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This is 25 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, 26 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, a 27 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: little thing we'd like to call the after party. This 28 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: is the show after the show, the party after the party, 29 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: the bridge to get you from one full episode of 30 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. 31 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: On this episode, we are talking about Marilyn Monroe, the 32 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: sources that we use for our Marilyn Monroe episode, which 33 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: helped us on cover a wild story involving none other 34 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: than Frank Sinatra and Joe d That's Joe DiMaggio. That 35 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 1: story did not make the final cut of our full episode. 36 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: And of course we're also talking to you via voicemail 37 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: and text, and as always, we have a whole lot 38 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: of rosa. All right, disc goes, let's get into it. 39 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: All right. 40 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm a Prince fan, but I never considered myself like 41 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: a super fan or anything like that. I didn't have 42 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: posters of prints up on my wall growing up like 43 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: I did of Madonna my dorm room. But that's another story. 44 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: You know. I wasn't particularly interested in Purple Rain. I mean, 45 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: I saw it, I don't even know that I had 46 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: an opinion about it really when I was a kid, 47 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't own all of Prince's records. You know, 48 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: even as a young kid who was in a punk 49 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: rock and hardcore I think it was kind of subversive, 50 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: at least in my little niche scene to be into Prince. 51 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: Not that I didn't like Prince. I did like I 52 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: liked him, but I wasn't. My point is, I wasn't obsessed. 53 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: I didn't own all of his records. I didn't get 54 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: particularly excited when a Prince video came on MTV because 55 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: back then Prince was everywhere. It wasn't a rare occasion 56 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: to see a Prince video or to hear a Prince 57 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: song on the radio. He was Prince. He was like water, 58 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: essential and everywhere necessary. Sure, but he kind of took 59 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: him for granted then. When he died on April twenty first, 60 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. I felt fucked up over his death. Rock 61 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: just too strong of a word. I wrote down rocked 62 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: in the notes I was taken to sketch out what 63 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: I was going to say here. I wasn't rocked by it, 64 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: but it was a strange feeling. I was definitely affected 65 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: by it because, like I said, it was strange because 66 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: I wasn't a mega Prince fan or anything like that. 67 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: I remember remember exactly where I was, which is also 68 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: saying something you know you tend to say, like yo, 69 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: people remember where they were when John F. Kennedy died, 70 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: or people remember where they were when nine to eleven happened. 71 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: I remember where I was when Prince died, which is 72 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: kind of bizarre. 73 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: I was. 74 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: I was on a treadmill at a downtown Boston Equinox 75 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: and they had CNN up there on the screen and 76 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: I was watching it. And I can't remember if it 77 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: was like came over on the crawl or a talking 78 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: head came on and told us about it. But pretty 79 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: soon after that news, I remember texting with my wife 80 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: and my mother in law about it. We were all sad, 81 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: and then, still on the treadmill, I put prints on 82 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: Spotify and I actually cried. Okay, I'm not saying that 83 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: to make myself seem more more relatable or anything like that. 84 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: I'm not a crier. Sure, I'm probably more sentimental than 85 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: I like to admit, but I'm not the type of 86 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: guy who breaks down easily sappy commercials on television, Father's 87 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: Day cards, rom coms, on planes with weird air pressure. 88 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: I hold together pretty good. So why the hell was 89 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: I crying because some pop star I didn't know kicked off? 90 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: And to be honest, I was barely crying. I mean, 91 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: I probably shed a tear to when doves cry on 92 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: Spotify or something when I was sweating it up on 93 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: the treadmill. But still it was enough to notice, which 94 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: is my point. When Marilyn Monroe died on August fourth, 95 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty two, everybody noticed, and no doubt many cried. 96 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: Those who knew her, her exes Joe DiMaggio and Arthur 97 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: Miller for sure, her friends Peter Lawford, Dean Martin, perhaps 98 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: even the president at the time, John F. Kennedy and 99 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: his new Jersey Frank Sinatra. But make no mistake, America 100 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: cried as well when Marilyn Monroe died Marilyn Monroe's death 101 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: inspired not only the expected reaction from fans, everything from 102 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: earnest tributes to the Macobs celebrity death gockers, but it 103 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: inspired something else too, some strange mix of endless grief 104 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: and tribute. Marilyn Monroe's death inspired everyone from the grieving 105 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: public at large to Andy Warhol to Truman Capote, to 106 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: Elton John, to Madonna to Glenn Danzig, the countless culture 107 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: vultures and students, documentarians, and global celebrants of pop culture history. 108 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe is, without a doubt, bigger after death than 109 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: she was during life. And I think it's because the 110 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: impact she made when she was alive was so huge, 111 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: so significant, that we refuse to let her die. From 112 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: Andy Warhol's portrait to Arthur Miller's essays, to Joe DiMaggio's 113 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: public tears, to Madonna's Material Girl, to Glenn Danzig's demanding 114 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: question to Elton John's tribute to modern day biopicks on Netflix, 115 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe is here to stay. We refuse to let 116 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: her go, and again, it's because of what she did 117 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: when she was here, the films she made, the image 118 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: that she singed into our consciousness the path she blazed, 119 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: and make no bones about it. She was a feminist 120 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:08,239 Speaker 1: trailblazer before the definition even existed. Marilyn Monroe's life, everything 121 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: about it, especially her death, as extraordinary as it was, 122 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: we see a part of us in it, or we 123 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: project some part of us onto it, onto her. I 124 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: can't put my finger on it other than to say 125 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: that we refuse to let her die. And I get 126 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: into what made Marilyn so extraordinary in this week's episode 127 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: that we did on Marilyn Monroe, and in part two 128 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: that's coming next week. I get fully into her death 129 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: and the conspiracy theories surrounding her cause of death. But 130 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: back to Prince. Prince's death affected me not because of Prince, 131 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: but because I was still grieving the death of my 132 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: sister from a few years earlier. I was projecting my 133 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: loss onto the loss of a figure that I didn't know, 134 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: because suddenly that was an option, an emotional convenience that 135 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: my subconscious took advantage of. Grief will out itself one 136 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: way or another. There's no burying it. But I wonder, 137 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: as a culture, what did we project onto Marilyn Monroe 138 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: after she died, and what do we collectively continue to 139 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: project onto her? And why do we refuse to let 140 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: her die? They say that you die twice, once when 141 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: you actually kick off, when your death happens, and again 142 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: when the last person on earth who remembers you dies, 143 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: and then your memory is completely gone, and by that measure, 144 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe will live forever immortal. Which celebrity passings though? 145 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: Which ones hit you the hardest? And why can you 146 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: put your finger on it? I mean, you don't have 147 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: to tell me why, you don't have to overshare, but 148 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm interested. I'm interested to know if you can connect 149 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: the psychological thoughts between why, I don't know, Tom Petty 150 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: or David Bowie or somebody you've never met in your life, 151 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: why their death has affected you so much? Who was it? 152 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: Was it Marilyn Monroe? Was it Prince? Was it Tom Petty? 153 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: Was it? 154 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: Elvis Presley, Steve Albini, Kurkobe and Roger Corbyn? Let me 155 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: know six one seven nine oh six six sixty three 156 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: eight to let me know via voicemail and text. I 157 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: want to know which celebrity deaths affected you the most, 158 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: and if you feel like sharing, go ahead and tell 159 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: me why. I'll be back in a flash. All right, Sources, sources, sources. 160 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: You guys want to know about the sources because you're 161 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: you're massive readers, you're massive consumers of culture, just as 162 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: I am, and you may perhaps want to go a 163 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: little deeper than we did on your own time in 164 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: learning about these episodes subjects. So here we go. Let's 165 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: talk for a minute about the sources that we use 166 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: for this week's episode on Marilyn Monroe. Now, there are 167 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: a lot, as you can imagine, a ton a ton 168 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: of books out there on Marilyn Monroe, but I read 169 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: two of them for my research. Two biographies that is. 170 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: The first is Marilyn Monroe, a biography by Donald Spotto, 171 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: which is just fucking great, just an incredible biography. It 172 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: was somewhat controversial, and it was one of these things 173 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: where I can't remember when the book was published, but 174 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: there was enough time between when it was published and 175 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: when I read it that when I was figuring out 176 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: if I was going to use this book as a 177 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: bit of research, I went and I looked at what 178 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: some of the more quote unquote controversial elements of the 179 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: book were, and to be honest, I think they had 180 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: to do with her death. I can't remember right off 181 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: the top of my head. And then I did a 182 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: little research on my own to see, you know, you know, 183 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: were they actually controversial? Were they were these really sort 184 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: of like you know, misinformation or whatever your zeitgeisty term 185 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: is for inconvenient truths. I went and I looked it up, 186 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: and a lot of it was just bullshit. And it 187 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: was clear to me that what he was, what the 188 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: author was being called out for was disingenuous and just 189 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 1: kind of click baity, and I figured this was a 190 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: book that many people had gotten behind and it was 191 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: one that was worth reading, and boy, oh boy, it was. 192 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: I right. The second was Marilyn Monroe, a biography by 193 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: Barbara Lemming. That was another one that helped, Like, you know, 194 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: I like we've mentioned this before. I like getting a 195 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: couple of different perspectives on the subject, not just reading 196 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: one biography. Then we're just kind of we're just boxing 197 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: ourselves into someone else's point of view. And when you 198 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: want to paint a full picture and you want to 199 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: create your old editorial point of view, you need multiple sources. 200 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: So those are the two on Maryland. The two sort 201 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: of conventional biographies that I read the other. The other 202 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: thing that the other book that I read was more 203 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: of a quote unquote conversational portrait to chapter in Truman 204 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: Capote's book Music for Chameleons that's taken from a conversation 205 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: that Truman had with his friend Marilyn Monroe, which was 206 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: super helpful to help us build the character of Marilyn. 207 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: To get Truman Capoti a friend of hers point of view. 208 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: He nails Marilyn's voice, he nails her phrasing, and like 209 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: unlike any other writer that I've ever come across, there 210 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: any other sort of you know, semi fictional depiction of 211 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe. And I just love, as you guys know, 212 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: I love Truman Capote's writing. So Music for Chameleons, it's 213 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: a great book. Go find that it's gold. And it 214 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: was certainly gold when we were trying to get the 215 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: right perspective on Marilyn Monroe in order to cover her 216 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: correctly in these full episodes that we're releasing. Okay, but 217 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: back to the biographies, that really helped illustrate what a 218 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: force of nature Marilyn Monroe was usually serious she was 219 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: about her career, and that really struck me. It really 220 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: struck me because going into this subject not knowing a 221 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: lot about it, just superficially we have I would think, 222 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: well I had. Anyways, I don't want to speak for you, guys. 223 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: I had this image of Marilyn Monroe as not being 224 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: a particularly serious artist, but she was. She became a 225 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: movie star largely to escape her impoverished and violent world, 226 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: her violent upbringing. I should say that she grew up 227 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: in and yes, she was often an emotional mess. She 228 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: was often depressed, she was often fucked up on drugs. 229 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: But this was a time when a person in Marilyn 230 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: Monroe's situation, somebody who was breaking the mold, somebody who 231 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: had become such a mega star off the heels of 232 00:13:54,440 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: a really fucked up childhood without hardly any family support 233 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: or any emotional support. Marilyn Monroe did not have the 234 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: tools to deal with everything that was going on in 235 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: both her career and in her life. If she were 236 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: an artist today, it would be an entirely different story. 237 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: This was not an arrow when things like anxiety and 238 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: depression were openly discussed and managed. You had to manage 239 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: that shit on your own. And yeah, self medication was 240 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: part of it, and I completely sympathize and empathized with 241 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe. Nobody was in the position that she was in. 242 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: To judge her for her drug use, to judge her 243 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: for how she handled the men in her life, to 244 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: judge her for how she let the men in her 245 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: life handle her is entirely fucked up from the position 246 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: that we now sit in, or as men, that we 247 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: could have sat in when she was alive. Like I said, 248 00:14:54,680 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: a completely unique experience. You know, Marilyn Monroe was a smart, savvy, 249 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: incredibly savvy, not just artists, but just human and you 250 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: know that whole like you know, gentlemen preferred blondes and 251 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: that happy birthday, mister President. All that was that was 252 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: a parody of herself, a parody of the image that 253 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: she created, the image that she created to attain success, 254 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: an image that, as you know, if you've listened to 255 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: the episode Studio Heads of twentieth Century Fox thought was 256 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: going to be ruined forever when nude photos from her 257 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: from her early modeling career were leaked just as she 258 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: started to become famous in Hollywood. Now, the executives, the suits, 259 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: the studio heads, they wanted her to deny that that 260 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: was actually her in the photographs. She realized how stupid 261 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: that would be, given that there were actual pictures of 262 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: her in the photographs. The photographs were of her. That 263 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to say is you can't deny photographs. Okay, 264 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: So she didn't. She copped to it. She leaned into it. 265 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: She refused to be shamed by the thing, and she 266 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: used it to her advantage. She used it to flex 267 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: her power, and she got more powerful after this happened. 268 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: It was almost like a you know, it wasn't as 269 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: contrived as the Kim Kardashian sex tape, but it was 270 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: one of those things where it just enhanced the whole 271 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: aura and myth that was being built of Marilyn Monroe 272 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: at the time, and it made her one of the biggest, 273 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: if not the biggest icons living icons in the history 274 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: of entertainment. She became huge, a huge phenomenon. So, you know, 275 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,119 Speaker 1: I asked this question earlier this week over on Instagram, 276 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: But what do you think is Marilyn Monroe the biggest 277 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: icon in the history of entertainment? Now that sounds like 278 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: a massive question to ask, but it doesn't. It doesn't 279 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: scare me because who else are we talking about? People 280 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: are gonna say James Dean, But I don't think James 281 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: Dean even comes close. Yeah, maybe his image, maybe it's 282 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: as iconic, but that's just the image, the lasting effect 283 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 1: as an artist, I don't know. Maybe James Dean does 284 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: on actors, but it doesn't seem to be as widespread, right. 285 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: I think if you walk just to random people on 286 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: the street and you know this country or another country, 287 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: and held up a picture of Marilyn Monroe in a 288 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: picture of James Dean, I think more people would be 289 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: able to recognize who Marilyn Monroe was. But I don't know. 290 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: Elvis Presley, Michael Jackson. I don't think Brando comes close. 291 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: I don't think Liz Taylor comes close. Maybe Michael Jordan. 292 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: Maybe Michael Jordan, who's the biggest icon you can think 293 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: of in the history of entertainment, And we can throw 294 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: sports figures in here as well. Has anyone else captured 295 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: the public's imagination for such a long period of time 296 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: like Marilyn Monroe has? Does the mystery around Marilyn Monroe's 297 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: death contribute to our fascination? These are all questions that 298 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: this fascinating subject prompts for us let me know your 299 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: thoughts six one seven nine oh six six six three eight. 300 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: And speaking of Merily Monroe's death, we're gonna get into 301 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: more detail on that with part two of the episode 302 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: that is coming up next week. It'll be the next 303 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: thing that hits your feed after the archive Rewind episode 304 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: that's coming tomorrow. Okay, So six one seven nine oh 305 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: six six six three eight, that's how you get in 306 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,959 Speaker 1: touch with me, text, voicemail. Got two questions we're asking 307 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: this week. Number One, which celebrity death hit you the hardest? 308 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: Number two, who is the biggest icon in the history 309 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: of entertainment? Is it Marilyn Monroe? You can call me 310 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: six one seven nine oh six six six three eight, 311 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: leave me a voicemail, send me a text, and we 312 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: will answer those questions next week in the After Party 313 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: Bonus episode. But right now we're going to dive into 314 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: some answers from you guys on last week's questions. Let's 315 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: check out this voicemail here from the four one OHO. 316 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: This is a response to the William S Burrows episode 317 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:50,719 Speaker 1: that we released last week. 318 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 4: Hey Jake, this is ad from the four one oh 319 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 4: Colin to let you know about two run ins I 320 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 4: had with William S. Burrow's Lawrence Kansas in Thank You 321 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 4: eighty six or eighty seven. The first was at a 322 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 4: small theater when Burrows entered inexplicably with an entourage of 323 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 4: small town farm grandpa and grandma types and sat in 324 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 4: the reserve brough right in front of me. My friends 325 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 4: and I later had the chance to chat with him 326 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 4: at the after party. The next time was about two 327 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 4: weeks later, when was in line ahead of me buying cigarettes. 328 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 4: He got multiple taps of Jetan and player's navy cuts 329 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 4: and seemed to fit. They ran out of three castles 330 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 4: and thanks for the great show. I'm a long time listener. 331 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 4: Talk to you later. 332 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: By four one. Oh, I appreciate it. Thank you for 333 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: the call. I love that you went to an after 334 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: party with William S Burrows. This one from the three 335 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: one six hitting us up in regards to our serial 336 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 1: killer conversation from the last couple of weeks. 337 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 3: Oh, chass chasing from Kansas, and you were talking about s. 338 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 2: A serial killer and I'm taking Leonard co Kim. 339 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 3: He has a. 340 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 2: Beautiful, scary faced boy. A lot of the songs for 341 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: a natural foreign killers, I think. I guess it's just 342 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 2: a voice. 343 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: That Leonard Cohen as a serial killer. Never thought of 344 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: that one, but that's what happens when we do two 345 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: calls from Kansas in uh In uh In, one after party, 346 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: this one from the nine oh four. 347 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 3: Hey, Jake, I don't know if we're past this conversation 348 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 3: or not, but I know you were talking about the 349 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 3: greatest folk artists, and definitely among one of the greatest 350 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 3: in my opinion, Pete Seeger. 351 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: Pete Seeger. Pete Seeger is one of those artists who 352 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: I think had he died earlier and didn't live the long, 353 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: full life that he lived, I think he'd be he'd 354 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: be more uh well, I guess iconic, it seems to 355 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: be the word of the episode. But he lived along 356 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: full life and he obviously touched a lot of people. 357 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: I actually think there's a Pete Seeger episode there. I 358 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: think telling the story of Newport Folk, which you're about 359 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: to hear from the perspective of Bob Dylan and the 360 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: Bob Dylan episode that we have coming up, but I 361 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: think telling it from the perspective of Pete Seeger would 362 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: be very very interesting. So maybe We'll get into that 363 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: at some point, but for right now, let's get into 364 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: some texts, and this one from the nine to seven 365 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: zero regards to the serial killer conversation, You guys won't 366 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: let this one die, this question die? Which was which 367 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: artist out there do you think could which artists out 368 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: that gives you serial killer vibes? Who is it? 369 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 4: Who? 370 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: Amongst them? Which musician? And nine seven oh rights? And 371 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: has anyone looked into Burt bacharak very smooth, handsome and 372 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: a little creepy. Also collaborated with Elvis Costello, perhaps not 373 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: their only collaboration. Does collaborating with Elvis Costello make you 374 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: a serial killer? I don't think so. I don't think 375 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: Burt Bacharach was a serial killer. I think Burt Bacharach 376 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: was pretty on the level. I mentioned in last week's 377 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: after party that I thought William S Burrows was overrated 378 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: as a writer. The eight four to seven rights in overrated, overrated, 379 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: without a doubt. It's Kurt Cobain. He was a fraud 380 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: and left this earth before it was discovered. What a talentless, 381 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: whiny d bag he was? Whoa eight four seven We're 382 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: all entitled to our opinions unless they're completely fucking wrong 383 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: like yours is. I'm joking, you know not. Yeah, whatever 384 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: you can think we want about Kurt Cobain, I disagree, 385 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: Uh talentless. Come on, man, come on, six one two 386 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: rights in Hey, your content is incredible. Thanks for all 387 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: your effort. Just want you to know what's appreciated. Well, 388 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: thank you, six to one to two. And I want 389 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: you to know that we have a whole crew over 390 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: here who help out engineers, writers, not just me and 391 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: the microphone. So lots of folks at Double Elvis, and 392 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: they're gonna be like to hear that you appreciate what 393 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: they do. Six one seven nine oh six six six 394 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: three eight. Hit me up. I want to hear which 395 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: celebrity's death impacted you the most. 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A rewind 459 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: episode on Tom Petty all right, number four next week 460 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: in the Disgrace land Feed, Part two of our Marilyn 461 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: Monroe story. Number five. My number is six one, seven, 462 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: nine oh six sixty six three eight, call me on 463 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: the telephone or text me. And last, remember, no one 464 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: cares about the music that you love more than you do. 465 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: And well, that is a disgrace. Now my moment of 466 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: bliss in honor of this week's episode on Marilyn Monroe. 467 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: The Billboard's best selling popular retail records for the week 468 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: that Marilyn and Joe Demaggio were married the week of 469 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: January ninth, nineteen fifty four. Number one, Oh My by 470 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: Eddie Fisher, Number two, Rags to Riches by Tony Bennett, 471 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: number three, That's a Moore Dean Martin number four, Changing Partners, 472 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: Patty Page number five, Ricochet Teresa Brewer number six, Stranger 473 00:27:55,400 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: in Paradise Tony Bennett number seven, Stranger in Paradise four Aces, 474 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: number eighty five, EBI Frank chackis Field by Eddie Fisher, 475 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: number nine, six, Old Mind chop Et cal Right Tony Bennet, 476 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: number ten, That my Necesster That Paradise Tony Mars number one. 477 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: Fisher Quit talking and start mixing