1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: I love how nervous you are about this. It's literally 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: you're doing the exact same thing, just for longer. 3 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 2: Let me start with the intro part and we'll jettison 4 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: into whatever. 5 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 3: You want to do. 6 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: Hey, thank god you're here. It's another one. 7 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 3: What's it called. 8 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: Thinking out loud? Here? You are so glad you're listening. 9 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why everyone loves Jesse Tyler Ferguson. 10 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 2: You love him on Modern Family. Of course, he just 11 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: finished up doing Take Me Out on Broadway, which is 12 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: an amazing funny play. He was great in that. But 13 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: now he's got his podcast called Dinners on Me, and 14 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: I want to talk to him about that and find 15 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 2: out who does he think he is doing a podcast 16 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: interviewing people, That's what I do. He's an actor, he 17 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: reads scripts. But you know what, it's a very good podcast, 18 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: and he's got a lot of star power in Los 19 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 2: Angeles to pull out people that we dream of having. 20 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: On this one, we're going to talk about things he's 21 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: afraid of, like doing a podcast, doing things he's never 22 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: done before, being in front of a live audience. Also, 23 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: my favorite part of this will be when you hear 24 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: him talk about what it was like wrapping up eleven 25 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: seasons of modern Family. It's a story that I don't 26 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: think it has ever been told, and we hear it here today. 27 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 2: It's fantastic. Jesse Tyler Ferguson. 28 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,919 Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, podcast friend. 29 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 2: You know you have a podcast. You're going to teach 30 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 2: me how to do a podcast? Exactly where do we start? 31 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 2: Where do we start? 32 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 3: Where do we start? Are you serious? 33 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 34 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. 35 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: Well, first you set up your phone like you just did, 36 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: and you start a timer. Yes, and you make sure 37 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: that you can talk for at least forty five minutes? 38 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: Is it forty five? No? 39 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 3: How long are your podcast? We go like thirty to 40 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 3: forty five? 41 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: Right? 42 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: Okay, see, mind's a little longer the way that I'm doing. 43 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: So, yeah, do you want me to just like launch 44 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: it and tell you, like, well, my Batley podcast. 45 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: I want you to do the podcast. I'll just say to. 46 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: Do the podcast for you, just say that's why I'm here. 47 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: I see, thanks for showing up. 48 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: Ye. Yeah. So when you first started doing dinners on me, 49 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: that's right, did anyone look at you and go, okay, 50 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: we're in the podcast world. Listen, here's what we think 51 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 2: you should do. And they gave you a little background. 52 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: Right, we'll get you so that this concept was actually 53 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: brought to me. It was it was something that was 54 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: pitched to me. 55 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 3: I never wanted. 56 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,119 Speaker 1: I never thought I would do a podcast. That never 57 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: was I wasn't looking to do one. I was about 58 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: to say I didn't want to do one, but that's 59 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: not true because I'm actually doing one and I'm enjoying 60 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: it immensely. But it was a concept that sort of 61 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: existed in the brains of these producers over at Sony 62 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: and Neon Hum and they thought I might be a 63 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: good idea to match up with it, and so they 64 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: pitched this idea to me, and I really liked it. 65 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: It takes it sort of straddles the world of the 66 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: culinary world and in a long form interview with a celebrity. 67 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: So I take these groups different people out to I'll 68 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: say groups of people, but it's only one on one. 69 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: But there's a group of people that I have taken 70 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: out to different restaurants, and we just have a really 71 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: nice conversation over a great meal, and. 72 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 3: We talked about the restaurant we're at. We talked about 73 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: the chef. 74 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: You hear us order you hear us talk about the 75 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: food we're eating, but then beyond that, it's just a 76 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: really great conversation. 77 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: So backing up, when you have friends at the house, yeah, 78 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: do you refine yourself in just regular conversation interviewing them? 79 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 2: I mean, do you have interview conversations. I have many 80 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: friends who are like I feel like I'm being interviewed sometimes, 81 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: but they're just great conversationalist. Yeah, yeah, yeah, are you 82 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: that way? 83 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: No? 84 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: But now that I have this job, I find myself 85 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: not like practicing on my friends, but like, you know, 86 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: definitely trying to get into that mode of like delving 87 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: further into an idea than I might have before. It 88 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: has made me a more curious person for sure. 89 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. I have this one friend who's a restaurant owner 90 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: in Santa Fe. Okay, he just sold it, but anyway, 91 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: he would come out to each and every table and 92 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: he would put his hand on your shoulder. Yeah, and 93 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: just he would start. It was like a magical moment 94 00:03:58,760 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: with him. 95 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: Was his name? 96 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: He owned the bull Ring, the Steake Cash what elevis? Yeah, 97 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: where have you been? I said, Well, you know, we 98 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: were on vacation last week's we weren't in it. Where'd 99 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: you go? Yeah, and then it begins we were in Maui. 100 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 2: I love Maui, my daughter got married, there were you? 101 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: Where are you in Mali? And then it begins. 102 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: It's like politicians are the same way. They they figure 103 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: out like something that you have in common and they 104 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: latch onto that and they are great conversationalists mostly. 105 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, for sure. 106 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: I uh. You know. 107 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: Julie Bowen always had this phrase that she would say, 108 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: you know, a conversa you want a conversation highway? Right now, 109 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: we're in a conversation culd a sac like we went 110 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: a highway right, you know. And she's a great conversationalist. 111 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: She was my first guest on my podcast actually, and 112 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: I was so relieved that she was because she could 113 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: literally hold a two hour conversation with the tree Like 114 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: she's just like she's inquisitive, and she's like even if 115 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: she's not getting a lot back from you, she's gonna like, 116 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: you know, just keep the conversation going. And she's just 117 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: a great conversationalist. So I love that that concept of 118 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: finding a conversation highway. 119 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: You know. I spoke with Mo Rocca. We were talking 120 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: about this earlier on the previous podcast, and he was 121 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: going to do an interview with Eva Maurice Saint okay, 122 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 2: and he had heard that she just wasn't the best conversations. 123 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 2: He's like, oh great, here we go, Okay, I have 124 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 2: to do an interview with someone who doesn't like to 125 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,119 Speaker 2: be interviewed. So he said, what I thought of doing 126 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 2: in a brilliant idea. He was looking at her bio 127 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 2: or whatever. He discovered she was born on July fourth, okay. 128 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 2: So his opening question was what was it like celebrating 129 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 2: your birthday with fire tis? And she immediately opened up. 130 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: Oh interesting. 131 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 2: The smile came on her face. She said, you know what, 132 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: that's so great. You asked me that my dad used 133 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: to tell me those fireworks for me for my birthday 134 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: and so and then it'd be great icebreaker. 135 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 3: You know. It's so interesting because. 136 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: You, as as someone who gets interviewed a lot, you 137 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: do hear a lot of the same questions over and 138 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: over and over. And that's not a fault of the 139 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: interviewer like that. These are questions that I think people 140 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: want to know. But there does become a point where 141 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,239 Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, how how do I answer 142 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:10,679 Speaker 1: this question? 143 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: In a new way. 144 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: So when you find that's a great example of the fireworks, 145 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: like something that she probably had never been asked before, 146 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: and it was immediately prompted a fresh answer and then 147 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: a great conversation I'm sure follow it afterwards. And so like, 148 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: I'm trying to do the same thing with these people 149 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: who I'm sitting down with, and you know, I get 150 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: like six pages of research on them, and I can 151 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: kind of tell just from the research that's done, like 152 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: what they've probably talked about a lot. And it's not 153 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: that I want to avoid those those topics completely, but 154 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: I want to find a different way into them or 155 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: find like maybe an angle that they haven't come out 156 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: that story from. So that's sort of my job before 157 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: sitting down with these people. And then every once in 158 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: a while, you'll get someone who has done very few interviews, 159 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: and that's really exciting because it's like, oh, I got 160 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: to sort of like see what this person's all about 161 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: and hopefully introduce some facts about this person to the world. 162 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 2: Being interviewed is a that is the most frightening thing 163 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: in the world to me, because I mean, I'm always 164 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 2: the interviewer, yeah, always, So when I had a book 165 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: come out several years ago. I had to go out 166 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: and do the press this and that, and I would 167 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: I would get nervous. It was weird having the tables turned. 168 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm the exact opposite way, Like it's it's a new 169 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: thing for me to be the interviewer. So yeah, I 170 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: totally understand what you're saying. 171 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 172 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: And then the other argument is, well, you are a 173 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: guy who reads scripts and sometimes ask to improv off 174 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: scripted material and there's an outline for what they want 175 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: you to do in front of a camera or whatever. 176 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: Now there is no script. I mean you could have 177 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: prep and some research, right, there's no script. 178 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: It's it's improv You're improving for over an hour, and 179 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: that's scary to like kind of fly without an at 180 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: I love having a script, you know. I I don't 181 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: know if I am the greatest improver, but I do 182 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: feel like I am a good conversationalist. 183 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: Well, and that's it, It's just a conversation. 184 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 185 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: Another thing I love about interviewing people when you find 186 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: the great storytellers, Yes, they really understand the concept of 187 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: here's the opening picture exactly, here's the meat and potatoes, 188 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: and then dessert and payoff great storytellers. We can't get 189 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: enough of those. 190 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: Tell me a story, you want me to tell you 191 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 3: a story. 192 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: I know it doesn't work that way, but yeah, people 193 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: who have that magical way of telling the story. My 194 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: dad was an unbelievable storyteller and it was always humorous. 195 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: It was always like down home Texas. And I never 196 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 2: could really master that, and he never really was. He 197 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 2: wanted to be proud of his son. The guy who 198 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: could tell the story. Never could, right, So I went 199 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: into radio instead. 200 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 201 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: My grandpa he is, you know, was. He's no longer 202 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: with us, but he's Irish and he but just he was. 203 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: That says a effeck right there. He was. He was 204 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: the guy that would always stand up and like tell 205 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: a limerick or reside a poem or tell a really 206 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: great story after, you know, at dinner. And so I 207 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: feel like I have a little bit of him and 208 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: me for sure. 209 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: Well, Okay, in addition to acting, you said earlier, you've 210 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: done other things. You hosted a James several James Beard events. 211 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 3: Yes. 212 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: Yes, the James Beards are basically like the Oscars for 213 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: the culinary. And it's so funny because I made that 214 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: reference during the event that I hosted for them, but 215 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: I called I called the Emmys the James Beards of 216 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: the TV world. Okay, appreciate it, I'm sure, because you know, 217 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: they're always being compared to, like you know, the Oscars 218 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: are the Emmys. But anyways, it was It's a room 219 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: full of just the top of the top of the 220 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: people in the culinary world, chefs and restauranteurs and small 221 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: a's and it was a very fancy room to be 222 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: in and a group of people who I respect immensely, 223 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: and hosting that that event for them that meant so 224 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 1: much to them was really nerve wracking. 225 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: Well that's why I wanted to go there. So when 226 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 2: you don't have a script there, but they have, they 227 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 2: have an outline what they want you to do. 228 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 3: I definitely scripted some stuff for myself. 229 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're up there and it is it's a 230 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: live crowd nerve wrecking, really, yes. 231 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: And it was the first time sort of doing like 232 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: a big hosting a big awards show. It wasn't televised, 233 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: of course, but like I was in a big auditorium 234 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: and it was you know, I was managing the audience 235 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: and keeping things moving and it was really fun and 236 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: it would do terrified. I did very well. Yeah, yes, 237 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: well they had me back twice because I did so good. 238 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: So I know I did a good job. And I 239 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: can't say that with confidence and I'm not being an egomaniac. 240 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 3: I did a very very good job. 241 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 2: Well, good for you. I mean, live audiences scare the 242 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 2: shit out of it. 243 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 3: Oh they're terrified. 244 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 2: I mean, we'll host our big jingle ball concerts at 245 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: Radio City Musical or no, no, at the Madson Square Gardens. 246 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 3: Sure, I've been to one of those jingle balls. 247 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: The thing is about those is everyone's in the dark. 248 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 2: There's fifty thousand of them. It doesn't matter. But if 249 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 2: you're in a room. 250 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: Full of people you who are actually paying attention, Yeah, 251 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: we'll talk about like that's what theater is mean, people 252 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: actually paying attention to what you're saying. But you know 253 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: it's scripted again, so exactly, and I rehearsed well for it. 254 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 1: But going up on rehearse scripted is it's terrifying. Did 255 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: you watch Jury Duty? 256 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 3: Oh? 257 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 2: Absolutely, we had we had him on you Donald on yes, 258 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 2: six six Donald, he was the Nico. 259 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: And what I mean, I just I would love to 260 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: meet him. He's so wonderful and sweet and the heart 261 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: of that show. But that you know, I thought a 262 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: lot about that show was completely improvided, improvised based, and 263 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: you know, these these actors, who are all great medians 264 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: and greatizers, were brilliant, like went with whatever story they 265 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: thought they needed to go with. But like I had 266 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: such anxiety as an actor watching that because like I 267 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: was looking at James Marsden, who is a great improviser 268 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 1: as well, but like he was the most like kind 269 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: of I guess, you know, if you're going to categorize 270 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: one of them as like, uh uh, mostly an actor, 271 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: it was you know him, like he's not necessarily that's 272 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: not where he lives in Breeze and in the improv world, 273 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: and I was just having so much anxiety for him 274 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: having to sort of like navig gate that storyline for 275 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: ten episodes. 276 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 3: I thought it was so well done. 277 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: I love that it was, you know, And to hear 278 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: the background story as we were talking to Donald about Donald. 279 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: Right and Ronald Ronald Ronald, I think I said, Donald, Okay, 280 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: well I threw you off. 281 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 2: Follow your lead. But James on as well the day 282 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 2: before and they were talking about how well you know 283 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 2: it was edited beautifully, beautifully because you know, every once 284 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 2: in a while, Ronald Donald Ronald would get like something 285 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: was so strange would happen it wasn't real and he 286 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 2: could yes, so they would. They would purposefully make the 287 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 2: court proceedings long and boring to. 288 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 3: Like outweigh yeah, the ridiculousness. 289 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: You can't just go crazy situation after crazies and someone 290 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: would be like, what's going on? 291 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 2: But they said they would. They would go three or 292 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: four hours. 293 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: Of just mundane yeah, wow, to counteract and the ridiculousness. 294 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: But look how brilliant it turned out. 295 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: And it turned out great, and obviously like we're not 296 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 1: using any of this, any of this three hours of 297 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: mundane ness. 298 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: Just go back to James Beard for a second. Do 299 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: you follow? I mean, are you familiar with his work 300 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: and who he was? Did you ever go to his 301 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: townhouse for dinner? 302 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: And I'm aware of all of it, but I haven't. 303 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: I don't know a ton about him. I mean, I've 304 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: learned a little bit when I was hosting that the 305 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: awards themselves, but I don't know a ton. 306 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 3: Now. 307 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: I read a little bit about him in a bio 308 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 2: that was written and if I were. If I were 309 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: an actor, I would I would want that. I would 310 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 2: want to be James Beard. Of course, he was like 311 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 2: eight feet tall and fifteen feet wide and bigger than 312 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: life guy. But you know, I don't think anyone's ever 313 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 2: tried to tackle that role. 314 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: No, no, are you? Are you suggesting I perhaps. 315 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: It would take a lot of makeup, it would have 316 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: to thicken you up a lot. But he's just He's 317 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 2: just one of those roles. I'm not an actress. Who 318 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: am I to say this, but that just seems like 319 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: a juicy juicy Oh my god, just tell all about 320 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: this guy, because he had a crazy off the grid 321 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: live right that was he was very famous for here 322 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 2: right right right. Are there any people in history or 323 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 2: any people that we're all familiar with that you often think, God. 324 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: You know the one that comes up a lot, And 325 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: it's I think it's because I portrayed him sort of 326 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: in an episode of Modern Family or they they they 327 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: said that I resembled him in an episode, But it's 328 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: Vincent van Gogh. 329 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 3: You do, uh huh. 330 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: And I went to the Art Institute when I was 331 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: actually hosting James Beard Awards, I went to the Art 332 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: Institute of Chicago, and that's where his portrait is housed. 333 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: And I took a photo of myself next to his 334 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: portrait and put on like my Instagram page, and I 335 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: just like that took it to a whole other level, like. 336 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: Did you see do you see it? Though? 337 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: I do see it? 338 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 2: Right? 339 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: I think didn't. 340 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: William Dafoe just recently play him, And I can't remember 341 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: who was biopic. I think it's sort of been done already. 342 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: But you know that seems like something that there's probably 343 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: a story there. I could see myself playing Vincent van Gogh. 344 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: But well, if you have to do more than just 345 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: look like there's yeah, no true, you can create your 346 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: own Vincent. 347 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, but the base of it's there. Yeah. 348 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: So what's going on in Hollywood? Now? There's a writer 349 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: strike going. 350 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 3: To riders strikes? We're both doing podcasts? 351 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? Really? No or in dividing when you're hearing this, 352 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: maybe they all worked it all out. 353 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: I don't when is this going to air? In like 354 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: a few days? I think we got I think we're 355 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: safe to say it's still going on. 356 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: So give me your feeling about how it is being 357 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: an actor? Yeah, and did indeed this podcast you're doing 358 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: come from it. 359 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 3: Did not did not come from the rider strike. 360 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: It's a happy accident that I have something to focus 361 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: on during the writer's strike. 362 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 3: You know. 363 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: I I was in Los Angeles. I just moved to 364 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: Los Angeles and the Writer's strike of two thousand and 365 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: eight last one, and I was I had just finished 366 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: a series called The Class that ran I think nineteen episodes, 367 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: and it was canceled, and then the rider strike happened. 368 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: So I was had uprooted my life and moved to 369 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: LA and I was, you know, with the intention of 370 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: after this my show was canceled, I was going to 371 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: stick around and just sort of like, you know, see 372 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: what could happen for me in Los Angeles since I'd 373 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: already made roots there. And then it was like nine months. 374 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: I think it was one hundred days. I don't know 375 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: how many months it works. 376 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 3: It was right around hundred days. But you know, there 377 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 3: was just nothing. There was nothing at all, and it 378 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 3: was a little scary. 379 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 2: How did you survive? 380 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: I had saved some money from the the the series 381 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: I had done. I was not paid super well because 382 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: it was my very first TV show, so my quote 383 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: was extremely low. But I I I think I might 384 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: have borrowed some money from a friend. And then also 385 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: I was going back to how to New York rather 386 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: than doing some workshops of different theater projects, which you know, 387 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: kuching ku ching no. 388 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 3: Money in that. But you know, he. 389 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: Was keeping me artistically satisfied somewhat, and I kind of 390 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: feel like ready to throw in the towel and be like, okay, 391 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: well after this strike is resolved, that probably would end 392 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: up just moving back to New York. And then Modern 393 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: Family happened. 394 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: So in Wow, that was how many years? Eleven eleven seasons? 395 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 3: Eleven seasons. 396 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Now that it's in the rear view mirror 397 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: sort of, I mean, do you do you respect the 398 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: enormity of that show? I mean, Modern Family when you're 399 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 2: in it, I'm sure it's different than when you're. 400 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 3: Done with it. 401 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, no it is. But it's also 402 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: you know, it's something that I think we all knew 403 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: was a special thing. 404 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 3: You know. 405 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: It was nice having Ed O'Neil being part of that 406 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: cast because he had been through an eleven year show 407 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: with married with children, and he was in like the 408 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: third act of his life, let's say, and he was 409 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: at a place where he didn't think this would ever 410 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: happen for him again. So to watch him, who in 411 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: my eyes, was this massive star, this icon of television 412 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: be excited about something new was a telltale sign that 413 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: this is something to be excited about. I mean I 414 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: kind of followed his lead. He really seemed to take 415 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: each day and live it to its fullest and like, 416 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: really appreciate this work he got to do as someone 417 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: who is in his seventies and get this great role, 418 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: and also the acclaim that he had never received before 419 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: I married with children. 420 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 3: He was nominated for. 421 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: Emmy Awards and really respected by his peers in a 422 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: way that I think he hadn't been before. And so 423 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: I looked to him a lot and let that sort 424 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: of appreciation reflect. 425 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 3: Back on me. 426 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: But we all knew, you know, I was the youngest 427 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: cast member of the adults, and then you know, the 428 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: next jump was down with Sarah Hiland, who played my niece. 429 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 3: But I was with a whole bunch of people. 430 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: Who had been in this business and varying degrees of 431 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: success for quite some time, and I think we all 432 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: kind of collectively agreed that this was a really special 433 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: thing and something that we needed to enjoy and like 434 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: really appreciate. It's like it's such a rare thing that's 435 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: like that happens. 436 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 2: But eleven seasons. I mean, what was it like wrapping that? 437 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: Oh it was devastating and exciting at the same time. 438 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: You know, actors, I mean I should I'll speak for myself. 439 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: I was very eager to do other work and very 440 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: eager to play the roles. And you know, you were 441 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: playing this one person for eleven years and you know 442 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: that person so well. And as an actor, I like 443 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: to be scared. I like to be nervous, and I 444 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: like to try things that excite me. This podcast is 445 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: a great example of it. You know, Toasting Extreme Makeover 446 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: Home Editions is another example. Doing a play on Broadway 447 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: where there's you know that you're acting without a safety 448 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: net is another thing that excites me. I was very 449 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,479 Speaker 1: excited for these opportunities to come up, and then the 450 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: pandemic happened. So we wrapped the show and it was 451 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: an incredibly emotional process. You know, on the last day, 452 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: they they they start at the at the bottom of 453 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: the call sheet with the younger cast member and say, 454 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: you know, that's a rap on Aubrey Anderson Emmons, who 455 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: played my daughter Lily, And that's a series wrap on Aubrey, 456 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: and everyone cheers for that person, and they get closer 457 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: and closer to your number, and you know that your 458 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: numbers coming up and everyone's going to share for you. 459 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: And it's a very emotional thing ending with Ed O'Neill, 460 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: and then it's just like, well, now what do we do? 461 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: And like we sort of sat there and like drank 462 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: and had a party for like an hour, and then 463 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: people sort of I was like, but home, and for us, 464 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: we were like, well, we'll get to see each other 465 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: again in February or in March or April when the 466 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: series finale is finally airing. We had planned to be 467 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: like all the whole cast is gonna be on Jimmy 468 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: Kimore or something together. It's like, you know, I'll al 469 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: we'll see you in a few months, seen in a 470 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: few months. And then the world shut down, and you know, 471 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: we didn't get that closure of actually kind of coming 472 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: together again and really celebrating this thing. We did because 473 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: the finale aired during the pandemic, and I'm so grateful 474 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: that we were able to wrap shooting before everything shut down. 475 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: And so that there was actually closure to the art 476 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: form and for the fans as well, but as a cast, 477 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: we weren't able to have that closure, so that was sort. 478 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 3: Of there was some open wounds with that. 479 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: And I'm actually Julie Bowen has met the first guest 480 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: on my podcast, and we both talked about like, how 481 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: are you feeling with this, like little wellness check? Yeah, yeah, 482 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: And I've seen almost every single cast member in some 483 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: form or another, not altogether, but I think I've seen 484 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: everyone in person since we wrapped, and but you know, 485 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: we haven't all been together, and that sort of feels 486 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 1: like we don't have full closure with with you know, 487 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: wrapping up that process. 488 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 2: Okay, let's totally mess this Up's stop the interview and 489 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 2: go behind the curtains. 490 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 3: Okay. 491 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: We were talking earlier about being interviewed and you're asked 492 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: the same questions over and over and over, so you 493 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 2: look for different exciting ways to answer differently. Have you 494 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: told that same story? Has anyone ever asked you any 495 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: about anything about wrapping up? 496 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 3: No? No, oh really, I was wondering. 497 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: They asked us like what it was like to like 498 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: finish the show, and like what was that you know, 499 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: experience like and emotionally what was it? 500 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 3: You know? 501 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: But but you know, never, I guess I've never talked 502 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: about having finished it and then gone into a pandemic. 503 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 2: But the way you told the story was great. It 504 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 2: was awesome about how they Okay, you're next up, You're 505 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 2: next up for the following line everyone. Yes, that was 506 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 2: just really really fantastic. Okay, back to the interviews you 507 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 2: this is like we're learning. I'm learning. It's all good. 508 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 509 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: One of my favorite Hollywood stories the past few years. 510 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 2: Of course, it's been Jennifer Coolidge. When you say Jennifer Gills, 511 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 2: especially Gay goes. Yes, yes, we're all trying to kill her. She. 512 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 2: I mean, what an incredible story on many different levels. 513 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: I mean, we're talking about a woman in her her sixties, right, 514 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: who's just beautiful and fun and she's not new. She's 515 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 2: been around a long long time, long time, she's been 516 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: paying her dues and then of course here she is. 517 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 2: I mean you see her everywhere. 518 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, deservedly. 519 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 2: She's just incredible, do. 520 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 3: You I know? Look that for myself. Do you know her? 521 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 3: I've met her, I don't know her. 522 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 2: We need to know her. 523 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 3: I know, I feel like everyone needs to know. Jennifer's like, 524 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 3: I feel like Jennifer Clich. 525 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: Is like, oh man, I can't get to know all 526 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: of you, Like you know, She's like, oh geez, can 527 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: my Jennifer Clitch is not very good? 528 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 2: But then the all game in should have dinner at 529 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 2: in a Garden's house. 530 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 3: She's like, she'd be so exhausted. I wish I could. 531 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 3: I don't want to do that and dinner. 532 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 2: Jennifer's Oh, yeah, fascinating. I heard she has two homes 533 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: in New Orleans. Oh really having one home in New 534 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: Orleans is wacky enough. And you two, do you have 535 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 2: any other just top of mind Hollywood stories that you 536 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 2: find fascinating people that you would love to meet or 537 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: talk to because they've done something like Jennifer Coolidge. Look 538 00:23:58,800 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 2: what she's done. 539 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a great example of someone that I've 540 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: I've been very lucky that I've gotten to meet people 541 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: and work with people that I have had that feeling about. 542 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 1: This is a great example because I was actually talking 543 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: about Jennifer Collidge with this person. But Jane Lynch has 544 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: become a friend of mine, love her, and it is great, 545 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: Oh the greatest. And I've just I've I've revered her 546 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: for so long and then we became friends. And then 547 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: I was doing a movie in Canada and it was 548 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: with all it was all kids in this film, and 549 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: so like I had nothing, no one to hang out 550 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: with after we wrapped, and Jane was also going to 551 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: do a part of this film, and she overlapped with 552 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: like for like three days, and I was like, Jane, 553 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: we have got to please have dinner with me. 554 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 3: And I really don't know her that well. 555 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: And another person that happened to be in town was 556 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: Alison Janney and so I like I reached out to her, 557 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: again don't know her very well, was like, Alison, I 558 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: need adult attention. 559 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 3: We please have dinner with me. 560 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: And so these are two people I just like I thought, 561 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna cold call these people. I kind 562 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: of know them a little bit, but like not enough 563 00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: to say, like, will you just sit down and have 564 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: a meal with me? And they both did and I 565 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: had a great time with both of them. And it 566 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 1: wasn't a meal together but two separate meals. But I 567 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: remember talking about white Lotus with Jane and she's like, oh, 568 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: I'm so happy for for Jennifer and I haven't watched 569 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: it yet, but I hear she's fantastic, and so I 570 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: just like the warl like for me, it was like 571 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: the Christopher Guests. World was like closing in on me 572 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: in a way that I found incredibly gratifying. You know, 573 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: all these people who had done these films that I 574 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: love someone. 575 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 2: We had urgency in your voice and you called them. 576 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: Please, I did I need some adult I did. And 577 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: Allison was like number one on the call sheet for 578 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: this movie. She was doing night shoots and she was exhausted. 579 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: She's like, I have one day off, but I'd left 580 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: to have dinner with you. And I had a great 581 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: time with her. But you know, that's a perfect example 582 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: someone I revere and I adore and respect so much 583 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: and didn't know and have heard that she's just like 584 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: salt of the earth. And you know, I felt comfortable 585 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: reaching out and it was great, and you should. 586 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:03,239 Speaker 2: But on that same level, have you ever been just 587 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 2: floored because someone who you totally admire comes up to 588 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 2: you and says, Jesse, I gotta say your work is 589 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 2: just phenomenal, and you walk away, Oh my god. 590 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: I mean it happened a lot for all of us 591 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: on Modern Family. Steven Spielberg was a huge fan of 592 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: the show and like talk to us in terms of 593 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: like being an uber nerd about it, like talking like 594 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: breaking down the comedy of different scenes, like he came 595 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: at it from a writer and director perspective, and I 596 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: was like, Wow, this is crazy. Steven Spielberg is breaking 597 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: down my work in front of me. That was wild, 598 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: you know. 599 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 3: I mean. 600 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: Julia Roberts gave me a hug once out of the 601 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: blue on a red carpet. I think she's like she 602 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: didn't recognize anyone. She felt like she was floundering all 603 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: of a sudden, like she's like, oh, there's someone I 604 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: can know. We don't know each other. She was a 605 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: must have watched My Modern Family, and she came up 606 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: and gave me the biggest hug, like she hadn't seen 607 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: me in forever, and it was the first time we 608 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: were meeting. The photo exists online and you just google 609 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: just a top of Ferguson and Julie Roberts. 610 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: And the last time you saw her, I thought you'd 611 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 2: be best friends by now. 612 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: No, I'd love to know her, and I know people 613 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 1: who have worked with her and had such wonderful things 614 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 1: to say about her. But like those brushes have happened 615 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: a lot, and it's it's really exciting. 616 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 2: So is there ever a time when you're alone in 617 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 2: the house, your husband's gone, it's just you. 618 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 3: I made the kids? 619 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 2: Are the kids? Kids? 620 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 3: Child? Right too? 621 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 2: Two children? 622 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 3: Congratulations? 623 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: You have the house to yourself and you're walking by 624 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 2: a mirror and you stop and you you look at 625 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 2: yourself in the mirror and go, you know, fuck, this 626 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 2: is a great life. This is this is pretty awesome. 627 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: Did you ever have those moments? 628 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: I usually walk by a mirror and be like, God, 629 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: I look old. 630 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: Well, Miley is good. I mean, is that something you do? 631 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: Are you? I do it? Everyone swans? I have to 632 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 2: stop myself and go, this is kind of great. 633 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: I'm a very I'm very grateful for everything that's happened 634 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: to me. I have a wonderful family, two great kids. 635 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: I'm I have my health, I have a career that 636 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: I'm very proud of. I'm excited to see where it 637 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: goes next. I am I'm very grateful. I am I 638 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: I of course, everyone always wants to do more than 639 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: they've been allowed to do, and I there's there's things 640 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: I still would like to do. And you know, for 641 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: for me, and I talk about this with Julie on 642 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: my podcast, but like and also we talked about talked 643 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: about with Jim Parsons and but people who have been 644 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: who have played roles for such a long amount of time, 645 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: there's amount of there's amount of work that you have 646 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: to do to crawl out from under that part. And 647 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: so you know, my my goal now for myself is 648 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: to distance myself from from Mitchell on modern Family and 649 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: to be able to give myself opportunities to be seen 650 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: in other ways. So that's you know, I think you 651 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: can stop and look at the mirror and be like, 652 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for my life. This is a wonderful thing. 653 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: But for me personally, I have I have to acknowledge 654 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: that I have to acknowledge how how much I've achieved. 655 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: Not proud of myself I am, but then I personally 656 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: need to like still find drive to to further that 657 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: at least right now. Some day maybe I'll like want 658 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: to retire, but I'm definitely I'm excited to see what 659 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: happens next. 660 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: Retire Oh God, people do it, apparently know then they 661 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 2: come back sometimes from the day, Uh Jesse Tyler Ferguson's 662 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 2: podcast is called Dinners on Me with Jesse Tyler Ferguson. 663 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 2: Top of Mind. Some guests that are coming up that 664 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: we haven't heard yet. 665 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: Sure, we have Tracy Elis Ross coming out next week, 666 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: Pad Mlackshmi, Marcus Samuelson, Jim Parsons. 667 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 2: Marcus Samuelson is awesome. 668 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 3: Isn't He's so interesting and the nicest guy. Yeah, such 669 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: a great guy. 670 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: I have Roy Choy some that the more chefs happy 671 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: people have, Marcus Samuelson, Pat Mclakshmi, Roy Choi who kind 672 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: of started the food truck movement in Los Angeles with 673 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: with Kogie Tacos and has a fantastic, really interesting story 674 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: dealt with addiction and it's like at the top of 675 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: this game now. And I found that in a conversation 676 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: to be wildly inspiring. 677 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 678 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: I have some more people from Modern Family coming up 679 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: that I can't mention yet but excited about. 680 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. Any really really great friends, like truly best friends 681 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 2: you've interviewed the reason? 682 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Jim Parsons is a very very close 683 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: friend of mine. He was at my wedding and we 684 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: became very good friends through working in the same field 685 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: together and you know, both being out gay actors in Hollywood, 686 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: and we came together sort of as it is Mafia, 687 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: the game. 688 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 2: Offa of course, the Pink Mafia. Yes, yes, yes, Well, 689 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 2: so the reason I'm asking you is I have found 690 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 2: and I think this is maybe very telling of me 691 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 2: and some issues I need to work on. I have 692 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 2: a difficult time interviewing people I know very well. 693 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: Me too, Okay, so you know what, I almost every 694 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: single person that I've interviewed this first season is someone 695 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: I know pretty well. I have some very old things, 696 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: like some of my oldest friends in Los Angeles are 697 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: are on the podcast coming up, Jim being one of them, 698 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Banks, but I've just known for a very long time. 699 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: And I did find even with Julie Bow and I 700 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: know her so well, Like I was like, I don't know, 701 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: it's going to sound like we're just rehashing old stories, 702 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: right it is for a listener who maybe hasn't heard 703 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: all these stories. But that was the interesting challenge of 704 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: trying to find a different new in with these people 705 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: that I know so well. 706 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 2: I'll give you a Charlie Pooth is a good friend 707 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:22,719 Speaker 2: of mine. 708 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love Charlie. 709 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 2: But as we got to know each other more and 710 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 2: more and more, I would have him in and what 711 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 2: do we talk about? It's I could lead him down 712 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 2: a road I know he can go down. But that 713 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 2: just seems kind of cheap and tawdry. 714 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: But it's not because a listener wants to hear all that. 715 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: But they have to know that if they're sitting in 716 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: this room with how many cameras pointing at us, and 717 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: we're sitting in front of microphones and we have you know, 718 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: sound engineers, like we know that we're here for a reason. 719 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: That's not just a conversation. If we're sitting in your 720 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: office and we're having this conversation, you know, like helpous 721 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: you know if spout me already like I. 722 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 2: Can't do it. Yeah, So you know that that Jesse 723 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 2: and I don't know each other because this is a 724 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 2: great interview, it means just a piece of crap, like 725 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: what do we talk about? But I said this to 726 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: him in an interview. I told tru I can't interview you. 727 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: Cut them off, say no, don't come back here, not 728 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: someone else interview you. 729 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 3: Well, thank you for being here today, Happy to be here. 730 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 2: I want everyone to put it on what is it 731 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 2: your list? Your puppet notifications? Yes, what do you do? 732 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 3: You favored it? 733 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 2: You favored it? 734 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 3: You like them? 735 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 2: The tribe and review. 736 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: We like reviews, reviews when there's five stars included. I 737 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: feel like people who like, go, I'm gonna put one 738 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: star and then write something really stark, and it's like, 739 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: what else could you do today? 740 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 2: Let's just so do you ignore them? Do? Do you 741 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 2: get one stars? 742 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: I will tell you I just recently looked at the 743 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: reviews on the Apple podcast and there are only five 744 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: star reviews. It's not that I have five stars, like 745 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: my average is like four point six because some people 746 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: just like push the star meter they don't like to 747 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: leave a review. 748 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 3: But everyone that's. 749 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: Actually stopped to write something has been really positive. So 750 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate all these people who like and subscribe and review. 751 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 2: Okay, like subscribe and review. Dinners on the Dinner's on 752 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 2: Me with Jesse Tyler Ferguson, And of course this podcast 753 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 2: is what they called thinking. It's thinking out Loud. 754 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 3: That's what we did. 755 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 2: We should call it we thought out Loud. We should 756 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 2: call it. I don't know the name of. 757 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: This podcast, untitled podcast projects know what were some of 758 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: the pitch. 759 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 2: It was off air, off air. 760 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 3: That great one. 761 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,479 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if you heard his mic. His 762 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 2: MIC's not on. It was Elvis Durant's contractually obligated because 763 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 2: it is they're forcing me to do this, but I'm 764 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 2: glad they are. I will. I will thank them one day, 765 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 2: especially for today. 766 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 3: Start up blog next can we get you to do Please. 767 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 2: Don't give them any ideas. Jesse Tider for an honor 768 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 2: to have you on today, and I can't wait to 769 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 2: listen to the rest of your twenty six party four 770 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 2: twenty four podcasts. Bring him on and in New York 771 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 2: versus la go. 772 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: Oh god, I mean if you have, if you really 773 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: put it into my head, it's out New. 774 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 2: York Okay, thank you, have a nice day. Thank you, 775 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 2: Jesse Titer Ferguson. Thanks for being on with us. I 776 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 2: can't talk mark edit. Thank you, Jesse Tyter Ferguson. Don't 777 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 2: edit that, leave it all natural. 778 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 3: I like the first one. 779 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 2: Check out Jesse's podcast, Dinner Is on Me. He brings 780 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 2: in a lot of actors and celebrities that we love, 781 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 2: has dinner with them, opens them up, has great conversation. 782 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 2: He's great at what he does. You're gonna love it. 783 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to the show. Tell 784 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 2: a friend, tell a dozen friends, and don't forget Rate 785 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 2: review and subscribe. If you subscribe them by we notify 786 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 2: you when a new episode comes out and you want 787 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 2: to know that, don't you? 788 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 3: Sure you do? 789 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 2: Thinking Out is hosted by me Elvis Durant. The podcast 790 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 2: is produced and edited by Mike Coscarelli. Executive producers are 791 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 2: Andrew mcglsi and Katrina Norvell. Special thanks to David Katz, 792 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 2: Michael Kindheart, and Caitlin Madore. Thinking Out Loud as part 793 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 2: of the Elvis Durant Podcast Network on iHeartRadio. For more, 794 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 2: rate review and subscribe to our show and if you 795 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 2: liked this episode, tell your friends. Until next time, I'm 796 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 2: Elvis Durant.