1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: But the fact that Tom Hanks is probably paying child 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: support on a black grandchild just makes me sleep better 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: at that. You like that, You're like, good, Tom Hanks 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: should pay for that black baby. Yeah, it's gotta get 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: that leaving conditioner. I don't know what that means, but 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Ships, racist money, marsh stuff. 7 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: I can't tell me. Yeah, there it is, we're starting. 8 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: That's it, baby. Yeah, welcome to another spectacular episode of 9 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: My Mama Told Me, the podcast where we dive deep, 10 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories, and he 11 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: finally worked to prove that Muddy Waters got the name 12 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: Muddy Waters because his mother had no idea she was 13 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: pregnant and instead thought she had nine months of diarrhea. 14 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: That's right, ladies and gentlemen. She thought muddy Waters was 15 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: coming out her back, not her front, and that is 16 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: why she named the child Muddy Waters. She was consistent. 17 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: That is the story. I'm telling you. That's right. I'm 18 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: your host, Langston Kurtman. As always, I'm coming for dead people. 19 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't know. This man was 20 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: a blue slegend, and here I come, fucking with him 21 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: and his mother for some reason, I'm not right. I 22 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: don't have a good spirit. Nothing in me is working 23 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: the way it's supposed to. But you know who is 24 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: working correctly. You know who is doing it all right, 25 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: So I guess today she's phenomenals. She's stunning. She's a 26 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: god damn American hero. You know her, you love her, 27 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: You know her from her work on the Circle, you 28 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: know her from her work and Always be My Baby 29 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: on Netflix, and importantly from her brand new Netflix special 30 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: called Welcome to Be Tobia. She's give it up for 31 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: Michelle Bote. Everybody, Yes, I did not know you were 32 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: a light skin, did pipster Steve Harvey? But yeah, the 33 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: funk we did. You are just out here dipping into it. 34 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: We bug out my eyes, just like it. I love 35 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: it when they call him Mr Portadahead and he's just 36 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: like he's always surprised. I'm like, Steve getting together. But 37 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: I miss you so much. I really miss just calling 38 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: you the low budget tone bell and messing with you. 39 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: You forgot to mention those credits that we did a 40 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: pilot for Seth Brogan called Singularity, and she got sixteen. 41 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm still waiting to hear if it gets picked up 42 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: to the sixteen. I called, what's going on? We need 43 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: the money listen. I don't bring that pilot up often, 44 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: but it was a great time. We had a great 45 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: time and then we at our feeling started afterwards when 46 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: EFFECT was like, hey, we don't like it, we don't 47 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: care for this at all. Isn't that crazy? And I'm like, 48 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: we are so funny and cute. What's wrong with you? 49 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: F X, get it to get up, f X, get 50 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: it together. I'm drinking wine, French wine. And I remember 51 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: being in Vancouver with you and Damon Wayne's Jr. And 52 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: we were having a burger at the restaurant downstairs in 53 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: the hotel and I was like, we gotta get this wine. 54 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: You guys are like, we can get water. I was 55 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: like no, we just went to pilot, like I get 56 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: this line. I was like, I'll pay for it. And 57 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: then I was like a hundred dollars. I'm like, what 58 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: do I pay for this? But it was beautiful. He 59 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: put it in like a it was like a snake 60 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: funnel that like, uh yeah, it was meant to let 61 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: it breathe as it went down. Yes, I was like 62 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: I'm breathing. It was a gorgeous moment of like I 63 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 1: felt like that Miley Cyrus song where I'm just like, 64 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: get to the airport, bump, bump, bump. Listen. You didn't 65 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: get any of the lyrics right, but I love that 66 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: I knew exactly what song you were talking about. You 67 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: missed every single lyric, but I was like, yeah, I 68 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: know the one. Look, Look that's how new money be. 69 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: We don't know how to act, don't know lyric. No, 70 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: I feel like that entire We were there for what 71 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: a month, maybe a month and a half in Vancouver, 72 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: and you spent the entire time doing the most extravagant 73 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: sort of like you had a seafood platter almost every 74 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: day and you drank towers. Tower's exactly what y'all think 75 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,799 Speaker 1: it is. It's just towers of seafood. And I felt 76 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: like a fat king in the Game of Thrones ready 77 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: to marry his sister and get go. I was like, 78 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: what is she doing? Look at all this mercury. I'm 79 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: just taking in. It was inspiring and I've learned to 80 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: live better because of that experience. You better live better 81 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: because we're too cute not to Okay, we don't have 82 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: any more time to talk seafood towers and all that nonsense. 83 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: We need to get into this conspiracy theory because you 84 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: sent me one that actually has come up a few 85 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: times from our our fans. Our fans have requested it 86 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: a few times and they're finally gonna get it. But 87 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: you said, my mama told me black people scared when 88 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: they laughed because it's what slaves would do to avoid 89 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: causing commotion. Look, I feel this deeply, um, in so 90 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: many ways. My dad is from Haiti, and Haiti was 91 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: the first island to get his independence in the eighteen hundreds, 92 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: so maybe earlier than that. Don't quote me because of 93 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: that at man and also drinking wine. But um, yeah, 94 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: And so I know Creole with a K came about 95 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: because when the slaves were taken from Africa, they weren't 96 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: allowed to speak their native tongue and so even though 97 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: they were out in the fields, they had to make 98 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: it sound like it was French, which is how they 99 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: were able to mix it to make it sound like 100 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: they were still speaking French from Afar, but still adding 101 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: their African influence. And so you know a lot of 102 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: my aunts and and um grand aunts would always cover 103 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: their mouths when they laugh because women weren't supposed to 104 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: show emotion. And I feel like just secrets in general 105 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: are just is such a Caribbean Southern slavery. I don't 106 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: know how to read, I don't know how to write 107 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: what you mean. So I feel like if you show emotion, 108 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: you're definitely gonna run away and laugh at a corner, 109 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: like you're something on a Blair Witch project. So this 110 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: conspiracy spoke to me zeeply, especially as a big titty, 111 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: freckle faced truth teller. I'm just like, no, I want 112 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: to see yo dick on stage, you know, like I mean, 113 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: I don't know from my ancestors wildest dreams were biggest nightmares. 114 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: But here the funk we is so you are, in 115 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: your words, you are opposing everything that they stood for 116 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: in a beautiful way, not in a in a in 117 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: a traumatic way, but in a really nice way where 118 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: everybody else had to cover their faces and run away 119 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: to hide their labs. They're like, no funk that, I'm 120 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: gonna talk about my teaple and say nice things, yes, yes, 121 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: and also tell men what to do or not do, 122 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: because for so long, particularly black women were not allowed 123 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: to tell especially men, what to do, you know, it's 124 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: always like protect your man, protect your man, but like 125 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: no one ever talks about us. So like, was were 126 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: they communicating that to you, that this was a sort 127 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: of reaction to what was happening or is that something 128 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: you just saw and picked up on and and made 129 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: note of a little bit of both, Like it took 130 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: me a good as minute for me to realize they 131 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: weren't joking. They were trying to tell the truth. Three 132 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: wines in with a smile. You know, I'm like, is 133 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: it is it? Are they making fun of this or 134 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: is it really? Like it was confusing, and I realized 135 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: being like passive aggressive to humor and just like I 136 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: don't want to gossip, but you know, like that's them 137 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: trying to say it without them really taking responsibility because 138 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: that would be too much. And so yeah, it's just 139 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: one of those I feel like complicated things. You know, 140 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: it's later it's almost beautiful in them being able to 141 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: articulate that, right, but then it's also real sad that 142 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: that's what they're articulating, Like, yeah, you know, historically we 143 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: weren't allowed to express joy, so this is a habit 144 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: we picked up as a way of handling that Yeah. 145 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like all of my American Black 146 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: friends and Caribbean friends all struggle with their parents who 147 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 1: have secrets, whether it's a surprise half sister, a brother, 148 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: or a whole ass family or you know, I didn't 149 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: know you did this, or don't tell your father what 150 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: where it is. I feel like all of us struggle 151 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: with that and like have that story and can connect 152 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: with that. So that's why I'm just like, maybe slaves 153 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: did like have a your mama, Joe can just scatter 154 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: because we weren't allowed to, you know, express joy. I'll 155 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: say this as my my mother's been married four times, 156 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: and I could have used a few secrets, you know 157 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like she could have kept a few 158 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: secrets from me. I didn't need to know about all 159 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: these other motherfuckers. Like go ahead, just go out for 160 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: the night and come back with the thing you can't 161 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: tell me, you know what I mean. Yeah, but you 162 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: have a trusting face, so that's your fault. She's like, 163 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: I gotta talk to somebody. This guy seems like he 164 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: won't snitch on me. Yeah, you know, when your kid 165 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: is a good egg and not you know what I mean, 166 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: let me ask you this because I think part of 167 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: what you're describing with your aunt's just really interesting in 168 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: comparison to to the scattering theory, right in that the 169 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: scattering to me has always been sort of like synonymous 170 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: with joy, Like it seems joyous. And so I'm wondering 171 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: how much you see that that contrast of what you're 172 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: describing of your aunts sort of having to muffle their 173 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: joy versus this other thing of like running full speed 174 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: just feels like a motherfucker that's happy as shit. Oh, 175 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: just like you, same boat heard a joke before he 176 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: just went off. Look, I think I think it could 177 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: be a little bit of both. You know. It's just like, oh, 178 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to hear that. Oh, I gotta go 179 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: over to this part of the field. Oh you know 180 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: what I mean. And so I think it could be 181 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: a little bit of both. But because you can't be 182 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: two things at the same time, because I'm a bit 183 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: but I'm also a good person. And that's true. That's 184 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: a through top to bottom, no disagreement on this side 185 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: of the table. I hate you so much, but I mean, 186 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, that's it's like I did nothing 187 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: makes you feel better as a comedian when you, whether 188 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: you're on stage or not, tell some funny or just 189 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: real and somebody just like has to run off and 190 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: has like a bodily reaction, you know what I mean. 191 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: So that's the realist I used to watch. I'm sure 192 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: you did too. I used to watch a ship ton 193 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: of deaf jam and the best fucking episodes and the 194 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: best moments of all those episodes where when people were 195 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: standing up and running through the aisles and like fully 196 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: making church. Yeah, it was like a holy experience for 197 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: them watching these shows. And it's like you can't beat that. 198 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: That's unbeatable as a comedian. Oh, that is just something 199 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: you always strive to. It's just like I have been 200 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: told since I was like five years old, so I 201 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: can't remember. I should always be bikini body ready, that 202 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: bikini fun your bikini. I don't want to be bikini 203 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: body ready. I want to be so funny that a 204 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: motherfucker's gotta get up out of his seat and just 205 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: like wave a flag like he's that Caribbean to a carnival. 206 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I need a break from 207 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: whatever this is just because it's too good. Yes, Like 208 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: you know, I want to say something so fucking powerful 209 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: that somebody can't control their body. That's where it's sucking 210 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: at that. Oh man. Here's the the one challenge that 211 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: I've had with this conspiracy theory for a while. It's 212 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: one that I I sort of struggle with on a 213 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: personal level, is I don't love the idea that we 214 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: as black people of today are still trapped in the 215 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: rules of like what slavery was. Do you know what 216 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: I mean? Like, there's something that bumps me a little 217 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: bit of just being like, God, damn, we're still doing 218 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: slave ship, you know what I mean that? But generational 219 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: ship is fucking real. When people throw around the word 220 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: toxicity and PTSD and all these other words that we're 221 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: using now as hashtags, that's you can't that is that 222 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: is like woven in our fiber and we don't even 223 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: ow it. You know. Like so many of my Black 224 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: friends and Spanish friends will be like, I can't afford 225 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: to buy property even though they're making money, because they 226 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: just have never seen anyone in their family actually owned something. 227 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: It's always a rent check. It's always the first or 228 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: fifteenth of the month, and it's just like, oh, we 229 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: can actually, you know, And I've just I've just come 230 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: up with it this week. We can redefine our history 231 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: by defining our happiness, and so we have to individually 232 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: do that and pick our fucking lane, but also appreciate 233 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: the lanes that have been like carved out for us, 234 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: because it does make us who we are, but it 235 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: doesn't define who we're always gonna motherfucking b So yeah, 236 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: I say, learn from the past, but move the funk on. Like, look, 237 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: as a woman of any race, if you go out 238 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: and have like a vacation by yourself, you're not gonna 239 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: go out and be like I can't drink because you 240 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: know I saw sight into the lambs and that ship 241 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: might happen, you know what I mean, Like, you can't 242 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: just go out and be like no, no, no. History 243 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: has taught me you know you can still go out 244 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: and be free and be you and be smart about 245 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: it and understand what could happen, but be smart about 246 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: who you talk too. So I feel like if we 247 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: ain't learned from the past and what the funk is 248 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: the point? So yeah, I also like that argument, then 249 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: it shouldn't be me looking at this resentful like god damn, 250 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: we're still doing slavery. Ship it should instead me be 251 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: be me embracing it and being like, no, that's look, 252 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: we got a beautiful lesson out of slavery that we 253 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: should just celebrate instead of you know, no resentment, just love. Yeah, 254 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: because man, you do comedy and if you can make 255 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: people scatter and laugh, then you are your ancestors wildest dreams. Sure, 256 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: I like that. And I don't even have to think 257 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: about the fact that they running like slaves. I just 258 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: gotta be like, no, that's beautiful. Look at them little 259 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: slaves were go ahead, y'all. Yeah. Somewhere, Lupia is just like, 260 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: fuck this show, Fuck this show. I was I was 261 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: reading something in relation to this that was talking. It 262 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: was somebody analyzing, like, you know, the slave stories and 263 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: how they're so tired of watching films now that continue 264 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: to sort of retell slave stories and retail our trauma. 265 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: And they were saying that Lupeta has admitted that she 266 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: still feels trauma from having played the part of in 267 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: twelve Years the Slave a Slave, and it's like, God, 268 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: damn it, that ship is still making you feel traumatic. 269 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: You were just pretending I can't imagine the trauma that 270 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: was cooked into our bones to your point that has 271 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: become permanent in the way that like generations behave afterwards. Yeah, 272 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: it's like it's really one of those things where it's 273 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: like movies is almost all we have because no one's 274 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: rewriting history books, no one's trying to update the Bible. 275 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: Like what's done is done, you know what I mean, 276 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: Like we update our phones more than we care about 277 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: updating history books. And ship has happened and you want 278 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: to put O. J. Simpson in the book so much 279 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: other ship has happened. So like, I feel like these 280 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: movies are here for a purpose. But I totally understand. 281 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: Uh they call it um pain porn is what Hollywood 282 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: calls it, underground or a sad com. Yeah, you know, 283 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: so I understand that people are sick of it. But 284 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: it's just like if you don't know, then you need 285 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: to watch and fucking learn and figure it out. But 286 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: Lupetea just want to borrow motherfucker's solf. And that's the 287 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: hard part. That's the hard part with all of this 288 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: is like with the pain porn, it is retelling stories 289 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: that we need to hear or at least need to 290 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: be aware of. But then at the same time, if 291 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: you don't want to make pain porn? How the fund 292 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: do you make slavery funny? Do you know what I mean? 293 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: Like when when like there's no stories of like hilarious slaves, 294 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: that's not a thing that pops up. When I was 295 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: doing research, I was like, who was the funniest slave? 296 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: And literally no one's saying came up? I know it 297 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't it be great if Harriet Tubman also did stand up? 298 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: If she was just doing bits while they were walking 299 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: and hiding, man, I would love, Like, Look, Harriet Tubman 300 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: and Josephine Baker are two women I would love to 301 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: talk to. I mean, besides other women. But you know, 302 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: I feel like when love drives you to make history, 303 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: it's just like, oh, girl, talk to me about it, 304 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? She went down to the 305 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: South again to get her man, and he'd have moved on. 306 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: It's just like this bitch waited a whole twelve years. Anyways. 307 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: I love that. I do love the idea that Harriet Tubman. 308 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: It's like hiding under a bit with somebody and then 309 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: the master walks past. I look at this nigga shoes 310 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: ain't look at look at his trash ass? Slave on 311 00:17:52,640 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: her shoes ter it is roasting. Ask you this with 312 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: with the the idea that that you are embracing this scattering. Right, 313 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: if we're embracing the scattering, do you feel like we're 314 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: still living with the trauma of our relationship with white 315 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 1: people when we scatter, that we are doing it in 316 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: fact for the protection or comfort of white people or 317 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: is that just our way of expressing ourselves at this point, 318 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: I want to say it's our way of expressing ourselves 319 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: because it's still Gregaria. Isn't boastful, but not fearful, Like 320 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: we're not hiding in fear. You know, We're just like 321 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: doing the most that I appreciate. You know what I mean? 322 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: For me, it feels like like busting out the electric 323 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: slide in the middle of a brunch for no funer reason, 324 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: just because I feel a moment. You know, Look, I 325 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: could be all wrong because, like honestly, Muddy Waters, I 326 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: had no fucking idea that his mom was pregnant. Didn't 327 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: know it. That is the ultimate reenactment, because these bitches 328 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: on I was ap pregnant and didn't even know it. 329 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: They just like took a big as ship after a 330 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: burrito and found a baby, I said, what, And then 331 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: those poor babies that I gotta see the re enact 332 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: me of the mama taking a pop pope and then 333 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: pulling up a crying wild Let me be clear, I 334 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: made that completely up. So I don't want you to 335 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: walk away from this thing and that muddy waters mother did. 336 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: In fact, I just say stuff. I just I make up. 337 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here, I write up nonsense about historical figures 338 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: and or famous people, and then I say it on 339 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: the Internet and hope that I get canceled than I expected. No, 340 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: you gotta get back out and do stand up. This 341 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: is not right, Yeah, not right. No, it's a real 342 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: sick relationship. It's either this right. I have to talk 343 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: to my wife and she don't want to hear none 344 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: of this. So you know that I I'm glad you 345 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: have an extra bedroom. We have an extra bedroom. Uh. 346 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: It gets used more than I would care for. But 347 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: that's what we're surviving, this quarantine. You know what I mean, God, 348 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: do what you got to do. Man, You guys to 349 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: do what you guys to do. We're gonna take one 350 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 1: break and then we're gonna be back with more. Michelle 351 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: Bull tell you more, my mama told me. And we 352 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: are back. Yes, pull up spreaking. We don't say the 353 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: N word around two year old. All right, We're we're back. 354 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: It's the only button networks. So that's what we're using. 355 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: We're back. We're still talking to Michelle Buell. We're still 356 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: talking about the possibility that black people scatter when they 357 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: laugh as a homage, as a historical, sort of generational 358 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: homage to the slaves before. And we're we're about to 359 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: get into some of this research. I have an exciting 360 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: collection of arguments, thoughts, things that I've gathered that I'd 361 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: love to run past you, if that's okay. All right, 362 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: So again, I tried to google who was the funniest slave, 363 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: And the main thing that actually came up in relation 364 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: to funny slaves was Frederick Douglas. Apparently, uh, pound for pound, 365 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: that nigga was pretty funny back in the day, like that. 366 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: His writing was considered to be humorous. Tell about it. 367 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: I was white. He probably had jokes. Oh yeah, he 368 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: made it all the way to a white woman. He 369 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: literally lived a whole life. But so old Freddie. He 370 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: wrote a lot of sort of fancy essays and and 371 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: narratives about his experience as a slave and then obviously 372 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: later as a freedman, and a lot of what I've 373 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: read wasn't so much funny, but it was sort of 374 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: like a lot of like ironic sort of twists. Right, 375 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: So it's a lot of fancy words that go on 376 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: to say, man, my master, sure did pray a lot 377 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: before you beat the ship out of it before the 378 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: exactly it was like a good blog. But there's not 379 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: a lot of talk of of laughter in relation to slaves, 380 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: in part because historically they don't want us to know 381 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: that slaves were necessarily having that kind of fun and 382 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: or they weren't having fun at all. We're not a 383 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: d percent sure, Oh I think I'm a hundred percent short. 384 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. Go on, they had at least one 385 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: funny day, one hilarious Yeah, I get you though. Here's 386 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: something that did come up though, in relation to slaves 387 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: and laughter. Have you heard of laughing barrels? No? Okay, 388 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: so apparently I'm so glad you have apparently laughing barrel 389 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: It's not as bad as you think they are, although 390 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: it's pretty fucked up. It's not good. But apparently laughing 391 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: barrels were basically barrels that slaves, when they thought something 392 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: was funny would hide their heads then in order to 393 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: keep from master hearing their laughs here keep them from 394 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: yelling out, so they would poke their head in a 395 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: barrel and laugh inside of there instead of laughing out 396 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: in the world where Master could hear them. You seem horrified. 397 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: None of this seems at least they're not like I mean, 398 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: it was that we're like they would have to like 399 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: being a like get thrown a barrel and like thrown 400 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: over a waterfall. Yeah, I don't think they were laughing 401 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: in that one. But we are the funny barrels. But 402 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: apparently there were whole barrels that just used to be 403 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: sitting around where the slave would uh would use this 404 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: basically a hiding place. Um, is that where the phrase 405 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: of barrel laughs came from? There are arguments that that 406 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: is in fact where the phrase comes from, is that 407 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: slaves invented these barrel of laughs. Now, other etomologists, these 408 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: other white people that run dictionary dot com, claim that 409 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: a barrel of laughs was not in fact invented through slavery, 410 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: but was just a barrels were at the time a 411 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: giant measurement of of stuff, and so to add to history. 412 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: They're like, we ain't trying to deal with all that 413 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: slave ship. It's just a sap at a mommy's or whatever. 414 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: He said, just don't want to talk about slavery. So 415 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: I'm a good person. That's all that matter, is okay. 416 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: One of the things that I discovered though, in relation 417 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: to this barrel laughs. And I'm loving that you brought 418 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: this up in terms of them not dealing with history, 419 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: because I think it's a really important layer here, right, 420 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: is that so much of our understanding of slavery was propaganda. 421 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: It was shaped by the way that white people wanted 422 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: us to understand slavery. It still is talk that talk 423 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: tell me more. Hell yeah, it's still is. I mean, 424 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: there's a reason why in through a quarantine, through the 425 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: video of George Floyd, and today is marsh Swain Nights 426 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: sorry spoiler alert, is the um the trial of Derek 427 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: whatever the funk his name is that piece of ship 428 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: that n get on his neck. For the only reason 429 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: why Black Lives Matter movement doubled or tripled in size 430 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: is because white folks got on board and finally fucking 431 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: said this is bullshit. People don't understand the word systemic 432 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: or what the funk that means. People don't want to 433 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: stand history. I'm jereman. That's might have a bubble, but 434 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: whatever the fun people are saying, it's just like we're 435 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: when when I say we are stronger together, that is 436 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: fucking everybody, because everybody needs a Brad Pitt in twelve 437 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: years of slay, you know what I mean. Everybody needs 438 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: a person to be like, I believe you, I understand, 439 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: let me help you because at this point, you know, 440 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: we can't rewrite what the funk happened, but we can 441 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: try and deal with it. And I think the exhausting part, 442 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: especially for us, like the fourth or third or fifth, 443 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: whatever the funk generation you are, is um trying to 444 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: explain to people that it's even real to begin with. 445 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: And I feel like this whole Asian hate situation has 446 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: always motherfucker been there. It's always motherfucking been there. But 447 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: it's just like you know which group of like culturally, 448 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: who's going to be the loudest m And so it's 449 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,959 Speaker 1: real motherfucking crazy. And if you can still you know, 450 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: go to a good school and live in a good neighborhood. 451 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: Then I guess you don't have to be the loudest 452 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: because you still have opportunities. And it's just I can 453 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: go on and on and on. I feel like I'm 454 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: going down to fucking no. I mean, I think you're 455 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: you're making a really important point, and and there's something 456 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: even more important underneath that of like, absolutely, you are right. 457 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: We we need advocates. We need people who are going 458 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: to be allies and support us and want to truly 459 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: hear us and believe us. But it's even sadder that 460 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: we've reached a point that without an advocate we can't 461 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 1: even communicate a real truth that's out in the world 462 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: much in the way that you're talking about that like 463 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: George Floyd getting his next stepped on shouldn't be a debate. 464 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: We all saw the fucking video. But if there are 465 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: white allies that then step in and go like yo, 466 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,719 Speaker 1: I think that's not good, then it just goes away. 467 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: Nobody it's all for not. Yeah, it's all for not. 468 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: And it's and it's almost like, so you don't want 469 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: to see movies about slavery, and you don't want to 470 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: watch the video that's fucking real, and you don't want 471 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: to hear about this other cop that shut this other 472 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: black person. So what the funk you want? You just 473 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: want to act like it doesn't happen. Yeah, that's not real. 474 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: You don't want to go to a BLM protest, but 475 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: you definitely want the first row at a Kendrick Lamark 476 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: concert that you know that you know, like like, I 477 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: can't funk with you. So I think that that reckoning, 478 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: that sort of experience that so many people are having 479 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: is such an important one. Like I was watching this 480 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: YouTube video the other day of this white woman who basically, 481 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: and it felt a little bit like a performance, but 482 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: she started crying on her video where she was talking 483 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: about the experience of pregnant women as slaves that like 484 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: slaves the essentially much like cattle, much like we do 485 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: with cows today, that would get slaves pregnant and then 486 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: force them to nurse the master's kids and keep her 487 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: pregnant in wet nurse the entire time in order to 488 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: make sure that she kept keeping the master's kids. She 489 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: didn't have that, yeah, oh yeah, because you can keep 490 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: nursing until you stop nursing. Either way, you're basically making 491 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: some of you're taking a kid away from a lady 492 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: and then forcing her to basically give that milk to 493 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,239 Speaker 1: a different kid that doesn't belong to her for your 494 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: own growth satisfaction. And the woman was crying, and it 495 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: got all these retweets, and everybody was so proud of 496 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: her for all the beautiful words that she's spoken in 497 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: representation of the black community, and a part of me 498 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: was like, I guess, but like I don't need her, 499 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I wish I didn't need her. 500 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: I wish that kind of advocacy wasn't something that needed 501 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: to exist. I wish we could just be honest about 502 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: what these stories are and then move the funk on. Yeah, 503 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: that's a very pragmatic linear way of thinking, and um, 504 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: that's is not how gonna go. If you're a lawmaker, great, 505 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: thank you so much, But that's why men love to 506 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: make laws about women's bodies. That's just not how it 507 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: fucking goes. And it's a very complicated relationship. I mean, 508 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: I had a surrogate to bring my twins to life, 509 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: and essentially it's like almost the same idea, but not 510 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,719 Speaker 1: using someone else as a vessel. So how many of 511 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: those stories were really just women who need to feed 512 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: their child or women that were forced into it. A 513 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: lot of women were forced into it, but a lot 514 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: of them were probably like I'd rather feed this child 515 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: than working a fucking your field, because at least I'm 516 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: doing something for the betterment, you know. And also to me, 517 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: like when I think of that, I just think of 518 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 1: like clarities that movie with them Doogie House or with 519 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: the Goldberg where it's like she she was his um nanny, y'all, 520 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: I'm aging myself, but like, look, she was a nanny 521 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: and he was like ten years old. He was a 522 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: product of divorce, and he started speaking Jamaican Patuan stuff, 523 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: And I was like, well, are we, you know, sort 524 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: of bring everybody closer together by forcing them to be 525 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: with each other or is this just a whole other thing. Yeah, 526 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: it's so complicated. It's tough because if you don't keep 527 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: interacting with that community after a while, you go, man, 528 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: fun them people. I don't know that lady no more. 529 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: I've moved on, you know what I mean, Like, you 530 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: gotta keep a Jamaican person in your house forever and 531 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: always to keep maintaining that intimacy, that care for the 532 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: group that you're representing, yeah, but sometimes you're just like 533 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: I knew this Jamaican lady when I was growing up, 534 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: and so therefore I will be empathetic to people from 535 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: the islands or something. I'll be people from the islands, 536 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: but fucking Nigerian. So I don't give a funk about 537 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:05,959 Speaker 1: It's just tough. It's all before. Okay, let's talk more 538 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: about this propaganda because a former slave, a black man 539 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: who escaped to Canada named John Little, actually wrote a 540 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: little bit about this propaganda. He said, they say slaves 541 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: are happy because they laugh and are married. I myself 542 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: and three or four others have received two hundred lashes 543 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: in the day and had our feet in fetters. Yet 544 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: at night we would sing and dance and make others 545 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: laugh and at the rattling of our chains. Happy men 546 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: we must have been. We did it to keep down 547 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: in trouble and to keep our hearts from being completely broken. 548 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: That is as true as the gospel. Just look at it. 549 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: Must not we have been married. Yet I have done 550 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: it myself. I have cut capers and chains um. And 551 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: he he says all that with the intention of basically 552 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: making it clear, like, yo, we found ways of laughing, 553 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: but that wasn't the heart of what we were doing. 554 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: We were just using laughter as survived Mm hmm, don't 555 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: we all? I think we all do. So where it 556 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: gets interesting is that in slavery. During slavery, characters like 557 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: the Mammy, the coon, the Uncle Tom, the Piccaninny are 558 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: all sort of created as propaganda machines by slave masters 559 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,719 Speaker 1: and by white institutions as a way of demonstrating that 560 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: black people were basically just sort of like dumb and 561 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: ignorant and and happily at peace with their their experience 562 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: as slaves. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, Also, what a narrative 563 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: and also the narrative of colorism that still exists today 564 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: that you are better if you have lighter skin than 565 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: darker skin or whatever the fuck you know they were 566 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: trying to say. It's like that is still so woven 567 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: into the fabric of not even America but all over 568 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: the fucking world, which is really fucked up. What a colonial, 569 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,479 Speaker 1: fucking idea to say you're better because you have this, 570 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: and you are less than because you have that, and 571 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: people still believe it. Ed's fucked up. And I truly, 572 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: like I I refuse, I refuse, And whether I'm getting 573 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: it from that side or this side. I always say, 574 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: we are stronger together. We are fucking stronger together, no 575 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: matter what shape, size, or shade. You know, if you 576 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: want to believe that, then you are believing in a 577 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: patriarchal idea of bullshit. And I thought you were way, like, 578 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: way more open minded. I like that. I think I 579 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: think that type of propaganda, to your point, is the 580 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: manipulation that we can in fact control and and can 581 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: at least do better about controlling and identifying and making 582 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: a choice in. And it's interesting and looking back at 583 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: all this sort of history of like laughter comedy relating 584 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: to the way that we see each other, uh, specifically 585 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 1: in terms of slavery, is that they they didn't have 586 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: that much control in it, right, that they because they 587 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: didn't control the propaganda machine. They were just sort of 588 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: like receiving whatever people decided was gonna be told about them. 589 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: So in Reconstruction, for example, after slavery, the narrative starts 590 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: to shift. A bunch of the slave masters go, well, 591 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: we're not in charge of them anymore, so we don't 592 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,439 Speaker 1: want them to look happy. We don't want to tell 593 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: people that they're laughing and joyous because there now we 594 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: want to present them as like Sambos is dumb idiots 595 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: who can't exist without us. And then once the Sambo 596 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: ship didn't work, they go all right, well, now we're 597 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: gonna tell everybody they're violent, that they walk around here 598 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: with with razor blades in their pockets and they're cutting 599 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,240 Speaker 1: people and raping white women. It's just this weird game 600 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: of manipulating the way that we see ourselves the way 601 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: they see us. And ultimately isn't until now to your point, 602 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: that we actually have some control in the way that 603 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: we get to see each other. Yeah, the man elation 604 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 1: doesn't stop with any fucking group. For a woman, if 605 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: something has happened to her, well then what time was 606 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: she out? What was she wearing? That manipulation is how 607 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: you will always keep people down. And that's why it's 608 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: really up to us to say fucking no, because we 609 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: are always bigger in numbers and in spirit than the 610 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: one keeping us down. And it's very like look, and 611 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: it's always it always comes back to white men. And 612 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: then particularly hadn't love the second half, but I'm listening 613 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,720 Speaker 1: to go ahead. It's just true, and I am married 614 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: to a white man. So this is like very confusing, 615 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: just kidding. I love him. He's a good egg, He's 616 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 1: a nice man. Oh he's such a sweetheart. He's such 617 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: a sweetheart. And that's the thing, like you don't know 618 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: who you're gonna fall in love with. History has told 619 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: us we should be X, Y and Z, but then 620 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: somebodys we have to put together our own a BAC's alright, 621 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: shame on you. Uh, the last thing I'll say on this, 622 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: And I think that this is an important sort of 623 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: connection that takes us out of slavery. This is I'm 624 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: very happy to be leaving slavery behind. But in the 625 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: wake of slavery, I think it wasn't until as I said, 626 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: it wasn't until later that we really got to to 627 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: represent ourselves to the world. And in doing that so 628 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: much a black comedy became connected to physicality, to the 629 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: movement of the body, right, Chris rock Pacing. Uh, that 630 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 1: lady Coco, that comedian Coco who pulled like the fucking 631 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: bottles out of her braw and like had the whole 632 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: like you know, whole comedy, everybody. Yeah, we also come 633 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 1: from a continent of dancing and expressing our body. Through 634 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: happiness and sexuality. I mean, I would love to be 635 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: at Alvin Elly fucking bitch on stage, but money, but 636 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: there is still that physicality, Whereas I think because white 637 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: people got to lean on the written word in in 638 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: some traditional sense, they celebrate comedy or they celebrate laughter 639 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 1: in a much more like focused on speaking way, whereas 640 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: we get to be Cat Williams on a fucking stool 641 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: like a motorcycle and and let that. Yeah, I got that. 642 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: I think it's also weather, like you know, if we 643 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: have to talk about where I hate to be, like 644 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: where white people are from, but America, European. I mean, 645 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: and one of my best friends is Irish, and she's 646 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 1: first generation Irish and not even fully out as a 647 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: gay person because she's in her forties and her parents 648 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: are so Catholic Irish. Even the Irish dancing is your 649 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: hands to your side, you're just using your legs because 650 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: the government didn't want to see you having joy or 651 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: dancing through the windows. They were like coming around and 652 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: checking people. So you just like had to move, yes, 653 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: you just had to move very stiffly and like not 654 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: keep your hands at your side and just look like 655 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: you're like doing an activity at home. You know, you 656 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: were dancing and so there's that and so of course, 657 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 1: like black people are from the land of sunshine, so 658 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: expressing yourself as completely different as in Arabic country's as 659 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: in wherever right, you know, even Russia. It's like a 660 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 1: lot of like work do they get out there making 661 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: the stallion vibe going in everybody gets the fishal way 662 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: because you ain't knocking, but like yes, like so you know, 663 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: I think historically it's like also fascinating to get back 664 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: to like why the dances or rituals are the way 665 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: they are. Yeah, I mean anyways go on county on stage. Yeah, 666 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: the physicality even beyond the stage. And I think it's 667 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: something that sort of lives in the way that we 668 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: communicate comedy even now. Is that with black people at 669 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,240 Speaker 1: least that I've I've noticed when we make jokes, everyone 670 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: can be a part of the joke, right that, Like 671 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: it's a community activity. So when I'm roasting somebody, if 672 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: somebody's roasting me, whatever it is, anybody can jump in. 673 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: And part of what I believe that running to be 674 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: part of what that movement is. It's just tagging a 675 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: fucking joke that already was funny, right that, Like, if 676 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: somebody says some wild shot about you and then another 677 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: nigga runs past, Damn, that joke just got funnier and 678 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,280 Speaker 1: we didn't even have to use words to get it there. 679 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm not mad at that. I mean, like, look, I'm 680 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:44,800 Speaker 1: here for that, a little call back cardio. If somebody 681 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: says something funny and then the nigga Naruto runs in 682 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: the middle of your your your eyeline, God damn, you're 683 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: having a great day. Yeah, man, I mean, I'm not 684 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 1: mad if I tell a joke, if somebody starts doing 685 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 1: us a little mom's work, I'm like, I've done my job, 686 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: thank you so much. Good night. Ever, one of my 687 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: favorite videos that I've ever witnessed, uh a witness that 688 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,240 Speaker 1: I've seen online is, uh, these kids are fist fighting 689 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: in a high school. They're like beating the ship out 690 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: of each other in high school, and then out of nowhere, 691 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: this one black boy he just starts breakdancing in the 692 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: middle of the hallway and he's like break dancing in 693 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: the middle of the fight, and it's so fucking funny, 694 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: and it's just a weird, just question mark slash exclamation 695 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: point that gets added to this otherwise pretty jarring moment. 696 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 1: That's dope. I wish that um more people just had 697 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: the need to dance in the middle of islands. It's 698 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: so Michael Jackson in a parking lot with a fake knife, yes, 699 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 1: in a motorcycle jacket. Why not? Michael was right, he 700 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:56,280 Speaker 1: never did anything wrong. We love you, Michel. We're gonna 701 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: take another break. We'll get back from more Michelle, buto 702 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: and more. My mama told me, and we are gets 703 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: the rebound, passes it to the man, shoots it and 704 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: boom goes to dynamite. Yeah, we're back here with me 705 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,919 Speaker 1: on the show. I'd love to have chat Hanks. Unfortunately, 706 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: he uh, he's white and we ain't. We haven't stepped 707 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: into the white space. How black many motherfucker's and that 708 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: would be fucking fascinating. Listen, I'll say this, everybody's been 709 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: real mad at him because he said it's gonna be 710 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: a white boy summer, and I was like, I don't know, man, 711 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: that's some funny ship. And we just appreciate a silly 712 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: billy when he's being a silly billy, you know what 713 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 1: I mean? He is a silly billy, Okay, I want 714 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,959 Speaker 1: to play a game with you. This is a fun 715 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: game called something to go on the internet was saying 716 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: something that's cool as we put this on bitches like you, 717 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: it's a fun game whe where. I am going to 718 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 1: introduce to you a clip from one of our fans, 719 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 1: and plenty of our fans send us wonderful clips, and 720 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 1: I would love for you to just react, give me 721 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 1: your full thoughts on everything that this person says. And 722 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: I picked out something I don't know any way. I 723 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: picked out somebody I know you're gonna enjoy. So I'm 724 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: very excited for you. Here we go. Oh fuck, Okay, 725 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,800 Speaker 1: hey Langston and all your fans from the my mama 726 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 1: told me community. We love conspiracy theories, right, So I 727 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 1: got this school one. My name is could See and 728 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 1: I'm all the way from Berlin, Germany. I'm a huge fan. 729 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 1: I'm black, by the way, originally from Africa and the 730 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: maybe of the Motherland, and I'm gay of course, as 731 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: you can hear my voice. That's another conspiracy and of 732 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: its own about the gay voice. You know. Okay, fine, 733 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 1: So what I want to talk about it is, um, 734 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 1: I believe that my mom told Okay, my mama didn't 735 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,359 Speaker 1: tell me, But that's the gift of it all. Like 736 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:09,800 Speaker 1: Tyra Banks as a secret undercover agent. She either works 737 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: for the c I A, KGB whatever undercover or m 738 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: I six or whatever. Because you should watch all old 739 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 1: episodes of America's Next Top Model. It's like the challenges 740 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: they do. It's like models in real life don't do 741 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 1: those challenges. They need to walk sideways from the top 742 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 1: of a building, take photoshoots underwater, avoid I'm getting bulldozed 743 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 1: on with wrecking balls on the runway, like crazy, crazy challenges, 744 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,720 Speaker 1: much as well as her show, The Tyra Banks Show, 745 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:56,839 Speaker 1: another very weird time in television, I think circa two 746 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 1: thousand and four or five six, when Tyra was at 747 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: the peak off the show and everything. That's just crazy. 748 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: So just check into that. Even the one from America's 749 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,720 Speaker 1: Next Top Model that we know of today see around 750 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 1: is Ava Marcel the first win ever and America's Next 751 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 1: Top Model has had White more than twenty cycles. We 752 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 1: never hear from the other girls. Is it because they 753 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: undercover agents too, like they get recruited. Very interesting? Check 754 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 1: into that. Love you guys love the podcast all right 755 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:40,439 Speaker 1: there It is that I can quite follow, but it's 756 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,800 Speaker 1: probably quincay. It's real. Was that a real person, a 757 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:48,320 Speaker 1: real person who really submitted and and uh, my favorite 758 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: part of it was I have so many favorite parts, 759 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 1: but I love him opening and being like, I am black, 760 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 1: just so you know I'm black. I know my voice 761 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: sounds like I'm not black, but I'm from Berlin. And 762 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 1: then he was on to say and I'm gay. Would 763 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: you can hear my voice? And he's like, which is 764 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: a whole other thing. Oh my god, it's real. What 765 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:15,240 Speaker 1: do you think of Quincy's uh theory that Tyra Banks 766 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:21,400 Speaker 1: is a secret CIA operative? I get it. Tell me more, please, 767 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: I get it. Like, look, conspiracy theories aren't always the 768 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 1: most popular take, especially at a dinner party, so you 769 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 1: might ostracize yourself by even having an opinion or going 770 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 1: against the grain or even saying, you know, this might 771 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:41,320 Speaker 1: be some mind control. But when somebody is so fucking 772 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 1: popular and they just know how to sort of, you know, 773 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 1: connect and control all these pieces and people behind and 774 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 1: in front of the screen, you're just like, okay, okay, 775 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,240 Speaker 1: what do you know that? I don't know it a lot, 776 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:04,399 Speaker 1: so you know, I don't know because you know what 777 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 1: Tyrot says a lot about herself. She shares a lot, 778 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 1: but she doesn't like Oprah share. She doesn't even like 779 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: Obama's share. She's just like I understand cankles and then 780 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 1: like just makes women do wild ship. This is like, 781 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 1: do you because I don't know that much about you. 782 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 1: I haven't seen you do it. You're just making people 783 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: do it. So like, look, what is that guy Tony Um? 784 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god, No, I think I don't know. I 785 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 1: know he um. He is like a life coach. Yeah, 786 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 1: she's sort of like the modeled Tony right, Like you 787 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 1: don't know why you're showing up and paying thousands of 788 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 1: dollars to subscribe. You're just like, my life will be 789 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 1: better if I know what's my Yeah, I there he 790 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 1: There was a few moment. It's where he started to 791 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 1: sell me on his theory, largely in that that idea 792 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 1: of of mind control and the idea of getting them 793 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 1: to do physical activities that don't apply to the job 794 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 1: that they're actually uh signing up for. So it's like 795 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 1: they're learning to be models, but you have them scaling 796 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 1: a building and it's like, y'all could have did this 797 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,359 Speaker 1: in green screen. I know for sure these women ain't 798 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 1: scaling buildings every week to get this perfect shot for uh, 799 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 1: you know, Polo cologne or whatever the funk. And I'm 800 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 1: just like, what the fund does a scavenger hunt in Japan? 801 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 1: Got just why you have to cut her hair off? Yeah, 802 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 1: you're you're really making people make some weird choices that 803 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 1: feel on the other side, you have a different plan 804 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 1: for them than we anticipated. I don't know if it's 805 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a conspiracy, but there is 806 00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 1: something very strange going. I will say that I didn't 807 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 1: love the the addition of the Tyra Banks talk show 808 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,279 Speaker 1: and him being like, you can figure that out, you 809 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 1: go do some work on that. There was no suggestion 810 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 1: of what might be the possible connection here. It was 811 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 1: just like it was weird. Figure it out. He's like, 812 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 1: I gave me the one and to figure out the three. Yeah, 813 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 1: And he was like did he say no Maybia? Is 814 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 1: that what he said? The motherland? The motherland? It's like, 815 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,360 Speaker 1: isn't it the whole continent? But I don't know, specifically 816 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,840 Speaker 1: said I don't know either. Do I look like a 817 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,479 Speaker 1: like a big city Indiana Jones? I don't know. Well, 818 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 1: thank you so much. Quincy. There was a beautiful submission, 819 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 1: and I think you can you can rest safely knowing 820 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 1: that Michelle and I are are sort of on board 821 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 1: with your theory that Tyra Banks is a CIA operative, 822 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,799 Speaker 1: but not on board with the maybe being the mother 823 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 1: of the mother country. It's not we don't know for sure. 824 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 1: We are neither Lauren Crop to you. I don't know. 825 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,120 Speaker 1: Neither of us are big city to Indiana Jones. So 826 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 1: you gotta figure that out on your own, all right, 827 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,360 Speaker 1: Please cut that out. No, that's staying in Michelle. We 828 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 1: did it. This was so much fun. Can you tell 829 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,720 Speaker 1: the people where they can find you? What cool stuff 830 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 1: you have going on? All of that? Oh my god, 831 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 1: I mean find me if you want to. I'm hosting 832 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:22,839 Speaker 1: The Circle season two on Netflix. Are you gonna look 833 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 1: at my special Welcome to Beutopia? I tied with Jerry 834 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 1: Seinfeldt for Critics Choice Award, which is and Pajamas. You 835 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,239 Speaker 1: can watch First Wives Club season two coming out on 836 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 1: b E T and b ET Plus in this and 837 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 1: there's something else I don't remember. And it's okay because 838 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 1: I pay my taxes on time and my kids are 839 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:46,240 Speaker 1: cloth and fat. She pays her taxes, she's on TV 840 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 1: and her kids eat sometimes She's fantastic. Give it up 841 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 1: one more time for Michelle, butto so great, so happy. 842 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,440 Speaker 1: You will appeal and as always you can follow me 843 00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,399 Speaker 1: at Lankston Kerman and please, if you want to send 844 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 1: us drops, you can send them to my mama pod 845 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. We would love to hear from you. Okay, 846 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 1: that's everything. Bye. Because of baies, my crop chips in 847 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 1: your pails, a quala bears are racist, costly, mostly money 848 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 1: version many turny stuff. I can't tell me