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Speaker 1: This is the Sean Hannity Show podcast. Senator Ted Cruz

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Speaker 1: will in fact named Carly Fierrina as his running mate

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Speaker 1: should he become the Republican nominee. I have a lot

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Speaker 1: of thoughts on that. We'll get to that. We also

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Speaker 1: have big results out of the five states from yesterday

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Speaker 1: the latest Super Tuesday Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Rhode Island

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Speaker 1: clean sweep five for five for Donald Trump and uh

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Speaker 1: four out of five for Hillary Clinton. So much to

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Speaker 1: talk about today. Look, I let me start here because

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Speaker 1: I know how emotional people are about this this race.

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Speaker 1: You gotta remember, you know, what are elections about? What

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Speaker 1: are governments built for? Thomas Payne once said that, you know,

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Speaker 1: if the guides and dictates of human conscience were irresistibly obeyed,

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Speaker 1: there would be no need for any law givers. But

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Speaker 1: that not being the case. That represents the formation of

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Speaker 1: government and civil society, etcetera. The people are what matters

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Speaker 1: in elections. Right now, the government of the United States

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Speaker 1: of America is pursuing policies that are extraordinarily harmful to

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Speaker 1: we the people, to you, the American people. That's why

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Speaker 1: I keep reminding people that that we have million Americans

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Speaker 1: Fully twenty percent of American families, not one member of

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Speaker 1: that family has a job, not at all. We have

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Speaker 1: become a dependency society. We have become a society that

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Speaker 1: government now is trying to take over every aspect of

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Speaker 1: our lives. They don't allow us to become energy independent.

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Speaker 1: They've now pursued our health care, which they have put

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Speaker 1: That makes us vulnerable. That increases comp titian for jobs,

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Speaker 1: drives down wages. We pay more money per student per

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Speaker 1: capita than any other country on Earth, with the worst

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Speaker 1: results for any dollar spend. And government is failing. And

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Speaker 1: the same government, by the way, that stole your Social

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Speaker 1: Security money that they were gonna put a lock box.

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Speaker 1: They promised you, just like they promised you to keep

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Speaker 1: your doctor, keep your plan, and you'll save a year.

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Speaker 1: The average healthcare plan across the country is up thirty

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Speaker 1: this year. Yesterday, the people said that by some sixty

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Speaker 1: plus percent margin, and reinforcing previous polls now that have

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Speaker 1: been going on for months that Republicans feel betrayed by

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Speaker 1: Washington Republicans. By the way, those Republicans have earned that

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Speaker 1: distinction that has caused, as I have said all throughout

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Speaker 1: this campaign, the insurgency that you see. They won't take

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Speaker 1: the blame. They won't acknowledge they are wrong. They won't

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Speaker 1: admit they've been weak and timid and ineffective and feckless

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Speaker 1: and ing with the Obama agenda. They won't admit that

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Speaker 1: they put the they prioritize their own power over fighting

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Speaker 1: the president's radical agenda. They won't acknowledge any of that.

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Speaker 1: And as a result, the people are rising up in

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Speaker 1: massive numbers and saying, some eighty three percent yesterday believe

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Speaker 1: that it's time for an outsider. Now that's the These

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Speaker 1: are exit poll numbers that I'm giving you. Fifty seven

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Speaker 1: of people yesterday voting are very worried about the economy.

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Speaker 1: Of all the issues, believe economy and jobs is the

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Speaker 1: number one issue. I've always said, piece and prosperity drive elections.

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Speaker 1: It's true, it never changes. Seventy one believe that we

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Speaker 1: need change dramatically. That's what voters were saying yesterday. Now,

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Speaker 1: we started out this race with seventeen people I could

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Speaker 1: Rick Perry, I always Rick Perry did a great job

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Speaker 1: like Senator Marco Rubio. I know he paid a price

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Speaker 1: for comprehensive immigration. He is a star in the conservative movement.

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Speaker 1: I don't care what anybody says. The guy has amazing qualities.

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Speaker 1: He paid a price for a mistake he made. I

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Speaker 1: don't think you'd ever make it again. Um you can.

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Speaker 1: You can look at any of these people. I can't

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Speaker 1: even name outsiders like Carle Fierina, who's going to be

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Speaker 1: announced as Senator Cruz's VP today. Dr Benjamin Carson point

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Speaker 1: did he not add a lot to this campaign cycle?

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Speaker 1: Amazing guy? Love him? Uh? Jeb Bush all right, he

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Speaker 1: paid the price of his last name, Common Corps. Immigration

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Speaker 1: I mean amazing things these governors. So I can make

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Speaker 1: own party, standing there for what twenty some odd hours, filibustering,

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Speaker 1: having the backbone that his colleagues didn't have. That's why

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Speaker 1: now we're down to three candidates. Really too, I think

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Speaker 1: a massive advantage, but there's really two people. Now, if

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Speaker 1: you supported any one of the other fifteen people at

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Speaker 1: some point in this race, you are probably disappointed, probably saddened,

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Speaker 1: because you probably, like most people that are interested in

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Speaker 1: you care about your country. You hear statistics about million

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Speaker 1: accumulate more dead in the Obama years than every other

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Speaker 1: president before you combined. That we can talk about isis

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Speaker 1: not acknowledging radical Islamic terrorism, the the the frayed relationship

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Speaker 1: territorial ambitions, and the China Sea UH, the Iranian nuclear

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Speaker 1: deal given the radical Mullers the number one state sponsor

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Speaker 1: times in which we're living in an Elections matter and

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Speaker 1: they have consequences. So I um as somebody that's tried

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Speaker 1: that yesterday and probably the feelings have followed you through today,

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Speaker 1: large strides to becoming the Republican nominee. He's not there yet.

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Speaker 1: if Trump wins Indiana in six days, he might very well,

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Speaker 1: place with a hundred seventy one. You know, my only surprise.

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Speaker 1: I've always liked Carly Fiorina. Carly Fiorina is tough as nels.

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Speaker 1: I understand the importance right now for the Cruise campaign

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Speaker 1: in California. I like her. She's extraordinarily smart. She's probably

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Speaker 1: been one of the best at prosecuting the case, especially

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Speaker 1: the fact that Cruizes in their fighting and Carly is

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Speaker 1: in their fighting. I think in the end it's gonna

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Speaker 1: make everybody stronger. Um. I don't think a VP pick

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Speaker 1: the time. People tend to vote for the top of

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Speaker 1: the ticket, not the VP. Uh. It may be too little,

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Speaker 1: too late. I don't know, Bobby Knight. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: But you know, I kind of like it because I

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Speaker 1: like your reverence. I like I like a good combative brawl.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I practice mm A. I actually grapple and fight,

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Speaker 1: I could probably relish in it a bit too much.

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Speaker 1: So well, we're gonna know a lot more week from now.

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Speaker 1: But you cannot deny what happened last night was massive. Maryland.

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Speaker 1: Trump won of the vote, Pennsylvania fifty seven percent of

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Speaker 1: now you have everybody's gonna pull out all those stops

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Speaker 1: in Indiana. You live in Indiana, You're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: hell of a time watching a lot of campaign ads

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Speaker 1: and hearing a lot of campaign ads. There is a

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Speaker 1: pro ted cruise superpack that has committed one point six

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Speaker 1: million dollars to the state. Now, Donald Trump, who has

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Speaker 1: been very fruit in terms of spending money on ad campaigns,

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Speaker 1: he has now committed almost a million dollars on TV

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Speaker 1: and radio ads and apparently Mike Pence is going to

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Speaker 1: stay neutral in the contest in the race. That probably

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Speaker 1: helps Trump and hurts Cruise because crews would desperately need

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Speaker 1: and want Pence's endorsement. And if Trump has Nights endorsement

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Speaker 1: and Pence stays out of it, I'd say that's a

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Speaker 1: net game for Trump because the counter the Bobby Night endorsement.

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Speaker 1: If it's possible, the only person that could come close

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Speaker 1: is Mike Pence. Well, I've always liked I've always liked

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Speaker 1: Mike Pence. Good guy. Um. Anyway, Paul Manafort has been

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Speaker 1: telling Republican officials that Trump's in the midst of doubling

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Speaker 1: their ground game there. I think this is the first.

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Speaker 1: Pennsylvania is probably the first sign that the Trump campaign

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Speaker 1: is scott and serious about a ground game, as evidenced

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Speaker 1: by them distribute voter guide so that when you went

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Speaker 1: into the voting booth and the delegates, you actually knew

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Speaker 1: who to vote for if you were a Trump supporter.

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Speaker 1: We did it for all three of the campaigns. We

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Speaker 1: did it for Trump cruizend case, like if you were

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Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. So there's gonna be a sudden infusion of

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Speaker 1: operatives in cash and that's a sign that Indiana's position

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Speaker 1: in the Republican primary fight right now is massive. So

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Speaker 1: we'll have to see what happens there. Now. There's some

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Speaker 1: other things going on in the news as well. Trump

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Speaker 1: said that he's ready to hit the Hillary scandal encyclopedia. Well,

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Speaker 1: I already have that information. Um. Lena Dunham has said

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Speaker 1: I know a lovely place in Vancouver and I can

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Speaker 1: get work done from there. She's gonna if Trump gets elected,

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Speaker 1: She's leaving. Rosie O'Donnell says she's leaving. Let's see, Samuel L.

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Speaker 1: Jackson says he's leaving. Jon Stewart says he that he's leaving.

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Speaker 1: Raven Simone is leaving, Miley Cyrus is leaving, Whoopie Goldberg

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Speaker 1: is leaving, Al Sharpton is leaving, George Lopez is leaving.

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Speaker 1: And this is what Trump had to say about Lena Dunham.

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Speaker 1: You got that tape. No, well, he said, well now

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Speaker 1: that now I have to get elected to make sure

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Speaker 1: Lena Dunham and Rosie O'Donnell go and flee to Canada.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty funny. This happens every election year. Guess what,

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Speaker 1: they never leave. I've even offered to charter airplanes with

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Speaker 1: the one stipulation that if you people are gonna leave,

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Speaker 1: you can never come back. Ever, otherwise you have to

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Speaker 1: pay me five times what the cost of the plane was.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a fair deal. I could raise that

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Speaker 1: money in twenty seconds to get rid of these people

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Speaker 1: who wants them. They're the most annoying people in the media,

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Speaker 1: every one of them. Maybe I'm not Whoopie Goldber. I

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Speaker 1: like Whoopi Goldberg. Not Whoopee has been very nice to

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Speaker 1: me over the years. I went on I went on

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Speaker 1: the View, and Rosie was going ballistic. What are you

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Speaker 1: playing here? Side? All right? Enough of that sounded now.

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Speaker 1: That stupid song is gonna stick in my head all day.

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Speaker 1: Why did you do that? You really had to do

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Speaker 1: that to me. I can't watch those movies that have

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Speaker 1: those songs that the next five days. That that that

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Speaker 1: that that that that that that that this drives me nuts.

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Speaker 1: Oh shut up, let's stop. I'm not the singer here

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Speaker 1: for crying out loud. Um all right. So that's pretty

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Speaker 1: much the state of affairs. I've got a lot of

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Speaker 1: other news here. We've got a lot of news on

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Speaker 1: the Hillary side, Democratic side, she is a weak candidate.

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Speaker 1: You know. You know the one question I keep getting

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Speaker 1: asked now more than are we gonna win? And we're

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Speaker 1: gonna win and we're gonna win. I could make the

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Speaker 1: case for any of the seventeen candidates Republicans that were running.

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Speaker 1: I could, But Hillary still starts out with the vote,

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Speaker 1: and I have an announcement to make a major announcement.

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton has decided on her vice presidential nominee. Hillary

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Speaker 1: has picked Donald Trump. Now, it's important to note Hillary

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Speaker 1: had a very careful vetting process that went into this.

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Speaker 1: She wanted someone who shared her vision of the federal government.

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Speaker 1: You know. Donald Trump did recently a town hall. He

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Speaker 1: was asked named the top functions of the federal government.

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Speaker 1: He said security, and then he said healthcare, education, and housing.

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Speaker 1: Funny thing is, if you asked Hillary, she'd say the

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Speaker 1: same thing. If you asked Bernie, Bernie be like, wow,

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Speaker 1: that's aggressive. You don't only want socialized medicine, you also

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Speaker 1: want to put the federal government in charge of all education, education,

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Speaker 1: common core. According to Donald that's the core responsibility of

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Speaker 1: the federal government, and housing. How many people are ready

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Speaker 1: for the federal government taking over the housing market. And

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Speaker 1: you know Donald Hillary, they are flip sides of the

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Speaker 1: same coin. Hillary Clinton has made millions of dollars selling

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Speaker 1: power and influence in Washington, and Donald Trump has made

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Speaker 1: billions of dollars buying politicians like Hillary Clinton. Well, I

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Speaker 1: think they're hurting the party because again they have no path,

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Speaker 1: zero path to victory. And we're gonna win on the

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Speaker 1: first ballot. We don't look for the delegates or number two, three, four,

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Speaker 1: five ballot. And here's what I say. Let's assume it

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Speaker 1: did go beyond the first ballot, and let's assume your

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Speaker 1: rynch who is a very good man head of RNC

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Speaker 1: ranch previously, and let's say, oh, well, Trump was twelve

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Speaker 1: short or fifteen delegate short or five short, but five

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Speaker 1: hundred more than Crews and far more than that ahead

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Speaker 1: of Casing. So you go to a second ballot. Now,

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Speaker 1: Trump by that time will be five million votes because

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Speaker 1: of California and the sides of California, and I think

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Speaker 1: Indiana and other places, Trump by that time will be

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Speaker 1: five million votes ahead of Chris will be much more

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Speaker 1: than five in votes. Add a Kasey, how do you

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Speaker 1: pick a man on the second or third or fourth ballot,

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Speaker 1: who has millions of votes, five six million votes les

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Speaker 1: than Trump. And I'm the one that brought all these

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Speaker 1: people into the party. That's why the Republican Party is

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Speaker 1: up almost seven from four years ago. And you know

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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen those people, At a minimum, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be very upset, very angry, but at a minimum, they're

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Speaker 1: just not going to vote. They're not going to vote.

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Speaker 1: So how do you do this? All? Right? That was

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Speaker 1: Ted Cruz and Donald Trump from yesterday. We've got so

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Speaker 1: much going on today. Carly Fiorina announced as Ted Cruizes

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Speaker 1: running mate. That's one story the five state sweep by

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump yesterday in Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, UH, Connecticut, in

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Speaker 1: Rhode Island. And joining us now are two people now

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Speaker 1: well known to the program. We have d C. McAlister,

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Speaker 1: senior contributor to the Federalist, a Cruise supporter. Michael Conan

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Speaker 1: is the executive vice president and special counsel to Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: And welcome both of you to the program. And uh,

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Speaker 1: d C. I'll start with you first to fiorina announcement,

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Speaker 1: I am not sur eies and he's going into California.

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Speaker 1: Cruise needs that energy and that support, and he's hoping

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Speaker 1: that he'll have that with her. I think there's a

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Speaker 1: risk and picking someone who's already run for president because

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Speaker 1: the people rejected her to she just didn't catch fire

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Speaker 1: with them, So that's always a risk when you do that.

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Speaker 1: But it makes sense. She's a woman. He needs a

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Speaker 1: woman on his ticket and going into California, like I said,

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Speaker 1: this would be a wise move on that front. What

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Speaker 1: do you think, Michael Cole? First of all, I find

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Speaker 1: it to hold the press conference the day after a

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Speaker 1: historic loss and then to choose a VP when he

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Speaker 1: has absolutely no path to victory is obnoxious to the

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Speaker 1: way I see it. Why is it obnoxious? Why would

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Speaker 1: that be amount to hiring an executive? But you closed

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Speaker 1: the company the day before. The guy's mathematically out of

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Speaker 1: the race. What he should do, What the announcement should

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Speaker 1: have been, is that he's getting out of the race

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Speaker 1: and that they're all going to coalesce behind Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: unite the party, and move forward to defeating Hillary Clinton

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Speaker 1: for the presidency. What about the idea that after last

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Speaker 1: night d C and I actually would argue it was

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Speaker 1: after New York, knowing how the distribution of delegates are

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Speaker 1: but it was mathematically slightly possible, but now it's mathematically

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Speaker 1: impossible for Senator Cruise to get to twelve thirty seven. Um,

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Speaker 1: he called John Kasik a spoiler when when Kasi stayed

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Speaker 1: in when he was mathematically incapable of getting a twelve

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Speaker 1: thirty seven. What is your reaction on that. Well, the

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Speaker 1: fact is, and we've talked about this before, that Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump needs twelve thirty seven to actually win it. It

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Speaker 1: was interesting that Donald Trump he made he made the

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Speaker 1: analogy last night his speech to a boxer and he

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Speaker 1: said that last night was a knockdown and that he's

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Speaker 1: actually won. But but I really would like to go

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Speaker 1: with that analogy because I think it's a good one.

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Speaker 1: There hasn't been a knockdown. There's still fighting. I mean

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Speaker 1: you can and Donald Trump has gotten a lot of

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Speaker 1: points there at the latter rounds. But Ted Cruiz is

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Speaker 1: still fighting because he could actually knock him out at

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Speaker 1: the end, and that's what he's wanting to do. You

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Speaker 1: may think that's obnoxious, you may not like the process,

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Speaker 1: but that's actually a possibility. And the reason why Ted

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Speaker 1: Cruiz is staying in is because he does believe that

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Speaker 1: his message, his plan for America is better than Donald Trump's.

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Speaker 1: So he's fighting for that. But he's the only one

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Speaker 1: that believes that. You know, Sometimes he looks in the mirror,

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Speaker 1: look in the mirror and say to yourself, you know what,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe this just isn't my time. Maybe this is

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's time. Maybe despite the fact that you know, um,

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Speaker 1: he claims to be an outsider, but he's an insider.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he didn't impress the other you know, members in

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Speaker 1: the Senate with his you know, rendition of green eggs

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Speaker 1: and ham who knows it's Donald Trump's time. And I

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Speaker 1: just want to go back to one thing you brought up,

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Speaker 1: the force shown about, you know, the choosing of Carly Fiorina.

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Speaker 1: What an absolutely poor choice by Cruz to pick Carly

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Speaker 1: Fiorina as his VP. And this is not an indictment

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Speaker 1: against miss Fiorina because she clearly has a spectacular past.

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Speaker 1: Why why why do you say that? Why do you

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Speaker 1: say that? Because I actually, of course what what he

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Speaker 1: should have done. Being down more than four hundred delegate votes,

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Speaker 1: The betted choice would have been somebody like Marco Rubio,

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Speaker 1: who has more votes than the guy that he just

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Speaker 1: colluded with and a delegate votes in that way, maybe

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Speaker 1: he's not mathematically out. You know, I actually had the

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Speaker 1: same thought myself. No no, not no, no, no, stop

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Speaker 1: my ship. Actually I actually know you just shut up.

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Speaker 1: You're being obnoxious. I actually did have the same thought

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Speaker 1: for the very same reason this morning. And it does

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Speaker 1: raise a question. You know, was Marco Rubio approached by

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Speaker 1: Senator Cruz and if that, if that happened, I would

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Speaker 1: like to know what the back story is. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of the type of story that you're reading Bob Woodward's

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Speaker 1: next book a year into the next presidency. UM. But

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Speaker 1: d C. Mcallistar, I think that Michael makes a point

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Speaker 1: about the delegates. I mean, Marco Rubio has been out

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Speaker 1: about five or six weeks now, still has more delegates

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Speaker 1: than John Kasy. I don't know if there's been any

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Speaker 1: brew closet meetings for the marker Rubio. I don't really

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Speaker 1: want to picture those two in the broom closet together.

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Speaker 1: But UM, I don't think Mark Rubio I get the

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Speaker 1: feeling that he's not really keen on the idea of

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Speaker 1: being a VP with with Ta Cruz. Uh. As far

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Speaker 1: as the delegate counsel and that would be advantageous. But

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Speaker 1: you don't know what. Do you think he'd ever consider

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Speaker 1: being a VP for Trump? I doubt it. I mean

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Speaker 1: I almost think he's he's re resetting for another time

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Speaker 1: in the future. But I don't know that for a fact.

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Speaker 1: That's just a sense that I get from him. As

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Speaker 1: far as Carl Fierina, I mean, like I said, I

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Speaker 1: critical on one level, but I think that's an excellent move.

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Speaker 1: You come back again. She's a fighter, he's a fighter,

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Speaker 1: and they're fighting. And back to that boxing analogy, it

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Speaker 1: is not over. There has not been a knockdown, and

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Speaker 1: so they're fighting to win. And it makes sense that

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Speaker 1: after you've had a big loss, you come back to

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Speaker 1: the next round and you keep fighting. And he's going

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Speaker 1: to go presidential, He's going to move forward and look forward,

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Speaker 1: just like Donald Trump did today. He came out. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how appropriate is that to come out and have like

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Speaker 1: a press conference as if you're the president, let me

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Speaker 1: talk about foreign policy. And by the way, he really

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Speaker 1: needs to work on his teleprompter performance. Um, he just

655
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Speaker 1: needs to do that. Why would you say such a thing? Actually,

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Speaker 1: I've gotten phone calls of rave reviews of Mr. Trump's

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Speaker 1: um speech today on foreign policy. And while we listened

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Speaker 1: to Ted Cruz with his wonderful humor just prior you know,

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Speaker 1: to us being on you know, on air. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, you know, it's he talked about a

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Speaker 1: guy that doesn't sound presidential. There's nothing presidential about Ted Cruz.

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Speaker 1: He for some reason, he just can't get through his head.

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Speaker 1: And yet he's such an intelligent guy Harvard Law. He

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Speaker 1: can't understand. Maybe he wants to be the president of

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Speaker 1: the United States of America, but nobody else wants him.

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Speaker 1: People who looked at made to look. He was sitting

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Speaker 1: there jumping up and down screaming, Hey, I won Wisconsin.

668
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Speaker 1: Look at me. I'm great. I beat Donald Trump. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was Wisconsin and now six states later. But this

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Speaker 1: isn't just a victory. This was a trick. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he just he destroyed way to Donald Trump. He took

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Speaker 1: he took every state, but by humongous margins. I'd like

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Speaker 1: to talk about why that not only not only did

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Speaker 1: he take it by huge margins, there were three people

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Speaker 1: in the race. Yes, and let's talk about why that happened. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about Yeah, I think you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: think this is a ringing endorsement necessarily of Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: And let me explain what I mean by that it's

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Speaker 1: a ringing endorsem let me explain what I mean by that. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he got the numbers, but why what was the driving

681
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Speaker 1: motivational forces about. I don't think it's against Ted Cruz.

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's built on fear and also a

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Speaker 1: strong sense of fairness. I mean and the American people.

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Speaker 1: I think, um Sean and you may understand what I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about this. I think that people love fairness and

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Speaker 1: justice almost more than they do liberty. And when you

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Speaker 1: talk about conservatism, you're talking about liberty. And what I'm

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Speaker 1: seeing in this election when I saw it happen in

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Speaker 1: Pennsylvania as people saying I'm more concerned about fairness than

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Speaker 1: I am about my own liberty. Let me, let me,

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Speaker 1: let me, let me ask. I'm gonna say, I want

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Speaker 1: to I want to dig into this. Are you saying

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Speaker 1: that I don't see that the this is contrary? I mean,

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Speaker 1: you really have here. Americans are making choices, and it

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Speaker 1: almost sounds like you're saying they're making a choice, an

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Speaker 1: alien form choice or sort of insulting the voters by

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Speaker 1: saying that, what do you mean by that? I mean

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Speaker 1: to insult them at all? Um. I think that the

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Speaker 1: anger and I think all three of us can agree

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Speaker 1: that there's anger at Washington, anger at the establishment that

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Speaker 1: has been driving the selection that has not gone away.

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Speaker 1: And what we've seen, what we saw in Pennsylvania especially,

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Speaker 1: was fuel thrown on that fire. And what was the fuel?

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Speaker 1: It was weeks of saying the system is rigged, people

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Speaker 1: are lying. You're being cheated, Ted Cruiz is cheating you.

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Speaker 1: The process is bad, You're being screwed. That's what we've

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Speaker 1: been hearing over and over again. Well, the American people

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Speaker 1: don't like to be screwed. They don't like unfairness, they

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Speaker 1: don't like to be cheated out of things, and so

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Speaker 1: they came out. And when you have conservatives overwhelmingly picking

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, evangelicals overwhelmingly picking Donald Trump when they don't

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Speaker 1: like him, and when you ask those same people whose

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Speaker 1: values align more with yours, and overwhelmingly they say, Ted Cruz,

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Speaker 1: why are they choosing someone who does not align with

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Speaker 1: their own values? The only answer is they're angry, they're afraid,

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Speaker 1: and they feel like they're being cheated, and they're going

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Speaker 1: to use whatever blood and they can use to bring

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Speaker 1: about the fairness that they think that they're getting. And

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Speaker 1: my problem with that is that in this election, with

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Speaker 1: that primary, that's a lie. There is no unfairness in

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Speaker 1: the process. There is no one stealing the election. And

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Speaker 1: that's what my concerns. That messaging is what one on

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Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. That's messaging, not Donald Trump. Donald Trump's message,

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Speaker 1: that's not I think. I think that's a stretch, though,

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Speaker 1: I really do. I mean, you know, you're talking about

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Speaker 1: five critical states here, and while certainly there's been a

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Speaker 1: lot of discussion and talk about delegates, etcetera. And the system. Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can look at the margins of

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Speaker 1: any candidate, either either Cruise winning in Wisconsin or the

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Speaker 1: five state win or New York for Trump and say that, well,

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Speaker 1: this cause that or that cause that. I think it's

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Speaker 1: it's agree with you on that out, I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: it's far deeper than that. I don't really think listen

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Speaker 1: to be perfectly blund I don't even think people are

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Speaker 1: paying attention to that A whole lot. I do, and

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Speaker 1: I also think they're afraid of a conflict at the convention.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the other driving force here. I think

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Speaker 1: they just want it over. I think that's another And

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Speaker 1: that's interesting because even a state like Wisconsin that Senator

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Speaker 1: Cruise one voters there, the per said the person with

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Speaker 1: the most votes, the most delegates, and the most states

742
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Speaker 1: one should get the nomination. I mean, that's what they said.

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Speaker 1: Backs up my theory about the fairness. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think they think that the systems were they believe that

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Speaker 1: messaging and they thought they see t But I mean,

746
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Speaker 1: look at the numbers right now. You have Donald Trump

747
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Speaker 1: over ten million votes. You have Ted Cruz just under

748
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Speaker 1: seven million. You have twenty seven states for Trump. You

749
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Speaker 1: have eleven if we're talking states and territories Trump Senator

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Speaker 1: Cruz awesome showing at eleven and by any you know,

751
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: seventeen people were in this race. You have Marco Rubio

752
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Speaker 1: and third with three and John Kasi with one. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I understanding when we've talked it's really been a two

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Speaker 1: person race this whole time. Well, and it's going to continue,

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Speaker 1: is going to continue down to the convention. And what

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Speaker 1: my point is that it's not unfair. Though this is

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Speaker 1: part of let me ask the final question, which I

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00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: always ask, Um, and you know what, I actually think

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00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: that you and Michael have become friendly over this time

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Speaker 1: for some reason, in a strange way, even though you

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00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: battle a lot. But my biggest concern is at the

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00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: end of this process, there's so much anger and antipathy

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Speaker 1: among supporters on both sides. I worry that that the split,

764
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Speaker 1: the schism will continue through the general election, and if

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Speaker 1: it does, Hillary is gonna win. I'm very concerned, which

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Speaker 1: is why I don't like the rhetoric that comes from

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Speaker 1: the Trump campaign. And I don't know or or the

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Speaker 1: the never Trump movement. And by the way, I've never

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Speaker 1: been part of the never Trump movement. I've been critical

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Speaker 1: of that from the beginning. I'm for the for America

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Speaker 1: movement and for constitutional comment. I'm the I'm the never

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Speaker 1: Hillary movement. I also hit never I'm with that too,

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Speaker 1: But I'm very much for America and what's best and

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Speaker 1: we can disagree about which candidate is. Jump in here,

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Speaker 1: yea real quickly have I really appreciate it because the

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Speaker 1: two of you had to wonder you stop winding and

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Speaker 1: start talking. She makes the comment, which is absolutely inaccurate.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you what the Trump administration would focus

779
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: on on defending America, American interest, not nation building. All right,

780
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: Mr Trump wants stability, not chaos. Unfortunately, what he is

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00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: is he is not part of the establishment. They are

782
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Speaker 1: absolutely terrified that he is going to come in. The

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Speaker 1: American people are making the decision, not the delegates, not

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Speaker 1: Ted Cruiz's die, I got I gotta cut you off, Michael,

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Speaker 1: Not because I don't not because thanks for letting me

786
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Speaker 1: listen to this. We stop whining. That's not because I

787
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 1: don't love you. I mean I love both of you guys.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. By the way, I have someone in the

789
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Speaker 1: office here that would like to say hello to you

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Speaker 1: real quick. All right, I'll be Manzo from Manzo with children.

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Speaker 1: You're sitting and listening to this, will you tell him?

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Speaker 1: I said, hello, Okay, I sure will. All right, Thank you, Michael,

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Speaker 1: appreciate d C. Thank you. Our friends are beginning to

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Speaker 1: think they can't depend on us. We've had a president

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Speaker 1: who dislikes our friends and vows to our enemies, something

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00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: that we've never seen before in the history of our country.

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00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: He negotiated disastrous deal with Iran, and then we watched

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Speaker 1: them ignore its terms, even before the ink is dry.

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Speaker 1: Iran cannot be allowed to have a nuclear weapon. Cannot

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Speaker 1: be allowed Remember that cannot be allowed to have a

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Speaker 1: nuclear weapon. Alright. That was from Trump's foreign policy speech

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Speaker 1: that he gave earlier today. Very inclusive, very comprehensive on

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Speaker 1: too many levels, and I can even analyze today with

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Speaker 1: all that's going on, but he be vows to change

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Speaker 1: the trajectory of American foreign policy. Number One, that America's

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Speaker 1: interests will always be first under every circumstances, that we

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Speaker 1: will not allow ourselves to get into alliances with people

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Speaker 1: that are not truly our friends. And that he believes

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Speaker 1: that he can have outreach to both Russia, China other countries,

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Speaker 1: and if they don't reciprocate, then relations will will go

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Speaker 1: south and we'll just accept that that's their position. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: It was very comprehensive that one on today or other

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Speaker 1: top story last night's election results five states a sweet

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Speaker 1: for Trump, four out of five for Hillary, and the

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Speaker 1: announcement earlier in the last hour that Carley Fierina is

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Speaker 1: announced as the vice presidential candidate for Senator Ted Cruz.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to our busy phones here. Sherry

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Speaker 1: is in Youngstown, Ohio. Sherry is upset about something. What

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Speaker 1: can we do to make you feel better? Sherry sean,

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling defeated today. I am feeling like Trump is

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Speaker 1: going to be the nominee. I don't know that anyone

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Speaker 1: can win. I want a winner. I want to defeat Hillary.

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Speaker 1: I feel like thirty percent of some people that showed

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Speaker 1: up to vote this round tows him. I feel that

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Speaker 1: six of us are fighting everything and we do to

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Speaker 1: get somebody who can win. I agree with d C.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday was all about fear, be afraid, be afraid, be afraid,

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Speaker 1: be afraid you're getting ripped off. That's what people, that's

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Speaker 1: what incites people. Well, I can give you actually more.

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Speaker 1: I can give you better numbers than that to maybe

831
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Speaker 1: help either reinforce or maybe slightly contradicted of voters yesterday

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Speaker 1: feel betrayed by Washington. Republicans thirty nine care the most

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Speaker 1: about of any issue, economy and jobs. That reinforces the

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Speaker 1: numbers I give out every day about million Americans out

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Speaker 1: of the labor force, fifty million in poverty board, the

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Speaker 1: six billion on food stamps, and then of course our

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Speaker 1: record dead under Obama fifty seven percent of voters yesterday,

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Speaker 1: can win? Can I can? I just finish? Are very

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Speaker 1: worried about the economy. Three percent believe it's time for

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Speaker 1: an outsider. Seventy one percent believes the country needs dramatic change.

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Speaker 1: Now that's what voters said. I'm only telling you what

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Speaker 1: they say was on their minds yesterday. All right, So

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Speaker 1: let me let me ask you a question. Can win

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Speaker 1: without the African American vote? I think any of the

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Speaker 1: seventeen candidates going back to the very beginning are capable

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Speaker 1: of winning. But with that said, you've also heard me

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Speaker 1: offered this admonition often and frequently Hillary Clinton, you have

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Speaker 1: to look objectively at how the country is aligning politically

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Speaker 1: right now. You know, look at the votes for Bernie

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Speaker 1: Say Anders he's as a communist, for crying out loud,

851
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Speaker 1: he's a socialist. And look at the number of voters

852
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: and Americans, your fellow Americans, voting for him. Look at

853
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: the people the numbers voting for Hillary. I know it's

854
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: down from O waighteve and we've gone over that, and

855
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: Republican enthusiasm is real way up. But um, I've got

856
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: to tell you something. You know, if she starts with

857
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: the vote exactly. But that's my point. Republican enthusiasm is up.

858
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: Where were they when I we were desperate in twelve

859
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: Obama ruined his country desperate and twelve when they wouldn't

860
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 1: come out, they wouldn't come out. Where do you think

861
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: another group now that's all charged up. I want somebody

862
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: who can win. And who do you think that? I

863
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: do you keep saying about the White Knight. If there's

864
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: a white Knight that can pull together, I'll take it.

865
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: I'm death for anybody. It's not gonna happen. I outlined earlier.

866
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: There's still a path for a contested convention. It's a

867
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Speaker 1: very narrow path, but there's still a path for that.

868
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Speaker 1: And you know, voters in Indiana, they vote a week

869
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: from yesterday. We'll know by this time next week whether

870
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Speaker 1: or not, you know what, Ted Cruz was able to

871
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Speaker 1: pull off a big win in Indiana, which he would

872
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: need to get to the contested convention. And to be

873
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 1: perfectly honest, I I don't I don't have a crystal ball.

874
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how deep this anger runs. All the

875
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 1: empirical evidence, the data that I read, shows that Americans

876
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 1: now have recognized the failure of Obama and Clinton strategies

877
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: and policies. But you know it's kind of hard when

878
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: you know, for any Republican if you have to win

879
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: North Carolina, which has become increasingly difficult, Virginia where now

880
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: Terry mccauliff is allowing two hundred thousand felons to write

881
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: to vote and including violent felons, you gotta win Florida,

882
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: you gotta win Ohio. You gotta also pick up New Hampshire, Iowa,

883
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: New Mexico, Nevada, um and a bunch of other states,

884
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: and then hopefully put states like Pennsylvania, wisconsinant to play.

885
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: It is a very narrow path for Republicans. Historically, I

886
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: cannot promise you a victory with any of these candidates.

887
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: The only thing that I can to tell you is

888
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: that if Republicans continue this circular firing squad and they

889
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: keep shooting at each other and they don't unite, all

890
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: that's gonna do is help Hillary. Now, there's other factors

891
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: that come into play. She's a weak candidate, She's a

892
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: she doesn't have the communication skills of Barack Obama, his

893
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: ability to inspire a crowd and read a teleprompter, even

894
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: though it's all phony. She doesn't have the political skills

895
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Speaker 1: of her own husband, who looks somebody and I want

896
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Speaker 1: to say, you're You're the most special person in the

897
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: world for me, And she doesn't have that skill. You know,

898
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: when I hear her speak, I've got to turn it off.

899
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: I can't listen to it. Um, she's shown enormous weakness,

900
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: even in this primary against the seventy four year old curmudgeon. Yeah.

901
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: I you know. Every day I talked Sherry on this

902
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: program about what matters to me, And what matters to

903
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: me is stop robbing our kids, balancing our budget, living

904
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Speaker 1: within our means. What matters to me is securing our borders.

905
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: It matters to me is not allowing potential people terrorists

906
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: into the country because we can't vet them, and listening

907
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: to the admonitions of our national security team. It matters

908
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: to me that we spend more money on education than

909
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: any other country on Earth and have the worst results

910
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 1: per capita per dollar. It matters to me that we're

911
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: not energy independent. We have all the resources to be

912
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: energy independent. It matters to me that we've never repealed

913
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: and replaced healthcare. Now we got to go through that

914
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: whole transformation mess again if we elect a conservative. So

915
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: there's there's a multitude of problems in play here. I

916
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,439
Speaker 1: keep my right thing and go with Trump. Right, that's

917
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. I'm going to put do anything

918
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: I can do to stop Hillary. Agree with that, But

919
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: we got to get what are we gonna do? We

920
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: can unite? Nobody? Well, I look, I can only do

921
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: what I can do, and I promise you I have

922
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: already started a process of making phone calls and trying

923
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: to get people to unite, and you know what, to

924
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: be perfectly blunt with you, I've not had a whole

925
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: lot of success. I can believe it. I am desperate.

926
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: I am very compassionate about this because but sure, you

927
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: know why you care about because you love your country

928
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: and you hate to see it in decline. But nobody,

929
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. They have to get on board what

930
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: I mean. I sorry, I'm sorry. You sound so passionate. No,

931
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be. You shouldn't apologize for loving your country

932
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: as much as you do. You people to vote. Nobody

933
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: cares if it doesn't pertain to them. Everybody so self absorbed.

934
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 1: I mean, we got to unite this. I will vote

935
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: for Trump if he's the guy I want to win.

936
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: I want to win too. And what that's gonna take is, look,

937
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: think about it this way. If you were a Bobby

938
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Speaker 1: Gendle supporter, if you were a Rick Perry supporter, if

939
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: you were a Scott Walker supporter, if you're a Jeb

940
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Speaker 1: Bush supporter, if you're a Mark of Rubio supporter, you know,

941
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: I can't even name the seventeen people. Carlie Fierna, Ben Carson,

942
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: if you were any if Chris Christie, I don't care

943
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: who it is, whoever you were supporting. You know, at

944
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: some point in this process, those supporters were disappointed. I

945
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: understand that people have got invested a lot in in

946
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: learning about the candidates and issues and the hopes that

947
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: America will make a dramatic change, in the hopes that

948
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: we can get the tree back on course. It is

949
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: not it's got to be a collaborative effort. It's got

950
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 1: to be you cannot you know. The most frustrating thing.

951
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been off Twitter now except just shooting

952
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: out pictures of Marley and and and my dog Gracie,

953
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: because it's just I mean, it's so it's almost verbal

954
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: violence that's going on there because cruise people, they hate

955
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: Trump people, Trump people, they hate cruise people, Trump and

956
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: cruise people, they hate Kasic people. And we've almost lost

957
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,919
Speaker 1: perspective of what this race has got to ultimately be about. Now,

958
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: there's no such thing as a perfect candidate I have.

959
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: I've interviewed all seventeen of them, and I could make

960
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: the case going back to day one that all of

961
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: them will be a better president than either Obama or Hillary.

962
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna try and make the case. Look,

963
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 1: I've accumulated a thousand pages of hop research on everything

964
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: that you probably have forgotten about Hillary Clinton, and when

965
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: the time is right, I will every single day be

966
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: laying out the case why she's wrong for America, just

967
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 1: like I did in two thousand and eight against Obama.

968
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: And against Obama, I'm gonna try it again this year,

969
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: and if it doesn't work, I'll try it again in

970
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: but by that time it may be too late. I

971
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 1: feel you, and I get to say Trump's biggest decision,

972
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 1: or biggest thing he can do right now, he has

973
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: got to pick the right vice president. You don't throw

974
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: a woman in there because it's a woman. You don't

975
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: throw an African American in there, because who would you

976
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: advise him to pick? Give him some advice? What do

977
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: you like? I would take Walker, not a bad choice

978
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: at all. I would take Walker. I'd take Rubio, not

979
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: a bad choice at all. You've got to have some diversity.

980
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: But they're against the established. Could you imagine I said

981
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: this before. You know, I've never spend this much time

982
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: with one caller, but you're worthwhile here. I want to you.

983
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 1: You are making such poignant, strong emotional points that are

984
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: really tapping into something that I think a lot of

985
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: us are feeling. I have said, Sherry, as rationally as

986
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: I possibly can. I have been accused of supporting all

987
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: of the seventeen candidates. You know, the truth is I

988
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 1: have given as much time as appropriate to every anidate.

989
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: But I don't get credit for that, and I'm not

990
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: expecting it. I don't care because I know I've done

991
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: the right thing. But imagine I don't. Let's let's take

992
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: let's take names and personalities out of this equation. Candidate

993
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: A beats Candidate B for the nomination, and let's say

994
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 1: the candidate A reaches out to Candidate B and the

995
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,240
Speaker 1: other sixteen and the other fifteen candidates, and Scott Walker

996
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: can become a part of a coalition, and John Kasy

997
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: can become a part of the coalition, And Bobby Gendle

998
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: and Rick Perry and Rudy Juliani wasn't even one of

999
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: the seventeen or New King Rich or some of you know,

1000
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: We've got a deep, deep intellectual bench that could be

1001
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: tapped into that could solve the problems and and four

1002
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: solutions onto the American public in a way that could

1003
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: be transformative. It could be like the phoenix rising from

1004
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 1: the ashes, and America, just like in the Carter years

1005
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 1: when everybody thought it was done and finished and over,

1006
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: can come back to life and be the America that

1007
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: we inherited. You know, there is an answer here. And

1008
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,439
Speaker 1: the reason that I key pushing unity is for that

1009
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 1: reason that you know, this is a little myth about

1010
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: the presidency. Yeah, of course, the president is the most

1011
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 1: powerful job in the world. But you can never ever

1012
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: be a successful president unless you have great people around you.

1013
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 1: I can tell you right now I am ten to

1014
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 1: twenty two hundred times better of a talk show host

1015
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: because I surround myself with good people. I don't tell

1016
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: anybody on either my radio or TV staff what to

1017
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: do every day. I'm not barking orders. I send notes.

1018
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: I want to do this, I want to do that.

1019
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: I like this, Please get this. I heard that, get this.

1020
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: But short of that, I know they do their jobs,

1021
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 1: and you know what, it's a collaborative effort. The same

1022
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: with the president. No one president can manage this country alone.

1023
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 1: He needs people on the defense side, he needs people

1024
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: to deal with the economy. He needs people that understand energy, needs,

1025
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: people that understand education, health, human services, immigration, all of

1026
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 1: the above. And so, you know, I understand we get

1027
00:56:55,880 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 1: caught up in personalities. I understand people are emotionally involved

1028
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: in the person that they chose. One of the best

1029
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: things I've done in this election cycle for my own

1030
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 1: sanity is I made a decision that jold the signs,

1031
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,240
Speaker 1: you know what, and I'm only emotionally attached to making

1032
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: America the country it can be again. You know, I'm

1033
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: not stealing Trump's line. I'm saying America is in decline.

1034
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: I want to reverse that decline, and I think collaboratively

1035
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: we have the intellectual firepower within the Republican Party to

1036
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: do so. But do we have the will, the courage,

1037
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: the political courage the backbone and the spine to do

1038
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: the things necessary to right this ship. You get the

1039
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: last fifteen seconds go to say it's what they have

1040
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: to do. And my clarity came today when I accepted

1041
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: Trump today or whatever is that it's not one man

1042
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: is not run this country, and I have to trust

1043
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: that there is enough people around him to guide him.

1044
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: If the Republican establishment hates him, help him guide him.

1045
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: You still have a say, well, listen if if, if,

1046
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: if it is Donald Trump, and it appears more likely

1047
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: that it will be him. If it is, I would

1048
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: hope that he would listen to what I just said

1049
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: and create a coalition of the best, the smartest, the brightest.

1050
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: I've got to imagine in business. In my business, I

1051
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: surround myself with the best people. I would imagine his

1052
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: years in business, considering his successful he's done the same thing.

1053
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: If he does that as president, the odds dramatically increase

1054
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: that he could have a successful presidency. And that's good

1055
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: for the American people. This to me is about people

1056
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: suffering needlessly because of government. Anyway, Sherry, you get the

1057
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: you know what, stay on the line. We're gonna give Sherry.

1058
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: Sherry's berries for Valentine's All right, Sherry, we're gonna, We're

1059
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Speaker 1: gonna for Mother's What did I say? Sorry? Mother's Day? Hey.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank you Sean for talking to me

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Speaker 1: because I want People don't do the right thing. There

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Speaker 1: is no other option, Sherry. I'm just gonna say this.

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Speaker 1: You are what makes this country great. You're it. You

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Speaker 1: are a the quintessential example of what makes America the

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Speaker 1: great country. It is your heart and soul. It comes,

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Speaker 1: it just shines through the radio airways. Thank you.