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Speaker 1: Congratulations, you've been accepted into the inaugural class of therapy

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Speaker 2: Hi. I'm Sorria Taylor and I'm the TBG podcast production intern.

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Speaker 2: We'll return to Jana right after the break.

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Speaker 1: One of the most alluring parts of the college experience

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Speaker 1: is Greek life, but many people don't know the ins

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Speaker 1: and outs of Swarty life. For those of you who

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Speaker 1: don't know, I'm a proud member of Delta Sigma Beta

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Speaker 1: Sobarty Incorporated. So I decided to gather my fellow D

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Speaker 1: nine sisters for a conversation about Soworty life and the

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Speaker 1: impact of the Divine Nine at large. Joining me for

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Speaker 1: this round table are four impactful college aged women who

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Speaker 1: represent each of the D nine sororities. Their names are

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Speaker 1: Ryan Phillips, Valisia Rhodes, Trinity Perkins, and Toomey Udeju. They

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Speaker 1: are members of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sort Incorporated, Sigma Gamma

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Speaker 1: Rose Swordy Incorporated, Delta Sigma Theta Sword Incorporated and Zeta

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Speaker 1: Phi Beta Sort Incorporated, respectively. In our conversation today, we

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Speaker 1: dispel some common misconceptions about Sowarty life, bond over the

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Speaker 1: joys of sisterhood, and discuss how we balance our mental

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Speaker 1: wellness with our sorority responsibilities. Here's our conversation. Hi everyone,

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Speaker 1: the conversation today is super exciting. Many of our listeners

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Speaker 1: are likely familiar with the impactful presence of black Greek

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Speaker 1: letter organizations on college campuses and in communities national and internationally.

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Speaker 1: Today we have a special treat as each of our

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Speaker 1: for each of you to take a moment to introduce

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Speaker 1: yourselves by sharing the organization you're a part of, when

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Speaker 3: Hello everyone, my name is Tunia Dayju.

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Speaker 4: I am part of Savery Authority Incorporated, and I'm here

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Speaker 3: You're at the Universe Houston. I'm a senior at the moment.

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Speaker 5: Hi everyone, my name is Felicia Rhoades and I am

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Speaker 5: a recent daily University graduate. I am a fall twenty

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Speaker 6: Hi everyone, I'm Ryan Phillips. I am a current senior

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Speaker 6: Alpha Kapa Alpha Athority Incorporated at Spelman College.

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Speaker 7: Hello everyone, my name is Trinity Perds. I am a

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Speaker 7: member of the devastating Delta Sigma Theta Sorority Incorporated. I

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Speaker 1: Thank you for those lovely introductions. I am also a

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Speaker 1: member of Delta Sigma Theta sowor It Incorporated, and I

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Hei So, Hi sore.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 1: To kick us off, I'm curious what motivated you to

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Speaker 1: it was something you wanted. I'll start with Ryan.

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Speaker 6: So growing up, I'm actually a third generation legacy. My

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Speaker 6: grandmother is a member, my mom is a member, and

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Speaker 6: I became a member of the Spring of twenty two.

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Speaker 6: I don't like doing things just because it's a family tradition.

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Speaker 6: I actually like to stray away from those things. So

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Speaker 6: And it really was just the sense of poise and

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Speaker 5: For me, I am a first generation college student and soroar,

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Speaker 7: Delta Sigma Theta was the sorority.

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Speaker 1: For me and to me.

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Speaker 4: So for me, none of my family were Greek. The

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Speaker 4: always doing service, always doing community service, especially mental health,

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Speaker 4: just little things I noticed as I went researching in Zeta.

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Speaker 3: I feel very homely here.

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Speaker 1: Thank y'all for sharing those sweet sentiments. Tell me what

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Speaker 4: I think for me, I love how they're all over

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Speaker 4: you know, Zeta Phi Beta were constitutionally bound to another

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Speaker 4: Even like in the grocery store, I see a soul

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Speaker 4: So I think that's like my favorite part is just

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Speaker 7: Not to sound cheesy or cliche, but what I found

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Speaker 7: to know about Delta Sigma Theta is that we truly

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Speaker 7: impact the world. We shift the culture, and we are

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Speaker 7: the starter of conversations. I remember when I first crossed,

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Speaker 7: now sores, but I actually see someone who is impacting

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Speaker 5: Most about Sigma Gammarroe Swart Incorporated, honestly is my sore ers.

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Speaker 5: And I say that because prior to coming to college,

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Speaker 5: So I love just meeting them, but also knowing like

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Speaker 6: I love it so for me, it really is like

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Speaker 6: like we help each other for we know there's no other.

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Speaker 6: And I truly have felt that during my time as

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Speaker 3: It just means so much to me.

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Speaker 1: I completely agree with all of your statements. I find

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Speaker 1: to summarize it for myself. But Ryan, you touched on

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Speaker 1: of you who have D nine parents and family members

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Speaker 1: and how do they influence your decision to join your organization.

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Speaker 6: So my mom did not influence me at all. Like

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Speaker 7: And do it.

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Speaker 6: So I think that's something that like honestly pushed me

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Speaker 5: For me, I understand sometimes we talk about the commitment

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Speaker 5: So that's something I would say, remember that when you're

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Speaker 3: On behalf of the community preach.

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Speaker 7: For sure, I'm going to piggyback on everyone because they

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Speaker 7: be community service work. Of course, your grades, because you

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Speaker 7: we graduately over here, your great service work, but also

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Speaker 1: So to recap there's no one size fits all for

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Speaker 5: Honestly, initially, like I said earlier, I joined my organization

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Speaker 7: My initial perception, honestly, I saw Delta through the lens

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Speaker 4: Did not expect to have to like find that new

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Speaker 1: And off of that point to me, like shout out

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Speaker 1: What are some misconceptions about joining authority that you want

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Speaker 4: There's so many, but many I'm gonna say, Like, I

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Speaker 4: if that makes sense. I understand like this is a

439
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 4: very privileged position to be in. Y'all pay dues. That's expensive.

440
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 4: It's financially privileging, it's socially privileging. You know, you don't

441
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Speaker 4: have to have the time, the money, and you get

442
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Speaker 4: the connections and stuff like that. But I feel like

443
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 4: people think that we're paying for friends and we're paying

444
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Speaker 4: to be a part of this elite group. And I

445
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Speaker 4: say elite with quotation marks because it's not that. And

446
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 4: I feel like people don't take the time to actually

447
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Speaker 4: see past the Greek stereotypes that like, oh, all you

448
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 4: guys do is like party, go out and be social,

449
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 4: the drinking stereotypes. I hate those because that kind of

450
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 4: negates all the service work that I know all of

451
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Speaker 4: our org do, Like we all do a lot of service,

452
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Speaker 4: and for that stereotype for us to be like these uptight,

453
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Speaker 4: like snobby people, like this elite people, it kind of

454
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Speaker 4: negates all that service and all that work that we

455
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Speaker 4: ourselves know that we're not like those people that people

456
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Speaker 4: stereotype us as, and it makes it harder. Also, I

457
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Speaker 4: feel like to be a person in a Greek or

458
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Speaker 4: because once you say like, oh, I'm part of this org.

459
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Speaker 4: Everyone in their mama has a whole with the stereotypes

460
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Speaker 4: about like, oh, you're part of that org, I know

461
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Speaker 4: how you act, or you're part of that org.

462
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Speaker 3: Oh I know how you speak.

463
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Speaker 4: It's like, no, you don't because without the letters, with

464
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Speaker 4: the letters, I'm still the same person.

465
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Speaker 3: I just so happen to wear.

466
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Speaker 5: These letters in these colors I agree with. To me,

467
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Speaker 5: I was going to go into the stereotypes as well.

468
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Speaker 5: I believe a lot of the misconceptions that I dislike

469
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 5: that I wish we could just completely eliminate are the

470
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Speaker 5: ones that revolve around how people perceive you based off

471
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Speaker 5: which organization you're in. So if you say you're a

472
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Speaker 5: Sigma woman, a Delta woman, a Zta woman, or an

473
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 5: Alpha woman, people instantly have this idea of how you think,

474
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Speaker 5: how you move, how you cook, even how you navigate

475
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 5: life and your relationships. But the reality of it is,

476
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Speaker 5: you cannot generalize us based off our organizations.

477
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Speaker 3: If anything, that.

478
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Speaker 5: Should inspire you to get to know us about our

479
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Speaker 5: values and our morals better. Other people's perceptions of your

480
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Speaker 5: organizations are not a reflection of you as a whole.

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Speaker 3: You are a major part of how.

482
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Speaker 5: Your organization can function and move, so your unique contribution

483
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Speaker 5: matters to the organization. So just because I'm a Sigma

484
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Speaker 5: woman and you may not think I look like a

485
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Speaker 5: Sigma woman does not mean I'm not valuable and does

486
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Speaker 5: not mean my sorority isn't beyond your steer types and

487
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Speaker 5: your negative perception snaps all around.

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Speaker 1: Thank y'all for sharing those points. So moving on, Felicia,

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Speaker 1: I know you became a member of Sigma Gamma ro

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Speaker 1: Story incorporate during COVID nineteen and join when there is

491
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Speaker 1: zero members on your campus. Can you talk a little

492
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Speaker 1: bit about that experience?

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Speaker 5: Honestly, I recently just had to talk about this because

494
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Speaker 5: someone asked me how did I know if I was resilient?

495
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Speaker 5: And I always think back to how I was able

496
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Speaker 5: to navigate the intake process in an accelerated process, so

497
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Speaker 5: meaning that it was completely shorter and faster than the

498
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Speaker 5: average process while also during quarantine or post quarantine per se.

499
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Speaker 5: It's honestly one of my greatest accomplishments, mainly because through

500
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 5: everything I went through with my mental health during COVID,

501
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 5: I did not think I would be strong enough to

502
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Speaker 5: embark on the journey, let alone to come out on

503
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Speaker 5: the other side, and so to hit the stage on

504
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Speaker 5: probate day or on show day, and then to be

505
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 5: able to be selected as president a week later, it

506
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 5: was a major torch to bear. But now that I

507
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 5: look back and I see my chapter and how much

508
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 5: they've grown, and I see them post events and all

509
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 5: these big things, it is a reflection.

510
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Speaker 7: That I'm capable.

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Speaker 3: So I will not tell you it was easy.

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Speaker 5: It is top three hardest things I've ever done in

513
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Speaker 5: my twenty two years of living. But it's one of

514
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Speaker 5: my most prideful accomplishments because I've built the foundation for

515
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 5: the Omicron chapter to grow, and I'll always be grateful

516
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Speaker 5: I could do that for my chapter in my school.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. Thank you for walking us through that. To me,

518
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Speaker 1: you attended the University of Houston, which is a PWY.

519
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Speaker 1: How does your chapter impact this space as a Black

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Speaker 1: Greek letter organization.

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Speaker 3: I would say it's a lot of putting yourself.

522
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Speaker 4: Out there because especially like our PWY, it's in like

523
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Speaker 4: the heart of downtown Houston, so it's near Third Ward

524
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Speaker 4: and anyone from Texas knows like is a black majority.

525
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Speaker 3: Space, but UH is really diverse.

526
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Speaker 4: And when it comes to that, you do have to

527
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 4: struggle with sharing the limelight and sharing it with the

528
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 4: other Paneltic and IFC and MGC councils. And I feel like,

529
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Speaker 4: as like a Black Greek Letter org on a PWY,

530
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 4: it's a lot of putting ourselves out there and having

531
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Speaker 4: to raise our own standard and be above the standard,

532
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Speaker 4: especially because we have small chapters here like PWI Multicultural

533
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 4: or even like Black Greekletter or chapters. They're small because

534
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 4: the school is not catered to that culture. And because

535
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 4: it's not catered to that culture, we have to be

536
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 4: the culture and bring the culture to the campus and

537
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 4: make sure that it's instilled how it should be instilled,

538
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Speaker 4: making sure that people understand and respect like our orgs

539
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 4: and don't see us as some afterthought, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: And I feel like with pwy's is just very.

541
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Speaker 4: Much of a struggle bus to have people see us

542
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Speaker 4: even as like our MPAC, like MYNPAC. I can applaud

543
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 4: them so much because even this past school year we've

544
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 4: grown so much in outreach and getting people to notice it,

545
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Speaker 4: like hey, we're here, because.

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Speaker 3: I get told a lot of the times like oh

547
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Speaker 3: you're a Zeta. Yeah, I'm a zeta.

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Speaker 4: They're like, I didn't know there was even black grief

549
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 4: oors on this campus. And that's crazy because I know

550
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 4: we all wear our letters on this campus of the time.

551
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Speaker 4: I know our yard is big. But because our school

552
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 4: doesn't push us out the way and HPCU would push

553
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 4: out a black Greek letter orgs, we have to try

554
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 4: ten times. It's hard to be seen and it can

555
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 4: be like a bit discouraging, but at the same time

556
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 4: it helps to find people that want to have that

557
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Speaker 4: community and want to really be connected with, like the

558
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 4: black culture at UH, and it's very beautiful when you

559
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Speaker 4: see it, like hump Nights. You just see like all

560
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 4: the black curacius come out and support because they know

561
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 4: the opportunities here aren't the same as for their counterpart

562
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Speaker 4: who isn't black.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing that, Ryan, what has been the

564
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Speaker 1: most rewarding aspect of your experience in chapter and how

565
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Speaker 1: has it contributed to your personal growth and sense of community.

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Speaker 6: I would say that the vine never stops growing. It's

567
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 6: been so important to like my matriculation through school and

568
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Speaker 6: also just my womanhood, just being able to have so

569
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Speaker 6: many sisters to lean on across the spectrum in terms

570
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Speaker 6: of like my family members who are sores, but also

571
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Speaker 6: just random people I meet on the daily who are

572
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Speaker 6: sores and I'm like, Hi, how are you like introducing

573
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Speaker 6: myself and also just finding out more about them. I

574
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 6: think it's just a really beautiful experience to move through

575
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Speaker 6: the world knowing that I represent this beautiful organization that

576
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Speaker 6: has so many members who are all committed to these

577
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 6: values into growing the sisterhood. And also just I crossed

578
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,239
Speaker 6: Spring twenty two and we just had another line. And

579
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Speaker 6: so just seeing how I was able to build relationships

580
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 6: with like my nails and just continue developing relationships through

581
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Speaker 6: my entire like in my future life as like a

582
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Speaker 6: member for life. I think that's just going to be

583
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Speaker 6: so beautiful. It's one of my favorite parts.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: And Trinity for a little moment of reflection, how do

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Speaker 1: you navigate some of the age slash generational differences with

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Speaker 1: your order soares whom you lead alongside?

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Speaker 7: So I would like to preface this whole answer by saying,

589
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 7: I grew up with nothing but Theason people. So I

590
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 7: maybe twenty two may look like a kid, but my

591
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,479
Speaker 7: soul I am a good sixty five years old. Okay,

592
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 7: I would just like to put that out there. I

593
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 7: have an easier time navigating that area compared to some

594
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Speaker 7: of my other sores. But I think communication is key

595
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 7: and understanding. I think one of the biggest life lessons

596
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 7: that I've always had is being teachable. They've been with

597
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 7: Delta way longer than me, so they have insight and

598
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 7: knowledge that I am growing into. So I always have

599
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 7: a listening gear on. Now when some of those opinions

600
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 7: or ways of conducting business may be just each bit dated,

601
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 7: that's when I come in and say, hey, sore, well

602
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 7: at the University of North Texas or even here in Providence,

603
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 7: I've learned these new things that can make life easier

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Speaker 7: for us. Let me just walk you through it so

605
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 7: you can see it and let me know your opinions

606
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 7: and your insight. And I always try to find a

607
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 7: middle ground. But I'm normally able to find a middle

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00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 7: ground just because my soul I'm very old, so I

609
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 7: understand where they're coming from. And also I get respect

610
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 7: because I actually have a listening ear, if that makes sense.

611
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Speaker 7: I know that's one of the things that they talk

612
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 7: about a lot with younger sores is Hey, they don't

613
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 7: want to listen. They just think they know it all.

614
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 7: But when you sit and listen to them and say, hey,

615
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 7: like I hear you, I understand you. But this way

616
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 7: may be a little bit easier. We're normally able to

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Speaker 7: come to a middle ground.

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Speaker 1: I love the strategies of communication there. It's amazing. I

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00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: definitely relate with the older soul and that's an art

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Speaker 1: within itself of having that.

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Speaker 2: Hi, I'm sorry, Taylor, and I'm the TPG podcast production intern.

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Speaker 2: We'll return to Jana right after the break.

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Speaker 1: To me. Can you recall when you how to navigate

624
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Speaker 1: conflict with the Sore War? How did you go about

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Speaker 1: it and what did you learn?

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Speaker 4: I feel like when it comes like conflict with the

627
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 4: Soro War, it's inevitable. It's a lot of personalities in

628
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 4: one or and at the end of the day, we're

629
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 4: all human. You're not gonna get along with everyone, and

630
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 4: even if you do, a sisterhood is just like any

631
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 4: other relationship in your life.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna have your downs.

633
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Speaker 4: You're gonna have the moments where your guys are butting heads.

634
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 4: You're gonna have the moments where you guys aren't getting

635
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 4: along or where you might not see eye to eye

636
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Speaker 4: and especially because like we talk about this in the

637
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 4: business aspect, maybe you guys just aren't good at working

638
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 4: in a business setting. You're great at the sisterhood, but

639
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 4: the business setting you're not. And I can recall a time,

640
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Speaker 4: like I know there's spend times where like I would

641
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 4: butt heads of my own mind sisters.

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Speaker 3: But something that.

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Speaker 4: Has helped me because especially I don't have sisters, I

644
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 4: don't have a brother, So growing up I had a

645
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 4: different tactic of handling arguments and it was very much

646
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Speaker 4: the brotherly way of I'll hit you because that's the

647
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Speaker 4: only way I know because growing up the brother that's

648
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Speaker 4: a different type of dynamic than handling conflict with a

649
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 4: soul with a sister. And something I learned is it's

650
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Speaker 4: kind of like threefold is understanding. You need to listen

651
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Speaker 4: and understand from their point of view and also have

652
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 4: like empathy and know that they're so human and you're

653
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 4: so human, and not to put people on this like

654
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 4: pedestal of we're in this or we should be better

655
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Speaker 4: than that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but like we all have our flaws, we all

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Speaker 3: have our.

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Speaker 4: Weaknesses, the things that we still need to work on.

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Speaker 4: And sometimes you're gonna but head. Sometimes you're going to

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Speaker 4: not understand someone, and sometimes that conflict may lead to

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Speaker 4: maybe you guys don't talk anymore, maybe things just don't

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Speaker 4: feel like the same.

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Speaker 3: But I think something else I learned.

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Speaker 4: Is that time heals, and you have the time, and

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Speaker 4: you have the time to cool off. Maybe you guys

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Speaker 4: just need to be in your own separate lives for

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Speaker 4: a bit. At the end of the day, you're still

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Speaker 4: sisters and you still are going to respect that person

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Speaker 4: as a solar, and just know that maybe not tomorrow,

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Speaker 4: maybe not next week, you guys will come back together

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Speaker 4: and men that sisterhood.

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Speaker 3: Conflict.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, it's inevitable, it's going to happen, But

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Speaker 4: it's how you handle it is the real kicker on

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Speaker 4: whether this can go really bad or really good. And

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Speaker 4: then also depending on if it goes really bad orally good,

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Speaker 4: how you handle it. Further than that, communication styles, talking

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Speaker 4: with them, listening to them, how you respond to what

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Speaker 4: they say, things like that. It all ties into conflict resolution,

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Speaker 4: which is something that should also be noted before going

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Speaker 4: to a D nine. It's like, you're going to have

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Speaker 4: to learn conflict resolution fast and quick because it's going

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Speaker 4: to happen and you can't avoid it.

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Speaker 3: You just have to use it as a learning curve

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Speaker 3: with it for the next time that ever happens.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely agree. I think going back to the

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Speaker 1: point of being teachable, being open to learning conflict resolution

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Speaker 1: and other communication styles is my number one tip honestly,

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Speaker 1: and being flexible with different communication styles is the best

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Speaker 1: way that I've learned how to navigate conflict in a

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Speaker 1: sority and just in my life in general. So, Ryan

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Speaker 1: and Valicia, I have a question for y'all, what does

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Speaker 1: sisterhood mean to you and how do you show up.

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Speaker 2: As a sister?

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Speaker 5: For me, sisterhood is sacred and I say this a lot,

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Speaker 5: but sisterhood is sacred because the type of bond and

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Speaker 5: love you develop with other women, especially women who look

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Speaker 5: like you and have similar values, principles and goals, is prices. So,

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Speaker 5: whether you're having a hard time in life or you're

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Speaker 5: on a mountain a conquering your greatest dream, having a

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Speaker 5: sisterhood you can lean on, but also having people who

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Speaker 5: hold you accountable is the greatest blessing because we walk

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Speaker 5: through life in these individual journeys with these unique stories

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Speaker 5: and being able to have people you can relate to

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Speaker 5: is honestly healing in so many forms and ways. So

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Speaker 5: I show up as a sister by always being there

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Speaker 5: to remind my sorrows and other women around me to believe.

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Speaker 3: Believe in yourself, believe in your.

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Speaker 5: Abilities, know that who you are is needed in the world,

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Speaker 5: is ready to receive you just as you are. And

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Speaker 5: so always reminding myself to be love, to show love,

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Speaker 5: and to be open to receiving love has strengthened every

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Speaker 5: sisterhood I have, every friendship I have. So yeah, sisterhood

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Speaker 5: is sacred and never take the women in your life

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Speaker 5: for granted, because you all will go further together if

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Speaker 5: you believe in yourselves and each other.

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Speaker 6: I could not agree more. I grew up with two sisters,

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Speaker 6: so sisterhood is truly essential to my being. I think

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Speaker 6: it really crafts the way I move through this world,

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Speaker 6: just trying to be as much of a sister to

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Speaker 6: everyone I encounter, like really truly believing that like your

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Speaker 6: interactions with women truly can change the world. That is

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Speaker 6: one of the models of Actually my school is like

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Speaker 6: a choice to change the world to like navigating sisterhoods

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Speaker 6: like a familial value, but also as a value to

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Speaker 6: have professionally can be really powerful to women in the workspace,

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Speaker 6: which I think is amazing and I think it truly

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Speaker 6: is something that can help all women across the.

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Speaker 1: World lovely and to me in Trinity. How have you

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Speaker 1: balanced your mental health with your sorority responsibilities.

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Speaker 4: Prior to Zeta, I did have my bowl to struggle

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Speaker 4: with depression anxiety, and I knew going into this that

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Speaker 4: I would need to be very disciplined and also be

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Speaker 4: very accountable of myself and also just know what I

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Speaker 4: can and can't handle and not bite off more than

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Speaker 4: we can chew, because yes, we're in these great orgs,

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Speaker 4: but at the same time, we're not superheroes. We're not

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Speaker 4: super beings that we can handle everything, we can take everything,

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Speaker 4: and like we have our burnouts, we have our moments.

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Speaker 4: And I will say, with me, like balancing my Zeta

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Speaker 4: life and then personal life and then also still trying

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Speaker 4: to make sure that my mental health is intact. I

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Speaker 4: give myself grace will I try to still working on it,

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Speaker 4: but I make a conscious effort every day to give

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Speaker 4: myself grace. If I'm feeling super burnt out, I may

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Speaker 4: just not go to that party. I may just not

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Speaker 4: go to that home night. I may just not go

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Speaker 4: to that social If I know that my sisters have

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Speaker 4: my back, I'm always open to communication. Also, I'll tell

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Speaker 4: them like, hey, guys, today's is not a day. I

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Speaker 4: just really can't handle anything more. I have this test

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Speaker 4: coming up, I haven't finished this homework, I need to

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Speaker 4: do this project, and this will be my only free night.

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Speaker 4: Can you guys go instead of me? And especially as

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Speaker 4: a president of the chapter, I definitely have to make

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Speaker 4: sure that I am giving myself space to breathe, because

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Speaker 4: you can get lost in the Greek sphere and you

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Speaker 4: can get lost in all it entails and you can

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Speaker 4: forget to have that self care night, journal, meditate, go

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Speaker 4: to therapy. These are all the things that especially our org,

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Speaker 4: the Service for Mental Health, and to make sure that

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Speaker 4: we are good as a whole person away. One of

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Speaker 4: my alumni told me is that if you're not okay,

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Speaker 4: then Zaya isn't okay.

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Speaker 3: And I feel like that applies to all of our orgs.

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Speaker 3: If you're not okay, then how.

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Speaker 4: Do you expect to continue to do the great work

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Speaker 4: that you were put in this org to do. You

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Speaker 4: got to take care of yourself first, and it's not selfish.

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Speaker 4: I think goes back to what Malicia said is like

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Speaker 4: very much selflessness in order to make sure that you're

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Speaker 4: okay so you can be there and be okay for others.

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Speaker 7: Yes, she is like on point, I'm gonna piggyback community. Community, community.

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Speaker 7: I cannot emphasize enough how much my community played a

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Speaker 7: huge role in my mental health, balancing mental health with

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Speaker 7: my sorority responsibilities. My parents, my family. Of course they

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Speaker 7: give you like advice on what they would do if

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Speaker 7: they're in your shoes, but you know, you listen to you,

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Speaker 7: You're like, but y'all don't understand.

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Speaker 3: Y'all don't get it.

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Speaker 7: So that's where my chapter advices came in, Like so

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Speaker 7: or Sneets or Green or Derek. My advisors were really

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Speaker 7: on me, like, Trinity, go to bed. Why are you

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Speaker 7: sending emails at midnight when am go to sleep? Like

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Speaker 7: it will be here the next day where you can

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Speaker 7: handle that. Did you eat? Did you like just go

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Speaker 7: outside outside of all your responsibilities? So I had like

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Speaker 7: an internal community on my campus outside of my family,

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Speaker 7: but also really like I'm faith based, so going to

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Speaker 7: church and praying and meditating and just having anywhere from

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Speaker 7: thirty minutes to an hour of my morning just sitting

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Speaker 7: there to WUSA. Because I'm one of those people where

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Speaker 7: when I start, I do not stop. I am very

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Speaker 7: self motivated, self driven. I'm going to get to my

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Speaker 7: go whether it means I'm limping across the finish line

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Speaker 7: or crawling across the finish line, I'm going to get there.

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Speaker 7: So really slowing myself down and relying on my community

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Speaker 7: to keep me on track. Of Hey, that goal will

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Speaker 7: not be feasible if you can't talk because you've talked

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Speaker 7: so much today, or if you're injured or things like that.

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Speaker 7: So my community really really helped me balance my mental

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Speaker 7: health with my sorority responsibilities.

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Speaker 1: For sure, I love and I completely agree going back

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Speaker 1: to my chapter advisors credible women and without them, I yeah,

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Speaker 1: without them, long story might not have made it to

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Speaker 1: graduation some days. So just I completely agree with the

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Speaker 1: both of you. Thank you all for sharing those sentiments.

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Speaker 1: I love this conversation. I'm curious where can we keep

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Speaker 1: up with you? What are your social media handles?

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Speaker 4: You all can find me on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, even Pinterest.

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Speaker 4: I knows people don't use Pinterest, but it's great. You

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Speaker 4: all should get on it. It's going to be at to

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Speaker 4: me a day as you say to you, am, I

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Speaker 4: underscore A d E y o j u. I make

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Speaker 4: a whole bunch of like self love, lifestyle, fashion, beauty content,

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Speaker 4: so find me there.

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Speaker 7: So I recently moved from Dallas to Providence, so I'm

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Speaker 7: still trying to get my life together. But right now,

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Speaker 7: you can follow me on Instagram at trend the Scholar,

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Speaker 7: on LinkedIn Trinity Perkins. Yeah, let's let's connect, let's network.

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Speaker 5: You can follow me on Instagram at Valisia Rose so

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Speaker 5: that's v A l E s h A r O

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Speaker 5: s E. You can also add you on LinkedIn as well,

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Speaker 5: because you know, we keep a professional at Valisia Rhodes

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Speaker 5: and I also have a podcast called The Venusian Vault,

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Speaker 5: so feel free to follow me on all platforms and

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Speaker 5: tune in about self, love, sisterhood, and spirituality period.

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Speaker 6: You can follow me on Instagram and TikTok at Ryan

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Speaker 6: R y A and N dot C brook S E

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Speaker 6: A B r O Ok.

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Speaker 1: Well again, thank you all so much for talking with me.

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Speaker 1: I loved our sisterhood comnversation today.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank Ryan to Me, Balicia, and Trinity

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Speaker 1: once again for joining us for this episode. Classes over

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Speaker 1: for now, but before we dismiss, take the following affirmations

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Speaker 1: from my conversation home with you. I am surrounded by

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Speaker 1: sisters who uplift and support me in all aspects of

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Speaker 1: my life. I am a reflection of a strong legacy

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Speaker 1: of black sisterhood within my community. I am deserving of

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Speaker 1: the sisterhood, mentorship and lifelong connections that are ahead of me.

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Speaker 1: To learn more about the work Ryan to Me, Balicia

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Speaker 1: and Trinity are doing, or to do more research on

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Speaker 1: this topic, be sure to visit Therapy for Black Girls

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Speaker 1: dot com, slash stvgu. This episode was produced by Frida Lucas,

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Speaker 1: Elise Ellis, and Zaria Taylor. Editing is by Dennison L.

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Speaker 3: Bradford.