Speaker 2>I love I love how you know the connection there

0:23:17.461 --> 0:23:20.261
<v Speaker 2>and the ripple effect from the work and the way

0:23:20.261 --> 0:23:22.541
<v Speaker 2>that you've shown up. You know, I'm a father, I

0:23:22.581 --> 0:23:24.701
<v Speaker 2>have two kids. You know, you always get the question

0:23:24.741 --> 0:23:27.221
<v Speaker 2>of like, which kid do you love the most right

0:23:27.541 --> 0:23:29.501
<v Speaker 2>and as a parent, you can't really answer that question.

0:23:29.501 --> 0:23:31.901
<v Speaker 2>You're like, I love them all equally. It's just but

0:23:32.781 --> 0:23:35.461
<v Speaker 2>I get the impression that you're kind of like the

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<v Speaker 2>mother for all of these you know, patients that come

0:23:38.341 --> 0:23:39.501
<v Speaker 2>through and go through.

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<v Speaker 1>You know your process.

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<v Speaker 2>But is there one specific family or veteran whose story

0:23:46.581 --> 0:23:49.580
<v Speaker 2>has stayed with you over the years.

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<v Speaker 3>So I will tell you, honestly, every story touches me

0:23:55.381 --> 0:24:00.901
<v Speaker 3>in a different way. You have children that have something

0:24:00.941 --> 0:24:05.141
<v Speaker 3>called hypoplastic left heart syndrome. They are in the hospital

0:24:05.261 --> 0:24:09.501
<v Speaker 3>for a long, long time, you get to know those

0:24:09.581 --> 0:24:13.661
<v Speaker 3>families very well. Well. You know, I sit there and

0:24:13.701 --> 0:24:16.301
<v Speaker 3>I cry with them, and I hold their hand and

0:24:16.341 --> 0:24:20.021
<v Speaker 3>I support them. They are the same as the stem

0:24:20.141 --> 0:24:24.941
<v Speaker 3>cell families that are coming through. It really is just

0:24:25.101 --> 0:24:29.661
<v Speaker 3>like my son and daughter. Each family has changed my

0:24:29.781 --> 0:24:37.981
<v Speaker 3>life in some way, and they really have. They come

0:24:38.021 --> 0:24:42.941
<v Speaker 3>to you when they have fear, uncertainty, They have no

0:24:43.101 --> 0:24:47.261
<v Speaker 3>idea how they're going to do this. I believe all

0:24:47.341 --> 0:24:50.901
<v Speaker 3>they should focus on is their loved one and let

0:24:50.981 --> 0:24:55.541
<v Speaker 3>me take care of the rest. I couldn't say I

0:24:55.621 --> 0:24:59.661
<v Speaker 3>have a favorite, because they all have truly touched me

0:25:00.101 --> 0:25:01.501
<v Speaker 3>and left me with something.

0:25:03.621 --> 0:25:16.061
<v Speaker 1>I believe you. I believe you.

0:25:19.501 --> 0:25:19.580
<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 1>Jen.

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<v Speaker 2>Three years ago, in twenty twenty three, you, my friend,

0:25:25.181 --> 0:25:29.901
<v Speaker 2>received the Citizen's Honors Service Act Medal. What did it

0:25:30.021 --> 0:25:33.181
<v Speaker 2>mean for you to be recognized by Medal of Honor

0:25:33.221 --> 0:25:35.741
<v Speaker 2>recipients for your service.

0:25:37.061 --> 0:25:41.340
<v Speaker 3>Other than my children? The absolute greatest honor I have

0:25:41.421 --> 0:25:45.061
<v Speaker 3>ever received. You know, I've been involved with the Medal

0:25:45.101 --> 0:25:47.861
<v Speaker 3>of Honor for a long time. The Medal of Honor

0:25:47.901 --> 0:25:50.981
<v Speaker 3>hosts a convention every year, and I would be the

0:25:51.021 --> 0:25:54.301
<v Speaker 3>first to raise my hand to sit on the committee

0:25:54.341 --> 0:25:56.941
<v Speaker 3>to make it an incredible week for them when they

0:25:56.981 --> 0:26:00.781
<v Speaker 3>come to Boston. I can't tell you I'm you know.

0:26:00.861 --> 0:26:04.141
<v Speaker 3>I look at them and the heroic things they did

0:26:04.261 --> 0:26:09.061
<v Speaker 3>and the courage and the discipline everything that makes up

0:26:09.141 --> 0:26:13.061
<v Speaker 3>a Medal of Honor recipient, and I am humbled. I

0:26:13.101 --> 0:26:15.741
<v Speaker 3>can't believe that they even put my name in the

0:26:15.781 --> 0:26:19.261
<v Speaker 3>same sentence with them, And it just makes me work

0:26:19.341 --> 0:26:23.901
<v Speaker 3>harder because they gave me something so valuable and that

0:26:24.021 --> 0:26:27.341
<v Speaker 3>meant so much that I have to keep showing up

0:26:27.381 --> 0:26:30.821
<v Speaker 3>for these families and keep doing and growing and seeing

0:26:30.861 --> 0:26:34.061
<v Speaker 3>where there are gaps and care and be there for

0:26:34.141 --> 0:26:36.021
<v Speaker 3>the men and women that need us.

0:26:36.501 --> 0:26:41.741
<v Speaker 2>I love that that is so pure and yet one

0:26:41.821 --> 0:26:45.621
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent of what we constantly hear on this show

0:26:45.701 --> 0:26:48.621
<v Speaker 2>when we're talking about metal of out of recipients, right,

0:26:48.701 --> 0:26:52.541
<v Speaker 2>it's just this element of like, Okay, I have this

0:26:52.621 --> 0:26:56.100
<v Speaker 2>responsibility now, right. You know it's not always easy, but

0:26:56.861 --> 0:27:01.340
<v Speaker 2>this metal is just mainly a reminder that I am

0:27:01.421 --> 0:27:04.981
<v Speaker 2>still in service and the job is not done right.

0:27:06.541 --> 0:27:10.100
<v Speaker 2>What would you say to someone that is listening, that

0:27:10.181 --> 0:27:15.021
<v Speaker 2>is navigating their own adversity, whatever it may be, and

0:27:15.061 --> 0:27:19.221
<v Speaker 2>how they overcome it and how they continue to find

0:27:19.221 --> 0:27:20.221
<v Speaker 2>ways to show up.

0:27:20.781 --> 0:27:25.781
<v Speaker 3>So first, I'd say, give yourself a break, because we

0:27:25.981 --> 0:27:29.701
<v Speaker 3>put a lot of pressure on ourselves. Give yourself a

0:27:29.741 --> 0:27:34.021
<v Speaker 3>little bit of a break, and then one step at

0:27:34.021 --> 0:27:38.741
<v Speaker 3>a time. And know, something that you think is so

0:27:39.061 --> 0:27:44.340
<v Speaker 3>big and overpowering and crushing, sometimes when you look at

0:27:44.381 --> 0:27:47.341
<v Speaker 3>it the next day, you see another way to look

0:27:47.381 --> 0:27:51.181
<v Speaker 3>at it, and you start to process things in a

0:27:51.381 --> 0:27:55.381
<v Speaker 3>very different way. And that's what I would say is

0:27:55.581 --> 0:28:01.821
<v Speaker 3>know there are thousands of different chances, opportunities. There's nothing

0:28:01.981 --> 0:28:08.021
<v Speaker 3>that's so big that can't be overcome. And lean on people.

0:28:08.421 --> 0:28:12.581
<v Speaker 3>Nobody does things alone. You need your team of people,

0:28:13.581 --> 0:28:18.461
<v Speaker 3>whether it's family or battle buddies or you know, whoever

0:28:18.501 --> 0:28:21.341
<v Speaker 3>it is, lean on them. That's what they're there for.

0:28:22.541 --> 0:28:24.661
<v Speaker 1>How have you changed as a person?

0:28:26.501 --> 0:28:30.741
<v Speaker 3>I've changed so much. I would say. Twenty years ago

0:28:30.861 --> 0:28:35.140
<v Speaker 3>I never used the word blessed. I am blessed. It

0:28:35.221 --> 0:28:38.621
<v Speaker 3>is a gift and a privilege to be able to

0:28:38.781 --> 0:28:42.941
<v Speaker 3>make a change and a difference in someone's life, especially

0:28:43.021 --> 0:28:47.501
<v Speaker 3>when it is the hardest time of their life. And

0:28:48.381 --> 0:28:52.101
<v Speaker 3>I'm proud of my family to see my kids stepping

0:28:52.261 --> 0:28:55.741
<v Speaker 3>up and being the next generation for this and knowing

0:28:55.781 --> 0:29:00.821
<v Speaker 3>how important it is. To date, we have provided over

0:29:01.021 --> 0:29:06.381
<v Speaker 3>thirty three thousand nights of lodging to over fifty five

0:29:06.821 --> 0:29:13.021
<v Speaker 3>hundred military families, saving them thirty teen million dollars. And

0:29:13.061 --> 0:29:17.621
<v Speaker 3>that is all on donated funds from our community and

0:29:17.741 --> 0:29:19.661
<v Speaker 3>people that know what we're doing.

0:29:20.461 --> 0:29:25.061
<v Speaker 2>Well, Jen, this is a great opportunity to give the

0:29:25.141 --> 0:29:29.461
<v Speaker 2>listener a call to action. What do you need and

0:29:29.541 --> 0:29:33.821
<v Speaker 2>how can people support you and your mission? And then

0:29:33.861 --> 0:29:36.941
<v Speaker 2>how can people just support the Fisher House overall.

0:29:37.101 --> 0:29:40.901
<v Speaker 3>So for us here in Boston, because we do run

0:29:40.941 --> 0:29:45.501
<v Speaker 3>the program on donations, we are always in need of money.

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<v Speaker 3>So we are at Fisherhouse Boston dot org. There are

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<v Speaker 3>donation links there, all of our information is there and

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<v Speaker 3>that is the greatest support we need to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to keep doing what we do. And we have military

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<v Speaker 3>and need they are being diagnosed to now with cancer,

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<v Speaker 3>cardiac disease, high risk pregnancies, transplants, and they're all coming

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<v Speaker 3>to Boston to get the best medical care they can

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<v Speaker 3>and that they deserve. So help us help them and

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<v Speaker 3>go to Fisherhouse Boston dot org.

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<v Speaker 1>And no donation is too small, no never.

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<v Speaker 3>You're making a difference in someone's life, and a real difference.

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<v Speaker 2>When I'm listening to you and I would like to

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<v Speaker 2>say that I'm speaking for the listener right now. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I just sort of blanketed in like a big,

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<v Speaker 2>warm hug from you. That's how it feels, And it

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<v Speaker 2>feels like I would want when I'm in the Boston area,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to link up and I want.

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<v Speaker 1>To give you a big old hug and you better.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you are an angel on this earth love

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<v Speaker 2>and the way that you are impacting and showing up

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<v Speaker 2>and pouring your heart into every single intake as incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>And again for those listening, please go look up Fisherhouse

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<v Speaker 2>Boston dot org. Thank you so much for your willingness

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<v Speaker 2>to not only do this work but also come on

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<v Speaker 2>to the Medal of Honor Stories of Courage podcast And

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<v Speaker 2>it has been such a joy to have this conversation

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<v Speaker 2>with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Total pleasure to talk with you. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>To learn more about Jen's work at Fisher House Boston

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<v Speaker 2>or to make a donation to support them, visit Fisherhouse

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<v Speaker 2>Boston dot org. That link is also in our show notes.

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<v Speaker 2>This episode was produced by Ryan Sweikert. It was edited

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<v Speaker 2>by Lydia Jane Kott. Sound designed by Jake Gorski. Our

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<v Speaker 2>Executive producer is Constanze Gayadroro original music by Eric Phillips.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm j R. Martinez. Thank you for listening.