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Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Hope you're having a

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Speaker 1: great day. The Doug Gottlieb Show broadcast live every single

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Speaker 1: day over twenty years running. And we have ourselves a series, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean it felt like a series before. They always

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Speaker 1: say in basketball, series doesn't start till the road team

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Speaker 1: wins a game. Dodgers won a game in Game two,

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Speaker 1: then the Dodgers win an epic game in Game three,

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Speaker 1: and then what's a one nothing Dodger lead becomes a

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Speaker 1: two to one Blue Jays lead on a Vlad Guerrero

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Speaker 1: Junior to run home run against show Hey Otani, and

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Speaker 1: and here we are, there we are. I'm a really

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Speaker 1: Dodgers threw through a reliever to the Wolves as they're

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Speaker 1: as they're prone to do. Blake Snell goes tonight ton

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Speaker 1: to talk about as as Dan Bayer said yesterday, Hey

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Speaker 1: remember the NBA. Yeah, that was fun. We talked about

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Speaker 1: it for about two days. And I actually think that's

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Speaker 1: the power of when you know you have a baseball

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Speaker 1: series that captivates people's attention, because look, when the NFL

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Speaker 1: is not being played, you can still talk about the NBA.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so you still talk about the NFL, but

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Speaker 1: there is room during the week for other sports conversation.

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Speaker 1: And because Major League Baseball, I think was so good

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Speaker 1: Game two, it's got our attention. It's got our attention.

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Speaker 1: I guess here's a question. We do make things out

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Speaker 1: to be either your clutch or you're not clutch, right,

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Speaker 1: But but Joe Hay has shown him himself to have

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Speaker 1: these games where he's just incredibly dominant. Game four of

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Speaker 1: the of the nl CS, right, unbelievable, three home runs,

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Speaker 1: strikes out ten. Dude's incredible. Then you go to Game

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Speaker 1: three of the World Series and he hits two home runs,

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Speaker 1: it's four to four. He's on base all nine times

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Speaker 1: he strides up to the plate. It's weird, though, to

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Speaker 1: sit there and go you start to realize the idea

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Speaker 1: of being clutched can at times be a flawed idea

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Speaker 1: because I give you show, hey, Otani, you can't be

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Speaker 1: as good as he was last game, as good as

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Speaker 1: he's been in big situations, and then you know, you

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Speaker 1: do give up a two run home run. That's just

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Speaker 1: that just shows a bunch of things. One, it can

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Speaker 1: in a sport like baseball. It also shows just the

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Speaker 1: levels there the mistakes that are made are so magnified.

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Speaker 1: And he made a mistake on a sweeper against one

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Speaker 1: like a weight off of the back of the Blue Jays.

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Speaker 1: And it now comes back around to Blake Snow who's

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Speaker 1: been great in the World Series in the past, great

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Speaker 1: obviously last series, but was terrible by his own admission

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Speaker 1: in Game one against the Blue Jays. And the Blue

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Speaker 1: especially left handed starting pitching. Now that doesn't mean I'm

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Speaker 1: it just got really, really interesting. It had been interesting,

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Speaker 1: but it had been despite the fact the Blue Jays

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Speaker 1: been one in which it was really about, hey, are

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Speaker 1: And now it's like, not is it ever anyone's game,

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Speaker 1: I loved what you shared with us yesterday because of

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Speaker 1: the true emotions you felt watching a team that you're

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Speaker 1: You're a real fan. You really pay attention, you really care,

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Speaker 1: is is how it is? What's your emotions in watching

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Speaker 3: Last night's game was a kind of a microcosm of

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Speaker 3: what we've been watching all season with this team. I

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Speaker 3: But I'm not surprised. But I do want to quote

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Speaker 3: one of the great orders of our time, Magic Johnson.

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Speaker 3: He's one of the owners of the Dodgers. He tweeted

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Speaker 3: going to lean on Mad. That's great insight, and we'll

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Speaker 1: Has there ever been anyone who's worse on social media

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Speaker 1: and more successful in life than Magic Johnson? Byer, what

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Speaker 4: I haven't. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I can I can let me explain the Magic Johnson thing,

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Speaker 1: because I saw it in full effect in August. Dana

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Speaker 1: and David Pump are dear friends of mine. They they

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Speaker 1: like I think fifteen years and Magic got up to

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Speaker 1: with mad It was some crazy, crazy deal. But I'm

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Speaker 1: I have to admit that, like everybody, when you read

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Speaker 1: that was the Captain obvious. Captain Obvious thinks that tweet

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Speaker 1: But yeah, Game five does determine the series. I love

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Speaker 1: I get that. You look, we're dragging on into November anyway,

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Speaker 1: that emotional high from watching a great sporting event even

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Speaker 1: though it's not my team. I can't imagine for Jason Stewart,

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Speaker 1: we got to get back after it. I know, when

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Speaker 1: But I love this the baseball bam bam, bam, bam bam,

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Speaker 1: as opposed to like NBA finals that are so spaced out.

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Speaker 4: Some well just quickly on that point. The NBA spaces

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Speaker 4: And I think that Game three may have taken a

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Speaker 4: of Dave Roberts even said I think during the game

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Speaker 3: A good friend of mine Reality Steve. You can find

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Speaker 3: him at Reality Steve on social media, big Dodger fan,

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Speaker 3: and he floated this idea, and I think this actually

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Speaker 3: and stuff. I don't think it was fair to either

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Speaker 1: I honestly felt the same thing. And again I don't

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Speaker 1: have the I don't have a horse in the race. Yes, yes, Stampire.

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Speaker 4: No, I was just gonna say Jason's point of like, man,

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Speaker 4: I was so exhausted going to both World Series games

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Speaker 3: Not much?

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Speaker 1: Jester Herbert going to both games?

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Speaker 4: He wasn't there. Last night they had a different parade

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Speaker 4: of Star Prince Harry. Yeah, which, by the way, I

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Speaker 4: knew the Dodgers are going to lose once I saw

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Speaker 4: Megan Markle with a Dodgers head on. It was over cool.

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Speaker 3: If there's ever a cooler in wife, it's Meghan Markle.

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Speaker 4: She's like, the Dodgers haven't lost yet. Guys. You guys,

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Speaker 4: you've everer that interview anybody?

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Speaker 1: Yes, anybody yet yet yet? Yeah? I mean, like, look,

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Speaker 3: Do you think it helped Toronto last night, I don't

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Speaker 3: Doug, I'll take it from here.

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Speaker 3: Now the group text went went like this. Now, what

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Speaker 3: now live is going to turn down a chance to

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Speaker 3: go to a major sporting event game. I really don't.

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Speaker 3: I think we have a very warped view of this

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Speaker 3: and that we have been privileged enough to get access

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Speaker 3: to great games. We've been there, done that. The first

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Speaker 3: thing that I think about, like right now, if Big

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Speaker 3: Mike were to walk into the studio and say I've

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Speaker 3: got tickets to game five. I would first of all,

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Speaker 3: think of all the obstacles and the pain in the

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Speaker 3: ass that I'm going to go through, and I would

445
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Speaker 3: have to spend five or six hours with thick Mike,

446
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Speaker 3: and that's not something I'm looking forward to doing. But

447
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Speaker 3: choose the couch every day of the week. Choose the couch.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know. Okay, So Sam, you're like a

449
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Speaker 1: little bit of kindred spirit here college football you'd rather

450
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Speaker 1: be in person.

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Speaker 8: If I get an opportunity to go to a college

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Speaker 8: football game, I'm definitely gonna go. I you know, a

453
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Speaker 8: couple years ago I went to a USC Colorado game.

454
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Speaker 8: I was pre Dione, one of the first years of

455
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Speaker 8: Lincoln Riley, and I had never been to the coliseum.

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Speaker 8: So that's like a bucket list thing. A couple of

457
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Speaker 8: years ago or last year, I had never been to

458
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Speaker 8: Polya Pavilion and got tickets for Iowa UCLA had to

459
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Speaker 8: go to that. I think it's it's like growing up

460
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Speaker 8: in Iowa City. I could tell you it's really easy

461
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Speaker 8: because at least where I lived, I lived fifteen minute

462
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Speaker 8: walk from the stadium. Different obviously, if you're driving in

463
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Speaker 8: from Davenport or Des Moines, or something. The traffic's traffic

464
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Speaker 8: can be a biach, but walking from your house to

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Speaker 8: the stadium is awesome, and then the tailgating is awesome.

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Speaker 8: So like going to the game and getting out in

467
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Speaker 8: and out of the stadium is not that hard. But

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Speaker 8: then going like Sofi and finding parking, finding reasonably priced parking,

469
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Speaker 8: and then the whole complex is so huge, and then

470
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Speaker 8: finding your seats in Sofi, it's all you know. So

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Speaker 8: some might say I'd rather stay at home for that,

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Speaker 8: but listen, I went to a I went to a

473
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Speaker 8: Dodger playoff game a few years ago. I think it

474
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Speaker 8: was versus the Giants. It was like one nothing Giants.

475
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Speaker 8: It was very windy. We're up way up in the

476
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Speaker 8: in the nosebleeds, and I swear there was like peanut

477
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Speaker 8: shells flying into my eyeballs like it was not I

478
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Speaker 8: can say happily. I'm glad I put the bucket list

479
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Speaker 8: item of going to a Dodger game, but I would

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Speaker 8: have watched rather have watched that game at home.

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Speaker 1: Again, I think I think baseball the sport is way

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Speaker 1: better in the playoffs, but it's better to be in

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Speaker 1: person in the regular season because it's so laid back

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Speaker 1: and you can talk and have beers and whatever. On

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Speaker 1: the other hand, like being there in person is really cool.

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Speaker 1: I think baseball it's so good on TV, so good

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Speaker 1: on TV that unless you have great seats, you're at home.

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Speaker 1: I college football, college basketball, I think in person.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because the students are there, it's more routed.

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Speaker 1: Energy to it. NBA basketball, I actually think NBA and NFL.

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Speaker 1: NBA is probably better in person if you're in the

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Speaker 1: lower bowl the upper bowl, you would be. NFL. I

493
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Speaker 1: think it's such a well covered TV sport. I would

494
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Speaker 1: always do that one at home.

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Speaker 3: And the in game NFL experience, And I've been saying

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Speaker 3: this for years, so this isn't a new thing. The

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Speaker 3: in game NFL experience hasn't caught up to anything close

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Speaker 3: to the home experience. Like you sit there and you

499
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Speaker 3: feel those commercials like that. There's something about the NFL

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Speaker 3: game that seems to and there's a ton of downtime

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Speaker 3: when you're at the game that you don't even realize

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Speaker 3: when you're on the couch, Like it's to me. I

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Speaker 3: I would much rather not go to an NFL game

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Speaker 3: than those other sports you mentioned that.

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Speaker 8: I when I've gone to Iowa games at Kinnick. There

506
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Speaker 8: is a lot of standing around waiting because at home

507
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Speaker 8: you're watching those commercials. It's commercial time out, what is it?

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Speaker 3: The red hat?

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Speaker 1: The reviews as and you're like, oh, come on, and

510
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Speaker 1: then that's a fair one.

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Speaker 4: You're being entertained through all that stuff when you're watching

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Speaker 4: on TV.

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Speaker 1: I here, I have two things that I have to

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Speaker 1: make sure that I mentioned. One, I do have fomo,

515
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Speaker 1: I do have them. I watch and then I'm like, guy,

516
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Speaker 1: I wish I was there, and then I'm there. I'm

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Speaker 1: like I kind of could have stayed home. So me

518
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Speaker 1: saying this may sound a little bit more over ambitious

519
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Speaker 1: than the reality. Dan, I may side with you, guys

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Speaker 1: if somebody asked me point play. So that's the first thing.

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Speaker 1: The second thing is, for twenty better part of twenty

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Speaker 1: three years, I called games. So going to a sporting

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Speaker 1: event where I don't hear somebody talking to me in

524
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Speaker 1: my ear is so refreshing to me. It just is,

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Speaker 1: like I told you, guys, I went to all but

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Speaker 1: one of the Packers' home games last year, and I

527
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Speaker 1: find especially said, if you get in the lower Bowl

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Speaker 1: in Lambeau, it's like a college stadium. Everybody's just into

529
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Speaker 1: the game, nobody's on their phone, You're just having a

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Speaker 1: great time. But the other part to it is there's

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Speaker 1: no voices in my ears other than guys yelling go pack, go,

532
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Speaker 1: and and and can you pass me that beer? Right?

533
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Speaker 1: That's literally it. So I do think maybe I like

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Speaker 1: in stadium or in arena a little bit more in

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Speaker 1: my mind more recently than reality, because I'm so used

536
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Speaker 1: to having somebody talking to my ear and it's like

537
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Speaker 1: refreshing to just go and absorb and enjoy a sporting event.

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Speaker 3: I think that's it too for me. You mentioned Lambo, Like,

539
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Speaker 3: if you told me I could see a game in Lambo,

540
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go. But it's more to say that I

541
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Speaker 3: have been in Lambeau and the new experience at once.

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Speaker 3: I don't need to see more than one game, you know,

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Speaker 3: Dan and I just went to formally Rich Stadium and

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Speaker 3: that was a great experience and I don't need to

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Speaker 3: see another one. Sure, So yeah, there are exceptions to

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Speaker 3: this rule.

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Speaker 1: Here, okay, and that is the Midway.

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Speaker 1: App Also on TV last night was the NBA. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the games in the NBA. I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about Michael Jordan's second appearance on NBC where he's

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Speaker 1: basically being interviewed by Mike Trico. Take a listen to

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Speaker 1: what mj had to say on the insights to excellence

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Speaker 1: in regards to load management.

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Speaker 4: What do you think of when you hear the term

558
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Speaker 4: load management thrown around?

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Speaker 9: Uh, well, it shouldn't be needed first and foremost. You know,

560
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Speaker 9: I never wanted to miss a game because it was

561
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Speaker 9: an opportunity to prove it was. It was something that

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Speaker 9: I felt like, you know, the fans are there that

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Speaker 9: watch me play. I want to impress that guy way

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Speaker 9: up on top who probably worked his ass off to

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Speaker 9: get a ticket or to get money to buy the ticket.

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Speaker 9: You have a duty that if they're wanting to see you,

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Speaker 9: And as an entertainer, I want to show right. If

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Speaker 9: the guys are coming to watch me play, I don't

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Speaker 9: want to miss that opportunity. Now, physically, if I can't

570
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Speaker 9: do it, then I can't do it. But physically if

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Speaker 9: I can do it, and I just don't feel like

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Speaker 9: doing it. That's a whole different lens.

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Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. Yeah, if I can

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Speaker 1: do it, then I will do it. I think what's fascinating.

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Speaker 1: And we've heard these arguments before. Barkley's talked about it.

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Speaker 1: Shack sort of talked about it, all right, he sort

577
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Speaker 1: of talked about it. Every other former NBA or you know,

578
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Speaker 1: is reliving their glory days talking about back in their

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Speaker 1: day they played a two games. We would all agree

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Speaker 1: it's different than Michael Jordan saying it. And we got

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Speaker 1: the podcast. The podcast drops the start of the third

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Speaker 1: hour of the show, so in an hour.

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Speaker 9: And what.

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Speaker 1: An hour and twenty two minutes hour and twenty two

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Speaker 1: minutes to podcast drops full hour podcast download it where

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Speaker 1: every download podcast just typened Doug Gottlieb Show. So we'll

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Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about this. But byer, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think the only two winners in Jordan's saying that

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Speaker 1: last night, and he's not obviously not the first, won't

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Speaker 1: be the last to talk about it. The winners are

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Speaker 1: Jordan himself at NBC because everybody is playing Jordan's comments,

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Speaker 1: So Michael Jordan looks even more heroic as opposed to

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Speaker 1: all the current players because he played eighty two games,

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Speaker 1: and NBC looks great because like, hey, we hired Jordan

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Speaker 1: and he said something. Regardless of whether or not most

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Speaker 1: people have said this anyway, it's Michael Jordan's saying something.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the NBA wins because it makes the

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Speaker 1: current NBA look kind of la laughably soft and inept

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Speaker 1: in comparison to the old NBA. Obviously, the current players

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Speaker 1: don't win, current stars don't win. I think the only

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Speaker 1: winners are Jordan an NBC.

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Speaker 4: I'm just glad that Jordan didn't give the I wanted

603
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Speaker 4: the fans to make sure that they could see me argument. Well,

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Speaker 4: I know that maybe a valid argument to some. I

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Speaker 4: think that it takes responsibility off the players themselves, and

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Speaker 4: Jordan just saying I wanted to go out there and

607
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Speaker 4: compete is all that the other NBA players need to know.

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Speaker 4: I do think that there is a different time now

609
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Speaker 4: where we wait so much on championships, and maybe it's

610
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Speaker 4: because of Michael Jordan that we do that, where it

611
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Speaker 4: is trying to put yourself in the best possible spot

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Speaker 4: to be able to win a championship. So I do

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Speaker 4: think that that argument from the other side is fair.

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Speaker 4: But I just am glad that Jordan just took the

615
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Speaker 4: responsibility and said, essentially, I'm a competitor. I didn't want

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Speaker 4: to miss a game. I wanted to win at everything

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Speaker 4: that I could, And I don't think that that notion

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Speaker 4: is prevalent in the NBA at this point.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the one thing I will tell you

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Speaker 1: and I I'm gonna agree and then sort of disagree

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Speaker 1: with you. Dance to stick with me. I agree with

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Speaker 1: you that it feels like championships are way more like

623
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Speaker 1: we as media members have created this. If you didn't

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Speaker 1: win a championshi ship, you didn't do anything. And while

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00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: it was always a thing, it's even more so now

626
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Speaker 1: than it's ever been before. I will point out though,

627
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Speaker 1: that during the rise of Jordan, right, that was when

628
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Speaker 1: Magic and Bird were dominating the league and they were

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Speaker 1: judged purely based upon the number of championships won, and

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Speaker 1: Jordan was the guy that everyone said he's the best

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Speaker 1: player ever, but he's never won a championship, so we can't.

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00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: And then he started winning championships and you know, essentially

633
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Speaker 1: didn't lose one, with exception of the year that when

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Speaker 1: he returned uh, and he's wearing forty five. The point

635
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Speaker 1: I'm saying is, I think I agree with you in

636
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Speaker 1: that the twenty four to seven news cycle, which didn't

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Speaker 1: exist back then, has pushed even more so to the

638
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Speaker 1: championships or nothing. But it was a thing when he

639
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Speaker 1: was playing that solidified you as the all time greats

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Speaker 1: in terms of did you win a championship and number

641
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Speaker 1: of championships won. So again, it's probably smarter, right, it's

642
00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: probably smarter to do it this way. Here's the counterintuitive part,

643
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: the part that doesn't make sense. All of these doctors

644
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: are using data and saying you're more likely to get

645
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Speaker 1: injured if you play more. You have to manage. You

646
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: have to manage people's body, You have to manage the

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Speaker 1: amount of time in the court. What's crazy about it

648
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Speaker 1: is we didn't have this rash of Achilles injuries then.

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Speaker 1: We didn't. We didn't have guys missing games. It's really similar, Well,

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Speaker 1: this is a stretch. It's really similar to anything. Like

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Speaker 1: we didn't test for things back then, and it's no

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Speaker 1: different than like autism rates, like they're through the roof now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but we didn't test for it. We didn't have a

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Speaker 1: baseline and more things are considered autism now or or

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Speaker 1: mental health in terms of people doing harm to themselves

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Speaker 1: or committing suicide. We have more access to mental health

657
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Speaker 1: than we've ever had, and yet there's a greater mental

658
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Speaker 1: health crisis than we've ever had before. They have better medicine,

659
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Speaker 1: they travel better, taking care of better, they practice less,

660
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Speaker 1: the equipment is better, they play fewer games, and yet

661
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Speaker 1: there's more injuries. It doesn't make any sense. It is counterintuitive.

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Speaker 1: But last night none of that mattered to As people

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Speaker 1: who don't like Jordan will point out, they're right here

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Speaker 1: that Jordan helped Jordan last night. Jordan helped NBC last night.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody else is really helped last night.

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Speaker 1: As the Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, So we've

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Speaker 1: talked a lot about the Steelers in the preseason. Right

668
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Speaker 1: we were waiting on Aaron Rodgers to sign there, and

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Speaker 1: then we thought it was kind of curious that they

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Speaker 1: did all these deals where it feels like they're pushing

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Speaker 1: their chips all in. Then they get Aaron Rodgers and

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Speaker 1: then sort of uneven. The defense does not look does

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Speaker 1: not look good enough in terms of getting to the

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Speaker 1: quarterback I think that's a massive, massive issue. Doesn't look

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Speaker 1: good getting to the quarterback. That's something that's gonna hold

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Speaker 1: it back. And Aaron Rodgers looks good but still looks

677
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Speaker 1: forty and they basically have one weapon as a pass catcher.

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Speaker 1: It's a bit of a flawed team, not a terrible team,

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Speaker 1: not a great team. Here's Mike Tomlin, their longtime head coach,

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Speaker 1: analyzing their mid season report.

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Speaker 10: I don't think I like how we responded to the

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Speaker 10: explosion plays, phil flipping plays, drive producing conversion third downs

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Speaker 10: that happened in the third quarter. I didn't think our

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Speaker 10: offense responded very well to the non call on the

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Speaker 10: first third down of the half. And you know, you

686
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Speaker 10: don't always have control over what happens to your end game.

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Speaker 10: Rest assured some things are going to happen. There's ebb

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Speaker 10: and flow over the course of sixty minutes. But in

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Speaker 10: that instance, as a collective, we feel like we didn't

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Speaker 10: respond any the appropriate or the desired way. We didn't

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Speaker 10: smile in the face of it, we didn't produce the

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Speaker 10: type of plays that counteract those things and get the

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Speaker 10: balance back in our favor. And so we're certainly being

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Speaker 10: critical of ourselves, and we're utilizing that as fuel as

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Speaker 10: we prepare for our next opportunity. The first component of

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Speaker 10: fixing it is acknowledging it. You really don't get an

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Speaker 10: opportunity to fix it until you face those circumstances again,

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Speaker 10: and so we spend some time acknowledging it. We're going

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Speaker 10: to get back to work. We certainly believe that we

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Speaker 10: work in the right spirit, we do the right things environmentally.

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Speaker 10: We're going to get back to work, man and wait

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Speaker 10: for our opportunity to rectify it. You can spend a

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Speaker 10: lot of time talking about your ills, but the true

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Speaker 10: fixes come in stadiums, and so that's why sometimes I'm

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Speaker 10: somewhat hesitant to respond to the how do you fix it? Question?

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Speaker 10: There's certainly procedurally things that you go about doing that

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Speaker 10: fixes it, but the fix happens in stadium and the

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Speaker 10: rest of it is.

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Speaker 1: Just talk, all right, So he's talking about fixing it

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Speaker 1: at Manby. They're not perfect. Again. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: any of this does anything for the current Steelers other

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Speaker 1: than there was a lot of words salad there that

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Speaker 1: I I generally want to buy because I like Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Dan Yeah, it's like, hey, we

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Speaker 1: got this process of fixing it and blah blah blah

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. Like I like Mike Tom and

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Speaker 1: it sounds cool.

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Speaker 4: Sure, yes, I think he would give him the benefit

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Speaker 4: of the doubt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he really didn't say anything.

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Speaker 4: No. Yeah, also like they are only seven games into

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Speaker 4: their season, which isn't even halfway through the season right now.

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Speaker 1: Eighteen Oh, Dan will extract his pound of flesh whenever

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Speaker 1: that's all right to be possible.

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Speaker 4: I completely read your text wrong. That's why I was

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Speaker 4: so caught off guard during the midway. I was like,

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Speaker 4: what are you talking about, Doug, and I just yeah,

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Speaker 4: So it was it was all a combo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm totally okay with it, totally okay with it.

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Speaker 1: All Right's Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Let's welcome in Daniel Jeremiah. Of course, you can hear

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Speaker 1: DJ on the Move the Sticks podcast. You can see

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Speaker 1: him on the NFL Network. You don also hear him

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Speaker 1: on our sister station, Los Angeles Score. He broadcasts as

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Speaker 1: an analysts the LA Chargers games. I do want to

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Speaker 1: ask you about the Chargers. Dan Byer brought up a

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Speaker 1: really really good point, and it was, you know, Justin

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Speaker 1: Herbert has been this guy who doesn't have social media

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Speaker 1: out of the spotlight. Now he starts dating a young, talented,

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Speaker 1: famous woman, and back to back nights we se him

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Speaker 1: at the Laker game and then at the World Series game. Right,

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Speaker 1: is is this is this you know, a somebody telling

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Speaker 1: him he's got to be out in front of the

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Speaker 1: camera and represent all of Los Angeles. Are we pushing

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert to be somebody he's not?

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Speaker 2: I don't, you know, I don't know what the uh,

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Speaker 2: what the that specific situation is, but I would just say,

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Speaker 2: to me, it looks like he's just getting kind of

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Speaker 2: more comfortable. And I know usually when you have somebody

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Speaker 2: who's going out, you know during the season, you'll have

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Speaker 2: people question, oh, does this mean he's not putting it

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Speaker 2: in the time in or his focus and blah blah.

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Speaker 2: I would just say Herbert's like the smartest, most like

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Speaker 2: singularly focused guy. It probably in his case, is a

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Speaker 2: good thing to just kind of, you know, get away

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Speaker 2: for a second because he's been so obsessive. So I just,

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Speaker 2: from from where I stand, I look at that and say, okay,

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Speaker 2: somebody who's who's happy. He's sounds like he's found somebody

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Speaker 2: he likes and he's he's getting out a little bit

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Speaker 2: and and maybe that'll, you know, ease some of the

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Speaker 2: the internal pressure that he puts on himself.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: How much of it is is quality of competition? How

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Speaker 1: much of it is the Cantcy Chiefs figuring it out well.

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Speaker 2: I definitely think health is just the biggest component. You know,

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Speaker 2: they've just gotten healthier and that's you know, that's the

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Speaker 2: biggest thing. And I still don't think they're playing perfectly.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're putting up points, which is great to see,

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Speaker 2: but I still think there's another level that they can

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Speaker 2: get to. But you know, yeah, we'll see. As a

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Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to those two showdowns with Denver and

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Speaker 2: looking forward to that, you know, rematch with the Charges

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Speaker 2: a little bit later in the year. I think it's

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Speaker 2: the best division in football, and I think all three

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Speaker 2: of those teams it's going to be awesome matchups.

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Speaker 1: I completely agree Denver. Denver is a fascinating, fast dating watch.

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Speaker 1: There's talk in Indy of extending Danny Dimes of giving

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Speaker 1: him a new contract, would you do that?

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Speaker 2: I think so. I don't think that this is something

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Speaker 2: that's not repeatable, and I think it's very sustainable, and

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Speaker 2: I don't think that price is going to go down.

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Speaker 2: So I could understand that if they wanted to try

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Speaker 2: and do it now, thinking they would get a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a discount versus what it would be at

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Speaker 2: the end of the year. I saw that team in

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Speaker 2: person and studied that team, and the way he's playing

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Speaker 2: is there's nothing really fluky about it. You know, they've

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Speaker 2: got good pieces around him. They've got a good play

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Speaker 2: caller there in Shane Stiken, But you know he's making

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Speaker 2: all the throws. He's playing with toys accurate. He can

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Speaker 2: move round if you need him too. And I don't

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Speaker 2: think that offense asked him to be the star Jonathan

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Speaker 2: Taylor is that. But I think you have to pay

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Speaker 2: a little bit more than you're paint of now to

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Speaker 2: keep them going forward. And that price with quarterbacks never

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Speaker 2: goes down.

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Speaker 1: No, it does not, It really doesn't. It really really

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Speaker 1: really doesn't. This is the Doug Gottlib Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. That's the voice of Daniel Jeremiah Move the

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Speaker 1: sticks is in fact is the podcast Baltimore wins with

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Speaker 1: Snoop Huntley at quarterback. Looks like Lamar Jackson is going

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Speaker 1: to be back. They go to Miami, who the offense

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Speaker 1: continue to play well, defense is not great. But big

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Speaker 1: stretch here for the Ravens. Dolphins in the road, Bye week,

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Speaker 1: Vikings in the road, and Browns in the road. Three

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Speaker 1: games that on paper you should win, but they haven't

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Speaker 1: won games in the football field. Where are you on

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Speaker 1: the Ravens as they said at two and five, but

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Speaker 1: get the quarterback healthy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's lined up for him really well.

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Speaker 2: You know, when you look at the schedule going all

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Speaker 2: the way through the rest of the year, there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of wins on there. So I think they're getting

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Speaker 2: Lamar back at just the right time. And more so

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Speaker 2: maybe than the Ravens. I think it's the fact that

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Speaker 2: the Steelers had this thing kind of on a t

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Speaker 2: for them and they couldn't they couldn't put it away.

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Speaker 2: So I think at one in five where they were

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Speaker 2: before last week, you're sitting here going, oh, this is rough,

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Speaker 2: But then you look at the schedule and then you

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Speaker 2: just have no confidence that Pittsburgh's gonna run away and hide.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaking of Pittsburgh, obviously we saw them against the

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. Let's start with well, let's start with

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. I got to tell you. The most disappointing

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Speaker 1: part is the defense. The offense is a weird mix.

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Speaker 1: Is yet no pressure at all on Jordan Love?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 2: They can't. I mean, here's the thing. You're not going

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Speaker 2: to get pressure when you've got guys wide open the

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Speaker 2: entire game. So I think this is a linebacker back

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Speaker 2: end issue more even than a pressure issue. You don't

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Speaker 2: have time to get home and Douglas throwing five yard

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Speaker 2: flat routes Tucker Kraft and they can't get them on

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Speaker 2: the ground and they turn into explosive plays. It's one

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Speaker 2: of the worst tackling defenses in the NFL, which is

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Speaker 2: just not the way the Steelers have have played football

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Speaker 2: for the last thirty years.

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Speaker 1: No, not at all. Okay, let's get let's go to

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Speaker 1: the Packers. How real is that fourth quarter?

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Speaker 8: You know?

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Speaker 2: Look, I think that they have everything that they need there.

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Speaker 2: It's just there's never a there's never a straight path

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00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 2: in these seasons. You go up, you go down. But

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Speaker 2: when you see them, when they are in those moments

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Speaker 2: and they're high. They can be the best team in football.

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Speaker 2: So I I'm I'm very bullish on them. You know,

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Speaker 2: once you once you look at where they're going and

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Speaker 2: what they have. I think they have absolutely everything that

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Speaker 2: they need.

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Speaker 1: This is the Doug Gottlieb Show. That is Daniel Jeremiah.

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Speaker 1: He's joining us now on the Doug Gottlieb Show on

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Okay, let's uh, let's let's get to

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Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks. They're at five and two, and again

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Speaker 1: I'll lean on Buyer because he's our Seahawks fan. Plus

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00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 1: he's worth he's watch. But he's like, look, Sam Donald

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00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: still Sam Donald, right, and you and I love him,

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00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: but he still will make just a bizarre turnover every

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Speaker 1: now and again. We're just like, what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: They come off the bye week. This week they go

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Speaker 1: to the Commanders that are all banged up, Cardinals winnable

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Speaker 1: game at home, to the Rams, to the Titans, Vikings

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Speaker 1: at home Falcons. I want to get to the Falcons

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Speaker 1: in a second. But how good are the Seahawks really?

864
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: I think there's a couple holes that they have, including

865
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: one of the guard spots, which We'll see if they

866
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: do anything to address that. But I think on the whole,

867
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 2: I think Sam is you know, yeah, maybe a play

868
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: here or there, but on the whole, he played really,

869
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 2: really well, and I feel like he does get held

870
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: to a little bit of a different standard. We don't

871
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: talk about Mahomes with a couple hiccups here or there,

872
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 2: you know, some dumb turnovers. I feel like that anytime

873
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 2: Sam does that, there's a little bit of the there

874
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: it is, you know, a moment. But I think overwhelmingly,

875
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: for going on a year and a half now, he's

876
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: played it a very high level. I think that defensively,

877
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 2: their front is excellent. Just in terms of the depths.

878
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: Leonard Williams is playing awesome, Murphy's been stud dt. I

879
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 2: would yeah, they could get a big time, big time

880
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 2: edge rusher. They don't have that, but they've got about

881
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 2: four or five guys they roll through there who are

882
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: really good. And the secondary is has got some playmakers

883
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 2: back there. They need to get healthy. They didn't get

884
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 2: with usmim back. But yeah, I think they're they might

885
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: pick to win that division. And I'm not going to

886
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: come off of that.

887
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: What's happened to the falcons man. Again, I understand, you know,

888
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins generally washed, right, That's that's kind of my

889
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: takeaway when I watch him. But when Pennix was there,

890
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: like he didn't look great. I just I'm I think

891
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: I'm surprised at how especially how they played Sunday. But

892
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 1: but what they've kind of morphed into, are you Yeah.

893
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I try and give you

894
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 2: a good answer on these, but this one, I don't

895
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 2: know what that team is like it's a checko on

896
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 2: high team gets shut out by the Panthers.

897
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 10: You know, a while.

898
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: Back he lay and egg again. I know it was

899
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 2: with Cousins, but lay an egg there and then they

900
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: can come out and in one week just run the

901
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 2: ball down your throats and you know, get all kinds

902
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 2: of pressure on the quarterback. And I don't know, I

903
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: don't know whether than to say that it's just kind

904
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 2: of an immature team that lacks any consistency. But I

905
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 2: mean they are you know, the Forrest Gump in the line,

906
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: you know, the box of chocolates every week when they

907
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 2: come on, you have no idea what you're gonna get.

908
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: None, zero, zilch zip, nada, zero ziltch zip nada. Did

909
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: Minnesota make a mistake in their quarterback decisions?

910
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 2: Well, you know, let's let's see McCarthy play, you know,

911
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 2: a good stretch before we can say that. But you know,

912
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: people forget last year it was Daniel Jones and Sam

913
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: Darnold in that building, you know, and you look at

914
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 2: all the other pieces they have With either one of

915
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 2: those guys playing quarterback for him right now, going through

916
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: this year, I think they'd be in a completely different place.

917
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 2: But I don't want to you know, I don't I

918
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 2: don't want to bear McCarthy. We haven't seen enough of

919
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 2: him yet, so let's get him back healthy and see

920
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 2: what he looks like. But yeah, I would think there's

921
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: a there's there's a peak curiosity to see how this

922
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: turns out because they had two really talented guys and

923
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 2: they're building not too long ago.

924
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: Uh does the comeback for the Jets change anything about

925
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: how you viewed justin fields Now?

926
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: I think he's pretty well established, you know, and you

927
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 2: just take it for what it is, and it's just

928
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: a hard way to consistently win football games with that

929
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: play style. So I think at the end of the day,

930
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: he's a really good backup, but you know, nothing they

931
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 2: can do to solve that problem. Now, I don't love

932
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 2: the owner, you know, going out and publicly saying what

933
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 2: he said. I just thought that was kind of a

934
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: little bit bush league. But you know, I get the

935
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 2: frustration there at that time. You haven't won a game,

936
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 2: but you just don't. I'm not used to seeing that

937
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 2: from an owner. That was that was That was a

938
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 2: rough one.

939
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, bush league. No, No, it's the Jets. Joe Douglas

940
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: can tell you like they they have core. They and

941
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: the Browns of Corn, of the mark on Bush Lake.

942
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: That's just that's what they do. That's who they are,

943
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: all right, DJ. Last thing, how are Chargers? I mean

944
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: obviously really good on Thursday night, Get the week off,

945
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: to get right, get healthy, give me the status report.

946
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: I think Joel, you saw what difference he makes. I

947
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 2: mean he unlocked a run game. He gave Herbert some time.

948
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 2: You look up and all of a sudden, that team

949
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 2: over the last years, a lot of really good young players.

950
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 2: And you're seeing gatst in the tight ends and been

951
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: playing great. You know, Viydell while he's filling in at

952
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 2: the second year. Guys put up a couple of hundred

953
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 2: yard games, Trey Harris, the rookie scores. You know mcconkee

954
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 2: in year two. You know, they've got a lot of

955
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 2: young guys that you would think just because of you know,

956
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 2: how new they are to the league, not just the Chargers,

957
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 2: that they're need to get better.

958
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: You're the best brother. Thanks so much for joining us.

959
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: Look forward to you. Obviously you enjoyed one weekend and off.

960
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: Now you get another weekend off, right, So I mean

961
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: you're just having I mean, just living the life.

962
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 2: Jersey, you know, just just enjoying life.

963
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: Wow, you are a you are a hater. I was

964
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: just you know, I should have looked you up. I

965
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: was in del Mar for a couple of nights this weekend.

966
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: So nice. Oh it does not, It does not. Uh,

967
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: you're the best brother. Thanks for joining us. Anybody, It's

968
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. I think

969
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: what I love about Dana and Jeremiah, and this is funny,

970
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: is I did I spent like two days in Diego

971
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: over the weekend. Dan and I felt guilty about It's like, look,

972
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 1: I needed a couple of days season starting. Had dinner

973
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: with my brother and a couple of you know, a

974
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: couple others, and we I sit down at sushi on

975
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: Sunday night and one of the channels has his dad preaching.

976
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, shoot, I didn't look up DJ and

977
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,959
Speaker 1: I'm right down the street of his house. But here's

978
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: the brilliance the DJ when he's NFL Network only before

979
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: he got the Chargers job, he never moved. He's like, look,

980
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: I like san Diego. I'm living in San Diego. I'm

981
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: not moving. And you know what, if you've been to

982
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: San Diego and you're set there, I don't blame yet.

983
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: I don't blame you.

984
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 4: It's a nice spot.

985
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: Oh it doesn't suck. It doesn't suck at all. Opposite

986
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: whatever suck is, it's the opposite of that. That's probably

987
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: the best way toward it. This is the Doug Gottlieb Show.

988
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: You heard the voice of Dan Byer. You'll hear more

989
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 1: from him up coming here on the show on Fox

990
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: Sports Radio.