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Speaker 1: Live from the Mercedes Finz Interview Lounge.

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Speaker 2: We always love it when Morocca shows up and eat

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Speaker 2: our catering.

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Speaker 3: Yes we specific they got it for him, though.

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Speaker 2: We got the crunchy chicken sandwiches for you. And he

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Speaker 2: walks in and Moses, I'm sorry, I'm wearing a vissil line.

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Speaker 2: I can't do that.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, but don't you take it out so you

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Speaker 4: can eat and then put a bait.

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Speaker 1: That's what they tell you. It's a prison. This is

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Speaker 1: the first warning I've had it, and it's a prison.

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Speaker 2: Oh, this is day one.

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Speaker 1: This is day one. This is the first time I've

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Speaker 1: been interviewed wearing it.

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Speaker 4: You can hear it.

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Speaker 1: You've been totally right. I sound like even more like

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Speaker 1: Daffy Doc.

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Speaker 2: You know you sound like Miley Cyrus.

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Speaker 5: I'm getting a vissiline in a week and I can't

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Speaker 5: wait to ken like Miley Irish.

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Speaker 2: I'm so rish.

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Speaker 1: She happened disiline?

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Speaker 2: Is that what she sounds like that?

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Speaker 3: I think it's Veneer, but I'm not here.

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Speaker 1: No, I know I sound like a cat, so which

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Speaker 1: is fine.

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Speaker 2: So fine, don't don't that's fine.

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Speaker 3: I think you sound great, but.

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Speaker 1: It's just it is a lifetime sentence. And I just

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Speaker 1: this morning, I just I just thought, I wish that

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Speaker 1: I could be like Rip van Winkle and just go

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Speaker 1: to sleep for twenty years and have somebody gently replace

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Speaker 1: the cartridges in my mouth every two weeks, and then

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Speaker 1: wake up and be Matt Damon.

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Speaker 2: That's how he did it.

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Speaker 6: That what was the decision, mo, that you decided at

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Speaker 6: this point in your life?

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Speaker 1: You know what time for? In Vizzilon, my dentist said

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Speaker 1: that there was one tooth I can't remember, not the canine.

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Speaker 1: I always the canine makes me laugh. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what this one is called. That was sort of drifting

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Speaker 1: in a weird place. It was sort of becoming a

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Speaker 1: snaggle tooth, which I wouldn't have mine dead. And I didn.

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Speaker 2: I snaggle tooth because you know, I'll tell you why.

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Speaker 2: I'll finish your story then i'll know.

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Speaker 1: I just was thinking, Also, did Snaggleplus have a snaggle tooth? Oh?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, go plus.

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Speaker 2: There's fifteen people in here.

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Speaker 1: No, No, he wasn't Flintstones. He was Hannah Barbara, but

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Speaker 1: he was he's a a cartoon cat. Okay, Yes, everyone

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Speaker 1: knows him.

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Speaker 2: Because he was flamboyant. Doesn't mean he liked other male cats.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that he was a chim cat who

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Speaker 1: liked other tomcats.

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Speaker 5: So he has a very straight set of I mean

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Speaker 5: his teeth are very both of them.

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Speaker 2: What what what?

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize he was gay.

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Speaker 2: We don't know. He's a cartoon character. They said he's gay.

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Speaker 1: Okay, he's gay, Like at this point, he's wikipedia gay.

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Speaker 7: Taylor. He did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was very much like Grip Tailor. He was

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Speaker 1: very much like Rip Tailor.

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Speaker 2: So I had him vis a line and I kept

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Speaker 2: going out to dinner and leaving them at the restaurant.

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Speaker 2: So it was thousands of dollars later. I'm like, that is.

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Speaker 1: A crazyly expensive bad habits.

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Speaker 2: That's why I still have crooked teeth. Moy, did you.

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Speaker 3: Just get regular braces? You could just have a good time.

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Speaker 2: It looked like Bobby Brady.

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Speaker 3: I love it. Yeah, I love braces.

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Speaker 2: So Morock is here. We got a celebrate several things.

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Speaker 2: First of all, your book is out in several months.

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Speaker 2: I've seen this on your one of your social media accounts.

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Speaker 2: This is book two, Bally book three? Oh really?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So mobituaries that beautiful beautiful book and think, but there

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Speaker 2: was one before that.

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Speaker 1: Then it was I wrote a book about called All

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Speaker 1: the President's Pets, the story of one reporter who refused

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Speaker 1: to roll over. It was sort of a cross between

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Speaker 1: Charlotte's webbon the Da Vinci Code. I took all of

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Speaker 1: the of the presidential pets, actual presidential pets who had

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Speaker 1: lived in the White House, because basically I had this

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Speaker 1: store of unusable knowledge. And an agent came to me

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Speaker 1: and said, do you have a book in you? And

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Speaker 1: I said, well, I know everything about all the pets

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Speaker 1: who have lived in the White House. And he said,

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Speaker 1: what can you do with that? And so I created

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Speaker 1: a thriller about it was actually doing it. Where do you?

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Speaker 2: All?

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Speaker 1: Twelve people who read it can tell you all about it.

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Speaker 1: But I loved it that it was. Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 2: About it's gonna be my beach reading this year.

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Speaker 1: I'd be very curious to see what you think after

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Speaker 1: you You'll be like, wait, I had no idea. I

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Speaker 1: took peyod before I read this, But yes, it was

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Speaker 1: a thriller about a white house. I wrote it in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and four, where all the decisions were actually

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Speaker 1: being made by White House pets of the past. They

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Speaker 1: all were living forever on the South Lawn. It was

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Speaker 1: pretty freaky, but it was really fun.

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Speaker 2: To write, you know we I mean when you has

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Speaker 2: this been a lifelong thing with you since you were

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Speaker 2: a kid. Your imagination has just been a vital best

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Speaker 2: friend of yours the whole time, because your imagination is

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Speaker 2: vivid and fantastic and all those words.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you. Yeah, I think it is. And I

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Speaker 1: think my father really really nurtured that and supported it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think he really he Yes, absolutely, just if you

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Speaker 1: go with the idea and just keep pursuing it, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I'm happy about that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I wonder how many parents have kids, maybe

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Speaker 2: several kids, but there's that one child of theirs that

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Speaker 2: is just always coming up with great stories, maybe lies

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Speaker 2: about imaginary friends or whatever, but they're just so interestingly

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Speaker 2: multi layered as a kid. And to be able to

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Speaker 2: have a child like that, nurture that, like your dad did, ye,

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Speaker 2: nurture that. Let's have kids. Let's have kids. All I'm

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Speaker 2: not doing it, County, Let's have kids.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, baby, you would have been a great Jeopardy host,

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Speaker 5: Thank you very much, and the best one.

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Speaker 3: You need to go and reset this.

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Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you and I'm not just being a

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Speaker 1: flatterer here when I when I did do and I

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Speaker 1: think I told you guys about this last time when

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Speaker 1: I did do Celebrity Jeopardy, I mean I was really

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Speaker 1: impressed by Ken Jennings and I don't I mean, maybe

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Speaker 1: that seems obvious, but it's you know, manning those controls

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Speaker 4: And he started out as a contestant, great contestant.

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Speaker 3: It's so crazy to me.

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Speaker 2: And he made the leap. Look at that. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: was watching him the other day. I was thinking, he

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Speaker 2: seems very polished for someone who is not from that world. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but now he's winning it. He's doing it really well.

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Speaker 2: By the way, just turning us on Morocca is here

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Speaker 2: from CBO well CBS Sunday Morning. But so many other

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Speaker 2: things you do, and so we always love when you

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Speaker 2: visit us, and you he always I tell you. Mo

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Speaker 2: and I hung out at jingle Ball backstage at the

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Speaker 2: Garden and the only thing he wanted was a Krispy

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Speaker 2: Chicken sandwich. So our friends from Green Goes brought Chrispy

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Speaker 2: Chicken sandwiches just for you today.

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Speaker 1: That I am so honored, and they were amazing, and Gandhi,

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Speaker 1: the taco that you created was also great.

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Speaker 3: Yes, my taco, I thank you.

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Speaker 1: Mo.

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Speaker 3: I wish I would have created it. They created it.

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Speaker 5: But I went so many times, probably like three or

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Speaker 5: four times a week to get that taco during the

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Speaker 5: pandemic that they said, oh my god, we're gonna name

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Speaker 5: this thing after you. But now I should take all

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Speaker 5: the credit. I wish, But it's a good one.

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Speaker 2: Is there a dish at a New York restaurant they

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Speaker 2: should probably name after you because you eat it all

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Speaker 2: the time?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Well, I you know it's funny. I always go

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Speaker 1: for this sort of chicken and avocado RepA, you know,

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Speaker 1: at a Venezuelan place or Eighth Street. That's really great. Uh,

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Speaker 1: And I'm not sure, you know, I'm still looking for

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Speaker 1: and I know everyone hates this word. I'm still looking

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Speaker 1: for a very moist barbecue chicken froggy.

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Speaker 2: He said the word. I'm going to let that go.

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Speaker 1: It's sort of like a jar where I had to

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Speaker 1: drop a quarter. Now that that really is disgusting. I'm

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Speaker 1: not putting my viciline in there that will just grow.

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Speaker 1: It'll see monkeys will be crawling out of it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So the so the Morocco I'm into those.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the Morocca.

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Speaker 2: I love them. It's it isn't what you think. If

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Speaker 1: P A. And by the way, you know that that

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Speaker 1: Michael Booble and aren't they They're great And when they

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Speaker 1: oh God, please don't let it be Boo Bullo. It's yeah,

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Speaker 2: It was so long ago, you know what. Interviewing guys

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Speaker 2: like that is easy because they really you just pull

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Speaker 2: the string and they go, like Chattie Cathy, remember, is

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Speaker 2: it like that with you? I Mean there are some

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Speaker 2: people who it's like pulling friggin teeth out of them.

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Speaker 2: But sometimes you just say idea and they go with it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, But the I think oftentimes the decisive factor is

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Speaker 1: how they feel about the show. So if they come

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Speaker 1: into it saying they love CBS Sunday Morning, or if

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Speaker 1: they in fact love the show longtime watchers, it just

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Speaker 1: greases the wheels. It's so much easier. And that's why

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Speaker 1: your interview, like so many with Michael and Jason, was

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Speaker 1: just so easy because they love you and love the show.

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Speaker 2: I guess so CBS Sunday Morning, by the way, I've

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Speaker 2: always thought it's always been the best show on TV,

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Speaker 2: and people really are up on Sunday Morning, says yes.

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Speaker 3: He talks to us about it every time. Did you

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Speaker 3: watch CBS Sunday Night this week?

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Speaker 2: Rarely an episode goes by what I don't shed it

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Speaker 2: here of laughter or sadness or whatever.

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Speaker 4: You can be laughing or crying at your piece.

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Speaker 2: We don't know if there's gonna be piece you. I

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Speaker 2: don't see a flo I don't see a story for me.

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Speaker 2: I don't see a story for there.

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Speaker 1: If there is a story there, but I think you

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Speaker 1: won't be laughing, you won't be crying. You'll be in shock.

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Speaker 7: Them so so Mo and Michelle, I mean, the entire

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Speaker 7: incredible crew from CBS came all the way it is

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Speaker 7: Santa Fe, New Mexico, and we got to hang out

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Speaker 7: with each other.

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Speaker 2: We went out to dinner with each other. Mo and

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Speaker 2: I actually had fisticuffs about he pushed me.

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Speaker 3: Excellent.

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Speaker 2: What we were doing a walk in talk where you're walking,

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Speaker 2: the camera's way away, there's a catch you talking and

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Speaker 2: we had to walk past the camera and he pushed me.

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Speaker 2: I said, why are you pushing me? He says, I

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Speaker 2: was afraid you were going to stop in front of

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Speaker 6: Why are these like there's only a couple of these

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Speaker 2: That's what I love about it. That's what I love

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Speaker 1: I see what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: He was like, well, let's walk and talk him out

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Speaker 2: You'll never be a legend in TV journalism. We no,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm doing my job. Like you know, you

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Speaker 2: Well, at this point I.

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Speaker 2: We still let the game about twenty three? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, well why don't we just to wrap things up?

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Speaker 1: We leave you now with Nate pushing Mo out of

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Speaker 2: So oh he's rolling about. Are you really got to

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Speaker 3: In your time? That is a good question.

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Speaker 2: Time. Have you ever like you have follow up question, have.

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Speaker 4: You ever filmed really quickly? Have you ever filmed like

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Speaker 3: You know, the longer you wait, the more likelihood.

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Speaker 1: As I said, we are like we are on such

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Speaker 2: You always you always leave the room a lot smarter

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