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Speaker 1: him on Instagram Morgan Evans Music, Morgan Evans Music. You

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at it too. Following account doesn't affect me

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Speaker 1: you go tell your friends about the Boby Cast. Please

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Speaker 1: if there's an episode that you like, and here's today's show.

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471
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472
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Speaker 1: many people in Australia at that point, but yeah, yeah,

473
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474
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475
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476
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477
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Speaker 1: Go inside. I went to a tour. I did the

478
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Speaker 1: total touristy thing. You gotta do it. Yeah, it was

479
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,679
Speaker 1: fun for me. When you I imagine when you talk

480
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Speaker 1: to people, people always do your accent back yeah, a

481
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Speaker 1: little bit. A little bit gets old. I'll tell you

482
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Speaker 1: what though. We just did a promo trip in Australia

483
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, like four days straight in

484
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485
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Speaker 1: They're like, oh, so you sound American now, m So

486
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Speaker 1: that's happening. So they think you're losing your accent. Yeah,

487
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Speaker 1: I can't work it out. I did work it out once.

488
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: It was on the word awesome. I said awesome, And

489
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Speaker 1: where did you say that in an interview in Australia

490
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Speaker 1: And you said the American awesome? I said awesome, that's awesome.

491
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Speaker 1: She was like, what what's happened to you? I was like,

492
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Speaker 1: I guess, I mean hanging around a little. I'm interested

493
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Speaker 1: in your origin story here because I don't even know that.

494
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Speaker 1: I know that it's not really something you sit down

495
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Speaker 1: and talk about, Like I don't sit we don't sit

496
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Speaker 1: down and go hey man, so tell me your musical

497
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 1: origin story. Yeah. Mostly it's like, as I even, what's

498
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Speaker 1: been happening, what's been cool, what you've been watching? What

499
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Speaker 1: do you think of this album? Yeah, it's mostly that

500
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But like you moved to You start

501
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: coming to the States at what point? The first time

502
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: I came to Nashville was in two thousand seven. Was

503
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Speaker 1: Nashville your first place to come to? Like did you

504
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Speaker 1: try l A or New York or was it I'm

505
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Speaker 1: gonna go to Nashville. And why Nashville? Well, actually there was,

506
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Speaker 1: UM there's this competition in Australia and it was a

507
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Speaker 1: nationwide competition and they went they went around different towns

508
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Speaker 1: or whatever, and the winners of these talent competitions gout

509
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Speaker 1: and sing a song. And the winners of these um

510
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: competitions go to the final and the prize was when

511
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Speaker 1: a record deal, go record your first single in Nashville.

512
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Speaker 1: And so I started going in that when I was

513
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Speaker 1: like sixteen. So you started in during the contest. Now

514
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: are you playing playing your guitar as well? There's it

515
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Speaker 1: strictly singing and do you get to write it playing guitar?

516
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: And always, um, I was always singing songs that I wrote. Um.

517
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Speaker 1: I started writing songs because I thought that's what you

518
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Speaker 1: had to do to play to play shows. And UM

519
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Speaker 1: I went in at like four or five years in

520
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Speaker 1: a row, and then like the fourth or the fifth year,

521
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522
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Speaker 1: got to Nashville. So let's let's three wind four years

523
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Speaker 1: or five years. When you start to get in this competition,

524
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Speaker 1: you don't win the first thing. Did you already think

525
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526
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527
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Speaker 1: hopping in. I mean, I was already playing around town

528
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Speaker 1: a bunch and playing at school and and all that

529
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Speaker 1: kind of thing, and I've always been impatient to get

530
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Speaker 1: out and do whatever it was that I wanted to do. Um.

531
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Speaker 1: I guess going into competition, I was hoping I was

532
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Speaker 1: going to win it every year. But it wasn't like

533
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Speaker 1: something that I like rested my whole year around. It

534
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Speaker 1: was like, Oh, that's coming up. I'll into that, you know,

535
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Speaker 1: and um hey, I guess when it got to the

536
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537
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Speaker 1: open up like a whole world of Oh, that's how

538
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Speaker 1: that works. That's how that works. You know, I get

539
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Speaker 1: to do this, and my first time here in Nashville.

540
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Speaker 1: The first thing I did was, UM, I played at

541
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Speaker 1: this They called it the Global Artists Showcase, and it

542
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: was basically anyone that's not from America during CMA Fest

543
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Speaker 1: goes and plays this show. And I went and played

544
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Speaker 1: my part of it. How long ago was this? This

545
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Speaker 1: is in two thousand and seven and um and that

546
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547
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548
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Speaker 1: or Friday, and he was like, Hey, what are you

549
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Speaker 1: doing tonight or tomorrow night. It's like, I'm going down

550
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Speaker 1: to the stadium to play the stadium And he's like, Oh,

551
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Speaker 1: how would you feel about opening the stadium? Playing at

552
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Speaker 1: the stadium sounds pretty good? I loved And so within

553
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Speaker 1: four days of getting to Nashville, I was playing at

554
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Speaker 1: that stadium on the Friday night of c m A Fest.

555
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Speaker 1: And that was my first experience of Nashville. So you

556
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557
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Speaker 1: m A Fest. That happened? Is that how you thought

558
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Speaker 1: it worked for everyone? I had no idea, Like, I

559
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Speaker 1: don't know that I took it for granted intentionally, but

560
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Speaker 1: there was no way to appreciate what had happened without

561
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Speaker 1: being here. You know, what does that even mean? Open

562
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Speaker 1: the stadium? So what do you do? Well? I went

563
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Speaker 1: along and now they do it now it's a thing

564
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Speaker 1: like where someone acoustic plays at the stadium, right, But

565
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: this was before they were doing that, I guess. And

566
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Speaker 1: so I just went up and whoever it was that

567
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Speaker 1: was hosting the stadium that night was like Bla from Australia,

568
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Speaker 1: Morgan Evans, whatever, and then I went on and and

569
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Speaker 1: I remember being just so nervous and like I had

570
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Speaker 1: to thank two songs, and when I get nervous, my

571
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: like my hands don't work very well. And I remember

572
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Speaker 1: struggling to play guitar, but I remember my being able

573
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Speaker 1: to sing, and I remember that was actually like a

574
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Speaker 1: crazy high point to have so early in a career.

575
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Speaker 1: And I feel like that moment definitely was something that

576
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: referred to later on when things like obviously we're not

577
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,719
Speaker 1: happening as easily as that. I was like, that's that's

578
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: why you're doing it. That feeling right there, you know, yeah,

579
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Speaker 1: And man, that's crazy. I still when I tell that

580
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: story to anyone, they're like, what he what are you

581
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: talking about? But um, yeah, that happened. Did you just

582
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: blow them away at whatever? This world singer eatery contest

583
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: is that? I mean, like, how do you, I don't

584
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: performed that where they He's like, hey, because they're you know,

585
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: there are a ton of artists here, probably knows fifty artists. Yeah,

586
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: I mean now it makes no sense to me now,

587
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: but at the time, I mean that that Global Artist

588
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: show was like me and someone from Canada, someone from Scotland,

589
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: someone from England, you know, someone from New Zealand and um,

590
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: someone from South Africa. UM. I have no idea how

591
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: it happened where he got to ask me to go

592
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 1: play that show, but I mean, of course when he

593
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: said do you want to do it? I was like, yeah,

594
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: I'll be awesome. And then and I remember Brad Paisley

595
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: played that night and Miranda Lambert played that not it's awesome.

596
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: So it's two thousands oven and after how long were

597
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: you in town? That first a little set? A week?

598
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: Two weeks it was a week. So we recorded to

599
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: three songs and played those two shows, and yeah, that

600
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: was it. So you go back home, back home, and

601
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: you gotta figure it out. You just played the stadium

602
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: like you're ready to go, right, I guess it's so funny.

603
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: I remember I went back and one of my best

604
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: mates at the time, he was thinking about moving over

605
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: to Nashville. He's like, how was it? Man, It's like

606
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 1: best place on Earth. It's like there's nowhere that it

607
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 1: compared to that place. And he was like, cool, I'm

608
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: moving there, and he moved to Nashville straight away. Um,

609
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: but I guess part of my the prize for that

610
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: competition was the single that you recorded, you go back

611
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612
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Speaker 1: it out like a few months later, and um and

613
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Speaker 1: it did really well. And it you know what was

614
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: it called. It was called Big Skies Love that here

615
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Speaker 1: it is? How is it? There is no accent in singing.

616
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: I hear no act that. You just sound like a

617
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: dude turn that. I hear no accent there. Yeah. I

618
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: get off that all the time, to the point where

619
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: I actually started doing some research. Okay, I mean for me,

620
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: I just learned how to sing singing along to American accents.

621
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: That's like if I was singing along to a Goth

622
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: Brooks song or Glenn Campbell's song, or even to Keith

623
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Speaker 1: Ove and you know, it's like it sounds like an

624
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: American accent. And um, I in the research that I found,

625
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: I did find this one video of this um collection

626
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: of experts talking about the way the American accent approaches

627
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: vowel sounds and the way that it approaches vowel sounds

628
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: when you sing is more pleasing to the human ear.

629
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Speaker 1: And so that's why you will like even like people

630
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Speaker 1: you know from the UK or Australia or whatever, all

631
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,360
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632
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,600
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633
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: Shearon that doesn't necessarily for certain words he does, and

634
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: I think it just sounds better, so because it's easier

635
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: to take in. I don't know, it's it's so it's

636
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: so nice, scrubbles thing. I don't hear crap accent and

637
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: they do like like this video was funny though because

638
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: you had super long hair, The Big Guys video, Yeah,

639
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: it's funny, man. Things changed through the use that he

640
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: had a full full band of the video. Yeah, was

641
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: that it was theres your bandmates? Yeah, I mean that was.

642
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: The drummer in that video is my best friend since

643
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: I was five, and the bass player is my brother,

644
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: and the guitar players my first guitar teacher. That's what

645
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: that is. Yeah, we played together for a long time.

646
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: We like switched out a few different guitar players and

647
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: and we had another druma later on. But yeah, that

648
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: was a that was the format from like when I

649
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: was thirteen years old. How did Big Skies do? It

650
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: did great? It's it's funny too, like quite kind of

651
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: statistics compared to what you would understand in terms of

652
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: success here. But I mean it was I put one

653
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: song out and I ended up on two of two years,

654
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: and I got to open up shows for Brooks and

655
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: Done when they came, and um, Gary Allen was doing

656
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: really well down there at the time, and uh and

657
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: then when Taylor Swift came down for the first time,

658
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: she that song and asked me to go and open

659
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: her shows. And so it was just this crazy kind

660
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: of year and a half. The two years of like, wow,

661
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: is this what I only have one song out? Here?

662
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: We go? You know, you played a stadium and you've

663
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: had one song? Is it? Yeah? That was it. You

664
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: got it all figured out exactly. So you're on Australia.

665
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: Are you the guy? When the American k necks would

666
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: come through, they would go, oh, this is the cool

667
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: Australian guy. You should put him on he'll be your

668
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: your our our popular local player to like. At the time,

669
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: it wasn't really it was just starting to become a

670
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: thing for American country acts to come to Australia because

671
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: that never really happened much through the nineties. Garth Brooks

672
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: would come down and play stadiums and stuff, but not

673
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: many others would. And it was actually Brooks and Done

674
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: and Alan Jackson were the first two that went, hey,

675
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna go check it out down there, and and

676
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: their sort of success sort of you know, news kind

677
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: of spread in Nashville and and my manager at the

678
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,239
Speaker 1: time too, was also the promoter that would bring them

679
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: over and so that that kind of opened the gates

680
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: too to Nashville for Australia, which is now huge. You know,

681
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: everyone's going down there and having a great time. So

682
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: you're playing these shows in Australia. Are you thinking I

683
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: gotta get back to Nashville or are you thinking I'm

684
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: just gonna rule Australia. I don't know that I was

685
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: really thinking. I was just enjoying it. I mean, I

686
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: love playing live and and I'd never got to play

687
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: the crowds like that before. You know, it was like

688
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: just thrown into an arena or like a path club

689
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: of like screening Taylor Swift fans at that point, you know,

690
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: like love Story, it just came out like it was

691
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: like the Beatles or something, you know. And yeah, it

692
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: wasn't really until I guess maybe a year or so

693
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: into it it was like I need to put on

694
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: more music out and um and at the time I

695
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: just didn't have the vehicle to do that. Were you

696
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: kind of locally famous with that song? Yeah, I mean

697
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: in the country, well, look locally in the country Australian world.

698
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: You were kind of a deal in Australia. It was

699
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: like people would like, no that song or that would

700
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: know the guy who won that competition and then put

701
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: that song out and went on those twos or something. Yeah,

702
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: is there a big country It was there a big

703
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: country market period, even for local Australian acts. Yes. It

704
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: was very different though, and it's it's funny. I feel

705
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: like the best way to describe it is kind of

706
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: like Texas, where Texas has their own country music, but

707
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: they also Texans also obviously enjoy You Have and and

708
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: Luke Brian and things out of Nashville, and so we

709
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: have our own like Australian country music, and um, that

710
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: was kind of the main scene at the time. I

711
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 1: was in Australia and I know Keith all over the well, yeah,

712
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: let's right on the road from me here and lived

713
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: I was in austraight. He's like, hey, Texas, Hey, come over,

714
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: we're doing the things, so I won't go over to

715
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: his place. And I'm like, what is the country music

716
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: like here? And basically he made that same analogy. He

717
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: was like, well, it's definitely a niche yeah, he said.

718
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: But for what he told me was for him, he

719
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: knew that he had to get somehow get on pop

720
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: radio for him to actually like pierce the consciousness of

721
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: the Australian music listener. And for him it was the

722
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: he I think he went on the Voice. Oh he

723
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: was a judge. Yeah, yeah, not as am, not as

724
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: a contestant, but he was a judge on the Voice

725
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: and that was big for him over there. And then

726
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: the extremely popular Yeah, people who loved him on that

727
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 1: said people love him everywhere. But but he was like

728
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: yeah that he said that really mainstream to me. And

729
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: then they started playing him on pop radio and I I

730
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: remember at the time that that him and carry song was, Yeah,

731
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: it was really crushing it and he was like, what

732
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: about about to be number one on the pop station.

733
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: It's just funny now we're now in and to kind

734
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: of see that happened with you too, because but not

735
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: the band YouTube, but with you as well. Is that

736
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: you come over here and by the way, this song

737
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: goes number one for you first here on the country charts.

738
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: Here we'll come back to how much of a grind

739
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: it is to get a song up, but this song

740
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: goes over and goes number one? Right? And did it

741
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: hit the pop chart at all? Or is it that

742
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: your next one that does this? This was top but

743
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: oh your next one is the one that went number one?

744
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: Forever they drinking? Was the was the big one over there? Yeah? Yeah,

745
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: it was number for like twenty weeks weeks on the

746
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: country out it was, and there was a couple of

747
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: weeks pop number one. Yeah, And so did that change

748
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: everything for you in Australia Now that you have a

749
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: pop number one song, it's like a different place. Yeah,

750
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: it's a wild and I can't believe that it's you

751
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like we didn't. I just came

752
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: to Nashville and made music because I loved it, you know,

753
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: we didn't just that's the thing. There's no just you're

754
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: being humble because it's a lot of freaking work. Absolutely, absolutely,

755
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: But I mean I guess, I guess what surprised me

756
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: was that we didn't We didn't do like a pop

757
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: remix or something, you know what I mean, Like there

758
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: was nothing. We didn't change anything. That just radio down

759
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: there really took a chance on it, and people just

760
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: reacted to it, I guess. And yeah, when I go

761
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 1: down there, that's the song that everyone wants to talk about.

762
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: That's the song that everyone's singing to me and more

763
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: so they kiss somebody. Huh. Yeah, I mean it's it's wild. Yeah,

764
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: it's an amazing feeling. I've never had a song like

765
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: that before, So yeah, I appreciate it all. So okay,

766
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go back. So you go, you go

767
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 1: back home. You have this this big Skuy's touring on

768
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: it for a couple of years. When you go, I

769
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: I gotta go to Nashville at least some and are

770
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: you going back and forth? Did you move? How did

771
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: that work? It took a few years. Um and in retrospect,

772
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: if I had one regret in my life, which I

773
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: don't like any regrets because you're not who you are

774
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: without what you've been through. But it would have been

775
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: come back here sooner. And that's the only advice I

776
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: offered to anyone that asks for some But it was

777
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: probably three or four years before I was like, Okay,

778
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start going back. And I guess a lot

779
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: of that is because it's so far away, you know,

780
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: it's not it's not like just getting in your car

781
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: and driving. Yeah, it's a huge investment of time and

782
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: money and just also out on a limb to you know,

783
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: like you show up in Nashville with a guitar and

784
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: you're like, you're ten in line. You know, there's like

785
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: not nine people before you with that guitar, and um,

786
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 1: it can be a very intimidating place as well like that.

787
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 1: And so to work up the courage, I guess, and

788
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: and have that time and the you know, the ability

789
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: to come over took took me probably longer than it

790
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: shot off. But do you move? What do you move with?

791
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: You said you put on a boat? Are you moving

792
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 1: up in suitcases? Well? I came back and forth for

793
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: probably three or four years before I moved here, so

794
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 1: I would come over for two weeks or three weeks

795
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: to write songs, and then I would go back and

796
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: tour and then come back. And it got to the

797
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: point where one year I went back and forth nine

798
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: times and at the end of like I worked out,

799
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: I spent almost a month on an airplane that year.

800
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: That was it. That was like, all right, I'm moving there,

801
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: this is it, And um that was just over four

802
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: years ago. Now, how do you find how do you

803
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: find people to write songs with if you're not here

804
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: all the time? Like cultivating friendships? Well, that's the thing.

805
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: It's it's one. Like even after I moved here, they

806
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: were like, oh, so when are you coming back? When

807
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: are you coming back? Like, I'm here now, guys, this

808
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: is happening, you know, and and I feel like too

809
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: for for anyone that shows up in town with the guitar, Like,

810
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: the biggest challenge is to find who it is that

811
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: you're going to the best music with. You know, there's

812
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: the best songwriters in the world here, but it doesn't

813
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: mean you're going to make the best music with him,

814
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: And um, yeah, I spent a lot of a lot

815
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: of that time back and fourth thing, and even when

816
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: I got here, just writing with as many people as

817
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: I could, you know, with that was someone I met

818
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: at a bar, or someone my friend introduced me to,

819
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: and and just trying to find who it was that

820
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: you're going to click with. You move here and how

821
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: well when did you especially move to the States? Were you? Uh?

822
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: It was four years ago, so it was that. So

823
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,479
Speaker 1: you've been going back and forth for a few years.

824
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: You move here, So but what do you kind of

825
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: move into? Do you have something, you have a publishing

826
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 1: deal already established? Are you able to slide in and

827
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: have some income coming in? Are you playing off of

828
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: are you using a lot of your money that you've

829
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: saved up touring? Like how are you able to live?

830
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,959
Speaker 1: It was pretty much like tour save out and coming.

831
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 1: I didn't have a publishing deal or anything. I mean,

832
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 1: publishing deals in Australia are kind of a different different

833
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: bast published here though you didn't come over. I didn't

834
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,959
Speaker 1: have anything here, know and m dude, I couldn't even

835
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,280
Speaker 1: rent a place here because I didn't have any credit

836
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: history here, so you can't. So I actually had to

837
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: stay at a friend's place um for a few months

838
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: to like get a phone and like work all that

839
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: sort of stuff out, which is just stuff you don't

840
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: think about when you move to the other side of

841
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: the world. But I do feel like once you get

842
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: here though, it's kind of like what we were talking

843
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: about creativity was before. It's just like you here, it's

844
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: like you have to do it, and um, you have

845
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: no choice. You're living in a place where you know nobody.

846
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: Just yeah, what else you gonna do? And but I

847
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: will say that about Nashville is a lot of people

848
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: come here by themselves, so most people understand what it's

849
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: like to show up in in town by themselves. And

850
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: there is especially Phil Barton, who I know that your

851
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: buddies with. He was really good at the time, off

852
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 1: like he's obviously a busy dude too, but he would

853
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: always like take a call or reply to a text

854
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: and you want to catch up and just talk, or

855
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: you want to write a song and you'll be like yes,

856
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon at three o'clock or whatever. You know, he

857
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: was that guy. So it was cool that was it

858
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: was a handful of people like that, even when it

859
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: was like what am I even doing here? You know,

860
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: there was people like that that were they kind of

861
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: to inspire you when you were doing your Phil Barton impression.

862
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: I know Phil because Phil also has an accent. But

863
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: I don't think Mike heard an accent change because I

864
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: heard you. I saw your eyes do an impression, but

865
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: we did you ever hear an accent change it? So

866
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: what what wars fell from? Specifically? Do you know he's

867
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: from Melbourne? I think, yeah, so he's Phil and Eric

868
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: pass and I wrote When I Grew Up Together the

869
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: Kids song. But Phil's an Australian and everything he seeings

870
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: it's all. And you did an oppression of Pelm but

871
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: your accent didn't change, but I think in your mind

872
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: it did. Yeah. Yeah, I saw you kind of shift

873
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: when you did him, and you shifted back. Well. I

874
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: do feel like he's one of those people that when

875
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 1: you say his name, like anyone that knows him sort

876
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: of lights up when they remember him yelling he is

877
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: very bright, baby or chicken or something. You move here,

878
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: and like, how long did it take before you kind

879
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: of got all right? I can actually do this and

880
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: not be so intimidated by everyone around me, because I

881
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: think that's uh the common theme with a lot of

882
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: people who moved to town is they look around and go,

883
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: oh my god, everybody's so good. Like, where do I

884
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: fit in this the sea of all these giants? Yeah?

885
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: Where how long I take you before you got okay?

886
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: I can I can actually get in the mix here? Well,

887
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: I still wonder about that. But as I was mentioned before,

888
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 1: but um, I will say a guy named Brett James too.

889
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you know he and he and

890
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: my my former manager, um, we're friends as well. They

891
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: met on the c M A board or something like that,

892
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: and so he as a favor to my manager at

893
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: the time, wrote wrote with me one time kind of

894
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: really early on, and I remember him kind of being

895
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: one of those guys. It was like, chick, this guy's

896
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: number ones, Like what am I even doing in a

897
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: room with him? And and uh, and we just we

898
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: always had a good rapport and he would always like

899
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: kind of, well, that's a cool idea. Let's work on that,

900
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,439
Speaker 1: you know. And and so when you're sitting with someone

901
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: like that who has had that much success and you're

902
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: having you know, playing the game of kind of songwriting

903
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: tennis or whatever, just hitting them back and forth and

904
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: like going through that creative process with someone as successful

905
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: as that. That kind of gives you confidence to know that, hey,

906
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: well maybe like I can't contribute, you know, in a

907
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: meaningful way. And um, yeah, I would consider him one

908
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: of my great mates. Now I barely see him, but

909
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: when I do, it's like we're back on again. And

910
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: having that early on was great. But I do feel

911
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 1: like it really clicked sort of ironically when I went

912
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: back home for Christmas at the end of that first

913
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: year living here, and um, I was in my hometown

914
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: of Newcastle, but there was this songwriting camp on in

915
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: Sydney and they invited me down to it, and I

916
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: went down for three days and it just so happened

917
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 1: that the first day I got teamed up with Krista Stephano,

918
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 1: and the third day I got teamed up with Ashley Galley.

919
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: And by that Wednesday night, when everyone was doing their

920
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: like hang party, Chris and Ashley and I disappeared into

921
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: a studio and they were like, hey, what else you

922
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 1: got show us you demos? You need to come to Nashville.

923
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: Let's make a record. And I was like, really, I

924
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: just moved there. Here we go, you know. And I

925
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: remember that night and and that was so that was

926
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 1: in December and the following February we started to work together.

927
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 1: And I remember the first session we did together leaving

928
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 1: that thinking like not that we wrote the best song

929
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: in the world, but leaving it thinking like, oh, this

930
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 1: is something, like we're onto something here. And um, those

931
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: two started introducing me to the songwriting community that they

932
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: work with, which is obviously like that's the upper talented people. Yeah,

933
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: and and I mean I was getting to work with

934
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 1: people that I just kind of, you know, looked up

935
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: to for the for the previous sort of ten years.

936
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: And I think it wouldn't have been maybe six weeks

937
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: and we wrote Kiss Somebody, and that was kind of

938
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: the start of what became the record. So you write

939
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: this song. When you finished the song, you're like, Okay,

940
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: that's the best song I've ever written, or that's the

941
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 1: most radio song I've ever written, or that's just another

942
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: good song. It's funny, man, because I I loved writing it.

943
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: It was a really fun song to write. It was

944
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,479
Speaker 1: the first day I met Josh i was born, and

945
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: we just had a great time writing it. We the

946
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: demo we made whilst making it is a lot of

947
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: what you hear on the on the oltle like it's

948
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: very like just an inspired kind of recording process. And

949
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: and I remember afterwards we went to the tin roof

950
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: next or to Chris's studio and just had a drink

951
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: to celebrate, and he just land over to me and

952
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: he was like, I think we got one today and

953
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: that was it. He just said that. I was like,

954
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: no one's said that before, you know, And uh, yeah,

955
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: I knew I had fun writing. I knew I loved

956
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: the song, but I'd loved many other songs that I've

957
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: written before, so I sort of don't trust myself in

958
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 1: that way. But when he said that, I I feel

959
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: like I'll always remember that as like the start of

960
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: whatever we're gonna do next. Do you have a record

961
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: deal when you're at the song? No, you did not.

962
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: I had a deal in Australia, but not in the States.

963
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: Not in States, No, I remember, and to speak out

964
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: of place here, but I remember you being here and

965
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: not having a deal and you kind of seeing where

966
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: you were going to land. Yeah, So was there a

967
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 1: I know the answer these questions, I'm going to ask

968
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: them in a way I thought you answer these questions.

969
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: How was that process for you in finding a label?

970
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: To partner with or to be your label? Does it

971
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: turn into a big bidding war? Is it? What? Does it?

972
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: How did it happen for you? Um? I mean for

973
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: me because I was signed to Warner in Australia, so

974
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: there was kind of an open line of communication there

975
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: that had been opened because of me. Like, Hey, our

976
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: Australian guys over there in Nashville, take a look at

977
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 1: this stuff, you know, had they looked when you first

978
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: moved here and they were like it's not not the

979
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: right time. Yes, um, and we like f this. But

980
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: I will say my manager at the time, who like

981
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: he sort of he was like real switch switched on

982
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: to the point where he was like, I'm not going

983
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: to go take music into anybody until it's ready. He

984
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: took it in when I moved over and then you

985
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: just let it sit, you know. And Um, it wasn't

986
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: until we had kissed somebody and we had everything changes day,

987
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: drunk and dance with me. And once we had those

988
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: four that's when like Chris who had become invested in

989
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: the project at that point, and um rolled my manager

990
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: were like Okay, now it's time, Like let's let's let's

991
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: put this stuff out. And that's when the real conversation

992
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: started happening. And did you have conversations with multiple people? Yes,

993
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: we did have conversations with a couple of different labels.

994
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: But in the end of the day want I had

995
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 1: DIBs on me because of my Australian deal, and honestly,

996
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: I love the team that I get to work with

997
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: now anyway, so that worked out for the best. I

998
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: like that team too, and I try to stay out

999
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: of the mixes of teams and I try not to

1000
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: play the label stuff game at all, but it's hard

1001
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: to not get to know and not be friendly with

1002
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: people that are good people. And so you know, I

1003
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 1: like the president of your label. Yeah, I mean there's

1004
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: not a more passionate guy about music, about music in general.

1005
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: But man, wait wait, he's a def jam for a while,

1006
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: like he did hip hop. I mean they got, they

1007
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: got loves music like I've rarely well I go to

1008
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: dinner with anyone in the in the business period, but

1009
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: I will go and to sit with him. We don't

1010
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: talk about country music. It's just like he just loves music,

1011
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: and I liked that. I would like to work for

1012
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: someone that with that comes someone who knows a lot,

1013
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: and it's very and with passion comes, you know, sometimes

1014
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: we're tough to work for. But but but I wonder

1015
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: you go over and they're like, okay, we'll take you now.

1016
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: Are you like okay? Now? You want why anyone were

1017
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: two years ago? A little bit? I mean you you

1018
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 1: always feel that a little bit because everything's personal when

1019
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: everything you're speaking to the yeah, and and it's so

1020
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: you just have to remind yourself, you know. I say

1021
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: that like I've got it all worked out, but I

1022
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: say it because I need to say it to myself

1023
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: all the time. Um. And I will say, like, if

1024
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: there's anything that I've on, it's just everything is to

1025
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: do with songs, you know. And I didn't have that.

1026
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: I didn't have those songs at the time, and those

1027
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: songs were way better like when you play big s guys.

1028
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: I was like cringing, you know, when you're playing kids somebody.

1029
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it gives me, like, you know, a

1030
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: good feeling because I'm so proud of that, and um,

1031
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: and I feel like having those songs was it was

1032
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: just the right time that everything happened in that way. So, um,

1033
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: it was definitely hard to feel kind of any sort

1034
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: of bitterness about that moment when you sign a deal.

1035
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: Are you rich when you sign a record? There? When

1036
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: you sign your deal like that, you know the answer

1037
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: to that. I'm asking questions here. No, no, absolutely not.

1038
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: So how does that work? Do they say, here's here's

1039
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: a little bonus you can pay your rent because we're

1040
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: gonna need you out on the road doing all this stuff.

1041
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: Um like a little uh yeah, it's it's it's sort

1042
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: of you can't tell me. I know the answer to that.

1043
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: I know the answered to a lot of I'm kind

1044
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: of walking around a little bit because I want to

1045
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: hear what your take on it is true. I mean, no,

1046
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: I didn't get one of those deals where you get

1047
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: a bunch of money up front that that's not at

1048
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: all true. I did sign a publishing deal at the

1049
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 1: same or like very soon after with with the same

1050
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: with one of Chapel. So so they're paying you to

1051
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: write and to record. Yeah, And so the way that

1052
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: those deals work is you get like a certain amount

1053
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: per month or whatever you can live on and you know,

1054
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: be out there promoting whatever you're doing without freaking out

1055
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: about being able to pay the pills. You know, isn't

1056
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: it crazy that you get to go and create art

1057
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: and get paid, like when you just look at it,

1058
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: like when you lay it out, and not to take

1059
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: anything away from the fact that you have worked super

1060
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: hard to do what you do and you're talented, but

1061
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people that are talented. Yeah. Absolutely.

1062
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 1: Isn't it crazy that you get paid and get to

1063
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: live a life, a wonderful life, a wonderful, grinding life.

1064
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: But to just make art, to just play songs, Yeah,

1065
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: it sounds real. It is incredible. Do you ever have

1066
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: to take those to have those moments where you start

1067
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: to get upset at the whole process, in the whole

1068
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: talent and the whole and you're like just stupid. But

1069
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: then you have to go, wait a minute, let me

1070
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: take let me take a break and just examine what

1071
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: we're doing here. Yeah. All the time, man, I feel

1072
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: like my whole life is a balance of that of like, oh,

1073
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: like work harder, work harder, you know, grind, Like I

1074
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: totally dig all of the stuff you say, you know,

1075
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: like grind, repeat all that stuff that could feel like

1076
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: that's what I do day in and day out. And

1077
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: sometimes at the end of the day when maybe you

1078
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: haven't accomplished whatever you thought you might have accomplished that day.

1079
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: It is easy to get down, but again, you just

1080
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: got to remind yourself, man, like, this is so lucky

1081
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: to be doing this, and I mean I've been doing

1082
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: it for so long to appreciate the level that I

1083
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 1: get to do it at at this moment in my

1084
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: life is incredibly special. You're out with the flats now. Yeah,

1085
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: we just did the first weekend. Yeah, so that on Instagram?

1086
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: How did they go? A? Yeah? I love those guys

1087
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: are good guys, Huh. I love the like the the

1088
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: number of hit, huge hit songs they have is just

1089
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: like you forget until you see the show and it's

1090
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: wild and there's such great guys too. Yeah, they're good dudes. Um.

1091
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: We have had J over here last week two two

1092
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 1: weeks ago or so. Listen to that pod us. Yeah,

1093
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: and I enjoyed it. I enjoyed him. We you know,

1094
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: we hung out for a while and talk. You brought

1095
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: up something earlier that I wanted to hit back on

1096
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 1: and it kind of goes back into this Jay things.

1097
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: I know those guys. I don't ever see those guys

1098
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: in town, like you kind of established these relationships, and

1099
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: if you don't prioritize, you never see each other. You

1100
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: may like each other, but unless you go we are

1101
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 1: making a point to actually see each other on this day,

1102
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 1: it never happens. And so Jay was over. We were like,

1103
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: let's just hang out and talk for a few minutes.

1104
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 1: Because in this town, like you said, you meet people

1105
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: and then you're gone. That's it. I see more people

1106
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: on the road than I do in Nashville. Me too. Yeah,

1107
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: Like I'll spend like if raging idiots or if I'm

1108
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: doing I'll need to spend more time with people. If

1109
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: we're out and there's a bunch of busses hanging out

1110
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,479
Speaker 1: than than ever in town. That's like a rare moment

1111
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: of downtime, isn't it. After the shows, Like hang on,

1112
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: you know we we had a really good hang with

1113
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: Gary the other night, just sort of knocked on the

1114
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 1: bus door or and sort of popped in and hung

1115
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: out for a couple of hours. And he's like, God,

1116
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 1: bless the broken road, come on him. He's the craziest singer.

1117
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: Him and Shane Mooney, they're like a different, different level

1118
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: of singer. Yeah, I think Shay and in my head,

1119
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: I always have this list, this power list of the

1120
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: best singers, and it's hard to compare because everybody's so good.

1121
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: But I think it's always been shay there. There are

1122
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: a couple of those, Lauren Elena pound for pound because

1123
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: she's even, but like Daniel Bradberry, she's like one ft

1124
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: one and it's a monster of awast like that when

1125
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: she came in, actually measure she's one ft one and

1126
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: she thinks like that, She'll, yeah, she's that. How good

1127
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: of a singer are you in your mind? Uh? I

1128
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: feel like I write to my voice, so I enjoy

1129
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: singing the songs that all right? Would you go up

1130
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: without a guitar and do an entire set with no guitar? No?

1131
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: One time. One time my luke stationed and my guitar

1132
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: died on the same gig, which is very unusual for

1133
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: both things to go down. And I was in sugar Land, Texas,

1134
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: opening for Reba McIntire about three years ago, and I

1135
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: remember trying to tell a joke and then I remember

1136
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: starting to sing the American anthem that's that's a desperate God.

1137
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: But everyone sang it with me, and that was it.

1138
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 1: I was like, thank you A good time to walk

1139
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: up stage. Isn't it funny how when things aren't going

1140
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: exactly as we feel comfortable to, everything speeds up like

1141
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, my god.

1142
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: If you have just taken a beat even ten seconds,

1143
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: you know, like, all right, let me think about this

1144
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 1: for one second, even on stage in front of all

1145
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: those people. But instead, as humans, we react like this,

1146
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: this is not feel normal. Oh my god. It must

1147
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: do them to quick and then you do things like

1148
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: trying to tell a joke and sing the national anthem.

1149
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: It's like the longest ten seconds of your entire life.

1150
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: You've doubted everything you've done up to that point, and

1151
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: then you sing the American national anthem. It's funny to

1152
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: me that this song that Dylan Scott cut Um hooked,

1153
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: would you wrote? I did? Yeah. I'm always curious as

1154
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: to how songs are hits for other people and what

1155
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: and did you just not want the song or was

1156
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: it not timed right with your record? Like how did

1157
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: he get this song that obviously is really good? Um,

1158
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: it wasn't for me. He I wrote that song with

1159
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: Seth Ennis and an Australian producer, Lindsay Rhymes and Um

1160
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: we all loved it straight away, and I loved it

1161
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: at the time, and it was actually in the pile

1162
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: of songs that I was gonna like the cut pile,

1163
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: you know, which it wasn't like, we're going to cut

1164
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: that song, but it was in the pile that we

1165
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: had at the time. And um, I was in the

1166
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: studio one day with Chris and we were cutting something

1167
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,919
Speaker 1: else and um I got an email or a call

1168
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: or something and it said, hey, Dylan Scott has just

1169
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: cut looked are you okay with that? I remember thinking,

1170
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: let's see my pile there, but he's already done. Man.

1171
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 1: I never met the guy at the time, and it

1172
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: was definitely like a weird feeling for a couple of minutes.

1173
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: But then I mean, for someone else that writes songs,

1174
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: to cut one of your songs is the absolute highest

1175
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: compliment that you can be paid as a songwriter. And

1176
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 1: I had that conversation with Chris, who is obviously Christo

1177
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: stephanos Holm referring to he's obviously had a level of

1178
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: success that's like just crazy, and so he's a good

1179
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 1: dude to ask about it, you know, and a little

1180
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: bit you're past I would have been no I mean,

1181
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: I guess I'm still learning how it worked. You know.

1182
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: I was like, but you cannot be is not the

1183
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 1: right word. You cannot know how something work. Can still

1184
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: be upset unintelligently, Yeah maybe, I mean, I wish someone

1185
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 1: had asked me before it had happened. But it's so funny,

1186
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: like when you look back on moments like that and

1187
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: feelings like that two years later, and this is like

1188
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: one of the best things that's ever happened. This is

1189
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: so cool that he put that out and had a

1190
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: big hit with it, and and I get to play

1191
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: that in my shows now, you know. And and honestly,

1192
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: that song probably wouldn't have fit my album the way

1193
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: that it is, and um, it all works out for

1194
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: the best. But yeah, it was a weird day. I

1195
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: remember when it happened. Of like it should be a

1196
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: day you're probably high fiving everyone, but you kind of like,

1197
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: what about you know, it's a precious thing. So the

1198
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: song goes and number two, not number one. That's a

1199
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: weird thing that songs peak at number two. Yeah, it's

1200
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: a rare thing that songs peak at number two. It

1201
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: is usually if they're gonna peae a high, they'll peek

1202
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: at four or five, but usually if they get to two, yeah,

1203
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: well I can. Usually they go to know what what what? What?

1204
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: What happened? Do I know what happened? How idea? I

1205
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: mean that I do. Someone told me that's like the

1206
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: the equal longest chatting single or something like that, like

1207
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: a fifty six week single, which is pretty amazing accomplishment.

1208
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: And um, I mean, I wish it had a number

1209
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: one next to it, but it's It's one of those things.

1210
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a stressful time too, when you're

1211
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: looking at a song like that, if like, is it,

1212
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: is it gonna is it gonna work? Is it gonna

1213
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: be a number one song forever you know? Or is

1214
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: it gonna be a hit song, a top five song

1215
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: or whatever? Did you even know it was gonna be

1216
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: a single when he cut it? Uh? I think so?

1217
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: I think they. I think they said he's cut it's

1218
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: going to be his next single, which obviously made that feeling. Yeah, yeah,

1219
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: it wasn't gonna be like track eight that no one

1220
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: ever heard. You could do and like Eric Pass, they

1221
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: did on Friday night because Lady A had cut Friday

1222
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: Night and uh mind pulling this stup for me, Mike

1223
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: Lady and abell Um cut Friday Night and according to

1224
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: Eric that we're gonna put it out as their next single. Well,

1225
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: they decided to shut the record down and move on

1226
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: to the next record, so they never put it out,

1227
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: and so it was like basically a track eight and

1228
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: he's like, well, what am I gonna do? So he

1229
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: re cuts it, puts it out, and he goes, I

1230
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: think it is number one. Ya. They cut it, and

1231
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: then he but he wrote it and then he ended

1232
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: up recutting it and put it out number and went

1233
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: number one. I had a conversation like that with a

1234
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: couple of much more successful right than I the other

1235
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: night about that, the fact that that doesn't happen often enough,

1236
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: and and great songs get left behind, you know, um,

1237
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: especially by big superstized you know, like someone like Thomas Rhett.

1238
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: It's like fourteen songs on an album, probably twelve of

1239
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: them could be singles on the radio, you know, but

1240
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: he only has time to put out he has time

1241
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: to put out four or five now maybe, but because

1242
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: they moved so fast, Yeah, but still like there's still

1243
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: seven songs on there that are incredible and why why

1244
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: should that be? Where they kind of live forever. They

1245
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: can have another lot somewhere else. Put I think there's

1246
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: sixteen on his next album. Yeah, yes, something like that.

1247
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: It's sixteen tracks. And I was like, dude, I'm talking

1248
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: to Hi about it. Last week. I was like, how

1249
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: in the world I'm i supposed to listen and like

1250
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: fall in love with all sixteen of these songs like

1251
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: this is three EPs just hit me like every three

1252
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: months of the new EP, like let me fall in

1253
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: love with all of them. Um, you know, he wrote,

1254
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: he tells a good story where you have like Friday

1255
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: night from not working our computer shut down where we'd

1256
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: on the studio too, because one of the last one

1257
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: of the last trip, we don't have computers. We have

1258
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: a tape deck over there. We're trying to pull tapes. Um.

1259
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: Thomas Rhett wrote Old Dominion's new song Oh some people do,

1260
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: and that was it was a similar story that he

1261
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: told me. He said him and Matt Ramsey had written

1262
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 1: it together and they were like, well who gets to

1263
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: keep it because we both love it and Old Dominion

1264
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: you know it's it's they cut it on the record. Crazy.

1265
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: It is crazy. I feel like then maybe the two

1266
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: most guilty artists of just cutting like an album full

1267
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: of singles. The Old Dominion do it too? Old Dominion,

1268
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Speaker 1: I think is my favorite album artist. Yeah. I see

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Speaker 1: that they've put out two records, and every song on

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01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: both records have just I can just turn it on

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Speaker 1: and listen, and I can't do that with everybody. Yeah,

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01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: there's something like really special about what those guys have

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Speaker 1: going on. We played a couple of months opening for

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Speaker 1: them at the start of the year and watching this

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01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: show every night. Even the songs that haven't been hits

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01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: on the radio sound like it when they played them live.

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Speaker 1: And then they do this thing where they break it

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Speaker 1: down in the middle and play all the hits it

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01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: they've written ten or twelve just verse choruses of like

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Speaker 1: all these massive smash It's an incredible show. Yeah, whatever

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01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: they're doing, they're doing right. I got to write with

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Speaker 1: them once on the road. Them all them are like

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Speaker 1: Trevor Matt. It was Trevor, Matt and Brad. I felt

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Speaker 1: like I joined All Dominion for about hours and it

1285
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: was so cool to see how they all work together,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's really special. It's cool to be a

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Speaker 1: part of Last Week in Australia. You want two a

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Speaker 1: p r A Awards for country Work of the Year.

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Speaker 1: Is that the is that the title country work of

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Speaker 1: the Year is how you guys a song? Uh apera

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01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: is what you would say? It's like as cap or

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Speaker 1: b M. I it's those awards and Work of the Year.

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Speaker 1: I think. I don't know why they call it work

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01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: of it they call it though, yeah they do. It's

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01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: for day drunk. Yeah, which has made you super famous

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01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: in Australia a lot more than I was before, that's sure.

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01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: Like who's more famous? What's the actress's name? The funny

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01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 1: actress in Australia kind of the blonde here? Who's most

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Speaker 1: fast personal Australia right now? Like current? Like current famous

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01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 1: like Chris Hamsworth or something like good one. Let's do

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01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 1: this power five Australian famous people right now, Rebel Wilsons.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about, okay, at number one? Is Chris

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01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: Hams work? Dude? I don't know, no, no, but I'm

1304
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: just I'm not saying everyone but in your mind right well,

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01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: it's funny because my mind is like walked by. I

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01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: guess who I follow on Twitter? And fair enough Chris

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01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: Hams warred the number one Hugh Jackman. It's like, what

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01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: absolutely at number two Hugh Jackman. Uh, Kole Kidman and

1309
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: Keith gotta be up there, right if they're on your list, well, okay,

1310
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 1: they're on there. And maybe in the next one b

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01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: and be Russell Crowe or something like that. People that

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01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: have been doing it at a really high level for

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01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: a long time. I feel like other most known people,

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01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 1: anybody from Australia that's in the States, reach out and

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Speaker 1: be like, hey, good to see a home homeboy making it.

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01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean whenever I whenever I run into

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Speaker 1: people back in home. I ran into a guy named

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Speaker 1: Dean Lewis the other day. He was we were staying

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01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: in the same hotel and he was the first person

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01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: I ran into at the coffee shop outside and he

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01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: was like Hey, I was okay, it's congratulations and everything.

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01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: Who's like, I said, the same thing, guy named Dean Lewis,

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01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 1: He Um, yeah, what what's his big hit song? Mike?

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01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: You just had this song blow up on the on

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01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: Spotify and be all right, yeah, b all right, um

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Speaker 1: Dean Lewis, Huh do I know him? Mike? I have

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Speaker 1: to ask Michael, I know at this point. I've heard

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01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: of me. It's pretty good. So he's Australian anyway, he

1329
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 1: was an example of that. We just kind of ran

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01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: into each other and I said, I know this cru

1331
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: from the ground to see you sad into your eyes.

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Speaker 1: Oh this is the Parmaily guy. Parmaily cut the song

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01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: as are single. Yeah, nights are single. It's Parmaly single. No, God,

1334
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: I knew that guy. Awesome cool? Yeah, yeah, look at

1335
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: you so that you recognize that dude. Is it a

1336
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: coffee shop? You recognize Dean Lewis? Yeah, you recognize you

1337
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: bumped into each other at the front. Yeah, it was awesome.

1338
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: Look at you guys. Are your Australians fantastic? Where was

1339
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: was that in town? No? That was that was in

1340
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: Australia all right. He played in Nashville recently, but I

1341
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: wasn't not in town to see it. Oh, there we go,

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01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 1: there it is. That's the Parmily Virgin right now. We

1343
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: got three three running at once. We had nothing more there.

1344
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 1: It is, so you win for day Drunk when a

1345
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 1: couple awards were there, which is that's your big song there? Huh?

1346
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 1: You wouldn't end the show with kiss Somebody? You now

1347
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: in the day drunk in Australia. I guess how long

1348
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 1: you're sat here in the States when you opened for

1349
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: Flats minutes? Have you done the thing where you go

1350
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: you run around the whole stage and go over your

1351
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: time because they love that. We the first night, I

1352
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: think I've played three minutes over or something the first

1353
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: night and the stage man manage it like quickly let

1354
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: us know, And how does he say that to you?

1355
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 1: It wasn't directly to me, but then the next night,

1356
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 1: before I went on stage, he came and checked in.

1357
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: He was like, so you know you've got a twenty

1358
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: five minutes, said tonight, right, yes, sir, here we go.

1359
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 1: I have heard that story, the Eric Church story, the legendary,

1360
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 1: and I've had them both tell it, the Flats the

1361
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 1: older version, and Churches told me his version. Basically they're

1362
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: basically the same version. And the crazy thing from that

1363
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: is that when they kicked Carry Church off the tour,

1364
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: Taylor Swifts filled in all right, and then that was

1365
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 1: kind of the start of her. Yeah. Well the next

1366
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: thing you know, um that Dylan Scott's on and they

1367
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 1: make you a good amount of money a songwriter. I

1368
01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: just got the first check for it the other day

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01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: just now. Yeah, we talked about this last time I

1370
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 1: saw you, well it was probably six weeks ago. Now,

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01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 1: last time I saw you, remember, I said, people keep

1372
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: telling me about this check. I've never seen one. One

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01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 1: came in and it was I mean for me completely

1374
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: that long. Yes, it's a long time. Yeah, but that

1375
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 1: was the seventh most played song on radio last year.

1376
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 1: That was a really big song for him and obviously

1377
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: for me as a right. I so um, very very

1378
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: grateful for that one. I saw Ryan her tweet do

1379
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 1: something funny. I guess you got are going to play

1380
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 1: together in Memphis You're donn show and he tweeted out

1381
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: Guys with Famous Wives Tour nineteen pretty. Do you feel

1382
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: I know Kelsey was that I think I saw in

1383
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 1: its story Kelsey was at the flat show. Yeah, she

1384
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 1: actually came out for the whole run on the weekend.

1385
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: Do you feel pressure that what she's here? I gotta

1386
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 1: put her on stage with me to the fans, like

1387
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: if they know she's there her. I don't know. That's

1388
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 1: kind of a weird thing because I never want that

1389
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,919
Speaker 1: to be an expectation obviously because she can really come out.

1390
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: But I love it when she comes out personally, Like

1391
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: if if I was playing around the house, I'd prefer

1392
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: it if she was singing with me. So um, we

1393
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: played three shows and I brought her out on one

1394
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 1: of them. I thought that was a good I kind

1395
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 1: of defer to her and all that kind of stuff, like,

1396
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 1: I leave it as an open invitation whenever you want,

1397
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 1: no pressure, if you want to sing, if you want

1398
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: to do your hair, come out. If you can pressure her,

1399
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: you're her husband, so you're you're the one who can

1400
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: pressure her. I guess I could, Yeah, but you don't. No,

1401
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,919
Speaker 1: I don't feel like anything anything good creatively comes out

1402
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: of that kind of pressure. So, and I'm also very

1403
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 1: aware of that. I've kind of been hyper aware of

1404
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,919
Speaker 1: everything to do with her career and my career since

1405
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 1: we started dating. So it's kind of I kind of

1406
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: leave most of it up to her whether she wants

1407
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 1: to make it work together. You and I we both

1408
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: share the distinction of having a really amazing on or

1409
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 1: given to us. We're the only two that I know

1410
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 1: they've had this given to us. Do you know what

1411
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm talking about? No, for me, it was a really

1412
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 1: big deal, and that I didn't know that you had

1413
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 1: been given this on or either, and it makes me

1414
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 1: feel oh happier frankly, because it's you know, two cool

1415
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: guys just making it and a lot of people see it.

1416
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 1: It's it's printed. Okay, what do you think it is?

1417
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 1: It's printed. It's printed. Yeah, picked, there's a picture of you.

1418
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 1: There's a picture of me somewhere that there is a

1419
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: picture of you. Well, let's just say it was in

1420
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 1: the same magazine. Oh are you talking about the flight

1421
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:36,560
Speaker 1: magazine magazine? There's a whole feature you opened up this

1422
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 1: as airline. You pull it out of the back of

1423
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 1: the flat and there you are. Moran Evans Aline. I

1424
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 1: feel like I've had more text and tweets about that

1425
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 1: than any interview I've ever done. Yeah, well, I'm glad

1426
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: we share the the only two I know that that

1427
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: have gotten that on Or. Did you have to go

1428
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 1: do to a photos shoot? Because I did. They came.

1429
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 1: I guess they have a Nashville photographer or something like that.

1430
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 1: He came to the label one day when we were

1431
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 1: do and a bunch of pressed. Yeah, and we did

1432
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: a photo shooting about five seconds and then he left.

1433
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 1: Though that was it. Here's what you said in your interview.

1434
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 1: I rack up rapid rewards points traveling for work and

1435
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 1: use them for vacation. I like to spend time with

1436
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 1: my wife and disappear for a bit. I look at you, there,

1437
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 1: you are. You can just you can just see that

1438
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 1: coming out him my mouth, exactly like that guy. He's

1439
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 1: an avid surfer and his first close encounter in the

1440
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 1: water where the shark was last year he saw four

1441
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 1: ft sharks swim right by him. He used to go

1442
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 1: to the beach almost every day and go surfer swim

1443
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 1: before the day would start. Jump out one of these

1444
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 1: wadis like, are you big time over there? Meet our

1445
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: may a lister Morgan Evans. The show is yours now,

1446
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 1: all right, do you have it? Listen? We've been here

1447
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 1: for an hour, just here talking it up. I think

1448
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 1: that I have a lot of notes on you, because

1449
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:57,679
Speaker 1: you know, when you know somebody just kind of see

1450
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 1: where it goes more so than following notes, and then

1451
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 1: feel like I had much many notes to go by.

1452
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: I didn't want to run through some of your songs

1453
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 1: for a second. As he as he pulls us up

1454
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,679
Speaker 1: and I put Mike on double duty. Uh, I love

1455
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 1: this dance with Me song is probably my favorite song.

1456
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 1: I think I texted you that when it came out

1457
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is my favorite song. I

1458
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: listen to it alone in the closet. Here is Dance

1459
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 1: with Me right here feeling obviously Kelsey's there. That's your

1460
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 1: favorite song to that's my that's my favorite song. I

1461
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: love it. I love it, love it, love it. Hi,

1462
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:48,640
Speaker 1: here's young again from Morgan Evans Switcham. Well, there's me

1463
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: in the magaze. Hey, my picture looks I don't. I

1464
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 1: guess I didn't see yours in the magazine. Which You's

1465
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 1: that big in the actual magazine? Yeah, I think it

1466
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: was exactly this. Of course it's probaly bigger. They're probably

1467
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 1: the better looking guys bigger, bit smaller, and you're probably

1468
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 1: they probably put his height so you're like an inch taller.

1469
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: In you haven't made the page a little bigger, just

1470
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 1: the one page. Yeah, yeah, so look at us. Put

1471
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: in the hours. You'll mess up a lot, but you've

1472
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 1: got to make mistakes to get better. That's why I

1473
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: said I love it. I believe it. How many points

1474
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 1: do you have in Southwest Point? Do you have it?

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Speaker 1: You know? I have so many too, I like I

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01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: would like half million, do you really? I just I

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Speaker 1: have a million. I don't know if I have half

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01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 1: a million. I might have close to that though. I

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01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 1: just spent like eight thousand to fly because my system

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01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 1: was going home, and I was like, just use my

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01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 1: points because I fly so much for work that I

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01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 1: have all of them. I'm gonna pull my nup real quick.

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Speaker 1: I have three fifty thousand. Let me see, that's a

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01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 1: good amount. That's a lot of flights. Yeah, he's not

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Speaker 1: three thousand. Let's see what I have after using there

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Speaker 1: you go, that's a lot. How much lot? I don't

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Speaker 1: even know how much? How much? Does Like? Can you

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01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 1: fly someone from New York to Nashville for eighty thousand points?

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01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:56,600
Speaker 1: I flew my assistant here in Boston to back with

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01:11:56,680 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 1: like one day notice for forty five thousand points. So yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: we can just fly all over the world to make

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Speaker 1: all the stops. Listen, it's good to have you up here,

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Speaker 1: it's good to see you. We have to go now,

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01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 1: find a cool place because the whole thing now is

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01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 1: taking cool pictures. But I want to put on my

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Speaker 1: feet so I can promote things. You have to go

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01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 1: find a cool arts about to take a picture. So

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01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 1: if that's our our next mission. You have a beautiful

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Speaker 1: house here, Thank you very much built it. It's always weird.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like, hey, man, you're beautiful. It's almost like

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Speaker 1: when I would when I would have a girlfriend, they'd

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01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 1: be like, man, your girlfriend so hot? Like what do

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01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 1: you say? Thank I didn't build her? That's her? I mean,

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01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,719
Speaker 1: are you saying that because you're surprised that I'm dating her? Like? Wow,

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01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 1: your girlfriend so hot? Uh? Are you? It's like, people go,

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01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 1: you have a nice house. I know that's the normal

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01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 1: thing to say, and thank you very much, But the

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01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 1: part of me that feels um anxious and self cond

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01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 1: just goes, did you not expect me to have a

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01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 1: nice house? Do you think I'm a loser? Do you

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01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,640
Speaker 1: secretly talk bad about do you hate me? Are you

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01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 1: gonna it? Just broke go down that spiral? You know?

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01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 1: This neighborhood is beautiful too, though, this is this, this

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01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 1: street makes me want to go and move to a

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01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: neighborhood like this. Um, I like and and I'm not

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01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 1: gonna mention where you live, but I like where you

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01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 1: live too because everything it's close, there's everything's around. We

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01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 1: live in a condo so and I used to live

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01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:28,719
Speaker 1: in a condo downtown and I like that walking around.

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01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 1: But now it's like I got a little space. I

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01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 1: guess I'm good. Do you feel like you're more relaxed

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Speaker 1: to you? I don't get to come here enough. I'm

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01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 1: not at home enough. But yes, when I do come,

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Speaker 1: I do feel like I feel pretty good about it. Good,

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01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 1: feel pretty good? All right? Well that's it. Are we done?

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Speaker 1: Mike does there? Sounds working? All right? Morgan Evans, It's

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Speaker 1: been a pleasure of my friend. I thought you had

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01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:55,919
Speaker 1: done this show like three times already. That's fine. That's

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01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 1: the funny thing. We're actually talking where I was like,

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01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: hey should come up and uh and I stop talking

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01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 1: to Mike last week and I was like, Morgan has

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01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 1: never done the show and he was like no, I said, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm a heart he has many times. Morgan Evans I

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Speaker 1: follow on Instagram at was is this this your name?

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01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 1: Morgan Evans music music? Somebody got you on just Morgan Evans. Yeah,

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01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 1: somebody got me on just at Bobby Bones and I

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01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 1: can't even get it back a mry bibbones. Yeah. It

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01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 1: wasn't missed for a while, but then got a nice

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01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 1: house and I changed it to mr. So that's the

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Speaker 1: whole thing, all right, that's they'll see you next time.

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Speaker 1: Everybody