WEBVTT - The AT&T Story - Part One

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with text stuff from how

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<v Speaker 1>stuff Works dot com. Hay, then everyone, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff. I'm Johnson Strickland and I'm learn And today

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to look at a company that has been

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<v Speaker 1>around for a really long time, very influential, so long

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<v Speaker 1>in fact that we are probably going to do this

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<v Speaker 1>in three parts. It's gonna be yes, A T and T,

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<v Speaker 1>the American Telegraph and Telephone Company. Yep. Uh So A

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<v Speaker 1>T and T has a very long history, and it

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<v Speaker 1>first starts off with a couple of earlier companies. Now

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<v Speaker 1>this is not something that's, you know, unusual. We've had

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<v Speaker 1>other discussions about other companies that you know, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to start with, like a like Seed Company and parents

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<v Speaker 1>general General Electric. You know, you have to go back

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<v Speaker 1>way before General Electric to really talk about the company.

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<v Speaker 1>So in this case, we have to talk about a man,

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<v Speaker 1>a man who has been credited officially and through other

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<v Speaker 1>sources as the inventor of the telephone. Although, as we

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<v Speaker 1>all know, when it comes to inventions, it's a lot true,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very tricky to narrow it down to a single person,

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<v Speaker 1>and it takes a research society to make a technology

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<v Speaker 1>and turns out that there are a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>who are working on things all at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes it's just the person who gets the first.

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<v Speaker 1>In the case of Alexander Graham Bell, uh, not that

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't work very hard and make great contributions. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just that there were other people doing the same sort

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. Right. So in February, on February eighteen seventy six,

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<v Speaker 1>that is when he filed this first pattern yep to

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<v Speaker 1>a way to electronically transmit speech by quote causing electrical

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<v Speaker 1>undulations similar informed to the vibrations of the air accompanying

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<v Speaker 1>the said vocal or other sounds substantially as set forth

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<v Speaker 1>end quote. Now, Uh, it's interesting he had already written

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<v Speaker 1>the patent out earlier in January of that year, but

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<v Speaker 1>there was a peculiar all you're sort of legal loophole

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<v Speaker 1>that he had to leap through in order for him

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<v Speaker 1>to get this patent recognized in not just the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>but also the United Kingdom. See, the UK had a

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<v Speaker 1>rule that stated if you wanted to patent something in

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<v Speaker 1>the UK, it could not first have been patented anywhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>So Graham Bell writes up this patent. He wants to

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<v Speaker 1>get patented. He's ready to submit it, except that he

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<v Speaker 1>first has to get over to the UK. And uh, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>who don't know if you're familiar with us. In eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy six, there were very few options on how to

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<v Speaker 1>get from say the United States to England that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>involve a really long journey, right. It was basically swimming

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<v Speaker 1>a horse right across that action. Yep, you just hitch

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<v Speaker 1>a team of horses to a boat and say giddy up.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we didn't really research that part, so we

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<v Speaker 1>might be a little inaccurate. Make sure you tweet us

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<v Speaker 1>and let us know. But no, no, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because the telecommunications were not a thing at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>because he hadn't patented it yet, all right, So it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was taken a while, and so, as it

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<v Speaker 1>turned out, that very same day, another electrician began the

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<v Speaker 1>filing process. I don't think actually file what he what

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<v Speaker 1>he did. We're talking about Elisha Gray and Elishah Gray

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<v Speaker 1>or or we'll just call him Gray because first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I assume it's Elisha. I did not look up at

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<v Speaker 1>the pronunciation of his first name. But Mr Gray had

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<v Speaker 1>submitted a preliminary application for a similar apparatus. It was

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<v Speaker 1>also called a caveat. That was the technical name for

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<v Speaker 1>the preliminary application. He submitted a caveat for consideration for

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<v Speaker 1>a patent the very same day that Graham Bell posted

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<v Speaker 1>it filed his patent, or technically Bell's lawyer filed the

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<v Speaker 1>patn right here in the United States we're talking about, yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So Gray applied for a pattern with a very similar idea,

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<v Speaker 1>and the story goes and I don't know the truth

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<v Speaker 1>of this, And in fact, I have proposed to Lauren,

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<v Speaker 1>not romantically, I mean an episode title. I proposed to

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<v Speaker 1>her that we actually cover the content the topic of

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<v Speaker 1>Alexander Graham Bell and Elishah Gray, because the story about

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<v Speaker 1>who got that patent is really interesting and I think

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<v Speaker 1>could merit its own episode at any rate. Uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>story is that Bell's lawyer got a look at Gray's application,

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<v Speaker 1>which included an element that was not in Bell's work.

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<v Speaker 1>But then when the patent was filed, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>little scrawl in the margin that covered the same idea.

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<v Speaker 1>So the story is that Bell's lawyer or perhaps Bell himself.

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<v Speaker 1>It all depends upon the account you read lifted an

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<v Speaker 1>idea directly from Gray's work in order to essentially beat

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<v Speaker 1>him complete. So Bell's patent application goes in ahead of Gray's,

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<v Speaker 1>and so Bell is at least initially awarded the patent.

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<v Speaker 1>Although it was not uncontested. There was actually quite a

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<v Speaker 1>vigorous battle in the legal system of that was gone

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<v Speaker 1>a few years. And so moving ahead on in that

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<v Speaker 1>same year March tenth, eighteen seventy six. Remember he's already

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<v Speaker 1>filed the patent, but it was only on March tenth,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen seventy six that we had the famous message from

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<v Speaker 1>Alexander Graham Bell to his assistant Thomas Watson. Mr Watson

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<v Speaker 1>being in another room in the same building. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>and he heard it over this device what would what

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<v Speaker 1>would become the telephone, And the message, of course was

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Watson, come here, I want you. And it turns

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<v Speaker 1>out that uh, corey to the story, Alexander Graham Bell

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<v Speaker 1>had accidentally spilled some acid and needed Thomas Watson to

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<v Speaker 1>come over and help him clean it up before it

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<v Speaker 1>did any damage to the surroundings. So not only was

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<v Speaker 1>March tenth, eighteen seventy six the first phone call, it

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<v Speaker 1>was the first emergency phone call. So, yeah, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>fun little little side note about this, and we are

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<v Speaker 1>leading up to the company, but we have to lay

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<v Speaker 1>this groundwork. Yeah, and I find all of this pretty

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating overall. So, so on October eighth of that year,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen seventy six, they had the first two way telephone

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<v Speaker 1>call between Watson and Bell. Now, before it was a

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<v Speaker 1>one way thing. You could have a transmitter and receiver essentially.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there was one on either side. You could actually

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<v Speaker 1>have this communication. And this is where Bell introduced his

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<v Speaker 1>idea of what the perfect telephone salutation was, Hoy hoy, hoy,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what Mr Burns says when he picks up

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<v Speaker 1>the phone on on The Simpsons. That's delightful. Yeah, Alexander

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<v Speaker 1>Gham Bell and everyone involved in phone companies hated the

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<v Speaker 1>word hello. They did, and we've got some notes about

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<v Speaker 1>that in just a little bit. There was there was

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<v Speaker 1>a very serious and an intense contention about this. It

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<v Speaker 1>was important with a capital I. But so in eight

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<v Speaker 1>Bell was getting financial backing from the fathers of two

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<v Speaker 1>of his students at Boston University, Thomas Sanders and Um

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<v Speaker 1>Gardner Hubbard, and wound up forming the Bell Telephone company right.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, that first he tried to sell the telephone

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<v Speaker 1>patents to a rival company called Western Union. You may

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<v Speaker 1>have heard of that company. At the time, it was

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<v Speaker 1>the largest corporation in the world. And he offered to

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<v Speaker 1>sell it to them for the princely sum of one

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<v Speaker 1>d thousand dollars and Western Union told him to take

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<v Speaker 1>a long walk off a short pier. Yeah, they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>at that particular point in time understand what this whole

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<v Speaker 1>telephone thing was about. They were like, that's a toy.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't get it right. If you wanted to send

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<v Speaker 1>a message to someone, why would you go through all

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<v Speaker 1>this bother when you could just telegraph it to them.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got perfectly good telegraph lines and swimming horses, why

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<v Speaker 1>exactly so, So they they poo pooed the idea, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's when Bell decided to go the other route and

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<v Speaker 1>form this company. And with that financial backing that Lauren

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<v Speaker 1>talked about, the Bell Telephone Company came into being um

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<v Speaker 1>and Uh. At first, it was a pretty modest affair

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<v Speaker 1>in the early days. They were seven seventy eight telephones

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<v Speaker 1>in existence period, and the company had a grand total

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<v Speaker 1>of one employee, and that one employee was Thomas Watson,

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<v Speaker 1>the former assistant to Alexander Graham Bell, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>He was paid the salary of three dollars per day

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<v Speaker 1>and also had one tenth interest in the company, which,

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<v Speaker 1>as it turns out, would probably be worth a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more than his salary. Yeah. So Bell goes ahead

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<v Speaker 1>with his company. Uh. Meanwhile, Gray, who had done some

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<v Speaker 1>work for Western Union and had founded a company called

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<v Speaker 1>Western Electric that was acquired by Western Union, began to

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<v Speaker 1>compete against Bell, and uh it got pretty nasty. Bell

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<v Speaker 1>started to look into how he wanted to well, really

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<v Speaker 1>the company was looking into how they wanted to form

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<v Speaker 1>the business, and they took a que off the Morse

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<v Speaker 1>Company Telegraph Company and went with a franchise model. The

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<v Speaker 1>idea being that they would they would license out technology

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<v Speaker 1>and telephones and things of that nature to companies that

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to oversee the administrative efforts of handling this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of local, regionalized phone system. And so Bell would end

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<v Speaker 1>up getting a company. Bell would end up getting a

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<v Speaker 1>portion of that revenue, uh, in return for the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they're licensing the technology to this other company. All right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Because until Bell's patents would expire, the company was the

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<v Speaker 1>exclusive manufacturer and provider of telephones. Um those those patents

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<v Speaker 1>would expire in and that was a date that everyone

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<v Speaker 1>in Bell was very, very anxious about. They were cognizant

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<v Speaker 1>of it, they were anxious about it. There were other

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<v Speaker 1>companies that did attempt to spring up despite this um

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<v Speaker 1>this legal monopoly that the Bell system had because of

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<v Speaker 1>the patents. Uh. But we'll talk about that in a

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<v Speaker 1>second before we get too far into this, because there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to talk about. Let's take a quick break

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<v Speaker 1>So we're now up to eighteen seventy eight. Now. In

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<v Speaker 1>eight seventy eight, that's when we saw the first regional

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<v Speaker 1>telephone company actually launched. Not this was one operated by

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<v Speaker 1>Bell Telephone. Right. It was a franchise called New Haven

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<v Speaker 1>District Telephone Company and UH in New Haven, Connecticut, and

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<v Speaker 1>Bell and Western Union began to compete even more viciously.

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<v Speaker 1>They were both launching franchises across the United States. Western

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<v Speaker 1>Union began to use leverage by saying that they would

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<v Speaker 1>not install any telegraph lines in any locations that were

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<v Speaker 1>using Bell Systems. So any region that relied heavily upon

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<v Speaker 1>telegraph services wouldn't do business with Bell because they were

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<v Speaker 1>afraid that they did. They would never have any improvements

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<v Speaker 1>or repair or maintenance of the telegraph systems or even

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<v Speaker 1>operation of the telegraph system. So it's kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>holding Bell Systems hostage thing, you don't you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't uh, you don't get to play in this

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<v Speaker 1>game because I own this game. Um. Now. Western Union's

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<v Speaker 1>telephones were based on the work of two inventors, one

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<v Speaker 1>of them Elisha Gray and the other Thomas Edison. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so some big names here. And on September twelve, that's

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<v Speaker 1>when Bell Telephone Company sued Western Union, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>big story because Bell had a small fortune at his disposal.

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<v Speaker 1>Western Union was the largest corporation in the world at

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<v Speaker 1>that time. It worth more than forty one million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>and had the backing of a certain powerful family in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, the Vanderbilts. And so it was a

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<v Speaker 1>big deal that Bell would go up against this corporate giant.

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<v Speaker 1>And that same year Gardner Hubbard, one of those financiers

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<v Speaker 1>who backed the Bell system in the very early days,

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<v Speaker 1>hired on a man named Theodore Newton Vale to act

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<v Speaker 1>as general manager slash president of Bell Telephone. Right. Veil

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<v Speaker 1>had previously worked for the US Postal Service and and

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<v Speaker 1>he was very key in orchestrating this legal battle. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's also interesting because Veil will play another important role

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<v Speaker 1>a bit further down the line. Veil had kind of

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<v Speaker 1>on again off again relationship with Bell Telephone. Not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>all by choice, no, no, but but he did help

0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.839
<v Speaker 1>shape the company and absolutely and even as early as

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<v Speaker 1>this he had this vision of building a national long

0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:46.600
<v Speaker 1>distance telephone network UM and doing it before Bell's patents

0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:51.240
<v Speaker 1>ran out, so which was hugely ambitious, incredibly ambitious, a

0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:53.640
<v Speaker 1>little too ambitious, it may turn out to be. In

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen eighty, Alexander Graham Bell decided to resign from the

0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Bell Telephone Board of Directors UM, and the next year one,

0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Thomas Watson would also resign. So at this point the

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<v Speaker 1>two inventors who gave the company the very basic invention

0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.880
<v Speaker 1>that it was all centered around had left the board

0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:15.880
<v Speaker 1>of directors at that time, I believe was putting a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of pressure on. They didn't really see the immediate

0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:24.920
<v Speaker 1>monetary purpose of this whole nationwide network thing, and so

0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:28.800
<v Speaker 1>they were they were really getting down people's throats about like,

0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:30.480
<v Speaker 1>we kind of want to make money, we kind of

0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:32.360
<v Speaker 1>put some money in, we kind of want a little

0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.320
<v Speaker 1>bit back, and this digging your heels in. Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a whole lot of us giving you money and

0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:39.240
<v Speaker 1>not a whole lot of us getting anything back. Right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there were there were many years when this company was

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<v Speaker 1>operating in debt because they were setting this stuff up. Also,

0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:51.280
<v Speaker 1>interesting little side note, Thomas Watson had a second career

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<v Speaker 1>after his work with Telephone Systems. He would begin a

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<v Speaker 1>career as a ship builder. He built ships loood for him. Yeah,

0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:01.520
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of interesting. I just thought it was neat

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<v Speaker 1>So eight two this is about when Western Union and

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<v Speaker 1>Bell Systems settle this lawsuit that's this ongoing dispute that

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<v Speaker 1>had been pretty much taking up all their time over

0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:18.880
<v Speaker 1>the last couple of years, um because the patent infringement

0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:22.920
<v Speaker 1>lawsuits were something that was just nasty on all parts. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>in that settlement, Western Union ended up selling its telephone

0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:28.480
<v Speaker 1>network to Bell, so that was a network that was

0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:33.400
<v Speaker 1>what there was, Like, that's that's significant. So fifty five

0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:36.760
<v Speaker 1>more cities go to Bell Systems. Bell in return promised

0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Western Union of its telephone rental revenue. So Bell Telephone

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<v Speaker 1>also acquired from Western Union the company Western Electric that

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<v Speaker 1>was the one that was founded by Elishah Gray, and

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<v Speaker 1>that became a T and T s manufacturing division. So

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<v Speaker 1>here's just a little information about how the phone system

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<v Speaker 1>used to work in the United States. It used to

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<v Speaker 1>be that you would go to a store to get

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<v Speaker 1>a phone, and you leased it. You didn't own that phone,

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<v Speaker 1>so you actually that phone remained the property of the

0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:09.480
<v Speaker 1>parent company, which at this time is Bell Systems and

0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:12.480
<v Speaker 1>shortly will become a T and T. And so you

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<v Speaker 1>would pay a leasing fee, and in turn, the company

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<v Speaker 1>that you got it from was likely not directly a

0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:21.200
<v Speaker 1>T and T. It was probably some regional office that

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<v Speaker 1>also was leasing that same phone from a T and T.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly at this point it was Bell systems. But yeah,

0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.480
<v Speaker 1>so Bell Systems leases out a phone to a regional office,

0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:34.920
<v Speaker 1>the regional office leases the phone out to the customer,

0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:38.080
<v Speaker 1>So you didn't you never actually owned that phone, which

0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:40.840
<v Speaker 1>I think some people might find a little unusual today

0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:43.600
<v Speaker 1>because they think, well, I bought this piece of electrical

0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you turn off the service. Fine, I understand that,

0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:50.120
<v Speaker 1>but that's my phone. Um yeah not back then, Nope,

0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:54.200
<v Speaker 1>you were just renting it. Really, So Western Union gets

0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:57.560
<v Speaker 1>out of the way. So Bell system effectively becomes a monopoly.

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<v Speaker 1>And according to research, terms of telephone network, yeah, they're

0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:06.119
<v Speaker 1>they're pretty much. There are other competing telephone networks, but

0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:09.119
<v Speaker 1>they're all they're all technically illegal at this time because

0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:13.440
<v Speaker 1>this is still exactly so. According to researcher John Brooks,

0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Bell Telephone would have a level more than six hundred

0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:21.439
<v Speaker 1>patent infringement lawsuits against other companies over the course of

0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:24.360
<v Speaker 1>a decade, and they won every single one of them.

0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:27.760
<v Speaker 1>Because anytime a company would come up, like there were

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<v Speaker 1>companies that were trying to create telephone systems in rural

0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:35.040
<v Speaker 1>areas that Bell just had not reach, and so they

0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.880
<v Speaker 1>wanted to give people the benefit of this technology. Bell

0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.719
<v Speaker 1>did not have either the ability or interest to go

0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:42.760
<v Speaker 1>into that market. So they would go ahead and do

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<v Speaker 1>it themselves, and then Bell would soothe them because they're

0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:47.680
<v Speaker 1>you can't do that. We have the the exclusivity rights

0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:51.159
<v Speaker 1>to this technology, um and you know, and there's like,

0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:53.560
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get there and just give us time. Meanwhile,

0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.040
<v Speaker 1>everyone's like, but I wanted to call my buddy. There's

0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:59.280
<v Speaker 1>no nothing to call them on other than sticking ahead

0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:02.080
<v Speaker 1>out the window and shot, hey, Jeb, so I don't

0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:07.520
<v Speaker 1>know why his name is Jeb short Jebediah. Five. That

0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:09.520
<v Speaker 1>is when a T and T is officially formed as

0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:13.560
<v Speaker 1>a subsidiary of Bell. Yeah, and this is the the

0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:19.160
<v Speaker 1>formal implementation of VAL's vision of creating a long distance network.

0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:22.120
<v Speaker 1>That's the main purpose of a T and T. So

0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:25.439
<v Speaker 1>a T and T is all about building out a

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<v Speaker 1>long distance network so that people can call each other

0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:32.600
<v Speaker 1>across states and across countries. Right by the end of

0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:36.320
<v Speaker 1>eighty five, the company would establish the very first long

0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:39.680
<v Speaker 1>distance connection between New York and Philadelphia. It was capable

0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:42.720
<v Speaker 1>of hand handling a huge one call at a time,

0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:46.600
<v Speaker 1>one call capacity. So I can just imagine the circuits

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<v Speaker 1>being busy over and over and thinking they need to

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<v Speaker 1>just wrap this up. Those people in Philly are chatter boxes.

0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:55.719
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, So that was but it was really more

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<v Speaker 1>of a proof of concept obviously at that point, not

0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:00.080
<v Speaker 1>necessarily something that was going to be terribly proud. Go

0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:02.480
<v Speaker 1>we're talking a little bit about how expensive these phone

0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:06.920
<v Speaker 1>calls were too, got a little little dear. Um. So

0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:11.520
<v Speaker 1>that same year was when the state of Indiana passed

0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:15.040
<v Speaker 1>a law restricting the price of telephone rental fees. So

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<v Speaker 1>remember I was saying, you rent your telephone, both the

0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:20.560
<v Speaker 1>regional offices do it and then the customers do it.

0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:24.440
<v Speaker 1>But because Bell was the only game in town, they

0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:27.359
<v Speaker 1>could pretty much dictate what those rental prices were gonna be.

0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:31.119
<v Speaker 1>Uh this this lawsuit said well you need to cut

0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:35.480
<v Speaker 1>back on those costs. So um Bell's response, the company's

0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:38.080
<v Speaker 1>response was saying, well, you know, we have to have

0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:42.560
<v Speaker 1>these prices because the service is expensive to to build out,

0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:47.320
<v Speaker 1>to administer, to maintain. We cannot operate at a lower cost.

0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:50.560
<v Speaker 1>We if we were to lower these this amount of money,

0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:53.240
<v Speaker 1>we would not make a profit, we would lose money

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<v Speaker 1>on the deal. We can't do it. So your phones

0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:59.359
<v Speaker 1>are off, and they shut off the phones in Indiana. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no more calls. Yeah, sorry, and um, it would be

0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:09.520
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years before they would come when service

0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:14.560
<v Speaker 1>was restored for one corporation to have. Yeah. Some people

0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:16.760
<v Speaker 1>said the A. T and T statement was that this

0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:19.800
<v Speaker 1>was an example of quote the futility of public action

0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:23.000
<v Speaker 1>and ignorance end quote, saying that you know, you guys

0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:24.919
<v Speaker 1>were all upset and you told us that we had

0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:27.000
<v Speaker 1>to do this thing, but you didn't understand that we

0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:29.800
<v Speaker 1>were doing it because that's financially what we have to do.

0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:32.359
<v Speaker 1>Other people said, no, A. T and T held the

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<v Speaker 1>state hostage by saying you don't get phone calls until

0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:40.920
<v Speaker 1>you play ball, which that's that's that's pretty awful. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well with without actually looking at the financial books and

0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:47.240
<v Speaker 1>knowing that the company did operate in debt for a while,

0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:50.560
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to say, although you know at the time

0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:53.440
<v Speaker 1>they were positing themselves as sort of a public service,

0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:56.840
<v Speaker 1>that's right, akin to something like the post office, which

0:20:56.840 --> 0:21:01.080
<v Speaker 1>would become much more their their message in a few years.

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<v Speaker 1>So seven that was the first year that Theodore Vale

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<v Speaker 1>resigned as president. Yep, that that was directly I think

0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:13.120
<v Speaker 1>in due to his frustration with the board was saying earlier.

0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:16.360
<v Speaker 1>And there was a dispute with some Boston financial backers

0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:19.359
<v Speaker 1>as well, and all of that kind of fed into

0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:23.320
<v Speaker 1>VAL's resignation. He just decided that that was not where

0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:27.320
<v Speaker 1>he needed to be. So, uh that he leaves. Don't worry,

0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:31.000
<v Speaker 1>He's part of the story is not over yet without him. Meanwhile,

0:21:31.040 --> 0:21:34.679
<v Speaker 1>in eighteen eighty nine, the Bell system would adopt the

0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:39.760
<v Speaker 1>first official Bell logo. Yeah what it looked like a bell? Yeah, okay,

0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:43.720
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense alright. That was when the first long

0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:46.679
<v Speaker 1>distance connection was established between New York and Chicago. And

0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:49.480
<v Speaker 1>this was the real display of long distance. You know,

0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:52.800
<v Speaker 1>New York to Philadelphia was impressive. New York to Chicago

0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:57.800
<v Speaker 1>was a much greater distance. So this was marked by

0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:00.600
<v Speaker 1>a ceremonial phone call. Grand Bell would make that one

0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:03.199
<v Speaker 1>as well. Yep, Alexander Graham Bell's on the call. Uh,

0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:06.119
<v Speaker 1>I did not see who he was calling. Maybe it

0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:07.960
<v Speaker 1>was just you know, prank calls. And he was making

0:22:07.960 --> 0:22:10.080
<v Speaker 1>prank calls to Chicago and ordering pizza and then saying

0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:12.200
<v Speaker 1>our pizza is better than your pizza. I can only hope,

0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I would really hope. So, I mean you think prank

0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:18.360
<v Speaker 1>called pizza? It fits. So the after all, the very

0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:20.120
<v Speaker 1>first call on a mobile phone was a prank call.

0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:23.679
<v Speaker 1>But the capacity of this line was just like the

0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:27.359
<v Speaker 1>one from Philadelphia, one at a time, and it cost

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<v Speaker 1>nine dollars for the first five minutes, which you you

0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:33.000
<v Speaker 1>did the math on us inflation, Yeah, I used in

0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:36.840
<v Speaker 1>the inflation calculator. Now, normally I would use the Bureau

0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:40.800
<v Speaker 1>of Labor Statistics calculator, which factors in the consumer price index,

0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:44.439
<v Speaker 1>but that only goes back to so I used the

0:22:44.480 --> 0:22:48.320
<v Speaker 1>inflation calculator. I honestly don't know where they pulled their

0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:52.160
<v Speaker 1>their figures from. So, but based upon the inflation calculator,

0:22:52.280 --> 0:22:56.160
<v Speaker 1>that nine dollars would translate into sixty dollars today. So

0:22:56.240 --> 0:22:59.520
<v Speaker 1>sixty dollars for five minutes of a phone call. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you think your cell phone bill is high, yeah,

0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:05.040
<v Speaker 1>that's no talk about how I'm almost all the minutes. Well,

0:23:05.320 --> 0:23:07.920
<v Speaker 1>those minutes are precious. Look how much they cost back

0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:13.240
<v Speaker 1>in the eighties. Uh. So that was when those patents

0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:15.840
<v Speaker 1>that we were talking about expired. Yeah, and uh the

0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:20.320
<v Speaker 1>day it happened, the columns at Bell System trembled and

0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:23.840
<v Speaker 1>there was a great whaling. Over the next ten years,

0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:27.800
<v Speaker 1>six thousand independent telephone companies would open across the United States. Now,

0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:30.359
<v Speaker 1>these were legal at this point because the patents no

0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:34.280
<v Speaker 1>longer gained exclusivity rights to Bell Systems. So you had

0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:37.520
<v Speaker 1>all these companies that suddenly could operate legally within the

0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:41.560
<v Speaker 1>United States and offer a competing product or service. Rather,

0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:44.960
<v Speaker 1>there are some problems here. So let's say, Lauren, that

0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:47.080
<v Speaker 1>you and I both live in the same city back

0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:51.000
<v Speaker 1>in eighteen four and it's a small city that Bell

0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:54.200
<v Speaker 1>system really hasn't gotten into. But there's this regional company

0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:57.360
<v Speaker 1>that has introduced a telephone system, and a second regional

0:23:57.359 --> 0:24:01.200
<v Speaker 1>company that competes and also sets up a telephone system.

0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:03.560
<v Speaker 1>You become a customer of one of those companies. I

0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:06.240
<v Speaker 1>become the customer of the other company. And then one

0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:09.040
<v Speaker 1>night you realize, Hey, I left my notes at work.

0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I need you to grab them and bring them home. Uh,

0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:14.520
<v Speaker 1>And you know, can you swing by my place? And

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:16.280
<v Speaker 1>you try and call me, but you can't because you're

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:17.800
<v Speaker 1>on one system and I'm on the other, and there's

0:24:17.800 --> 0:24:21.399
<v Speaker 1>no interconnectivity. Right, And this was partially because you know,

0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:24.560
<v Speaker 1>those those lines might literally not have been connected, and

0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:27.560
<v Speaker 1>even if they were, you're talking to the way that

0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:29.600
<v Speaker 1>telephones worked at the time, is is you would you

0:24:29.640 --> 0:24:31.560
<v Speaker 1>would pick it up and you would get an operator,

0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:33.960
<v Speaker 1>and you tell the operator where you want your call

0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:37.280
<v Speaker 1>to go. The operator would manually switch you through, manually

0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:40.280
<v Speaker 1>look at a system of switches and figure out the

0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:43.080
<v Speaker 1>route to get your call to that house or that

0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:45.960
<v Speaker 1>other phone, right or as long as the line wasn't engaged,

0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:48.359
<v Speaker 1>they could try the line, but if it's not on

0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:51.440
<v Speaker 1>their system, then you couldn't call them. So so there

0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:54.080
<v Speaker 1>there were speaking of these these numbers of customers, there

0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:58.440
<v Speaker 1>were some seven hundred thousand customers using these other services

0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 1>and about a million using Bell. Yeah. So so when

0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:06.560
<v Speaker 1>you think about that six thousand companies and seven thousand

0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:09.119
<v Speaker 1>customers and then one company in a million customers, that

0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:14.040
<v Speaker 1>shows you that they were still they were still effectively

0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:17.359
<v Speaker 1>a monopoly because there was no other single company that

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:20.919
<v Speaker 1>could compete with them. So while they weren't, by the

0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:23.240
<v Speaker 1>letter of the law, a true monopoly as in the

0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:26.119
<v Speaker 1>only game in town, effectively that's what they were. And

0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:29.760
<v Speaker 1>one of the things that happened in eight was that, uh, well,

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:33.680
<v Speaker 1>the Pacific Telephone and Telegraph Company, which later became Pacific Telesis,

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:37.720
<v Speaker 1>opened the first exchange operated entirely in a language other

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:41.119
<v Speaker 1>than English within the United States, operated in Chinatown in

0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:43.119
<v Speaker 1>San Francisco, and it was all in Chinese. All the

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:47.200
<v Speaker 1>customers spoke Chinese, and all the operators spoke Chinese. Eight

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 1>that's when A. D n T acquired its former rival

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Western Union. And I sure probably some people said ha

0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 1>ha when it happened. So remember Western Union was the

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:03.479
<v Speaker 1>company that had they purchased those patents from Bell, this

0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:05.399
<v Speaker 1>would be a totally different story. There would not have

0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:09.000
<v Speaker 1>been an A T and T. But instead they had

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:12.440
<v Speaker 1>decided to fight against Bell and Bell Systems, And now

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:15.200
<v Speaker 1>they became a property of A T and T itself.

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Um So A T and T acquires the assets of

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:22.639
<v Speaker 1>the American Bell Telephone Company, which means that A. T

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:25.920
<v Speaker 1>and T, the subsidiary, now becomes the parent company. Yeah,

0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:29.080
<v Speaker 1>so A T and T was now the big company.

0:26:29.160 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 1>The student has become the teacher. So eight is when

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:35.439
<v Speaker 1>we can say the company of A. T and T

0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:38.360
<v Speaker 1>really came into being. It was no longer a subsidiary

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 1>or division. It was it was in charge. So by

0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:45.520
<v Speaker 1>this time the company's size was pretty big. You know.

0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:47.919
<v Speaker 1>Keep in mind when it was founded there was one employee.

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Now there were a million, three two thousand phones in

0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:56.159
<v Speaker 1>the system and more than forty five thousand employees, And

0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>that same year, researchers independently developed a theory about something

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 1>called loading coils. The loading coils are a part of

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:08.239
<v Speaker 1>technology that was very important in the early days of

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 1>the telephone system. It actually would reduce the rate at

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:13.919
<v Speaker 1>which a traveling telephone signal would weaken, which made it

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:16.879
<v Speaker 1>possible to build longer phone lines and build out this

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 1>long distance network. Right that that loss of signal is

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 1>called attenuation, and it right, it's it's a loss of

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:26.280
<v Speaker 1>intensity of a signal as it travels through any medium, right. Yeah,

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:29.639
<v Speaker 1>So this was a huge help in getting around just

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 1>a practical problem that existed with the technology. So several

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:36.920
<v Speaker 1>other advancements would be made later on. Yeah, and we'll

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 1>talk a lot about those before we do. Let's take

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 1>another quick break to thank our sponsor. Alright, So back

0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:46.639
<v Speaker 1>to a T and T. In nineteen o four, we

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:49.720
<v Speaker 1>start seeing some states begin to pass laws requiring the

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:53.360
<v Speaker 1>interconnection between phone networks. And it's still a state by

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 1>state case basis at this point, so it's not like, um,

0:27:56.880 --> 0:28:00.119
<v Speaker 1>it's not like this is a national movement yet, but

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:04.120
<v Speaker 1>it's starting to kind of develop into that. And remember

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:07.439
<v Speaker 1>A T and T. There, they were taking a pretty

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 1>nasty competitive approach. Nasty might be the wrong word, how

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 1>about enthusiastic. Yeah, so, but technically this is what everyone

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 1>had to do. Everyone was building out their networks and

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 1>not connecting with other networks. A T and T had

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 1>the most power here because they had the largest number

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 1>of customers among any single telephone company. So by not

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:36.160
<v Speaker 1>playing ball by not allowing connectivity with these other networks.

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 1>If you know that A T and T is the

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 1>big telephone company and that the majority of the people

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 1>you would want to get in touch with are going

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 1>to be connected to that company, that's the company you

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 1>go with, even if there's a regional company that ends

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 1>up having a better deal for you financially. If no

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>one you know is on that service, then you can't

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 1>get a call from another service, right. So just imagine

0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 1>for you cell phone users out there that if you're

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 1>an A T and T customer, you would be unable

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 1>to call anyone using Verizon, Sprint, or T Mobile, And

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:08.240
<v Speaker 1>the same would be true for each of those companies.

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 1>No one would be able to call anyone cross company.

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Then you see how how this becomes a problem. But

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 1>this is still in the early days. So we get

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 1>to nineteen o six, right, Yeah, it was around that

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 1>time that the head of the Chicago Bell Exchange instituted

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 1>coin operated telephones to prevent people from freeloading in in shops,

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, drug stores or something might have a telephone

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 1>in them, and since it was still relatively expensive to

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:35.080
<v Speaker 1>place calls, this was a way they you know, it

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 1>was a nickel perk, Hall and um. By by nineteen

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 1>o six there were nearly forty thod coin operated telephones

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>in Chicago. And now you don't see them hardly anywhere. Yeah.

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I love seeing them in movies these days. Once in

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 1>a while, like maybe an airport or something, you might

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 1>see some, but otherwise they're you know, they used to

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:57.480
<v Speaker 1>be everywhere. Heck, I remember where they were everywhere? Oh yeah, yeah,

0:29:57.520 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 1>I remember that too. I'm not that young. No. Seven

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:04.080
<v Speaker 1>was big. That is the year that Theodore veil Um

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 1>became president of A. T and T again again, well,

0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 1>he had technically been president of Bell I think, yeah,

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:12.360
<v Speaker 1>that's true. He was. He was president of Bell, and

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 1>now he's president president of A T and So he

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:18.440
<v Speaker 1>was brought back on when the JP Morgan group had

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 1>gained a majority control of A T and T and said,

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, this Veil guy, we like what he has

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 1>to say. We're going to put him back on the

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:28.640
<v Speaker 1>top of the company. And J P. JP Morgan specially

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 1>like because he was still alive at the time, and

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 1>he specifically I'm possibly even called up Veil. I think

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Veil was in South America at the time doing stuff

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:38.719
<v Speaker 1>and you know, had been retired, and he convinced him

0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 1>to come out of retirement. Yep, and Veil again started

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 1>to really laid down the vision of A T and

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 1>T and started an ad campaign in nineteen o eight,

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and Veil would really be responsible yet again for setting

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 1>the vision of A T and T. He's hat up

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 1>a challenge to have a line, a single line stretching

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:01.560
<v Speaker 1>from New York to Standford, Cisco in the next seven years.

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:05.320
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty again ambitious, It's very ambitious considering the technology

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 1>at the time. So night he starts to kind of

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 1>spearhead and ad campaign that set the A T and

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 1>T corporate policy. Yeah that this was this was the

0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:16.240
<v Speaker 1>other really big important part of his vision and and

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 1>it was connected to this a single line concept. Yeah,

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:24.080
<v Speaker 1>it was one policy, one system, universal service. The idea

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>here being that in order to guarantee that you could

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>that every person in America would have access to telephones,

0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:35.479
<v Speaker 1>you had to essentially take this stance of we're the

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 1>only game in town, because if there's none of this

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>interconnectivity through different companies, that's the only option you have

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:44.000
<v Speaker 1>is you have to have someone come out and become

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 1>the dominant player so that everyone has access to the

0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 1>phone and can call anyone else. He also Vail had

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 1>this very kind of pro monopoly stance of competition is

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 1>what turns consumers away from brands. It's this this kind

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 1>of cutthroat thing that happens is bad publicity for everyone.

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 1>So if you know, just it's kind of that Doctor

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Horrible sort of thing, like where the world is terrible

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 1>place and I just need to rule it. Yeah, now,

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 1>it's exactly that kind of approach. In fact, I had

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:18.080
<v Speaker 1>read several things about how the the telegraph companies had

0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 1>entered an era of competition and they all decided they

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 1>did not like that very much, And so the telephone

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 1>company was following the same route. They weren't so crazy

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 1>about competition. And to be fair, this is a case

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 1>where competition wasn't really helpful to the consumer simply because

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 1>of that lack of interconnectivity. It wasn't that you know,

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 1>the problem with is that without the competition, you don't

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 1>have the benefit of the consumer being able to choose

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 1>the right kind of plan or price or whatever. But

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 1>on the downside is you know, if there's no interconnectivity,

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 1>then it really gets you stuck. Yeah. And in these

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 1>early days, that was the bigger issue. So, um nt

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 1>some important, very important thing in the history of the

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 1>phone industry happen. Well, phones were still new enough that

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:06.720
<v Speaker 1>we didn't really have phone etiquette. Yeah, And so Bell

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 1>would publish a a little Bell Engineer magazine would would

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 1>sponsor contest for the best essay about the proper telephone etiquette,

0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 1>and they published the best essay. Um. And this was

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of when the war on Hello began. So hello

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:29.959
<v Speaker 1>was being adopted as the salutation of choice by a

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of people, and phone executives and other people thought

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 1>that this was a vulgar means of greeting someone on

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 1>the phone. I have a quote from that winning essay.

0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 1>It is would you rush into an officer up to

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 1>the door of a residence and blurred out, Hello, Hello,

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>who am I talking to? No one should open conversations

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 1>with phrases such as Mr Wood of curdson Son's wishes

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 1>to talk with Mr White without any unnecessary and undignified hello's. Huh. Now.

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I remember hearing once upon a time an apocryphal tale

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 1>that the telephone is what gave rise to the word hello,

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:07.160
<v Speaker 1>But in fact, the word hello pre dates the telephone

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:11.279
<v Speaker 1>by a few decades. I think the earliest written examples

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 1>date from the eighteen thirties. However, I will say that

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:18.840
<v Speaker 1>the telephone gave rise to the popularity of the word hello.

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:23.759
<v Speaker 1>And obviously, you know, any any sensible civilized human being

0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:28.880
<v Speaker 1>would use ahoyhoy uh. There's all kinds of other etiquette

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 1>notes in these manuals that were coming out at the time.

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:35.760
<v Speaker 1>One from California instructed speakers to speak directly into the mouthpiece,

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:38.440
<v Speaker 1>keeping the mustache out of the opening. Yes, And that

0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 1>would come into play again in the late two thousand's,

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 1>like the two thousand ten era, when hipsters would come

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:50.319
<v Speaker 1>back and the mustache got out of control again. Come on, guys, seriously,

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 1>like candlebar mustaches are amazing. It's not anyone's one before.

0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:57.920
<v Speaker 1>So what you're saying is that you had one before

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:02.240
<v Speaker 1>it was cool. Uh. Nineteen, A T and T becomes

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 1>a government sanctioned monopoly as the result of an antitrust lawsuit,

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:09.799
<v Speaker 1>he said, ignoring her appointedly. It's documented in something that's

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 1>called the Kingsbury Commitment. So at that time, A T

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:16.240
<v Speaker 1>and T divested self of controlling interest in Western Union,

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 1>so you know, they had acquired it earlier. Now they

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>divested their control of it and also allowed competing telephone

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:24.839
<v Speaker 1>services to connect to the A T and T long

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:27.320
<v Speaker 1>distance network. They had to do so with a fee.

0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 1>There was a toll fee every time they would connect

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:31.480
<v Speaker 1>to A T and T S line. So that's how

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 1>A T and T could gain revenue through this this relationship,

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:37.920
<v Speaker 1>all right. JP Morgan was still a partial owner of

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 1>A T and T at the time, and he was

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 1>fighting with the lawmakers known as trustbusters who were trying

0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:45.400
<v Speaker 1>to uh, trying to break up A T and T

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:48.320
<v Speaker 1>right up until he passed away in this year in

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:52.279
<v Speaker 1>nineteen and veiled it not continue to fight the way

0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:55.480
<v Speaker 1>that Morgan really wanted to. He he chose to dominate

0:35:55.560 --> 0:36:00.439
<v Speaker 1>through this kind of terrifically sneakily backhanded cooperation with these

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:03.799
<v Speaker 1>smaller independent companies, and because it meant that he still

0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:06.279
<v Speaker 1>made money from them, a lot of money. Yeah. I mean,

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:08.240
<v Speaker 1>you know this, this worked out really well for everyone

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:11.880
<v Speaker 1>except the independence because you know, the the arrangement helps

0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:15.319
<v Speaker 1>allow customers of different telephone companies connect with each other

0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:17.719
<v Speaker 1>because it mandates that a T and T has to

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>play with everyone's uh, everyone's network, So the network interconnectivity

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:25.400
<v Speaker 1>is now no longer a problem. But it gave a

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 1>T and T permission to function like a national utility,

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:32.839
<v Speaker 1>and and it would dominate the telephone market until uh,

0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 1>and some would argue, well beyond well yeah, well it

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:37.759
<v Speaker 1>is certainly into the eighties two, you could argue, and

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:40.279
<v Speaker 1>so so right, So if independent companies wanted to use

0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:43.480
<v Speaker 1>the widespread Bell system, they had to agree to use

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:45.799
<v Speaker 1>Bell's equipment, they had to adhere to their standards, and

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 1>they had to again pay fees. So if you use

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:51.360
<v Speaker 1>of those wires. If you're thinking that this antitrust story

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:54.880
<v Speaker 1>sounds familiar, it will get increasingly familiar as this series

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:58.280
<v Speaker 1>goes on. Yes, one competitor wrote that that this entire

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 1>ordeal was like trying to fight an octopus, which I

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:04.480
<v Speaker 1>just think is terrifically Like, I want that steampunk comic

0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:07.920
<v Speaker 1>book about that. I'm moving on into nine fourteen we

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:11.799
<v Speaker 1>see another technological development, the three element vacuum tube, which

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:16.400
<v Speaker 1>was an amplifier that enabled the first transcontinental line to exist,

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:18.799
<v Speaker 1>which didn't exist yet, it hadn't been laid down yet,

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:21.799
<v Speaker 1>but this technology is what made it possible. All right.

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:24.879
<v Speaker 1>This is an important advancement because of that aforementioned attenuation.

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 1>And you know, unless people could come up with a

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 1>better material than copper to transmit a signal with, or

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:33.880
<v Speaker 1>or a way to ample amplify the signal, it just

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:36.840
<v Speaker 1>wasn't going to work. And dr lead to Forest created

0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:42.040
<v Speaker 1>this audion uh, three element vacuum tube and it would

0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 1>be really big, and lots of other industries that enabled

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 1>the development of radio, radar, television, and computers right up

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:52.479
<v Speaker 1>until transistors became a thing in the nine sixties. Yeah, yeah,

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 1>you have to go all the way. Remember that the

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:58.320
<v Speaker 1>first transistor isn't even invented in the prototype stage until

0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 1>the late forties. So from this point until the late forties,

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:05.800
<v Speaker 1>just in the in the lab not not let alone

0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:08.239
<v Speaker 1>out in the real world. This is this is the

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<v Speaker 1>best the technology could offer us at the time, right, Yeah,

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I think nineteen sixties was a number that was incorrect.

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:17.759
<v Speaker 1>Listen to Jonathan Well. By the nineteen sixties it was

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<v Speaker 1>certainly common, and the fifties it wasn't common because they

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 1>still had they still had to refine the design. Certainly,

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:26.799
<v Speaker 1>the first transistor looks terrible. That's a very generous um.

0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:31.160
<v Speaker 1>And and meanwhile, via eighteen ties manufacturing subsidiary that we

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:34.880
<v Speaker 1>have previously mentioned, Western Electric Company International affiliates were starting

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 1>to sell equipment around Europe, South America and also in

0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Japan and Australia. Yeah. Yeah, we could not call them yet,

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 1>but that would that would change shortly, relatively speaking. January

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifteen, that's when the first long distance call is

0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:52.920
<v Speaker 1>between Alexander Graham Bell in New York and Thomas Watson

0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:58.719
<v Speaker 1>all the way in San Francisco. Watson. So yeah, this

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:02.360
<v Speaker 1>was that promise about getting that that long distance connection

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 1>all the way from coast to coast in the United States.

0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:08.359
<v Speaker 1>It also had two other connections. On that one call,

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:10.719
<v Speaker 1>there was the President of the United States who was

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:14.080
<v Speaker 1>in Washington, d C and Thomas Vale, who at the

0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:19.280
<v Speaker 1>time was in Jekyl Island, Georgia. I've been there as well,

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, it's kind of interesting. I think I've even

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:26.360
<v Speaker 1>seen a historic plaque that referenced this. But then again,

0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I have a feeling that Jackyll Island must be the

0:39:28.600 --> 0:39:31.799
<v Speaker 1>place where they make those historic plaques because they are everywhere.

0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 1>So the cost for those first three minutes of phone

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 1>time on a typical long distance call between New York

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 1>and San Francisco is twenty dollars and seventy cents in

0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifteen dollars. Now, in this one, I used the

0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Bureau of Labor Statistics because that was late enough for

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:49.720
<v Speaker 1>me to do that. That's based on the Consumer Price Index,

0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:53.080
<v Speaker 1>so that's the general price of goods and services in

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:56.600
<v Speaker 1>one year versus another year. So based on that, twenty

0:39:56.640 --> 0:40:00.759
<v Speaker 1>dollars and seventy cents is about four hundred seventy nine dollars.

0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 1>So that's how much it would cost you for three

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:05.759
<v Speaker 1>minutes of phone time on a call between New York

0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:11.799
<v Speaker 1>and San Francisco. Yikes. Wow. Uh So nineteen sixteen was

0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 1>the first year that they started testing phone service to Europe.

0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:18.319
<v Speaker 1>It would not work for another little bit. Yeah, and

0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:20.359
<v Speaker 1>so this phone service, you might think, oh, did they

0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:23.000
<v Speaker 1>lay a really long cable. No, the early phone service

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:26.279
<v Speaker 1>that would become the Transatlantic Phone Service was based on

0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:31.399
<v Speaker 1>radio waves, not on a physical cable. Nineteen seventeen, that's

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 1>the beginning of the US involvement in World War One.

0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Employees start to volunteer for service during World War One,

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 1>and A T and T develops the first air to

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:43.920
<v Speaker 1>ground ground to air radio communications systems. And that was

0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 1>also in the U S. Government took control of a

0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:49.840
<v Speaker 1>nation's telephone services. They would not give it back to

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:53.759
<v Speaker 1>its proprietary owners until nineteen nineteen. Yeah, it was considered

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 1>a wartime resource. So getting to nineteen nineteen, that's when

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Bell System first dial telephones there they are released in Norfolk, Virginia.

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:07.040
<v Speaker 1>And so before this, like we said before, you would

0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 1>pick up a phone and you would speak to an

0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 1>operator who would make the physical switching to let you

0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:15.359
<v Speaker 1>complete your call. The dialing, of course, is more what

0:41:15.400 --> 0:41:17.800
<v Speaker 1>we're familiar with today, unless we've all just used the

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:20.279
<v Speaker 1>automated settings on our smartphones and don't even remember how

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:23.880
<v Speaker 1>to dial anymore. But in general, it's where you type

0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:26.399
<v Speaker 1>in the series, or in this case, they were rotary phones.

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 1>You would dial literally around the dial. Did you ever

0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:33.000
<v Speaker 1>use a rotary phone? Okay, just checking. That was also

0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:35.480
<v Speaker 1>the year that Vale retired for the second time. He

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 1>would he would die the following year. So in nineteen

0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:43.880
<v Speaker 1>twenty one, the United States government passed the Willis Graham Act,

0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:49.080
<v Speaker 1>which removed antitrust restrictions to the telephone industry. So it's

0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 1>essentially saying open game for for A T and T,

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:58.759
<v Speaker 1>and would acquire over two hundred and seven thousand telephones

0:41:58.840 --> 0:42:01.440
<v Speaker 1>worth of exchanges within the next six years after this

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:04.400
<v Speaker 1>was passed. It was really again to help facilitate that

0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:08.040
<v Speaker 1>interconnected network of telephone systems, so this is continuing the

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:12.360
<v Speaker 1>work that was done back in nine um and it

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:14.200
<v Speaker 1>was also so that the United States wouldn't be played

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:17.000
<v Speaker 1>with hundreds of networks that had no inter connectivity. But

0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:19.200
<v Speaker 1>it also meant that it gave A. T and T

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:22.719
<v Speaker 1>the ability to really submit itself as a monopoly in

0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:26.439
<v Speaker 1>the United States. So nineteen twenty two was a big

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 1>year for multiple reasons, and that's the year we're gonna

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:31.440
<v Speaker 1>end this first episode on A T and T launched

0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:34.200
<v Speaker 1>the w E A F. Radio station in New York,

0:42:34.200 --> 0:42:37.239
<v Speaker 1>which was the very first radio station to broadcast a commercial.

0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 1>It's also the very first radio station to broadcast to

0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:44.920
<v Speaker 1>college football game Princeton beat University of Chicago. On August two,

0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenty two, Alexander Graham Bell died and on August fourth,

0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:54.880
<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenty two, during Alexander Graham Bell's funeral, all telephone

0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 1>service was suspended for a full minute in memory of Bell.

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:02.200
<v Speaker 1>So you know you're important when an entire country's communication

0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:06.799
<v Speaker 1>system shuts down in your Yeah. Yeah, so that's a

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:10.600
<v Speaker 1>pretty powerful stuff. Um. All right, Well that wraps up

0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:13.160
<v Speaker 1>our first part on A T and T now, and

0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:15.520
<v Speaker 1>we only got to nine two, so you see why

0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:17.799
<v Speaker 1>we had to divide it up. But when we come

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:20.680
<v Speaker 1>back for the next episode, we'll talk more about how

0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:23.520
<v Speaker 1>A T and T began to consolidate its power and

0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 1>some efforts on the part of the US government to

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe uh shake things up a little bit a couple

0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 1>of times as much as they could. Yeah, well, we'll

0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:33.359
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