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Speaker 2: Yeah, this reminds me of what I started twenty three with,

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Speaker 3: But I totally hear you with this word elevate.

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: it brings about this thought that it's a balancing act.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I take it as am I learning

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Speaker 2: There are so many people listening to this that can

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Speaker 4: On your own.

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Speaker 2: It's so true. Okay, proudest moment of the year, less

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Speaker 1: befriend uncertainty and befriend change because things also can't get

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Speaker 1: better without change, and so I had to lean into

445
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 1: things have to change in order to be better.

446
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Speaker 4: So what is better?

447
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 3: Yeah? What is better?

448
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 2: And for this to be your proudest moment of the year,

449
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 2: it obviously held a lot of weight for you. You're

450
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Speaker 2: still in the midst of this very large change. But

451
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Speaker 2: what would you say you've learned now on the other side,

452
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Speaker 2: because this was kind of a change that happened for

453
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Speaker 2: you in I would say at least two phases.

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Speaker 3: Right.

455
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Speaker 2: There was the phase where you said to yourself, Okay,

456
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Speaker 2: I'm going to travel a little bit and that travels

457
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Speaker 2: to it in New York and see how I feel about it.

458
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 2: And now there's this second phase, which is all right,

459
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Speaker 2: I'm about to put roots down in New York for

460
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Speaker 2: a minute. You have your own lease, you have your

461
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Speaker 2: own apartment now, So what would you say has been

462
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Speaker 2: one of the biggest lessons so far in this proudest

463
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Speaker 2: moment of your twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: What's interesting is I have always liked New York. I've

465
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Speaker 1: been here before before I decided to move here. But

466
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Speaker 1: I had this idea that, oh, living in New York

467
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Speaker 1: is only something you do in your twenties. And so

468
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Speaker 1: because I didn't do it in my twenties, I can't

469
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Speaker 1: do it.

470
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Speaker 4: So stupid, so stupid.

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Speaker 1: And then I got here and I was like, wait,

472
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Speaker 1: I really like it. I'm making friends, I'm building community.

473
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Speaker 1: There's millions of people here who are much older than

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Speaker 1: their twenties, across all spans of life. So why do

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Speaker 1: I have this idea that only certain places or certain

476
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Speaker 1: things are for certain points in my life. I can

477
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Speaker 1: kind of do whatever I want within reason, whenever I want,

478
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Speaker 1: within reason, within reason, you know, nothing too crazy, But

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Speaker 1: why would I limit myself to a decade that is

480
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Speaker 1: long gone? And I have so many lord willing decades

481
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Speaker 1: ahead of me to do whatever I want?

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Speaker 3: Right yeah.

483
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Speaker 2: So then getting here and having this understanding and that

484
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 2: it enables you then to see things through a different lens. Yeah,

485
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Speaker 2: you were like judging yourself for absolutely no reason. Absolutely yeah,

486
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 2: for something I can't change you.

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Speaker 3: How often do we do that? Though? With everything right?

488
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Speaker 2: Yes, there are so many things that are happening in

489
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Speaker 2: our lives that we're shooting ourselves about or have this

490
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 2: bias and maybe it comes from you, maybe it comes

491
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 2: from your friends, maybe it is influenced by your family.

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Speaker 2: But whatever that bias is, sometimes you have to take

493
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Speaker 2: a step back and ask yourself, is what I'm dealing

494
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Speaker 2: with here based on facts? Or is it based on

495
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 2: as should is it based on a thought? Is it

496
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Speaker 2: based on a feeling? And to be able to decipher

497
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Speaker 2: between the two again, it requires that brutal honesty, which

498
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Speaker 2: sometimes isn't exactly an easy thing to come by.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So proudest moment of the year, making the move

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Speaker 2: most difficult moment of the year.

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Speaker 4: Most difficult moment of the year. Similarly making the move.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, talk to me about the flip side. Yeah, I mean,

504
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Speaker 1: you know, I had this moment. I had gone back

505
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Speaker 1: to La not too long ago to get my stuff

506
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Speaker 1: out of storage and prepare to move. And I did

507
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Speaker 1: have this moment where I got really emotional and I thought,

508
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: what have I done? However, I also felt the same

509
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Speaker 1: way in twenty nineteen when I was driving from Seattle

510
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Speaker 1: to LA to move there. I got to the Oregon

511
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Speaker 1: California border, and I thought, what have I done? And

512
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Speaker 1: that was a really beautiful experience, even though you know

513
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Speaker 1: I'm not there currently, that was a really beautiful experience,

514
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: and I grew a lot. So I realized, sometimes we

515
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: have these knee jerk reactions again to that change and

516
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: to the uncertainty, and even though we face discomfort, it

517
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean we shouldn't do it. Sometimes you just have

518
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Speaker 1: to let the feelings pass. But it was really hard

519
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Speaker 1: to let go of the life that I had before,

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Speaker 1: even though I knew it didn't serve me. There was

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Speaker 1: once a time where that was what I really wanted.

522
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: I so badly wanted to live in LA and like

523
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Speaker 1: the neighborhood that I lived in was like my dream

524
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: perfect neighborhood where I had my perfect little gym and

525
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: my perfect Whole foods and my perfect daily walking route,

526
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Speaker 1: and there was I just really grieved the older version

527
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Speaker 1: of me that once really wanted that.

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Speaker 4: It was it was hard but necessary.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, necessary?

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Speaker 2: That words so beautiful there for you as this was

531
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Speaker 2: such a difficult transition. What would you say helped you

532
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Speaker 2: get through that transition the most?

533
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Speaker 1: I think it's you know, and I've I've felt similarly

534
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: actually about breakups that I've gone through, where it's like,

535
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: I know what this staying in this, whether it's a city,

536
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: whether it's a relationship, whether it's a job or whatever,

537
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 1: I know what this is going to get me, and

538
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 1: clearly I don't want this because if I wanted it,

539
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be feeling this way. So staying in it

540
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Speaker 1: is just making like a personal commitment to myself that

541
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Speaker 1: I'm going to not have what I ultimately want now

542
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: or what is ultimately for my greatest good. And learning

543
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Speaker 1: also how to move through those feelings of like it's

544
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Speaker 1: okay if I wanted this for a time, and now

545
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: it's okay to want something else has been like my

546
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 1: north star.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, you're speaking to the what's the quote you're

548
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 2: preaching to the choir?

549
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 3: Wow, speaking to I don't even know who I like,

550
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Speaker 3: Because these are things.

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Speaker 4: We all experience.

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00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: We all had our own versions of this in one

553
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: way or another.

554
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 3: It's so true.

555
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: Okay, so we know your proudest moment, we know your

556
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Speaker 2: most difficult moment. Now, this is my favorite question I've

557
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 2: been asking in this series Times person of the Year,

558
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift, Who's Less's person of the year.

559
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Speaker 1: I mean, definitely Beyonce, oh the counter, definitely Beyonce.

560
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 3: I mean.

561
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: The thing about why I love Beyonce personally is like

562
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Speaker 1: I watch her, whether I go to a concert or

563
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 1: I listen to her music or whatever. I watch the

564
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: concert film and she like makes me want to be

565
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: the best version of myself. I see how hard she

566
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: works and how many things that she does to put

567
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: together a great show and to be excellent at what

568
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 1: she does, and I'm like, I want to be my

569
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: version of that, and inspires me to be my version

570
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: of that.

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Speaker 4: So like, Beyonce is definitely my person of the Year.

572
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 2: Talk to me about something you want to do more

573
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Speaker 2: of in twenty twenty four.

574
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Speaker 4: Something I want to do more of.

575
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: I want to lean more into creativity and just feel

576
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: fully unleashed in creativity. Not even necessarily related to my

577
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: content or podcast in that way, but like I would

578
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: really love to do creative writing, love to write. I

579
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: feel like I've written for so many years for work

580
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: that it kind of ruined it, and I want to

581
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: like reclaim my love of writing.

582
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Speaker 4: So I'd love to get.

583
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Speaker 1: Into creative writing eventually. Getting into writing fiction is something

584
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: that I would just love to do, as well as

585
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: getting more into music, Like I love music and I haven't,

586
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 1: you know, created music, made my own mixes, done my

587
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: own things in that nature in a really long time,

588
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: and so I would really love to get back to

589
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: those like creative fun hobbies.

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Speaker 3: Why are you not setting goals for twenty twenty four.

591
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: Because I'm really focused on, instead of setting goals that

592
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: I want to reach, determining what characteristics that I want

593
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: to embody. And I feel like if I really embody

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00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: who it is I want to be, who it is

595
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: I meant to be, who my higher self is. Reaching

596
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: the goals is a given, but it's actually a lot

597
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: harder to make those changes and to embody new characteristics

598
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: and create new habits and wire new neural pathways. That's

599
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: a lot harder than achieving goals or kind of checking boxes,

600
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: which is what sometimes achieving goals has been for me.

601
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: So I kind of want to do it almost like

602
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: the harder way, but I realize that when I am

603
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: that version of myself, like achieving the goals is a

604
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: given's that's like it's normal, it's normal thing, its normal day.

605
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: Give me an example of a characteristic that you want

606
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: to work to embody in twenty twenty four. Yeah, so

607
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: creating more than I consume is a big one, and

608
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: not taking inspiration from other areas, whether that is how

609
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: I write, whether that's how I create, whether that's how

610
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: I dress, and how I I mean so many days

611
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: where I like need to get dressed for the day

612
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: and I'm like, let me hop on Pinterest to see

613
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: if I can recreate an outfit. Why don't I just

614
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: create something that is purely from my you know what

615
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: I mean, like presenting as my highest self, who already

616
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: is that person who's put together, who creates things, who

617
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: sets the trends instead of follows them.

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00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 2: Why am I not creating as this put together person? Yeah,

619
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: this is the whole premise of energy finds like energy, right,

620
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 2: Energy attracts like energy.

621
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 3: So if you believe that in your.

622
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 2: Gut you are this put together person, then you will

623
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: also attract other put together people, right, And I'm not

624
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 2: just talking about like physical attraction and men, although we

625
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: are working on attracting puts together two twenty four, Absolutely

626
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: we both are, but I'm also talking about like career

627
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: opportunities and friendships and like other relationships and just like energy.

628
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 3: In your life.

629
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Speaker 2: Like when you show up somewhere and you bring, for

630
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: another example, like confidence with you, then you are going

631
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: to attract other confident people and those are the people

632
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: that are going to stay in your circle. But that's

633
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: only if you are truly embodying a part of yourself.

634
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,239
Speaker 2: And sometimes, as scary as it is, you do have

635
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: to put on like that makeup first, Right, you have

636
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: to show up and be like today, I'm going to

637
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: be my confident Emily, Like this is what I'm going

638
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: to do today. And you might not always feel like

639
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: all shiny and whatever, but that doesn't mean that you

640
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: can't step out in a certain way and put that

641
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: forward knowing that that is exactly what you want to

642
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: receive exactly.

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00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, hit the nail on the head, Hit the nail

644
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 4: on the head.

645
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 3: Wow, twenty twenty four is going to be a big one.

646
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 3: It is.

647
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm excited normally I feel a little bit indifferent towards

648
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: the new year. I'm kind of like, yeah, new year,

649
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: kind of whatever, I think, just because I know, intrinsically

650
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: usually the year ahead is going to be the same.

651
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: But knowing this year is going to be drastically different

652
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: than any I've had before, it is just it's exciting,

653
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: and so it's it's giving me kind of a renewed

654
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: excitement for the new year that I've never had.

655
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: Aside from being honest with yourself about the state of

656
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: less's life, like what's going on where you're at, career, personal,

657
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 2: et cetera. What else would you say helps you be

658
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 2: okay in the midst of all this uncertainty? Like is

659
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: it routine based? Are the routines that you follow that

660
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 2: help give you solace? Is it relationships and support from

661
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,719
Speaker 2: friends or family? Like, what would you say are kind

662
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 2: of the cornerstones that help you set up for success

663
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: knowing that this year is going to be so much

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Speaker 2: different than the previous one?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean absolute like stillness and mindfulness and getting still.

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Speaker 1: I know we both love and work with open and

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Speaker 1: so even if that's something as simple as like the

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Speaker 1: daily meditation, meditation or breathwork, just to like ground and

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Speaker 1: have a minute of peace if I know the rest

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Speaker 1: of the day is going to be chaos. Those simple

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Speaker 1: wellness practices of like movement, drinking water, eating well, silence

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Speaker 1: for a few minutes a day, those are the things

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Speaker 1: that truly anchor no matter how much chaos I have

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Speaker 1: going on.

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Speaker 2: Actually great and this I didn't even pay less to

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Speaker 2: mention this on my podcast, but it really helps me

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Speaker 2: out here to drive you all. I to like the

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Speaker 2: mindfulness breathwork thing over the last year, talk about impressions

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Speaker 2: or like stories that we were telling ourselves for a

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Speaker 2: long time, I just thought that I would never be

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Speaker 2: a breathwork person. Like I had this idea in my

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Speaker 2: head of how people looked when they do breathwork, and

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Speaker 2: I thought it was absolutely ridiculous. And then when I

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Speaker 2: sat down to do it, I was like, oh, I

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Speaker 2: actually like this a lot better than meditation. I like

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Speaker 2: having a task to do that calms me down for

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Speaker 2: two five ten minutes. So yeah, I'm with you. The

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Speaker 2: mindfulness is a huge thing for me. It's definitely a

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Speaker 2: cornerstone that and just routine. I think in general, setting

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Speaker 2: yourself up in the morning is like what truly enables

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Speaker 2: me and empowers me to handle everything else that happens

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Speaker 2: throughout the day.

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Speaker 1: One percent and having more time and spaciousness in my

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Speaker 1: mornings is feeling so good.

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Speaker 4: And that was a slower morning routine.

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Speaker 3: We love it, and we love it. We love it well.

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy that we were able to sit down

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Speaker 2: and start the year off together. So many fun things

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Speaker 2: to come for us both anything else you want to

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Speaker 2: leave the hurdlers with words of wisdom going into twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four. Oh my gosh, I mean big moment. First

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Speaker 2: of all, thank you for having me. This was such

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Speaker 2: a fun podcast chat. I think it's okay if everything

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Speaker 2: is not ideal. It's okay if you have one of

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Speaker 2: those years. On my podcast, I called it living versus achieving.

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Speaker 2: That's what twenty twenty three was for me. I was

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Speaker 2: living more than I was achieving, and that is okay.

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Speaker 2: And that you have the power to turn things around. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we all have the power to turn things around.

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Speaker 3: At any moment too.

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Speaker 2: I think that that's like the biggest thing and the

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Speaker 2: last thing we'll end on here is just this sentiment

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Speaker 2: that there is so much power in the restart at

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Speaker 2: the top of the year. I love a January first.

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Speaker 2: Ask anyone that knows me my life a Monday. Oh

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Speaker 2: my god, it's so satisfying. I like so amped on this.

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Speaker 2: I love a January first. But with that said, if

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Speaker 2: something doesn't go right on January first, and you want

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Speaker 2: to start on January second, or if you want to

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Speaker 2: start on February second, or you want to start at

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Speaker 2: twelve pm on March fourteenth, do whatever you need to do,

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Speaker 2: because literally, any single moment is your opportunity to start fresh.

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Speaker 2: And waiting for some arbitrary moment that someone else tells

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Speaker 2: you is the right time to do something isn't going

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Speaker 2: to be the thing that anchors you into your new routines.

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Speaker 3: So do what you gotta do.

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Speaker 2: But hopefully we gave you a little bit of good

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Speaker 2: advice to get to where you want to go. Less

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Speaker 2: for those that don't follow along with you, just yet

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Speaker 2: give us the details. How can they do that?

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, you can find me on the social media's

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Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram and TikTok at Balanced Less and then

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Speaker 1: my podcast Balance Black Girl has new episodes come out

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Speaker 1: every Tuesday, so you can find it wherever you listen

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Speaker 1: to podcasts. If you're into video, we now have video

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Speaker 1: episodes on YouTube, so yeah, come find me.

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Speaker 2: She's sending the bar so high for me for twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four YouTube and Hurdles Future.

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Speaker 4: Yes it's coming. Yeah girl, you got it, you got it.

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Speaker 2: I'm over at Emilyabodi and at Hurdle Podcast Another Hurdle Codgerd.

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Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time