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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: We just started out the morning with Ashley telling me

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Speaker 2: she's got stuff to say It's almost Famous podcast.

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Speaker 3: I'm Ben, I'm Ashley. My stuff to say is about

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Speaker 3: the episode. So do you want to go there or

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Speaker 3: do you want to have a little host chat first.

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Speaker 4: I want to dive right in, Ashley.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think right now in our lives, it

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Speaker 2: feels like Bachelor Nation has consumed my week. I told

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Speaker 2: you before we got on, I've just been feeling blue

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Speaker 2: this week. I don't really know why. There's not like

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Speaker 2: a good reason. There's nothing pointed too. It's not like

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Speaker 2: I'm laying in my bed paralyzed with you know, anxiety

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Speaker 4: I've had those seasons. But I'm just blue, and a.

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Speaker 2: Little bit of it is Ashley that I feel like

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Speaker 2: last week, you know, we did two episodes. Obviously, we

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Speaker 2: did the headline episode and we did the break that episode.

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Speaker 4: I just feel like there was a lot of headlines

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Speaker 2: People I knew that that like had so some sort

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Speaker 2: of emotional effect on me. Sometimes we were at a headline,

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Speaker 2: I don't know these people, We're just breaking down a story.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about it, we're assuming things. Last week felt

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Speaker 2: like there were headlines that hit very close to home,

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Speaker 2: and we're getting into some of those headlines and follow

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Speaker 2: ups on those headlines this week or later on. But

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Speaker 2: it just I think it just affected me because it's

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Speaker 2: not fun to hear they weren't exactly good head like,

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Speaker 2: they weren't like uplifting, heam up. You have to be

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Speaker 2: specific y no no no no, no no no. They have

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Speaker 2: to go back and listen to our podcast that was

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Speaker 2: posted on our thread, and then later on here in

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Speaker 2: the podcast when we break down headlines. We're gonna have

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Speaker 2: some follow ups on some of these headlines that we

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Speaker 2: talked about. But if you haven't listened yet, I'd just

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Speaker 2: say pause, here, go back. Click on the episode that

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Speaker 2: was posted right before this one. It breaks down some

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Speaker 2: big headlines in Bacheloration.

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Speaker 4: Ashley.

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Speaker 2: Let's jump into breaking down this episode. It's episode seven

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Speaker 2: of Charity season of The Bachelorette. She has three and

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Speaker 2: a halfman. Uh, well, there's like one.

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Speaker 3: Is it's almost like it almost like eagles out.

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Speaker 2: To three though it does almost that, yeah, because like yeah, yeah, sure,

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Speaker 2: and then we point so we have three people three

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Speaker 2: three men in Fiji with Charity uh actually going into

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Speaker 2: this episode, if you can go back before you watched it,

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Speaker 2: I think you and I both assumed that Dotton and

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Speaker 2: Joey were the favorites. I said, Xavier.

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Speaker 3: Saying Xavier the entire season. You've been saying he's your

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Speaker 3: pickth the entire season, and I have every week been like, Ben,

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Speaker 3: are you just trying to be different here?

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Speaker 4: You coirky? No, so okay.

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Speaker 2: So, if if we were to say it, I had Xavier,

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Speaker 2: Dotton Joey, you had Dotten Joey Xavier kind of as

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Speaker 2: your leads. I really expected this week to have some turns.

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Speaker 4: Because sure did it did.

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Speaker 2: Because I felt like this season, even though I've enjoyed it,

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Speaker 2: I've liked watching it, I've had a good time with

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Speaker 2: it, it hasn't had those dramatic, like memorable scenes or those

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Speaker 2: memorable twists and turns like you know some previous seasons.

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Speaker 2: I knew the show was going to try to find

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Speaker 2: some way to bring some type of spice because we're

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Speaker 2: getting late in the season. And yes, the mentel All

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Speaker 2: usually has some type of spice to it, but it's

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Speaker 2: base doesn't usually get great ratings. They found a way

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Speaker 2: to bring in some spice this week, didn't they?

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Speaker 3: They did they They did a good job. And that's

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Speaker 3: the twist. I'm assuming that Charity had told us. Remember

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Speaker 3: know it'll be you'll know what it is. I think

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Speaker 3: is the Xavier moment, not so much the Aeron moment.

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Speaker 3: We actually have no idea of what's coming with the

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Speaker 3: Aeron situation. She's kind of pressed pause on him. But

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Speaker 3: it's kind of what she's doing. She's like, can you

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Speaker 3: But it's like, it's not like you're gonna get extra time.

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Speaker 3: She's gonna like throw him into next week where it's

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Speaker 2: No, I mean I think it. I think it actually

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Speaker 2: I think the moment she's talking about was not this episode.

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Speaker 2: I believe it's gonna be in the next episode. Oh really,

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Speaker 2: why I'll tell you why, but let's start from the beginning.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So, okay, Charity Charity is in Fiji with Joey Dotton

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Speaker 2: and Xavier. The first overnight is with Xavier. They have chemistry,

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Speaker 2: Xavier has I've made it no secret that Xavier has

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Speaker 3: And we weriting people why you think that is?

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Speaker 4: Well, Okay, it started funny enough. It started during the

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Speaker 2: He was, you know, there's some people being pretty ridiculous

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Speaker 2: I was more convinced when Xavier had a very quiet storyline.

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Speaker 2: He didn't even get involved in the drama. In fact,

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Speaker 2: He was kind of never shown. And I feel like

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Speaker 2: that's a typical thing for somebody who makes it really far.

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Speaker 4: Typically the person that ends.

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Speaker 3: Up with the lead at the end, no, because you

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Speaker 3: He had two one on ones back to back. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the storyline which was like just let you know, don't

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Speaker 3: know if I could propose. He and then like, I

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Speaker 3: don't know, you seem like a lot like my ex.

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Speaker 3: There's been like way more. There's been like actual like

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Speaker 2: I would say, I will admit I'm wrong. But let's

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Speaker 2: start at the start of their date. I am excited

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Speaker 2: This date from the beginning felt uncomfortable. Not because of

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Speaker 2: From that moment on, I was like, he has a

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Speaker 2: point said Charity, you need to send this guy home.

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Speaker 2: He's not ready. He didn't share like I think. He

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Speaker 2: said the line of you like a beautiful flower that

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Speaker 3: Reminded me of that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like why would you want to crush me?

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Speaker 4: In general? Like why would you want to crush any flower?

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Speaker 3: Basically he was saying, like I can see myself hurting

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Speaker 2: He's just admitting that, and so I had my guard up.

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Speaker 2: I felt like at that point in my mind, actually

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Speaker 2: I said, Ashley was right, I've liked.

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Speaker 3: Xavior, Like that's the thing, Like I've always liked him

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Speaker 3: I want to know how long there. Well, well, let's

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Speaker 3: talk about like little marriage moment. That also felt weird, right,

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Speaker 3: So they did like this ceremony. It was like a

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Speaker 3: it just like you just kept thinking, She's probably thinking

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Speaker 3: I shouldn't be mocking this with him I should. If

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna mock this, we'll do it with the other two.

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Speaker 4: Whoo or disagree, Ashley.

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Speaker 3: I thought her mind was like, i'm'd be down to

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Speaker 2: I've okay, So this is a good point for us

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Speaker 2: to skip into. Then their evening conversation where things kind

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: That is obviously something that Charity has been worried about

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Speaker 2: big person, right. You don't need to do that in

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Speaker 2: It meant I think a lot to her.

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Speaker 4: That he did.

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Speaker 2: But I feel like his follow up to kind of

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Speaker 4: Okay, So here's the point that you're.

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Speaker 3: Saying, showed no emotion in his face. Showed no emotion

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Speaker 2: And here's to go back to what you were saying

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Speaker 2: he continued to say things I was like, whoa, Like, oh,

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Speaker 2: that makes it a little worse. That's not any better.

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Speaker 2: I felt like she wanted Xavier around. I feel like

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Speaker 3: She definitely tried, and it seemed as if, like with

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Speaker 3: almost every comment, he was trying to get eliminated. I

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Speaker 3: part of him certainly did.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we don't know, right, we can't can't say, but

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Speaker 2: I would say, after watching this episode, I would agree

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Speaker 4: I think he sat there. I think he was scared.

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Speaker 4: I mean the line that he.

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Speaker 2: of them to us and unlet's react.

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Speaker 3: Okay. There was the one time where he was like,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna try my hardest not to remember, and her

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Speaker 3: eyes like blew up. I'm going to try my hardest

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Speaker 3: not to cheat on you, basically is what he said.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, holy shit, dude, I can't believe

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Speaker 2: She did because because okay, let's pause here, because you

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Speaker 2: and I are both married, many of the listeners are married.

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Speaker 2: We got married because we are deeply in love with

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Speaker 2: like there are those times where you're like, holy crack cow,

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Speaker 3: I'm a fairly I can get pretty down. Yeah, and and.

437
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 2: It affects not exactly I thought I thought about you. Yeah,

438
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 2: I can get pretty down it and it does affect

439
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,160
Speaker 2: how I function in the world and kind of how

440
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 2: I respond to things, and also how I respond in

441
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 2: my romantic relationships and my friendships, et cetera. I will

442
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 2: say it was like, I didn't understand this conversation. I

443
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 2: don't know why his uncle would be referring to this.

444
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,679
Speaker 2: And maybe it's just because it's how I am that

445
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 2: I don't see it as this massive negative or something

446
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 2: to necessarily bring up. Like the people in my life

447
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 2: who know this about me, it would be frustrating to

448
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 2: me if they would also be like, yeah, this is

449
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 2: like a problem in his life too. It's like, well,

450
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,959
Speaker 2: you're just making it worse, Like, yeah, you're not helping me.

451
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 2: Like like if anything, you know that I'm sensitive, you know,

452
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,679
Speaker 2: I feel things, you know, I experience things. You know

453
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 2: that like at times, like my mind goes to a

454
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 2: place that others don't because like I want I want

455
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 2: to be a tune to my emotions and the emotions

456
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 2: of the other people around me. To me, that's a

457
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 2: in my life. It's something I'm proud of about myself.

458
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 2: Now it's not always the healthiest thing, but it is

459
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 2: something I'm proud of, and it's something that I'm glad

460
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 2: I experience. And so it would be weird to me,

461
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 2: like when his uncle says this last week and then

462
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 2: this week, this is what Joey thinks he's referring to.

463
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 2: I don't understand it.

464
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 3: Still, well, it's not precisely what the uncle was saying.

465
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 3: He said that, you know, Jogah, so Charity says, like

466
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 3: your uncle said, there was another version of you, and

467
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 3: he goes, well, honestly, I was just uncomfortable in that moment.

468
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 3: He was like, I was kind of hosting you. I

469
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 3: wasn't prepared for him to come. I just felt nervous

470
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 3: and not like myself. He thinks of that what the

471
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 3: uncle was picking up on. Okay, I don't know that

472
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 3: he's saying that, Like the uncle thinks that he's like

473
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 3: that his moods are something that worries him.

474
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, for anybody that knows anybody who is it

475
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 2: like this?

476
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.

477
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: The one thing I think could have helped hear them

478
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 2: that I'm confused by is Joey's attitude kind of changed

479
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 2: throughout the the episode last week. And you would think

480
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 2: that Charity would see that and his uncle would see

481
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 2: that and be Okay, he was just in a weird

482
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 2: funk like there was he was. He was overwhelmed or

483
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 2: he was a little thrown off and but but he

484
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 2: got back on track and he figured it out, and

485
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 2: we can see how he cares about Charity and how

486
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 2: nervous he was when Charity left the way she did.

487
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 2: And uh, and we understand who Joey is, and we

488
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: understand that Joey's going to go through these ups and

489
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 2: downs and we just get it, like we get him

490
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 2: and we and we le that about him instead it

491
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 2: kind of and maybe we didn't get to see that

492
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: fallow up conversation, but it did feel like it kind

493
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 2: of was this overwhelming weight of negativeness. And that's not

494
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 2: fair to Joey because he's not doing anything wrong last week,

495
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 2: he was just overwhelmed.

496
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I also think we're over right now. I think

497
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 3: she like kind of understands. I think she trusts I

498
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 3: get it, and it's funny. It's like, Jared is very

499
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 3: much like you, so I know this, and he always

500
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 3: told me. He always used to warm me because I

501
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 3: used to be like Jared. So he's so perfect, like

502
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 3: literally like what you have, like no flaws, and he

503
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 3: was like, flaws, believe me, you'll see it. And now

504
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 3: whenever he's like in his dark zone, he's like, I

505
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 3: told you, and I'm like, yeah, well you know, of

506
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 3: course it doesn't. It's just it's like, yeah, those those

507
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 3: parts of somebody you cannot see for quite some time.

508
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 3: But also, if it's true love, it doesn't deter you

509
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 3: at all.

510
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 4: It doesn't deter you. No.

511
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: But I do think they move on. I think this

512
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 2: date was really nice, really beautiful. It makes me think

513
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 2: that Joey has a better shot than I originally expected.

514
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 3: Let's talk about a big thing that Charity seems to

515
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 3: have absolutely no problem doing and no shade to her

516
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 3: at all. She's happy to say I love you to too,

517
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 3: man like she has. She's not trying to hold back.

518
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 3: She's like, I'm excited that I can do this.

519
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

520
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 3: I don't know if she I don't know if it's

521
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 3: just like now a thing that you're able to like

522
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,959
Speaker 3: do on the Bachelor, it's expected.

523
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 4: I don't know anymore.

524
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's going to affect the other guy.

525
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 3: To me still, and I say it every week, Joey

526
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 3: feels like boyfriend love and Don Shul's like husband love.

527
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 3: I'm surprised how she she seemingly is just absolutely torn

528
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 3: between the two, but she loves Joey I have.

529
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I would hope that you wouldn't have any

530
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 2: shade when it comes to this, and I know you

531
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 2: don't because you and I have talked about this at

532
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 2: length over the last few years when we've done.

533
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 3: This so many times. This has come up.

534
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: Now and I've explained, you know, to you kind of

535
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: how and why.

536
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 4: I did it the way I did it.

537
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, watching watching this, this is one of

538
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 2: the first times I would say where I've watched Charity

539
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 2: express this this week and I'm like, I believe it,

540
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 2: Like how could anybody criticize her for this? Like she's

541
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 2: just living in the moment and for us on television,

542
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 2: we see it and it's like ten minutes apart, right,

543
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: it's two days apart. There's a lot of emotions that

544
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 2: go into it, a lot of things to figure out

545
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: within it, and I believe that she feels this way.

546
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: I believe she's excited to share this because she hasn't

547
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 2: yet with them. I also believe that she has some

548
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 2: confidence and explain expressing this because.

549
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 4: Dotton is so understanding.

550
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: Like if she ends up with dot And at the

551
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: end of this and he watches us back, I'm sure

552
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: he's gonna be like, this sucks to watch. I don't

553
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 2: like watching it. I don't enjoy this, but I get

554
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 2: it and it's part of the experience. He brought that

555
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: up to her this week, like I understand that this

556
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 2: week is weird and I understand kind of how it goes,

557
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: but I just want you to know that I support

558
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 2: you in it.

559
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 4: Like for a lead, that's a very comforting thing to hear.

560
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: I don't change my stance, And if Charity was on

561
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 2: this podcast right now, I don't change my stance where

562
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a wise thing to do. I

563
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 2: don't think it's a helpful thing to do. I think

564
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: it is. Uh, it ultimately causes more pain than good.

565
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: And I at the time when I said I was

566
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: hoping it caused more good than pain. Yeah, I don't

567
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: change that stance at all. And so, you know, call

568
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: it a criticism or call it a you know, high

569
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: like some hindsight. I would love to talk to her

570
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: at some point we will and say, hey, was this

571
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: Do you feel like this was worth it to do

572
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: what you needed to do? But you want to say

573
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 2: it because you feel it and it's your truth. And

574
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: that's all you're trying to do in this experience is

575
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: live in some sort of reality and truth. And that's

576
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 2: the only thing she knows right now is her feelings

577
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 2: and emotions, and so she needs to get it off

578
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: her chest. She wants to tell these people, hey, no

579
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: matter how this ends, I care about you and I

580
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: get that. So I understand now.

581
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 3: I think it's it's very sweet because I think that

582
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 3: when she sang it to them, she wants them to

583
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 3: know that they were that like the feelings are reciprocated

584
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: and that like there's a choice on both ends. Okay.

585
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 3: I think if you do save it till like the

586
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 3: final row ceremony, you're kind of saying, like, everything here

587
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 3: is my choice because you obviously will be here waiting

588
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 3: for me. She wants them to know that she loves

589
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 3: them back. Yeah, so that they like feel really like

590
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 3: they just have a full experience.

591
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: I think I will tell you something. I think charity

592
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: is actually very different than my experience. And here's one reason. Yeah,

593
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: here's the reason why they said to her first, both

594
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: of them. Oh, and I think the reciprocation is important,

595
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: that like, hey, I get it.

596
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm there too.

597
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 2: I lead with it, and I think that's where, you know,

598
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: that's where the big difference is. I think she handled

599
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: it better. I think hers ism is more fair, it's

600
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: more understanding. It's coming from a place of I just

601
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: don't want you to feel alone in this, and I

602
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: want you to know that you're not alone in this,

603
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: where for me it was more unhealthy because it's something

604
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: I led with and I, as a result, led the

605
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: emotions on. So I do think a little bit different. Uh,

606
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: actually maybe a lot different. And that's why I watch this.

607
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, I, you know, I don't feel like this

608
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: might I don't think it's going to cause as many

609
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: issues at the end, however, I will say, it is

610
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: wild to me that this show has gotten to this

611
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: point where it feels like this is a storyline every

612
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: season now it's like kind of like boring to even

613
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,959
Speaker 2: talk about because every season now people are expressing this,

614
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: And when I did it, everybody was like, how could he?

615
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: This is unheard of, this is new, It's not new

616
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: no more.

617
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: That's so true. Okay. I was very curious watching this

618
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 3: because it just did truly feel like she loves both

619
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: of them. Mm hmm, Like how does that feel to

620
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 3: be in love with two people at the same time?

621
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: And is there like you have to feel like there's

622
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 3: a discrepancy, like you have to feel more for one person,

623
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 3: Like right, I don't know.

624
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I think you like different things about each

625
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: and you've had different experience with each and at this

626
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: point you're trying to compartmentalize each. We'd have to talk

627
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 2: to Charity and hear her experience. It would be a

628
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 2: great question for her. For me, it was mostly overwhelming.

629
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 3: You know.

630
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 2: It wasn't like a joy It wasn't she seemed to

631
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: be like very joy filled about she is.

632
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 4: Yeah. For me, it was more overwhelming. It was more difficult.

633
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: And I think part of that is too based on

634
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: what we're talking about with Joey, Like I just got

635
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: really down on myself and on the experience and the

636
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 2: pain that something was about to cause. And in a sense,

637
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: it was like should I just get out of this thing?

638
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 4: Like is it?

639
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: Am I so unhealthy with my emotions? Should I just

640
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: like should we just all try it, like start over

641
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: and try this some other way. I didn't enjoy it.

642
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: It wasn't something that I wanted.

643
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 3: We see that she won't. He says, why why I

644
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 3: shouldn't be saying goodbye to somebody that I love?

645
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I I think there's also this just a

646
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: personality type. So ILL have different personality types. Like for me,

647
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: and we've talked about this. Most of the people in

648
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 2: my life that I've been able to date leading up

649
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: to then marriage, like I care about that person still,

650
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: And Jessica knows this, like I don't wish ill will

651
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: on them. I care about them. I want to see

652
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: their life flourish, and like I if something like bad

653
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: would happen to them, like I would still hurt in

654
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: a way that is like different than maybe you know

655
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: a distant friend or a stranger, I would I would

656
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: feel that emotion of it because you do care and

657
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: so you allow your I think there's just people that

658
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: are sensitive again sensitive to this stuff and allows themselves

659
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: to feel things differently than others, where I know some

660
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: of my friends are like I never want to see

661
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: talk here, speak to my you know ex Ever, again,

662
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: different situations, but you know, I've been lucky enough to

663
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 2: date some really incredible people and so yeah, you still

664
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: care about them. And I think that's part of it too,

665
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: is you just you want what's best and you see

666
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: this and you're like, I'm gonna end up hurting somebody

667
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: I care about.

668
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, let's go to the other man that she

669
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 3: carries and loves dont Yeah. Uh. They got to go

670
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 3: to a sandbar for their alone time during the day,

671
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 3: and he's his fillinger with compliments. Sure, it's just it's

672
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: really nice. He just like can't get over the fact

673
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 3: that like everything is going so well and that she's

674
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 3: so beautiful, and like the families that they love each other.

675
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 3: It's just it's a great situation. And then they talk

676
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 3: about how they've like really not had any hiccups along

677
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 3: the way, and it's true they haven't. It's been drama free.

678
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

679
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: I uh, this is the first time I've watched their

680
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 2: dates together and I've said, this is this could go

681
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,959
Speaker 2: down as one of the best Bachelor love stories ever.

682
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never felt that way you said it.

683
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: I've never felt it until this week, where I was like, yeah,

684
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: this is good. And their conversation it was easy, it

685
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 2: was comfortable, it was engaging, it.

686
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 4: Was honest, it was real.

687
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 2: Like it just felt like, yeah, of course, like I

688
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 2: can't not see these two together.

689
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 3: Yes, thank you Ben okay. So I was looking forward

690
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 3: to it all episode long. I think that they made

691
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,959
Speaker 3: it the last one so that we'd be like, oh,

692
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 3: what's it coming? One's it coming? Because when I watch

693
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 3: them together, I smile and I feel like I'm watching

694
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 3: a Bachelor love story, Like I haven't seen it so long.

695
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 3: It's really thrilling.

696
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 4: It is thrilling. I I'm very excited for them.

697
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 2: I'm going to be shocked if those two aren't together.

698
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 3: They have to be.

699
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: They have to be. I don't think there's any any

700
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 2: question in my mind now. Now, I do think that

701
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: the Joey situation. I think Joey's your next Bachelor one.

702
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna be really hurt. I think he

703
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 4: cares a lot.

704
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: I think he is going to see this love story

705
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 2: playoff and be like it makes more sense now I understand,

706
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 2: you know, why she chose him, and I understand how

707
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: much she cared about me, And I think it's gonna

708
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 2: be a kind of a a point where we go, yeah,

709
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: he is the next bachelor, Like I don't. I don't

710
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: think that's a question either. I don't know who else

711
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: they would choose. And there's a reason why they haven't

712
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: announced somebody early like they have in the past, because

713
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: I think they're waiting for him to be eliminated. So

714
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 2: I do think he's an next bachelor. I think he's

715
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: gonna be ready and great at it. But yeah, this,

716
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: this this situation with dot.

717
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 3: Is I'm really it's so good. It's so good to watch.

718
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 3: That's what I wanted to say at the top of

719
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 3: the show, Like I'm very excited about a love story. Yeah,

720
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 3: and I think I think it just feels it's very

721
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 3: fun for me to watch them. I get I look

722
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 3: forward to it every week. And yeah, so let's just

723
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 3: briefly talk about the rest of their conversation leading up

724
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 3: to the fantasy suite. It's kind of like this is

725
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: a fairy tale. I'm scared because it's so perfect, but

726
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 3: I should be scared because it's a fairy tale and

727
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 3: it's real. It's great and it's scary, but I love it.

728
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 3: That's basically how it goes.

729
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's like, I mean, this date honestly, it's too.

730
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 3: Perfect, which is why it's scary. But we have to

731
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 3: just accept it as wonderful.

732
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 4: It was like one of the most like.

733
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 2: For me, at least like forgettable dates in a long time,

734
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: because it was just too good, Like there was nothing

735
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: to it, like other than just like, hey, how awesome

736
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 2: is that we get to spend time together?

737
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 4: Hey, this is really awesome.

738
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: Okay, see yeah, let's you know, go spend an evening

739
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: together and let's do this for the rest of our lives. Cool, Okay,

740
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: it just it's it's perfect and it is it is beautiful.

741
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: I'm excited for the two of them. I'm going to

742
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: be shocked next week if it's or in two weeks

743
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 2: if it's not him. Yeah, that will be one of

744
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: the biggest twists in recent memory for me, you know.

745
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 2: So and then we'll finish this ups so we already

746
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 2: talked about it. Aaron does show up, and the cliffhanger

747
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 2: is that she is considering I guess is what we're

748
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: gonna say it as to keep him around. The previews

749
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 2: for next week are the only reason why he confuses me,

750
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: because we see him walking down the beach in a suit,

751
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 2: which could just be b roll that they got while

752
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 2: she was thinking about it.

753
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 4: And actually they never really.

754
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: Totally what it has to be, right, I don't know,

755
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 3: I mean it has to be it has to be.

756
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, next week is Mentel all Ashley, which.

757
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 3: Oh, like, honestly, uh yeah, And I got so disappointed

758
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 3: when I was, like when I found out that I

759
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 3: have to wait two weeks to see more love because

760
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 3: I'm just so enjoying watching it that I was like, no,

761
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 3: I can't wait two weeks, which is a great feeling,

762
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 3: but like, oh, mentell all And then I'm looking at

763
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 3: these men and I'm like, why is it Bryden and

764
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 3: Sean the only ones that I remember from this bunch.

765
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Mentel every season is it's a filler episode.

766
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: We've said it like, it's not one that we look

767
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 2: forward to. It's not one because at this point we

768
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: just are excited about the love story, and we're excited

769
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 2: about seeing this couple thrive and then having them on

770
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: the podcast to talk to them about how great their

771
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: life is and how cool this experience was and all

772
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 2: those things. The Mentel Law is a filler episode. It's

773
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: not one of our favorites. It feels like it just

774
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 2: causes a platform for people who were either eliminated on

775
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: week one through two to speak up and have one

776
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 2: last memorable moment so they can maybe make it to

777
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 2: paradise and uh, but yeah, we gotta we gotta fight

778
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: through it. We will be breaking it down here on

779
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: the podcast, and then we'll be very excited for the

780
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: following week where we get to uh to watch Charity's

781
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 2: love story come to conclusion.

782
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 3: Ben, can we talk about the preview? Yeah, because it's

783
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 3: the chat that she has with her mom that is thrilling.

784
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 3: She's like, Charity, you know, you have to know what

785
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: you have to know? And she's like, I don't know,

786
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 3: and I'm like, Charity.

787
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, that's a weird week. It's a weird

788
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 2: week because you, I don't want to say this, you

789
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 2: aren't really able to express to your family exactly how

790
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 2: you're feeling.

791
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 3: Oh, oh tell more? Why well, because if you did,

792
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 3: then they be partial to whoever you're feeling.

793
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly so.

794
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 3: You really just want a neutral point of view.

795
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 4: You want a neutral point of view.

796
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 2: You might know, but you got to kind of just

797
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: like be like, I just want your honest opinions, Like

798
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 2: I want your feedback based on how you know me

799
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: and how you know these people, and I want to

800
00:40:59,520 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: hear it.

801
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 4: And so it's a little weird.

802
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: Because I have a feeling Charity would really be like, yeah,

803
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: I really like this guy, but she can't. She doesn't

804
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: want to do that, and it's and it's kind of

805
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: I don't it's a part of the not manipulation, but

806
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 2: it's a part of the prep where it's like, do

807
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: you really want them to be just sold out on

808
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 2: one person or you want there on his opinion. If

809
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: you want there on his opinion, you got to leave

810
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 2: it pretty open and you go into it believing that.

811
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: And I also I don't see a problem with it

812
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: as much as it would just be helpful if you're like, hey,

813
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: you're meeting this guy and he's the one, and like

814
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: you should just invest in him. The other guy's great

815
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 2: and you should hang out with him, but like know

816
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 2: that he's just a really good time and he's not.

817
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 4: Going to be the one at the end.

818
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 3: No, I get this, Ben, But what it seems like

819
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 3: with her mom is that, like her mom's met both

820
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 3: of them, she's using her mom as help, Like I

821
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 3: think she I think she wants her mom to be like,

822
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 3: I'm preferential to this person, because what else would it

823
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: be because they're like behind the scenes. And she's like,

824
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 3: you have to know, you have to.

825
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 2: Know you do want them to be preferential towards the

826
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 2: person that towards Yeah, However, you and I have both

827
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: watched this show for a long time now, we know

828
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 2: that typically the person that stands at the end is

829
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 2: not the person that the family rallies rallies around the

830
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: best peers.

831
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 4: I think it's a peers.

832
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 3: I do you do think that it might be a

833
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 3: little bit edited for di Ust to be thrown off? Right?

834
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 4: Yeah? Why not?

835
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: I mean if it was so, if it was so

836
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: convincing and so clear from this week on, then you

837
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: know that. I mean, I guess I could argue that

838
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: the ending episode would still be as exciting and thrilling

839
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: and just beautiful. But this show loves to keep people

840
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 2: on their toes, and they love to make it a

841
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: question until the end, and That's just what the show's

842
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 2: always done. It's been a part of their you know

843
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 2: format and their bread and butter, and so I just

844
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: I think, based on knowing the show, they're going to

845
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,919
Speaker 2: keep us questioning until that last moment where we see

846
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 2: whoever it is walk out of the limo you know first,

847
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: and we know that that's not the person at the end.

848
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 2: So I think the show just thinks that people will

849
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 2: want to watch the conclusion more if they don't know.

850
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I know, But how they get her to

851
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 3: say that?

852
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 4: Who knows? Ashley? I don't. I mean that the show

853
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 4: does wild things.

854
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 3: Well, they do dress up Aaron in a tux sure,

855
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: just for us to think that he's included, which she's

856
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 3: definitely not.

857
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: How wild it would be if like the whole conversation

858
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 2: with her mom ended with her mom being like Charity,

859
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: it's Aaron, like you.

860
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 3: Know that hilarious soon.

861
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 4: So not Aaron.

862
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: Hey, Ashley, we got big headlines to break down. We

863
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: do have some follow ups from last week's special headline episode.

864
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 4: Let's jump into him now. It's official.

865
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: We didn't want to make any massive claims. We did

866
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: have our speculations fairly confident and that's why we chose

867
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 2: to speak about it in last week's headline episode that

868
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: it was going to be coming down soon. But bachelorations

869
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 2: Caitlin Bristow and Jason Tartick have split. They call off

870
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: their engagement after four years together. This is according to

871
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 2: US Weekly.

872
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 3: And according to them on their instagrams, as they posted

873
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 3: a joint statement yesterday. You guys can go read it,

874
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 3: but what you take from it is that, like, this

875
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 3: definitely seems to be a split that was particularly difficult

876
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 3: because they both love each other and respect each other

877
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 3: so much, and I think that they still very much

878
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 3: enjoy each other, and I think this is just them

879
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 3: being like not compatible partners long term for life. But

880
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 3: there's absolutely nothing that went wrong specifically, there's no blowout.

881
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 3: I think this will be a really healthy split. I

882
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 3: don't think there's gonna be any back and forth in

883
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 3: the public. You know, we're not going to be having

884
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 3: headlines like we do with Caitlin and Sean five years removed. Yeah,

885
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 3: And I think that makes it even more difficult a

886
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 3: lot of the times, because you can't like look back

887
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 3: and be like oh this ah that it's just like, oh, well,

888
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 3: we just weren't meant for each other.

889
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there was obviously something right. You don't

890
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: just come to this conclusion because nothing happens.

891
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 3: I think it's general incompatibility. But like this is also

892
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 3: me just spitballing.

893
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I've I think it's telling for me

894
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 2: that this was a a healthy split, if that even

895
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 2: is a thing, because of the pictures they both posted

896
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: of each other, like looking back on the memories and

897
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: looking back on the times together and doing it with

898
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 2: admiration like that typically doesn't happen.

899
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 4: If it wasn't a healthy split.

900
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: We would see some joint statement that was like, hey,

901
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: we need privacy and we just aren't right for each other,

902
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 2: and that's where it would end. But then the follow

903
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 2: ups of the two of them kind of sharing like

904
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 2: this was a beautiful thing and we respect each other

905
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 2: a lot, I think shows that, yes, this is a

906
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 2: healthy split. It's a sad split because they you know,

907
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 2: you and I have both been around them quite a

908
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 2: bit and they did seem really good for each other.

909
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 2: But and we do see them, you know, off cameras

910
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 2: and away from the public, and it did feel like

911
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 2: the two of them could work. And I maybe why

912
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: they're frustration. You know why it's such a sad thing

913
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 2: for the both of them because I'm sure there was

914
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 2: many times where like, yeah, this is like the most

915
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: beautiful thing ever, but obviously you know they weren't compatible.

916
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's it is so sad, and it was

917
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 3: a lot of time. They're together for pretty much four

918
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 3: and a half years.

919
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 4: So let's talk about for a second.

920
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: Mean, Kaitlyn obviously is somebody who has for you know

921
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: what eight years now we've seen go through the bachelorette

922
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 2: process and uh into now this stage of her life,

923
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 2: and she is somebody that I know personally and I

924
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: know she wants to be a mother, a wife, have

925
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: a companion. Like It's It's not like Caitlin is not

926
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 2: very interested in that. And then Jason, obviously, I've I

927
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 2: took a huge road trip with him and we've spent

928
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: a lot of time together. I know he is very

929
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 2: excited for that stage of life as well. And I

930
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 2: think when I watched and I saw this, that was

931
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: one of the saddest parts to me.

932
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 3: That's what I think of the most.

933
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not gonna be able to do that together.

934
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: And I think they both believe that that could have

935
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 2: been could be with the two of them doing that

936
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 2: side by side, and and so now that the I

937
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 2: think that once they move on from this and they're

938
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 2: ready to get back on the world, which could take

939
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: you know, like we always say, there's not like a

940
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: time period of how long it should take.

941
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be hard.

942
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: I do it's a public breakup, and those really hard

943
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 2: to then bounce back into the dating pool and find

944
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 2: somebody that you can connect with and move on with quickly.

945
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 2: And that is sad to me because I know Caitlyn

946
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,919
Speaker 2: wants to do it quicker or sooner rather than later.

947
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that like what we saw with

948
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 3: Caitlyn last time was really exciting for us. I know

949
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 3: it wasn't exciting for Sean, but like for us to

950
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 3: see something and for Caitlin, but then for it for

951
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 3: like its seeming like her bachelor experience was all for

952
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 3: a reason, and it was. It was all for a reason.

953
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 3: Even if she ends up with nobody from a bachelorination,

954
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 3: look what she's done and the impact she's had on

955
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 3: so many people. But it was just like nice for

956
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 3: us to be like, oh that didn't work out, well,

957
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 3: Look she's with this other guy from the show. Was

958
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 3: all meant to be like this, and can we just

959
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 3: start it out there? Bachelorette twenty twenty four Kaitlyn Preston. Holy, well,

960
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 3: she won't do it, Like she won't do it, And

961
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 3: I'm just kind of joking because like, obviously she's not

962
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 3: good do it, but like talk about bringing the writings back.

963
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: I agree, No, I mean, I think we can probably

964
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: end it there. It's sad, it's hard.

965
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 3: And we're all rooting for both of them, rooting.

966
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: For both of them, I agree, rooting for both of them. Well,

967
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 2: onto some exciting announcements. Bachelor Nation's Amanda Stanton is pregnant,

968
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 2: expecting the first baby with husband Michael This according to

969
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: Yahoo Yep.

970
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 3: So she she put it out there a couple of

971
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 3: days ago. I know that this is something that she's wanted,

972
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 3: and we don't know whether it's a girl or a

973
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 3: boy yet. I think it's due. The baby is due

974
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 3: in January. I feel like, why is like everybody do

975
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 3: in January?

976
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't.

977
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: I don't.

978
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 3: It's very exciting and for them, and she showed off

979
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 3: her baby bump at the Taylor Swift concert this weekend.

980
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 3: We'll have to have her on to talk about everything.

981
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 3: Like I think, I think it was very much like

982
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 3: time and they were trying and it was planned. She's

983
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 3: natural cycles, but like I just want to know, like

984
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 3: all her feelings because it's different. She has the two girls.

985
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 3: The two girls are older now, you know, I think

986
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 3: they're like like eleven and nine or something like that.

987
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 3: And now new husband, new baby. I think she's probably

988
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 3: really excited to see how the girls are going to

989
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 3: be big sisters this baby.

990
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, I mean, they're gonna be great big sisters.

991
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 2: I can't see Amanda without a daughter. It's weird for

992
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 2: me to think of her with her wants a boy.

993
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 3: Like I've not wanted to even say this because like,

994
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 3: you know, you hate that there's like any sort of

995
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 3: like wish, but like I know that she wants a boy.

996
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: It's just weird to think about because she's such a

997
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 2: girl mom like that. I know they're you know, her

998
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 2: girls are are so mature and like grown up now

999
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 2: that it'd be weird to think of her with a boy,

1000
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 2: but it would be, uh, it'd be spectacular either way.

1001
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 2: We're excited for them. Actually, we're really kind of like sandwiching,

1002
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 2: good stories are bad. But Michael A says he and

1003
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 2: Daniel Maltby are keeping things private amid split speculation. This

1004
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 2: according to US Weekly, the reason that this is somewhat

1005
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 2: sad or concerning to me is in this article, and

1006
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: we'll have you break it down here, he does talk

1007
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 2: about a public relationship and how it isn't fun, it's difficult,

1008
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 2: all those things, and they want to keep things private.

1009
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 2: Typically though, that isn't a great signation.

1010
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 3: And it's they're over. I mean, I'm sorry, Yeah, it's

1011
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 3: you don't go from having a public relationship that formed

1012
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 3: on the show and then being like, oh, yeah, I

1013
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 3: don't want to talk about it.

1014
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 4: I guess Rachel Lindsay has done this.

1015
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 3: She has decided and been pretty clear that she's not

1016
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,240
Speaker 3: really going to share a lot about Brian going forward.

1017
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,439
Speaker 3: She kind of cut that off a couple of years ago,

1018
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 3: which I think does make people like whenever there's like

1019
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 3: a rumor, like a blind item that says there's a

1020
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 3: bachelor couple that is on the rocks, a lot of

1021
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 3: people will go like, oh, Rachel and Brian, well that's

1022
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 3: they just don't share that part of their life. But

1023
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 3: like in the case of Danielle and Michael, they.

1024
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 2: Had shared so much of their life, sharing so much,

1025
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 2: and then they just stop, and it makes you go, huh.

1026
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 2: So we'll wait and see for like if if it's official,

1027
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 2: if it's not, we'll keep everybody a tune. But he

1028
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: does speak to it, and he is answering questions about it.

1029
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, like all we could say is he

1030
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 3: said is on August third, so just a couple of

1031
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 3: days ago. He said, Danielle and I both agree that

1032
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 3: the only people that should be in our relationship is

1033
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 3: the two of us, So we think that just the

1034
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 3: healthiest way to have a relationship is to keep it private.

1035
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 3: They very much love each other, sure yeah, but sure yeah,

1036
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 3: love each other as humans at this point, and I

1037
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 3: just don't think it's romantic. Then this one hurts for

1038
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 3: me because I know and I'm like very much sounding like,

1039
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 3: oh it's over, it's overs over, like no emotion. I

1040
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 3: really like the two of them. They've seems so amazing

1041
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 3: and we don't want to be like, we don't want

1042
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 3: it to be over. It just seems like it very

1043
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 3: much is. And you know, in this situation where he

1044
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 3: has a son, they've been together for a year. If

1045
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 3: it's not going to work out, you know, don't drag

1046
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 3: it out.

1047
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 4: I suppose, yeah, don't drag it out.

1048
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 3: I feel bad because she also moved to Cleveland for

1049
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 3: him the area.

1050
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

1051
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 2: It's just sad for me. I had a lot of

1052
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 2: high hopes. Ashley final headline exciting for me? Actually is

1053
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 2: it seems like Jesse Palmer is the host of The

1054
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,240
Speaker 2: Golden Bachelor, which makes me happy.

1055
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 4: I'll tell you why.

1056
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, it makes sense.

1057
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 2: The only reason that I was pushing or you know,

1058
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 2: begging some would say, for an opportunity or a shot

1059
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 2: at that show was when I believe Jesse wasn't going

1060
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 2: to be involved because a football season. You know, he

1061
00:53:55,800 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 2: obviously has his analyst job, and I thought there was

1062
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 2: no way he could pull off both strike.

1063
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 3: We thought that maybe he was affected by it.

1064
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 2: And so I just thought, hey, like, if they're looking,

1065
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 2: I would want to make sure that my name was

1066
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 2: in the pot. But if there weren't looking and it

1067
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 2: was Jesse the whole time, then it makes sense for

1068
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 2: how things progress and why I never heard a word

1069
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 2: or never got an interview or any of.

1070
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 4: That, and so I'm happy that it's Jesse.

1071
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 2: There was no like, hey I want to take Jesse's

1072
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: job in this, and hey I think I could do

1073
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 2: a better job than Jesse. That was never the thought.

1074
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 2: It was I don't think Jesse's going to be involved

1075
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: in the show. I don't know how he does it.

1076
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: I still don't know how he's going to do it

1077
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 2: with football season coming up around the corner in less

1078
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: than a month, Like, how is this guy going to

1079
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 2: do that?

1080
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 3: Well, there's also The Bachelor, you know, because especially from

1081
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 3: The Bachelor late September early octobery.

1082
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 2: He's like the new Ryan Seacrest, Like he's up across

1083
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 2: the country somehow. He shows up in LA for a show,

1084
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Speaker 2: then he's in New York the next like in like

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Speaker 2: five more hours, and he's hosting American Idol.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know how these guys do it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, like what their life looks like, or

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Speaker 2: how they get sleep, or how they get rest, or

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Speaker 2: how they have any fun in life.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. But it's impressive and it's at some

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Speaker 4: level admirable.

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Speaker 2: I would have loved for Jesse to say, hey, you

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Speaker 2: know what, I really like that being guy I don't

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Speaker 2: want this job, Let's give it to him. But he didn't,

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Speaker 2: and so it does seem like from recent social media

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Speaker 2: posts he is the host of the Golden Bachelor.

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Speaker 3: I wish they would have just told you that.

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Speaker 4: I agree.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why they'd like, why not just be

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Speaker 3: open and clear. But I also think that because there

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Speaker 3: was secrecy and because there was some weird assumption that

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Speaker 3: he wouldn't be, that there was actually some debate as

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Speaker 3: to whether he was going to be or not.

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Speaker 2: I agree, So I just want to come out publicly

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Speaker 2: in Sam, I'm this is a great scenario. It is

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Speaker 2: his job. He is the host of this franchise. Now,

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Speaker 2: he should be the host of this franchise in any

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Speaker 2: of their spin off shows that he can and wants

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Speaker 2: to do. But if this Golden Bachelor thing is ever

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Speaker 2: a thing he doesn't want to do, just know that

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Speaker 2: I'm still here, Ashley. That's all the headlines we have

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Speaker 2: for people today. We'll be back next week breaking down

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Speaker 2: the mentel all. Hopefully maybe next week we can try

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Speaker 2: to get Amanda on the podcast. If not very.

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Speaker 3: Soon, great Amanda, And because it's mental all producers, I

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Speaker 3: would love to have one of the guys that were

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Speaker 3: there just to make it a little bit jazzier, because

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Speaker 3: we all know that all of us aren't super thrilled

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Speaker 3: with mentel Al, But if we can get a little

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Speaker 3: inside scoop, that'd be fun.

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Speaker 4: That would be fun. But until next week, I have

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Speaker 4: been Ben, I've been Ashley Sea.

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