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Speaker 1: This has been and Ashley I almost Famous in Depth.

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, we are joined today by very special guests.

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Speaker 1: One of my very favorite people in Bachelor Nation, Tasia Adams,

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Speaker 1: is here for a special Many in Depth podcast. Welcome Tasia. Hi,

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Speaker 1: how are you. I'm I'm okay. You know, I'm getting through.

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Speaker 1: I was able. I was able to start these magic

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Speaker 1: nausea pills this week, which is helping me. Um, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we're getting through. But you are seriously like you've

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Speaker 1: been I don't even know, like how busy you have

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Speaker 1: been since you you ended up getting engaged to Zach,

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Speaker 1: which I mind boggle that it's been a year, well

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Speaker 1: it's been in years since I met him, and then

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Speaker 1: when your engagement is next month, Yes, it's still like,

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Speaker 1: that's crazy, guys. I have so many it's like weird.

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Speaker 1: Jared and I did nothing when we were down there

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Speaker 1: in Palm Springs except sitting in our hotel room for

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Speaker 1: five days. But I have really fond memories of just

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Speaker 1: sitting in the hotel room and like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it's really whimsical. The Taylor Swift Um, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: folklore just come out so like folklore is like the

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Speaker 1: soundtrack to that time for me anyway, So let's talk

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Speaker 1: about you and Zach. How often are you able to

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Speaker 1: see each other because you go back and forth. You

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Speaker 1: still buy coastal by definition? By definition? Yes, um, so

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Speaker 1: you know it's actually it's been a whirlwind, um, just

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Speaker 1: because I did move to New York on Christmas. It

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Speaker 1: was Christmas Day, um, yeah, and it was magical. However,

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Speaker 1: it was still COVID times, so it was not really

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Speaker 1: the New York that it is now. Um. But then

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Speaker 1: I left to go film Katie Season and that um

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Speaker 1: took some time away as well. But since I got

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Speaker 1: back to Katie Season, I was actually in New York

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Speaker 1: for a solid two months. I didn't even want to

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Speaker 1: go home to Orange County, so I could really give

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Speaker 1: it a shot, and I just fell in love with

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Speaker 1: the city. Zack and I had a chance to actually

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Speaker 1: date and um just create so many new memories and

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Speaker 1: I feel like our relationship really started then, to be

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Speaker 1: honest with you, um, because it was at that point

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Speaker 1: that we were able to go out and I don't know,

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Speaker 1: go walk the park and just like do weird things

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Speaker 1: that like we have been dying to do. So we

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Speaker 1: do see each other. He was just here UM with

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Speaker 1: me on my travel adventures if you want to, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, UM, but we see each other often. Do

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Speaker 1: you feel like the missing is that the distance makes

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Speaker 1: on a day to day basis. You know what, Um,

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Speaker 1: distance does make the heart grow fonder. But I'm like

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Speaker 1: good with it for like two three weeks and then

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, I'm like ready to bounce. Um. But

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Speaker 1: the good thing is because I don't really see this

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Speaker 1: being like I've been traveling quite a bit this year.

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Speaker 1: I don't really see this being my life, you know,

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Speaker 1: every year for the rest of my life. I think

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Speaker 1: and my foundation and what I want to do, and

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Speaker 1: hopefully I can just live in New York full time.

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Speaker 1: That's the plan. Nice. Yeah, So we like to, like

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Speaker 1: with the In Depth podcast, go really deep back like

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Speaker 1: to your childhood and talk about how like that kind

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Speaker 1: of started shaping you. So you have a sister and

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Speaker 1: a brother, am I missing one? Yes, two brothers and sister.

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Speaker 1: Two brothers, one sister. And your parents are still together.

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Speaker 1: They've been married for how long, like thirty two, thirty

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Speaker 1: three years something like that, So even together since high school.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's so cute. So describe like what you're childhood

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Speaker 1: they did. Yeah, so life in Orange County. Um, well,

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Speaker 1: my parents were both very young. Um, obviously they had me.

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Speaker 1: My dad was nineteen, my mom was one. So are

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Speaker 1: that my upbringing was very different than my siblings. Um.

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Speaker 1: especially during the summer. And um, life was different. Life

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Speaker 1: I don't know if your dad was strict, Like how

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Speaker 1: was your high school life? How is dating in high school?

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Speaker 1: Did you get any of that? No? I didn't, day

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Speaker 1: I think my my first okay, so my first kiss

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Speaker 1: So then you met your first husband when you were

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Speaker 1: How long were you guys together, Um, six and a

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Speaker 1: was he cool with that? Like how was that wait

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Speaker 1: So let's fast forward a little bit too, you know,

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Speaker 1: Like you grow together. You your identity is not you've

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Speaker 1: Like my feel like you know, like you know, and

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Speaker 1: So you're seeing her really at her her lowest. Um. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: Like I still can't believe it. Twist and did you

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Speaker 1: strength as a very much. So that was a fantastic

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Speaker 1: tea Asia. So now that you're you're on your are

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Speaker 1: to be different, but I'm telling you right now, it's already.

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Speaker 1: And oh my gosh. So Tasha Adams, everyone, you're fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for taking time out of your

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Speaker 1: exhausting days and all the interviews you have to do

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Speaker 1: to be with us. You are the greatest. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy to see you, and honestly, like I

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Speaker 1: said before, I'm so freaking excited for you. Thank hell. Wait,

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Speaker 1: one of our favorite memories from the day that we

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Speaker 1: announced was you and Caitlin calling us and you being

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Speaker 1: so emotional. That was just the sweetest thing. Like seriously,

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Speaker 1: I had that screenshot a picture of you guys, and

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Speaker 1: it's the cutest thing. It makes me like very grateful

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Speaker 1: again for all the experiences and the people that we've

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Speaker 1: met through this process. We're all going through it in

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Speaker 1: a different way, but like it's we we have like this,

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Speaker 1: we have this bond, so it's exciting. But yeah, glad

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Speaker 1: we were able to do this. I appreciate you. Appreciate you.

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