Speaker 1: I am all in. I am all in with Scott
Speaker 1: Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast and this is Scott Patterson.
Speaker 1: I Am all in Podcast. One on one interview with
Speaker 1: Jill Brennan Lincoln. Jill, Hello, how are you. It's been
Speaker 1: it's been a minute and you haven't changed even one iota.
Speaker 1: And I want to say that back to you, well
Speaker 1: to stop it that we know that's a lie. Okay,
Speaker 1: but thank you even though that's a lie. But in
Speaker 1: my case, I'm telling the truth because I'm looking at
Speaker 1: a photo of you on my right and now I'm
Speaker 1: looking at you on the zoom on the left, and
Speaker 1: there's no difference. The only difference is you're wearing glasses.
Speaker 1: How the heck do you do it? I'm doing great.
Speaker 1: How about you? I'm doing fine, doing okay. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. This is gonna be uh, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be fun. It is gonna be fun. I
Speaker 1: just watched the episode last night, and I watched it
Speaker 1: with my to my eleven year old and my seventeen
Speaker 1: year old, and like, mom, you were the town floozy.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was, So your first episode was
Speaker 1: season one, episode one, and you were in the pilot episode.
Speaker 1: I was do you think I forgot? Where were you
Speaker 1: in the pilot? I was like this teacher and I
Speaker 1: came in and I will never forget because it was
Speaker 1: your pilot, and you know, as all pilots do. It
Speaker 1: ran a little late, and I was waiting and I
Speaker 1: was I had heard, I had I was in New
Speaker 1: York at the time, and I had done a play
Speaker 1: with Ed Herman, so I heard he was in it.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, it must be good, and um,
Speaker 1: I was just a small part. I showed up. I
Speaker 1: think I'm not sure if I found out that the
Speaker 1: Rory was going to be was a Houston from Houston
Speaker 1: and I was from Houston. I was sitting outside. It
Speaker 1: was great. But then I you know, played this small
Speaker 1: teacher and then I came in as Crazy Carry, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I guess the teacher just you know,
Speaker 1: had really had it and just you know, really went
Speaker 1: a different direction, right, but Barry and everything. But it
Speaker 1: was fun. I was thrilled to get to come back
Speaker 1: for Crazy Carry. That was awesome. And then you portrayed
Speaker 1: Carrying season four episode thirteen, episode twenty one, came back
Speaker 1: in season five, episode fifteen. Yeah, yeah, you were the teacher.
Speaker 1: So how'd you get the role for the pilot? Did
Speaker 1: you audition or how did that happen? I did? And
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny. My husband I were talking, you
Speaker 1: know how when you've worked a long time, you have
Speaker 1: like if you have to audition quickly, you have a
Speaker 1: couple of characters in your back pocket that you play with,
Speaker 1: you know. But I read it and I thought it
Speaker 1: was hysterical because I just thought she was so unaware
Speaker 1: of how possibly disgusting she was and overt she was.
Speaker 1: I thought it was more and I just thought, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. I thought the jokes were great. So
Speaker 1: we got in there. So I kept practicing, you know
Speaker 1: how I might lean over when I was auditioning and
Speaker 1: reveal my cleavage because I was sure that's who she was.
Speaker 1: And when I got into the audition, I actually did that,
Speaker 1: and the button popped open on my shirt and I
Speaker 1: just was like all there, and everybody just cracked up,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I think this went well today.
Speaker 1: Funny how that stuff happens and it just works out
Speaker 1: for the best. It does. It does it's right, you know,
Speaker 1: and and ninety nine times out of a hundred, it
Speaker 1: doesn't work out, and it's like, you know, she came
Speaker 1: in and there was this thing. But you know, I
Speaker 1: felt the same way when I went. I felt like
Speaker 1: I was in the right room because some some things
Speaker 1: didn't go well, but they laughed and I was just like, God,
Speaker 1: this is these are the right people, you know, so
Speaker 1: you get that sense. Um, so did they tell you
Speaker 1: right after you finished the first one that you'd be
Speaker 1: coming back? No, they didn't. They called because there was
Speaker 1: like a ton of people who auditioned for it. You
Speaker 1: guys were like really a hit already when I came in. Okay,
Speaker 1: so it was like there were some you know, there
Speaker 1: were some heavy players sitting out there wanting to do it,
Speaker 1: that recognizable people, and so it was a long list
Speaker 1: of waiting. But yeah, it was great. I was you know,
Speaker 1: I had done a couple of things at that point,
Speaker 1: but I mean I really wanted to be on the show.
Speaker 1: Everybody that I knew that had ever done theater right
Speaker 1: in New York was ending up on the show that
Speaker 1: I really respected, So um, you know, it just had
Speaker 1: that feeling. The show just was so quick, so well written,
Speaker 1: so smart, It was fun. Everybody wanted to be on it,
Speaker 1: so I was thrilled to get it. Tell us a
Speaker 1: little bit about those waiting rooms, because I've walked into
Speaker 1: those waiting rooms and seen recognizable stars and thought to myself,
Speaker 1: Oh god, what have I gotten myself into it? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you're like, either I'm going to get this because I
Speaker 1: like I memorized and it's like, all there, I've made
Speaker 1: every choice. They can't take it away from me, right,
Speaker 1: Or I've been in so many rooms with Jane Lynch
Speaker 1: this one. I remember seeing McKenzie Phillips. I was like,
Speaker 1: what is Mackenzie Phillips doing here? And you know, you
Speaker 1: just have to be in those situations. You start to
Speaker 1: learn as you do it right. You have to nail
Speaker 1: it right. It has to you have to be on
Speaker 1: it or you don't have a chance, or their agent
Speaker 1: has to ask for a lot more money, which was
Speaker 1: you know, luckily happened to me this point. I remember
Speaker 1: one of my first auditions in New York. I walked
Speaker 1: in and I to my right I saw Alec Baldwin.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, and I went, are you kidding me? Are
Speaker 1: you even because he'd already kind of hit it right. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm taking what on earth is he doing here? You know?
Speaker 1: And then I said, no, that's not the question. What
Speaker 1: am I doing here? And he's on the phone. It
Speaker 1: sounded like it was. He was wearing a tennis outfit
Speaker 1: and he had his tennis racket. It was all very casual,
Speaker 1: and he was sort of you know, running around New
Speaker 1: York doing things and having tennis lessons and doing auditions
Speaker 1: and going to lunch and setting dinner, rupping, and I'm like, wow, okay,
Speaker 1: this is serious now, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, those rooms, man,
Speaker 1: those rooms, I don't miss them. I don't miss them
Speaker 1: at all. There it was, and then you have to
Speaker 1: keep your act together, stay focused, not get distracted. It
Speaker 1: was I could never tell, didn't you find? I felt
Speaker 1: like they were game plays in those rooms too, a
Speaker 1: lot of attitude, sometimes psyching each other out, and then
Speaker 1: sometimes they were really fun where you were just literally
Speaker 1: having it. I would do better when the room was fun,
Speaker 1: when people are goofing off having a good time. The
Speaker 1: serious rooms where we were all desperate. More pilot rooms, right,
Speaker 1: we're auditioning for a pilot a lead that they were tents,
Speaker 1: So how could you get through that with especially when
Speaker 1: you're audition for a comedy, right, I think it's I
Speaker 1: think you're I think it depends on how bulletproof you
Speaker 1: are when you walk in. If you know your lines
Speaker 1: and you're just completely confident you can go in and
Speaker 1: have a good time. That's right, that's right in the
Speaker 1: room and just psych people out, because that's the guy
Speaker 1: or that's the girl that just pisses everybody off. It's
Speaker 1: like that kind of work on my stuff here, you know,
Speaker 1: and like you can just feel the tension in those rooms.
Speaker 1: Everybody's just like but I mean, but that when you
Speaker 1: go back to that, how could you really do that
Speaker 1: when you got fifteen pages? Right? Like you know the
Speaker 1: night before right, you know, and that's what the stress on. Right,
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, here they are. We'll see you tomorrow
Speaker 1: at ten. Thanks a lot, no sleep. By the way,
Speaker 1: Alec Baldwin is there, right, and he's and he's relaxed
Speaker 1: as hell about it. Months he's probably talking to his
Speaker 1: agent talking about the offer they just made, right, that's right,
Speaker 1: all uh, yeah, we got to get more money. I mean,
Speaker 1: I want to do this, but you know it's like gosh,
Speaker 1: heck um, all right, so we like that carry and
Speaker 1: Luke had a fling and supposedly made out made out
Speaker 1: under the bleachers. I think I mischaracterized it in the
Speaker 1: last couple of podcasts. I did as actually doing the deeds,
Speaker 1: so it was just making out right. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I never knew. I think it's a mystery. I let
Speaker 1: my mind wander a little. Yeah, maybe maybe you shouldn't
Speaker 1: do that. He decided they just made out. I think
Speaker 1: Harry think they did. The team so the way that
Speaker 1: Carrie delivers her lines are absolutely hilarious when you read
Speaker 1: the script. What was your reaction to it, I thought
Speaker 1: I just thought it was I just thought she was
Speaker 1: gloriously bold, over sexed, and unaware that it was completely
Speaker 1: inappropriate when she had a husband. That's because she lives
Speaker 1: in that town. I otherwise you have to play her
Speaker 1: like some sneaky, gross, horrible woman that's trying to have
Speaker 1: an affair. I just really think, I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: they had an open marriage, or Barry was just checked
Speaker 1: out flirting all the time. She was just the party girl.
Speaker 1: Don't you think she was like the wild girl in
Speaker 1: high school? You know, yeah, there's there's always a couple. Sure, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you actually you know now that you mentioned it. You
Speaker 1: remind me of somebody from high school. You really do,
Speaker 1: and I don't. I don't. I don't want to say
Speaker 1: your name. But she was very popular. Well I was not, No,
Speaker 1: I was. I was a theater nerd. So this is
Speaker 1: fun to play because this is really not Um you know,
Speaker 1: that's why my kids were like, you were the town flousing,
Speaker 1: your boobs are hanging out, and I was a good one.
Speaker 1: Um No, it was really good writing though, Like that
Speaker 1: one line, I think there's like we're in the I
Speaker 1: was watching it last night. I'm it's like we're before
Speaker 1: the bachelor party. We're in your diner. Stripper comes in
Speaker 1: for Liz right, and um, you asked, I wrote it down.
Speaker 1: It was so funny. Is this how a turkey leg
Speaker 1: is supposed to look? And she just comes right back
Speaker 1: and she says, take your pants off and let us see.
Speaker 1: Come on, I mean, come on, it's this lovely little town.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just such a good writing. It was funny, really,
Speaker 1: like the things that because we talks fast, the things
Speaker 1: we could say, I know, it was wild. Um okay,
Speaker 1: And so then, so what else do you remember about
Speaker 1: that day shooting in the diner with a stripper and
Speaker 1: the whole thing. What else can you tell us? Well,
Speaker 1: I remember that kid was super cute, and I did
Speaker 1: other things because I was watching it last night and
Speaker 1: nobody did. But like, we were all on that show,
Speaker 1: so he had another show at some point, so obviously
Speaker 1: we weren't the only ones who thought he was cute.
Speaker 1: But I mean, come on, I might at work in
Speaker 1: the diner and there's this gorgeous guy that ends up
Speaker 1: being a star. I don't know what I saw him
Speaker 1: on stripping for us. And you know, kath Leen who
Speaker 1: played Liz, was a blast. She was a blast, oh yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: and a Della Wise brothers, Oh my gosh. You can't
Speaker 1: ask for anything better than that. They were hysterical. So
Speaker 1: we weren't on, you know, doing the scene. We were
Speaker 1: genuinely laughing and having a great time together. So it
Speaker 1: was a one day that's good day. Good a lot
Speaker 1: of good days in that diner. That was a good
Speaker 1: atmosphere in there, you know, I like, I really did,
Speaker 1: because because you could you know, it was outside to
Speaker 1: begin with it It had the big windows and you
Speaker 1: could see everything and it was just didn't you know,
Speaker 1: you didn't feel hemmed in at all, but most of
Speaker 1: those sets it was just like kind of closed off
Speaker 1: and um yeah that was a great place to shoot.
Speaker 1: I love that. Um So you so you watched the
Speaker 1: episode last night or a couple of the episodes that
Speaker 1: you were in. Yeah, okay, and it was that Is
Speaker 1: that the first time you've done that in a while?
Speaker 1: In a while? Yeah? So what what does it feel like?
Speaker 1: Because for me, it's for me it's weird, but I mean,
Speaker 1: are you used to it now? But what was it
Speaker 1: like for you? Well? I started watching them and I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, this is just good. This is good.
Speaker 1: This is it, you know, because sometimes you watch your
Speaker 1: stuff and you're like, oh man, that is just I'm
Speaker 1: I mean there I had some cringe worthy moments where
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, that's a little bige a few
Speaker 1: of those, but I thought, God, we were good. It's funny,
Speaker 1: and I ended up really enjoying it. I mean, especially
Speaker 1: that one, the Renaissance wedding and then the Jews and
Speaker 1: Chinese food where we have you and I are talking
Speaker 1: and the kid comes up and we're talking about inappropriate
Speaker 1: stuff and he walks up. Come on, that was funny.
Speaker 1: You were funny. You were fun to work with because
Speaker 1: you were always the character was always not into it.
Speaker 1: It was such a great It was such good writing.
Speaker 1: They put crazy carry up against this guy. She can't
Speaker 1: see no right right. I loved it. It was great.
Speaker 1: The kids laughed. They don't laugh a lot. Oh really,
Speaker 1: they laughed really, But I mean my boobs were hanging out.
Speaker 1: That was half of it. So what was your favorite
Speaker 1: memory being on the set? Um? Oh, there's so many.
Speaker 1: I loved going out when they would do the little
Speaker 1: town square stuff, you know, at the wedding and then
Speaker 1: everybody would come together, you know, whenever you had those
Speaker 1: scenes where it was everyone from this season and the cast.
Speaker 1: And but I really do a lot of different things.
Speaker 1: I love the makeup room, the makeup trailer. Those girls
Speaker 1: could make you look ten years younger. I would always
Speaker 1: walk away with notes. I loved everything I wore. I
Speaker 1: used to try to steal the necklace or something because
Speaker 1: they were always finding something. But um, probably my favorites
Speaker 1: were around that time with Liz and the and the
Speaker 1: Delawiz brothers and we'd be off and we'd just be
Speaker 1: cracking up, and you know, Dom Deloise was their dad.
Speaker 1: And I had done some play with them and Liz
Speaker 1: with the first thing she said to me. The Kathleen
Speaker 1: who played Liz came out to me and she was like,
Speaker 1: you gotta really fast here. She's like, you got tucked fast,
Speaker 1: I mean fast. And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would be okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna talk fast.
Speaker 1: But I loved meeting you. You were fun. You always
Speaker 1: were like, you know, blight bit sarcastic and funny and quick.
Speaker 1: I just thought it was the nicest group of people.
Speaker 1: I did freak out one time when like I got
Speaker 1: a line correction for an and I think I left
Speaker 1: out an and or a butt. And I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: so okay, now I'm here, I'm coming word perfect. Huh yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: There was no less we'd have, you know, like like you,
Speaker 1: some other actors would come on, you know, New York Train,
Speaker 1: New York Experience Theater, actors, you name, people come on
Speaker 1: and they would just not be able to do it,
Speaker 1: and they would freak a little bit. And it was
Speaker 1: sometimes said to watch they didn't understand initially how fast
Speaker 1: they had to go, and they couldn't comprehend it because
Speaker 1: they never their brain, never had their brain and their
Speaker 1: emotions never had to engage that quickly. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: just you know, and and they all eventually got it
Speaker 1: right because you know, they you have to and it's
Speaker 1: amazing what people can do when they have to do it.
Speaker 1: And they all pulled through. Everybody pulled through and like
Speaker 1: just killed it just where they were great. They were great.
Speaker 1: But initially it was like, wow, they had the same
Speaker 1: reaction you did, and you know what, and it was
Speaker 1: also sorry, but but it was also the same reaction
Speaker 1: we had when we were first there. It's like, oh, faster, fast,
Speaker 1: that's the only note we got fast to go faster,
Speaker 1: so then, you know, because we weren't all up to
Speaker 1: speed right right away. So yeah, it was quite shocking. No. No,
Speaker 1: I remember getting a call. I got a call, Oh
Speaker 1: really really yeah yeah, And he was like, Jill, this
Speaker 1: is Gilmore girls and so like they always that, they
Speaker 1: want you to me to tell you like be off
Speaker 1: book and you got to move it. There are no positives.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh yeah, I'm a little insulted with
Speaker 1: my agent, right, I'm like, oh yeah, because you've done
Speaker 1: this so much, I got this. I'm gonna it's called
Speaker 1: acting on the line, you know. What I mean, we
Speaker 1: can do this, we can do this. But even the
Speaker 1: first time I got into that scene with you, one
Speaker 1: of my first scenes with you, I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: this is fast. This is this is getting to the
Speaker 1: you know, there's a joke one two three without it
Speaker 1: feeling like a sitcom, right, this is this is fast.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I remember being on there and I remember
Speaker 1: seeing some people struggle a couple of times. It's just
Speaker 1: the game moves quickly there. Um. But once I got
Speaker 1: into the rhythm of what you guys were doing, you
Speaker 1: played the scene with you guys, then it's sort of
Speaker 1: you got you got it right, right, Um, what was
Speaker 1: going on? You did great because you kept your own
Speaker 1: rhythm and it didn't seem rushed, which is you know,
Speaker 1: the whole art of it, right, That's what you need
Speaker 1: to capture for your character. You get caught up in
Speaker 1: our rhythms and our speeds. If you're matching, matching, matching,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna it's gonna be incongrus I agree, right
Speaker 1: you You kept your own kind of personal rhythm for
Speaker 1: the character, which is so hard to do on that show.
Speaker 1: So good on you for that. So so you haven't
Speaker 1: acted in a while do you miss it? Well, um,
Speaker 1: good question, I do. But I you know, I went
Speaker 1: and I had two girls, right, and by the second
Speaker 1: I the first one, I was like, I gotta find
Speaker 1: some sort of job that's gonna be a little bit
Speaker 1: more stable, and I'll still do this. So I was doing,
Speaker 1: you know, teaching right right. I was teaching acting classes
Speaker 1: at a university at APU as there's a Pacific university.
Speaker 1: And then you know I would still do it. I would.
Speaker 1: I was still doing a lot. I was doing a
Speaker 1: lot on Boston Legal. I was like thirteen fourteen episodes,
Speaker 1: had a great time, this crazy character called U Grace.
Speaker 1: It was a takeoff on Gracie Jane. It was fun.
Speaker 1: And then the second kid came along and I would like, now,
Speaker 1: I it's not fair. Now do you ever think this yourself.
Speaker 1: I never would have even thought about like stepping away
Speaker 1: with self taping. But you had to show up. I mean,
Speaker 1: you got the fifteen pages, you had to drive, then
Speaker 1: you had to be ready to go. Oh my word,
Speaker 1: if I would have never fall going anywhere with the
Speaker 1: kids screaming in the back, I could have self taped
Speaker 1: all the way through that. But you know I did.
Speaker 1: I just and then I fell into starting a BFA
Speaker 1: and acting program and I realized I was pretty good
Speaker 1: at produce sing, so I like became the chair and
Speaker 1: started this. I don't know, I'm having a great time.
Speaker 1: It's like a second career. I like teaching acting and
Speaker 1: we're getting ranked and been in the Hollywood Reporter for
Speaker 1: having a great showcase. So I love it. I am thinking, though,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm missing acting some I'm missing it a little,
Speaker 1: and there's so much content out there. I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I should self tape and no
Speaker 1: one wants to see it. You know, it gets a
Speaker 1: little hard out there. It's hard. Yeah, it's very it's
Speaker 1: very difficult. Yeah. Yeah, I'd be lying if I said
Speaker 1: I didn't it was fun. It's like a vacation when
Speaker 1: you work well. We need you back. We need people
Speaker 1: like you back, So get your butt back. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna play a little game for called rapid Fire. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ask you, Okay, I'm gonna ask you questions. You're
Speaker 1: gonna fire just like the show. You're gonna not give
Speaker 1: it any thought, just boom right, Okay, Reddy, how many
Speaker 1: cups of coffee do you having a day too. Are
Speaker 1: your team low Can, Team Jess or Team Dean? I
Speaker 1: think I'm team Logan. Who is your favorite Gilmore Girl's character? Um?
Speaker 1: I loved Paris? What would you order at Luke's Diner? Oh? Oh, Hamburger?
Speaker 1: Would you rather go on a road trip with Taylor
Speaker 1: or Michelle? Michelle? Would you finish the lyric? Please? And
Speaker 1: where you lead? I will follow dot dot dot. Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I don't remember any anywhere that you
Speaker 1: tell me too. It's okay, you don't have to apologist
Speaker 1: Jackson's Vegetables or Suki's baked Goods. Would you rather listen
Speaker 1: to Drella's Harp or The Troubadour's cover songs? Troubadour's cover songs?
Speaker 1: Sheldon Prepper, Stars Hollow High, What Shelton Prep or Stars
Speaker 1: Hollow High, Stars Hollow High. Joe Brennan Lincoln, Congratulations, you
Speaker 1: have passed rapid Fire with flying colors. Thank you for
Speaker 1: really good about that. We're happy for you. Uh, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for your time and coming on. I
Speaker 1: know you're incredibly busy. Keep going with that program that
Speaker 1: you're developing over there. Were you at Aso's a Pacific
Speaker 1: University and congratulation on that. I wish you much success
Speaker 1: and say hello to the family for me and all
Speaker 1: the best. Yeah, and it's good to see you. You
Speaker 1: look grazy. Oh, thank you. I'm you know, we're just
Speaker 1: out here. We're going crazy, that's all, you know, just
Speaker 1: trying to keep you together. Good to see you. Take care, Joe,
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