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Speaker 1: gaining five to fifteen pounds of eggnog while we unwind.

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Speaker 1: Here at Daily Zeitgeist, in addition to publishing our normal

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Speaker 1: year end episodes and Santo's University, etc. We've decided to

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Speaker 1: weeks in a row. How Jack, how did you guys

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Speaker 1: determine the top ten episodes? They were all equally incredible. Well,

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Speaker 1: we used a little something called democracy. Ever heard of it?

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Speaker 1: Depending on when you listen to this episode, that might

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Speaker 1: We hope you enjoyed listening to this year of TDZ

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Speaker 1: see you all in twenty twenty five. We hope you

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Speaker 1: have a RESTful holiday. Hello the Internet, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: Season three, twenty.

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Speaker 2: Episode four of Daily's I Gustay production of iHeartRadio. This

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Speaker 2: America's shared consciousness. And it is Friday, January fifth, twenty

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Speaker 1: That's too many Come on, nah, too many number.

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Speaker 1: Well. My name is Jack O'Brien aka. So gang time

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Speaker 1: abstain and still bone. That is courtesy of Rezik, a throwback.

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Speaker 1: I'm just curious how that came to you, Rezik on

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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined by a very special guest

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Speaker 3: I just want to take a moment to wish a

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Speaker 3: happy New Year to all the sun worshiping freaks in

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Speaker 1: I guess sun worshippers, Yeah, you freaks.

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Speaker 3: Weird MoonLife Forever the la true Calist.

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Speaker 1: Well, Andrew, we are throwed to be joining our third

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Speaker 4: Which takes down the patriarchy one movie at a time,

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Speaker 4: and it is just one of the best podcasts in existence.

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Speaker 4: Also happened to have a master's degree in film the

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Speaker 1: I knew I like everybody sees to it's wild. I

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Speaker 5: So zeitgang, who's also a Bechdel head, grab your tickets.

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Speaker 5: But anyway, so I'm like editing this silly little promo

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is a particularly horny. But these are

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my personality in its entirety. So it's very frustrating,

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Speaker 3: So but I don't know, I just feel like, you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm bout it unless it's fair their wembing Yama?

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Speaker 5: Yes, that would make sense, but it is it's just

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Speaker 5: that's what problem is.

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Speaker 5: All you need to know. And Andrew, You're right like this,

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Speaker 1: And when you become solo, Polly, does that give you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because Bono is the YouTube guy. Bono is the sunny.

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Speaker 5: Now, so it's no different. Yeah, it's we just have social.

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Speaker 3: they wanted, put out a Mickey alert and it all

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Speaker 3: goes to our phones and we all like have to

435
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Speaker 3: protect the copyright of Mickey Mouse's.

436
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Speaker 1: The Mickey Mouse Protection Act is what was called. So predictably,

437
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: just hours after Mickey entered the public domain, we got

438
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Speaker 1: a trailer for a horror movie in which a guy

439
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: in a Mickey Mouse mask is like a knife wielding

440
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Speaker 1: serial killer.

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Speaker 5: And didn't they just do this with Winnie the Pooh also.

442
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: And also the mask looks like shit, like the Winning

443
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: the Pooh won like for some reason, they just they're like, Okay,

444
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: you're allowed to use it, but you have to like

445
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: make it out of a paper bag in like fifteen minutes.

446
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: Looks like total shit. Yeah, it's also set in a

447
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: Chuck E cheese Asque restaurant because of the success of

448
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: Five Knife Freddy.

449
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 5: Okay, so it's yeah, five Knife Freddy. Is that is

450
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 5: that you doing a joke?

451
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: Is that? Yeah? That's what we called it. I think

452
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: it's actually when you're your co host on the Bechdel Cast,

453
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 1: Jamie Loftus was on.

454
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Speaker 5: We were Now, I just outed myself as someone who

455
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 5: didn't listen to.

456
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: That didn't listen to your own I listened to everything

457
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: Miles has ever been on, including phone calls that he

458
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: doesn't know I'm listening.

459
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Speaker 3: You have like a secret baby monitor in his house.

460
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Speaker 1: I do just for you, that's right, and sometimes a

461
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: whisper things while he's asleep, just you know, incept ideas.

462
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's five Nights at Freddy's. I'm sorry, Caitlin.

463
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Speaker 5: I just wanted to make sure that it wasn't like

464
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 5: a classic gory google.

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Speaker 1: Right right, could could easily be. Yeah, but so just

466
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: the least original original film ever proposed.

467
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Speaker 3: The thing that bums me out about these is like

468
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 3: like they had it ready to go. It's like so uncreative.

469
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 3: I just wish some some just like like this. The

470
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 3: creativity is like shockingly low for this, for this whole

471
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 3: like all of it, the whole classicgory of these makey makey. Yeah,

472
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 3: it's really it just bums me out. I don't know,

473
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 3: I just I just want something funnier, I guess.

474
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I think funny would be too close to

475
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: so like none of this is really legal, like you,

476
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: Disney could like sue any one of these that they

477
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: wanted to out of existence. It's just a gamble like

478
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: whether that draws attention to it or not.

479
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Speaker 3: You know, that was a thing that I learned when

480
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: I worked at Comedy Central many years ago, that like,

481
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 3: I mean, it was outside of it, but it was

482
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 3: maybe this is a private conversation with not socil repeating,

483
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 3: but doesn't.

484
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: Matter that much.

485
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 3: But like you know, I was told that often because

486
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: you like kind of have the impression like, oh, you

487
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 3: can't use Coca Cola in your things, so you've got

488
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 3: to use this thing because of copyright or whatever. And

489
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 3: it's rarely that, Like it's usually just that like the

490
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 3: business affairs and ad salespeople would like to get Coca

491
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: Cola as a sponsor pay them. Yeah yeah, so like

492
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 3: you know, we are a free but it has nothing

493
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Speaker 3: to do with the like base legality of like can

494
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Speaker 3: you use it?

495
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Speaker 1: And it's such a like detraction from the quality of movies.

496
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think you've told us that before, but

497
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Speaker 1: it's like so interesting to me because it's such a

498
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: like if you could just like it takes you out

499
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: of the movie so much to have people drinking from

500
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Speaker 1: a can that is like, yeah, says soda.

501
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 3: On it Crackle Cola, Yeah, exactly to me. The example

502
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: I was given, I don't remember who said this, but

503
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 3: like you just can't like defame the product, like you

504
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 3: can't have someone drink a coke drop dead from a

505
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 3: heart attack and then all the characters say that's what

506
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 3: always happens when you drink.

507
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 5: So as long as you're not like slandering the brand, yeah, right,

508
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 5: Like quaylude for example.

509
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: Right, which we've always said on the show, is very

510
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: good for you. It's like taking your vitamins in the

511
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: nineteen seventies.

512
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Speaker 5: You know.

513
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Speaker 3: I wonder if just so you can't you can't misrepresent,

514
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 3: you can't have kayludes and just be like these get

515
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 3: me high with no consequence.

516
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: Like I just did. Yeah.

517
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Speaker 5: Well, I was an extra on a movie set one time,

518
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 5: huge Brag. It was a movie that never got a

519
00:30:55,320 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 5: theatrical release, but Emma Roberts was in it, and it

520
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 5: was about a high school basketball team. And I was

521
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 5: in this like cafeteria scene where there were vending machines

522
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 5: in the shot, but originally the vending machines I think

523
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 5: were Pepsi. And then they brought the like production brought

524
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 5: in basically like huge stickers that said Coca Cola on

525
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Speaker 5: them to place them over we'll goo to make it

526
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Speaker 5: seem like yees a Coca Cola machine.

527
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Speaker 1: Wow.

528
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Speaker 5: I don't know exactly why they did that, if that

529
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 5: was some sort of like agreement with Cola or I

530
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 5: don't or if they were like we want money from

531
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Speaker 5: Coca Cola but not Pepsi.

532
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Speaker 1: I don't.

533
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 5: I don't know enough about it, but I just found

534
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 5: that fascinating that it was like, oh, you like specifically

535
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 5: brought in stickers to like make to change what this

536
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 5: product would be.

537
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

538
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: The director is just like, no, these people have cocina.

539
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: They would never No, it's not this is real.

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Speaker 3: This is taking me out. Pepsi. Roberts fuck out.

541
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Speaker 5: Of does not track.

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Speaker 1: Emma Roberts does not exist in a universe. Alongside PEPSI

543
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: like that. That doesn't It's like, you can't put Michael

544
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: Douglas in a movie set in the past. You can't

545
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: put Emma Roberts in a movie in which there's right,

546
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't make.

547
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 3: Even if he was in like if Michael Douglas was

548
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,479
Speaker 3: in a period piece, you'd still need to add minimum

549
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 3: put like a BlackBerry in his hand.

550
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Speaker 1: He doesn't love Yeah, that was in a period No.

551
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: That So William Goldman, the screenwriter has he wrote Princess Bride,

552
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: and he has like what one of his books on screenwriting,

553
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: I forget which one it is. He talks about how

554
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: his theory for why Ghost in the Darkness I think

555
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: is the movie it's like Jaws, but a lion in

556
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: Africa that is like killing everybody. And then there's like

557
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: it's the eighteen hundreds, I think, and they're like the

558
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: Quint character is this like stoic lion hunter played by

559
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Speaker 1: Michael Douglas, And everyone heading into the movie movie's release

560
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: was like this is a sure thing, like we have

561
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: the next Jaws. And then it like tanked. And his

562
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: theory for why it tanked is that Michael Douglas just

563
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: cannot exist in like a movie that takes outside of

564
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: like After the Earth before the nineteen eighties, Like he

565
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: just like needs to be a horny businessman like that.

566
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: That's it.

567
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Speaker 3: Like it's kind of unsettling to even just imagine Michael

568
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 3: Douglas in the same room as an animal or in

569
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 3: the same like right, so like like anything that isn't like, yeah.

570
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: He tried it and fatal attraction. Look what happened to

571
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: that happened to that rabbit? Jesus Anyways, like that, multiple

572
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: movies actually hit on the same like multiple trailers dropped

573
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: or I guess this one didn't have a full trailer.

574
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: But there's like a Whore an animated horror movie where

575
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: Mickey Man else will torment a group of unsuspecting ferry passengers.

576
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: So they're like steamboat Will, what's the first thing we

577
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: all think about with making house that he was on

578
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: that dang steamboat a long time ago. Well, what this

579
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: movie presupposes is he's still on that steamboat and he's angry.

580
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: But like so that winning the Pooh movie exactly, Like

581
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: does he do it in like weird like animation, like

582
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: like giving looks to the camera, like whistling out of

583
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: the side of his mouth as.

584
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 3: He's like kind of lightple up double knee bounce per step, right,

585
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: and that's just how I walk canonically, I walk into

586
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 3: double knee bounce everywhere I go.

587
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: But that shitty Winning the Pooh movie, Caitlyn, you referenced,

588
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: that is the first in the class. This classic word

589
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: movie was made for one hundred thousand dollars. Like evidently

590
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: like every one of the dollars not spent over that

591
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: is on screen, Like you're like, yeah, no, that's just

592
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: a dude in a mask that like you didn't even

593
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: bother to get the best mask for this job.

594
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: Whoa.

595
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: And that movie made five point two million dollars because

596
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: people were just like mad at it, and so it

597
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: got passed around and like the director of one of

598
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: these slasher Mickey Mouse slasher movies, this is the direct quote.

599
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 1: We actually love the negative feedback because you know, it

600
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: just draws more interest. There seems to be, you know,

601
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: a market for people that want to hate this kind

602
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 1: of stuff. And it doesn't matter just if you watch

603
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: the movie, if you pay to watch the movie, then yeah,

604
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: that's all we want, said the director. I mean work

605
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: of art. Well, give a fuck what do you Why

606
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: are you talking to me? None of this matters, just

607
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: so out, so nihilistic. There is like a thing that

608
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: I've been noticing just as a trend across media where

609
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: we no longer distinguish between Like people were talking about

610
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: how viral one of those Israeli comedy sketches went, you

611
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: know the ones that like I guess Brent Gelman was

612
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: in one of them and Michael Rappoport, but they're just

613
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: like super offensive, like yeah, and people were like it's

614
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 1: gone viral. These things are like it's like no, people,

615
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: people aren't like laughing and passing it around. Everyone's like

616
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: horrified at this. But there there just does seem to

617
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: be a way that we're just like flattening it out.

618
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: And it's just like all attention is not only does

619
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: it like work, but it's just evaluated the same is

620
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, that's that's a success, shamelessly mask off.

621
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: We don't give a fuck unless it's a shitty Mickey

622
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 1: Mouse mask.

623
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it isn't.

624
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 1: It isn't.

625
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 6: It's like you know, the like, oh, I like the

626
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 6: negative press actually likes like that's like that is like

627
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 6: the fifth emotion you have after like you.

628
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 3: Know, I know it's aw budget, it's kind of goofy,

629
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 3: but like maybe this is gonna be good and like no, okay,

630
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 3: but like call you know, I'm just saying like that.

631
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,479
Speaker 3: That is also a type of just hope. Yeah, I guess,

632
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 3: like it's not untrue, but it's also like, you know,

633
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 3: I'm positive this person's dream wasn't to cynically snatch. I mean,

634
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 3: admittedly a decent amount of money, but not a good

635
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 3: Hollywood you know, favorite Hollywood director amount of money from

636
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 3: this enterprise. So yeah, they're still disappointed. The way I

637
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,479
Speaker 3: read it was like he's like, yeah, man, it's great,

638
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 3: but it could be. He said this was like a glassy,

639
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: far off gaze in his eyes, you know, just like

640
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 3: feeling his all of his life's dreams dry up. Yeah

641
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 3: it's still dark.

642
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:11,959
Speaker 1: Let me feel better.

643
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 3: I mean, it's still money. I guess we do enjoy money,

644
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 3: I suppose.

645
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 5: But it is the thing of like when people are like, yeah,

646
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 5: I made it bad on purpose, then that I was

647
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 5: and that was intentional and it's part of the commentary,

648
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 5: and it's like, no, you didn't. You tried your hardest

649
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 5: and it was bad, and that's okay.

650
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay.

651
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 4: You're bad.

652
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Speaker 5: It's okay to be bad.

653
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Speaker 1: There's there's so many people in the world. You're one

654
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: of the bad ones. It's okay.

655
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Speaker 3: At least you have money. A lot of people are

656
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: bad and don't get money.

657
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: At least you can do the job that your boss

658
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 1: has asked you to do. That's pretty good. That counts

659
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: for something, Buddy, You're gonna stay. Disney can still like

660
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: totally prevent people from using their early version of Mickey

661
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 1: Mouse on consumer products, like the way that people use logos.

662
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: It's like that it the closer you look at this,

663
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: the harder it is to distinguish like what actually changed,

664
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Speaker 1: because Disney could still sue you out of existence. I

665
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: think the thing that changed is that, like a horror movie,

666
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: there's no way that anyone would confuse that with being

667
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: something that Disney was putting out. And so this is

668
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: like the same. Legally, this is even though it on

669
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: its surface seems like the most subversive thing to do,

670
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: it's actually legally the safest thing to do because it's

671
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: the most evidently like satirical.

672
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the thing is it's like all all

673
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 3: this ever has done this shit is like slightly changed

674
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 3: the risk calculus for litigation, you know, with a slight

675
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 3: change in one portion of the copyright law, but you

676
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 3: know other shit is blah blah blah, Like yeah, yeah,

677
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 3: it makes it slightly more of a pain in the

678
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Speaker 3: ass for them, Like it gives your lawyers one more

679
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 3: paper they can file that then gets swatted down by

680
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Speaker 3: the Disney lawyers.

681
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

682
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that does cost Disney money. That costs a

683
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Speaker 3: billable hours.

684
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: But like we'll get shit. Yeah, they don't. They don't

685
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Speaker 1: give a fuck. They will spend you into the ground.

686
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

687
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Speaker 1: One of the most famous examples of Disney threatening legal

688
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: action over the use of Mickey Mouse wasn't for a

689
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: scathing parody, and in fact there is like there was

690
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: a short film in which Mickey Mouse is sent to

691
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Speaker 1: the Vietnam War and shot and killed immediately after getting

692
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Speaker 1: off the transport. And they did not sue that they

693
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Speaker 1: were because they were like, oh, that that would just

694
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Speaker 1: draw attention to this. So that came out in nineteen

695
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: sixty eight and they were just like, yeah, go knock

696
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: yourself out. But they did sue three daycares that had

697
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: unlacensed Disney murals. Yeah, so it's just like yeah, yeah.

698
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Speaker 3: Because that could be seen as like Disneyland, Yes, Jake Cars,

699
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 3: Disney branded.

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Speaker 1: That's our end game, you guys. We will take all

701
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 1: of your children into an underground bunker with our characters

702
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 1: painted all over it. That's not for you to use.

703
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and then we're

704
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 1: gonna come back and talk about the controversy that everybody's

705
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: waiting to hear about whether you wear socks in bed.

706
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Speaker 1: We'll be right back, and we're back, and yeah, as

707
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Speaker 1: I mentioned, there's a Wall Street Journal article, if you

708
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: sleep in socks, You're a psychopath. Health tip kicks up

709
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: controversy if you sleep in socks, You're a psychopaths and quotes,

710
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: so it's quoting one of the sources from this article,

711
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: but it's this is like one of those articles that

712
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: mainstream hastitutions do sometimes where they you can tell like

713
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: they are having fun or they're trying to communicate the

714
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: idea that they're having fun, and there's like it's full

715
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: of just shitty puns. So brought it to my attention.

716
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: I started like googling around, like am I weird for

717
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 1: wearing socks in bed? And yes, very fucking weird. People

718
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: are not. Like, there's a Reddit thread that is all

719
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: about this, and you know it's full of like aggressive

720
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:36,959
Speaker 1: opinions on both sides. But like, the percentage of people

721
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Speaker 1: who responded and said they wear socks is like between

722
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: five and twenty percent of people wear socks and bed.

723
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: Everybody else is like what Like when I ask people there,

724
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: horrified at the idea that somebody would wear socks and bed. Yeah,

725
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. Sleep specialists they think it's a good

726
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 1: idea because they apparently, if you keep your feet warm,

727
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: then your body has to work less hard at like

728
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 1: warming them up, and so it actually keeps your body

729
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: temperature lower to have socks on your feet somehow.

730
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Speaker 3: Okay, because the whole rest of your body.

731
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Speaker 1: Is like working to keep your feet from freezing off something. Okay, Okay,

732
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: seems like bullshit. But I don't know why, especially with

733
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Speaker 1: this being such a wildly unpopular take. I don't know

734
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: why sleep experts would be bring this up other than

735
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 1: it's the heat marketing that we talked about before.

736
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Speaker 5: Right, All right, well I'm ready to disclose my habits.

737
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, can we get a little drunk.

738
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 3: I want to hear here, like like the little drum

739
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 3: they use.

740
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Speaker 1: The little tipoty thing they used before, like they reveal

741
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: in deal or No Deal, what's inside the briefcase?

742
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, okay, put that sound effect in and okay,

743
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 5: this is not this is the diaclimactic. I will wear

744
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 5: socks to bed in the winter when it's cold, and

745
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 5: I want to say form.

746
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Speaker 1: But oh my god, the crowd are losing their fucking

747
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: ten large that that was gonna be your answer.

748
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Speaker 5: But they are socks that are like my specific bed socks.

749
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Speaker 5: I will not wear them around the rest of my apartment.

750
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Speaker 5: I would never like put them in shoes and go

751
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 5: out and then like also then wear those into bed.

752
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 5: Anyone who like goes about their days in their dirty

753
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 5: socks and then and then wears those same socks to bed.

754
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Speaker 5: I do believe that those are I do believe, Well.

755
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Speaker 1: You just turned into a Southern Belt leghorn, now, you see.

756
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: I do believe that those people are. Well. Yeah, that

757
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: one of the articles that I found was debunk or like,

758
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: you know, dismissive of sock wearing in bed based on

759
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 1: the idea that like we're just coming from the gym

760
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: in sweaty socks and like shopping in to bed, It's like, no,

761
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: what the fuck? Like we don't have one pair of socks?

762
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: Like the point is that they're like dry, clean night

763
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: socks that you put on after you take a shower.

764
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Speaker 3: Yes, here's my my question for both of you freaks, though,

765
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 3: did you is this behavior that was like acquired or

766
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 3: did you never? Have you ever? I mean I'm sure

767
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 3: you've ever, but did you ever like on a regular

768
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 3: basis sleep without socks and make make a decision to

769
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Speaker 3: be like I'm a socksman. Socks that was both inappropriated

770
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 3: and just float off my dog? But you know what

771
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Speaker 3: I mean, like has it always been socks?

772
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Speaker 1: You know? More or less? So? Okay, I actually there is.

773
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Speaker 1: So the thing that's interesting to me about this is

774
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 1: that there really seems to be a broad, like propagandistic

775
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: push against wearing socks in bed, Like I want my

776
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: mom told me like growing up about the scariest nightmare

777
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: she ever had and blamed it on wearing socks to bed. Well,

778
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: she was like I and I think it was because

779
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: I wore socks to bed and that's and she was

780
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: trying to scare you out of that I guess like

781
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: it's but it's just like the Reddit thread like has

782
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Speaker 1: somebody like that people are like I physically recoil at

783
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: the thought of wearing socks while asleep. I think sleeping

784
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 1: with socks on feels grotesque asleep with socks when I'm

785
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: too drunk to take them off, and honestly, waking up

786
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: with socks on is worse than the hangover. But that

787
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: person is going to bed with dirty socks on. And

788
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: then somebody else wrote one percent of socks sleepers are

789
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: serial killers. True stat that I did not just make

790
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: up on the spot, and Andrew, you agree that is true?

791
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought I I will just say I have

792
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 3: never thought about it. I just reflexively like, don't like

793
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 3: like having socks on when I sleep?

794
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: Okay.

795
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 5: I have a few counterpoints.

796
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, One is you do that.

797
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 5: Okay, Yes, socks can be gross and can become gross,

798
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 5: but also so our feet. And if I was like

799
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 5: in bed with someone who had gross feet and they

800
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 5: were like rubbing up against me and like they hadn't

801
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 5: clipped their toenails and like recently, that to me would

802
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 5: be grosser than wearing socks to bed. Second counterpoint, I

803
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 5: run very cold. I am always chilly, and I if

804
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 5: I and like I'm also I have like pretty bad insomnia,

805
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 5: and so conditions need to be like absolutely perfect for

806
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 5: me to sleep. It has to be you know, not

807
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 5: too noisy. The bed has to be comfortable. My anxiety

808
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 5: needs to be at a manageable level. I need to

809
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 5: be the right temperature. And usually my feet are too

810
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 5: cold without socks, especially you know, in the colder months,

811
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Speaker 5: So I like will lay awake all night long if

812
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 5: I IF I if my feet are too cold because

813
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 5: I'm not wearing socks.

814
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Speaker 1: So feet and fingers are the only parts of it.

815
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: Yeahld everything else about me runs super hot. But yeah,

816
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: that that is the case. Yeah, I should, I should

817
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: mention it. I also am completely new to other than

818
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: the socks when I just yeah, just three socks on.

819
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 5: Okay. That reminded me of that Flight of the Concord

820
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 5: song business socks, which reminds me of I think a

821
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 5: more a more relevant conversation here is if you wear

822
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 5: socks during sex. Yeah, that is psychopathic behavior.

823
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, because then you also have the garters on because

824
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: you don't want your socks to fall down. So yeah,

825
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: furious sock garters on around your knees. Steamboat Willie's back,

826
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Speaker 1: steamboat Willie fucks with sock carters on. It's out and

827
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: his socks are his socks are up. I don't know.

828
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: I also like sleep on my face, So I feel

829
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: like maybe I think I have like reverse claustrophobia, like

830
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: I need to like because I think a lot of

831
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: what peoples need to be I need to be like smart. Yeah,

832
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: like that. I think what a lot of people are

833
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: responding to when I read their negative responses, like to

834
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Speaker 1: get the ship off.

835
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Speaker 3: Of me, like I don't want to something like you know,

836
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 3: I think that's actually as we're talking, I think in

837
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 3: a vacuum, like I will take the socks off in

838
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 3: my sleep, like if they're on, like if in the

839
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Speaker 3: event that I have, for instance, like falling asleep, you know,

840
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 3: maybe sooner than I anticipated for whatever, you know, chemic

841
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Speaker 3: induced reason.

842
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 5: We're on so many ludes.

843
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll wind up off, They'll wind up sometimes across

844
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 3: the room, so the body doesn't want them on. Yeah,

845
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 3: it's not my choice.

846
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 5: Really, that's like it's like a body rejecting like a

847
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 5: kidney transplant.

848
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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, I mean, like if your unconscious body

849
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: is just like being like, get these, get the coffee. Yeah, yeah,

850
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 1: I think there's nothing I could really do about it.

851
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: Nature has spoken in that case.

852
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 3: But yeah, whereas your unconscious body isn't it certainly isn't

853
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 3: going to be like okay.

854
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Speaker 5: Putting socks on. If I fall asleep without socks, I

855
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 5: will wake up them on.

856
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: So many socks on. I have three pairs of socks on. Well, Caitlin,

857
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: such a pleasure having you on the Daily Geist. What

858
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: a joy? Where can people find you? Follow you all

859
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:57,240
Speaker 1: that good stuff?

860
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 5: You can find and follow me mostly on Instagram at

861
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,720
Speaker 5: Caitlin Durante. You can also go to my website Kaitlyn

862
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 5: Durante dot com for I don't know information I don't

863
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 5: know if I'm teaching screenwriting classes, I list them there

864
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 5: and like put the registration links. And the Bechdel Cast

865
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 5: is going on tour, like I mentioned, So if you

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Speaker 5: live in San Francisco, Sacramento, San Diego, Austin, or Dallas,

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Speaker 5: we are coming to those cities in early February, So

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Speaker 5: you can go to link tree slash Bechdel Cast for

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Speaker 5: all the tickets to the show's there. So come and

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Speaker 5: say hi to Jamie and I and we'd love to

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Speaker 5: see you there.

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Speaker 1: There you go. Is there a work of media that

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Speaker 1: you've been enjoying.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I also alluded to this already. But the movie

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Speaker 5: American Fiction that came out pretty recently, I very very

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Speaker 5: much enjoyed. I think it's super smart and funny and

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Speaker 5: I laughed a lot, and I highly recommend it.

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Speaker 1: I have not seen it. My movie watch over the Break.

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Speaker 1: My family likes to go to a and this is

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Speaker 1: crazy World a little weird, like to go see a

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Speaker 1: movie on Christmas and what the fuck the guy who

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Speaker 1: was so excited about Kaitlin's answer, Oh, whether sucks? They

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Speaker 1: were all show Yeah, sawt Ferrari And the degree to

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Speaker 1: which that movie, like apparently before seat belts, when there

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Speaker 1: was a car accident, people were spring loaded in their

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Speaker 1: car to just like like if you ever dropped a

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Speaker 1: pair of AirPods at like a air pod case and

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Speaker 1: they just like shoot out all like that. That's apparently

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Speaker 1: what used to happen to people in car accidents. I

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Speaker 1: will say, damn, no more, but pretty wild.

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Speaker 5: I haven't seen that movie yet, but I find it

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Speaker 5: fascinating that it is that it came out only a

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Speaker 5: few years after Ford versus Ferrari, So like, why all

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Speaker 5: these Ferrari movies all of a sudden and it starts, yeah,

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Speaker 5: there it is, and that if I'm not mistaken, Adam

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Speaker 5: Driver is playing I'm not sure, but he's doing like

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Speaker 5: an Italian accent.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't the whole thing with that Lady Gaga movie

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Speaker 5: right Gucci Gucci, where Adam Driver was also doing an

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Speaker 5: Italian accent that everyone was like, why is this a thing?

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Speaker 5: Everyone's really doing a bad job.

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Speaker 3: His Jared let really took a lot of this.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I see, I see full Mario like just it's

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Speaker 1: me was in that one. This one's definitely like not

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Speaker 1: not as silly as that one, but you do come

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Speaker 1: away being like this is the this is such a

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Speaker 1: strange form of type casting that he has thrust himself into,

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Speaker 1: of like being a Italian historical figure who was having

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Speaker 1: marital problems and is the namesake of a still famous

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Speaker 1: brand and who like kind of has an Italian accent

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Speaker 1: but not really. But it's like both of the Like

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Speaker 1: the Ferrari movie, I thought he was going to be

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Speaker 1: like a race car driver, you know, like the name,

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Speaker 1: like his name promises, but he's just like the a CEO.

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Speaker 1: Like it's like very much like a business guy. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's just a business guy like trying to deal with

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Speaker 1: an affair and like, and it's still cool. I don't

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Speaker 1: hate it. Michael Mann. The car races. The car races

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Speaker 1: parts are fun. The car races parts are fun.

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Speaker 3: Is it is it still it's set in like the seventies?

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Speaker 3: Is this still shot on like the grainiest digital video

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Speaker 3: camera you've ever seen?

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Speaker 1: No, it's set in the I would say the forties

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Speaker 1: or fifties. Okay, yeah, and it's it's shot like a

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Speaker 1: you know, just clear like you like, it's clear, you

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Speaker 1: can you can see there's nothing on the camera.

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Speaker 3: I like his movies that are like shot on that

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Speaker 3: like pixel visioning that recorded like an audio tape or whatever.

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Speaker 1: The most that I've watched a movie recently and been like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, this looks like shit. I didn't realize

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Speaker 1: it at the time was Collateral. I was like watching Collateral,

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Speaker 1: I was like, why does this look like absolute shit? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think it's just like front going to from whatever

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Speaker 1: he did back then with digital to like the high

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Speaker 1: deaf screens that we have now. It's a little yeah.

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Speaker 3: Was it colateral was shot on basically like actual security cameras.

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Speaker 3: It was were just like it was something where it

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Speaker 3: was like, yeah, this is the point. It looked like

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Speaker 3: funn Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, basic amazing. Andrew, where can

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Speaker 3: people find you? Is there a work media you've been enjoying?

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Speaker 3: Let's see two things. One is I have over and

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Speaker 3: over again apparently been saying the wrong date. We're doing

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Speaker 3: a Yozas Racist Sketch Show, a SF Sketch Best Show

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Speaker 3: on February third at seven pm at Cobbs Comedy Club.

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Speaker 3: Apparently I have fucked up the promo every time on

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Speaker 3: my own show, so please please come see that. And

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Speaker 3: work of media sort of, my friend bootlegged this recipe

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Speaker 3: for miso butter with chili crisp from I think Momofuku

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Speaker 3: and like two parts butter, one one part like miso,

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Speaker 3: just whip it together, chili crisp on it, and then

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Speaker 3: you do the thing with the spoon where you kind

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Speaker 3: of like go halfway and then turn it and make

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Speaker 3: the little round of the butter like the little you know,

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Speaker 3: oval shape looking thing. Anyway, that's what I've been doing.

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Speaker 3: That's what I did over all, every conceivable holiday was

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Speaker 3: like spend a quinnelle.

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Speaker 1: Yes, thank you. The spoon thing.

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Speaker 3: You also do it at gelato places. I guess, I

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Speaker 3: don't fucking know anyway. That's that's the media I've been consuming,

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Speaker 3: is I guess YouTube videos about how to do that

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Speaker 3: thing and how to do this butter. There you go,

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Speaker 3: because that's a saint.

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Speaker 1: That was very sustaining. It was beautifully put the work media.

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Speaker 1: I've been enjoying tweet from d Souza with Zero's instead

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Speaker 1: of O's tweeted chizam but for weird noises at night

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Speaker 1: and I think that's a good idea for an event.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeikes, read

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Speaker 1: the Daily Zeikeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fampaign

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Speaker 1: and a website, daily zeikes dot com, where we post

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Speaker 1: our episode than our footnote off to the information that

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Speaker 1: we talked about in today's episode, as well as a

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Speaker 1: song I don't know why that threw me so much,

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Speaker 1: a Hey I'm rusty all rightoty four, as well as

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Speaker 1: a song that we think you might enjoy. Super producer

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Speaker 1: Justin Connor, is there a song in this Year of

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Speaker 1: Our Lord twenty twenty four, you think people might enjoy.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, this song is by Nuja Best. He's an amazing

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Speaker 7: sample based producer, much like Jay Dilla.

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Speaker 5: He's from Japan.

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Speaker 7: He unfortunately passed away a while ago at an early age,

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Speaker 7: but this is one of the first ever tracks that

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Speaker 7: he made and it's not very easy to find anymore.

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Speaker 7: It's a jazzy remix of one Love by Nas. It's great,

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Speaker 7: clean the house music, as Miles always says, So you

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Speaker 7: can check out one Love the Nuja Best Remix in

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Speaker 7: the footnotes footnotes.

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Speaker 1: All right, we will link off to that in the footnotes.

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Speaker 1: The Daily Zaike is the production of iHeartRadio. For more

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Speaker 1: podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite show. That

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Speaker 1: is going to do it for us this morning. We

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Speaker 1: are back on Monday to tell you what happened over

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Speaker 1: the weekend and to talk.

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Speaker 4: To an expert. And it's going to be a blast.

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Speaker 4: Have a great weekend. Happy to be back with you, folks,

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Speaker 4: and we'll talk to you all then. Bye bye.