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Speaker 1: former NFL quarterback sports talk host in Houston on the
Speaker 1: trials and tribulations of Deshaun Watson. Also, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you guys heard this or not, the Astros played
Speaker 1: the Angels and you had some fans who are throwing
Speaker 1: garbage cans onto the field. Dusty Baker, who wasn't there
Speaker 1: when the Astros cheated to win the World Series, had
Speaker 1: this to say about the Angels and how they acted
Speaker 1: when the Astros were in town. Amount of how still Dan,
Speaker 1: amount of hatred in the stands. And you know how
Speaker 1: many in the in the stands they've never done nothing,
Speaker 1: anything wrong in their life or you know, you know,
Speaker 1: we paid the price for it. How many people have
Speaker 1: not cheated, you know, on the test or or whatever
Speaker 1: at some point in time. I mean, it's easy, you
Speaker 1: know if you live in glass houses. But I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody lives in glass houses. And it's a said,
Speaker 1: you know, the situation for you know, for America to me,
Speaker 1: you know, when you when you hear things, I mean,
Speaker 1: what if the kids supposed to think in the stands
Speaker 1: or said to me like I said, you know, people
Speaker 1: make mistakes and you know we paid for ours and uh,
Speaker 1: you know we say Lugu alone love Dusty Baker. Dusty
Speaker 1: could not be further from reality. You didn't pay the price, Dusty.
Speaker 1: The Astros did not pay the price, literally and figuratively.
Speaker 1: Your astros never paid the price. Oh, they're gonna have
Speaker 1: the scarlet letter while they have their World Series ring.
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of athletes who will take the
Speaker 1: scarlet letter because that letter is a C for cheater.
Speaker 1: They didn't pay the price. There were no fans last year,
Speaker 1: so the fans are going to make up for lost time.
Speaker 1: They want to get their pound of flesh here. That's all.
Speaker 1: But you know, Dusty's approach should be, you know what,
Speaker 1: if you need to let it out, let it out.
Speaker 1: But hopefully we get to move on from this. We've
Speaker 1: all learned from it. And I wasn't here at the time.
Speaker 1: But I understand fans didn't get a chance to boo
Speaker 1: us last year. But if you're going to do it,
Speaker 1: maybe you do it early and then let's get it
Speaker 1: out of the way, like something that says, look, I
Speaker 1: acknowledge this. You know, how would Dusty feel if he
Speaker 1: was the manager for I don't know, the Dodgers and
Speaker 1: you lost to the Astros after they cheated. I don't
Speaker 1: think Dusty's gonna go You know what, we all make
Speaker 1: mistakes there, you know. It's what do you say to
Speaker 1: your kids? What do you say to your kids about
Speaker 1: what the Astros did? Like an inflatable garbage can? Okay,
Speaker 1: I can explain that to my kid. Hey, we were
Speaker 1: banging on garbage cans getting the signs and therefore we
Speaker 1: were able to cheat. That might be a little tougher
Speaker 1: to explain. Yeah, I love this idea though that like, uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know that they cheated to win the World Series here,
Speaker 1: but I guess none of you ever spied in your
Speaker 1: car on the highway to end. Okay, Well, then glasshouses, yes,
Speaker 1: And when you say people make mistakes, you can have
Speaker 1: a lapse in judgment once or twice when it's a
Speaker 1: whole sophisticated thing that you're doing over and over again.
Speaker 1: That's a little bit more than oops, a mistake. It's
Speaker 1: we familiar when we when we cheat like that and
Speaker 1: we've got this whole advanced thing with a screen in
Speaker 1: the back and sound effect. Are you and astros fi amps?
Speaker 1: I guess you can't have it both ways. We won
Speaker 1: the championship and we have the little astra. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: so you shouldn't really say anybody, But it's not a
Speaker 1: mistake that that does bother me as an astro fat
Speaker 1: I'm mistakes of the HAPs like oops, hey, we a
Speaker 1: mistake is when you you tripped down a flight of steps,
Speaker 1: not we're going to systematically bang on garbage cans here.
Speaker 1: This is a mistake. Bom bom, This is a mistake.
Speaker 1: Bom bomp. This is a mistake. Bompomp. We keep, we keep,
Speaker 1: you know, recreating this mistake over and over and over. Okay,
Speaker 1: I guess you never cheated on a test then when
Speaker 1: you were an elementary school Oh okay, mister perfect odd
Speaker 1: okay comes back around. Yes, mclen I want to defend
Speaker 1: Todd here. They're his astros when they cheat, But when
Speaker 1: he won the World Series and couldn't name a player
Speaker 1: on the whole team. We said, he wasn't a lot.
Speaker 1: He's like Mike Scott's still there, Enescabell. Okay, if you
Speaker 1: don't know the players on your favorite team, that's a problem.
Speaker 1: Yes it is. Yeah, you can't live in nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: six and move on from that. Yes, pay the good
Speaker 1: thing for Dusty Baker. After addressing that and letting everyone
Speaker 1: know that it bothers him, I'm sure the fans will
Speaker 1: pump the brakes and not try to get in his
Speaker 1: head even more. That's because that's what fans us to do.
Speaker 1: They usually respect people's privacy game. When asked to cool down,
Speaker 1: they do so. Yes, and people want to be able
Speaker 1: to boo. They want to have their moment with the
Speaker 1: Astros whoever's left. They want to let them know, Hey,
Speaker 1: you cheated, and then you'll move on. How long does
Speaker 1: this last? I don't know, but you know they got
Speaker 1: a haul pass because of the pandemic that fans couldn't
Speaker 1: come out and express their anger towards the Houston Astros.
Speaker 1: But Dusty, uh, dust He's not pleased. Yes done, Angels.
Speaker 1: Fans have more to be upset about. Than the Astros
Speaker 1: and Garbagekins. Um, yeah, maybe a non playoff team. The
Speaker 1: Angels should be allowed to cheat, and like, what are
Speaker 1: the Angels upset about? Can get the Angels? That system
Speaker 1: gets what's his name? That's why everybody's just cheating. Everybody
Speaker 1: we play is cheating. That's why, well, yeah, that's why
Speaker 1: we haven't. Mike Trout's had one playoff appearance. Everybody else
Speaker 1: must be cheating. Yes, that's it. Eight seven seven three
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Speaker 1: Not us. We're gonna do that coming up next hour
Speaker 1: and with Darius Rucker, m Kevin Durant's back and look
Speaker 1: great last night. The way I'm watching the Pelicans, I
Speaker 1: am fascinated by them because they do have some star quality.
Speaker 1: Zion's there, Brandon Ingram's there, got a Lonzo balls there.
Speaker 1: But I'm watching them play defense, and I had this
Speaker 1: flashback to when my daughter was playing fourth grade basketball
Speaker 1: and I was telling her how to play defense. She
Speaker 1: had no idea, still has no idea and she's a
Speaker 1: grown woman. But I said, hey, Grace, put your hands up.
Speaker 1: You play defense with your hands up. So she would
Speaker 1: just bounce around on the floor with her hands up.
Speaker 1: She didn't guard anybody. They were twenty feet from her
Speaker 1: and she had her hands up, didn't move, and I said, well,
Speaker 1: you got to guard the person with your hands up.
Speaker 1: It was just a foreign concept to her. Didn't understand it.
Speaker 1: I'm watching the Pelicans last night, and I'm seeing my
Speaker 1: daughter out there in fourth grade with your hands up,
Speaker 1: kind of looking around, going who how do we guard?
Speaker 1: You know, when you're in the deep end of the
Speaker 1: pool and you're treading water, when you're just learning how
Speaker 1: to swim, That's what the Pelicans look like. They were
Speaker 1: just sort of splashing around trying to tread water there.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're making LaMarcus Alders look like he's twenty
Speaker 1: five out there. But it was pretty impressive. By the way.
Speaker 1: There are six current NBA franchises that have been around
Speaker 1: since the merger ABA NBA who've never won an NBA title.
Speaker 1: Among that group, the teams that currently have the three
Speaker 1: best records in the league. The Jazz, Souns, and Nets
Speaker 1: are five of the top six, Sons fifty two years,
Speaker 1: Clippers fifty, Jazz forty six years, Nets forty four years,
Speaker 1: Nuggets forty four years, Indiana Pacers forty four years. Stead
Speaker 1: of your day, set of the day, past stat of
Speaker 1: the day, stat of the day comes that? What stat
Speaker 1: of the day? All right, we're fired up? This show
Speaker 1: already in progress. Yes, mclovin. I was going to turn
Speaker 1: that stat into a poll, which you can wear it
Speaker 1: one of two ways. Which team is most likely to
Speaker 1: breakthrough and win their first title this year or which
Speaker 1: team is likely to advance the conference finals and lose
Speaker 1: in five games to the Lakers. Oh, here we go.
Speaker 1: You're gonna call out the Suns and the Jazz, aren't you?
Speaker 1: And the Clippers? And put the Nuggets in there on
Speaker 1: that list too. I think no. Okay, I watched last night. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is like the layer of very good teams in
Speaker 1: the NBA. But are those championship teams like the Jazz
Speaker 1: and the Suns? Come on, I understand the hype, but
Speaker 1: do it in the playoffs. It feels like there's two
Speaker 1: teams that are above everybody else. But I find myself
Speaker 1: rooting for the Jazz more and more just to shut
Speaker 1: you up. Yeah, I know that's it. Like, why are
Speaker 1: you rooting for the Jazz? Oh to shut up mclovin.
Speaker 1: I am nervous how good they are three point shooting
Speaker 1: the Sons. But what you're early adapter on the Sun.
Speaker 1: I like the Sons. I wish that they weren't second
Speaker 1: place right now, Like I would like them to sneak
Speaker 1: up a little bit like they did the bubble last year.
Speaker 1: They're not sneaking up on anybody here, all right. Eight
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Speaker 1: Sean Salisbury will join us coming up in a little bit.
Speaker 1: The situation with Deshaun Watson took a turn yesterday. Now
Speaker 1: his accusers and Deshaun Watson will likely have their days
Speaker 1: in court at some point in the near future, and
Speaker 1: whether that's a civil or criminal case remains to be seen.
Speaker 1: But Watson is suffering losses now in the court of
Speaker 1: public opinion. And yesterday Nike announced that it was suspending
Speaker 1: its relationship with the Texans quarterback. Soon after that, Beats
Speaker 1: the Headphones by Doctor Dre said they were cutting ties
Speaker 1: with Watson and you could expect other sponsors to fall
Speaker 1: by the wayside, and so far most of what we
Speaker 1: know has come from either the accusers or Watson's lawyers.
Speaker 1: We did hear from an alleged victim on Tuesday. It
Speaker 1: was pretty powerful stuff, and now we wait the legal
Speaker 1: process will reveal more facts. Watson has said that he's
Speaker 1: not playing for the Texans. He may not have a
Speaker 1: choice playing for the Texans or not. He was a
Speaker 1: popular player not too long ago, and by all accounts,
Speaker 1: had a stellar reputation. That's all changed. The sponsors are
Speaker 1: the first to flee, and we'll see if Watson loses
Speaker 1: anything else as the process continues. At what point do
Speaker 1: you put him on the Commissioner's exempt list? And I
Speaker 1: think that's a tricky question right now for the NFL
Speaker 1: because if you put him on, then how do you
Speaker 1: take him off if this goes into the fall. If
Speaker 1: it goes into the fall, then you put him on
Speaker 1: the Commissioner's examp list. I think that would probably probably
Speaker 1: be the best way to protect the league, because this
Speaker 1: isn't about Deshaun Watson for the NFL, it's about the NFL.
Speaker 1: You want to protect yourself, take him off the field.
Speaker 1: You did this with Adrian Peterson, you did this with
Speaker 1: Ray Rice. But this is a tricky situation here, given
Speaker 1: the amount of time that you're going to have, and
Speaker 1: you discipline him. Let's say he settles all these civil cases.
Speaker 1: Does the NFL discipline him. It's like Ben Roethlisberger. I
Speaker 1: think they gave him a six game suspension reduced it
Speaker 1: to four with what happened in Georgia, and Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: might be facing the same situation also. Carolina. From what
Speaker 1: I'm told, Carolina was all in on trying to get
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and then this happened, and then that's why
Speaker 1: they didn't about face, and they wondered if they could
Speaker 1: move up in the draft. They couldn't move up in
Speaker 1: the draft, and then they got Sam Darnold. But imagine
Speaker 1: if Carolina traded a whole lot for Deshaun Watson and
Speaker 1: then it came out, Ben, would you do so you
Speaker 1: got Sam Darnold. I think it came out yesterday that
Speaker 1: the Niners were interested in trading for Sam Darnold. They
Speaker 1: decided that they weren't going to. Once they were able
Speaker 1: to move up to number three. Justin Fields is going
Speaker 1: to have his second Pro day and that'll be six
Speaker 1: days from now, and I'm curious what the reaction is
Speaker 1: going to be with Justin Field's second pro day because
Speaker 1: now he goes in knowing, Oh, Zach Wilson, roll left,
Speaker 1: throw right fifty yards, do your Patrick mahomes impersonation? Like
Speaker 1: those are the throws that make it on Sports Center
Speaker 1: and get replayed over and over and over, and then
Speaker 1: you have the analyst gush all over him. The Niners
Speaker 1: are reportedly going to Justin Field's second pro day. I'm
Speaker 1: asking my sources with this that, okay, have they made
Speaker 1: up their mind? And everybody keeps saying the same thing
Speaker 1: Mac Jones. Only one outlier has said that Trey Lance
Speaker 1: is still in the mix for what they're hearing. Whether
Speaker 1: that's true or not. These are my sources and they've
Speaker 1: been pretty damn good. But Justin Fields, I think, I
Speaker 1: think it's really smart because Okay, maybe you didn't believe
Speaker 1: what I did the first time, or I ran a
Speaker 1: four four forty. Now to me, this is more about
Speaker 1: the person. This is more about the personality of Justin Fields,
Speaker 1: like who is he? Because I see, I saw everything,
Speaker 1: and I talked to a source last night, and I said, so,
Speaker 1: how do you process this? Like I don't know how
Speaker 1: to sort this out? He said, well, go ahead, you
Speaker 1: want to point out Penn State in Indiana's performances, but
Speaker 1: you can't disregard what he did to Clemson and he
Speaker 1: played hurt against Clemson. He got crushed on that one
Speaker 1: tackle and he stayed in what he did to keep
Speaker 1: I have the Big Ten this year. Now, he was
Speaker 1: one of the few athletes willing to put themselves out
Speaker 1: there to play this year like he didn't need it.
Speaker 1: He probably, in fact, he probably would have been held
Speaker 1: in higher regard if the Big Ten didn't play, because
Speaker 1: that would have been based off last year. But that's
Speaker 1: what I would want to know, and that's what my
Speaker 1: source said last night. You know that teams want to
Speaker 1: know him, like who are you? Because we see the
Speaker 1: other stuff and then you'll hear, well, dan Orlovsky had
Speaker 1: information that you know, he shows up last one to
Speaker 1: show up, first one to leave. There was talk about
Speaker 1: his reads, you know, his progressions. You know, these are
Speaker 1: things that I would still want to know, and I
Speaker 1: would want to know how he is if I give
Speaker 1: him a play, and then what do you do with that.
Speaker 1: How do you process this? Because football is about fifteen seconds.
Speaker 1: The fifteen seconds that I get to play in, you
Speaker 1: see what it is and then you decide what you're
Speaker 1: going to do or you're going to spend that time
Speaker 1: changing the play and then it might be five seconds.
Speaker 1: Can you do that in real time? That's so important?
Speaker 1: How healthy is he? Can he process this like any
Speaker 1: other quarterback? Yeah, Polly, I can remember our next guest
Speaker 1: Sean Salisbury and I'm not gonna name the name, but
Speaker 1: he was talking about a rookie quarterback who ended up
Speaker 1: being a bust and he was watching him, watching tape
Speaker 1: on him. He would go to the line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: and look down at the back of the center. He
Speaker 1: said he was not looking around the defense to find
Speaker 1: out who was where and everything. That He's like, oh,
Speaker 1: this guy, he's not reading the defense end up being
Speaker 1: a bust. And that's what these coaches want to know. No,
Speaker 1: if I send a play in, you process it. You
Speaker 1: go to the line of scrimmage, you look around, maybe
Speaker 1: you see something or when the play starts, because the
Speaker 1: plays only last in five seconds, maybe maybe a little
Speaker 1: bit longer. But what do you do? What are your reads?
Speaker 1: This is what you do. Kyle Shanahan is, you know,
Speaker 1: a great offensive minded coach, but his sister him, I
Speaker 1: think is based off of if that's not there, then
Speaker 1: that's there. Like he's telling you what to look for
Speaker 1: every single time you go to the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: But I think, in fairness to justin fields, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna include some of the subpar regular season games that
Speaker 1: I got to give you a little extra credit for
Speaker 1: what you did against Clemson. Yes, Levin. I find it
Speaker 1: so confusing that there's a criticism that he can't do
Speaker 1: reads or whatever. And do you look at his stats,
Speaker 1: it's like forty two touchdowns and two picks or something.
Speaker 1: I like, all these college guys are so productive. Why
Speaker 1: is it so much harder to be productive in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I know the systems are different, but like, if you
Speaker 1: trow forty touchdowns at three picks, then you're obviously doing
Speaker 1: something right. But you're Ohio State. You go on to
Speaker 1: the field everything, like maybe one game out of the
Speaker 1: year you go on the field and you're not the
Speaker 1: best team, and that's such a great advantage. How many
Speaker 1: teams can do that in the NFL, where when they
Speaker 1: go on to the field. They're the best team out
Speaker 1: there because you never know. You can say, oh, the
Speaker 1: Rams are supposed to beat the Jets, but they didn't.
Speaker 1: Ohio State goes onto the field, Alabama goes onto the field.
Speaker 1: We have the most talent and we're supposed to win.
Speaker 1: We have the best coach, we have the best Like that,
Speaker 1: that's such an advantage. You should be great in college. Yeah,
Speaker 1: mcclub well, I think that's the problem they see. Dwayne
Speaker 1: Haskins was amazing at Ohio. I think that's another. But
Speaker 1: you've been you started talking about this a while ago.
Speaker 1: This Haskins, his lack of success hurt fields because I
Speaker 1: into a proper him up. I don't know why scouts
Speaker 1: didn't buy into AJ McCarron at Alabama because he was
Speaker 1: that first quarterback that Alabama had that it looked like
Speaker 1: we can rely on our quarterback to win games for
Speaker 1: us because he threw thirty touchdowns, had three interceptions. But
Speaker 1: I never heard anything about his mental acumen, Like he's
Speaker 1: a career backup in the NFL, Like is what is
Speaker 1: different about Mac Jones than AJ McCarron. And I truly
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I'm not being sorry casting here.
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering. J McCarron is a career backup quarterback.
Speaker 1: I thought he could have been a starter in the
Speaker 1: NFL personality, you know, there was a Baker Mayfield type
Speaker 1: field to him. But with Mac Jones, it just feels
Speaker 1: like we've bought into He's Tom Brady. Okay, what does
Speaker 1: that mean? There's nobody Tom there's no First of all,
Speaker 1: get to get rid of that. Nobody's Tom Brady. Maybe
Speaker 1: he's he's a Matt Ryan time like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but stopped. You can't go he's Tom Brady. Yes, say
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, is Patrick Mahomes or Aaron Rodgers, He's not.
Speaker 1: Would you lower it down the level to give the
Speaker 1: guy a chance? Yeah? Do we have a little bit
Speaker 1: where you can say, you know, he reminds me of
Speaker 1: this quarterback not the greatest quarterback of all time? Yes,
Speaker 1: No one ever says he reminds me of Johnny Manzel.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be out of the league in a year
Speaker 1: and a half. No one ever says he reminds me
Speaker 1: of about bust O. People are going Kirk Cousins with Jones,
Speaker 1: so I don't that might be And I see that,
Speaker 1: But would you take that if you're the Niners? Is
Speaker 1: that a successful draft pick given what you gave up?
Speaker 1: And I'm going to say no, not with the third pick.
Speaker 1: He's got to be better than Kirk d. Cousins. And
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins is a good quarterback. He's not great. He's
Speaker 1: good eight through thirty five touchdown passes last year, like
Speaker 1: you'd sign up for thirty five touchdown passes if Mac
Speaker 1: Jones gave you that, and you go, oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: think he's got to be better than that. This program
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Speaker 1: That's old school. But I don't know why. I just
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Speaker 1: I've ever seen in there. Yeah. See, Piper's Pit was
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Speaker 1: Hul Coogan. Yeah, Paul, I felt the bad for those
Speaker 1: guys who are the guys who lost every match, you know,
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Speaker 1: Smith who just gave crush, Sergeant Slaughter versus Tim Wilson.
Speaker 1: All right, let me give you to you this incredible stating,
Speaker 1: and I gotta get Sean Salisbury. Fourteen quarterbacks have been
Speaker 1: drafted in the top five between two thousand and nine
Speaker 1: and two th eighteen. So fourteen quarterbacks between two thousand
Speaker 1: and nine and twenty eighteen among the first five picks.
Speaker 1: How many quarterbacks are with the team that selected them?
Speaker 1: The answer is one Baker Mayfield Junior. The third stead
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Speaker 1: stat of the day. With that we make the smooth
Speaker 1: segue into Sean Salisbury, morning host of the Sean Salisbury
Speaker 1: Show on Sports Talk seven ninety in Houston. Sean, it's
Speaker 1: in exact science. I don't care how many people are involved,
Speaker 1: whatever drills whatever you know, IQ, Like, how do you
Speaker 1: you're able to find your guy? It's not that easy.
Speaker 1: So the Niners have their guy, Mac Jones. Apparently Irban
Speaker 1: Myers got his guy, and the Jets have their guy,
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna have maybe justin Fields or Trey Lands.
Speaker 1: Not all of them are going to succeed. Now that
Speaker 1: statistics that Bobo Brazil, Dan, I was a Bobo Brazil
Speaker 1: guy too. That just beings were old. Okay, so we
Speaker 1: go back to that. Yeah, yeah, Dan, it is that
Speaker 1: you can evaluate. Everybody has a differing opinion. Some people
Speaker 1: love shorts and a T shirt. Some people need a
Speaker 1: little bit of film. Heck for Trey Lance and Mac Jones,
Speaker 1: both of them have started the same amount of games.
Speaker 1: When we ripped Trey Lance, well Max done it too,
Speaker 1: but he did it at Alabama. It's not And the
Speaker 1: statistics say, Dan, that you know, one of these guys
Speaker 1: or two are going to be really they are going
Speaker 1: to be stars, the third guys gonna be pretty good,
Speaker 1: and the other two will be floundering around trying to
Speaker 1: find their way whoever those five are. And the interesting
Speaker 1: thing about this is it may be a guy a
Speaker 1: lot of times if you go to a better football
Speaker 1: team or the one more quipped like Ben Roethlisberger. Remember Dan,
Speaker 1: when he was falling, he got to go to a
Speaker 1: team that didn't have to rebuild. They just reloaded in
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and now he's got a Hall of Fame career.
Speaker 1: So whatever it is, you go by and we all
Speaker 1: have a you know, the way we few quarterbacks and
Speaker 1: the way we look at it, you gotta be a
Speaker 1: little lucky, you gotta be well coached, and you got
Speaker 1: to have something that we don't see. And it's the
Speaker 1: things we don't see a lot of times in a
Speaker 1: quarterback are the things that end up in the difference
Speaker 1: maker in between good and great. And we draft top
Speaker 1: five quarterbacks for one big reason, aside from winning championships.
Speaker 1: We expect them to be Hall of famers, Dan, that
Speaker 1: we do if you're drafted is top five quarterback. There
Speaker 1: cannot be a lot of ifs by your name. But
Speaker 1: if I said mac Jones was going to have the
Speaker 1: career of Kirk Cousins, would that be a successful draft
Speaker 1: pick for the Niners. Sure it would. You'd win a
Speaker 1: lot of games. But when we say successful in the
Speaker 1: top five, Dan, we're not. That's not good enough. That
Speaker 1: I mean the perception. See, we want everybody to be
Speaker 1: Brady mahomes Manning. Where you gotta win champion right away.
Speaker 1: We're in that instant gratificating. If you're not good after two,
Speaker 1: well you're not Patrick Mahomes, But what happened? You're not
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Well you're You're right. Those guys, there's few
Speaker 1: that's rarefied air. Kirk Cousins is gonna leave this NFL
Speaker 1: when he does with a lot of numbers and a
Speaker 1: really good career. Vinnie Testa Verdi hell of a career.
Speaker 1: You know, not winning super Bowl champions is a startup grid.
Speaker 1: I can go through it. There's more of far more
Speaker 1: of those guys then there is guys were drafted in
Speaker 1: the first round that we say, man, what a great player.
Speaker 1: Look at the eighty three Class three Hall of famers,
Speaker 1: two really good careers, and Todd Blacklich didn't have his career,
Speaker 1: great broadcast, great guy didn't And Kenny O'Brien and Tony
Speaker 1: he said, had good careers. Yeah, but Dan so yeah,
Speaker 1: if mac Jones has it, But when you draft him third, Dan,
Speaker 1: when all is said done, when you and I are
Speaker 1: sitting around having a drink or we're evaluating on television
Speaker 1: or radio, we're gonna say, yeah, but he didn't win
Speaker 1: a championship. We don't say that about the left tackle
Speaker 1: or the right guard. We only say that about the
Speaker 1: quarterback or the pitcher in baseball. But with Kirk Cousins,
Speaker 1: he was a success story because he's what a fourth
Speaker 1: round draft pick. They had drafted RG three the same year.
Speaker 1: You know, Mac Jones doesn't get that benefit. He's done.
Speaker 1: You know he's moving up. They moved up, and they're
Speaker 1: gonna go up there and get him. But trying to understand,
Speaker 1: like Justin Fields did everything that you I guess you're
Speaker 1: supposed to do. He played big and big games, played hurt.
Speaker 1: But I don't understand. I don't understand this. I don't
Speaker 1: understand the Justin fields where teams are like he was dropping.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why, Dan is I'm trying to
Speaker 1: figure out too. Let's see after the game against Clemson
Speaker 1: and in the National title game when he was tough
Speaker 1: and it out outplayed Trevor Lawrence in the football game.
Speaker 1: What happened between we didn't have a combine right Dan
Speaker 1: this year. So what's happened between the time that game
Speaker 1: ended in January to now? I'll tell you what's happened.
Speaker 1: One person starts the verbiage, and then the next person
Speaker 1: buys in, and then people start the panic. See, we
Speaker 1: do everything we can to find out what's wrong with
Speaker 1: the guy as opposed to all the great things that's right.
Speaker 1: None of them are a perfect science, none of them
Speaker 1: are perfect at what they do. But he's got far
Speaker 1: more great traits and qualities than things that are negative.
Speaker 1: So what happened is that it starts to snowball. Oh,
Speaker 1: somebody said he didn't work hard. What about all of
Speaker 1: us that believe he works hard, or that he does
Speaker 1: get through his progressions, or that he does put in
Speaker 1: his foot in the ground and he is tough, and
Speaker 1: that players love being around him. The elevates to play.
Speaker 1: The only thing I can see with Justin Fields. I
Speaker 1: watched the tape and see about eighty percent of his
Speaker 1: throws this year. And he makes good decisions, he's a winner,
Speaker 1: he's tough, he's competitive. Yet somehow on the verbage, somebody
Speaker 1: is starting to say, well, four guys don't like him,
Speaker 1: I can't draft him. If you love him, draft him.
Speaker 1: I think it's absurd, and I think we're irresponsible, irresponsible
Speaker 1: a lot of times in the way we judge quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: If you're a person that just watches one game, don't
Speaker 1: come at me and tell me you know what Justin
Speaker 1: Fields is doing. Watch him in shorts and a T shirt,
Speaker 1: Watch him in film, talk to the backup quarterback, talk
Speaker 1: to a wide receiver, talk to his coach. Those are
Speaker 1: the people that are around him all the time. The
Speaker 1: person sitting up in the upper deck or that's going
Speaker 1: on a hot take show and saying, you know, and
Speaker 1: I saw him. He threw a pick in Game four
Speaker 1: against Indiana and he overcame it too. So I tend
Speaker 1: to look at the good things as long as there's
Speaker 1: it's not overbearing that you know, a guy doesn't move
Speaker 1: and he throws too many picks, and there's so many
Speaker 1: things against him. Justin Fields is a hell of a player.
Speaker 1: I think it's irresponsible and absurd for us to judge
Speaker 1: a guy in shorts and a T shirt more than
Speaker 1: we do in pads, and to start saying things about
Speaker 1: somebody that you quite frankly don't know enough about. The
Speaker 1: local coverage in Houston with Deshaun Watson, now you have
Speaker 1: sponsors who were starting to fall by the wayside. Has
Speaker 1: anything changed locally with Deshaun Watson Dan four months ago,
Speaker 1: if you just said Sean and we've talked and we
Speaker 1: have about him, about his game and if what he
Speaker 1: demanded a trade and all that. But before that, even
Speaker 1: and this is what's going on now, the court of
Speaker 1: public opinion would have been he was held in his
Speaker 1: high regard on and off the field, as anybody was
Speaker 1: in their city, any quarterback, any player, charity giving, great teammate,
Speaker 1: just a great a great person, a great football player.
Speaker 1: I'm just going by the court of public opinion. I
Speaker 1: am not implying guilt either way. Both sides deserve to
Speaker 1: be heard and let the system take, you know, the
Speaker 1: justice play it out, and then we'll make an opinion.
Speaker 1: But the court of public opinion, it's one hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty degrees different than it was Dan for all the
Speaker 1: stuff they said that he was then, the majority of
Speaker 1: the people that come on my show or the talk
Speaker 1: in Houston is one hundred and eighty degrees different now,
Speaker 1: regardless of what happens unfortunately, or depending on how you
Speaker 1: look at it, his reputation, the damage that's been done
Speaker 1: by this or by him is going to take a
Speaker 1: long time, and I don't know if he'll ever be
Speaker 1: able to fix it. But the court of public opinion
Speaker 1: is now, is he's not going to play it down
Speaker 1: this year or what have you? This is even before
Speaker 1: we know if guilt is there. But because and people
Speaker 1: are saying, well, are twenty two people lying? Are four
Speaker 1: people forced too much? Once? Too much? It's it's it's
Speaker 1: the one hundred eighty degrees different Dan than what we
Speaker 1: thought about Deshaun Watson or what the public thought about
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson four months ago, is tradable today? No, I
Speaker 1: mean now there's always somebody who's who if I mean
Speaker 1: as we sit today and I asked that question yet
Speaker 1: state just as we sit today, knowing what we do
Speaker 1: and don't know, can you trade him or would you
Speaker 1: take him? I don't know how you can. Now four
Speaker 1: months from now, we may be saying, yeah you can
Speaker 1: trade him, and yeah you can take him, because it's
Speaker 1: all been cleared up. But right today you're basically saying
Speaker 1: your team one side and devalue and are diminishing the
Speaker 1: importance on the other side. Football is not more important.
Speaker 1: We have to wait, So do the Texans, so do
Speaker 1: other teams, So does anybody pass in judgment on both sides,
Speaker 1: We have to wait, Dan, because if somebody did take
Speaker 1: him on it simply you'd be giving him away as
Speaker 1: a football player. I think just the pr move and
Speaker 1: what's good for your franchise. You can't move him, and
Speaker 1: you can't you cannot trade for him today. He's Sean Salisbury,
Speaker 1: the host of the Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven
Speaker 1: ninety in Houston. You had twelve starts in your career.
Speaker 1: You won six of those twelve starts. But if I
Speaker 1: look at the ratio of starts to quality quarterbacks you
Speaker 1: defeat did you might be up there as one of
Speaker 1: the greatest quarterbacks of all time. Because close you beat
Speaker 1: Jim Everett, you beat Bubby Brister, you bat beat Brett Farve,
Speaker 1: you beat John Elway, you beat Steve Young, you beat
Speaker 1: Jim Harball, and guess what six at Oa gets them.
Speaker 1: It's the only reason why, Dad, because I didn't play
Speaker 1: any of them a second. That's okay, It's okay you
Speaker 1: if you out of the country, you went to Canada.
Speaker 1: If you want to know how great by starts were
Speaker 1: and how quality, just ask me and I'll remind Elway
Speaker 1: of those guys about it all the time. Brother, If
Speaker 1: you ran into Farve. Would you say, how long would
Speaker 1: it take before you'd say, yeah, beat you Brett. I Well,
Speaker 1: I'd say, you know, it's still I Hey, it hovers
Speaker 1: over him. I lost to Salisbury. I would say, hey,
Speaker 1: Brett's great to see him, man boy. Last time we saw,
Speaker 1: we were hanging out and having a blasted always tournament.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I beat both of you guys,
Speaker 1: just so you know, undefeated, and we're Steve young at
Speaker 1: I whooped his rear end two while all three of
Speaker 1: those guys are wearing mustard colored jackets. And I'm sitting
Speaker 1: here talking to you, Paulie. Do you have Sean Salisbury
Speaker 1: stats against one of these guys? Yeah, you Motis Grashawn.
Speaker 1: You were thirty twenty for thirty three, two ninety two
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns. Far I've had three interceptions and no touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, just I don't know Dan,
Speaker 1: by the way, by the way, what else you have
Speaker 1: against Alway in a driving snowstorm? Of course I beat
Speaker 1: him in his building. I went in there in front
Speaker 1: of his family and was the NFL Player of the week,
Speaker 1: just so you know, thank you. And they're all laughing
Speaker 1: at you. Say Sean, Hey, everybody finds a little luck
Speaker 1: six times in their career. Yeah, there you go. Thank you, Sean.
Speaker 1: Have a great week. Great great to talk to you'all.
Speaker 1: Love you guys. I appreciate you having me on Sean
Speaker 1: Salisbury Morning, host of the Sean Salisbury Shows. Were tunk
Speaker 1: seven ninety in Houston. That's pretty impressive lineup. Heck yeah, dude.
Speaker 1: I mean, you beat Elway, you beat Farve, you beat
Speaker 1: Steve Young in CVENG Super Bowl year. Of course, ninety
Speaker 1: four he'd already clinched the Tyler was the last game
Speaker 1: of the season. Give too many details, Zara McLevin. Four starters.
Speaker 1: We're playing for the Niners. That's how we stayed with
Speaker 1: the positive here. All right, we'll come back Play of
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Speaker 1: You know, I was watching the Nets and Lakers obviously
Speaker 1: got Andre Drummond, the Nets got LaMarcus Aldridge and Blake Griffin,
Speaker 1: and the NBA is going to have to address this
Speaker 1: next season. Now, I'm not saying that they need to
Speaker 1: or you know, that's the reason why they're going to.
Speaker 1: They're already looking at how do you have these super
Speaker 1: teams able to stockpile these players who get bought out
Speaker 1: with their contracts and then Andre Drummond joins the Lakers
Speaker 1: or Blake Griffin or LaMarcus Aldridge. I think the NBA
Speaker 1: is going to look at this and it appears to
Speaker 1: be sort of a loophole that you're able to bring
Speaker 1: in these plays and it'll be team friendly with the
Speaker 1: salary cap and with what's happening with the Nets, what's
Speaker 1: happening with the Lakers. You know DeMarcus Cousins is coming
Speaker 1: back in to the league. Do you just have these
Speaker 1: players who get to a certain point financially and you're
Speaker 1: in with a bad team and they decide to buy
Speaker 1: you out and then one of these other teams scoops
Speaker 1: them up. Now you can say, well, other teams can
Speaker 1: scoop them up, You're right, But you know, these players
Speaker 1: can decide who they want to play for, and you
Speaker 1: want to play for a championship. That's what Blake Griffin
Speaker 1: and LaMarcus Aldridge reason why they went to the Nets.
Speaker 1: And all you do is you keep them for six
Speaker 1: months and then you know whether you keep them or not.
Speaker 1: You know, do the Lakers have long term plans for
Speaker 1: Andre Drummond? I have no idea, But I don't think
Speaker 1: that Marcus saul signing has paid off the way they
Speaker 1: thought it was going to. But you bringing Andre Drummond,
Speaker 1: and you know Drummond is to help you get to
Speaker 1: when Anthony Davis comes back, when Lebron comes back. Like you,
Speaker 1: you just sort of need to stay in the mix here. Now,
Speaker 1: if you look at the Lakers, they may not have
Speaker 1: home court advantage. Okay, if you win one game on
Speaker 1: the opponent's floor. Now you have home court advantage back, like,
Speaker 1: that's that's where really what it comes down to. So
Speaker 1: it's it's not that big until you get to a
Speaker 1: point where, Okay, this team we're facing in the Western
Speaker 1: Conference finals has home court advantage and that could be
Speaker 1: the difference with the first couple of rounds. Probably not, yeah,
Speaker 1: mcle Also the Clippers, that's not an issue no obviously
Speaker 1: at all, which could very well be the three six matchup. Yeah,
Speaker 1: could be. What's pole question we're gonna go with. Okay,
Speaker 1: I have three poll questions. Rapid Fire, best non team
Speaker 1: sport event of the year, Master's Day total five hundred,
Speaker 1: Wimbledon or Kentucky Derby, best chance to break their title
Speaker 1: drought in the next three years, Jazz Nuggets, Suns or Clippers,
Speaker 1: and off the miss coming up with us tomorrow. Best
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Speaker 1: Hulkogan the Rock, Steve Austin, Macho Man or Andre the Giant.
Speaker 1: Obviously this depends how old you are, but those are
Speaker 1: the I looked up a list of the top guys
Speaker 1: and that's that's who came up. Now I know who
Speaker 1: Darius Rutger's favorite is he's going to join us in
Speaker 1: about ten minutes. He is he has bought some items
Speaker 1: from this or that had to do with this wrestler
Speaker 1: a lot. I was there when he spent a lot
Speaker 1: of money on an item, crazy amount of money, but
Speaker 1: he said he had to have it. Yes, I like
Speaker 1: the guys who are like designed to lose, Like it's
Speaker 1: like coming up against the contender. It's Jim Jones or
Speaker 1: somebody like with that or a common name who just
Speaker 1: gets slaughtered. In the early cards, there was a guy
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Speaker 1: like everyone knew him, but he would fight against you,
Speaker 1: Sergeant Slaughter. It's not gonna work out too well. I
Speaker 1: thought you said his nickname was std Oh, I was
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Speaker 1: closing move, the big Penicillin. Yeah, they called him the
Speaker 1: free Clinic. You always claim to fame. He lost to
Speaker 1: King Kong Bunny and Wrestlemany one in eight seconds, the
Speaker 1: fastest title loss in the history of the support. Yeah.
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