WEBVTT - When They See Us Part 1 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:05.000 You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald XI Jr. 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:09.520 And Allen Tomanso on the Digital Soapbox Network material witness 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:13.440 on an aggregated battery. I was a hang gun and 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:18.760 they believe this might be in retaliation to her testimony. 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:24.479 Welcome to another episode of The Gangster Chronicles. This is 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:28.680 Alex Alonso from Street TV and I'm here with and 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:32.440 James and we have a great episode for you guys. 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:34.919 And we appreciate everyone that comes to our page and 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:38.880 where there's the Facebook page, Instagram page and submits information. 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:42.600 And we're gonna start this off with some fact checking 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:46.200 from last week. You couldn't remember read something or other. 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.040 The neighborhood that they were shooting the video we're talking 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:51.440 about the Snoop Dogg video or is it the dog 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:55.760 Pound video where the shooting happened was Red Hook, which 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:58.920 is a neighborhood in Brooklyn. So that was Red Hook, y'all. 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.800 And Red Hook as a well known area in Brooklyn. 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:03.920 I remember it when I was a kid living in 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:07.319 New York. And then I remember you said Biggie called it, 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:11.600 remember saying, so here's exactly what um what was said 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:15.000 on the radio. According to Snoop Duck, Snoop Dogg actually 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:17.600 did an interview in two thousand and eighteen where he 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:20.199 talked about this for the very first time, and he says, 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:22.000 we went up to the radio station to get that 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:24.680 funk Master Flex so we could let everyone in New 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:26.520 York know that we brought our low riders out. We're 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:29.360 shooting a video. All the New York rappers come mess 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:32.959 with us. And then, um, eventually he said, Flex gets 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:37.759 a call from from Biggie and says, um, Biggie goes 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:41.240 on the on the radio via phone like you guys mentioned, 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:46.200 and um, he says that m Flex gets a call 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:50.720 from Biggie that nigga. Biggie goes what's happening, Nigga Red 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:53.160 Hook is where the Dog Pound and Snoop Dogg are 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:58.120 shooting a video. Brooklyn stand up. So that was Biggie's 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:00.640 words to funk Master Flex on the radio. YO, And 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:06.120 I guess some people interpreted that as saying something and 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:08.800 then it says here, Um, we don't know. According to Snoop, 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:10.560 we don't know what that means. We think niggers are 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:12.960 coming to the show to show some love. Like Brooklyn 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:16.080 stand up, so we're still shooting the video. This is 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.560 Snoop talking the Dog Pound. We're all out in the 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:20.800 snow in front of the bricks and and we go 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:23.520 back to the trailer and then I guess the shooting 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:25.600 kind of happened. Like I always tell you all about 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:28.040 Snoop at as days, he trying to be a politician. 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.359 Go listen to Trade D. Trade D tell you more 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:32.560 in detail. And he just did an interview with Lad 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:34.800 where they heard him calling off all the different names 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:38.440 like you snot knows this nose, this versus and all 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:40.799 of those different names. Y'all need to you know, like 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:42.480 y'all need to go do something. He called off a 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:46.400 bunch of street nigga names that's in the area and 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:50.040 and pretty much incited them to put into work. Check 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:52.160 it out. He just said it on a LAD interview. Well, 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:55.000 he said, Snoops in this interview from last year, says 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:58.240 you could watch one of the episodes of Unsolved, and 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:01.240 he said that they depicted what happened in New York 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:06.600 and Red Hood, Brooklyn pretty accurately. I don't remember the Yeah, okay, 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.399 I mean, don't try to see it, Like I don't 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:13.280 think nobody ever looked at Snoop like that. Snoop Dogg 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:17.639 has not really been outside of Long Beach, you know 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:21.600 what I'm saying until his music, right, so it's Snoop 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:25.800 Dogg like a like a you can actually this from Reggie, 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:29.880 a big name in the neighborhood before wrap. No, No, 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:33.840 he just was a little youngster like on the corner. 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.520 But but that's not my point. My point is just 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:40.000 that now and because who knows what he was feeling 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:43.119 and feeling ninety four x and all of that, because 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.480 he was on top of the world. My point is, 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:48.720 and he's still, you know, very successful. My point is 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:53.200 he's trying to be more of a politician now than ever. Yeah, 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.920 but I'm saying back and back. I mean, you know, 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:59.120 he doesn't. He never spoke about this incident in years 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:01.120 we made what do you think made him want to 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:03.240 talk about it last year? It's been a big topic 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:06.680 of subject, even though it happened with twenties seven years ago. 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:09.440 We talked about Tupac on this show there, every every 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.320 podcast were done there, and that happened twenty three four 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:16.520 years ago. But someone getting killed and a trailer getting 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:20.359 shot at two different things, Well, we associate. We associate 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:28.240 why why Snoop is being disloyal. Tupac is a subject 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:31.080 to us because we feel all feel that he's he's 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.760 trying to act like he's cool with Pop, but in 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:37.760 our mind and most of the community mind, he is 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:41.200 a bit That's typical niggaship though, niggas getting mad at 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.080 each other. Motherfucker's go their way and then they come 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:46.840 back and smiling your face but still really ain't got 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:51.360 over that that issue, but then smiled because they know 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:54.200 we gotta function, so they're smiling your face and ain't 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:58.080 really over it, so the animosity is still there. So 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.200 you have motherfucker's that all the mount of the skirts 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.400 opposed to, you know, letting that ship go as men. 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:08.520 You got some cats like they're saying nigga's bitches too, 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.680 so they think like that. I mean, the hottest thing 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:15.360 that's out right now is is Snoop and Puffy Uh 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.080 been trolling, you know, they say trolling sugar or whatever, 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:22.560 which I don't given about, but they both trolling. Trolling. 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:26.880 That's the youngster's no work. But he's him a Puffy 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:30.839 hanging out together at at Puffy House in New Jersey 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:33.280 with death row chains on well, Snoop had a death 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:37.560 row chain dancing and there, you know, Puffy pretty much acts. 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:40.120 You know, it's made the statement what Sho said to 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:43.160 him at the source of awards. So all right, Well, 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:45.520 what I found interesting about what Snoop said in this 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:49.720 two thousand and eighteen interview was after hearing what Biggie 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:52.279 said on the radio, he says, we didn't know what 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.200 that meant. We're thinking Nigga's are coming to show some 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:58.440 love like Brooklyn stand up. And that was one of 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:01.280 my points, just saying, right now Snoop Dogg is out 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:04.640 of Long Beach, how much knowledge on game ship does 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:07.000 he really have at this time? So if you hear 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:10.599 Biggie on the radio saying, what's happening Nigga Red Hook 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.200 is where the dog pounding Snoop are shooting the video 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:17.039 Brooklyn stand up? And I take that as a threat. 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:19.960 It sounds like a threat because if he was talking, 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:24.000 who come on, man, nigga ain't the words? Now, I 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:25.599 just put some extras on it because I don't know 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:30.800 how Biggie actually said that. The bay I could say, 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:36.080 what's happening? Swear dog pound and Snoop are shooting the video. Brooklyn, 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:39.040 stand up, that's coach man. You know those are coach 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:42.840 anybody know that that just sounds like coach man up there. 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:45.440 It was a song this in New York in their mind, 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:47.880 you know, you listen to Correl correct, I'll tell you 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:49.920 all day that they were paying how much to uh 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:53.560 New York they wanted to go to Times Square and 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:56.520 how Biggie and Puff and other people like that from 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:59.440 New York to come in and dance in the video exactly. 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:03.240 And the cooldest thing about that those dudes had the 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.920 money to pay the living homies should go out there 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:08.880 and do ship like that, do shooting up ship and 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:11.680 funding with ship like that. But so it's yeah, but 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:15.200 you know now you hear most people the same. It 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:17.520 was a Jimmy Hinchman call anyway, and Jimmy Henchman is 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:20.280 actually the one to send somebody the fires shots at 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.320 at the at the trailer, and it wasn't even so 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:26.600 much to call out on the radio, so you never know. Yeah, 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:30.000 I was just wondering, was the was the radio coming 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:33.880 by Biggie really meant for? Yeah, it was, it was 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.080 taking that way. I got to hear the tone he 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:40.720 never denied it, and people always say, well, why why 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.280 did he you know, did he really mean this? Why 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:45.720 do he really feel this way? You go listen at 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:48.720 that route that he did uh in l A on 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.600 the radio station out here, the Lone Kids Goodbye. He 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:54.040 was pretty much bagging about having something to do with 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:57.080 part getting killed. Then we get Biggie a pass to 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.040 try to make him a saint because we love his 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:02.120 mama so much. But man, everybody played a part, all right. 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:05.360 So um also last week I thought it was kind 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:09.160 of cool and um Spider actually remember the line from 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.880 jay Z when we're talking about East coast West coast 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.960 to south, we give Dre as props, but that's where 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:18.360 it stops. Where Dre was basically where j was basically saying, 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:21.000 we don't really like the West Coast. That was actually 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:24.680 on a song called The Watcher Too, and guests who 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:27.640 produced the album or the song Dr Dre. When I 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:29.520 looked it up, I saw Dr Dre's name was on it, 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.760 and that's from the album The Blueprint to release November 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:37.480 two thousand and two. So Dollars wrote, DREDA, Who's that 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:41.240 jay Z? The biggest song on Chronic well one of 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.280 the biggest songs on Chronic two thousand one. He didn't 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:46.079 go for right it, he wrote wrote it. So yeah, 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.400 I didn't know that there was this um, this long 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:54.040 relationship between Dr Dre and UH and UM we called 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:58.000 jay Z. Well, this song came out in two thousand two, 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:00.440 and I guess even in two thousand two, the East 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.240 Coast still wasn't given the West Coast love when it 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:05.400 came to music with because you got the biggest rapper 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:07.960 in New York basically saying we don't really mess with 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:12.920 the West, but we messed with Dr Drake because on 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:16.080 this album, and he was one of the producers on 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:20.720 on that song. So that was last week when Spider 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:23.199 said that. Now shout out to jay Z still becoming 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:25.840 a being there. Last week you said that the death 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:28.920 Row bankruptcy was around oh eight oh nine, I think, 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.480 but it was actually oh six. Does that make sense 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:35.160 eight o nine? If I did, I'm misspoken. I knew. 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:37.320 I think that's what I said. I went back to 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:40.280 start helping shook out with that during that time, but 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:43.760 I knew that I think I said, oh five oh six. Okay, well, 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:46.920 i'll fact check this fact check later on. But what's 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:50.040 really interesting about that is that the bankruptcy didn't complete 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:55.079 until two thousand sixteen. That's basically eleven ten eleven years. 0:09:55.840 --> 0:10:01.120 Why so long because there's still money to be made, 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:03.840 and the the only person to make a bankruptcy make money 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:08.400 in a bankruptcy is the attorneys exactly. And what they 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:11.360 call that guy, the one is over everything, the trusteed 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:13.520 or something like that, and the trusty hum, big ass. 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:15.440 You know about that? You just did one of two 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:18.160 thousand and sixteen. Now I found an article from two 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:21.160 thousand and sixteen that said that Dr Dre was old 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.920 eight million from the bankruptcy, Nate Dogg was worth five 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:27.480 was old five million, Tupac was old a million, and 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:29.959 none of them got the money. But everybody put in 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:32.199 a claim. And you put a claim, man, you you're 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:34.200 throwing up against the wall, hope for the best, and 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.440 you know, and Snoop Doggs claim was two million. Guess 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.480 what Chugs claim was a hundred and forty four million. 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:43.679 No one got any money except for the lawyers get 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:46.840 so much. The lawyers got eight point three million, they 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:48.679 got more than that. Do you think they got more 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:52.200 than that? Well? The company, so the catalog so for 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:58.560 like thirty six million, and so all that money was well, 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:01.760 usually lawyers get either from from one of them get 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:05.160 they got a judgment when they got a judgment that 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:08.160 they never got paid. Here the person that we filed 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:12.040 the bank Rose four was Michael Herrio. He never got 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.440 in here on Nidia never got any money. Well, since 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:17.760 here a Fanny finished your cor she got some money. 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:22.360 Tupac's mom got seventy k and then later fifty seven K. 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:26.240 So that's what Penny's really think about it. But but 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.040 what was her claim and what was she all because 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.120 but then you know, everything had been resolved, so it's 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:32.920 not like that's all she got and we're not gonna 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:36.400 start that room or because what you think huh to 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.480 the guy damn trusting in the attorneys fees paper all 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.959 the money that he had on the money, oh heel 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:47.360 off that she's always been broke, believed sheould have shouldn't 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:49.920 have money coming in and he would spend it as 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:53.600 it came, always always, So there's the money. The company 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:55.800 got some money. That's why I end up on the 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:59.160 building on Wilshire will Shore because I had to refinance. 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.280 I had to get money out. The paid big grippy 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:04.679 and and and give miss A some money and uh 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:07.280 and the DLC. Is it fair to say that death 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:12.240 row grossed over five million gross gross. Yeah, but that's 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:15.040 the interscope time water everybody more even more than that. Yeah, 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.880 I don't know. I mean it was we was able 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.040 to do whatever the funk we want, you know, and 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.400 neither that yachts and all of that stuff. But I'm 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:26.640 just saying it wasn't like what people would think. He 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:29.360 had timmillion dollars. The team me and twin millon dollars 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:31.680 said it, you know, sending in the count a one time, 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.880 but he would go get the money and be a 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:36.959 nigga and spend it. I was just shocked at the 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:41.240 bankruptcy took ten years to resolve, from oh six to sixteen. 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.880 That is unbelievable. The attorneys and that trusty want letting 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:48.720 their money go until they it was all gone. Also, 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:55.240 last week we talked about you mentioned Michael Durouttle that 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:57.480 a little out from corner Pocket. I believe he no, no, no, 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:02.480 it's from a little ills from the I'm sorry sorry, 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:04.800 he's from south Side. The Stone Brothers are from Corner Pockets. 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:07.800 Actually it was a father and a nephew. So Michael 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.959 Duroux was actually sentenced to three life terms without parole 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:18.120 in plus forty nine years um for his role in 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:21.320 the shootout at the Compton car wash, which was on 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:26.080 a Landralandra right next door to the tour down now 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:31.600 it was right across next Leander And for everyone who 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:33.920 doesn't know the people involved in that, it was Orlando 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:37.679 Anderson and Michael Dureaux. They were homeboys and they confronted 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:43.439 Michael Stone and his nephew Jerry Stone, and the way 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:47.920 the story goes, they all did at some point. And 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:51.680 there's two theories of what happened. One was over a debt, 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:54.040 a drug debt. That's the only theory, and the other 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:56.079 thing was one theory I read was it was over 0:13:56.120 --> 0:14:00.400 a gang conflict, but it didn't sound plausible. Feel over gamefront. 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:04.199 You don't go confront, Yeah, exactly. He started start dumping. Yeah, 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:08.440 so apparently, um, I think Michael Stone pulled out a gun. First, 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:10.920 Michael Darrow was like, hey, hey, put that gun away. 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:14.480 I guess Michael Stone didn't listen, he's and then Orlando 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:17.559 pulled his out and then they started shooting. So Orlando 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:21.760 started shooting and shot Michael Stone and Jerry Stone, and 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:25.240 then then Michael Dureau grabbed Orlando's gun because they one 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.800 of the Stones was still alive, and then I believe 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:33.040 he shot um Jerry Stone in self defense. I would say, 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:36.640 That's what my point was. Unfortunately, for a littlehile, he 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:38.720 didn't bring a gun to the to the gun battle. 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.720 Michael du Michael, Yeah, he came unarmed and he was 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:45.080 the passenger in the car with Orlando Anderson and didn't 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.920 even go there with any intentions of a shooting and 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:51.080 ends up with three life sentences, isn't that? But he 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.480 he was with him because they were cross street at 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:55.920 the Hamburger stand and they planned to go over there 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:57.280 and confront of him. That's where they get there. If 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.880 he wouldn't have said, we went over there to confront 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:02.640 I guess who who stopped him when they were trying 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:06.600 to leave them, we go to the hospital. Who's that senior, 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:08.600 Reggie right, senior. They didn't want to pull them over 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.520 and pulled out Michael what like it was like his nephew, 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:16.680 I mean him and Michael I was real close. So 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:18.560 I just think it's kind of unfortunate what happened to 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.120 Michael Reid. You know he's been the jail before, he 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:25.880 shot his c HP or officer before. Doesn't matter. That's 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:30.080 a big thing. You can change. Yeah, whatever, you definitely 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:35.480 can change. You might change. You can change it once 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.480 I go. Once you going in and get caught doing 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:42.200 something else and playing with gun play, then no, Well, 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:43.760 I know, on that day, I think it's fair to 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:49.600 say that Michael Michael Darrow had no intentions of shooting anybody. 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:51.920 His intentions was with me. And you could say, let's 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:53.880 go over here and confront James, let's go get our money, 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.160 Let's go get oh, what's some money? And we know 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:59.080 we got guns and all of that, and Orlando had 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:01.280 a gun. He didn't have a gun, but he mus 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:04.040 still admit that he knew that. Orlando probably always carried 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.120 a gun. And you don't think that sometimes you do, 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:14.040 Sometimes you don't. Not everyone always, you know, I might 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:17.160 be exaggerating, but not. Your homeboy doesn't always tell you 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:18.800 he's armed, because he might say, hey, can you give 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.840 me a ride? You got anything on you? Nine? I'm clean, 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:24.000 and he ain't clean. He just he needs a ride though, 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:26.000 And he probably got a ounce in his pocket and 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:28.760 strapping his back pocket. But he wants that ride. You 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:31.080 get pulled over and you're like, damn, everybody going to 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:35.560 jail because he didn't say that he was dirty, but Orlando, 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:41.000 Orlando usually do that. That's the that's the belief that 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:43.000 he was pretty you know, he was pretty active. So 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:46.800 when you're active, you probably always trapped. And everybody knows that, 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.840 I know money, I know he got a strap exactly, 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:54.320 so that that's not a question whether you had That's 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:56.160 not something we talk about. But I don't think that 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:59.240 Michael Durou should be held to a certain standard because 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:01.840 his homeboy got a gun. Ninety of the time that 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:04.760 gun's not getting pulled out. We're on the same page, though, 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.000 if if if we go and I got the gun, 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:09.840 I'm over to hold a gun on them, you check 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.240 the money or you do the chalking, and I got 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:15.040 the piston on anybody moved, I got it. That can 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.720 go either way. That's I mean the story is. And 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.240 you'll need to watch forty eight hours because you should 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:24.840 see how cops we celebrate when niggas talk. Soon as 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:28.360 we walk all the room talking about when you get 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:31.879 in that more fucking boot shot, then as a cop. 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:35.280 They used to tell us, you get into shooting good 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:40.280 or bad. Good are bad, make them order you to talk. 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:45.600 Don't talk because you're sitting up a trend if you 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:47.800 talk when it's good, and then when you have a 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:50.840 bad shooting, a questionable shooting, and you don't talk, So 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:54.280 don't talk. That's what all the your your attorneys, you'r 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:56.440 relpt will tell you. So the only thing you say 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:58.439 to a police officer when they when they put you 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:01.320 in the box, hey, y'all sir, And that's how you 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:03.440 say it so they won't lie and start creating ship 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:07.080 on you. The only thing you just say to also, hey, 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:09.680 viewers in my position, or if I was only your 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:14.520 family member, what would you do. Let's say that to him. 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:16.280 And if they can't respect that in here, that out 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:19.320 that they're not good for you anyway, because they'd be 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:21.680 you know what, you're right, man, A good cop would 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:25.920 be like, you're right, yeah, but that um but looking 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:28.360 for the hours you don't see I mean, they give 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:31.800 each other high fives and stuff like that as soon 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.480 as they get you to talk. And that's how most 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:37.000 of the time you see them. They don't even I 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:39.800 wish I could do a book on the man hours 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:42.280 is solving cases like that? Could solve a case like 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:44.919 that in Compton in forty hours? Niggas talk all the 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.520 times where if you don't have an eye witness, that's 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:50.000 the only way called stil cases is my niggas opened 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:52.159 up their mouths. Yeah, but what has that got to 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:56.320 do solving them in forty eight hours? Said the first 0:18:56.920 --> 0:19:04.080 the most important but most of the time. But yeah, 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:06.199 if you got the players, I mean, you know how 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:10.520 many times Reggie don't got people in the boxing? I mean, man, well, 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:12.840 the last thing I want to say about that Michael 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:16.159 Read situation was that Michael Stone was the guy that 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:19.040 pulled out the gun. First, He's the one that pulled 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:22.720 the strap out, and Michael's telling him, hey, put that away, 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:26.119 we're in here for all that. But then and then 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:29.960 Orlando pulled up. Yeah, well, I'm not sure who's the 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:32.320 first shooter in that situation. I don't think anyone really 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:34.720 knows what the London probably wouldn't have pulled his, if 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:38.240 boy wouldn't have pulled his, That just here's I mean, 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:40.760 you know what I'm saying. And when I know I'm 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:42.440 guilty and I know I'm olding you don't be a 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:45.320 little bit more aggressive. And when I know you owed 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:50.000 me aggressive just like this shirt. Motherfucker's ain't taking that 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:53.000 and ain't playing. You put a lot of fish on me. 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:56.000 That's the sign of just well, he probably been looking 0:19:56.040 --> 0:20:00.399 for him for a long time. Yeah, and I've waiting 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:04.560 to find have been by your house. The unfortunate part 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:08.639 of the law they have that if you can come 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:13.920 and commend to crime, you get on the murders. Yeah, 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:16.760 he got triple life set. I ain't even got gun 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:20.640 part of and I got trouple life plus forty nine 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:23.920 three life terms plus forty nine years. But you know, California, 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:26.439 it's something called rule if you can nick that up 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:29.840 next year, something called rule nineteen or nineteen. That that 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:32.280 a lot of guys getting out now for them felony murder, 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:34.680 the rule. Yeah, I believe that that Michael Durrow will 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:36.960 be out little out will be out soon. But he's 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:44.560 already been in there nineteen twenty. He's been over twenty 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:48.919 years already, you know, So three lives is only and 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:52.040 it is it's incredible that he got charged with all 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:54.880 three of those murders and got sentenced to three life 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:58.959 terms plus forty nine so uh punless you gotta remember 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:03.080 his red he shot a police officer before. Okay, was 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:07.080 he convicted for that? Yeah? Okay, Well they don't count 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:12.199 them really, but but you know, they might bring it up, 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:14.840 but then they'll tell the jury not to take this 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:19.520 into account. But it's supposed to be stilled. It's not 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:21.439 even about he probably took a deal. He probably never 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:22.840 want to trial on that, did he. Yeah he did, 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:27.119 he took a deal, but no, My point was the 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:32.399 judge took it in consideration and sentencing. Yeah, well, judges 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:34.920 can do whatever they want to do in most instances. Yeah, 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:39.280 there's really no accountability on stuff like that, and we 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:41.800 don't know the situation of circumstances of why he shot 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:44.200 the Was it the c HP officer? Yeah, I forget 0:21:44.280 --> 0:21:47.159 jumped down of stolen car. I don't I have to 0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:52.400 forget that. I don't. I love to put Yeah, damn, 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:56.159