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Speaker 1: allowed me to you know, whether I'm doing uh deal

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Speaker 1: or no deal where we would tape you know, ten

427
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: shows and one day so the season is over. I

428
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 1: mean a g T is under twenty America's got talent

429
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: is under twenty days of work for the entire year.

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Speaker 1: That's what shark tech. It's not a part of nine

431
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Speaker 1: pot of six. I get you producing a movie to

432
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: you must be like four years from now, the thing's

433
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: coming out like that. I used to like get the

434
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 1: cameras and then like it's already being produced and edited.

435
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 1: I really do get that. Well, you know that that's

436
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,719
Speaker 1: the truth. You know, when when I got launched, you know,

437
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: in the public eye in the eight that started doing

438
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: HBO specials, and then I went over to st Elsewhere,

439
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,719
Speaker 1: which was good for me because St. Elsewhere was an

440
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 1: ensemble show with twelve people, so I only had three

441
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 1: days a week. But when when that started launching in

442
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: the early eighties, I started getting offered movies, and I

443
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: started doing movies in the early eighties, and I did

444
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: about ten movies and then I said to my wife,

445
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 1: I can't, I can't. I don't want to do this anymore.

446
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: The TEDI it's tedious this shot, this shot from the

447
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: other angle, the shop from the other angle. It's tedious

448
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: for you, I would imagine, you know they do. If

449
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: they're they're you're lucky. If you do two pages of

450
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: work a day, I get it. There's nothing for me.

451
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 1: There was nothing creative about it. Was the writers and

452
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: the director's medium. You know. It was just so slow,

453
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: and I didn't have any control over it. And I

454
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 1: just said, I don't want to. I don't want to

455
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: go away for three months and live in a place

456
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't want to live in, and and be

457
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 1: away from my family and my kids. I just like

458
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 1: to live my life. To take away for this audience

459
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: with what you're saying is as being a kid trapped

460
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 1: in classes being told everything's wrong with you. When all

461
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 1: you want to do is bust out. You know, people

462
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 1: have to find what works for them. Like, don't try

463
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: to suppress who you think you love, are connected to,

464
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 1: or what you think you love doing. It's not it's

465
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: not you, it's them. Like you found your If if

466
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: someone just jammed you into making movies, you'd be very

467
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 1: you'd be a failure overall. I don't mean that. I

468
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: just mean if you started out no, but you know that.

469
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: The truth is I have no You know, I didn't

470
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: have an aspiration to be a comedian. I didn't have

471
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: an aspiration to be a movie starter. You know, maybe

472
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Speaker 1: if I were to stay, I ended up turning down

473
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: movies that went on too huge success. I have no

474
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: regrets about that because for me, success, I'll tell you

475
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: in my definition of success is contentment. And when I

476
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: found success was April nine, nineteen seventy seven, is the

477
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 1: day that I got up on stage and did that

478
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: stand up comedy. You know, I know that date because

479
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 1: that's being true to who you are. That's interesting to me.

480
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 1: That's being true to who you are and to to

481
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: your your mental issues that you've had. So that's what

482
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: that's what I find to be interesting, like it's it

483
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: has given you. If the thing that you love the

484
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: most and that was your success, then that's the thing

485
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: that you were born that way. I mean you weren't

486
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: if you had been in that box. What is success?

487
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: It's success, notoriety, success, money. What is success? Feeling inside?

488
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 1: Like you're fulfilled? Just what you said, contentment. So you

489
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 1: found something that fed you who you really are? Like that?

490
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: You you just something. You know these people and I say,

491
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: these people in the world don't like what they're doing

492
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: each and every day. You know. In fact, it's become

493
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: synonymous with even in advertising they talk about hump day.

494
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 1: You know, hump day is Wednesday, when when you're halfway

495
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: through the to the of the week so you can

496
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: get to the weekend, so you don't have to do

497
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: the ship that you're doing that just pays the rent.

498
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 1: So the point is, I don't like that. So that's life,

499
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 1: especially now from this perspective at sixty six years old,

500
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: you just spend most of your life. You hate going

501
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: to school, you hate going to work. You're just trying

502
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: to pay the rent. You're just then I always say,

503
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: you've got to find one thing in like, it's not

504
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: the thing that may make you the living one thing

505
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 1: and like that you're passionate about. I would imagine that

506
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 1: when you came up with the Skinny Girl drink, it

507
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: was just like you wanted something that's enjoyable, that you

508
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: wanted to drink, that would you didn't have to worry

509
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: about you're putting on weight. You just it's for you,

510
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: that's what you wanted, not because you thought that's what

511
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: every It just turns out there's a lot of people

512
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: like you that want the same thing. But but but

513
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: the point is that I just wanted to find something.

514
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: I was excited when I started Yuck Yucks every time

515
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: that I would call in on on Sundays to go

516
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: get time spots on the stage. I couldn't and he said,

517
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 1: I can go on Tuesday night, and I can go

518
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: on Thursday night. All I thought about in my other

519
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 1: work was Tuesday night. I can't wait for Tuesday night.

520
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 1: One more day for Tuesday night and then Thursday night.

521
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: That kind of excitement, that's this for me, that's this

522
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 1: right now for me, Like, that's this for me. Your

523
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: friend has said three percent of the TV show, I'm

524
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 1: doing this. I've just gotten another podcast and there'll be

525
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: a third like I'm I'm loving this because I'm getting

526
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: to talk to you and you're feeding me and we're connecting.

527
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: And I didn't know anything about you, and I read

528
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: about you and I don't read about people, but I

529
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: do because I want to connect. So that's this for me,

530
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: well even for me, you know, even my I do

531
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: a podcast now, I do a podcast with my daughter.

532
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: And originally I was approached by a company that said,

533
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: let's do the let's do a podcast. And you know,

534
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 1: I've only done We've only been on for a few months.

535
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: And in the second month I left that company because

536
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: I said, listen, I don't want you know, there are

537
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: certain I need to do it. I need to sit

538
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: in a room with my daughter and my friends. I

539
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: have no um at this point, I have no sponsors.

540
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: I don't want any You want to just express yourself

541
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: and I don't want to be behoven to anybody or anything.

542
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: And I've at a point, right I got you. I

543
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: get you, I really get you. Passion is the key

544
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 1: finding something you're passionate about, and it doesn't mean one thing,

545
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,239
Speaker 1: many thing, And at this point in my life, you know,

546
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: time management is even more uh, prevalent because when you're

547
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: in your sixties, you know, yeah, you want to do

548
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: things that you're passionate about during that time. Yeah, so

549
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: comedy now, I want to really talk about comedy. So

550
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: you said, that's when you're true to yourself, that's when

551
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: you're alive. Are you? Is it just because there's all

552
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: this pent up and it's so nice to express because

553
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: that's the only thing I miss about train Wrecked television

554
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: was me being able to be the Greek course and

555
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: and and the comedy of it. Or is it that

556
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: you really are just connecting and feeding off this audience.

557
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: Is it what you're giving what isn't? No, it's more

558
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: about it's more about being a panacea to for survival.

559
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: I uh in that. My best analogy of that is,

560
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: you know, I stand up comedy in front of a

561
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,239
Speaker 1: live audience in the moment is the equivalent for me?

562
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: I I during COVID I'm not doing it. But even

563
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: at this age, I still love thrill rides and I

564
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: love roller coasters, and you know whatever, you scare the

565
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: ship out of me. Nothing keeps me in the moment.

566
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,959
Speaker 1: And because of all my mental health issues and and

567
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: you don't have to have my mental health issues. You

568
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: know that we are trained um to um worry about

569
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:20,959
Speaker 1: what's happening next and constantly considering what happened before. And

570
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: very few of us live in the now. And there

571
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: is nothing cleaner and clearer than living in the now,

572
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: especially when you have something like I have O C D.

573
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: O C D is the fear if I shake your hand,

574
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to be sick. I'm not sick now, I'm

575
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: going to be sick. And last year I had the

576
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: flu and I don't want to get that again. When

577
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm on stage in that moment like I was, you know,

578
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: April nineteen seventy seven, when that fear struck. That same

579
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,719
Speaker 1: fear as like going over that first hill in the

580
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: in the on the roller coaster. You know, in the moment,

581
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: I was just grasping and pulling things, and I can't

582
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: think of anything outside of this moment, and any time

583
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: you could as a human being living in the moment.

584
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: That is the most pure essence of who you are,

585
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: what you do, how you can be productive. But but yes,

586
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: but the only reason you're scared is because of them.

587
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,959
Speaker 1: If you were standing alone in the room, you wouldn't

588
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: be scared. So you're scared because what if they don't laugh?

589
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: Like that's the definition of success in that moment. I later,

590
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: I'll tell you if we have time. I did stand

591
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: up comedy one time. I decided, and ten days later

592
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: I went to the store, the comedy store in New

593
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: York City. Um, during the pandemic, the first date comedy

594
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: clubs opened up again. I didn't consider the fact that

595
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: there would be people sitting six ft apart with masks on,

596
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: and like, that's not that the pandemic isn't that funny? Um,

597
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: But I did it. And I talked to Chris Rock

598
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: and Ellen and Kathy Griffin in a bunch of different

599
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: comedity Kevin Nealon to learn about the craft of it right,

600
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: and UM, I was together as much as I could

601
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: be with ten days to prepare, meaning the day before

602
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: I started to prepare what I was going to say,

603
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: I'm like you, I am not going to do this

604
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: for six months, Like it just went up. But I

605
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: felt good because I felt organized, like you, Like I

606
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: felt organized in my mind, like just some general idea

607
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: of what I was going to do. I I didn't

608
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: have anything really written down, but I just had to

609
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: so that felt comfortable. Even if they didn't laugh, I

610
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: would have felt okay because I went out and I

611
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: played my best game. But but that wasn't a roller coaster.

612
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: So I'm interested in you for you. It's so like

613
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: So I don't want to be prepared. I want to

614
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: be comfortable. I'm incredibly comfortable with discomfort because discomfort is

615
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: what keeps me in the moment. Discomfort doesn't allow my

616
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: you know, I'm comfortable lying in my bed at night

617
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: with no responsibilities. It's the word. It's a nightmare for me.

618
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: Oh well, I wasn't that comfortable. I mean believe I

619
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: was walking up to do it. But I get what

620
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: you're saying. You really walk in and you stand up

621
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: and you have no idea what you're going to talk

622
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: about whatsoever. No, no, no, I do now. Listen, I've

623
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: been in it for forty years, and I you know,

624
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: obviously a plethora of material, But the best moments and

625
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: the best nights for me are when you can take

626
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: me off that beaten path. So if I go out now,

627
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: and obviously there's people who have expectations of what they're

628
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: going to see, especially if it's my own concerts, in

629
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: my own shows, but if there is a technical problem

630
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: or something happens in the room or something, those are

631
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: the joy those are and I don't mind even in

632
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: the moment tanking and then spend my my life just

633
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: trying to dig myself out of my little hole. Those

634
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: are the moments that are that seemed to be the

635
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: most productive for me. I like that kind of Kevin

636
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: Nelon said to me, because I said, how does I

637
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: was asking, and I found it fascinating the different style,

638
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: like each person as their own style. I didn't never

639
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: thought of that, Like somebody could be super quirky or

640
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: you know, Richard Lewis and like or um mine was

641
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: like ranting minds, like something I'm aggravated about. I didn't

642
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: know that someone told me that because I didn't know

643
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: anything about this. I love the craft of what you do,

644
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: Like there's such an interesting respect for this craft. Well,

645
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: comedy only works, and I think most things work, even

646
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: business with authenticity. You know, if you're going to act

647
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: like something, then I think that the public can see

648
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: through that. So you know, just being yourself, but that's

649
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: how you can fail. I didn't get how. I didn't

650
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: get how Jerry Seifel could ever tank and you just

651
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: said you could tank, And Kevin neal AND's like, it's

652
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: just when you're taking chances is when you could tank.

653
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: Like if you're not taking risk, you could be funny,

654
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: but you're not taking risks. So it's sort of what

655
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: you're describing. But for me, you know, I have no

656
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: problem saying to the audience, you know, I just won't

657
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: fucking blank or or or something happened in the moment

658
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: and then you get out of that moment. You know.

659
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: I told a story in my book. I was playing

660
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: um Radio City Music Hall and and the audience was roaring.

661
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: So there was one guy. There's seven thousand people in

662
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: the room, and there's one guy that's not making any

663
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: kind of contact with me. He looks kind of often

664
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: at distance, he's not and he's in the front row.

665
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: And you know, when you get on a roll, it's

666
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: kind of magic because you you kind of have to

667
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: work less. It's like pressing the gas and then you

668
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: can coast for a couple of minutes. Yeah, so everybody's

669
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: everybody's going in this. The room is electric. But for

670
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: whatever reason, that one negative Twitter comment or whatever, I'm

671
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: looking at the guy and I in the moment, because

672
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: I didn't think like why would you stop the rhythm?

673
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: Why would you do? But in the moment, I just said, Hey,

674
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: it's one fucking guy, the guy in the blue sweater.

675
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: What is it with you? You don't look at me,

676
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: You're not responding like everybody else. What have I done?

677
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: What have I done? And the lady beside him when

678
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 1: he's blind, and I and I and I, without even thinking,

679
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: I responded like the whole room didn't hear that. But

680
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: I said he's blind, and you could hear the air

681
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: going at the room, you know, and not like, oh

682
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: my god, and my heart into my stomach, and it

683
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: was silent. I went from the fucking top of the

684
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: roller coaster to the bottom and totally this derailed. And

685
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: I was just standing there in the moment, and I

686
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: could feel the sweat from within just coming out. You

687
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: could see the sheen on my face in front of

688
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: the whole audience. Go. But in that moment, and and

689
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: then just in that moment, I'm just digging and digging

690
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: and digging. And then I just said what I thought

691
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: and and it came out without any thought. I went,

692
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: can I ask one more question? I'd probably room comedy

693
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: for the night. But let me let me just ask

694
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,959
Speaker 1: one question. The man is blind, Why the funk would

695
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: you spend money on front row tickets? You could put

696
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: him in the balcony. This is a risk. But they roared,

697
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: they ended up roaring, and I got them back. Oh

698
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: my god. But that's that's what Kevin Nilans was talking about.

699
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 1: You took the sickest risk ever though. That's my point,

700
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: like that's the that's a risk. In the moment, it

701
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: wasn't a risk. It just was real, you know what

702
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: I mean. That was my real question. That's where I went, well,

703
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: that's the true thing. But that's fearlessness. Because when I

704
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: was doing the prep before I got really controlled in

705
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: that syndicated talk show, I was doing the one that

706
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: you came on, and it was produced by Ellen and

707
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: it was like it was did very well in all

708
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: these different places. It was good. And the EP said

709
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: to me, if you think it's saying, if you feel

710
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: it now maybe sometimes if I think it, I'm going

711
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: to write it in my book. I might think about

712
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: it if I'm saying something I'm gonna be canceled for

713
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: because but but if you think it's say it, but

714
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: that's a crazy, crazy story. I know I had not

715
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: heard that story, but that's sort of But that's back

716
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: to what you were saying at the beginning of Nike says,

717
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: just do it, you know, and then and then deal

718
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: with the ramis ramifications, Like even if you're in a

719
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: show edited, you know, as a comedian. That's a lot

720
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: scarier now because a lot of my friends have been

721
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: canceled or lost big accounts. And but I kind of

722
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: just do that. Like even in investing, you know what

723
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: I mean, if something just looks good, I boom. You know,

724
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: you may If you have five investments, three can go sell.

725
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: Two could end up just being, you know, tenfold what

726
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: the other three would have been if they were. It's

727
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: that unadulterated thought that you you you need and I

728
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: really do get that. What part of you is is

729
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: good at business? Is an entrepreneur? Is a brander? Or

730
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: are you just living what you're doing and you have

731
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: good people around you helping you know? I have, Uh,

732
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: First of all, I don't have a big team, and

733
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: I have an entrepreneurial spirit, which is probably equal to

734
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: whatever my creative spirit is. I've been very um active

735
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: for as long as I've been in in show business,

736
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: and you know, my fear was, I've been aware of money.

737
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: I've always been aware of money. From eleven years old

738
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 1: I had that was my fifteen dollars that i've So

739
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 1: it scared me when I started making money in this business.

740
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: Um to not have you And also it's not you

741
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: don't I'm lucky now, I've got a career that's going along.

742
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: But you know, I didn't know that I would make

743
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: any money next week. Every job feels like your last job.

744
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: You know, I can, I can do a g T

745
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: and maybe they don't call me back next year and

746
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: whatever money is coming in. So I was very concerned about,

747
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: you know, being able to I've been married for forty

748
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: two years, I have three kids, I have two grandchildren.

749
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: I I felt responsible for not only taking care of

750
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: myself but my family. So you had money noise. I

751
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 1: call that money noise. It's just not a calm space

752
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: for you. Maybe it is now, but for a time

753
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: when you first or successful, you don't know if you

754
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: can buy a pair of seekers you are you actually

755
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: don't understand even though it's irrational. No, but the first

756
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: time I've talked about this, I got the first time

757
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: just from comedy. When I got like in the bank

758
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: at that time in the in the eighties, I got

759
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: a c D, a term deposit, you know, that was

760
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: paying off twelve cent and you had to lock it

761
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: in for ten years. So now I had two hundred

762
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: dollars in the bank and I've taken five thousand dollars

763
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: and locked it away for twelve years. But that's what

764
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: But that was worth the seven thousand dollars that was

765
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: throwing off your guarantee for the next It makes you

766
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: feel safe, That's that's right. And also any time I

767
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: ever invested, it was what you know, I realized that,

768
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: I say this now, everything everything we do in business

769
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: is fourth grade maths. After fourth grade, as long as

770
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: you can add and subtract, you know, the biggest investments

771
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: I've done just made sense to me. You know when

772
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: when um, when Vegas was the biggest, you know, I

773
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: started getting jobs, and so what happened was people were

774
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: saying that, you know, Vegas was the biggest growing city

775
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: in the world. You know, at the time I was

776
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: playing Vegas, and they was saying, like it was really

777
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: hard to even get a plumber in l A or

778
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: a tile guy or even there because everything you know,

779
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 1: Steve Winden was building the mirage and they were building

780
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: all this. So, you know, because I used to be

781
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: in the carpet business, my buddy and I we ended

782
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: up buying this is a good business. We ended up

783
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: buying for nothing all the dirt around the airport and

784
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: we built these, um we called them commercial conducts, but

785
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: we built these these little warehouses where I said, if

786
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: you're a tile guy or you're a plumber, you're looking.

787
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: I saw that they were storing. My friend was that

788
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: guy was doing property management, and they had all these

789
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: warehouses and they were being rented out to all the

790
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: different trades. And I said, well, why don't we just

791
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: sell them those with the way to sell them, just

792
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: to say instead of the rent you're paying your mortgage,

793
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: that's a rite off. You can be here for much

794
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: less money and you have an asset. He said, that's

795
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: a good idea. These a little tilt ups cost nothing.

796
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: So we bought all the land around the airport. And

797
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: I couldn't build them faster than I could sell them.

798
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: And then when I was in Vegas, I like KB

799
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: homes and all these UH home people. I was reading

800
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: about they were doing. There was lineups for people auctioning

801
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: the homes right they were selling. All people were retiring there,

802
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: and they would build. They would go out into the

803
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: desert and they'd line up a track of homes with

804
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: two thousand homes that were gonna build, and all these

805
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: people were buying homes. And I said, well, if all

806
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: these people are buying homes, because I would drive out

807
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: just as I was fascinated. I didn't want a home there.

808
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: I didn't want to buy one of these homes, but

809
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: I would drive out. I would say, how do these

810
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: people like, they're all gonna live here? Where are they

811
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: gonna like? I got an idea, So I would buy

812
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: an acre of dirt leading into the communities, and when

813
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 1: the communities were built up, I would build a little

814
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 1: strip mall with a car wash and UH and uh

815
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: and and a gas station because I knew that all

816
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: these people who weren't going to work or have to

817
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: drive somewhere, this is the place that they would get gas.

818
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: And I built those on every corner and I ended

819
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: up selling, But it just made sense to me. It

820
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: was like when I was a kid and I was

821
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: playing the knop so and I've done that more than

822
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: more than show business. But it's not something I I promote.

823
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: It's just fun for me. I'm playing real live monopoly. Well,

824
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: what has been your greatest business success? I don't mean

825
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: what you get what you love the most? Is what

826
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: has been your greatest financial business project? Probably those you

827
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: know I ended up selling. We ended up having, you know,

828
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 1: eight little strip malls and gas stations, and I sold

829
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: all of them. Interesting, So it's never it's often not.

830
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: Stacy's Peter Chips was not the sandwiches that they the

831
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: sandwich business that they were set out to build. It

832
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: ended up being the leftoverbread they needed to have. So

833
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 1: they never ran out of sandwiches and they made Peter

834
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: out of that, and that's what she ended up selling

835
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: for hundreds and hundreds of millions dollars twenty years ago.

836
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: It's always amazing. It's never going to be in the

837
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: form that you think it's going to take. Well, but

838
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: that's again to be open to, like you got to

839
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: see it, just do it. That's why I said, exactly,

840
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: what do you think is funny? Like what do you

841
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 1: laugh at as a comedian? Anything real? You know a

842
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: lot of people one of the reasons I do I'm

843
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: known for pranks and doing hidden camera stuff is because, um,

844
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: I've told this story a lot, but my my parents

845
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: were really in the comedy and on any given night,

846
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: that Tonight show was on in the other room, and

847
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: I would hear them both like laughing hysterically. My dad

848
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: would bring home an album, comedy album, and they played

849
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: and they laugh hysterically. I was maybe four or five

850
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: years old, and when I heard the laughter, that was

851
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: kind of like a magnetic drive. Go into the living

852
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: room and I'd see what was on the TV and

853
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: there'd be a stand up comic, you know, talking about

854
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: his mother in law and that, and I didn't and

855
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: my parents were laughing, and I don't know what the

856
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: mother in law was. I don't even know what that

857
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: term is at four years old, but I wanted to

858
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: be part of the laughter. And my first recollection of

859
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: being part of the left there was on a Sunday

860
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: night there was a show called Candid Camera, which was

861
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: the first hidden camera show, and I was sitting there

862
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: watching it with my parents and Alan Fund, who was

863
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: the host, was this nice old man who came out

864
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: and explained to us that, um, what he's to do

865
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: is he's gonna pretend that he's the boss of an office.

866
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: He's gonna hire these women to be receptionists. Uh, they

867
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: don't know that they're on a TV show. And the

868
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: one instruction to his one instruction to them is going

869
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: to be you must answer every single phone call, don't

870
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: miss one phone call, and take a message. And at

871
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: the same time, he showed us that he tied a

872
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: rope to the leg of the desk, which was drilled

873
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: through a hole in the wall. And what was gonna

874
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: happen was every time he'd leave the office, but when

875
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: the phone would ring and she went to reach for

876
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: the phone, somebody would pull the rope and the whole

877
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: desk in the phone would just slide across the room

878
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: and she missed when each places. So you just giggled

879
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: without even seeing it. And I remember my parents laughed

880
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: and I turned to them, I understand, I understand what

881
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: he was doing. And this was like the biggest, the

882
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: first connection. It was like a guttural laugh. We were

883
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: all in on it. He pulled us in on it.

884
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't a joke. It was like so relatable, like,

885
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: oh my god, if I was in an office and

886
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: the desk flew away. I'd be so fucking scared. It

887
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: was like being at a surprise party when they go

888
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: she's coming up the driveway, she's coming up the driver,

889
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: just this guttural feeling. And then the first time when

890
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: the first woman sat down and that phone rang and

891
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: she went to reach board and it went across the room,

892
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: I had such a visceral, guttural laugh, like almost a scream.

893
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: All three of us, my parents and me, just laughed.

894
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: And from that day on, I continually tried to recapture

895
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: that feeling. And the feeling is, you know, I don't

896
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: like jokes. I don't like if you say, here's something

897
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: really funny. First of all, I should be the judge

898
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: of whether I think it's funny. You shouldn't tell me

899
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: it's really funny. But number two, when you tell me

900
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: two guys walked into a bar, uh, they didn't, you know,

901
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: So I can't. I can't really imagine you're just making

902
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: up a story. But when you when you show me

903
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: somebody that I can relate to that is in an uncomfortable,

904
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: awkward situation, saying, by the way, exactly so I'm so literal.

905
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: You're a very little. I'm the same exactly. I don't

906
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: love sci fi because it wouldn't really happen like in

907
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: my life, Like I don't see Martians or people in

908
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: a spaceship. I like, that's so funny. I like the

909
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: same thing. I like things that are real, true, things

910
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 1: that could actually happen. And so people say it's mean

911
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: to do, but I don't think it's mean. I think

912
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: we're all. You know, we all, whether you're as neurotic

913
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: as I am. You know, everybody talks about that dream

914
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: where you show up at a party and you're in

915
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: your underwear. You know, ultimately it's like, we feel we

916
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: don't belong, we feel we don't and and anytime you

917
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: can replicate that or control that feeling, and then you know,

918
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 1: pull back the curtain and go, don't don't be uncomfortable.

919
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: It's just the joke. It's us and that and then

920
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: you see the relief and everything. There's something really nice

921
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 1: and you know, and and and there's some closure to it,

922
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: and that's something very human. And that's what I relate

923
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: to the most. Well. Making people laugh is amazing, and

924
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: laughing is amazing, But the best is when it all

925
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: happens at the same time when you make someone laugh

926
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: and then you're laughing because you know it's so funny that, like,

927
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 1: that's got to be a high. Do what what has been?

928
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: What's been your rose and your thorn of this career?

929
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: The high and the low, like just like the thing

930
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: that was amazing and maybe that date in nineteen seventy

931
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: nine or something else, and when no one knows about

932
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: and the low the lows are, the lows are really

933
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: really um I love living in the moment and I

934
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: love doing it for myself, you know, In in nineteen

935
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: in in in two thousand and five, I was about

936
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: to leave the career, and I wanted to leave the

937
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: career because it's just a fucking kick in the nuts.

938
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: Every day I liked, I liked, and and I'm sincere

939
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: when I say this. I love that feeling that I

940
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: got in April, you know, in nineteen seventy seven, April

941
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: nineteen nine seventy seven, of not worrying about ratings, not

942
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: being competitive, just doing something I love that made me

943
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: feel good. It really made me feel good. And and

944
00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: the what happens is with more success comes more responsibility

945
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 1: and and and more outside um powers. That kind of

946
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 1: whether they review you, whether they cancel you, whether they

947
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: tell you, whether you have to now have a team.

948
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,959
Speaker 1: Like you said when you were doing it with Ellen,

949
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: it was good, and then maybe you've got I did

950
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: a talk show. It was one of the toughest things

951
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: I ever did, in the sense that it's what I

952
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: wanted to do. And then they told me that I

953
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: had to hire an executive producer because I didn't understand daytime.

954
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: I had done so good filling in for Regius, they

955
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: hired me, and then they I had a friend that

956
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to produce the show another person produce, and

957
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: I listened you know that as soon as well, that's

958
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: a whole different Ki, that's a that's a that's literally

959
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: being in a factory. And let me come back and

960
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: up next and back at nine. You're like in corporate

961
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: America on television, you know, and you can't be yourself. Well,

962
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: there's these you know. The authenticity of who you are,

963
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: which got you to that point is now taken over.

964
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: Everybody's got a responsibility to create your authenticity, which is

965
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: the exact opposite of authenticity. And that's why I still

966
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 1: always go back to go back to stand up because

967
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm in control. There's no editing, there's no marks to hit,

968
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: there's nothing to throw. To reality television in the right

969
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: way at the right time, produced by the right people

970
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: feels like that too. It's gotten manufactured now where they're actors,

971
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: But it used to be where you were just not

972
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: wearing makeup and you look like I do right now,

973
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: just living your life. And it really had a sense

974
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: of comedy to it because it was just being honest

975
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: and reacting. And is nothing appropriate about it or that

976
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 1: has to be it could be, but it was really

977
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: pure when it was pure. And I just talked about

978
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: that recently because people begged me to go back to

979
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: this reality show, and I said, if I could get

980
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: it back to what it was in April nine, when

981
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: you felt where it was just purity, I would do what.

982
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: I U still laugh so hard and love just commenting,

983
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: but it being something about hair, makeup, lashes, editing and

984
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: getting pressed is not my cup of tea. So I

985
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: get what you're saying, is that, Well, that's the ironic part.

986
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: It's not reality or else, not really pity show. And

987
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: when I was gonna leave and when I was discouraged

988
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: and I was okay, financially, you know, in in two

989
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: thousand and five, you know, as we talked about I

990
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: had real estate and things like that. I just said,

991
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just gonna, I'm gonna I'm gonna do

992
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: whatever I do behind the scenes, and I will drop

993
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: into the comedy store at the last factory to three

994
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: times a week and that will suffice I don't want

995
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: to work anything. And then I got a call from Ropenberg,

996
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: from Michael Rodenberg, who is my manager and my best friend,

997
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: to say, you know, NBC wants you to do a

998
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: game show. They say that you're perfect for it, and

999
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: I went, are you fucking nuts? And I hung up

1000
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: the phone because at that time, if you take your

1001
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: self back to see this is the one time where

1002
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: I didn't use my philosophy and it's kind of a

1003
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: good story. He uh, nobody, nobody in comedy had ever

1004
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: done game show, not since Drugtcha Marx did you bet

1005
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: your life? And when your currency is? And now it's

1006
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: all we think about. But that was like a new concept.

1007
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: That's interesting. You were host You were hosting, right, And

1008
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: also because you know at that time, you know, if

1009
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: you're a movie star, you didn't do TV if you

1010
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: were a TV star, you didn't do commercials. Really, when

1011
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: I started reality TV, they would never have an actress

1012
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: on real it's just re reality. Your person, you're not

1013
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 1: you don't have paparazzi phone, you're nobody. You're just being covered.

1014
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: So it's funny. And then all of a sudden, now

1015
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: it's all actresses. So you're talking about a different time too.

1016
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: I didn't remember that. Yeah, it used to be host

1017
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: host host. Yeah. So so so I said, no way,

1018
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: and I said, listen, my career is in the toilet

1019
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: right now. I went from playing like Arenas and you know,

1020
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: fifteen thousand people and ten thousand people. At two thousand

1021
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 1: and five, I was there's an ark to every business.

1022
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: I was playing clubs that were half full. I had

1023
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: done a series Saying Elsewhere, which launched Denzel Washington and myself,

1024
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: and now I was in m auditioning for five lines

1025
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: and under. So I just, you know, I don't need this.

1026
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: This is a lot of pressure and a lot of

1027
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: you know, angst for nothing. So I'm not enjoying it.

1028
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: I'll just go to the club a couple of times

1029
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: a week and I'll continue in my real estate. So, um,

1030
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: and Michael called and I thought it was a joke.

1031
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: He calls back. He goes, listen, they've never done something

1032
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,919
Speaker 1: like this before. Apparently there's a show that is huge

1033
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 1: all over the world. NBC says, you're perfect for this,

1034
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: and they're gonna air it. They've never done this. They're

1035
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: gonna give you five primetime hours in one week, Monday

1036
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: to Friday. And I said, Michael, even more of a

1037
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: I thought being a game show host is gonna put

1038
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: the nail in the coffin of my career. But five

1039
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: nights a week now, you put in five fucking nails. No,

1040
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 1: he calls me back one more time. He goes, they

1041
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 1: say that you're the only person that can do this.

1042
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: Will you at least meet so so so he he um.

1043
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, this sounds horrible. I'm at

1044
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 1: Jerry's Delhi in the valley, uh, having some soup. If

1045
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: the guy wants to join me, I'm not going to

1046
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: any meetings. But if the guy wants to join me

1047
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: from soup all here, I don't want to get in

1048
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: my car. I don't want to even spend gas money

1049
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: on going for this. He goes, He'll be there in

1050
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: a half an hour, this guy Rob Smith, who was

1051
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: from a company called End Them All shows up. He

1052
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: shows up at the at the restaurant. He moves my

1053
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: super side. He goes, look at this, just look at this.

1054
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: And he had made a card. He didn't even go

1055
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: to Kinko's. He made it. He didn't have rulers or anything.

1056
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,919
Speaker 1: He cut out twenty six little squares by hand. He which,

1057
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: I have all these papers and all this ship on

1058
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: my wall in my office, and it's it's it's really

1059
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: you go, this is the beginning of what dealer? No

1060
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: deal kind But anyway, he goes, pick one of the

1061
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: don't look at it, but pick one of these squares

1062
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: you're looking for the one with a million dollars. And

1063
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: we sit at the table and he goes, you think

1064
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: you got the million dollars? I don't know. He goes, well,

1065
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: open open another, turn over another five of these and

1066
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: he shows me the game without any and it's nothing.

1067
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 1: It's nothing. There's no fucking game. I said, five hours,

1068
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: there's just people opening cases, like where is the game?

1069
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: And he goes, well, that's the game. So I go

1070
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: home and I also I suffered from depression and anxiety

1071
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 1: and I went home and my wife said, what did

1072
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: you What did you think of it? I said, I think,

1073
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: and I swear to you, I think I'm unpunked. I

1074
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: think somebody just showed me a it's not a game

1075
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: and Michael's in on it, and I think this is

1076
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: like it's it's the sign feld of game shows, which

1077
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: is not really a great model. Nothing happens about nothing, right.

1078
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: So so then she goes, you know what, you're really depressed.

1079
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 1: Maybe it's not pun you really just need to distract yourself.

1080
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: Say yes, and I go, do you think? So this

1081
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: is the first time I didn't react with it. Yes,

1082
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: the very first time in my life on anything. She said,

1083
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: do it. My wife's a lot smarter than I am.

1084
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: So I called back and I said, I'll do it.

1085
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: And this is like on a Friday, and the guy said,

1086
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: oh my god, you are so perfect for this. We

1087
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: couldn't have thought of anybody better than you. You you

1088
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: We are so excited. And I said, when does the

1089
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: tape and they said Monday. I go to Friday. They

1090
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: go Monday. I go, don't you have to build a set?

1091
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: They go, it's built. I go, well, you said, there's

1092
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: twenty six models. Don't you have to hire people two

1093
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: months they're all there. So I realized how far down

1094
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: the list was. I how many fucking people had said no,

1095
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: That's why they couldn't do about me. I was the

1096
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: last one on the line. I was the last anyway,

1097
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: And then I got really scared. And then I called

1098
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: him back on the Friday night, calling was decent money?

1099
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: It was, It was okay, but it wasn't. That deal

1100
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: wasn't made for money. That deal was really get my

1101
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: wife to get me out of the house. But but

1102
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: so my So I called them back and I said, uh,

1103
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:43,919
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't know what I'm doing here,

1104
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: but can I have a budget for a couple of

1105
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: comedy writers? So at least this is like Friday, I'm Monday,

1106
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on NBC. I got nothing, and from

1107
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: what he showed me at Jerry's Deli, there is not

1108
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: I can't just spend an hour going open the case

1109
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 1: deal or no, open the case deal or no, that's

1110
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: not a show. I'm embarrassed with else that I've taken

1111
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: this job and now you're giving me nothing. So they said, okay,

1112
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: hired comedy writers. So they gave me some writers and

1113
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,720
Speaker 1: I sat all weekend and we wrote some really funny,

1114
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: good stuff. I said, if nothing else, this show is

1115
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: a piece of ship. But at least I'm gonna be

1116
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: on network television. Maybe I've decided to leave this career,

1117
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: but maybe I'll invigorate. Maybe I'll be able to fill

1118
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: club or or something. And then what happened was and

1119
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: all this comedy. Monday morning, I show up at the

1120
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: show and and um, I did five hundred episodes, but

1121
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: I remember this like it is now. Clearly. They go,

1122
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, welcome, Howie Mandel and I walk out

1123
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 1: in the audience is roaring, and it's in three sixty degrees.

1124
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: There's twelve cameras, and I introduced the very first contestant.

1125
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: Her name is Karen Van and I say, Karen, tell

1126
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: me about yourself. And Karen is this nice young lady

1127
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: who says, I have three boys. And she points to

1128
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,439
Speaker 1: these young men and these kids in the audience. They're

1129
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: really there, and I'm looking at them. She goes, I've

1130
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 1: never owned a home, we have no health in arrants.

1131
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: I lived someplace in the Midwest. She was in New

1132
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: York or l A. So like you know, the cost

1133
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: of living is nothing, you know, and I've never had anything,

1134
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: and I just want to put a roof over their head,

1135
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: or at least by health insurance. And and uh, I said, okay.

1136
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: And it kind of hit me because I've never been

1137
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: involved in anything. Everything I've done is pretend, whether it's

1138
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: a comedy act, whether it was with the script. And

1139
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: I saw a real person and I'm standing not like here,

1140
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: not like I'm zoom, and I'm talking to a real person.

1141
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: And and what hit me is, you know, first and foremost,

1142
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: I'm a human, you know. And I'm a father, and

1143
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: I'm a husband, and uh, you know, I am empathetic,

1144
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: you know. And and what happened was I was looking

1145
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: at her and she had I don't know if you've

1146
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: been on the set of television set where somebody who

1147
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: has no experience in television, it has never been anywhere.

1148
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: She's never been to Hollywood. I think it was the

1149
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: first time on a plane and the lights around this

1150
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: thre hundred people, I could see that there's a glaze,

1151
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: you know, she's not really focusing. She's just amazed that

1152
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: she's in this amazing situation and this amazing opportunity. I

1153
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: did a couple of jokes, and I could see that

1154
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: she's like just having a good time and doing the jokes,

1155
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,959
Speaker 1: but it's it's distracting. And she opens the first couple

1156
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: of cases and I say to her, it's the first

1157
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: time I've taken a call from the banker who offers

1158
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: her ten thousand dollars. And I say, uh, Karen, the

1159
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: banker offers you ten thousand dollars. And before I can

1160
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: say deal or no deal, she goes no deal. And

1161
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, you know, I wanted to say to her,

1162
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: you know, ten thousand dollars cash right now. I know

1163
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: for a fact where you live. Number one, you can

1164
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: get health insurance. Number two, you could probably get it

1165
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: down at this time. You know, we're talking about two

1166
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: thousand and five. You could probably put a down payment

1167
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: on a house, and you can you can put a roof.

1168
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the children right here, and you're not focusing.

1169
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: And I started to think, you know what, maybe it's me,

1170
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: maybe because I'm being so distracting, and that I wanted

1171
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: to focus, and I changed my cadence, which ended up

1172
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: being made fun of on SNL. But I talked to

1173
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: her like I would talk to the five year old,

1174
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: and on the next offer, I would go, Karen, the

1175
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: offer is sixty dollars. You were so invested and so

1176
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: present to bring back your word, right. But the point

1177
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: about the point was I just the whole, my whole being.

1178
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: I forgot about every joke I ever did, my whole,

1179
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: my well, not even the money that that. I wanted you,

1180
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: the contestant, to leave in a better position than you

1181
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: came in. And I wanted and I if you didn't,

1182
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: I don't want it to be on my you know,

1183
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: when people left and it didn't do good. I really

1184
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: left that set every day feeling horrible if they if

1185
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: they didn't do well. And I just wanted you to

1186
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: do better, and I wanted you to make decisions. And

1187
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: you know that million dollars. Oh but if she, if

1188
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: she had that, the next one was a million dollars,

1189
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: you would have freaked out too, though I'm sure that happened. Yeah,

1190
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 1: But I'm not a gambler, you know, even in Vegas gambler.

1191
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if you should take that if you

1192
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: need it right now, there's three children sitting there, and

1193
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: you could take sixty dollars right now. I would take

1194
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,479
Speaker 1: sixty because they used to get mad at me because

1195
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:18,479
Speaker 1: I go, listen, sixty dollars is you're right right now.

1196
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: But if you don't, if you do not take the

1197
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: sixty dollars that goes away, you're going for a chance.

1198
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: Hear me the word chance at one million dollars. So

1199
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: do you want the guaranteed six? You are? You in

1200
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,439
Speaker 1: a position? Wow, you were good at this. That's why

1201
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: you were good at this. Because I'm feeling it now. Well, so,

1202
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: so here's what happened. So I take those five shows.

1203
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: I have never been more depressed in my life. I

1204
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: went home and I said to my wife that this

1205
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: is not only depressing, it's humiliating. This is the first

1206
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,959
Speaker 1: time I was on five hours of television. I told

1207
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: no jokes. I didn't I didn't play a character, I

1208
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: didn't have any lines. I just was like, I am

1209
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: at home with my with my kids. This is gonna

1210
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 1: be so fucking embarrassing. By a ticket right now, let's

1211
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: go to the Caribbean. We flew to Tortola. I wanted

1212
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: a place that didn't have TVs, that didn't have anything.

1213
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: I didn't want to watch my I didn't want to

1214
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: watch my career. Just you know, I was so humiliated.

1215
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,919
Speaker 1: On that Tuesday morning, I get a call from Rob

1216
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 1: Smith's from endem All say, you're not gonna believe it,

1217
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: like twenty million people watched last night. No. Yeah, so

1218
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: so he went, he went that's then the next day

1219
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: he calls me. It's twenty two million. The next day

1220
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 1: he calls me and he goes, this is a phenomenal.

1221
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: Deal or No Deal is probably one of the like

1222
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: that show quiz Show in the seventies, right, well, push

1223
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: show is the reason that that you know, they didn't

1224
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: do talk shows for a long time because that's the

1225
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: they cheated. Yes, it was the big prime time Anyway,

1226
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 1: what happened was on Friday, I flew back, I landed

1227
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: in Miami and within three seconds, the first person that

1228
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: caught the look just looked at me went deal or

1229
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: no Deal. That was the biggest success of my career

1230
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: and off the on, the biggest risk and the one

1231
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 1: thing I said no to. And not only that, I mean,

1232
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm twoting my own horn here, but it's

1233
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: not my horn because they thought of hiring me. But

1234
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: but the thing is that within weeks, you know, Fox

1235
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: called Jeff Foxworthy and said, are you smarter than a

1236
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 1: fifth grade? Um family feud called Louis Anderson now became

1237
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: Steve Harvey, and now there isn't a game show alive

1238
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: that isn't headed by uh comedian. I was. I was

1239
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: the first. I get that. I was the first one

1240
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: to really make celebrity alcohol connection and a public way

1241
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: people and no one knows that, no one cares. But

1242
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: I didn't know that about you. I wouldn't know that.

1243
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: I know you, Howie Mandel, I know you're hilarious. I

1244
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't know that, So thank you for telling me. Because

1245
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 1: I like people. People should be reminded and you should

1246
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: get the street credit for it, or Rob Smithson, Well,

1247
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 1: I don't need any credit for it, but it's just

1248
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: what happened. But it's the one thing. And then based

1249
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: on that success, I ended up the mark it can Our,

1250
01:02:55,480 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: our mutual friend and agent at the time, um Uh

1251
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: negotiated a production deal, so I became a production company.

1252
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: I don't know that other people know this, but I

1253
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: love I actually love behind the scenes more than in

1254
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: front of it. And I ended up producing a bunch

1255
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: of shows. And then I was at Universal for seven

1256
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 1: years and then I left Universal and him off on

1257
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: my own and we bought I have my own studio

1258
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 1: and we produce and develop everything from apps to games

1259
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 1: to a lot of digital and television shows we we

1260
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: put on the air and formats. So you know, that

1261
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: started my business in the show business. And it's the

1262
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: one thing that was the most embarrassing thing that I

1263
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 1: said no to, but that kind of enforced there's no

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Speaker 1: more knows I don't do no anymore, right right? Okay? Well,

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Speaker 1: I love that there's only two more questions because I

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Speaker 1: didn't want to keep you too long. Is that I

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Speaker 1: have three more answers? Good? I bet you to wait.

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Speaker 1: So work ethic. We talked about that a lot. We're

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01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: in the lands of gimmicks and filters and Instagram and

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01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 1: and and and fools gold, and you know, you work

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01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: so hard that you're reinfit's not even really a question.

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01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 1: It's kind of a commentary and you'll have something, hopefully

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01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: to say about it, but just that it's really about

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01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: old school hard work. It sounds like every single thing

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Speaker 1: that you do, you do to the fullest. You execute,

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01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 1: you deliver to the best your ability and and your

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Speaker 1: present in whatever you're doing. That sounds like, well, that

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01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: could be right now. And that's what the key to

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Speaker 1: success is that for young people listening, it really is

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Speaker 1: just about going for it, executing and you know, figuring

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01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 1: it out all all roads eventually to Rome. But you know,

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Speaker 1: you use that, you're using the term work. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like I work. I feel like I

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01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: do a lot of stuff. I feel like, but you

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01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: worked at carpets, the carpets, you're working, you know what?

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01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: Not Really I enjoyed. I have so many stories, you know,

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01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: it was really funny. I got a job at the

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Speaker 1: warehouse and the carpet warehouse. When I met the guy

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Speaker 1: who sold the carpet to the warehouse, I said, how

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01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: can I do it? And I was going door to

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Speaker 1: door selling, and I don't think I was doing it.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I'm incredibly color blind. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I'm not a good but I'm a good salesman. But

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Speaker 1: sales is I just had an audience of one or

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01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 1: a family. So it's not work. You're saying, it's something

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Speaker 1: you're just executing something that you love or that you're

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Speaker 1: scared to do, or that it's taking risks and and

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Speaker 1: and I mean there's some maybe the risks, I don't

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01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,919
Speaker 1: think that. You know, afterwards, I think there was a risk,

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01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: But in the moment, there's no risk. I'm just doing

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01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 1: and I do these things and and they end up

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01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 1: being incredibly productive, and there is some and even at

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01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 1: the things that I work really hard at and you're

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01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 1: talking about, or the things that I do a lot,

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01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 1: and then they don't create something or there's nothing coming

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01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: out of it. Then what I've created is knowledge. I've

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01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 1: created a knowledge of a path to not go down. Oh.

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01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: Of course failures are successes because you learn the skill

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01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: set to resolve those issues, the practical solutions and work

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01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: through it and you don't make the mistake again. You know,

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01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 1: people may think this is work. You know what we're on.

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01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: We're on a podcast right now, you're on a podcast.

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01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like I'm working. It feels like I

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01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 1: can't believe this is my job, you know, talking to

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01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: somebody about things that I'm interested in. But I am.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is time that I can't do something else. No,

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01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: thank you for saying that's my I'm so grateful too,

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01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 1: And I know you didn't say it for that reason,

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01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: but like I can't believe that people give me their

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01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 1: time to have these conversations. But I love it so

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01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: much because I feel like most people don't know these

1322
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 1: granular aspects about you and the threads you know of

1323
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: of of who you are. You know, and if you

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01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 1: read Steve, if you read Steve Jobs book, you know

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01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 1: he was in that right. So he was in the

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01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 1: garage doing things that you know, he wanted to do

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Speaker 1: that he was passionate about that he was It wasn't

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01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: about the billion dollar changing to what it did change

1329
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: the one world. It did make a billion dollars, but

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Speaker 1: that's not why he was doing it. Everybody who's really

1331
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: six has fawn here. Well. I mean, I bring up

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01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: Cheryl Sanmdberg, who really was an you know, academic, like

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01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: she just she just loved what she was doing. That's

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01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: really the key to success. It's it's so it's been

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01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 1: so tried and true. People don't really believe it's so

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01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 1: many people are motivated by money and all the cars

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Speaker 1: and all the flash and cash on social media, and

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01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 1: that's not the key to success, Like it really is

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01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: loving what you're doing, passion. The drive is because of

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01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 1: the passion and the truth and the purity of what

1341
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: you talked about earlier. Of all the people I know

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01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 1: in my life, UM, the most miserable people are probably rich,

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01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 1: you know. And I know a lot of really I know,

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01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 1: really content people that don't have what maybe most people

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01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 1: would think is a lot of money, but they are

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01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: rich in the sense that they are excited about getting

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01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 1: up today and doing whatever it is that they've chosen

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01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,919
Speaker 1: to do in their life or in that week. And

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01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 1: that's what I say. Just find a passion and that

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01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: is success. That's an amazing Okay's last thing is you've

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01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 1: been married for a long time, and um, no relationship

1352
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 1: is perfect, but I call it successful relationships or two

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01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: successful people. Uh, you know, maintain a partnership for such

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01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 1: a long period of time. And what have been tenants

1355
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 1: that that? What are things that you rely on or

1356
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 1: that you have relied on that have always been tried

1357
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 1: and true, connecting in every day, giving each other space,

1358
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 1: really accepting who you are, what you know, if if

1359
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 1: it's important to them, it's important to me. No, everybody

1360
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: has different but I'm giving you what other people have said. Well,

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01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 1: I think that the one thing that works in any

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01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: relationship and and and that goes for your spouse, your children,

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01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: that your coworkers, um everybody. The one main thing is respect,

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01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, just respect. Just you know, I believe that

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01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 1: that's it, that that you can't be. I respect humanity,

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01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 1: I respect everybody. I respect you know, you have to

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01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 1: look somebody in the eye and feel that everybody and

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01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 1: every person about who they are are worthy of respect.

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01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: And I don't care. I respect when my child about

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01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 1: my grandchildren now are seven years old. I have as

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01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 1: much respect for my seven year old granddaughter as I

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01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 1: do for my wife. Beautiful. No one has said that answer,

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01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: by the way, So like that's why I said a

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01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 1: bunch just because it's been different from everyone. But that

1375
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 1: is so simple, that's amazing. No one has said that answer,

1376
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 1: which is so true, just such a basic principle to

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01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 1: live by. But it really could guide your entire life.

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01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 1: Not that I there are people that I don't respect,

1379
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 1: but just to say that in your relationships sometimes you're snippy,

1380
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 1: sometimes you don't do what the other person wants, and

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01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: just your moody respect really goes a long way overall.

1382
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: It's not I like that a lot, does it? Does?

1383
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 1: You have to give people? I mean, first of all,

1384
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: we're all original. We're all this one great, you know, crystal.

1385
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if you collect crystals, but

1386
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 1: every good. No, two crystals are exactly like. No, two

1387
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 1: humans are exactly alike. Nobody's the same age, nobody looks

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01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 1: the same. You gotta respect it. You don't look at

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01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 1: a two crystals and go, this one's well. You can't

1390
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 1: say this one's better than the other. But you have

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01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 1: as much respect for these two little rocks. That's human

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01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: that's humanity. It's weird. You just mentioned that I got

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01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 1: the first crystal I've ever gotten in my entire life yesterday,

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Speaker 1: my assistant standing. Yeah, thank you for respecting it. I

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01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 1: respect the crystal. I bought a crystal. I just wanted

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01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,640
Speaker 1: a crystal in my house. I felt like it just

1397
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: should be in the center of my house. Is so

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01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 1: weird you just brought up yesterday at camp um Howie.

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01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 1: I respect you so much. I am so grateful that

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01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 1: you took this time to talk to me. What an

1401
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 1: amazing conversation, and it like I will be thinking about

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01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,719
Speaker 1: it for days to come. I appreciate it so much.

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01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 1: All right, well, I appreciate you continued success in health.

1404
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 1: All the best to you you too, and loved your family.

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01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 1: Howie Mandel is electric, smart, interesting, kind, respectful, funny, open, honest,

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01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 1: and it was really interesting station where Um. You know,

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01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 1: in the beginning, I think people may not know what

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01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 1: to expect. They probably think it's just going to be

1409
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 1: a normal interview and they're gonna just you know, tell

1410
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: me sort of the sound bites of their life story,

1411
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 1: and we end up getting into a really unique conversation

1412
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 1: and a trajectory that none of us knew where it

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01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 1: would go. And I just love that, you know, finding

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01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 1: commonalities between myself and Howie Mandel is something I would

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01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 1: never have thought of, um, and yet there were so

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01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 1: many and it was really really interesting. And I continue

1417
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 1: to be grateful for the time that people give me

1418
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 1: the wisdom, the sort of you know, intimate secrets of

1419
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 1: their lives just to help you. And you can hear

1420
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 1: as we talk them wanting to give you take away

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01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:50,759
Speaker 1: for your career and your path. So uh grateful as ever,

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01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 1: and thanks to you for everything, and remember to rate,

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01:11:55,520 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 1: review and subscribe. Thank you two