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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Welcome to the program already in progress, final

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Speaker 1: hour on this Tuesday, trade deadline coming up in five

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Speaker 1: hours from now. I mentioned a couple of players that

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Speaker 1: could be traded, and maybe one of those players would

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Speaker 1: be Odell Beckham Junior. I don't think it's going to happen,

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Speaker 1: but if you do shop Odell Beckham Junior, you better

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Speaker 1: trade him because I would hate for him to be

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Speaker 1: thinking he's going to be traded, not traded, and then

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Speaker 1: going back into that locker room. I would not want

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Speaker 1: to put up with that the rest of the year.

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Speaker 1: And I don't put the blame at his feet. I don't.

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Speaker 1: It's easy when we go all the Browns are struggling,

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior didn't do anything. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: put that on him. I think the problem is is

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Speaker 1: we treat him as if he's Jerry Rice. He's had

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Speaker 1: a couple of great moments there, one or two great seasons.

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Speaker 1: He had one spectacular catch, but that's it. He's been

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Speaker 1: okay with Browns, But I don't we treat him as

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Speaker 1: if he's still one of the best receivers in the game.

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Speaker 1: He's not. Is he talented? Sure, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys who were talented. But if I could move him

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Speaker 1: and get something in return, then I would. But Cleveland

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Speaker 1: right now doesn't have any playmakers. Got to have the

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Speaker 1: running game. Their offensive line is banged up. Jarvis Landry

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Speaker 1: has my go to wide receiver. Defense has been playing

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Speaker 1: pretty well, but you need to beat the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 1: And if you look at some of Baker Mayfield's throws,

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Speaker 1: they were a little bit off, but they still they

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Speaker 1: should have been caught and they should have won that game.

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Speaker 1: They should have won that game by ten points two touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: I'm not putting this on Odell Beckham. I just don't

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Speaker 1: look at him as a big threat anymore. He was

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Speaker 1: fascinating when he was with the Giants, and I think

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Speaker 1: when the Browns got him, you go, Okay, Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: is a go to guy. We'll be careful when you

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Speaker 1: get the go to guy because the go to guy

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Speaker 1: expect the ball all the time once the ball needs

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Speaker 1: his touches. Hey, I'm Odell Beckham, don't you know who

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Speaker 1: I am? And Baker Mayfield, you're a young quarterback, impressionable.

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Speaker 1: You want Odell Beckham to respect you and be your friend,

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Speaker 1: and then you start looking for him too much. And

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Speaker 1: the defenses knew this. But Odell Beckham is not a

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Speaker 1: great player anymore, and maybe when he gets healthy, if

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Speaker 1: he's still banged up, he's gotten hurt there in Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: but I just don't look at him. I can watch

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Speaker 1: a Browns game and forget he's on the field. How

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Speaker 1: many great wide receivers can you do that with? Probably

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Speaker 1: not many, I know when DeVante Adams is on the

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Speaker 1: field and not on the field, but with Odell Beckham,

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Speaker 1: maybe being on a different team, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: this is his last stop, maybe he could kind of

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Speaker 1: recapture some of that lost glory there. Yeah, Paul, I

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Speaker 1: still don't understand it when he's healthy, unless he's just

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Speaker 1: perpetually not help. They don't even really target him that much.

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Speaker 1: I think he's got He's got thirty four targets in

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Speaker 1: six games. Tyreek Hill has ninety targets in eight games.

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Speaker 1: And they are similar players than like they're underneath you

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Speaker 1: get them. They're hard to deal with. It's like they

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Speaker 1: never they don't choose to go to him, but it's

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Speaker 1: almost as if they went to him too much. Now

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Speaker 1: they're not going to him enough. And as they move

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Speaker 1: forward here, and you know, they might be the third

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Speaker 1: best team in their division right now, maybe fourth when

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Speaker 1: you think about it. And this was a on the

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Speaker 1: short list of Super Bowl teams. And the AFC is

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Speaker 1: open for business aside from Buffalo because with Derrick Henry

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Speaker 1: going down, obviously it's a huge loss for the Titans.

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Speaker 1: They'd already beaten Buffalo, beat in Kansas City, they beat

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Speaker 1: the Colts, They can beat anybody in the AFC, but

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Speaker 1: without Derrick Henry, it's going to be a little bit different.

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Speaker 1: This is where the Browns should have been able or

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Speaker 1: should be able to take advantage of the AFC, because

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Speaker 1: it's not formidable. Even Kansas City last night, you know,

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Speaker 1: they struggle to beat the Giants penalties, turnovers, and the

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Speaker 1: Giants hung in there. As you move forward, it feels

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Speaker 1: like it's Buffalo and then it's everybody else. Yeah, Mike,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what happened to Odell Beckham Jr. It's

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Speaker 1: against the grain theory that Eli Manning made wide receivers great.

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Speaker 1: And anybody who leaves the Giants is never gonna do

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Speaker 1: anything else. If you got. No one threw a more

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Speaker 1: catchable ball by Eli. The problem is the cornerback would

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Speaker 1: often catch it too. He put so much air under

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Speaker 1: the ball that all I Keemnecks, Mario Manning, hand, Monti Tumor,

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Speaker 1: Victor Cruz, they all got paid elsewhere and never caught

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm okay with that. Yeah, Eli put a nice

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's it. I don't know, but Baker, you know,

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Speaker 1: Baker doesn't seem to have be able to find him

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Speaker 1: even when he tries. Is that I know you're just

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Speaker 1: saying it's not on Odell All, No, it's not. But

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Speaker 1: I just don't know. I don't know how into it

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Speaker 1: he is, you know that. You know, sometimes you get

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Speaker 1: somebody who is like Steve Smith with Carolina. He was passionate,

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Speaker 1: like he was into it. I need Odell to feel

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Speaker 1: like an underdog here improve himself again, because when he does,

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Speaker 1: you know, the very few players who are like him.

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Speaker 1: But he's sort of the Jadeveon Clowney of wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney made one play in his career. That was

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Speaker 1: the Vincent Smith hit when he was in college when

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Speaker 1: they faced Michigan in a bowl game. That's it. He

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Speaker 1: became the first pick of the draft and he's been good.

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Speaker 1: He's not great, but I just feel like Odell Beckham

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Speaker 1: has had one moment with the one handed grab against

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Now he has done other things and had

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Speaker 1: a lot of catches. He had three good seasons first three. Yeah, McLevin.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the average even like knowledgeable NFL fans

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Speaker 1: remember that Jadeveon Clowney's in Cleveland right now? No, No,

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Speaker 1: they might think he's in Seattle. But you're right. There

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Speaker 1: are times when you watch a game, but there are

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Speaker 1: players that have these moments, and those moments overshadow the

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Speaker 1: other moments where they don't do anything. You're like, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, did you see that? It's like a dunk.

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Speaker 1: But then you go, how what else did he do? H?

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Speaker 1: I don't even know, bo, but did you see that dunk? Therefore,

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Speaker 1: because of that, you stand out? Ye would you have at, say,

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Speaker 1: Quon Barkley is is that category? Some big plays? He's

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Speaker 1: living off his college days. You know, he had a

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Speaker 1: he had a nice rookie season, but he's not going

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Speaker 1: to get a long term contract with the Giants. But

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Speaker 1: he you know, he was in commercials. You play in

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Speaker 1: New York. But he hasn't done anything. How hasn't been

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Speaker 1: able to stay Healthyre all right? Eight seven seven three

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Speaker 1: Watson is not going to be moved, but I don't

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Speaker 1: know what happens next. Does he go to practice tomorrow?

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Speaker 1: Does he want to play? He's clear to play. If

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Speaker 1: he does play, he's not going to be suspended. If

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Speaker 1: he's traded, he wouldn't be suspended. But what happens with

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson? We keep asking and we get no reason

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Speaker 1: why he's not playing. Nobody wants to say team decision,

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Speaker 1: league decision, quarterback decision, because it's all involved. I think

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Speaker 1: the league doesn't want him to play. He doesn't want

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Speaker 1: to play to hurt his trade value, and the Texans

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Speaker 1: don't want him to play either. But at some point,

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Speaker 1: like why not just wave your no trade if you

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Speaker 1: want to get out of the Texans And why do

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Speaker 1: you want to go to Miami? What's in Miami other

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Speaker 1: than the lifestyle of Miami. A team's not good. You

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Speaker 1: already gave up a first round draft pick to move

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Speaker 1: up in the draft. You do have the Niners draft pick,

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Speaker 1: but they haven't been good, been one of the bigger disappointments.

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Speaker 1: Now they're going to give up three first round draft

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Speaker 1: picks for you. Therefore, when you look around and go, hell,

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Speaker 1: this is this is just Houston with nicer weather here, Like,

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Speaker 1: what else are you gonna have? Not a good team.

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Speaker 1: But if he waived his no trade then maybe you

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Speaker 1: get then maybe he would be traded, But I still

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Speaker 1: find it highly unlikely. Yeah, it's the most fascinating story

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Speaker 1: of the year that we can't get an explanation of

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Speaker 1: not participating on Sundays. We sent notes to the team,

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Speaker 1: said whose decision? When they won't give it up? You know,

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Speaker 1: and you know the league can never ding a team

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Speaker 1: for tanking. People say, well, Deshaun Watson said he isn't

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Speaker 1: going to play. His agents hinted at that. But it's like,

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Speaker 1: if I'm a season ticket holder of the Houston Texans,

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Speaker 1: final hour. Okay, the first two hours was which who

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Speaker 1: I don't know, okay, question off the injury to Derrick Henry.

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Speaker 1: Who is the most valuable non running back offensive player

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Speaker 1: in the NFL? I gave you Henry, Tyreek Hill or

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey, Cooper Cup, Davante Adams. Is there anyone else

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Speaker 1: like Henry is the one injury that people think was

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Speaker 1: most devastating for a non quarterback. Yeah, because with Derrick Henry,

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Speaker 1: I think they're a super Bowl team or a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl caliber Do you downgrade them out of that conversation now, Yes,

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Speaker 1: even though Mike Rabel, the coach, says we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: the same philosophy run the football. Well, if you look

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Speaker 1: at Derrick Henry the last couple of weeks, he had

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Speaker 1: a couple of like one big run in each game,

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Speaker 1: but other than that, he was averaging two point eight

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Speaker 1: yards per caring. Julio Jones has to step up here now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they become a little bit more

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Speaker 1: pass happy, but it feels like that. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know if Julio Jones is healthy, if he's ever going

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Speaker 1: to be healthy, but I think that that's what has

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Speaker 1: to happen, is far. I would say Davante Adams on

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Speaker 1: that list, McLevin, Yeah, is there a defender you'd put on?

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Speaker 1: There is Miles Garrett worthy of that list where you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't want to lose compared to an offensive player. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but they're an average team. Yeah like that right now?

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Speaker 1: They're non threatening? Yea. How terrible are the forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers without George Kittle? That's a huge loss. Yeah, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I think second in the league. He's pretty good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's a little bit like dere Derek Kelley. They give

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Speaker 1: it to him every time. Yeah. Yeah. The Niners are

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Speaker 1: up there for disappointment because I thought maybe they could

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Speaker 1: go from worst to first. But and I don't put

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Speaker 1: all this on Jimmy Garoppolo. I mean, man, at some

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Speaker 1: point we gotta look at Kyle Shanahan and say, Kyle,

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Speaker 1: come on, let's go offensive genius, let's go. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know if we're gonna see that. Plus, you gave

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Speaker 1: up all those picks you got Trey Lance. He's not

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Speaker 1: ready right now. What are you gonna do when this

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Speaker 1: weekly UFC show with Daniel Cormier ESPN. It's called RC

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Speaker 1: and DC and their podcast Face First each Friday. He's

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Speaker 1: the former defensive back for the Steelers. He's Ryan Clark

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Speaker 1: who joins us on loan for the Mother's Ship. Should

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Speaker 1: that feel like a win to the Kansas City Chiefs

426
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Speaker 1: last night? Yeah? I mean when you win a football game,

427
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Speaker 1: you win a football game, and you know in this league, Dan,

428
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Speaker 1: it's hard to get ws, but you also have to

429
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Speaker 1: go in and fatigue it even harder with the win.

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Speaker 1: You know, Now you can be harder on Patrick Mahomes,

431
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Speaker 1: harder on Travis Kelsey. You can you know, speak to

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Speaker 1: Dan Sours and that defense about giving up the deep

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Speaker 1: ball without it necessarily feeling like you have to build

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Speaker 1: these guys up because you do have a w The

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs have a higher standard than other teams

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Speaker 1: in this league right now. You know, we expect certain

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Speaker 1: things from them, and I believe they expect certain things

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Speaker 1: from themselves. You know, I had colleagues speak game before

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Speaker 1: the season. Could the Kansas City Chiefs go seventeen and

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Speaker 1: oh yeah? And they're four and four? Yeah. But you

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Speaker 1: start to look at this, and now we're seeing defenses

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Speaker 1: basically say, all right, let's see if you can be

443
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Speaker 1: a conservative offense or you're not going to hit those

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Speaker 1: home runs. Why did it take so long for defenses

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Speaker 1: to kind of figure this out of not let Mahomes

446
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Speaker 1: throw those deep balls to Tyree Hill. Maybe it sounds

447
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Speaker 1: simpler than what it is. Ryan, You know what, it's

448
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Speaker 1: actually pretty simple. If you go back to last year,

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Speaker 1: Dan and I said this, and I spoke about it

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Speaker 1: on TV. Rockey Morris in Atlanta Falcons when they played

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs late in the season. I want

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Speaker 1: to say Kansas City scoring sixteen ch other team points

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Speaker 1: that game. It was in a win because Atlanta was terrible,

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Speaker 1: but they played a two high shell and didn't they'd

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Speaker 1: rotate a safety every now and then to Tyree killed

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Speaker 1: on those deep crossers that he'd get from trips formations

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Speaker 1: and it worked. And then if you watch the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl the Tampa Bay Buccaneers even though they were able

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Speaker 1: to rush the passer because they had so many injuries

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Speaker 1: on the front line of the Kansas City Chiefs. Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers did the same thing. And so what it

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Speaker 1: does is it makes Patrick Mahomes play slow as well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he famously admitted himself that he couldn't read

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Speaker 1: defenses till you know, halfway into the year he was

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Speaker 1: the starting quarterback. And I think by making him play slow,

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Speaker 1: by making them earn it, by forcing them to run,

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Speaker 1: you know, teams are making them conservative and honestly quite boring, Dan,

468
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Speaker 1: and you know that team likes to have fun, and

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Speaker 1: so they're gonna have to adjust and learn a new identity. Ken.

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes be a game manager, Oh, I believe so,

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Speaker 1: but he's obviously too talented to ever just to be that.

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Speaker 1: What Patrick Mahomes has to be, though, is more accurate, right,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes has to be more efficient. Patrick Mahomes has

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Speaker 1: to be a quicker decision maker, and he also a

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Speaker 1: little bit has to not be Patrick Mahomes. And what

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Speaker 1: I mean by that is he doesn't need the big

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Speaker 1: play all the time. You know, sometimes it's okay to

478
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Speaker 1: hit the smart play. Sometimes it's okay to get the

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Speaker 1: check down, and he's gonna have to fight against that himself.

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Speaker 1: You and your prime against Tyreek Hill or Travis Kelsey.

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Speaker 1: Who do you want? I would definitely, I would definitely

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Speaker 1: want Travis Kelsey because Tyrek Hill got some stuff I

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Speaker 1: don't got, you know, at least Travis Kelsey I can

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Speaker 1: stay close. Hey man, if it's Tyreek Hill and it's

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Speaker 1: just me, that's probably over before it starts. And that's

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Speaker 1: terrible coaching if that's what coach Lapolle would have decided

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Speaker 1: to do. What's that feeling like when you watch somebody

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Speaker 1: run by you and you know that you don't have

489
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Speaker 1: that makeup speed? Well, you know what it's. It's one

490
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Speaker 1: you're pissed off as yourself and you're upset with yourself

491
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Speaker 1: because you could have got You should have got back

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Speaker 1: a little deeper if you knew you couldn't run with them.

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Speaker 1: And it's honestly just sheer pink, right, you know that

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Speaker 1: everybody stands up in the stands, people start screaming, and

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Speaker 1: you're so scared that you can't look back for the ball,

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Speaker 1: and all you're doing is waiting for the inevitable, which

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Speaker 1: is a touchdown. It's it's one of those moments. It's

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Speaker 1: one of those moments where you realize, you know what,

499
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Speaker 1: some people just left the hospital with a little more

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Speaker 1: than others. We're talking to Ryan Clark, a former NFL

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Speaker 1: defensive back and of course works for the mother Ship.

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Speaker 1: Are the Saints okad quarterback? You know what? I think

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Speaker 1: they can be? You know, we haven't gotten to see

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Speaker 1: Trevor Simey and play quarterback in a long time. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: we had he had a great year at Denver and

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Speaker 1: many people thought that he could be the future starter

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Speaker 1: or franchise guy there, and we felt like Sean Payton

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Speaker 1: is the quarterback of Whisperer. I mean, to be honest,

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Speaker 1: Wasn't that why we were so excited about Jamis Because

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Speaker 1: we've seen Sean Payton be successful with tasting hit, We've

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Speaker 1: seen him be successful with Teddy Bridgewater. And so when

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Speaker 1: you look at what Trevor Simeon was able to do

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Speaker 1: yesterday coming i mean two days ago, coming into the

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Speaker 1: game against the Tampa Bay Bucceteers, I mean, he looked

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Speaker 1: extremely competent. This defense is a defense that can keep

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Speaker 1: you in games, so they can be okay moving forward,

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Speaker 1: or at least as okay as they were with Jamis Winston.

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Speaker 1: They still need to add a pass catcher, so you're

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Speaker 1: hoping Michael Thomas can come back healthy up the high art. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned this earlier that I would reach out and

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Speaker 1: see if Denver be willing to part with Teddy Bridgewater

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Speaker 1: since he's already had success there, knows the offense and

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Speaker 1: would probably be an upgrade over Trevor Simeon. Therefore, I

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Speaker 1: can keep Taysom Hill maybe at that all purpose position,

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Speaker 1: and you know, because you're lacking offensive weapons. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think moving Taysom Hill to the

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Speaker 1: quarterback position is and for this team. I even believe

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Speaker 1: if you can go back to last year, especially late

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Speaker 1: in his run. You know, you look at Philadelphia a

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Speaker 1: game four last year, he was kind of being fine.

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Speaker 1: Found out they were figuring out that he couldn't push

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Speaker 1: the football down the field, that he wouldn't get out

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Speaker 1: of the pocket and run as often as he would

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Speaker 1: or Wood when he was the Wildcat quarterback. And so

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Speaker 1: I believe keeping Tasom where he is at that h

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Speaker 1: back being able to play quarterback. It's the thing to do.

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Speaker 1: And if you can't get Teddy bridgewaterback, I believe that

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Speaker 1: something you do. The thing we don't know is what

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Speaker 1: they see in Trevor Simeon. Drew Brees kind of spoke

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Speaker 1: about it on the broadcast this week that he said,

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Speaker 1: Trevor Simeon is more than competent. It is more than

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Speaker 1: capable of being the starting quarterback of that team. And

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Speaker 1: I think Sean Payton, if he's seen a NUS, is

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Speaker 1: willing to do that. The Rams picking up Von Miller

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Speaker 1: means what it means that the Rams are all in

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Speaker 1: or winning the Super Bowl right now. Also it means

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Speaker 1: how in the hell or who in the hell is

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Speaker 1: manipulating the salary cap in Los Angeles. You know some

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Speaker 1: people like like some people can't keep one quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: you know they've been able to assemble you know, probably

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Speaker 1: this error error's best edge rusher, obviously, this error's best

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Speaker 1: de tackle and the best cornerback in the game. I

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Speaker 1: think think they decided that you know, they're going to

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Speaker 1: rush the passer, they're gonna get to the quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna score points offensively. I know Von Miller was

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Speaker 1: a little bit Chad yesterday and you can kind of

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Speaker 1: see the emotion when he spoke leaving Denver. But I'm

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Speaker 1: sure that all changed when he remembered that Aaron Donald

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Speaker 1: gets double and triple team and that he's gonna have

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Speaker 1: one on ones all day. Oh. I thought it was

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Speaker 1: a must cry situation for von Miller, But deep down

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Speaker 1: he's going on, hell yeah, hell yeah, I get out

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Speaker 1: of here. I'm going to LA. I got a chance

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Speaker 1: to play in the super Bowl. Before I let you go.

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Speaker 1: You faced Adrian Peterson. The Titans are coming, you know,

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Speaker 1: gonna reach out and I guess bring him in. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what he's got left. But what was it

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Speaker 1: like to face Adrian Peterson in this prime? Oh? It

569
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Speaker 1: was absolutely It was absolutely terrifying because he was a

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Speaker 1: guy that had first round talent, obviously, but he's top

571
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Speaker 1: ten pick seven picks of the draft. But he ran

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Speaker 1: like an undrafted free agent, you know, like he ran

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Speaker 1: like every every time he got the football that he

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Speaker 1: was fighting for his career and or his life. And

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Speaker 1: when you have to tackle a man who has no

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Speaker 1: regard for his own body, that's a that's a very

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Speaker 1: scary proposition. And you know, he's one of the best

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Speaker 1: to ever do it. He's obviously a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1: We don't know what he has now, but he was

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Speaker 1: the Derrick Henry of his time. He was the guy

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Speaker 1: that was, without a doubt, far ahead of any other

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Speaker 1: runner in the game. And you know, it's good to

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Speaker 1: see him back. I hope he gets another opportunity. But man,

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Speaker 1: I sure dude missed the old all day. Yeah, he

585
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Speaker 1: rushed for one hundred and forty yards against your Steeler

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Speaker 1: defense in twenty thirteen. Yeah, I remember that, Dad, Thanks

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Speaker 1: a lot. What's that like, though, when you know that

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Speaker 1: this guy it's gonna hurt, Like, this guy's running and

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Speaker 1: I gotta hit him. It's my job. He's got sixty

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Speaker 1: pounds on me. What's that like? I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: I think. I think it's one of those things that's

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Speaker 1: it's it's why you do it, you know, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's why we're kind of all screwed up in

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Speaker 1: the head. You know it. Actually it actually excited than

595
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Speaker 1: you because you want to see if you can win

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00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: who the better man is or who we obviously know

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Speaker 1: who the bigger man is, but who the better man is?

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Speaker 1: When you get your opportunity, and so for me that

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Speaker 1: was always the challenge in it. You know, can't you

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Speaker 1: step up and do some things that quote unquote normally

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Speaker 1: wouldn't attempt to do? And so that's why we love

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Speaker 1: the ball. Ryan, great to talk to you again. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: my best to the guys on Get Up. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: joining us. Okay, thank you so much. Man, you have

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Speaker 1: a great day. That's Ryan Clark. Yeah, I can't imagine

606
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Speaker 1: what's that. That's like, I know it's your job, but

607
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Speaker 1: when you see that running back of physical running back

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Speaker 1: like Jerome Battis, Derrick Henry and they come through the

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Speaker 1: line and you're there and you gotta try, But how

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Speaker 1: do you try without trying too hard where you know

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Speaker 1: it's gonna really really hurt? And I don't know. For

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Speaker 1: some reason, I remember talking to Jerome Bettis about that

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Speaker 1: and he said he could actually hear guys like Wins

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Speaker 1: a little bit like cry, just a little bit that

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Speaker 1: you know, when they were trying to tackle and you

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Speaker 1: just hear the guy go yeah, bully, and you know

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Speaker 1: if he hit him wrong, that you're going to be

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Speaker 1: a legend on the wrong side of it. Like that

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Speaker 1: guy Earl Campbell hit I mean he lowered his head

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Speaker 1: at that linebacker Robertson. We know his name based off that.

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Speaker 1: There was a play Leonard Fournett had in college. I

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Speaker 1: think it was against Auburn, and a thin defensive back

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Speaker 1: decided to go like up top on him, and he

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Speaker 1: carried him down the road, like like down the field,

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Speaker 1: like he's caring a child. Yeah, there are times when

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Speaker 1: you just see these dbs and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: they start to slow down a little bit, like they

628
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Speaker 1: can't quite catch up to these big, physical running backs,

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Speaker 1: even though they're probably faster than them, they somehow just

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Speaker 1: don't catch up to them. I got a new podcast,

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Speaker 1: Dan Patrick takes a gamble for featuring yours truly. Also

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Speaker 1: That's what he's known as Bad Larry Dylan or graphics Guy.

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Speaker 1: They give out their weekly NFL and college picks. New

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Speaker 1: episode comes out every Thursday afternoon, available dan patrick dot

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Speaker 1: com and Apple podcast right now. If you bet one

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars on every one of Bad Larry's picks, you'd

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Speaker 1: be up sixteen hundred, sixteen hundred dollars. He's up sixteen

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Speaker 1: units on the year Bad Larry Dylan is up two units.

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Speaker 1: You have a point. How does one get a nickname

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Speaker 1: bad something or other. He used to get mail delivered

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Speaker 1: to his dorm room in college it just said bad Larry,

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Speaker 1: and then the dorm at Providence College. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: And I've known Bad Larry for twenty years. And he says,

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Speaker 1: if you get off a certain exit in New Jersey,

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Speaker 1: you just say to the police officer, Hey, where's Bad

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Speaker 1: Larry live? And the police officer knows where Bad Larry lives. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So seedon, is there a counterpart to Bad Larry called

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Speaker 1: Good Larry. That's why they needed to separate the two,

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Speaker 1: Like that Bad Larry or Good Larry. You want Bad

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Speaker 1: Larry to come out, you just it's sort of like

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas. Like my nickname for him is Vegas. I

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Speaker 1: can take him for about two days and that's it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he's he's Bad Larry. He used to have a

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Speaker 1: full time job and then quit it fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 1: And all he does is gamble bless him. Yes, that's

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Speaker 1: that's his hard all he does. Yeah, like Vegas, do

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Speaker 1: you leave you have no money? He has it, he

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Speaker 1: keeps it. No, I try not to bet with him

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Speaker 1: because this is what he does. But he's really good

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Speaker 1: at it and he's very funny. But the podcast is

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. It's Dan Patrick takes a gamble

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Speaker 1: and I just I'm sort of the moderator there. I

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Speaker 1: try not to interject too much. I just let bad

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Speaker 1: Larry and Dylan the graphics guy, they do what they

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Speaker 1: need to do. Yes, time does the gambling juices ever

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Speaker 1: thought to flow a little bit? There gets your concerned

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Speaker 1: that you want to do something. No, there are times

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Speaker 1: when I'll just say, hey, I really like this game

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Speaker 1: and I don't know why, or I wouldn't bet on

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Speaker 1: that game, but I don't go. You know, maybe I

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Speaker 1: could throw a dime on this just because I never

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Speaker 1: enjoyed it. Even when you win, you don't enjoy it

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Speaker 1: as much. It hurts. It's more when you lose. It's

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Speaker 1: not that hey, the high of winning, it's when you

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Speaker 1: lose that christ I imagine the bad beats we had

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Speaker 1: this week, and like those are crushing. You're up thirty

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Speaker 1: eight to nothing on the Texans. The Giants covered last night,

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Speaker 1: like you're you just don't not good. Yes, I was

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Speaker 1: really hoping to pick up a new vice before the

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Speaker 1: end of the year. Man. Now, well, you know Ario

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Speaker 1: is now betting because he listens to Bad Larry and

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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna let's take a break and talk

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Speaker 1: about this final results, the full question, what we learned,

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Speaker 1: what's in store tomorrow? Back after this. Thanks for listening

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Speaker 1: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch

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Speaker 1: us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six

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Speaker 1: us live on the cock app. Hey, what's up everybody?

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Speaker 1: It's me three time pro bowler LeVar Rington and I

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Speaker 1: couldn't be more excited to announce a new podcast called

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Speaker 1: Up on Game. What is Up on Game? You asked,

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Speaker 1: Hushman's outa and Plexico Birds on the iHeartRadio app, Apple

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Speaker 1: Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts from. Uh, we

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Speaker 1: were just discussing National Sandwich Day tomorrow. Sandwich stand up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is a Poli special. Somehow we worked food into

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Speaker 1: now we have meet Friday, but somehow we always have

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Speaker 1: a hot dog that's in the show. It's a week

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Speaker 1: it feels like. Yeah, tomorrow is National Sandwich Day, not

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Speaker 1: one specific sandwich, but the entire concept of sandwiches and

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Speaker 1: named after like the Earl of Sandwich. Yes, he was

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Speaker 1: supposedly a gambler and when he and his friends would

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Speaker 1: play would gamble, there'd be trays of meats and cheeses,

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Speaker 1: and he would have one of the flunkeys go over

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Speaker 1: there and get him a plate, and he'd just put

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Speaker 1: it all together, and then the other people at the

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Speaker 1: tables would say, I'll have what sandwiches having, I'll have

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Speaker 1: what sandwiches having? It caught on in gents. A millionaire. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but why don't they call him by his name? He

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Speaker 1: was the Earl of Sandwich, Like, what isn't his name

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Speaker 1: like John or something? It should be called the ham

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Speaker 1: and cheese Montague. Yeah, his last name is Montague, not

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Speaker 1: a sandwich, ham and cheese sandwich. John Montague. He was

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Speaker 1: the fourth Earl of Sandwich, a long line of sandwiches.

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Speaker 1: What's his name, John John Montague? Oh okay, but hey,

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Speaker 1: I'll have what John's having. Then it would be we'd

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Speaker 1: be eating a John. It'd be cool if they were

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Speaker 1: called Montagues. Hey, give me two Montague to go. Yeah. Yes,

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Speaker 1: time didn't John Montague pitch for the San Francisco John

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Speaker 1: the Count of Montefuscous. Come on, todd On, I could

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Speaker 1: see it a mile away, todd Uh. This day in

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Speaker 1: sports history, Paulie Okay, nineteen thirty eight, here's the guy

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Speaker 1: who liked the sandwich. George Herman Babe Ruth had applied

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Speaker 1: for the job with the St. Louis Browns. He wanted

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn Dodgers for a while, and then Magic Johnson retired

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Speaker 1: from the NBA. This Day in nineteen ninety two, and

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Speaker 1: uh Eric Metcalf of the Chargers set an NFL record

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Speaker 1: when he ran two kicks back for a touchdown in

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Speaker 1: the same game. Wow, two kickoffs back, Um, that's it,

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Speaker 1: you see. Braves traded Hank Aaron to the Milwaukee Brewers

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Speaker 1: this day, Dave May, they got in return. Thank here

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Speaker 1: final results pull question club. Who's gonna win? The US

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Speaker 1: people are still going Chargers. Oh, by the way, PAULI

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Speaker 1: on this day the cub so beat the Indians. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: it's too obvious for me. Yeah, in Game seven win

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Speaker 1: the World Series after one hundred and eight years, special day?

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Speaker 1: Will the Cubs win another World Series in your lifetime?

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Speaker 1: I don't care, you don't. I made a deal with

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Speaker 1: a big guy for one. We'll usually make a deal

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Speaker 1: with the devil. Oh that's the other guy, the big guy.

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Speaker 1: If someone gave me something, Yeah, all right, anything else

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Speaker 1: needs to be mentioned here. Do you think you could

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Speaker 1: have betting as a hobby like anybody like Seton? Could

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Speaker 1: you do betting as a hobby? Uh? Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think so. But how much is just enough to be

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Speaker 1: a hobby when it becomes how much is it when

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Speaker 1: it comes to a problem. Well, I think Tiger said

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Speaker 1: it best, right. Whatever makes you nervous, Whatever makes you nervous,

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Speaker 1: that's when you're like, oh crap, let's say you lost

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Speaker 1: two fifty a week, two hundred and fifty dollars. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: two fifty can you still call that a hobby. Is

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Speaker 1: it a problem? Why does it become a problem. Usually

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Speaker 1: when you lose, it becomes a problem. It became a

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Speaker 1: problem for me and I was winning. Well, if I

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Speaker 1: ever come and asked to borrow money from you, I

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Speaker 1: might have an issue. I remember betting one time. I

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Speaker 1: line was seventeen and I just I didn't have the money.

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Speaker 1: If I lost the bet, that's when you know that

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Speaker 1: an issue. Yeah, that's an issue. Yeah. There's an old

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Speaker 1: bookies thing that they do is people who don't have

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Speaker 1: the money. Let's say you bet two hundred bucks last

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Speaker 1: night on the Chiefs. You lost, Well, you would bet

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Speaker 1: four hundred on the next game to try to get

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Speaker 1: back and over, and eventually a book he will cut

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Speaker 1: you off because you realize what you're doing. You're trying

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Speaker 1: to eventually get out of the hole without ever paying

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Speaker 1: your bets. Well, we had to square up with the

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Speaker 1: bookie each week, yes one or another, and then I

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Speaker 1: would always if I was winning, I'd just leave my

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Speaker 1: money with him. But if I lost, I had to

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Speaker 1: go to his house and hand him money. Yes time.

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Speaker 1: That's why I don't see how that could be a

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Speaker 1: legitimate hobby. If you win, you get all excited, then

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Speaker 1: all I'm gonna I could win again. If you lose

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Speaker 1: and you want to keep going to get your money

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Speaker 1: back and win. Either way, you either want to win

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Speaker 1: more or get back what you lost. Well, you you know,

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Speaker 1: whenever you'd have a bad Sunday and you'd load up

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Speaker 1: on Monday night and it was just it was bad. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you just you were like what am I doing? And

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Speaker 1: then you were truly gambling. You're like, I'm down four hundred,

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Speaker 1: Now I'm going to double it because I want to

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Speaker 1: get my money back. Then I'm down eight hundred. Then

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Speaker 1: I got to go pay a visit to my bookie

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Speaker 1: and hand him eight eight eighty or whatever it was,

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Speaker 1: because I lose the big as well. What did I

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Speaker 1: learn today? Todd Michelobt is freaking out about how close

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Speaker 1: more and more sharks are getting around Cape Card But

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Speaker 1: they could start out numbering people at some point. What yeah,

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Speaker 1: until they start walking on the beach. I'm not too worried.

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Speaker 1: What intelligence runs in the family, Innovation runs in the family.

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Speaker 1: Extraordinary runs in the family, not this family. Twenty one

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Speaker 1: of Mercedes spends range of SUVs. Every member is waiting

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Speaker 1: to impress. Mercedes spends the best or nothing. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: joining us. We'll do it again tomorrow, Dan Patrick show

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Speaker 1: oh one more item here. We got great matchups Week nine,

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Speaker 1: The Baker Versus Borough Battle, the Battle of Ohio, Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: the Titans, but they try to slow down the explosive

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