WEBVTT - THE DOUBLE STANDARD VS JUSTICE - SOMEONE ALWAYS LOSES 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:05.480 Welcome to the Rogue Recap. Hot takes, cold facts, and 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:10.039 zero respect for the official narrative. Sit back, roll your eyes, 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:12.719 and let's recap rogue style. 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:32.760 What's up, everybody? Welcome to the Rogue Recap and number 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:35.800 nine of soundbites. I'm here with my dear friend Eric Eggers. 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:38.320 Eric, how are you, star Landa. It's good to see you. 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:40.280 Happy Wednesday, Thank you, thank you. 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:43.280 Yes, I love Wednesday because I get really excited. I 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:45.000 feel like I'm halfway through, and then the next two 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:46.879 days are super brutal because I got way too excited. 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:49.279 You know What's It's funny you say that, like I'm 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:51.280 okay with this. I did an interview maybe about a 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:58.040 month ago, and somebody called Thursday like Friday Eve, like 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:01.920 baby Friday. And I was like, you're an adult, right, 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:04.000 Like what are we doing? Like there's only five of them? 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:05.200 Why are we skipping past. 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:06.360 Some of these days? Yeah? 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:09.800 So I'm comfortable with Wednesday, but people celebrating the Thursday thing, 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:10.720 I'm less into that. 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:12.880 Well, if you're like me, your kids are getting out 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:16.759 of school and this is their last week my kids 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:18.840 and it is half. 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:21.520 Days and all kinds of weird stuff. I will tell you. 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:24.959 The thing that really irritated me today was my son 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:26.279 takes bag lunch to school. 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:27.840 He has the ability to buy lunch if he wants. 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:31.080 But my youngest, he's ten, and I sent him in 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:33.160 with some snacks and everything, right, because they're in really early, 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.160 he's got to be in like seven forty five, so 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:38.960 I send him with snacks. It's like breakfast snacks, lunch snacks, YadA, YadA, YadA, 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:40.560 because they're not getting unch because it's a half day. 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:43.240 So he comes home from school and he says, I 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:46.640 didn't get any snacks. I'm so hungry. I'm like, why 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:48.280 do you not have snacks? I gave you snacks. He goes, 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:49.240 they wouldn't let us eat them. 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:52.120 I'm like why. So I'm like, let me get this straight. 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.400 Every day, these kids have snack at nine thirty or 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:56.240 ten o'clock, which is late if you're up and you 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:57.640 haven't eaten since seven thirty. 0:01:57.640 --> 0:01:58.800 And my kid's not a breakfast kid. 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:01.880 Okay, fine, So now my son has not eaten. 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:03.880 It is noon, So now I have to make a 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:07.320 phone call. Right, It's an uncomfortable call. Hello, how are you? 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:10.560 Why are you starving my son? This is ridiculous. It's 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:12.200 inappropriate on every level. 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:14.720 Feed the children. Wasn't there a mantra of that a 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:15.919 while ago? I think that was a thing. 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:20.440 It actually used to be a global policy, not so 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:21.640 much in your school system. 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:26.280 Well, today we have a lot to talk about, sadly, 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:30.640 not good stuff. For those of you who are alive, 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:35.000 you've heard about the Carmelo Anthony and Austin Metcalf trial. 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:38.560 Austin Metcalf obviously is the victim and he was murdered. 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:41.519 But if you're online and you're watching X, you would 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:45.240 think that Austin Metcalf was the criminal and Carmelo Anthony 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:48.560 was the victim. Given some of the response to the 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:51.040 guilty verdict and the murder verdict that was handed down 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:55.640 yesterday to Carmelo Anthony, who suddenly, after flipping the bird 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.720 and holding guns and wearing dow rags and looking like 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:01.120 he was, you know, the thug of the of the week, 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:04.519 was crying in court. And now his mother is saying, 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:05.600 please be kind to my son. 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:09.440 I'm having the goodnesses. People have been kind. 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:10.800 They've been kind, I think to the tune of over 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:13.080 six hundred thousand dollars that he's apparently raised on this 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:16.440 GoFundMe effort. You know, I remember when this story happened. 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:18.960 I hadn't been paying attention to the trial, and then 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:20.160 I came out yesterday and a lot of the guys 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.160 in the office were watching, you know, the verdict and 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:25.079 the reaction to it, and you know, I didn't think 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:28.160 it would be a thing, but it's very much a thing. 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.359 As these clips were about to play show, you know, 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:33.200 it's kind of one of those two America's moments, and 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.360 it's I think it's useful to play these clips just 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.800 kind of to see for information and on some level 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:42.800 entertainment purposes, what the reaction is to this verdict has. 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:45.640 Been yes, And for just a sort of a note, 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.600 you know, this murder happened last April, so April of 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:49.080 twenty five. 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:50.240 This young man was murdered. 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:53.520 They've waited a full year in change to have their 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:56.840 day in court, and the court. Outside of the court 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:01.040 is being surrounded by a large throng of black protesters 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:03.880 screaming that the only good cracker is a dead cracker 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:05.400 and that's not the worst thing that we're going to 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:09.000 hear today. So we have a I cut here from 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:10.800 a woman I don't know who she is, nor do 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:13.680 I care, But she claims that she's a former prosecutor, 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:18.520 and she's calling the verdict quote love it a legal lynching. 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:21.960 Yet on and one day legal flanching they've had me. 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:26.320 You hear today, actor, I've said at a former proctic 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:30.400 you have again the one day legal lanching. They happened 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.960 in this slaughterhouse. We have had slaughterhouse. This is not 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:37.680 a courthouse. Even this parthhouse has been nine when you 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:40.400 will come here and you look like us clattering you 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:43.040 that judge intentionally. 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:47.640 See, So let's let's touch on that for a minute. 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:50.039 I hazard to guess this woman has never been in 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:52.000 a slaughterhouse, but I don't have that on good authority, 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:55.400 So we'll leave that for there for a minute. The 0:04:55.400 --> 0:05:00.680 worst part of this hearing, of this trial was this 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:06.040 young man's own witnesses that they brought up, and many 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:09.119 of them were black, some of these witnesses were white, 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:11.840 and they all testified to the same thing, whether they 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:13.760 were for the defense or the prosecution, they said the 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:17.160 same thing that Carmelo Anthony was the aggressor, that Carmelo 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:20.040 Anthony was asked to leave more than fifteen times, and 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:23.359 that Carmelo Anthony had his hand in his bag on 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:25.680 a weapon, which obviously the kids don't know he has 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:28.039 a weapon because it is already a felony to bring 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:31.680 a weapon on school grounds. So that's your first mistake, right, 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:34.400 No matter what, the kid's going to jail. And now 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:36.440 she's screaming it's illegal lynching. I'm like, where did you 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:37.360 get your little degree? 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:42.039 Yeah, she has a different definition or understanding the definition 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:45.479 of lynching than I do. It was a legal proceeding 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:48.400 well done, and it was a conviction. 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:48.800 Yeah. 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.240 I mean, look, people don't like the verdict, and it's 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:54.040 interesting to explore the reason why they don't like the verdict. 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:55.800 They don't like the verdict for what it represents, I 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.840 think in their minds, and that to be charitable, right, 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.200 like to try to understand the perspective of the people 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:02.880 who are in these clips that we're gonna play. I 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:06.520 think they think it was in contrary to you, as 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:09.799 you just noted that the multiple like fifteen plus witness testimony. 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.960 They think that a white man was the aggressor. 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:18.679 This kid, Carmelo Anthony like defended himself use this weapon 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:22.159 in justifiable self defense, and that was found guilty of 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.960 murder as a result. I know some people have said 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.279 that they should have gotten manslaughter at most, but I 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:30.240 believe Texas doesn't actually offer that as an option, right, 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:33.000 So it's like either capital murder or murder one. So, 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:34.960 I mean, so some of it's just like the law. 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:37.360 But I think that's what it comes down to you. 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:41.799 They're upset because they believe, again contrary to witness testimony 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:44.880 for both of them, that this was an act done 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.120 in self defense. And that's just not what anybody else said. 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:51.400 No, And I think additionally, if we're going to pontificate 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.560 over this, right, so if you're walking around and let 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:58.080 me just hedge you know, I'm in New York City, 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.920 I take the subway, walk down the street. I've been mugged, 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:04.480 I've been jumped, I've been all the things. I get 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:09.400 carrying a pocket knife or carrying a les lethal gun 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.600 or something to that effect to protect yourself when you're 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:13.880 in a certain arena. You were going to a school 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:16.280 for a track meet, if you are bringing a weapon 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:18.800 in your backpack that you know you're not allowed to bring, 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:22.040 there's premeditation there. You're thinking about it. So if you 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:24.880 show up under this you know, track tent or whatever 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.960 it was, and you know this this sporting event and 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.080 they're saying to you, you gotta go, and you have 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:33.160 your hand on this weapon. You're preparing for something that 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:36.440 is on altercation. Now, many of us have seen these 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:39.440 things online where two kids are fighting. So you know, 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:42.720 kids fight, kids get in fights, kids get in brawls, 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:43.520 as we've seen. 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:45.720 The quote unquote teen takeovers. And I use that term 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:46.600 super loosely. 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:50.680 But the idea that even let's just say for a 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:53.080 second that I'm going to give credence to the idea 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:56.000 that Austin Metcalf pushed him and he's bigger than you know, 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:59.560 this kid, It doesn't give you the right to stab him. 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:02.280 Like if I get shoved on the subway, might allowed 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:04.280 to stab the person that chows me. No, that's not 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:05.440 the direct response. 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:07.920 Yeah, you know what, I'm gonna push back a little 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:12.640 bit because you keep using this term weapon And Jasmine Crockett, 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:15.960 you know no lesson authority on like knives and weaponry 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.280 than the former representative. I guess she's still a current 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:22.880 representative Crockett. I think she got a different take on it, right, 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:24.560 we got Crockett talking about this, and. 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:31.160 I do have that ready. Was it a switch? I 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:32.640 don't know what it was like. 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.720 It seemed like it was a multi tool, almost like 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:39.280 a Swiss arm. Yeah, like with the little scissors and 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:44.280 everything and whatever. So it was small. Well, I would 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:46.520 argue the size of it alone, you wouldn't even think 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:51.880 it's a daily weapon. And if it was one of 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:55.080 the little like I don't know, like I do. Well, 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:57.280 that's why he went to his coach and was like, 0:08:58.360 --> 0:08:59.720 but I don't think I heard him that. 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:02.800 So let's let's let's think for one more second. So 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.240 we'll just go back to this. We had box cutters 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:09.640 right that murdered the flight attendants on nine to eleven. 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:11.719 That doesn't seem like such a big weapon with such 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:13.680 a big blade, but they were able to be murdered. 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:17.520 We have people being stabbed with screwdrivers, which are typically 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.480 used for screws. So the idea that the size of 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.760 the weapon or the blade does not I mean, he 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:25.680 literally went for his heart. 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:27.079 Right, like if you hit him with a brick and 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:32.319 he died, Like yeah, like this Jasmin Crockett Tellet, it's 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:34.680 something you would use in a kindergarten class for arts, 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:37.600 and craft, But in fact it was what makes the 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:39.640 deadly weapon, I believe is the fact that he died 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:42.240 as a result of it. Yes, you know, I remember 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:44.880 this case of uh this. I think this army ranger 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:48.040 who would kill the guy in the bar fight with 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:50.320 just with thrown a punch and he went to prison 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:52.520 and luckily he was able to escape in the movie 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:54.560 con Air. But the point is like in that thing, 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.240 you know, like just punching the guys in that movie 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:58.960 went to prison. Point ever, was like yeah, cool, you know, 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:00.760 as long as he's the are back at the end. 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:04.120 So yeah, I mean it's a deadly weapon because unfortunately 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:06.720 someone whose murders results of it, I think the size 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:08.720 of the weapon seems less significant. 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.040 I agree with you, and I think if we listen 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:12.840 to these two clips I'm going to play right now. 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:17.640 So these are people that are outside the courthouse in McKinney, Texas, 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:22.640 and they are standing there, they are protesting, and they 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:25.439 are being filmed by various citizen journalists as well as 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:29.480 you know, regular news outlets. And I just want to 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:32.000 preface before we play it to give you a little disclaimer. 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:34.240 A lot of custom in this there's a lot of 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:38.280 nasty words. And these are not spoken by Eric or myself. 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:42.680 These are people black people standing outside who have some 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:44.440 choice words for white people. 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:52.320 No matter, I don't want to these games. 0:10:52.640 --> 0:11:18.480 I want to plight these cracking game So hautlack. You know. 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:31.600 That, and you say, let's play the next cut before 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:32.120 we comment. 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:32.920 Here's another one. 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.280 Yeah, I'm even slain. 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:39.120 Brock would have been with him. Fuck you see, they 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:43.360 should have both a rest day Brock's room. 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:45.000 That one should the day. 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:50.240 I expend the money all right behind me. 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:53.199 That called me, I didn't call me. 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:57.160 I'll let you go. 0:11:57.800 --> 0:11:58.120 I like that. 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:00.800 I like the first clip Ember when they had They 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:02.960 called it like the enhanced Games in Vegas a couple 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.839 weeks ago, where the athletes were like, we're participating in 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:08.480 these different kind of sport events. Uh, but they're allowed 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:10.960 to be on dope, Like they're allowed to take steroids 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:13.440 to do whatever the idea was to see if they 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:14.640 could break like a world record. 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:15.800 So they're allowed to take. 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:17.320 The enhanced games. Yeah. 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:20.360 I like the idea of the crackhead games like that 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:22.800 would actually I would pay to watch that, Like like, 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:25.439 here's just a bunch of crackheads doing crackhead. 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:29.160 Things, and I think it would do well. Actually it is. 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:31.480 I will say this, I think anybody, like in that 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.040 first clip, if you weren't watching and you're just listening, 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:36.120 there's a guy who's quite agitating this in a white 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:38.439 guy I think, tried to go up and like try 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.640 to give him a Hug're like, look, I'm a white guy, 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:42.679 Like we can just get along. That to me is 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.120 what I think you could be considered a crackhead move. 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:46.360 I don't think he was going to go well for 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:49.480 that guy, and it wasn't going well. The second clip 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:51.959 where they're saying that the twin brothers should also be dead, 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:54.880 I mean, look again, they clearly have a perspective that 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.599 the people, the white boys in the tent, were the 0:12:57.640 --> 0:12:59.920 aggressors and they committed a crime and trying to get 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:04.439 this guy out, and just you know, who is to 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:06.600 say what happened in the tent other than the people 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:09.240 who testified about what happened in the tent and what 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:11.400 they said is clearly like that seems to be the 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:13.640 most important piece of evidence that this conviction hinges on. 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:13.960 Yeah. 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.760 Yeah, And to that point, the people that testified to 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:22.080 the activities, the events, the words, the actions that were 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:25.760 taken spoken committed under that tent were both from the 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:31.000 defense and the prosecution, and the defense rested that the. 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:36.400 Testimony was so horrible from when they described the autopsy 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:40.679 that the jury had to take a break because this 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:45.559 little weapon that Jasmine Crockett is talking about hurt him 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:49.679 so badly, killed him in such a gruesome way, as 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:54.520 he led out, that the jury could not bear it. Meanwhile, 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:55.720 remember you. 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:59.439 Have Austin's twin brother and his mother and father in 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:03.400 the courtroom who not only have to hear this testimony. 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:05.960 From all these kids who will forever be scarred by 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:06.840 this because you can't. 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:08.640 Unsee it if you have a heart, I would hope, 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:12.640 and they have to hear it, and then they have 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.280 to go outside and see a bunch of people saying 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:17.599 we want to kill your other son. You should have 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:22.400 died with him as a parent, God forbid, I would 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:24.840 have been out of my mind. 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:28.560 The father who originally said, we don't want to make. 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:30.960 The business about race. It's not about race, it's about humanity. 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:35.160 And while I commend him for that, you may not 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:39.040 think it's about race, but there is an entire environment. 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.080 That does well. I think that's the point, right, like, 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:42.440 that's what all these reactions are about. 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:45.000 And you on the last episode that we did last week, 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:46.560 made the point about like I think it was a 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:49.240 killing in Atlanta, and you said it happened to be 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.320 two African Americans involved in it. But like if the 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:55.040 race were different, then the reactions clearly would have been 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:56.440 different to coverage of the story. It would have been 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:58.520 very different. That's really what it comes down to. These 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:02.680 are people who are upset that a black man was 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:05.640 convicted of killing a white person, and it is you know, 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.680 I told you, I've seen people are posting about this, 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.400 and one of the comments I saw was the days 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:15.280 of the OJ verdicts are over. And I was like, man, 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:18.960 what an interesting thought, like and I guess, yeah, Like 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:21.840 the OJ thought is, like there was a time the 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:25.280 OJ verdict represented a black man not being held accountable 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:30.120 for killing white people. Ah for I guess reasons, mostly 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:32.240 because it's like, hey, he's black, so kind of we 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:34.000 get we get some every once in a while, and 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:37.040 that's you know, that is a real perspective, and that 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:40.400 is perspective that people wanted to talk about in public 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:41.560 during these protests. 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:44.840 I think I think there is a larger issue. 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:47.080 And I said this last week in my own shows 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:50.520 and with you, which is that while these things may 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:55.000 be uncomfortable, they are nonetheless true. Right, it may be 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:58.320 difficult to have a real conversation about the amount of 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:02.600 black on white crime, the amount of Third world migrant 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:06.680 crime against you know, native born Europeans and people of England, 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:09.920 you know, people of Ireland. It may be very difficult 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:13.840 to have these conversations, but the crime is happening nonetheless, 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:18.880 and the idea that words are more offensive or attention 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:23.480 to said matters are more offensive than the offense is 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:25.920 shocking to me. And I can't understand it. Like you 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:29.240 talk to people and I'm like, you know, we've already 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:32.120 forgotten about, you know, the eighty year old guy who 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:35.720 is having dinner alone and then a career criminal who 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.400 was black pushed the eighty year old white man down 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:39.800 the subway steps and he died. 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:44.320 You know, no one cares. It's done, It's over, onto 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:44.960 the next crime. 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.880 Okay, So then we'll talk about Irina Karutzka, a young 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:52.200 white Ukrainian refugee on a light rail train, murdered in 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:55.600 cold blood in front of tons of witnesses on the train, 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:58.920 none of whom did one damn thing. That to me 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:02.440 is another mystery by a career criminal who happened to 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:05.280 be black. I don't see anybody protesting the fact that 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.240 he's not going to be required to stand trial. The 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:12.720 judge ruled him incompetent to stand trial, so he will 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.440 not be put on the witness stand. 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:16.159 He will not. 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:20.880 So then does the judge who released him go? Does 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:23.280 he get put on trial? Does she get put on trial. 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:25.000 Because she put him back on the street and said 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:25.760 he was competent to go? 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:26.240 List right? 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:29.359 And then you look at the grandmother who was murdered 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:33.520 in Atlanta. She was black by a black career criminal. 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:37.960 Nobody's talking about it. Why doesn't that matter? The idea 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:40.920 that this is not stoked, that this is not taught, 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:44.399 that this is not paid for, is utter nonsense. 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:49.280 It is there's definitely a double standard in something. You know, 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:51.680 it's an uncomfortable thing to talk about. We talk about 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:55.040 this in my office sometimes because I'll see posts on 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:57.920 social media on certain accounts and it'll be, you know, 0:17:57.960 --> 0:17:59.120 it's got a racial undertone. 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:00.719 I would say, quite on, it's a little bit. 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:03.280 I've seen the they're racist, right, like there's people who 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:06.240 are racist online against black people, and I was talking 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:07.800 about that account, and I was talking about, like, well, 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:11.440 what does it say about people that follow these racist accounts? 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:14.240 And somebody was like, well, yeah, but this is the 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:16.840 standard applies to the left, because like there's lots of 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.879 people who follow people like Hassan Piker who says lots 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:23.240 of crazy racist things just the other way, but no 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:25.920 one kind of holds that against them for following somebody 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:28.480 like that. And I was just, yeah, it's interesting, and 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:31.479 I think it's existed for so long that you kind 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:32.800 of have to like And I think it's one of 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:34.560 the interesting things about the conversations I have with you 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:36.600 is it's interesting to kind of hold them up and 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:38.440 explore them and kind of do a little biopsy and 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:39.879 like why is it uncomfortable? 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:41.600 Yeah? And should it be? 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:43.959 And you know, I think that's kind of a lot 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:45.879 of conversations like that because of clips like that. And 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:47.640 I think you have another clip of a gentleman who 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:49.680 talks about like, really, what it comes down to is 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:54.560 people are treating the victim like the criminal, yep. And 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:57.600 they're treating the criminal based on the conviction like the 0:18:57.680 --> 0:18:59.399 victim Yep, here we go. 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:03.160 Only black people are at the point where they will 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:07.879 feel sorry for the criminal and the murderer more than 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:11.600 the actual person who's not with us anymore, the actual 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:14.879 victim they don't care about. Everyone feels sorry for this 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:18.719 little monster. I never felt comfortable around you, niggas. That's 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:21.840 why I got the hell away from y'all. Y'all think 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:24.000 this is a game, like, Oh, you're just saying this 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:27.800 for likes and clicks. No, I'm not even near you niggas. 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:29.719 My kids to school, go to school with you, niggas. 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:33.320 This ain't for likes. This is for real, like growing 0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:35.000 up with my friends will come over, hey, my dad 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:36.720 would check them at the door. Listen, man, you gotta 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:40.000 take that do rag off. This do rag ain't allowed here. 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:44.840 My dad didn't like do rags because he watches the news. 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:48.240 You see who's doing the killing. Take that do rag 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:50.520 off before you come over. And that's all. And you know, 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:52.200 when I was a kid, I didn't understand, like, why 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:55.840 is dad like this? What's going on with dad, mam? 0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:58.639 Why is he tripping? Why is he embarrassing me? My 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:01.320 mom sat me down, told me to listen, your dad's 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:03.679