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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Helman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Monday, September fourteenth, twenty twenty, season sixteen, episode

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Speaker 1: number twenty two. Welcome to another edition of The Break.

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Speaker 1: We are alive in this WBC Mortgage studios at the Star.

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Speaker 1: Nick and I are joined by Dave helm and Amber Garcia.

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Speaker 1: They are at their homes and we're gonna talk some

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Speaker 1: Cowboys football with you guys for an hour. We're coming

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Speaker 1: off the first game of the season and Cowboys lose

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Speaker 1: to the Los Angeles Rams twenty to seventeen. Nick's gonna

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Speaker 1: give us an idea at some point during the show

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Speaker 1: of what the scene was like there. He was at

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Speaker 1: that new beautiful stadium so far right now, you want

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Speaker 1: to do that quick? All right? Yep, that's very much

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Speaker 1: what it sounded like like that, you know. Actually, the

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Speaker 1: funny thing is I said on the show last week

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Speaker 1: I think it was last week. I said that I'd

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Speaker 1: been watching some college games and I that I didn't

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Speaker 1: really notice the crowd not being there. Yesterday, it was

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Speaker 1: very apparent to me that there was no crowd there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why, but for some reason, even the

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Speaker 1: energy just feeled like it felt like it was very

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Speaker 1: very different. Dave Ember, did you guys notice the same thing? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all I hear is day's papers. Oh I'm sorry, Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking through my stats. Am I bad? You have

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Speaker 1: to look for stats to talk about the environment. That

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Speaker 1: was good? Okay, what you got. I'm just getting my

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Speaker 1: talking points ready, Derek. Okay, all right, tell you what show?

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Speaker 1: I know this. Okay, let's go jump right in. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'll just say this though about that, like, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I saw some games earlier in the day and the

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Speaker 1: Thursday night game and all that, But I mean this,

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Speaker 1: if you have like a little bit of add which

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Speaker 1: I maybe I have sometimes when you're not always paying

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Speaker 1: attention and all of a sudden, but I was telling

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Speaker 1: Dave this, when the crowd will tell you look up,

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Speaker 1: and that doesn't happen. You know, you just hear whistles

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Speaker 1: and you hear the other side I mean, that's one

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Speaker 1: thing they were saying they could hear the calls from

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Speaker 1: the other sideline, so they got to crank up that

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Speaker 1: that noise a little bit. It was kind of interesting

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Speaker 1: because I thought that the NFL gave all the team's

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Speaker 1: license to have crowd noise. My assumption is they decided

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Speaker 1: we're good without crowd noise, and it may make sense

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Speaker 1: for some teams that offensively, they're like, you know, we

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Speaker 1: don't really want a lot of crowd noise. We like

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Speaker 1: to be able to just run efficiently, and we think

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Speaker 1: we run best when we don't have to deal with

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Speaker 1: crowd noise, even home crowd noise. Right, Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: but I think it was a bad product just just

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Speaker 1: from listening to it. I don't know what it sounded

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Speaker 1: by first going around and asking everyone what did you

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Speaker 1: think was the biggest story coming out of that game. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: there were a lot of things that happened in that

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Speaker 1: coming out of the game. Let's start first with you Amber.

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Speaker 1: but I just think I just think that honestly, waking

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Speaker 1: as I thought initially. I don't feel terrible. My biggest

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Speaker 1: of all that talk about hope and change, I saw

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Speaker 1: pretty much all of the familiar hallmarks. Pass rush that

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Speaker 1: player that didn't look up the snuff like. It looked

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Speaker 1: a lot like last year, which is a bummer after

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Speaker 1: They were kind of they were stifled too many times

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Speaker 1: and kept shooting themselves in the foot. I thought the

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Speaker 1: of all of what you guys have said about that.

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Speaker 1: It actually reminded speaking of what Dave was saying, it

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Speaker 1: actually reminded me of the playoff game when the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: It really looked to me as though, you know, I

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Speaker 1: But the Cowboys look to be way more surprised by

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Speaker 1: all this secretive, all this hiding for what what you

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Speaker 1: McCarthy talked about how you know, he spent this year

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Speaker 1: I expected that, if nothing else, they would come in

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Speaker 1: with this really unique game plan and unique way that

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Speaker 1: let's it does kind of strike a blow for Oh,

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Speaker 1: and that looked like, you know, weeks four to seventeen

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Speaker 1: is again Amber alluded to it, but I think that's

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Speaker 1: how long each of those players will be out? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: you have to do what you gotta do to heal it. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: kind of like it's like Sean Lee, did he ever

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Speaker 1: where we typically butt heads. But I liked it. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean the play didn't work. I thought, Dalton, you know,

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Speaker 1: they ran a mesh concept with two receivers go in

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Speaker 1: opposite ways. I thought, Dalton Schultz probably could have run

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Speaker 1: his route deeper to draw defenders away. Ceedee Lamb, obviously,

432
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Speaker 1: maybe run your route to the sticks next time. Also,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jordan Fuller made a hell of a play

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Speaker 1: for that matter, Like as we always say, like the

435
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Speaker 1: other guys get paid too. Jordan Fuller awesome play on

436
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Speaker 1: his part. That happens sometimes. But I thought, you know,

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00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were outplayed. It's one thing if you really

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Speaker 1: trust your defense and you want to play that game

439
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Speaker 1: and kick a fuel goal and you think you can

440
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Speaker 1: stop him, that's fine. I don't think anybody felt confident

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Speaker 1: about that. I love the idea of going to get

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Speaker 1: the touchdown, taking the lead, and dictating the last eight

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Speaker 1: nine minutes of the game. We talk about how the

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Speaker 1: pass rush couldn't generate pressure because of the way the

445
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Speaker 1: Rams were playing. That's a way to fix that is

446
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Speaker 1: to take a you know, a four point lead that

447
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: takes the Rams out of the field goal game and

448
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Speaker 1: and sort of helps them play into your hands a

449
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Speaker 1: little bit. I loved it, and for that matter, something

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Speaker 1: we always hated about the way Jason Garrett did things.

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Speaker 1: In Jason Garrett's era, they would have run the play

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Speaker 1: on third down, see what they got, and decided what

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Speaker 1: to do from there. They probably would have burned a

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Speaker 1: time out discussing it. Jason Garrett would have looked really angry.

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Speaker 1: But and I don't know this. We can talk to

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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore about it later today. From my vantage point,

457
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Speaker 1: it looked like Kellen Moore saw a favorable look in

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Speaker 1: the box and said, all right, let's see what Zeke

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Speaker 1: can do on this third and six, and we're gonna go.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go on fourth down no matter what happens

461
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Speaker 1: unless they lose yards. And and we're thinking two plays ahead.

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Speaker 1: That's something that they never did under Garrett. Absolutely were,

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Speaker 1: they were thinking a play ahead, which they never did before.

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Speaker 1: It didn't work. But I love the aggressiveness of it.

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Speaker 1: You know, people that are mad about it, basically you're

466
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Speaker 1: just saying you only want to go for it if

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Speaker 1: you're in no man's land. It's not Jason Garrett did

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Speaker 1: not true at all. No, I want to hear it.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear your part. Well, no, here's the deal.

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Speaker 1: Here's the deal I think. And first of all, I'm

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Speaker 1: not one of those people that was on Jason Garrett

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Speaker 1: about those kinds of decisions. I tend to be more

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Speaker 1: conservative when it comes to games like that. A very

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Speaker 1: very close game. You got teams in my opinion, that

475
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Speaker 1: were pretty evenly matched. I know, as we were looking

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Speaker 1: at it, we're thinking of cowboys the defense playing horrible

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Speaker 1: offense can't get it done. But this was a close game.

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Speaker 1: These teams were evenly matched, and in a game like that,

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Speaker 1: to me, you give your chance, your team every chance

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Speaker 1: to win, and you give your team every chance to

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Speaker 1: stay in the game. And I look at just the

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Speaker 1: previous series before that Cowboys stalled on the RAM fifteen.

483
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Speaker 1: I think it was where they had the same thing,

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Speaker 1: had two incompletions and end up having to kick a

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Speaker 1: field goal. And my thought is what gave him confidence

486
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Speaker 1: in that moment after just on the previous drive you

487
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Speaker 1: had two get in completions to finish it off to

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Speaker 1: where you had to kick the field goal. What made

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Speaker 1: you think on this drive, all of a sudden, you're

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Speaker 1: now going to get that first down and keep your

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Speaker 1: drive alive. I hadn't seen a lot of consistency from

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Speaker 1: this offense throughout the day. I didn't have very much confidence.

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Speaker 1: My thought is you do what you're gonna do on

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Speaker 1: third down. I love the play call. By the way,

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Speaker 1: on fourth down, I think the idea was right. I

496
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: think you were trying to get that rub to where

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Speaker 1: to where you could get this guy free. And by

498
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 1: the way, if he gets free. Oh my god, he's

499
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: probably may get to the end zone, who knows. But

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Speaker 1: so I love the play call. I think they should

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Speaker 1: have done that on third down. And then if you

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Speaker 1: get the first down, great, If you don't, you take

503
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Speaker 1: the points. You live to fight another day and you

504
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: still are in this game, right. I think at twenty

505
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 1: to seventeen, as we saw it, like it just there

506
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: wasn't enough there. I didn't think you were gonna necessarily

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Speaker 1: just drive right back down and get right back into

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Speaker 1: position if you didn't get it, I think you needed

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Speaker 1: those three points. Yeah, but I just think to just

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Speaker 1: to make just to say when you said, who's you know,

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Speaker 1: why did he think that? Why did he think that

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Speaker 1: was going to happen? You know when the previous you know,

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Speaker 1: possession on offense. But you could also make the case, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, what makes them think that they're gonna get

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Speaker 1: the ball back of the game tied and their kicker

516
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Speaker 1: is gonna make a lung field goal? You know? I mean, like,

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Speaker 1: not only did he did he miss the kick, it

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Speaker 1: seemed like he was kind of getting close to those

519
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Speaker 1: uprights and some of the other ones as well. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know how confident they were The one thing

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Speaker 1: I will say though, and I think we've all noticed

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Speaker 1: this during training camp. Sirline has been pretty money during

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Speaker 1: training camp. The one area he hasn't been is fifty plus.

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Speaker 1: So that fifty three miss, I don't put that on him.

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Speaker 1: It is what it is. You miss fifty three yards,

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Speaker 1: it's fine, Like that is not a huge deal. So

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Speaker 1: I think you're you're playing. You're playing to get yourself

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Speaker 1: into at least a forty six, forty seven or less,

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Speaker 1: is the way I look at it. I'm not unless

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Speaker 1: I absolutely have to. I'm not necessarily lying on him

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Speaker 1: to kick fifty plus yard field goals. But again, I

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Speaker 1: just feel like at that point they had a better

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Speaker 1: opportunity take your three points, tie up the game, and

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Speaker 1: let's see where it goes from that second down. How

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Speaker 1: about that? I mean, he fired that ball in his

536
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Speaker 1: shouts and he dropped it. I mean it was a

537
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Speaker 1: tough catch, but it was There's so many moments in

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00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: that game where Schultz's name came up and it wasn't positive.

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00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's kind of amazing that that

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Speaker 1: that's kind of where they were, but the fact that

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Speaker 1: they felt like he was the best option to come

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00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: in after you know, Jarwin goes down. Does make me

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Speaker 1: wonder a bit like what's happening with Blake Bell they,

544
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Speaker 1: I mean, they went out and signed him as a

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Speaker 1: free agent. My expectation was he was the second tight

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Speaker 1: end on this team, but it does not look like

547
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Speaker 1: that from what we've seen. It's going to answer that

548
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Speaker 1: first day. Blake Bell is not that guy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's never He's really never been receiving tight end in

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Speaker 1: his entire career. Granted, I know Dalton Schultz has done

551
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Speaker 1: much of anything. Hey either, I know that, but I

552
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: mean that that's Blake Bell. I don't think was brought

553
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Speaker 1: here to be a viable part of the passing game,

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Speaker 1: not on a regular basis At this point, do you

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Speaker 1: think they have to? And I honestly, unless they are

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Speaker 1: sold that Cole Hiccottini can do it, then I don't

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00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: know that they that they might have to go look

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Speaker 1: somewhere else. You know, people are tweeting me about Delaney

559
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: Walker or trading for David Joku. I don't know. I mean,

560
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: he's on the practice squad. He seemed to have a

561
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: decent camp. But if that's not the answer, then I

562
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: don't think the answers on the team right now, honestly,

563
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: and that's you know, obviously we're already getting sarcastic tweets

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Speaker 1: about what we saw at training camp. I stand by

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Speaker 1: what I said. Dalton Schultz had a really solid training camp.

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Speaker 1: But the thing you got to remember is every year

567
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: at training camp, somebody looks good in practice and wilts

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Speaker 1: when the lights come on in the preseason. The differences,

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Speaker 1: we didn't have a preseason, so not all of them,

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Speaker 1: I mean, not all of these guys were going to

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Speaker 1: be ready when the lights came on, and it's one week.

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Speaker 1: But like I said, I mean Dalton Schultz, he had

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Speaker 1: a built in opportunity to make his case when Blake

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Speaker 1: went down and it didn't happen for him, and I

575
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: don't think they can get away with letting that be

576
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: for too many more games. Let's go ahead and take

577
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Speaker 1: our chefs. I was. I was just gonna say, I'm

578
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Speaker 1: no scout and I barely know any football, but based

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Speaker 1: on everything that I've seen from Schultz, I have not

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00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: seen a single thing that makes me want to keep

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Speaker 1: him on the team. And I know that he had

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Speaker 1: a second good half of training camp, but at the

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Speaker 1: same time, not enough for him to earn that second

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Speaker 1: done enough to be a guy that you can be

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Speaker 1: maybe it's not fair to say because again, like Dy've

588
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Speaker 1: at the same time, there is no way that the

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Speaker 1: think they were important to the game. It was five

642
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: fourteen left in the fourth quarter h third and fifteen

643
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: at the Dallas seventeen Cowboys tried to throw our Dak

644
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: tried to throw a pass to a Mari. It would

645
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: have been a seven yard game. He kind of grasped

646
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: it for a moment and then Jalen Ramsey put a

647
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: big hit on him and he let go of the ball.

648
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: My question for you guys is do you have fault

649
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: with a Mari over that or is that just one

650
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,239
Speaker 1: of those plays where Jayleen just made it. I mean,

651
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: jay Ramsey just made a great play. Kellen Moore, I

652
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: have a problem with Kellen Moore on that play. Okay,

653
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey's covering Michael Gallop. Why are they right there?

654
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: Spread the field a little bit. He comes off of

655
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup, he's running, He's there's too close. If it

656
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: Gallup needs to clear or get out of the way.

657
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: Get Jalen Ramsey out of the way because he comes

658
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: off of that and makes that hit on him. Yeah,

659
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: catch the ball, Mary Cooper, that's what twenty million dollars

660
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: a year is supposed to be. But at the same time,

661
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: get the All Pro one hundred million dollars cornerback out

662
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: of the picture. And I thought that was a kind

663
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: of a bad play design by them, Camber, I think

664
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: it's a combination of both. Honestly, Amari Cooper, that wasn't

665
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: the only play where he just didn't seem to be

666
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: doing what he's supposed to do as a receiver in

667
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: with his hands. He there were several locations where you

668
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: just felt like he didn't want to catch the ball

669
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: or something. Again, I might be the road game theme

670
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: maybe come back again this year. We'll see, but he

671
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: just needs to play better as far as that. Dak Prescott, Honestly,

672
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: I thought he had a pretty nice game. I know

673
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: that a lot of people are criticizing him in this game,

674
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: but I thought he did a nice job based on

675
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: what he had and what could do. I think that

676
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: play was more on Amari Cooper. Yeah, for reference dec Head,

677
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: he was twenty five or thirty nine, two hundred and

678
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 1: sixty six yards a touchdown, no interceptions, and then had

679
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: a thirty yards rushing All in all, a pretty pretty

680
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: good day for Dak Prescott. Dave, did you find fault

681
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 1: with Cooper on not catching that ball? Yeah? I remember

682
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: being shocked last night when I said I found fault

683
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: with it, and you were kind of like I don't know.

684
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey's pretty good. I'm like, I'm no, twenty million dollars.

685
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: It hits you in both hands. You gotta you have

686
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: to make that play. And I know it's hard, that's

687
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the NFL. It's always gonna be hard.

688
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: You have And look, I mean, everybody knows I'm the

689
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: Dak apologist. That's fine. But that drop, the bizarre sequence

690
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: where Amari was running across and the ball hit him

691
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: on the thigh and he like looked surprised that the

692
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: ball was there, very weird. And then we already brought

693
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: up Schultz. But I mean two or two or three

694
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: players that could have extended drives and helped that third

695
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: down number that Dak just didn't didn't get as much

696
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: help as he could have. That's for sure. You brought

697
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: up that third down number. Dak was one of seven

698
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: on third downs, not a great number, um and then

699
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: obviously on the final drive of the game, he couldn't

700
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: get his team down there to to score to win.

701
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: Are you guys at all concerned that maybe this is

702
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,479
Speaker 1: what we were seeing last year? The Cowboys behind Dak

703
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: just good enough to be in the game, not good

704
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 1: enough to get the win. Yeah, it's concerning the clutch.

705
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: The clutchness, that's a word, is not there um like

706
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: it should be, and we just haven't seen it. We

707
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: haven't seen them beat teams that are good teams, and

708
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: we haven't seen him come back at all in the

709
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: second half. So that's that's a that's or you know,

710
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: it's it's a concerning trend. It's early. I mean, this

711
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: is early in the season. They're a close game, a

712
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: couple of plays here and there, but like Dave and

713
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: Amber both said, it was like like we've seen last year,

714
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: and that's that's what we're supposed to see. A bunch

715
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: of big changes. We really didn't the final moment that

716
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: I did want to talk about, Dave gs, I'm on

717
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: that Wait can I can? I I'd have to rebut

718
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: there because yeah, I mean, I'm and hey, they didn't

719
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: get it done. They lost. I get it, and and

720
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot of blame to go around. Dack certainly

721
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: wasn't perfect, but I saw clutch moments. I saw a

722
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: hell of a gutsy, freaking run on a third and

723
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: eleven to put the ball near the marker. I saw

724
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: him hit Michael gallop and stride for forty seven yards

725
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: on a throw that would have changed the game. We're

726
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: getting there, we can argue about I know we're gonna

727
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: get I mean, the throw was the throw was freaking money. Yeah,

728
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: it was time. I consider that clutch I and I,

729
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: like I said, you know, if if if, ifs and

730
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: butts and all that fun stuff didn't win the game.

731
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: But I thought Dak Prescott played a hell of a

732
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: game and didn't get as much help as he could have.

733
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I saw the same things as last year

734
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: in the sense that the offense was nowhere near as

735
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: innovative as I think it could be with the amount

736
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: of talent that they have, and the guys around Dak

737
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: didn't help him as much as they could have. Amari

738
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: Cooper two plays that could have been made to extend drives,

739
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz miscues in the red zone killing touchdown chances.

740
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: But I have a hard time putting most of it

741
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: on Dak Prescott. That's for sure. You alluded to it.

742
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: And I want to get to this final moment that

743
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: I thought was pretty much the game. If you want

744
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: to wrap up the game, it was the game. It

745
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: was the moment that probably would have turned this game.

746
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: Thirty one seconds left in the game. It was third

747
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: and ten from the Dallas thirty four. Doesn't look great, obviously,

748
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: that's pretty bleak. But Cowboys or Dak Prescott throws the

749
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: ball deep to Michael Gallop forty seven yards would have

750
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: been the completion down to the Dallas nineteen. Here goes

751
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: fly offensive pass interference against Michael Galloped A big question.

752
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: Do you agree with the call? Let's start with you Amber.

753
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are disagreeing heavily, but

754
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 1: I honestly I'm okay with it. I think that when

755
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: the guy, from my understanding, when the receiver fully extend

756
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: that arm, that causes for the ref to bring attention

757
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: to it, and usually it gets called that way. I

758
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: think that it should not have depended on that specific play.

759
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: I hate when games get to the point, and I

760
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: know that's part of football. It all can come down

761
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: to one single play. But at the same time, the

762
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: Cowboys should not have been in that position to begin with.

763
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: And many people want to start nominating this guy for

764
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: an Oscar and all that, but hey, that's another part

765
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: of the game, you say. I know it's not soccer,

766
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: but Hey, if you gotta do what you gotta do

767
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 1: to play it up and fake more if you want

768
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: and cause a scene to get what you need you're

769
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 1: trying to get as far as the game. But all

770
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: in all, I just think the play the call. I

771
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 1: don't disagree fully, but at the same time, I just

772
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: don't think you should have depended all in that single play.

773
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: Dave you agree with the call by the strict by

774
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: the strict letter of the law, it was probably the

775
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: right call because, in my personal opinion, the game moves

776
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: so fast. NFL referees have touchstones that they look for.

777
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: You can the dead thing in Green Bay is a

778
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: perfect example. By the strict letter of the law, the

779
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: ball moves when he hits the ground, he doesn't have

780
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: control going to the ground. They call it an incompletion.

781
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: By the strict letter of the law. It's probably right,

782
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: but it's Bogan. So the NFL sees the arm fully extended,

783
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: and that's what they look for. They say, oh, his

784
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: elbow is all the way extended. That's a push off.

785
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: That's a flag. But really, with thirty seconds to play,

786
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: all pro corn back against eleven yard receiver, like nobody

787
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: wants to see Lebron win the game at the free

788
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: throw line. We want to see plays, we want to

789
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: see fun stuff and the balls on the nineteen Cowboys

790
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: have a time out. By no means is it a

791
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: guarantee that they're gonna win or even tie the game

792
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: from that distance. Like, there's still plenty to play for.

793
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: So it's not like the penalty completely swings the game.

794
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: You just gotta let football players play football in that instance.

795
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: But by the strict letter of the law, I don't

796
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: have a problem with it. I just think learned to

797
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: know the situation referee. After the after that play, I

798
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: got a bunch of text messages and I got I

799
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: got all three of them. I got dog, horse, and chicken.

800
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, all of them. And I was not huh

801
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: uh oh no, no, yeah, bull not dog, Sorry, okay,

802
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: wow yeah bullick in horse Okay. And I you know,

803
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, since it was gallup, I

804
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: think it was closer to horse. I think, I mean,

805
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: I know, a terrible joke there, But I do think

806
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: it was a very bad call. At the time I

807
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: thought it was. I thought it was a bad call.

808
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: I thought Jalen sold it well. But let me ask

809
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: you this next week, that same situation and Julio Jones

810
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: and Anthony Brown are running down the sideline, do you

811
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: think that call is thrown that way? I just think

812
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: it was a reputation, Like Michael Gallup cannot do this

813
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: to Jalen Ramsey. I honestly, but I personally don't believe

814
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: in football rests get into that. I think that's a

815
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 1: basketball thing. I do think you gets you get calls

816
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: based upon your reputation in the NBA. I don't think

817
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: that happens in football as much. That's my personal opinion.

818
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: I honestly think next, and here's where I thought you

819
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: were going with that, is if next week that exact

820
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 1: same situation plays out and Julio is there with Anthony

821
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: Brown and his arm is fully extended, how many of

822
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: the people that are saying that call should not have

823
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: been made last night are gonna say, yeah, good job,

824
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: ref his arm was extended. I think we all agree

825
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: or should agree that, according as Dave says, according to

826
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: the letter of law, it was appenally. Now, whether you

827
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: want to call it in that situation, I can see

828
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 1: that that may be one of those things where it's

829
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: so it's so, it's so light of an infraction that

830
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: you don't let the game hinge on that. And to me,

831
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: the game hinged on that, And so maybe you don't

832
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: make yourself a part of the game in that way

833
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: if you're the referee making that call. But it's hard

834
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: for me to say that it was a bad call.

835
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: That was the right call. It just the question is

836
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 1: whether he should have made it or not. In my opinion,

837
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: I've seen worse, which he shouldn't have. Yeah, I just

838
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: I've seen I've seen worse, and I just think it's

839
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: a situation where, you know, defenders do a lot, you know,

840
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: a lot worse to get the call, But on offense,

841
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: it's like any kind of push or anything like that.

842
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: I think they're calling that a lot more now, you know.

843
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: Then it's kind of like the block charge in basketball.

844
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: You know, it just seems like it's a lot easier

845
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: now to get a charge than a block call because

846
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: everyone's kind of looking for it now. So I don't know,

847
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: I don't know this rule I asked you this before,

848
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: or is PI not challengeable anymore? I know it would

849
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: have to be a booth review, But did they get

850
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: rid of that? I didn't see it at all yesterday.

851
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: There's been a thousand rule changes. I don't know if

852
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: that was one of them. Yeah. I didn't see any

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Speaker 1: calls in the football I watched yesterday of an offensive,

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Speaker 1: a challenge or whatever. But it would have been nice

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Speaker 1: to look at it because then you would have seen

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey kind of it would have been Booth review anyway, right,

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Speaker 1: booth review. But at least you see that he's acting.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think in that instance. Again, I don't

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Speaker 1: the player went back. Now it was acting, we all

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Speaker 1: get it, but that's still gonna be. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna overturn now. I think I can

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Speaker 1: make a decision whether you want to make the call.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you overturn it based on that. When

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Speaker 1: did Michael Gallery gets picked up on review? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree, But I just didn't realize gallup and hit

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Speaker 1: the weight rooms like that. Geez all right, guys man,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you joining us today. It's been a it's

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Speaker 1: been a rough first first week. We're gonna get together tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back on the air at eleven thirty, and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna start moving forward. We're gonna get some big

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Speaker 1: picture looks at this team. We're gonna re redo our

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Speaker 1: our segment that we did last Friday of I know,

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Speaker 1: I think and I have no idea. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: a little bit about those things. We'll bring some of

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Speaker 1: the ones we had from last week up and see

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Speaker 1: if there's any clarity in some of those, but also

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Speaker 1: we'll give you some new ones, some fresh ones give

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Speaker 1: you a bigger perspective look at this team as we

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Speaker 1: get ready for Cowboys versus Falcon. So then for Nick Even,

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