1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald XI Jr. 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: And Allen Tomanso on the Digital Soapbox Network material witness 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: on an aggregated battery. I was a hang gun and 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: they believe this might be in retaliation to her testimony. 5 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of The Gangster Chronicles. This is 6 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: Alex Alonso from Street TV and I'm here with and 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: James and we have a great episode for you guys. 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 1: And we appreciate everyone that comes to our page and 9 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: where there's the Facebook page, Instagram page and submits information. 10 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: And we're gonna start this off with some fact checking 11 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: from last week. You couldn't remember read something or other. 12 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: The neighborhood that they were shooting the video we're talking 13 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: about the Snoop Dogg video or is it the dog 14 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: Pound video where the shooting happened was Red Hook, which 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: is a neighborhood in Brooklyn. So that was Red Hook, y'all. 16 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: And Red Hook as a well known area in Brooklyn. 17 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: I remember it when I was a kid living in 18 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: New York. And then I remember you said Biggie called it, 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: remember saying, so here's exactly what um what was said 20 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: on the radio. According to Snoop Duck, Snoop Dogg actually 21 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: did an interview in two thousand and eighteen where he 22 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 1: talked about this for the very first time, and he says, 23 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: we went up to the radio station to get that 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: funk Master Flex so we could let everyone in New 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: York know that we brought our low riders out. We're 26 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: shooting a video. All the New York rappers come mess 27 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: with us. And then, um, eventually he said, Flex gets 28 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: a call from from Biggie and says, um, Biggie goes 29 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: on the on the radio via phone like you guys mentioned, 30 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: and um, he says that m Flex gets a call 31 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: from Biggie that nigga. Biggie goes what's happening, Nigga Red 32 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: Hook is where the Dog Pound and Snoop Dogg are 33 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: shooting a video. Brooklyn stand up. So that was Biggie's 34 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: words to funk Master Flex on the radio. YO, And 35 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: I guess some people interpreted that as saying something and 36 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: then it says here, Um, we don't know. According to Snoop, 37 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: we don't know what that means. We think niggers are 38 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: coming to the show to show some love. Like Brooklyn 39 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: stand up, so we're still shooting the video. This is 40 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: Snoop talking the Dog Pound. We're all out in the 41 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: snow in front of the bricks and and we go 42 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: back to the trailer and then I guess the shooting 43 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: kind of happened. Like I always tell you all about 44 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: Snoop at as days, he trying to be a politician. 45 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: Go listen to Trade D. Trade D tell you more 46 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: in detail. And he just did an interview with Lad 47 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: where they heard him calling off all the different names 48 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: like you snot knows this nose, this versus and all 49 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: of those different names. Y'all need to you know, like 50 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: y'all need to go do something. He called off a 51 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: bunch of street nigga names that's in the area and 52 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: and pretty much incited them to put into work. Check 53 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: it out. He just said it on a LAD interview. Well, 54 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: he said, Snoops in this interview from last year, says 55 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: you could watch one of the episodes of Unsolved, and 56 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: he said that they depicted what happened in New York 57 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: and Red Hood, Brooklyn pretty accurately. I don't remember the Yeah, okay, 58 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 1: I mean, don't try to see it, Like I don't 59 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: think nobody ever looked at Snoop like that. Snoop Dogg 60 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: has not really been outside of Long Beach, you know 61 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying until his music, right, so it's Snoop 62 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: Dogg like a like a you can actually this from Reggie, 63 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: a big name in the neighborhood before wrap. No, No, 64 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: he just was a little youngster like on the corner. 65 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: But but that's not my point. My point is just 66 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: that now and because who knows what he was feeling 67 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,119 Speaker 1: and feeling ninety four x and all of that, because 68 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: he was on top of the world. My point is, 69 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: and he's still, you know, very successful. My point is 70 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: he's trying to be more of a politician now than ever. Yeah, 71 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: but I'm saying back and back. I mean, you know, 72 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: he doesn't. He never spoke about this incident in years 73 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: we made what do you think made him want to 74 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: talk about it last year? It's been a big topic 75 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: of subject, even though it happened with twenties seven years ago. 76 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: We talked about Tupac on this show there, every every 77 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: podcast were done there, and that happened twenty three four 78 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: years ago. But someone getting killed and a trailer getting 79 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: shot at two different things, Well, we associate. We associate 80 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: why why Snoop is being disloyal. Tupac is a subject 81 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: to us because we feel all feel that he's he's 82 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: trying to act like he's cool with Pop, but in 83 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: our mind and most of the community mind, he is 84 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: a bit That's typical niggaship though, niggas getting mad at 85 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: each other. Motherfucker's go their way and then they come 86 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: back and smiling your face but still really ain't got 87 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: over that that issue, but then smiled because they know 88 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: we gotta function, so they're smiling your face and ain't 89 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: really over it, so the animosity is still there. So 90 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: you have motherfucker's that all the mount of the skirts 91 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: opposed to, you know, letting that ship go as men. 92 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: You got some cats like they're saying nigga's bitches too, 93 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: so they think like that. I mean, the hottest thing 94 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: that's out right now is is Snoop and Puffy Uh 95 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: been trolling, you know, they say trolling sugar or whatever, 96 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: which I don't given about, but they both trolling. Trolling. 97 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: That's the youngster's no work. But he's him a Puffy 98 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: hanging out together at at Puffy House in New Jersey 99 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: with death row chains on well, Snoop had a death 100 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: row chain dancing and there, you know, Puffy pretty much acts. 101 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's made the statement what Sho said to 102 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: him at the source of awards. So all right, Well, 103 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: what I found interesting about what Snoop said in this 104 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: two thousand and eighteen interview was after hearing what Biggie 105 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: said on the radio, he says, we didn't know what 106 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: that meant. We're thinking Nigga's are coming to show some 107 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: love like Brooklyn stand up. And that was one of 108 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: my points, just saying, right now Snoop Dogg is out 109 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: of Long Beach, how much knowledge on game ship does 110 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: he really have at this time? So if you hear 111 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: Biggie on the radio saying, what's happening Nigga Red Hook 112 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: is where the dog pounding Snoop are shooting the video 113 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: Brooklyn stand up? And I take that as a threat. 114 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: It sounds like a threat because if he was talking, 115 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: who come on, man, nigga ain't the words? Now, I 116 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: just put some extras on it because I don't know 117 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: how Biggie actually said that. The bay I could say, 118 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: what's happening? Swear dog pound and Snoop are shooting the video. Brooklyn, 119 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: stand up, that's coach man. You know those are coach 120 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: anybody know that that just sounds like coach man up there. 121 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: It was a song this in New York in their mind, 122 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: you know, you listen to Correl correct, I'll tell you 123 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: all day that they were paying how much to uh 124 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: New York they wanted to go to Times Square and 125 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: how Biggie and Puff and other people like that from 126 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: New York to come in and dance in the video exactly. 127 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: And the cooldest thing about that those dudes had the 128 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: money to pay the living homies should go out there 129 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: and do ship like that, do shooting up ship and 130 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: funding with ship like that. But so it's yeah, but 131 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: you know now you hear most people the same. It 132 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: was a Jimmy Hinchman call anyway, and Jimmy Henchman is 133 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: actually the one to send somebody the fires shots at 134 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: at the at the trailer, and it wasn't even so 135 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: much to call out on the radio, so you never know. Yeah, 136 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: I was just wondering, was the was the radio coming 137 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: by Biggie really meant for? Yeah, it was, it was 138 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: taking that way. I got to hear the tone he 139 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: never denied it, and people always say, well, why why 140 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: did he you know, did he really mean this? Why 141 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: do he really feel this way? You go listen at 142 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: that route that he did uh in l A on 143 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: the radio station out here, the Lone Kids Goodbye. He 144 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: was pretty much bagging about having something to do with 145 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: part getting killed. Then we get Biggie a pass to 146 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: try to make him a saint because we love his 147 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: mama so much. But man, everybody played a part, all right. 148 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: So um also last week I thought it was kind 149 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: of cool and um Spider actually remember the line from 150 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: jay Z when we're talking about East coast West coast 151 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: to south, we give Dre as props, but that's where 152 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: it stops. Where Dre was basically where j was basically saying, 153 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: we don't really like the West Coast. That was actually 154 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: on a song called The Watcher Too, and guests who 155 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: produced the album or the song Dr Dre. When I 156 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: looked it up, I saw Dr Dre's name was on it, 157 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: and that's from the album The Blueprint to release November 158 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: two thousand and two. So Dollars wrote, DREDA, Who's that 159 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: jay Z? The biggest song on Chronic well one of 160 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: the biggest songs on Chronic two thousand one. He didn't 161 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: go for right it, he wrote wrote it. So yeah, 162 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: I didn't know that there was this um, this long 163 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: relationship between Dr Dre and UH and UM we called 164 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: jay Z. Well, this song came out in two thousand two, 165 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: and I guess even in two thousand two, the East 166 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: Coast still wasn't given the West Coast love when it 167 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: came to music with because you got the biggest rapper 168 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: in New York basically saying we don't really mess with 169 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: the West, but we messed with Dr Drake because on 170 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: this album, and he was one of the producers on 171 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: on that song. So that was last week when Spider 172 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: said that. Now shout out to jay Z still becoming 173 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: a being there. Last week you said that the death 174 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: Row bankruptcy was around oh eight oh nine, I think, 175 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: but it was actually oh six. Does that make sense 176 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: eight o nine? If I did, I'm misspoken. I knew. 177 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: I think that's what I said. I went back to 178 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: start helping shook out with that during that time, but 179 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: I knew that I think I said, oh five oh six. Okay, well, 180 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: i'll fact check this fact check later on. But what's 181 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: really interesting about that is that the bankruptcy didn't complete 182 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: until two thousand sixteen. That's basically eleven ten eleven years. 183 00:09:55,840 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: Why so long because there's still money to be made, 184 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: and the the only person to make a bankruptcy make money 185 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: in a bankruptcy is the attorneys exactly. And what they 186 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: call that guy, the one is over everything, the trusteed 187 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: or something like that, and the trusty hum, big ass. 188 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: You know about that? You just did one of two 189 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen. Now I found an article from two 190 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen that said that Dr Dre was old 191 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: eight million from the bankruptcy, Nate Dogg was worth five 192 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: was old five million, Tupac was old a million, and 193 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: none of them got the money. But everybody put in 194 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: a claim. And you put a claim, man, you you're 195 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: throwing up against the wall, hope for the best, and 196 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: you know, and Snoop Doggs claim was two million. Guess 197 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: what Chugs claim was a hundred and forty four million. 198 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: No one got any money except for the lawyers get 199 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: so much. The lawyers got eight point three million, they 200 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: got more than that. Do you think they got more 201 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: than that? Well? The company, so the catalog so for 202 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: like thirty six million, and so all that money was well, 203 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: usually lawyers get either from from one of them get 204 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: they got a judgment when they got a judgment that 205 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: they never got paid. Here the person that we filed 206 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: the bank Rose four was Michael Herrio. He never got 207 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: in here on Nidia never got any money. Well, since 208 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: here a Fanny finished your cor she got some money. 209 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: Tupac's mom got seventy k and then later fifty seven K. 210 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: So that's what Penny's really think about it. But but 211 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: what was her claim and what was she all because 212 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: but then you know, everything had been resolved, so it's 213 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: not like that's all she got and we're not gonna 214 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: start that room or because what you think huh to 215 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: the guy damn trusting in the attorneys fees paper all 216 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: the money that he had on the money, oh heel 217 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: off that she's always been broke, believed sheould have shouldn't 218 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: have money coming in and he would spend it as 219 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: it came, always always, So there's the money. The company 220 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: got some money. That's why I end up on the 221 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: building on Wilshire will Shore because I had to refinance. 222 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: I had to get money out. The paid big grippy 223 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: and and and give miss A some money and uh 224 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: and the DLC. Is it fair to say that death 225 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: row grossed over five million gross gross. Yeah, but that's 226 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: the interscope time water everybody more even more than that. Yeah, 227 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean it was we was able 228 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: to do whatever the funk we want, you know, and 229 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: neither that yachts and all of that stuff. But I'm 230 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: just saying it wasn't like what people would think. He 231 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: had timmillion dollars. The team me and twin millon dollars 232 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: said it, you know, sending in the count a one time, 233 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: but he would go get the money and be a 234 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 1: nigga and spend it. I was just shocked at the 235 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: bankruptcy took ten years to resolve, from oh six to sixteen. 236 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: That is unbelievable. The attorneys and that trusty want letting 237 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: their money go until they it was all gone. Also, 238 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: last week we talked about you mentioned Michael Durouttle that 239 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: a little out from corner Pocket. I believe he no, no, no, 240 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: it's from a little ills from the I'm sorry sorry, 241 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: he's from south Side. The Stone Brothers are from Corner Pockets. 242 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: Actually it was a father and a nephew. So Michael 243 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: Duroux was actually sentenced to three life terms without parole 244 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: in plus forty nine years um for his role in 245 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: the shootout at the Compton car wash, which was on 246 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: a Landralandra right next door to the tour down now 247 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: it was right across next Leander And for everyone who 248 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: doesn't know the people involved in that, it was Orlando 249 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: Anderson and Michael Dureaux. They were homeboys and they confronted 250 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: Michael Stone and his nephew Jerry Stone, and the way 251 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: the story goes, they all did at some point. And 252 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: there's two theories of what happened. One was over a debt, 253 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: a drug debt. That's the only theory, and the other 254 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: thing was one theory I read was it was over 255 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: a gang conflict, but it didn't sound plausible. Feel over gamefront. 256 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: You don't go confront, Yeah, exactly. He started start dumping. Yeah, 257 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: so apparently, um, I think Michael Stone pulled out a gun. First, 258 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: Michael Darrow was like, hey, hey, put that gun away. 259 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: I guess Michael Stone didn't listen, he's and then Orlando 260 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: pulled his out and then they started shooting. So Orlando 261 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: started shooting and shot Michael Stone and Jerry Stone, and 262 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: then then Michael Dureau grabbed Orlando's gun because they one 263 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: of the Stones was still alive, and then I believe 264 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: he shot um Jerry Stone in self defense. I would say, 265 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: That's what my point was. Unfortunately, for a littlehile, he 266 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: didn't bring a gun to the to the gun battle. 267 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: Michael du Michael, Yeah, he came unarmed and he was 268 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: the passenger in the car with Orlando Anderson and didn't 269 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: even go there with any intentions of a shooting and 270 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: ends up with three life sentences, isn't that? But he 271 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: he was with him because they were cross street at 272 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: the Hamburger stand and they planned to go over there 273 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: and confront of him. That's where they get there. If 274 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: he wouldn't have said, we went over there to confront 275 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: I guess who who stopped him when they were trying 276 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: to leave them, we go to the hospital. Who's that senior, 277 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: Reggie right, senior. They didn't want to pull them over 278 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: and pulled out Michael what like it was like his nephew, 279 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: I mean him and Michael I was real close. So 280 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: I just think it's kind of unfortunate what happened to 281 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: Michael Reid. You know he's been the jail before, he 282 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: shot his c HP or officer before. Doesn't matter. That's 283 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: a big thing. You can change. Yeah, whatever, you definitely 284 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: can change. You might change. You can change it once 285 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: I go. Once you going in and get caught doing 286 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: something else and playing with gun play, then no, Well, 287 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: I know, on that day, I think it's fair to 288 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: say that Michael Michael Darrow had no intentions of shooting anybody. 289 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: His intentions was with me. And you could say, let's 290 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: go over here and confront James, let's go get our money, 291 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: Let's go get oh, what's some money? And we know 292 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: we got guns and all of that, and Orlando had 293 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: a gun. He didn't have a gun, but he mus 294 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: still admit that he knew that. Orlando probably always carried 295 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: a gun. And you don't think that sometimes you do, 296 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes you don't. Not everyone always, you know, I might 297 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: be exaggerating, but not. Your homeboy doesn't always tell you 298 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: he's armed, because he might say, hey, can you give 299 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: me a ride? You got anything on you? Nine? I'm clean, 300 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: and he ain't clean. He just he needs a ride though, 301 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: And he probably got a ounce in his pocket and 302 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: strapping his back pocket. But he wants that ride. You 303 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: get pulled over and you're like, damn, everybody going to 304 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: jail because he didn't say that he was dirty, but Orlando, 305 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: Orlando usually do that. That's the that's the belief that 306 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: he was pretty you know, he was pretty active. So 307 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: when you're active, you probably always trapped. And everybody knows that, 308 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: I know money, I know he got a strap exactly, 309 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: so that that's not a question whether you had That's 310 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: not something we talk about. But I don't think that 311 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: Michael Durou should be held to a certain standard because 312 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: his homeboy got a gun. Ninety of the time that 313 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: gun's not getting pulled out. We're on the same page, though, 314 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: if if if we go and I got the gun, 315 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: I'm over to hold a gun on them, you check 316 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: the money or you do the chalking, and I got 317 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: the piston on anybody moved, I got it. That can 318 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: go either way. That's I mean the story is. And 319 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: you'll need to watch forty eight hours because you should 320 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: see how cops we celebrate when niggas talk. Soon as 321 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 1: we walk all the room talking about when you get 322 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: in that more fucking boot shot, then as a cop. 323 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: They used to tell us, you get into shooting good 324 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: or bad. Good are bad, make them order you to talk. 325 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: Don't talk because you're sitting up a trend if you 326 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: talk when it's good, and then when you have a 327 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: bad shooting, a questionable shooting, and you don't talk, So 328 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: don't talk. That's what all the your your attorneys, you'r 329 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: relpt will tell you. So the only thing you say 330 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 1: to a police officer when they when they put you 331 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: in the box, hey, y'all sir, And that's how you 332 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: say it so they won't lie and start creating ship 333 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: on you. The only thing you just say to also, hey, 334 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: viewers in my position, or if I was only your 335 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: family member, what would you do. Let's say that to him. 336 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: And if they can't respect that in here, that out 337 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: that they're not good for you anyway, because they'd be 338 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: you know what, you're right, man, A good cop would 339 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: be like, you're right, yeah, but that um but looking 340 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 1: for the hours you don't see I mean, they give 341 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: each other high fives and stuff like that as soon 342 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: as they get you to talk. And that's how most 343 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: of the time you see them. They don't even I 344 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: wish I could do a book on the man hours 345 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: is solving cases like that? Could solve a case like 346 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 1: that in Compton in forty hours? Niggas talk all the 347 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: times where if you don't have an eye witness, that's 348 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: the only way called stil cases is my niggas opened 349 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: up their mouths. Yeah, but what has that got to 350 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: do solving them in forty eight hours? Said the first 351 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: the most important but most of the time. But yeah, 352 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 1: if you got the players, I mean, you know how 353 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: many times Reggie don't got people in the boxing? I mean, man, well, 354 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: the last thing I want to say about that Michael 355 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: Read situation was that Michael Stone was the guy that 356 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: pulled out the gun. First, He's the one that pulled 357 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: the strap out, and Michael's telling him, hey, put that away, 358 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: we're in here for all that. But then and then 359 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: Orlando pulled up. Yeah, well, I'm not sure who's the 360 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: first shooter in that situation. I don't think anyone really 361 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: knows what the London probably wouldn't have pulled his, if 362 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: boy wouldn't have pulled his, That just here's I mean, 363 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And when I know I'm 364 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: guilty and I know I'm olding you don't be a 365 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: little bit more aggressive. And when I know you owed 366 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: me aggressive just like this shirt. Motherfucker's ain't taking that 367 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: and ain't playing. You put a lot of fish on me. 368 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: That's the sign of just well, he probably been looking 369 00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: for him for a long time. Yeah, and I've waiting 370 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: to find have been by your house. The unfortunate part 371 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: of the law they have that if you can come 372 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: and commend to crime, you get on the murders. Yeah, 373 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: he got triple life set. I ain't even got gun 374 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: part of and I got trouple life plus forty nine 375 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: three life terms plus forty nine years. But you know, California, 376 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 1: it's something called rule if you can nick that up 377 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: next year, something called rule nineteen or nineteen. That that 378 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: a lot of guys getting out now for them felony murder, 379 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: the rule. Yeah, I believe that that Michael Durrow will 380 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: be out little out will be out soon. But he's 381 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: already been in there nineteen twenty. He's been over twenty 382 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: years already, you know, So three lives is only and 383 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: it is it's incredible that he got charged with all 384 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: three of those murders and got sentenced to three life 385 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,959 Speaker 1: terms plus forty nine so uh punless you gotta remember 386 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: his red he shot a police officer before. Okay, was 387 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: he convicted for that? Yeah? Okay, Well they don't count 388 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 1: them really, but but you know, they might bring it up, 389 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: but then they'll tell the jury not to take this 390 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: into account. But it's supposed to be stilled. It's not 391 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: even about he probably took a deal. He probably never 392 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: want to trial on that, did he. Yeah he did, 393 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: he took a deal, but no, My point was the 394 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: judge took it in consideration and sentencing. Yeah, well, judges 395 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: can do whatever they want to do in most instances. Yeah, 396 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: there's really no accountability on stuff like that, and we 397 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: don't know the situation of circumstances of why he shot 398 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: the Was it the c HP officer? Yeah, I forget 399 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: jumped down of stolen car. I don't I have to 400 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: forget that. I don't. I love to put Yeah, damn, 401 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: he started, you know, and he wanted the first. You know, 402 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: they always say, how can you be out there doing 403 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: the drive by? It's five yard in the car with 404 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: five guns. One police officer, pull you over and take 405 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: everybody to jail because everybody will to take that penitentiary time. 406 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: But god demn it don't make you taking a penitential 407 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 1: chance doing the drive ball. They just came over three 408 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: we start. Man. You remember, I remember guncasing Compton used 409 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: to be a misdemeanor case, especially the first time. Ten 410 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: days uh ten days the county jail, three years, uh 411 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: uh probation. That's what they did was they gave me 412 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: well lead forward actually helped me out on that because 413 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: dude didn't come to court. That's when they used to 414 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: do the seventy two hour things. They don't do that 415 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: no more. And the dudes at the light with us 416 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: and he got the throwing it up game banging we 417 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: have were on Roastcrans and Brackfield and were just celebrating, 418 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 1: just leaving out the parks, celebrating top Dogs birthday. And 419 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: then they just got the throwing rags all out the band, 420 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: just banging and unfortunately somebody shot at him right, so 421 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: the police was, uh pardon was two guards behind us 422 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: and they called us. Then when he took us to jail, 423 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: he say, I saw you do it. You know, he 424 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: say me do ship. The paradin was a cop to yeah, 425 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: but he was also he was a mayor and he 426 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: was he was he was my partner. I mean he's 427 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: he's my father's trainee and he eventually was my training 428 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: at the Lots Park plunge, at the pool he worked at. 429 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: He worked always worked from the city and Daddy was 430 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:45,719 Speaker 1: over the His brother Percy Parrodon was a commander at 431 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: the police partment. Remember Eric Parrodon won won the mayor, 432 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: but then they overturned it and gave it to Omar Radley. 433 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: That never happened. He kept a full turning. I don't 434 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: want to put him in now. They filed a claim 435 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: against because he didn't ain't some of the money that 436 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: I gave him when I was working for Death Throw, 437 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 1: and he had to pay that back like twelve or fourteen. 438 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: But but Omar, that's why he hates me to this 439 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: day because he was running a wreck in the city 440 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, why would you say he 441 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: was running the wreck? It was running. I sat in 442 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: that trial against Omar Bradley and all the allegations they 443 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,719 Speaker 1: had against him with Tiki tach financial out um, like, uh, 444 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: they're all small time expenses. I was waiting to hear 445 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: a week ago, just got found his case this finally 446 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: got where he got conviction of Yeah, he tried to 447 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: get it up here. But let me just say that. 448 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: Let me say this about the one thing about the 449 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: about when he was there, that city was clean. He 450 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: was big on making park not parking public U public servant. 451 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: I forget the department, but the one to clean up 452 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: the city and all that. He stayed on the ass. 453 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: But in that trial I was wouldn't be the way 454 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: they are under his wife. I was waiting to hear 455 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: um misappropriation of hundreds of thousands of dollars. You know 456 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: what the offenses that Omar Bradley was convicted of. It 457 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: was buying a souvenir at a golf gift shop. That's 458 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: that's all they got. Because they started paying. They knew 459 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: they was getting back invest Yeah, they talked about he 460 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: was trying to pay, but he was trying to pay 461 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: back three hundred dollars. He was all small amount in 462 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: the credit card and they were paying it back and 463 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: they had it for for years. But the but the 464 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: city manager took the fall for most of it, which 465 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: was his boy. Him, my professor from lou got a 466 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: lot of respect from me for him. But they were 467 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: doing things and and and that's what they got him on. 468 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: They were getting a hotel because they're gonna have a 469 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: meeting and they're using the city car to get a hotel. 470 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: All the spending was minor, so I feel like he 471 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 1: was targeted. I was like, they don't like they want 472 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: to get rid of all. They don't want to Omar 473 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: to ever run for public office again because he spent 474 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 1: ten dollars on No, no, that some of these things 475 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: actually cost yeah, added up. One of the things was 476 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: a ball marker. You're using golf, that's ten dollars in 477 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: the gift shop. Well yeah, some of the chats with 478 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: three hundred, the hotel room they were they were five 479 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Was was the most thinking that the city 480 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: manager can do without approval At four he wasn't convicted 481 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: of anything like that. It still doesn't matter if you 482 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: if you'd hit of a corporation every time, should be 483 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: accountable for. I'm gonna use my own money for the 484 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: things that I need. Don't take I don't care if 485 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: it's ten dollars. This is no. So when Obama goes 486 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: to the local store in Washington, d C. And buy sandwiches, 487 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: we're talking about the president. That's taxpayer money. I'm just saying, 488 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: when a politician uses taxpayer money, you know the game player, 489 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: you know the you should know what to use, you 490 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: know what to do at the right time your money. 491 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: But you're allowed to do stuff like go get lunch. 492 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: But if them out, yeah, so you should be allowed 493 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: to go play golf if it's for the betterment the 494 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: betterment of the city of Compton. I believe. I believe 495 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: four thousand, nine d nine nine dollars. Sometimes, well, that 496 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 1: wasn't that was not what Omar Bradley was convicted for 497 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: his first conviction. By the way, it was overturned when 498 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: he was convicted of the same thing with thirteen fourteen 499 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: years ago. This trial that he had in two thousand 500 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: seventeen was a retrial from what happened fifteen years ago. 501 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: So it just was I said, I'm gonna sitting in 502 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: this trial, all right. Don't you think honestly that we're 503 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: being watched and were in high positions anyway, I think 504 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: if people of color like you and I that's watched, 505 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: I think more than more than I think all the 506 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: Mexicans always getting done. I said people, I said people, 507 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: of color very rarely, very rarely. But yeah, but it 508 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: is the politicians in the in the ghetto areas and 509 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But because America is going to be 510 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,959 Speaker 1: with the majority minority country, got rolled up and there 511 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: was a bunch of people and Bill got rolled up, 512 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: and they wouldn't just they weren't. You know, they allowed 513 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: white people to resign, They allowed them to step down, 514 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: they allowed them to lie. Baker's lie. Baker's in prison. 515 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: My point. Yeah, but he's of color, though he's of 516 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: Latino descent. I don't see um Bratton or any of these. 517 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: I never saw Chief Darryl Gates looking at any time 518 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: he resigned and let him resign. So yeah, I do 519 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: believe that people of color that are in political positions 520 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: do have a microscope over them. You know, look at 521 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: the Ray Nagan from New Orleans. He's in prison, serving 522 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: twelve years in the FEDS. Just first, same thing to 523 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: Omar Bradley did. Spending a little bit of money for 524 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,479 Speaker 1: the betterment of New Orleans, but they wanted to get 525 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: rid of Ray Nagan. Chicago got a whole bunch of mirrors. 526 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Blagoya Vinch was one of them, all right, 527 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: So but you know, you bring up an interesting point 528 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: about interrogation, and I want to talk about that because 529 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: there's this show on TV right now and we're not 530 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: gonna go into the details of the show this week. 531 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: Maybe next week we'll talk about the show. But it's 532 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: called When They See Us and it's about the Central 533 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: Park five five teenagers that were convicted of a rape 534 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: in and it turned out they were all innocent. And 535 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: how were they found guilty. They were found guilty by 536 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: aggressive interrogation tactics that the police did on all five 537 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: of these teenagers separately, to where the teenagers eventually just 538 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: started to say whatever the police wanted to hear because 539 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: they want to go home. Here's one of the tactics 540 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: that that cops will use. They'll say, look, tell us 541 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: the truth and you can go home. Tell us the 542 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: truth and we'll let you leave, be out of here 543 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: before dinner time. Uh, you don't tell us the truth, 544 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna whoop your ass because this was wrong. You 545 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: knew it was wrong. I mean I didn't have to 546 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: come all different kind of way. I'd have been slapped 547 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: by the police. Uh. I can say his name, now, 548 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: what's the fact white boy name in Lanwood. It was 549 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: the dirty Ones Graves and Uh Graves wanted me and 550 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: wanted me to do an interview I got. They raided 551 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: our house, found a lot of gang ship photo albums 552 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: and all that ship, and they didn't want me to 553 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: do a gang interview. Right before this cops ship was 554 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: coming out the street of the ship cops on TV, 555 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: and Uh I told him no, I didn't want to 556 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: do it. Motherfucker's slapped the ship out of me. I 557 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: didn't do the video, but it was like, goddamn, but 558 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: I'm handcuffed. I'm sitting there and these people here. I 559 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't sign no release or nothing, and the motherfucker threw 560 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: me in the cage. You asked out you, what choices 561 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: do you have when when you're dealing with the police 562 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: and they can they can do whatever the funk they 563 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: want to do with you. You know what I'm saying you. 564 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: All you can do is just absorb what they got 565 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: to get what they bringing to you, and you can't 566 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: do no more. All the holland and want to fight 567 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: and all of that ship, You're only bringing more ship 568 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: to you now. I don't think Reggie right Junr used 569 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: those types of techniques when you was um bringing people in. 570 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: I never really had to put my hands on people, 571 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: but I help put my hands on people. But um, um, 572 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: what do you think about the aggressive style of interrogation? Um, 573 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: we didn't get away with that at our department. Won't 574 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: be honest when we um, I'm not saying we didn't. 575 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: Wasn't a little heavy handed or stuff like that, but 576 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: un necessary ship, Yeah, we didn't. We were mainly more 577 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: of a city of um, of respect and all of 578 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: that because we had black, black management. And you get 579 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: a couple of complaints about that ship there they move 580 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: your ass. I love you wouldn't want to be no, 581 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: but a game banger ain't gonna go to the police 582 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: station and say, you wouldn't believe how many times that's 583 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: some crazy ship. They pulled us over one day on 584 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: Stockton and pans sagging. My parents are sagging, and the 585 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: mothercker took the billy club across my ass and across 586 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: the back part of my ass. Bam bam with your 587 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: pants hanging all that know nothing? Yeah, I mean, come on, 588 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: I comp all the men, good guys I'm talking about. 589 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: But what you complaint and if if if you came 590 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: to complaint and you got two or three complaints like that, 591 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: they wrote your ass up. Yeah, But if you're the 592 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: subject of an investigation like these five kids were the 593 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: subject of a rape investigation, there's nothing to complain about. 594 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: You can't who you complain to. They think you're this 595 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: guil Mama, my mama. I would want some aggressive officers 596 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: like that if I felt they were the ones that 597 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: did it. Now, I'm not for creating evidence or are 598 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: lying on people. That wasn't what it was about. But 599 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: as far as setting them in the box and trying 600 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: to get one of them and then when you get 601 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you get four motherfucker's four with five of 602 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: them to start telling you the story, and then you 603 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: start believing it, especially when one started what's that one 604 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: crack and told them they were down the right and 605 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: it's obvious they were. They did something wrong with that. 606 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: I don't know that they're repeating them. Well, that's what 607 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: we find out now because Mattia's ris or whatever. We 608 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: end up finding out his DNA was the one that 609 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: was that was involved in it, but just had nothing 610 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: to do with this rape. They were there, I mean, 611 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: the different parts of the part. They didn't even also 612 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: let's also say they didn't even know each other. And 613 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: so but my point is you never give it up. 614 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: But once if this was my mother or something like that. 615 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: And I got one guy that's starting to say, yeah, okay, 616 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: we're there, we were there, and we did this and 617 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: did that, I won't start pushing and and stay on 618 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: the other three or four guys, because why would this guy, 619 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: you know, in my mind, why would this gonna be 620 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: copping out to something like that if they didn't do it. 621 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: Now I understand this. This is a rich white lady, 622 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: you know, thinks she worked in Wall Street or something 623 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: like that, or she was a banker or something like 624 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: that that that this this happened to. And so of 625 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: course there was a high profile case, but so unfortunate situation. Um. 626 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: I hate that the guy's broke down and and and 627 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: told it. Um you know, and you know, I guess 628 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: they was exhausted or tired. And only one of these 629 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: guys ever, and how they came out, they just started 630 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: they was slap. Okay, this is why a young kid 631 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: you can't slap, need to make me tell. And they're 632 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: all teenagers. Awesome, So you got grown as man. Probably 633 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 1: you will sharge your head. You're just so it just 634 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,439 Speaker 1: it can stop. I'll tell you what you want want 635 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: want me to say? What I mean, I'll you what 636 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: you want me to say if you stop hitting me, 637 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: I might say that, but they ain't said that. They 638 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: start telling the story of what the costs. They denied 639 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 1: any involvement for hours and hours and hours. Everybody does 640 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: at the beginning, and then eventually they start to repeat 641 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: the stuff that they're hearing in the questioned the hits 642 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 1: or the slaps or whatever to stop because they say, look, 643 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 1: you're not going home, you're not leaving here. And they 644 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: were slow. That's what people don't know about the kids. 645 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: The guy, uh, Corey Wise, he you know, he was 646 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: depth in the ear or couldn't hear um. You know, 647 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: his dad, I guess his dad worked for a law 648 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: a law office, and and he you know, he admitted 649 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 1: in the law you know, the lawsuit that he was 650 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: a little slow and it had a hard time hearing 651 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: and all of that. A matter of fact, he got 652 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: tried as an adult. That's the one though, sixteen years 653 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: old that they tried and he had to go to 654 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: an adult prison. Um eventually, but he got a it's 655 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: called Corey Innocent Project in Colorado, and so he's doing 656 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: stuff for people, prom bowling on from his money and 657 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: stuff like that. So shout out to here and keep 658 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: up the good work, bro. I hate that that happening. 659 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean, there's that's that's where that that. I know 660 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: that it happens, and it's unfortunate. But I understand the 661 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: zealous of law enforcement trying to make a case like 662 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: that happen. But how many innocent people went to jail 663 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 1: because people eventually, under the pressure of a ten hour 664 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: interrogation and being immature, are slow. We just eventually say, 665 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 1: just put a cap on it. I mean, I think 666 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: the cops gotta be a little bit more aware of 667 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: their style of tech, their their technique and interrogation. If 668 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: the information that this guy is feeding me is the 669 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: same stuff that I already told them that I know 670 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: you did, that's almost being stupid. And that was a 671 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: good thing about Great Katie's that I liked that a lot. 672 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,959 Speaker 1: When he said where he pretty much always said things 673 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,439 Speaker 1: that and that's what a cop, a good cop would 674 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,280 Speaker 1: have done. Or he said things that kep d didn't 675 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: know that we knew he told us and that's why 676 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: we always believe a story. And so a good cop 677 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: would press for that because not usually what what I'm 678 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: axing you, it's the lies that usually get your cart up, 679 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: And that's what they're trying to focus on, even with 680 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,800 Speaker 1: trap for another way, how do they get conversated for that? 681 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 1: How do why the d A can't see through the man? 682 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: She is? OK, let's let's mention her name. The prosecutors 683 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: Linda fairstea was on he was on next flex board 684 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: they and she's being um, she's being like, she has 685 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: to to um, I guess relinquish all these positions that 686 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: she had on different boards. Also, she's the author of 687 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: thirty novels and now the publishers of those novels are 688 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: considering continuing to use her as a writer. People are 689 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: now on the heads of these publishers say why would 690 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: you publish Linda Fairstein's books considering what she did to 691 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: these five teenagers. So she's going through it right now. 692 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: But she's gonna go to jail. She's not gonna do 693 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 1: no time. But that's that's the point. She should go 694 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: to jail. Some people, where's the accountability? Yeah, Well, if 695 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: the police knew they lie and if they check this out, Reggie, 696 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: if the police knew they would go to prison for 697 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,720 Speaker 1: what happened to these five kids, they would completely revamp 698 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: the style of interrogation because that that would be every 699 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: time mother's will be like gonna get Reggie Jr. In 700 00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: jail about to go lie and say I robbed the 701 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: bank and then turn out later I didn't rob the bank. 702 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: And but you want to go to jail for robbing 703 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: the bank for ten years just to get someone in 704 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 1: trouble to come out later. And I have James going 705 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 1: to say, no, I don't want to rob the bank. 706 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: That was me. No one want to be saying to 707 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: a crime and lose their freedom just to get someone 708 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: in trouble. What y'all just said, what y'all just said 709 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 1: was you shouldn't all enforcemen go to jail for when 710 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,919 Speaker 1: people UH create stuff or absolutely they created a case. 711 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: They absolutely created a case against these five people. Know 712 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: they create a case? They did? They didn't. This has 713 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: been a digital so much network production