Speaker 1: Oh hey, there, it's me Jack. You've caught me unwinding,
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Speaker 1: a lot of good ones and at number one, well,
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Speaker 1: the start of all ten, so we hope you enjoy it.
Speaker 1: We hope you enjoyed listening to this year of TDZ
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Speaker 1: Season three, twenty.
Speaker 2: Episode four of Daily's I Gustay production of iHeartRadio. This
Speaker 2: is a podcast where we take a deep dive into
Speaker 2: America's shared consciousness. And it is Friday, January fifth, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four.
Speaker 1: That's too many Come on, nah, too many number.
Speaker 3: That's like buffer overflow error number of years. Right, if
Speaker 3: we were on like a four bit machine, we'd be done.
Speaker 1: Well. My name is Jack O'Brien aka. So gang time
Speaker 1: sex is not allowed, but check out this loophole I
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Speaker 1: b and have all the homies jump on the bed.
Speaker 1: So gang time might seem strange, but you'll still get
Speaker 1: a planet when you are dead. I know how to
Speaker 1: abstain and still bone. That is courtesy of Rezik, a throwback.
Speaker 1: I think Resik since my displeasure that we were in
Speaker 1: the year twenty twenty four and gave me an ak
Speaker 1: from a subject we talked about. I think back in
Speaker 1: the late eighties, a little long time ago. I love you.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious how that came to you, Rezik on
Speaker 1: the discord, like you're just like, oh shit, remember that
Speaker 1: story they talked about years ago? Anyways, thank you for that.
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined by a very special guest
Speaker 1: co host hilarious a brilliant TV writer, producer. You know
Speaker 1: him from the Joses Races podcast. It's Andrew two.
Speaker 3: I just want to take a moment to wish a
Speaker 3: happy New Year to all the sun worshiping freaks in
Speaker 3: the white community. I don't know what you know, what
Speaker 3: you guys got going on, but happy New Year.
Speaker 1: I guess sun worshippers, Yeah, you freaks.
Speaker 3: Weird MoonLife Forever the la true Calist.
Speaker 1: Well, Andrew, we are throwed to be joining our third
Speaker 1: seat by a very talented writer, stand up comedian podcast
Speaker 1: host of The Bechdel Cast.
Speaker 4: Which takes down the patriarchy one movie at a time,
Speaker 4: and it is just one of the best podcasts in existence.
Speaker 4: Also happened to have a master's degree in film the
Speaker 4: most anagrammable in the English language, such as nine Tit Dracula.
Speaker 4: But when you read the name, when when you read
Speaker 4: the letters in order, it is Kaitlin.
Speaker 5: Yes, Latin dancer Uti danser Uti.
Speaker 1: Caitlin. You were just on, You're on. Like the last
Speaker 1: episode that we did before the Break, the fuck Around episode,
Speaker 1: What a great time was that was so fun And now,
Speaker 1: unfortunately I regret to inform you this is the photographic
Speaker 1: negative of that episode. This is the all business episode,
Speaker 1: just hard news stories one after the other. Everything from
Speaker 1: images of Steamboat Willie piloting one of the planes into
Speaker 1: the twin towers to Steamboat Willie drenched income. We're covering
Speaker 1: it all, folks, all the stories that happened for the break.
Speaker 1: That's that's basically it. We're just gonna talk about how
Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse hit the public domain kind of. And then
Speaker 1: there's a controversy bruin in the world of socks, socks
Speaker 1: or no socks in bed. I've been told this is
Speaker 1: I don't know I wear socks about I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: come out and say it, and I've been told that
Speaker 1: is unacceptable.
Speaker 5: But I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I knew I like everybody sees to it's wild. I
Speaker 1: just there's like this op edge in the Wall Street
Speaker 1: Journal or something, and the headline was like, if you
Speaker 1: sleep in socks, you're a psychopath. Health tip kicks up controversy,
Speaker 1: and and I was like, wow, that's that's so aggressive, right,
Speaker 1: two people and they were all like, Nope, it is correct.
Speaker 1: It is in fact, scientifically accurate. You need to get
Speaker 1: out of it.
Speaker 5: Well, not when you do it my way. I have
Speaker 5: a very particular sock regiment.
Speaker 3: I want to hear this.
Speaker 1: Oh boy.
Speaker 3: Jumped the socks, jump jump socks.
Speaker 1: All of that plenty more. But first, Kaylyn, we do
Speaker 1: like to ask our guests, what is something from your
Speaker 1: search history that is revealing about who you are?
Speaker 5: I googled Wolf of Wall Street quaylude scene yescause. Yes, yes,
Speaker 5: we know it, We love it. I am editing this
Speaker 5: little promo video to plug the Bechdel Cast tour the
Speaker 5: Jamie Loftus and I are going on in early February.
Speaker 5: So zeitgang, who's also a Bechdel head, grab your tickets.
Speaker 5: But anyway, so I'm like editing this silly little promo
Speaker 5: video and it's mostly a Barbie tour we are mostly
Speaker 5: covering the Barbie movie, but there's one show where we
Speaker 5: were also doing a Wolf of Wall Street thing because.
Speaker 1: Interesting, you know what movie caresaeah.
Speaker 5: I mean that's obviously the cross the thing. But everyone's like,
Speaker 5: why wouldn't you do Oppenheimer? And I'm like, because I
Speaker 5: was asleep during most of those, I don't want it again.
Speaker 5: So we're doing both the Wall Street so I was
Speaker 5: just like, I was just finding little images to include
Speaker 5: in this, and I was like, ooh, that kaylude scenes
Speaker 5: pretty good. Yeah, googled that.
Speaker 1: I couldn't help. But notice that Oppenheimer barely does any
Speaker 1: kuayludes in that movie, even referenced like when he does.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's I can't imagine he did zero kualudes
Speaker 1: during the events of the film.
Speaker 5: Show that on screen? Where's the on screen represent show?
Speaker 1: Don't tell.
Speaker 3: Klu really felt like that's the only substance legal or otherwise.
Speaker 3: That just like completely can you get coludes anymore? You
Speaker 3: can get a lot of shit that is illegal, even
Speaker 3: you can't get ka ludes. Where did you tried them?
Speaker 1: No? I want to? Oh yeah, yeah, I just I
Speaker 1: mean that is the premise of the scene in Wolf
Speaker 1: Wall Street right that they are like they have the five.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're like old, so they don't know how effective
Speaker 5: they're going to be.
Speaker 1: And they keep taking them. They're like, ah, these are busted,
Speaker 1: and then very much the experience that anybody who's taken
Speaker 1: too many edibles has had in recent years. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the idea. I feel like they give a passing
Speaker 1: explanation about where where the kailudes went, but it was
Speaker 1: something like that. I think they were made pharmaceutically at
Speaker 1: one point, and then they may have been legal. But
Speaker 1: it does seem like there's probably you know, as drugs
Speaker 1: has become more high advanced, there should be a market
Speaker 1: there a minimum in artisanal market for come on, you
Speaker 1: want to at least try it.
Speaker 3: Try Yeah, ludes, Hell's Angels are back as a vibe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Hell's Angels mainly use them to
Speaker 1: counterbalance all the speed that they were on enormous amount.
Speaker 1: They're like, well, someone's gonna have to fall asleep eventually.
Speaker 1: Why don't we uh figure out something to counterbalance all
Speaker 1: this trucker speed, that West distributing thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, wait, what is speed? Is speed?
Speaker 1: Coke?
Speaker 5: Are they the same thing? Are they two different.
Speaker 1: No, it's amphetamans.
Speaker 3: Pretty similar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very similar.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like similar, breaking bad, yes, speeds, breaking bad.
Speaker 3: Cocaine is I assume Wolf of All Street?
Speaker 1: Yea yeah they Oh yeah, what is something that you
Speaker 1: think is overrated?
Speaker 5: Okay, so we're getting into horny territory in the next few.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, folks, it's the first week of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to.
Speaker 1: My god.
Speaker 5: I mean, this is a particularly horny. But these are
Speaker 5: about dating. I'm think giving a lot of thoughts. You're saying,
Speaker 5: not when you date Like me, I have a very
Speaker 5: specific sock regiment, and I have a very specific dating regiment,
Speaker 5: and it's all horning.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 5: Overrated is height as a dating criteria. I'm talking specifically
Speaker 5: about men because so if you go, if you're on
Speaker 5: the apps, there is there are a lot of men
Speaker 5: who just put their height as the only thing in
Speaker 5: their profile because they've been conditioned to think that that's
Speaker 5: like the most important thing about them.
Speaker 1: Is how the cells of my body stuck up to
Speaker 1: enough of that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, my personality in its entirety. So it's very frustrating,
Speaker 5: and I know that they're doing this because of like
Speaker 5: a you know, a societal pressure, a beauty standard, blah
Speaker 5: blah blah. But I find it very frustrated, not only
Speaker 5: that that beauty standard has become so prominent, but that
Speaker 5: men are responding to it by being like, well, you
Speaker 5: don't need to know anything about me aside from my height.
Speaker 1: I also feel like somebody who puts that much emphasis
Speaker 1: on their own height is probably more likely to lie
Speaker 1: about their height, right, Like issues going on?
Speaker 3: But is it kind of feels like what you're saying
Speaker 3: though it's it's it is like a self regulating system,
Speaker 3: right because like people who put that actually that is
Speaker 3: the only thing that is interesting about that.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's true. They're kind of perpetuating this psychic.
Speaker 3: So but I don't know, I just feel like, you
Speaker 3: don't you don't want it, and you don't want to
Speaker 3: click on those people and swipe on those folks, and
Speaker 3: you know that it's doing its job both ways. If
Speaker 3: someone only loves height and if someone recognizes that that's idiotic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm bout it unless it's fair their wembing Yama?
Speaker 1: Are they victor wembing Yama? Are they seven foot five?
Speaker 1: And it is like the main thing about them that
Speaker 1: you would have to deal with on a dating basis
Speaker 1: is like this, we can't go most places. I'm way too.
Speaker 5: I won't fit through the doorway.
Speaker 1: Can't sit in a Norse car.
Speaker 5: Yes, that would make sense, but it is it's just
Speaker 5: people who are like I'm five eleven or whatever. I
Speaker 5: that's what problem is.
Speaker 1: You're like, I am the average height and that's all
Speaker 1: you need and that's.
Speaker 5: All you need to know. And Andrew, You're right like this,
Speaker 5: like this should be like a weeding out process, except
Speaker 5: that I would say in like eighty percent of profiles
Speaker 5: and I like, yes, I'm I'm like swiping left on
Speaker 5: like ninety nine point nine percent of people. But like,
Speaker 5: it's just so prevalent for men to have just their
Speaker 5: height or like one of three things they list about
Speaker 5: them themselves is their height, and I think it's stinks.
Speaker 1: Will not stand for it, yeah, won't. That's terrible that
Speaker 1: people do this. Do they hold a coin next to
Speaker 1: them for like.
Speaker 5: The yeah, yeah, yeah, they have just a tiny little
Speaker 5: quarter and they're like, I'm so much taller than this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which then does open up a market for fake
Speaker 3: not to scale, like measuring tape in your yardsticks or whatever,
Speaker 3: that you hold up next to yourself or your dating profile. Yes,
Speaker 3: oh man, yeah, we're tollerated.
Speaker 5: Let's get on this. That's right, Yeah, all right, this
Speaker 5: is an enterprise if I've ever heard justin.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to cut out the next thirty minutes
Speaker 1: while we scheme this doesness plan and we're back and
Speaker 1: we're about to be rich as fun. Wow. What is
Speaker 1: something you think is underrated? Caitlin?
Speaker 5: Okay, So what I think is under is being solo Polly.
Speaker 5: So if anyone's not familiar, it's a type of polyamory
Speaker 5: or ethical non monogamy where you're just kinda single, your
Speaker 5: main relationship is with yourself, but you also have so
Speaker 5: many lovers. Great, it's the best of all the worlds.
Speaker 5: And it's something I've been exploring in recent years and
Speaker 5: I've never been happier.
Speaker 1: I would say, definitely sounds like the best one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think sounds like a lot of fun. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: thought you were saying solo Pollie like that. That was
Speaker 1: like negative nelly, solo.
Speaker 5: Polly, Oh, not solo poly pocket Okay, yeah, solo polyamory. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they would they sound like they might be contradictory because
Speaker 5: it's like, how can you have many lovers? But also, yeah,
Speaker 5: be solo, but we make it work.
Speaker 1: And when you become solo, Polly, does that give you
Speaker 1: the magical power that you now possess to use lover
Speaker 1: in a way that doesn't make me cringe because you're yeah,
Speaker 1: you can, you can do it.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: There's I've met like a handful of people who can
Speaker 1: be like I've taken a lover, and I'm just like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's how you talk, and that is how you
Speaker 1: should talk.
Speaker 5: There's a great line to that effect in the movie
Speaker 5: American Fiction, which I will also sing the praises of
Speaker 5: later on as a piece of media I've been enjoying.
Speaker 5: But there's a great line where Jeffrey Wright's character is like, Oh,
Speaker 5: I'm so grossed out by the fact that you've just
Speaker 5: told me you've taken a lover. But when you're solo
Speaker 5: poly you get to say it and you can't say it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I also like to say that I have a harem
Speaker 5: of himbos.
Speaker 1: There you go, that's.
Speaker 5: Pretty accurate to my life.
Speaker 1: Uh do they know their him both room?
Speaker 5: I don't think they know that I call them that. Okay,
Speaker 5: I think that.
Speaker 3: They think it's just their little secret and they always Yeah,
Speaker 3: I will say the over underratedness of this. This feels
Speaker 3: like a solo poly is a thing where the rating
Speaker 3: system depends on your original perspective so highly. Because I
Speaker 3: can't help but notice that Jack was like that sounds great,
Speaker 3: it's pretty good, right. I was like, yeah, I think
Speaker 3: Jack's rating it's not underrated for him because it comes
Speaker 3: quite highly rad I.
Speaker 5: Guess I put it in the underrated class. I almost
Speaker 5: said classicory.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing now, that's category. As a solo
Speaker 1: you speak with such confidence that classicgory is now a thing.
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you so classification slash category slash class agory.
Speaker 5: I put it there because I mean, most people you know,
Speaker 5: follow like a pretty traditional like you know, just monogamy.
Speaker 5: I have one partner, I have one person. That's what
Speaker 5: they're seeking, that's what they have, you know whatever. But
Speaker 5: I've been sort of just examining that as a structure
Speaker 5: as an expectation in society and I was like, you
Speaker 5: know what, I don't think that is for me. And
Speaker 5: just like i mean, relationship anarchy in general is something
Speaker 5: I've been exploring, and I'm just like, yeah, this this
Speaker 5: is cool. This is not enough people know about it
Speaker 5: or are doing it. Yeah, and obviously like a very
Speaker 5: important thing about it is to like be very up.
Speaker 1: So I was going to say, there are plenty of
Speaker 1: fuck boys in the world who are like, this is
Speaker 1: actually secretly what I do, but no one needs to
Speaker 1: know about it. I love everyone deeply and we are soulmates. Amazing,
Speaker 1: This just in classicory has been shortlisted for the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four Word of the Year Mirriam Webster Dictionary.
Speaker 5: So oh I didn't even make it up.
Speaker 1: No, you did, And that's how quick they became.
Speaker 3: You did.
Speaker 1: Just now shortlisted. Awesome, amazing. Well, we are going to
Speaker 1: take a quick break and then we're gonna come back
Speaker 1: and talk about drums of Mickey Mouse doing nine to eleven.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back and we're back, And yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know they're like that. I feel like I
Speaker 1: feel like I've seen seen all the ones like that.
Speaker 1: You know, it's so basically SB Dubs, as we've all
Speaker 1: started calling the steamboat will be who is the stakable
Speaker 1: ancestor of Mickey Mouse and descendant of minstrel cartoons. But
Speaker 1: that's for another time. But you can look at the similarities.
Speaker 1: There's a lot. But yeah, Steamboat Willie has hit the
Speaker 1: big public domain in the sky fring the internet to
Speaker 1: do its best slash worst and you know, doing nine
Speaker 1: to eleven and being covered and come where Like that
Speaker 1: was like, I bet that's what the Internet's gonna do,
Speaker 1: and they did that. There's also somewhere where he has
Speaker 1: his dick out, also to be expected, but I don't
Speaker 1: know that. Like, so, first of all, this is like
Speaker 1: people will be quick to point out, Steamboat Willie has
Speaker 1: some differences from modern Mickey. They redesigned Mickey Mouse for
Speaker 1: nineteen forty Sorcerer's Apprentice, So we're gonna have to wait
Speaker 1: another I was gonna say like twenty years, but no,
Speaker 1: that's actually less than that, like fucking ten years for
Speaker 1: actual like modern Mickey Mouse to be covered and come.
Speaker 5: But I mean, will the world make it that long?
Speaker 1: We'll see, that is the question.
Speaker 3: Well, to be to be covered and calm, not as parody, right.
Speaker 1: Exactly, yes, exactly, yeah. I mean people were already free
Speaker 1: to do this. It's just a celebration of like, no,
Speaker 1: it's legal. Yeah, So if you want to know the
Speaker 1: difference between Steamboat Willy and Mickey Mouse. Mickey Mouse has
Speaker 1: like big big eyes with like black pupils, you know,
Speaker 1: like the standard Disney like big eyed like kind of
Speaker 1: thing that's based on babies. Like they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: babies have big eyes, and that appeals to something inherent
Speaker 1: in humans, like we are genetically designed to not want
Speaker 1: to kill babies, and so like we like we like
Speaker 1: them with the big eyes, whereas Steamboat Willie to quote
Speaker 1: quote speech and Jaws has got lifeless eyes guys like
Speaker 1: Adull's eyes. It's true when he comes at you, he
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be living until he bites you, and
Speaker 1: those black guys roll over white. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't think I've said this story here, and maybe
Speaker 3: I've never said it at all. But the maddest that
Speaker 3: I forgot when I was writing on Robot Chicken is
Speaker 3: I pitched a sketch that made it pretty far that
Speaker 3: was about Funko pops where every time you turned back
Speaker 3: it was like a haunted house kind of deal, and
Speaker 3: every time they turned back to the funk Coo pop,
Speaker 3: its eyes would be that like beady black eye would
Speaker 3: be ten percent bigger until it swallowed the screen, and
Speaker 3: they did.
Speaker 1: They didn't let me do the sketch, and I'm so
Speaker 1: mad about it still, Oh may this taste? But yeah,
Speaker 1: so this is the first big character to hit the
Speaker 1: public domain in a while, which I hadn't realized. But
Speaker 1: Sonny Bono apparently Sonny Bono or Bono Bono, right, I've
Speaker 1: just been Oh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because Bono is the YouTube guy. Bono is the sunny.
Speaker 1: Guy, as the famous rhyme says.
Speaker 3: From the Beavis and butt Head version of I Got
Speaker 3: You Babe with Share.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's kind of the main thing he's known for,
Speaker 1: other than dying in a ski accident. But he also
Speaker 1: was so he was like TV guy and then became
Speaker 1: politician guy. And in nineteen ninety nine he's passed a
Speaker 1: loss suspending things from hitting the public domain for twenty
Speaker 1: years for reasons having to do with corporations and rich
Speaker 1: people enjoying money. Whatever. The justification at the time was
Speaker 1: that seems to be that they were lobbied by Disney
Speaker 1: and like George Gershwin's estate, and there's just everyone was
Speaker 1: basically like politics in the nineties really got away with
Speaker 1: a ton of shit because like they just had the world,
Speaker 1: or at least like the mainstream media convinced that anywhere
Speaker 1: where anyone making money was good for the country because
Speaker 1: quote the economy, Like, why not keep it private so
Speaker 1: people can continue to make money for Disney and the
Speaker 1: wealthy who can invest it back into Wall Street and
Speaker 1: Wall Street is scoreboard for economy. Okay, so they are wrong.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thankfully that's all changed.
Speaker 5: Now, so it's no different. Yeah, it's we just have social.
Speaker 1: Media to point it out. It's not true. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So wait, they were trying, they were lobbying to make
Speaker 5: it so to like delay things going into into the
Speaker 5: public by twenty years so it could stay private so
Speaker 5: they could keep profiting. Yeah okay o neat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing that is like so funny. It
Speaker 3: is like to imagine them being like, you know, for
Speaker 3: for some kind of vague moral or economic reason, this
Speaker 3: must happen, and then just the finding the line of
Speaker 3: twenty years, like if this is important, why not forever?
Speaker 4: Like or what?
Speaker 3: Just like somehow they were like twenty twenty is good,
Speaker 3: twenty's good. We'll be rich enough that.
Speaker 1: Will never come. Yeah, well we'll just be incredibly rich
Speaker 1: by that time. So there have been NFTs because people
Speaker 1: are still falling for that apparently Mickey Mouse cryptocurrencies, those
Speaker 1: are somehow different. A glut of AI generated images featuring
Speaker 1: the old Mickey doing drugs or slathered and seemen previously mentioned. Yeah,
Speaker 1: couayludes might be interesting. I'm sure that the kids don't
Speaker 1: know though, you know, yeah.
Speaker 3: Kids copyright. I wonder if the copyright on the name,
Speaker 3: on the presumably brand name Quailude is probably still in
Speaker 3: a fact, whereas Mickey you'll get you get sued by
Speaker 3: like Pfizer or whatever, still holds that pat was Quaylude.
Speaker 1: The name brand or street name for that drug. I'm curious, like,
Speaker 1: was that the Kleenex?
Speaker 5: Maybe look at us right, there's no spell very strangely,
Speaker 5: which makes.
Speaker 1: Me think that it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not the chemical name, and it's not like
Speaker 3: some ship that you just come up with.
Speaker 5: So the chemical name is mesquey loan.
Speaker 1: Okay, pretty close.
Speaker 5: It's a hypnotic sedative. I didn't for some reason, I
Speaker 5: thought it was an upper okay, Oh no, no, must
Speaker 5: be the the brand name, I guess.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the aspirin.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's yeah, there's it's I love this. Back ludes,
Speaker 1: Bring back ludes is our message in four but I
Speaker 1: mean it's understanding, like there's sort of a strise and
Speaker 1: effect happening here where people are going particularly hard on
Speaker 1: Steamboat Willie because Disney has like famously been fighting this
Speaker 1: moment for decades, like they called the Sonny Bono thing,
Speaker 1: I think the Mickey Mouse Saver or some some shit
Speaker 1: like the Mickey Mouse Law or.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so like people if the Disney Corporation is in
Speaker 3: danger of not making his money as much money as
Speaker 3: they wanted, put out a Mickey alert and it all
Speaker 3: goes to our phones and we all like have to
Speaker 3: protect the copyright of Mickey Mouse's.
Speaker 1: The Mickey Mouse Protection Act is what was called. So predictably,
Speaker 1: just hours after Mickey entered the public domain, we got
Speaker 1: a trailer for a horror movie in which a guy
Speaker 1: in a Mickey Mouse mask is like a knife wielding
Speaker 1: serial killer.
Speaker 5: And didn't they just do this with Winnie the Pooh also.
Speaker 1: And also the mask looks like shit, like the Winning
Speaker 1: the Pooh won like for some reason, they just they're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're allowed to use it, but you have to like
Speaker 1: make it out of a paper bag in like fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: Looks like total shit. Yeah, it's also set in a
Speaker 1: Chuck E cheese Asque restaurant because of the success of
Speaker 1: Five Knife Freddy.
Speaker 5: Okay, so it's yeah, five Knife Freddy. Is that is
Speaker 5: that you doing a joke?
Speaker 1: Is that? Yeah? That's what we called it. I think
Speaker 1: it's actually when you're your co host on the Bechdel Cast,
Speaker 1: Jamie Loftus was on.
Speaker 5: We were Now, I just outed myself as someone who
Speaker 5: didn't listen to.
Speaker 1: That didn't listen to your own I listened to everything
Speaker 1: Miles has ever been on, including phone calls that he
Speaker 1: doesn't know I'm listening.
Speaker 3: You have like a secret baby monitor in his house.
Speaker 1: I do just for you, that's right, and sometimes a
Speaker 1: whisper things while he's asleep, just you know, incept ideas.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's five Nights at Freddy's. I'm sorry, Caitlin.
Speaker 5: I just wanted to make sure that it wasn't like
Speaker 5: a classic gory google.
Speaker 1: Right right, could could easily be. Yeah, but so just
Speaker 1: the least original original film ever proposed.
Speaker 3: The thing that bums me out about these is like
Speaker 3: like they had it ready to go. It's like so uncreative.
Speaker 3: I just wish some some just like like this. The
Speaker 3: creativity is like shockingly low for this, for this whole
Speaker 3: like all of it, the whole classicgory of these makey makey. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's really it just bums me out. I don't know,
Speaker 3: I just I just want something funnier, I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I think funny would be too close to
Speaker 1: so like none of this is really legal, like you,
Speaker 1: Disney could like sue any one of these that they
Speaker 1: wanted to out of existence. It's just a gamble like
Speaker 1: whether that draws attention to it or not.
Speaker 3: You know, that was a thing that I learned when
Speaker 3: I worked at Comedy Central many years ago, that like,
Speaker 3: I mean, it was outside of it, but it was
Speaker 3: maybe this is a private conversation with not socil repeating,
Speaker 3: but doesn't.
Speaker 1: Matter that much.
Speaker 3: But like you know, I was told that often because
Speaker 3: you like kind of have the impression like, oh, you
Speaker 3: can't use Coca Cola in your things, so you've got
Speaker 3: to use this thing because of copyright or whatever. And
Speaker 3: it's rarely that, Like it's usually just that like the
Speaker 3: business affairs and ad salespeople would like to get Coca
Speaker 3: Cola as a sponsor pay them. Yeah yeah, so like
Speaker 3: you know, we are a free but it has nothing
Speaker 3: to do with the like base legality of like can
Speaker 3: you use it?
Speaker 1: And it's such a like detraction from the quality of movies.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you've told us that before, but
Speaker 1: it's like so interesting to me because it's such a
Speaker 1: like if you could just like it takes you out
Speaker 1: of the movie so much to have people drinking from
Speaker 1: a can that is like, yeah, says soda.
Speaker 3: On it Crackle Cola, Yeah, exactly to me. The example
Speaker 3: I was given, I don't remember who said this, but
Speaker 3: like you just can't like defame the product, like you
Speaker 3: can't have someone drink a coke drop dead from a
Speaker 3: heart attack and then all the characters say that's what
Speaker 3: always happens when you drink.
Speaker 5: So as long as you're not like slandering the brand, yeah, right,
Speaker 5: Like quaylude for example.
Speaker 1: Right, which we've always said on the show, is very
Speaker 1: good for you. It's like taking your vitamins in the
Speaker 1: nineteen seventies.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: I wonder if just so you can't you can't misrepresent,
Speaker 3: you can't have kayludes and just be like these get
Speaker 3: me high with no consequence.
Speaker 1: Like I just did. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, I was an extra on a movie set one time,
Speaker 5: huge Brag. It was a movie that never got a
Speaker 5: theatrical release, but Emma Roberts was in it, and it
Speaker 5: was about a high school basketball team. And I was
Speaker 5: in this like cafeteria scene where there were vending machines
Speaker 5: in the shot, but originally the vending machines I think
Speaker 5: were Pepsi. And then they brought the like production brought
Speaker 5: in basically like huge stickers that said Coca Cola on
Speaker 5: them to place them over we'll goo to make it
Speaker 5: seem like yees a Coca Cola machine.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 5: I don't know exactly why they did that, if that
Speaker 5: was some sort of like agreement with Cola or I
Speaker 5: don't or if they were like we want money from
Speaker 5: Coca Cola but not Pepsi.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't know enough about it, but I just found
Speaker 5: that fascinating that it was like, oh, you like specifically
Speaker 5: brought in stickers to like make to change what this
Speaker 5: product would be.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The director is just like, no, these people have cocina.
Speaker 1: They would never No, it's not this is real.
Speaker 3: This is taking me out. Pepsi. Roberts fuck out.
Speaker 5: Of does not track.
Speaker 1: Emma Roberts does not exist in a universe. Alongside PEPSI
Speaker 1: like that. That doesn't It's like, you can't put Michael
Speaker 1: Douglas in a movie set in the past. You can't
Speaker 1: put Emma Roberts in a movie in which there's right,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make.
Speaker 3: Even if he was in like if Michael Douglas was
Speaker 3: in a period piece, you'd still need to add minimum
Speaker 3: put like a BlackBerry in his hand.
Speaker 1: He doesn't love Yeah, that was in a period No.
Speaker 1: That So William Goldman, the screenwriter has he wrote Princess Bride,
Speaker 1: and he has like what one of his books on screenwriting,
Speaker 1: I forget which one it is. He talks about how
Speaker 1: his theory for why Ghost in the Darkness I think
Speaker 1: is the movie it's like Jaws, but a lion in
Speaker 1: Africa that is like killing everybody. And then there's like
Speaker 1: it's the eighteen hundreds, I think, and they're like the
Speaker 1: Quint character is this like stoic lion hunter played by
Speaker 1: Michael Douglas, And everyone heading into the movie movie's release
Speaker 1: was like this is a sure thing, like we have
Speaker 1: the next Jaws. And then it like tanked. And his
Speaker 1: theory for why it tanked is that Michael Douglas just
Speaker 1: cannot exist in like a movie that takes outside of
Speaker 1: like After the Earth before the nineteen eighties, Like he
Speaker 1: just like needs to be a horny businessman like that.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 3: Like it's kind of unsettling to even just imagine Michael
Speaker 3: Douglas in the same room as an animal or in
Speaker 3: the same like right, so like like anything that isn't like, yeah.
Speaker 1: He tried it and fatal attraction. Look what happened to
Speaker 1: that happened to that rabbit? Jesus Anyways, like that, multiple
Speaker 1: movies actually hit on the same like multiple trailers dropped
Speaker 1: or I guess this one didn't have a full trailer.
Speaker 1: But there's like a Whore an animated horror movie where
Speaker 1: Mickey Man else will torment a group of unsuspecting ferry passengers.
Speaker 1: So they're like steamboat Will, what's the first thing we
Speaker 1: all think about with making house that he was on
Speaker 1: that dang steamboat a long time ago. Well, what this
Speaker 1: movie presupposes is he's still on that steamboat and he's angry.
Speaker 1: But like so that winning the Pooh movie exactly, Like
Speaker 1: does he do it in like weird like animation, like
Speaker 1: like giving looks to the camera, like whistling out of
Speaker 1: the side of his mouth as.
Speaker 3: He's like kind of lightple up double knee bounce per step, right,
Speaker 3: and that's just how I walk canonically, I walk into
Speaker 3: double knee bounce everywhere I go.
Speaker 1: But that shitty Winning the Pooh movie, Caitlyn, you referenced,
Speaker 1: that is the first in the class. This classic word
Speaker 1: movie was made for one hundred thousand dollars. Like evidently
Speaker 1: like every one of the dollars not spent over that
Speaker 1: is on screen, Like you're like, yeah, no, that's just
Speaker 1: a dude in a mask that like you didn't even
Speaker 1: bother to get the best mask for this job.
Speaker 3: Whoa.
Speaker 1: And that movie made five point two million dollars because
Speaker 1: people were just like mad at it, and so it
Speaker 1: got passed around and like the director of one of
Speaker 1: these slasher Mickey Mouse slasher movies, this is the direct quote.
Speaker 1: We actually love the negative feedback because you know, it
Speaker 1: just draws more interest. There seems to be, you know,
Speaker 1: a market for people that want to hate this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. And it doesn't matter just if you watch
Speaker 1: the movie, if you pay to watch the movie, then yeah,
Speaker 1: that's all we want, said the director. I mean work
Speaker 1: of art. Well, give a fuck what do you Why
Speaker 1: are you talking to me? None of this matters, just
Speaker 1: so out, so nihilistic. There is like a thing that
Speaker 1: I've been noticing just as a trend across media where
Speaker 1: we no longer distinguish between Like people were talking about
Speaker 1: how viral one of those Israeli comedy sketches went, you
Speaker 1: know the ones that like I guess Brent Gelman was
Speaker 1: in one of them and Michael Rappoport, but they're just
Speaker 1: like super offensive, like yeah, and people were like it's
Speaker 1: gone viral. These things are like it's like no, people,
Speaker 1: people aren't like laughing and passing it around. Everyone's like
Speaker 1: horrified at this. But there there just does seem to
Speaker 1: be a way that we're just like flattening it out.
Speaker 1: And it's just like all attention is not only does
Speaker 1: it like work, but it's just evaluated the same is
Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, that's that's a success, shamelessly mask off.
Speaker 1: We don't give a fuck unless it's a shitty Mickey
Speaker 1: Mouse mask.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it isn't.
Speaker 1: It isn't.
Speaker 6: It's like you know, the like, oh, I like the
Speaker 6: negative press actually likes like that's like that is like
Speaker 6: the fifth emotion you have after like you.
Speaker 3: Know, I know it's aw budget, it's kind of goofy,
Speaker 3: but like maybe this is gonna be good and like no, okay,
Speaker 3: but like call you know, I'm just saying like that.
Speaker 3: That is also a type of just hope. Yeah, I guess,
Speaker 3: like it's not untrue, but it's also like, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm positive this person's dream wasn't to cynically snatch. I mean,
Speaker 3: admittedly a decent amount of money, but not a good
Speaker 3: Hollywood you know, favorite Hollywood director amount of money from
Speaker 3: this enterprise. So yeah, they're still disappointed. The way I
Speaker 3: read it was like he's like, yeah, man, it's great,
Speaker 3: but it could be. He said this was like a glassy,
Speaker 3: far off gaze in his eyes, you know, just like
Speaker 3: feeling his all of his life's dreams dry up. Yeah
Speaker 3: it's still dark.
Speaker 1: Let me feel better.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's still money. I guess we do enjoy money,
Speaker 3: I suppose.
Speaker 5: But it is the thing of like when people are like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I made it bad on purpose, then that I was
Speaker 5: and that was intentional and it's part of the commentary,
Speaker 5: and it's like, no, you didn't. You tried your hardest
Speaker 5: and it was bad, and that's okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay.
Speaker 4: You're bad.
Speaker 5: It's okay to be bad.
Speaker 1: There's there's so many people in the world. You're one
Speaker 1: of the bad ones. It's okay.
Speaker 3: At least you have money. A lot of people are
Speaker 3: bad and don't get money.
Speaker 1: At least you can do the job that your boss
Speaker 1: has asked you to do. That's pretty good. That counts
Speaker 1: for something, Buddy, You're gonna stay. Disney can still like
Speaker 1: totally prevent people from using their early version of Mickey
Speaker 1: Mouse on consumer products, like the way that people use logos.
Speaker 1: It's like that it the closer you look at this,
Speaker 1: the harder it is to distinguish like what actually changed,
Speaker 1: because Disney could still sue you out of existence. I
Speaker 1: think the thing that changed is that, like a horror movie,
Speaker 1: there's no way that anyone would confuse that with being
Speaker 1: something that Disney was putting out. And so this is
Speaker 1: like the same. Legally, this is even though it on
Speaker 1: its surface seems like the most subversive thing to do,
Speaker 1: it's actually legally the safest thing to do because it's
Speaker 1: the most evidently like satirical.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the thing is it's like all all
Speaker 3: this ever has done this shit is like slightly changed
Speaker 3: the risk calculus for litigation, you know, with a slight
Speaker 3: change in one portion of the copyright law, but you
Speaker 3: know other shit is blah blah blah, Like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: it makes it slightly more of a pain in the
Speaker 3: ass for them, Like it gives your lawyers one more
Speaker 3: paper they can file that then gets swatted down by
Speaker 3: the Disney lawyers.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that does cost Disney money. That costs a
Speaker 3: billable hours.
Speaker 1: But like we'll get shit. Yeah, they don't. They don't
Speaker 1: give a fuck. They will spend you into the ground.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of the most famous examples of Disney threatening legal
Speaker 1: action over the use of Mickey Mouse wasn't for a
Speaker 1: scathing parody, and in fact there is like there was
Speaker 1: a short film in which Mickey Mouse is sent to
Speaker 1: the Vietnam War and shot and killed immediately after getting
Speaker 1: off the transport. And they did not sue that they
Speaker 1: were because they were like, oh, that that would just
Speaker 1: draw attention to this. So that came out in nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty eight and they were just like, yeah, go knock
Speaker 1: yourself out. But they did sue three daycares that had
Speaker 1: unlacensed Disney murals. Yeah, so it's just like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Because that could be seen as like Disneyland, Yes, Jake Cars,
Speaker 3: Disney branded.
Speaker 1: That's our end game, you guys. We will take all
Speaker 1: of your children into an underground bunker with our characters
Speaker 1: painted all over it. That's not for you to use.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and then we're
Speaker 1: gonna come back and talk about the controversy that everybody's
Speaker 1: waiting to hear about whether you wear socks in bed.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back, and we're back, and yeah, as
Speaker 1: I mentioned, there's a Wall Street Journal article, if you
Speaker 1: sleep in socks, You're a psychopath. Health tip kicks up
Speaker 1: controversy if you sleep in socks, You're a psychopaths and quotes,
Speaker 1: so it's quoting one of the sources from this article,
Speaker 1: but it's this is like one of those articles that
Speaker 1: mainstream hastitutions do sometimes where they you can tell like
Speaker 1: they are having fun or they're trying to communicate the
Speaker 1: idea that they're having fun, and there's like it's full
Speaker 1: of just shitty puns. So brought it to my attention.
Speaker 1: I started like googling around, like am I weird for
Speaker 1: wearing socks in bed? And yes, very fucking weird. People
Speaker 1: are not. Like, there's a Reddit thread that is all
Speaker 1: about this, and you know it's full of like aggressive
Speaker 1: opinions on both sides. But like, the percentage of people
Speaker 1: who responded and said they wear socks is like between
Speaker 1: five and twenty percent of people wear socks and bed.
Speaker 1: Everybody else is like what Like when I ask people there,
Speaker 1: horrified at the idea that somebody would wear socks and bed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Sleep specialists they think it's a good
Speaker 1: idea because they apparently, if you keep your feet warm,
Speaker 1: then your body has to work less hard at like
Speaker 1: warming them up, and so it actually keeps your body
Speaker 1: temperature lower to have socks on your feet somehow.
Speaker 3: Okay, because the whole rest of your body.
Speaker 1: Is like working to keep your feet from freezing off something. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: seems like bullshit. But I don't know why, especially with
Speaker 1: this being such a wildly unpopular take. I don't know
Speaker 1: why sleep experts would be bring this up other than
Speaker 1: it's the heat marketing that we talked about before.
Speaker 5: Right, All right, well I'm ready to disclose my habits.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, can we get a little drunk.
Speaker 3: I want to hear here, like like the little drum
Speaker 3: they use.
Speaker 1: The little tipoty thing they used before, like they reveal
Speaker 1: in deal or No Deal, what's inside the briefcase?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, okay, put that sound effect in and okay,
Speaker 5: this is not this is the diaclimactic. I will wear
Speaker 5: socks to bed in the winter when it's cold, and
Speaker 5: I want to say form.
Speaker 1: But oh my god, the crowd are losing their fucking
Speaker 1: ten large that that was gonna be your answer.
Speaker 5: But they are socks that are like my specific bed socks.
Speaker 5: I will not wear them around the rest of my apartment.
Speaker 5: I would never like put them in shoes and go
Speaker 5: out and then like also then wear those into bed.
Speaker 5: Anyone who like goes about their days in their dirty
Speaker 5: socks and then and then wears those same socks to bed.
Speaker 5: I do believe that those are I do believe, Well.
Speaker 1: You just turned into a Southern Belt leghorn, now, you see.
Speaker 1: I do believe that those people are. Well. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: one of the articles that I found was debunk or like,
Speaker 1: you know, dismissive of sock wearing in bed based on
Speaker 1: the idea that like we're just coming from the gym
Speaker 1: in sweaty socks and like shopping in to bed, It's like, no,
Speaker 1: what the fuck? Like we don't have one pair of socks?
Speaker 1: Like the point is that they're like dry, clean night
Speaker 1: socks that you put on after you take a shower.
Speaker 3: Yes, here's my my question for both of you freaks, though,
Speaker 3: did you is this behavior that was like acquired or
Speaker 3: did you never? Have you ever? I mean I'm sure
Speaker 3: you've ever, but did you ever like on a regular
Speaker 3: basis sleep without socks and make make a decision to
Speaker 3: be like I'm a socksman. Socks that was both inappropriated
Speaker 3: and just float off my dog? But you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, like has it always been socks?
Speaker 1: You know? More or less? So? Okay, I actually there is.
Speaker 1: So the thing that's interesting to me about this is
Speaker 1: that there really seems to be a broad, like propagandistic
Speaker 1: push against wearing socks in bed, Like I want my
Speaker 1: mom told me like growing up about the scariest nightmare
Speaker 1: she ever had and blamed it on wearing socks to bed. Well,
Speaker 1: she was like I and I think it was because
Speaker 1: I wore socks to bed and that's and she was
Speaker 1: trying to scare you out of that I guess like
Speaker 1: it's but it's just like the Reddit thread like has
Speaker 1: somebody like that people are like I physically recoil at
Speaker 1: the thought of wearing socks while asleep. I think sleeping
Speaker 1: with socks on feels grotesque asleep with socks when I'm
Speaker 1: too drunk to take them off, and honestly, waking up
Speaker 1: with socks on is worse than the hangover. But that
Speaker 1: person is going to bed with dirty socks on. And
Speaker 1: then somebody else wrote one percent of socks sleepers are
Speaker 1: serial killers. True stat that I did not just make
Speaker 1: up on the spot, and Andrew, you agree that is true?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought I I will just say I have
Speaker 3: never thought about it. I just reflexively like, don't like
Speaker 3: like having socks on when I sleep?
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 5: I have a few counterpoints.
Speaker 1: Yeah, One is you do that.
Speaker 5: Okay, Yes, socks can be gross and can become gross,
Speaker 5: but also so our feet. And if I was like
Speaker 5: in bed with someone who had gross feet and they
Speaker 5: were like rubbing up against me and like they hadn't
Speaker 5: clipped their toenails and like recently, that to me would
Speaker 5: be grosser than wearing socks to bed. Second counterpoint, I
Speaker 5: run very cold. I am always chilly, and I if
Speaker 5: I and like I'm also I have like pretty bad insomnia,
Speaker 5: and so conditions need to be like absolutely perfect for
Speaker 5: me to sleep. It has to be you know, not
Speaker 5: too noisy. The bed has to be comfortable. My anxiety
Speaker 5: needs to be at a manageable level. I need to
Speaker 5: be the right temperature. And usually my feet are too
Speaker 5: cold without socks, especially you know, in the colder months,
Speaker 5: So I like will lay awake all night long if
Speaker 5: I IF I if my feet are too cold because
Speaker 5: I'm not wearing socks.
Speaker 1: So feet and fingers are the only parts of it.
Speaker 1: Yeahld everything else about me runs super hot. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that that is the case. Yeah, I should, I should
Speaker 1: mention it. I also am completely new to other than
Speaker 1: the socks when I just yeah, just three socks on.
Speaker 5: Okay. That reminded me of that Flight of the Concord
Speaker 5: song business socks, which reminds me of I think a
Speaker 5: more a more relevant conversation here is if you wear
Speaker 5: socks during sex. Yeah, that is psychopathic behavior.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because then you also have the garters on because
Speaker 1: you don't want your socks to fall down. So yeah,
Speaker 1: furious sock garters on around your knees. Steamboat Willie's back,
Speaker 1: steamboat Willie fucks with sock carters on. It's out and
Speaker 1: his socks are his socks are up. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I also like sleep on my face, So I feel
Speaker 1: like maybe I think I have like reverse claustrophobia, like
Speaker 1: I need to like because I think a lot of
Speaker 1: what peoples need to be I need to be like smart. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like that. I think what a lot of people are
Speaker 1: responding to when I read their negative responses, like to
Speaker 1: get the ship off.
Speaker 3: Of me, like I don't want to something like you know,
Speaker 3: I think that's actually as we're talking, I think in
Speaker 3: a vacuum, like I will take the socks off in
Speaker 3: my sleep, like if they're on, like if in the
Speaker 3: event that I have, for instance, like falling asleep, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe sooner than I anticipated for whatever, you know, chemic
Speaker 3: induced reason.
Speaker 5: We're on so many ludes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll wind up off, They'll wind up sometimes across
Speaker 3: the room, so the body doesn't want them on. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's not my choice.
Speaker 5: Really, that's like it's like a body rejecting like a
Speaker 5: kidney transplant.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, I mean, like if your unconscious body
Speaker 1: is just like being like, get these, get the coffee. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there's nothing I could really do about it.
Speaker 1: Nature has spoken in that case.
Speaker 3: But yeah, whereas your unconscious body isn't it certainly isn't
Speaker 3: going to be like okay.
Speaker 5: Putting socks on. If I fall asleep without socks, I
Speaker 5: will wake up them on.
Speaker 1: So many socks on. I have three pairs of socks on. Well, Caitlin,
Speaker 1: such a pleasure having you on the Daily Geist. What
Speaker 1: a joy? Where can people find you? Follow you all
Speaker 1: that good stuff?
Speaker 5: You can find and follow me mostly on Instagram at
Speaker 5: Caitlin Durante. You can also go to my website Kaitlyn
Speaker 5: Durante dot com for I don't know information I don't
Speaker 5: know if I'm teaching screenwriting classes, I list them there
Speaker 5: and like put the registration links. And the Bechdel Cast
Speaker 5: is going on tour, like I mentioned, So if you
Speaker 5: live in San Francisco, Sacramento, San Diego, Austin, or Dallas,
Speaker 5: we are coming to those cities in early February, So
Speaker 5: you can go to link tree slash Bechdel Cast for
Speaker 5: all the tickets to the show's there. So come and
Speaker 5: say hi to Jamie and I and we'd love to
Speaker 5: see you there.
Speaker 1: There you go. Is there a work of media that
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying.
Speaker 5: Yes, I also alluded to this already. But the movie
Speaker 5: American Fiction that came out pretty recently, I very very
Speaker 5: much enjoyed. I think it's super smart and funny and
Speaker 5: I laughed a lot, and I highly recommend it.
Speaker 1: I have not seen it. My movie watch over the Break.
Speaker 1: My family likes to go to a and this is
Speaker 1: crazy World a little weird, like to go see a
Speaker 1: movie on Christmas and what the fuck the guy who
Speaker 1: was so excited about Kaitlin's answer, Oh, whether sucks? They
Speaker 1: were all show Yeah, sawt Ferrari And the degree to
Speaker 1: which that movie, like apparently before seat belts, when there
Speaker 1: was a car accident, people were spring loaded in their
Speaker 1: car to just like like if you ever dropped a
Speaker 1: pair of AirPods at like a air pod case and
Speaker 1: they just like shoot out all like that. That's apparently
Speaker 1: what used to happen to people in car accidents. I
Speaker 1: will say, damn, no more, but pretty wild.
Speaker 5: I haven't seen that movie yet, but I find it
Speaker 5: fascinating that it is that it came out only a
Speaker 5: few years after Ford versus Ferrari, So like, why all
Speaker 5: these Ferrari movies all of a sudden and it starts, yeah,
Speaker 5: there it is, and that if I'm not mistaken, Adam
Speaker 5: Driver is playing I'm not sure, but he's doing like
Speaker 5: an Italian accent.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: It wasn't the whole thing with that Lady Gaga movie
Speaker 5: right Gucci Gucci, where Adam Driver was also doing an
Speaker 5: Italian accent that everyone was like, why is this a thing?
Speaker 5: Everyone's really doing a bad job.
Speaker 3: His Jared let really took a lot of this.
Speaker 1: Okay, I see, I see full Mario like just it's
Speaker 1: me was in that one. This one's definitely like not
Speaker 1: not as silly as that one, but you do come
Speaker 1: away being like this is the this is such a
Speaker 1: strange form of type casting that he has thrust himself into,
Speaker 1: of like being a Italian historical figure who was having
Speaker 1: marital problems and is the namesake of a still famous
Speaker 1: brand and who like kind of has an Italian accent
Speaker 1: but not really. But it's like both of the Like
Speaker 1: the Ferrari movie, I thought he was going to be
Speaker 1: like a race car driver, you know, like the name,
Speaker 1: like his name promises, but he's just like the a CEO.
Speaker 1: Like it's like very much like a business guy. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's just a business guy like trying to deal with
Speaker 1: an affair and like, and it's still cool. I don't
Speaker 1: hate it. Michael Mann. The car races. The car races
Speaker 1: parts are fun. The car races parts are fun.
Speaker 3: Is it is it still it's set in like the seventies?
Speaker 3: Is this still shot on like the grainiest digital video
Speaker 3: camera you've ever seen?
Speaker 1: No, it's set in the I would say the forties
Speaker 1: or fifties. Okay, yeah, and it's it's shot like a
Speaker 1: you know, just clear like you like, it's clear, you
Speaker 1: can you can see there's nothing on the camera.
Speaker 3: I like his movies that are like shot on that
Speaker 3: like pixel visioning that recorded like an audio tape or whatever.
Speaker 1: The most that I've watched a movie recently and been like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this looks like shit. I didn't realize
Speaker 1: it at the time was Collateral. I was like watching Collateral,
Speaker 1: I was like, why does this look like absolute shit? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think it's just like front going to from whatever
Speaker 1: he did back then with digital to like the high
Speaker 1: deaf screens that we have now. It's a little yeah.
Speaker 3: Was it colateral was shot on basically like actual security cameras.
Speaker 3: It was were just like it was something where it
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, this is the point. It looked like
Speaker 3: funn Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, basic amazing. Andrew, where can
Speaker 3: people find you? Is there a work media you've been enjoying?
Speaker 3: Let's see two things. One is I have over and
Speaker 3: over again apparently been saying the wrong date. We're doing
Speaker 3: a Yozas Racist Sketch Show, a SF Sketch Best Show
Speaker 3: on February third at seven pm at Cobbs Comedy Club.
Speaker 3: Apparently I have fucked up the promo every time on
Speaker 3: my own show, so please please come see that. And
Speaker 3: work of media sort of, my friend bootlegged this recipe
Speaker 3: for miso butter with chili crisp from I think Momofuku
Speaker 3: and like two parts butter, one one part like miso,
Speaker 3: just whip it together, chili crisp on it, and then
Speaker 3: you do the thing with the spoon where you kind
Speaker 3: of like go halfway and then turn it and make
Speaker 3: the little round of the butter like the little you know,
Speaker 3: oval shape looking thing. Anyway, that's what I've been doing.
Speaker 3: That's what I did over all, every conceivable holiday was
Speaker 3: like spend a quinnelle.
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you. The spoon thing.
Speaker 3: You also do it at gelato places. I guess, I
Speaker 3: don't fucking know anyway. That's that's the media I've been consuming,
Speaker 3: is I guess YouTube videos about how to do that
Speaker 3: thing and how to do this butter. There you go,
Speaker 3: because that's a saint.
Speaker 1: That was very sustaining. It was beautifully put the work media.
Speaker 1: I've been enjoying tweet from d Souza with Zero's instead
Speaker 1: of O's tweeted chizam but for weird noises at night
Speaker 1: and I think that's a good idea for an event.
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Speaker 1: a song that we think you might enjoy. Super producer
Speaker 1: Justin Connor, is there a song in this Year of
Speaker 1: Our Lord twenty twenty four, you think people might enjoy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, this song is by Nuja Best. He's an amazing
Speaker 7: sample based producer, much like Jay Dilla.
Speaker 5: He's from Japan.
Speaker 7: He unfortunately passed away a while ago at an early age,
Speaker 7: but this is one of the first ever tracks that
Speaker 7: he made and it's not very easy to find anymore.
Speaker 7: It's a jazzy remix of one Love by Nas. It's great,
Speaker 7: clean the house music, as Miles always says, So you
Speaker 7: can check out one Love the Nuja Best Remix in
Speaker 7: the footnotes footnotes.
Speaker 1: All right, we will link off to that in the footnotes.
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Speaker 4: To an expert. And it's going to be a blast.
Speaker 4: Have a great weekend. Happy to be back with you, folks,
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