1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: A man can't spend seventy five or one hundred dollars 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,079 Speaker 1: on a first. 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: What wait, wait a second. If I'm doing this math right. 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 3: She wants me to spend one hundred dollars in the 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 3: first date. 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 2: Do you know how much that is? 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 3: That's four large Mountain Do Baja blasts, twelve crunchy tacos, 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 3: two nacho cheese Dorito's Logos tacos, four Mexican pizzas, two 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 3: cinnamon twists, two grilled cheese burritos, three cheese chicken flat 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 3: bread melts, two Dorito's Cheesy Gordida crunch, nacho cheeses, one stacker. 11 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: And a black bean crunch wrap supreme. How much taco 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 2: bell do you plan on eating on this first date? 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 3: Also, I probably should adjust this and add another stacker 14 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: and another black bean crunch wrap supreme. I don't want 15 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 3: to go looking cheap. 16 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: Good morning, Sweirl and welcome to the No Dungs Podcast 17 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: on the Athletic Network of Fine Network. It's Tuesday, April thirtieth, 18 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. I'm jay E Skeiths here in the 19 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: Classic Factory and alongside me, as always task. 20 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 2: Mellis podcast listeners. 21 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: This is for you next to him, it's the Bearded one, 22 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: a top shot boy trick Herbiehi, Hey you and over 23 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: yonder making the magic happen. Super producer JD. Hello, there 24 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: he is and here we are. Shout out to the 25 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: stream team. Hello to all the podcast listeners. Thanks for 26 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: joining us for the final day of April. We got 27 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 1: a lot of games to break down, got some news 28 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: a little bit later, and tweet in the night. And 29 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: let's start with Kitchener's finest Jamal Murray winning it for 30 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: the Nuggets in the final seconds to end the Lakers season. Yes, 31 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: it's a gentleman's sweep in the end as the Nuggets 32 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: take care business in five and my god, Jamal Murray, 33 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,919 Speaker 1: for the second time this series hits the game winner. 34 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: It was a gentleman's sweep. Some say it was the 35 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: closest gentleman's sweep ever in the history of the game. 36 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: This was just super fun all the way to the ending, 37 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: and not just the game winning shot. Four minutes left, 38 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: Jamal Murray dunked on Lebron Ja Oh yeah, and he 39 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: did the Lebron flex, the shoulder flex. He knew who 40 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: he dunked on. And that was the night after Kevin 41 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: Durant sort of got dunked on by Anthony Edwards as 42 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: as you said, this is Steph, Lebron and Katie ending 43 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: pretty early getting old sucks and we'll talk about Lebron 44 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: and if he's going to stay in LA. But after that, 45 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: you had a Reeve shot, then a Murray shot, then 46 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: a Reeves shot, who had a pretty good fourth quarter, 47 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: and then the Davish block of Yokic which was called 48 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: a foul, but it was overturned, which was the right overturn, 49 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: I thought. And then Reeves hit a three, then the 50 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: Yokic offensive board and score, then Lebron drive and score, 51 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: then Murray a three, then Lebron two free throws before 52 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 2: Murray hits that game winning shot, which was incredible that 53 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: he was injured coming into this game. 54 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 4: Question, that's right. 55 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 2: Michael Malone didn't know if he was gonna play, and 56 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 2: he kind of hinted at if you want to sit, 57 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: and you can sit, because we'll get this thing done. 58 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: But this was big to get other guys' rest, like 59 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: KCP who's injured, Reggie Jackson who also is injured at 60 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 2: helps and then that game winning shot. This is Jamal 61 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 2: Murray his best game. Oh yeah, the last game of 62 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: the series, Classic Jamal. 63 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: Here is for everybody on YouTube, showing you Jamal getting 64 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: to his spot. Really, you gotta help it the nail, 65 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: my man. Even Torrian Prince was trying to push him over. 66 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: It's like he's going that way, go up and step up. 67 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: But Jamal hits it and then yeah, they had to 68 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: heave it because they didn't have any time. I was 69 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: left Trey Kirby to advance the ball. 70 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 4: Didn't know would they have not overturned that call? 71 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: Right right? 72 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 4: I mean Jokic goes to the line to shoot two 73 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 4: free throws. That's the problem there. But if I'm not mistaken, 74 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 4: the Lakers they got the possession back, didn't score. It 75 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 4: would have been nice to have a timeout. Yeah, certainly 76 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 4: play three point six seconds. You can get a pretty 77 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 4: good look. But also you probably would have been down 78 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 4: by four at that point because Jokic would have likely 79 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 4: made at least one of the free throws probably too. 80 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 4: But he didn't have a great game. He threw several 81 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 4: like full court outlet passes to nobody. That was weird 82 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 4: to see a ton of turnovers. But man, Jamal Murray 83 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 4: strapped on the brown shoes and said, I am ready 84 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 4: to go. 85 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: You don't want me to play, I want me to play. 86 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 4: And he came out and he tested it right away 87 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 4: right more for nine from the field in the first quarter, 88 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 4: had some like step back shots that he likes to 89 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 4: get in that hat some where he was going to 90 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 4: the hoop as well. That really felt at the beginning like, oh, 91 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 4: he's not moving that well, but then he hit that 92 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 4: little baseline jumper off the bad leg at the end 93 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 4: of the second quarter, You're like, okay, it's on and 94 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 4: pop in here. 95 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: Nuggets. 96 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 4: I don't feel like they played great at all in 97 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 4: this series, and they still took down the Lakers in 98 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 4: five games. The health is definitely becoming an issue with 99 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 4: Murray's caff and CACP picking up an injury here and 100 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 4: he was limping around, but really gave the Nuggets a boost. 101 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 4: I fought in the second half and then Michael Porter 102 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 4: junior man, what a great third quarter for him. Four 103 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 4: for five from the field, twelve points. His only mistake 104 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 4: I think was when he threw an alley to Aaron 105 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 4: Gordony threw it eighty feet high something like that. Yeah, 106 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 4: not his strength. The loob but still fun to see. 107 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 4: To beat the Nuggets, you gotta play basically perfectly in 108 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 4: the fourth quarter, and the Lakers didn't do it. Giving 109 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 4: up those two offensive rebounds late. Those were backbreakers to me. 110 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 4: Yokic had to put back with a minute forty six left, 111 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 4: and then the Aaron Gordon offensive rebound minute thirteen, he 112 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 4: resets finds Jamal Murray. I thought Murray was gonna miss 113 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 4: the three because he hesitated, he sets his feet. Of 114 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 4: course he knocked it down because he's good. 115 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: That was I thought that was a monster offensive rebound. Yeah, 116 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: you said it like seventy five seconds left. You know, 117 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: they get the stop. There's the stop. Just get the ball. 118 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: That was Lebron under there, and Aaron Gordon he like 119 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: reached back with his right hand, tipped it to his left, 120 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: obviously caught it, and then Yea kicked it out to 121 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 1: Jamal Murray, who thought about it for a second. He's like, 122 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let it go. Hit that. That put them 123 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: up to Lebron. Then got to the line. You're right, tass, 124 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it was buckets being traded back and forth here. 125 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: But I thought that was a huge play from ag 126 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: and that's the thing throughout the series. It's like Jamal 127 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: had his moments like Yo Kich is the steady hand. 128 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: Like you said, Yokich had a bad game. What's the 129 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: what's the line the guy had in this one. 130 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 4: Game but not a double. 131 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: I agree with you, had a bad game, lot turnovers, 132 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: It wasn't his best, but you know he's the steady hand. 133 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: But then you have Jamal Murray with his moments, Michael 134 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: Porter Junior with his moments, Aaron Gordon's had his moments 135 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: in this series, like KCP. It's just like this is 136 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: what makes them the defending champ, so difficult to beat 137 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: them four times out of seven, like good luck to 138 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: now the Wolves get a chance out. I can't wait 139 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: for that series. But h man, Jamal just get like 140 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,559 Speaker 1: guys ice cold man. It is wild. All you're seeing 141 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: is like this guy's never been All Stars, never even 142 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: sniffed an All NBA team, and he just has all 143 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: these playoff moments under his belt, still being fairly young, 144 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: and of course the championship too, and more to come. Maybe. 145 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty two points in this one clearly his best 146 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: game of the series so far. He's been off shooting 147 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 2: the ball, but then at the end of games. Obviously 148 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 2: Game two, game winner, and then this one another game winner. 149 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 2: So it doesn't matter if he has three bad quarters. 150 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: Give him the ball at the end of the game 151 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: along with Jokic who he plays off of, and they're 152 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: gonna hit game winning shots. And I couldn't believe when 153 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: I read that in the entire league. This guy, this guy, 154 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: Jamal Murray, the fourth player since ninety seven when they 155 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: started tracking this play by plays with multiple go ahead 156 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: shots in the final five seconds of a game in 157 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: the same postseason. Only guy to do it twice in 158 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: the same series Lebron, Hito Turgulu and Robert or the 159 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: other one. 160 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: Right, those guys doing it in the same postseason. Yeah, 161 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: Jamalry doing it in the same series. Maybe we'll add 162 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: another or two in the next game in the next series, 163 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: excuse me. 164 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: Against the Wolves, I can't believe Hito came up, but 165 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: I guess he had a good playoff when they went 166 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: to the finals. 167 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, Rob Rory, that makes sense. Lebron 168 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,239 Speaker 1: always include him and these type of things. Ball Hito 169 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: Turkalou is the wild card there and Jamal Murray, now 170 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: that is that is nuts when you look at these 171 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: all these games these two teams played, though it usually 172 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: did come down sort of to the clutch. Even if 173 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: you go back to the twenty twenty three Western Conference Finals, 174 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: they played eleven clutch minutes in that series, Denver won 175 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: it by fifteen points. In the regular season, they played 176 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: seven clutch minutes in all their games. Denver won those 177 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: minutes by seventeen points in seven minutes. And then in 178 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: this series there were nine clutch minutes in the series, 179 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: a lot of them coming last night. Now Denver only 180 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: won those by three points, so the Lakers did a 181 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: better job. But they won all three games where it 182 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: obviously was in the clutch there because just were coming 183 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: through with big, big shots, and usually it's the two 184 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: man game. Like you said, Jokich and Murray. I can't 185 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: wait to see the matchups here in Wolves versus Nuggets here. 186 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: I know we can save that for later in the week, 187 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: but I don't know. I'm getting pumped about, like who's 188 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: on who here? And he can stop who, and like 189 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: there's a really good team. 190 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: So Saturday, it's Saturday, four days rest for the Nuggets, 191 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 2: which is nice for Jamal. You can take that bandage 192 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: he had off that he had off in pre game. 193 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 2: But they don't get here without Aaron Gordon. Aaron Gordon 194 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 2: was great, but Michael Porter Junior was even better. I mean, 195 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: Michael Porter Junior was awesome in this series. In this game, 196 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: he played forty six minutes and was a plus twelve 197 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: in a two point win. That's huge. 198 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: Do you remember when we were like this is years 199 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: ago now, but like, oh, can't play. 200 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 2: This guy now, he's gotten alone. 201 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: Doesn't trust him, like he's just like he gives up 202 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: everything on the defense man. That's like not even a 203 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: conversation anymore. 204 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 2: No, No, he's steady. Now, this is the best series 205 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: of his career. There's no doubt. I don't think they 206 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: win this in five games without him. I don't know 207 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: if they win it without him. I mean, he was 208 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 2: one of the guys that shot well from three. There 209 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: aren't many of them. Jokich was that guy, and along 210 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 2: with Michael Port Junior, who shoots a heck of a 211 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: lot more of them, twenty made threes in these five games, 212 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: forty nine percent from three. He was awesome. Yeah, you 213 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: could just rely on him, which he yeh didn't think 214 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: you could. Yeah, he's just gotten better. We're not talking 215 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: about John D. Porter here, We're talking about Michael Porter junior. 216 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 2: He's just the best version of himself. 217 00:09:55,200 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: He hits the overs too soon. Lebron's arming off the floor, 218 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: not storming off, but obviously making his way off the court. 219 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: No time for DAPs and handshakes or anything. You wants 220 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: to get back to his family he was talking about 221 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: in the postgame press camp conference. So now we look 222 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: at the Lakers here and look at their season and 223 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: them coming up short in the first round and once 224 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: again losing to the Nuggets, and where they go from 225 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: here and whether it even involves Lebron James. Do you 226 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: think he's played his last game in the in the 227 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: purple and goal? 228 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 4: I think carry Champion's friend thinks. So that's what I 229 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 4: saw that on Twitter yesterday. I don't know. 230 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: Lebron didn't threaten to retire this time. 231 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: That's true. 232 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 4: It is good. I guess, I don't know. I guess 233 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 4: he's looking for a gigantic contract three years, one hundred 234 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 4: and sixty million or thereabouts. The guy will be forty 235 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 4: in December. Had an incredibly healthy season, got an out there, 236 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 4: incredibly healthy season from Anthony Davis, and they finished in 237 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 4: the play in tournament again. They just keep finishing in 238 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 4: the play in tournament. But the Lakers, I can't see 239 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 4: just being like, all right, see you later, Lebron. If 240 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 4: he wants to come back, he'll be back at Darvinham. No, 241 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 4: you know he won't. I wonder if we fall out, 242 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 4: if we find out today, but he will be gone. 243 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, two seasons there with the Lakers. There's 244 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: there's the report up on the athletic I mean, you know, 245 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: as soon as they lose, it goes up there already. 246 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: They're pressing it about you know, it's like explaining the 247 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: fallout really or maybe the mistakes handmade or the you know, 248 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: the hand he was dealt at times too. Do you 249 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: believe darvn Ham probably coached his last game for really? 250 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: I don't know for sure. I think they have a 251 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: lot of things that have to do with the roster. 252 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: I think that's the thing that they're thinking about first 253 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: and foremost, and they can trade a bunch of things 254 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: come draft day, right before Lebron decides I've got a 255 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: player option, like days before he has to make the 256 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: decision if I'm going to take that fifty million dollars 257 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 2: player option for next season, or if he gets signed 258 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 2: to a three year extension, which would make him really 259 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: old when it comes to basketball world, but he would 260 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 2: be playing into his twenty fourth season if he signs 261 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 2: that three year extension, which would be an NBA record 262 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: that Vince Carter currently holds at twenty two. So it 263 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 2: looks like Lebron's gonna pass that, I guess. But they 264 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: have to get They just have to get better. And 265 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 2: the Tray Young rumors, I think those are hot, and 266 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: I think there's some juice behind those because of what's 267 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 2: going on with the Dave Lineahawks. They're already over the 268 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: luxury tax already now for next season, so they may 269 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: want to make a deal. Like yes, we talk about 270 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: the Lakers being this playing tournament team, the Hawk's are worse, 271 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 2: so they may want to make a move. So I 272 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 2: think that that's probably first and foremost. I know the 273 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: Darvin talk is hot, but also the injuries you have 274 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 2: played in an effect but anyway. 275 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: But they did and they didn't right. The injuries to 276 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: their role players did, yeah, but not to their main guys. 277 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Lebron had a healthy season. Ada the healthiest 278 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: season we've ever seen. Reeves played a lot. You know, 279 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: they're big main guys. I mean, I just think that 280 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: that to me gets into a bit of a weak 281 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: excuse where it's like, I know, you talked about ka 282 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: Vincent a lot, fair enough. They brought him in for 283 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: a reason. They thought they're gonna some steady point guard play. 284 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: But like their main guys were healthy, yes, and they 285 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: still finished in the play in it's a talented loaded West. 286 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the one part of the issue. And 287 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: then they put all their eggs in the in season 288 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: tournament basket. They are champions, that's right, and then they 289 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: fell apart after that. 290 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: Remember, look, should they have been better? Is what you're saying. 291 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 2: That's what Darvin should have done. 292 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 4: That's what all the Lakers seem to think. 293 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there was a lot of tory in prints starting. 294 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a mistake. 295 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: There was a lot of head scratching on some of 296 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,599 Speaker 1: the rotations. In the report from the Athletic encourage you 297 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: to go check it out. Quote. Throughout the series and 298 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: most of the season, team officials and players believe Hams 299 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: fluctuating rotations, game plans, and lack of adjustments led to 300 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: an underperforming group. It created discontent within the locker room, 301 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: which became palpable across the franchise. That's a small part 302 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: of a very long article of like Ham's maybe shortcomings 303 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: and TK you'd sound like or you said you don't 304 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: think he'll be there, he'll be the fall guy here. 305 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely, I mean how long did it take 306 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 4: for that article? They'll come out talking about decisions she 307 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 4: made when the Lakers had to like bring themselves back 308 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 4: against the Clippers, and they're like, we were making the calls. 309 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 4: The Lakers players were not. Darvin Ham didn't make sense 310 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 4: to go to the Western Conference Finals last year, come 311 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 4: back this season and go with a different starting lineup. 312 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 4: Didn't make sense at all to. 313 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 2: Do that, Douse. 314 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: They talked about continuity the whole. 315 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 4: Time, exactly, and here's the thing, task is right, they 316 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 4: do need to make some roster changes because Skeets, I'm 317 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 4: with you, the injuries to Gabe Vincent, Jared Vanderbilt, like 318 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 4: they're not helping. Those guys being out, you don't get 319 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 4: to build the continuity that you want. But also, those 320 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 4: guys aren't changing the world for you. They were available 321 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 4: for reasons you know, Jared Vanderbilt didn't even play in 322 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 4: the playoffs. I think he was supposed to be available 323 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 4: for last night's game, right, they said. Nonetheless, after a 324 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 4: bunch of these games, you heard different players talking, Ruey 325 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 4: Hotchamura among them, saying, we don't have the experience. We 326 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 4: haven't played enough games together. The Nuggets have played a 327 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 4: thousand games together. We've played one hundred, and now they're 328 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 4: going to completely flip the rest of the roster outside 329 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 4: of Lebron and Ad. So guess what you're doing again 330 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 4: next year? 331 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: Right, and then it'll be up to possibly a new 332 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: coach too. See if he can make Jack wow, JJ. 333 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: You think he'll get an interview? He probably will if 334 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: he wants. We'll see. So you don't think it'll be 335 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: long here, No, no tell darvingham is why. 336 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 4: Would you keep him? 337 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: Can't? 338 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? Canam exactly? The Lakers said they kept their seats 339 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 4: about the Nuggets this season, and then they want one 340 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 4: one and eight against them. 341 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you think he's chance he's there. 342 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: I mean it's slim, but yeah, I do think there's 343 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: a chance. Yeah. You know the articles that show what 344 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: happened throughout the season that come out right after. Aren't 345 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: necessarily what's going to happen. But they obviously had a 346 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: bad season, uh, and they did have issues. Tory and 347 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: Prince was much better off the bench and the whole 348 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: ruey Atchamoor was a starter in the playoffs last year, 349 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: but he came into this year coming off the bench. 350 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: Then he did get injured and they didn't figure it 351 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: out that he should have been. Yeah, he should have 352 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 2: been their number three. Got to go with threes and 353 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: they need another guard which would help. And Gay was 354 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: hurt Andy and Vanderbilt was hurt. But yeah, there's I mean, 355 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: there's some discomfort. The same article came out frankly about 356 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: Frank Vogel right away. Yeah, yeah, spots. 357 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: The only difference Ham's been there two years. Yeah, right, 358 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: Vocal one obviously had him. They got to the confon 359 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: finals last year. There's that too, And that was the 360 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: thing they're building off, that building off that they make 361 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: all these signings. You know, they believed. I mean in 362 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: that article, it's like now they maybe were naive, but 363 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: they're like they believe they had a better team than 364 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: a first round exit team, right, no matter who they 365 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: were playing. But we'll see, Yeah, maybe it won't be long. 366 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: Maybe it happens during the show or later this week, 367 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: and maybe Tess is right. 368 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. 369 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: It feels unlikely to me, especially if Lebron is sticking 370 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: around that Ham will still be there and giving it 371 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: another opportunity. Now those are like, I'm not saying he's 372 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: solely to blame. I think a lot of the roster 373 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: construction is perplexing. But those are two different questions. Is 374 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: he solely blame or is he also going to be gone? 375 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: He's probably gonna be gone. That's what they're gonna have 376 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: to do. That's what they're gonna do. Let's move on 377 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: th unless there's anything else from that game? Can I 378 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: ask you, did you wear a brown shirt because of 379 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: Jamal Murray's brown shoes mentioned? 380 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, a new balance. I balance every day with 381 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 2: the person's shoes that hit the game winning shot for sure. Yeah, 382 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 2: those are nice. I'm okay with them. I know I'm not. 383 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 4: I would be ashamed of myself if I'm Lebron James. 384 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 4: I get dunked on by Jamal Murray and I look down. 385 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 4: He's wearing trail running shoes. 386 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 2: They look like trail running shoes. I will say this 387 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 2: about a new balance. I was never a new balance 388 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 2: basketball shoe fan. No, no, but they've come a long way. 389 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 2: And he picks brown, I guess because it matches their 390 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 2: uniform color, sort of like their color scheme they got. 391 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 2: They're mountains. 392 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: They don't really brown, and the schemes mountains are brown. 393 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: If it's what you're saying. 394 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 2: They've got some brown. They have brown and blue and gold, 395 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 2: and nobody else wears brown shoes. 396 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 4: That's true. 397 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: She's the only one. 398 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of color waves for those 399 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: crazy James Harden shoes. Let's see those in brown when 400 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: you're sitting all those floaters. Synergy, senergy. Let's move on 401 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: to another team that will move on to the second round. 402 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: The thunder Roll. There it is, let's get it out 403 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: of the way. Jalen Williams SGA doing his part leading 404 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: OKAC to the ninety seven to eighty nine game four 405 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: victory sweeping the Pelicans. Honestly, just bottling up this team. 406 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: Over four games, the Pelicans scored ninety two points, ninety 407 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: two points, eighty five points, and eighty nine points in 408 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: the year twenty twenty four. That's pretty impressive defense. But 409 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: TK get started his thoughts on this game or okay, 410 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: see moving on and where the Pelicans go from here. 411 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 4: It's nice to have you at Jalen Williams, isn't it. 412 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 4: This guy was incredible in the fourth quarter. Shay rolled 413 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 4: his ankle at the end of the first quarter. He 414 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 4: takes a three in front of I think it was 415 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 4: the thunder bench. He kind of takes a step back, 416 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 4: lands on somebody's foot who's just sitting there, rolls it 417 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 4: a little gimpy. Playing throughout the rest of the game, 418 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 4: so he was kind of the decoy at the end, 419 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 4: and it was just Jadab taking him home, making plays defense, 420 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 4: hitting big threes. Josh Giddy hit three threes in the 421 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 4: fourth quarter. Oklahoma City went on an eighteen to two run. 422 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 4: New Orleans made one shot in six minutes, and that 423 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 4: was kind of the story of the series really for 424 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 4: New Orleans. Nineteen turnovers on the night, lou Dort was 425 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 4: inside of brandon Ingram and then anytime somebody would have 426 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 4: a chance at a layup, Chet Holmgren was there to 427 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 4: turn it away. I think he. I think the Pelicans 428 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 4: shot like nine for thirty five with Chet at the rim. 429 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 4: It looks bad sometimes when like Valentunis is running him over. 430 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 4: But you'll live with that, and Mark Degnold has talked 431 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 4: about that quite a bit. We're gonna live with our 432 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 4: guys getting pushed around because we'll make it back on 433 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 4: the other side. So, yeah, great stuff from the Thunder. 434 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 4: Their average age twenty three years in three hundred and 435 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 4: forty three days. According to ESPN, that is the youngest 436 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 4: team to win a playoff series since the Thunder back 437 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 4: in twenty eleven when they were making pizza roles even younger. 438 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 1: Now, this was wild from statudes, though statitudes as well. 439 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: Players age twenty five years or younger accounted for ninety 440 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,959 Speaker 1: nine point five percent of the Thunders points versus the Pelicans, 441 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: the highest such percentage of a playoff series in NBA history. 442 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: Do you know the only person on the roster to 443 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: scored two points in this series that was over the 444 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: age of twenty five? 445 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 2: Gordon? Didn't know it was Gordon. 446 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: It was not good, Gord. He was scoreless. 447 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 4: I saw the answer. 448 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a John Schumann favorite task when he Kenrich 449 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: he's twenty nine. I didn't think he was that old. 450 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: But it's old on this team. But unbelievable. Yeah, the 451 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: youngest team here to to move on in a series 452 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: and they sweep and it was mainly because of their defense. 453 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: You said that eighteen to two run in the fourth course, 454 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: this game was close. I mean it was pretty ugly, 455 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: but it was close for a majority of the game, 456 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: like no one could get separation until that eighteen to 457 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: two run. And it started was a turnover. That's how 458 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: that run started against the Thunder. And here's what I mean. 459 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: Pelicans were up five with eight and a half to go. 460 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,239 Speaker 1: I think JV had just had a nice score on 461 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: Chet sort of you know, fading baseline. It was a 462 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: nice basket. So the Thunder come down and then Jose 463 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: Alvarado he like pokes the ball away. I think it 464 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: was called a block in the box square. It was 465 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: like more of a steal. But they're going because the 466 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: ball like gets kicked to CJ. McCollum. It's a two 467 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: on one. It's McCollum and Nauseu Marshall and it's only 468 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: Jadub back. But Sga despite just getting his pocket picked, 469 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: despite having maybe a bit of a bomb ankle, he 470 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: hustles his ass back and Jadub just does an amazing job. 471 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: He doesn't get a block on the play, but he 472 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: just like makes it very difficult. He deters McCollum's lay up, 473 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: and then Sga because he didn't give up on anything, 474 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: he screened back, got the rebound. They go the other 475 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: way and they scored, and then of course they got 476 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: another stop and then they hit a three in transition 477 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: like that just suddenly to tie the game. It would 478 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: have been a seven point lead, which maybe would have 479 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: felt huge in this game for the Pelicans. But because 480 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: those two star guys Jadub and Sga, they not only 481 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: bring it offensively, they actually give a damn about defense. 482 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: They got back, they stopped it, and then that's sort 483 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: of like that was just the there and then they 484 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: man Jada just kept stepping into threes, throwing up the 485 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: three up on the forehead. So that was just impressive 486 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: to me, and I know Doug not talked about it 487 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: after the end. These guys played defense, They give it damn. 488 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. They play like old guys, even though they're super 489 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 2: duper young. Some of the guys that come off the bench, 490 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 2: like Cason Wallace had a zero in this game, but 491 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 2: his steels mattered a lot. And they play extremely hard 492 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 2: and they know the order of things. I don't have 493 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,479 Speaker 2: to shoot even though I freaking can, because Caseon Wallace can. Uh. 494 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 2: They are just set up to win. Even these games 495 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: that they didn't shoot all that well, they did not everybody, 496 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: you know, other than other than Jalen Williams, who was 497 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 2: awesome in that fourth Uh he had a beautiful drive 498 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 2: and then two threes and the last three with three 499 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: minutes left, Shake goes Alexander was running behind him and 500 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 2: smiling from. 501 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 4: Ear to ear big grin. 502 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 2: What was he smiling by? Just jailing? Wims sitting and 503 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 2: shot like all right, where we're doing this? I don't know. 504 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: I wanted I wanted that to be asked post game, 505 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: why were you smiling like that? It was just it 506 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 2: was just a goofy smut word or it landed for 507 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: to Jalen Williams again, who had a watra fourth quarter 508 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: along with Giddy with who hit three threes and was 509 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 2: part of the closing lineup. And that's the beauty of 510 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: this team. And when you start looking at who is 511 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 2: this team? Are they just these young guys that get 512 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 2: thrown out the end of games? Now you know who 513 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 2: you're four are going to be. You know that your 514 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 2: wings are gonna be Jayalen Williams and Loud Dort. You 515 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 2: know you're small who he isn't small as Shay and 516 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 2: your biggest chet holgrin. But the fifth guy, it could 517 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 2: be Giddy when he's awesome like this and when he 518 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 2: really made a different good series, Yeah he did. It 519 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 2: could be Aaron Wiggins, Yep, for sure. It could be 520 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 2: Cason Wallace, It could be Jalen Williams, probably not, the 521 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 2: other Jaalenves probably not. But there's just options. And this team, Yeah, 522 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: they won an ugly game. That's what good playoff teams do. 523 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: True, Yeah, that's true. I wonder if Brandon Ingram woke 524 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: up this morning and had a big sire relief that 525 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: he doesn't have to see loud Dort again, doesn't have 526 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: to go back in the Dorchard chamber for another game 527 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: again coming in not one hundred percent, I'll give him that, 528 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: but holy crap, last night he missed twelve or fourteen shots. 529 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: He only had eight points. In the series. Ingram averaged 530 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: just fourteen point three points per game, shot nineteen to 531 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: fifty five. He'll he made two three pointers over the 532 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: four games. Dort was a menace. He was all over him. 533 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: So he's got to feel at least happy this morning. 534 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: They doesn't have to see Lou Dort again at least 535 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: this postseason. 536 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 4: Pretty bad matchup for Ingram considering he doesn't have the 537 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 4: burst that he could have if he's completely healthy, because 538 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 4: he obviously doesn't have the strength to get off Dort. 539 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 4: There was that possession late in the game where I 540 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 4: guess Ingram is trying to post up on the right 541 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 4: block and Dort just stands him up, stands him, up, 542 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 4: stands him up. Ingram is like panicking. He just does 543 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 4: like a backwards shot at the rim. 544 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 2: It looked, it looked really bad. 545 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 4: He looked completely out of sorts for basically the entirety 546 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 4: of this series. And I wonder if that is the 547 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 4: last game we've seen him play as a New Orleans 548 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 4: Pelican because this team has had a really strange run. 549 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 4: They've made the play in tournament the last three years. 550 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 4: Two of them they went out in the first round. 551 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 4: The other year they didn't even make it. How many 552 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 4: times are you gonna keep doing this? You got to 553 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 4: have a more reliable guy. When Zion is your number 554 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 4: one guy, you gotta have somebody who can play seventy 555 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 4: five games a season and actually carry the team when 556 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 4: he's out, because Ingram can't do it. CJ. McCollum can't 557 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,719 Speaker 4: do it, even though he was fair last night. That's 558 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 4: probably his best game the series. But things need to 559 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 4: change in New Orleans. 560 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, possible. Yeah, it's a shame that the best game 561 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 2: for teams that don't often advance are the last game 562 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: when things are just kind of coming to an end. 563 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 2: And CJ McCollum, who they paid a lot for in 564 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 2: David Griffin, I'm sure is looking up that roster and 565 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 2: regretting some things or looking at it and saying, I 566 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 2: I gotta figure things out obviously, as you said. And 567 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: brandon Ingram, Yeah, he was shut down by Ludor Shay 568 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 2: had a great block on him. Maybe he watched that 569 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 2: first TNT game where they said that Derek White had 570 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 2: the most blocks for a guard this season. 571 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: I was shocked by that. 572 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 2: It's totally true, one point two blocks, but because I 573 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: thought it was Shay at six y six, but he 574 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 2: had that big one. But yeah, these guys just play 575 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 2: like their vets. Their postgame interview where they do the 576 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 2: barking was even like sort of low key. They didn't 577 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: do it. They didn't go after it because they're like, okay, 578 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: you know we've done this before. We're vets a dog barking. 579 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 2: So they just were chill about it. 580 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,719 Speaker 1: They did at least give the interview to the national 581 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: broadcast last did they all huddled around and gallow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 582 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: they're feeling good and like maybe they maybe SGA was 583 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: smiling so much because that one really put the game 584 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: away and not put the series away, and that means 585 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: more more rest. Despite being young, you know, you're in 586 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: the playoffs, there's these these tweaks of ankles and knees 587 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: and maybe backs whatever, the more rest you're gonna get 588 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: here between the next series, gearing up to see whether 589 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: you're gonna play the Clippers or Mavericks. That one feels 590 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: like it's going to go the distance. It just has 591 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: a weird vibe about it, right, it feels like it's 592 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: going seven. That's good for it's good for the thunder. Yeah, 593 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: so they'll be feeling good going into that. 594 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 2: It wasn't eleven point lead. When Jalen Williams hit that 595 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 2: three didn't feel like an eleven point I don't know why. 596 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 4: They stretched it out a ton. 597 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 2: It was closed for a while. 598 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, they games are hard, and the Pelicans played really hard. 599 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 4: Did they just could not make a shot. I think 600 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 4: they were eight for thirty four from three. They shot 601 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 4: under thirty percent from three for the season or for 602 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 4: the series here, they just didn't have enough scoring. 603 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you like that? 604 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 4: It's gonna be tougher for the or for the Thunder 605 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 4: and round two playing against the veteran team that. I mean, 606 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 4: who knows what kind of health we're going to be 607 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 4: talking about. Luca's limping around, Kawhi Leonard is not playing, 608 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 4: but they're at least veteran teams. Yeah, and most likely 609 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 4: coming in with one of their top guys. 610 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't think I mean, look, I'm not 611 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: going on a limb. I don't think the Thunder are 612 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 1: sweeping the Pelicans here. Zion Williamson is playing. I just 613 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: don't believe that he's that important. He's their point guard 614 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: and we saw what he did for a fairly healthy season. 615 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: It's it's probably I would still pick Okasey to have 616 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: won that series, but I bet it's a lot closer, 617 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: and it's maybe going six or seven In the end though, 618 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: Nosion they win four, so after you know that little 619 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: Game one scare where they should have lost really. 620 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: Right, So that's the end of it. It's a shame. 621 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: It's a shame for New Orleans. Did you like their floor? 622 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 2: I know you don't like brown shoes. Did you like 623 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 2: the new black new for this series. Yeah, for the 624 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 2: first time, putting gelkans skelekins. Is that what they're called. 625 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what they're going with. 626 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 4: I liked it. 627 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: I love it. 628 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 4: I think it's a cool look. I also liked that 629 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 4: they brought Manny Fresh out in the fourth corner. It 630 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 4: didn't work that Noday. I think they were like minus thirteen. 631 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: After that they tried the. 632 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 4: Finder saw that like, okay, we will get our roll on. 633 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: Thank you thunder Uls. Yeah, I'll see her many Fresh. 634 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 2: The halftime show is good as well. The instruments, ye group, Yes, yeah, 635 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 2: that's see. 636 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. The final game from last night, you sort of 637 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: slipped it in there. Derek White. Huge game from Derek 638 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: White thirty eight points as the Celtics beat the Heat 639 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: one two eighty eight to take Game four. They're up 640 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: three to one. Career high thirty eight from Derek White 641 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty six from the field, eight three pointers 642 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: from this guy, fifteen attempts, letting it rip, and really 643 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: in a game where nobody could find a rhythm sort 644 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: of early especially, it was all Derek. It's sixteen first 645 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: quarter points. Now the Celtics take a three one lead. 646 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: They'll look to close this out a little bit later 647 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: in the week. But there were some injuries too here 648 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: for Boston. I don't know if you want to start there. 649 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: The most notable one the Kristaps porzingis injury where he 650 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: tweaked something catching a pass in the second quarter there, 651 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: and the team is saying it's a right calf tightness. 652 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: I think Wojes was saying. Early indications are that he 653 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: didn't sustain an Achilles' tendon injury, so that's good. But look, 654 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: calf injuries have kept guys out. We're seeing that right 655 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: now with Giannis. So this could be a could be 656 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: a huge, huge blow of course to the Celtics, not 657 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: for this series, but moving forward in their championship aspirations. 658 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 4: To me, this is the biggest thing that happened. Yeah, 659 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 4: on courts last night. Porzingis going down and we've had 660 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 4: a really bad run for Calves lately with Giannis and 661 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 4: then Porzingis and then even Murray is dealing with the 662 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 4: same thing. A Grade one strain one to two weeks, 663 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 4: that's fine, you can live with that. Yeah, if it's 664 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 4: if you're the Celtic, it's been a grade two is 665 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 4: more like three to six weeks. And if you're comparing 666 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 4: it to like Jannis, that guy hasn't played for three 667 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 4: weeks and no return in sight at this point that 668 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 4: it said, Christaps did say good w tonight, d White 669 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 4: a special thanks for all the support, will be good 670 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 4: fleximoji flex emoji. You're feeling confident that he'll be back 671 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 4: right and at the very least, at least the Celtics 672 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 4: still have Al Horford, who is still good. Got the 673 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 4: start in the second half of this one. Played twenty 674 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 4: minutes in the second half, five points, six rebounds, a 675 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,479 Speaker 4: couple of sists. He does give you the stretch that 676 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 4: Porzingis does as a forty three point shooter, but he 677 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 4: doesn't beat switches quite in the same way that Porzingis does. 678 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 4: You're not throwing it to Al Horford in the post 679 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 4: anymore of these days. Twenty one and four, the Celtics 680 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 4: went without Porzingis this season, so they can win without him, 681 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 4: and I think they can definitely beat the Cavs or 682 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 4: the Magic in the next round without Porzingis, So maybe 683 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 4: he gets enough time to rest between the end of 684 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 4: this series and that next one. 685 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, they do have death. As you said, Al Horford, 686 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,239 Speaker 2: there was a reason they win god Xavier Tillman at 687 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 2: the trade deadline, just to have guys, to have bodies 688 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 2: along with Luke Cornette to the our guys, and as 689 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 2: you said, will be good in his tweet, I think 690 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 2: is a good sign. 691 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: He was in a walking boot, but that's you know, 692 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: they generally do that same. 693 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 2: And they didn't after he went out. They didn't say 694 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: he's out. They said he's doubtful to return, which is 695 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 2: better than no chance in hell that he's coming back. 696 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: And actually he had right calf tightness a little bit earlier. 697 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: There's something going on with his other leg before that play, 698 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 2: a little bit earlier in the game, and then the 699 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: left one, So it was more like a pair zingis 700 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 2: to me, pair of zings to those legs, I thought, 701 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 2: in both one and both of them, so obviously a 702 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 2: bet sign. Then he needed to go sit and that 703 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: was fine because that other guy, I have to get 704 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 2: a Derek White game like that, which he had eight 705 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 2: points and fifty eight seconds in that first quarter. It 706 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 2: was just bank bank bank, and it was like the 707 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 2: game before when obviously he didn't score nearly as much 708 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 2: in Game three, but he had twelve points in a 709 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 2: four minute stretch. He was just he was just flying. 710 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 2: I mean, he was stepping into threes. There was two 711 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 2: big dunks in the third quarter where he was flying 712 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 2: through the lane. 713 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 4: Thirty freaking points. 714 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: That to me, I'm having some visions of the NBA Finals. 715 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: To see this guy in the finals. It reminded me 716 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 2: of Aaron Gordon leading his team in scoring in Game 717 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 2: four of the NBA Finals over Jamal and Jokic when 718 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 2: he was awesome and he had twenty seven. So these 719 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 2: are the things that, like we were just talking about 720 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 2: the Denver NUS, that's what championship teams do. And this 721 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 2: guy's obviously in his prime. He's looking great. 722 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: And those two games in Miami, the Celtics made an 723 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: effort to take away the three pointers as much as 724 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,959 Speaker 1: possible from Miami. They only shot sixty one threes in 725 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: Games three and four, I'm putting those two games together. 726 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: It's actually not a lot. And unsurprisingly these are games 727 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: where the Heat lose both and are held below ninety 728 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: points in both as well. So Celtics after that little 729 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: scaring Game two, take care of business in Miami Game five. 730 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: Like I said later this week, they'll try and close 731 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: it out. There was another injury in this game, maybe 732 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: not as notable as the porzingis, but it's Tatum and 733 00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: I wanted to get your take on this, especially stan 734 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: Man Gundy on the call and all the comments he 735 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: had on this, but we'll show it to you. It's 736 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, so it's after a foul on 737 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: the floor there and Tatum's gonna do the thing where 738 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: he's like, well, I'm gonna get up a practice shot 739 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: and BAM's like, no, you're not. I'm gonna sort of 740 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: challenge you. And when he does, he steps under Tatum's 741 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: feet on the on the contest and Tatum rolls his 742 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: ankle and then we have a lengthy review on this, 743 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: and this is where stan Van Gundy is so sharing 744 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: all his thoughts on this, but he is assessed Bam 745 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: is with a flagrant one and I guess Horford got 746 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: a tech within all of this as well. But Okay, 747 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: on one hand, this was a little ironic that it 748 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: happened to the Celtics, because wasn't Joe Mozilla's whole thing 749 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: that we let no practice shots up, we keep playing 750 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: through coaches included. But yes, then then you know, Bam 751 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: does this and he gets underneath it but stands like basically, 752 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: Stan Maan Gundy is like, the play's. 753 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 4: Over, sorry, buddy, like, don't take a shot, don't take 754 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 4: a shot? 755 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: What did you think of that? You know a lot 756 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: of people, obviously Celtics fans quite upset with that. He 757 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: even said, I'm showing my bias here with how Boston 758 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: has played here in Miami. But what do you think? 759 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 4: I didn't know you could get a flagrant after the play. 760 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 4: That was the first thing to me. I was like, 761 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 4: what's that's it? 762 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: Like? 763 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 4: I mean, odd, Yeah, that's weird. Yeah, that was just 764 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 4: weird that it happened. I guess the Celtics can't get 765 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 4: too mad at it because, like you're saying, Joe Mizula 766 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 4: does it, you know, but man, Stan Van Gundy, what 767 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 4: a weird game I thought from this guy. I think 768 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 4: he thinks the Heat won. He said he's showing his bias. 769 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 4: Why does he have bias for the Heat he coached 770 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 4: for the Heat, or is it more so that he's 771 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 4: talking trash to his brother, Jeff Fan Gundy, who helps 772 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 4: out with the Celtics. I don't know, Yeah, but it 773 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 4: was very weird the way he was talking about the 774 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 4: Celtics in this game, being up by twenty and talking 775 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 4: about how poorly they're playing. 776 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, they did give up open looks. 777 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 4: The Heat missed a lot of open looks, but Boston 778 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 4: was still dominating. I just thought odd stuff from stan 779 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 4: Van Gundy. But players take shots after the whistle all 780 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 4: the time. Yeah, nobody ever gets hurt. 781 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: I think he's a little pissed being on the call 782 00:34:59,360 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: it'll blow out. 783 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was saying that the whole first half. He 784 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 2: was saying that the self explayed way better defense in 785 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 2: Game three, and he was kind of criticizing them just 786 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 2: not going out to the three point shooters. So that's 787 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 2: why he kept saying they ain't playing as good as 788 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 2: they did in Game three as far as the shot 789 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 2: goes after the whistle and all that. The flagrant travel 790 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 2: was because Bam was in his landing spot. Yeah, and 791 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 2: so that's. 792 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: But then the counter is like, there's no play, it's 793 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: not a play. Yeah, yeah, yeah, does the land was 794 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: allowed to go away? Does the landing spot go away 795 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: after there's you know, the whistle is dead? 796 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 2: It's it is weird. When Joe Mozula did this earlier 797 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 2: in the season, who was it was a player? He 798 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 2: was Kevin Durano, somebody who said you could injure a guy, 799 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 2: you could literally. 800 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: We talked about it on the show. We thought, maybe 801 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: the NBA is going to make a rule that coaches 802 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: can't close out on on shooters because unfortunately, someone might 803 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: get injured. 804 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 2: And Joe Mozula said that they were going to make that. 805 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 2: They contacted him days later and he said, there is 806 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 2: going to be a rule. Now it hasn't happened. Hasn't happened, 807 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 2: and a coach contesting a shot hasn't happened since either. 808 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 2: But this also is like a deep three, So Tatum 809 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 2: kind of jumps a little forward. If you want to 810 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 2: get I'll frickin take oh. 811 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: And I don't think Bam was like intentionally trying to 812 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: hurt Tatum. No, he was just like, no, you're not 813 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 1: getting up a practice shot and steps up and steps 814 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: up and yeah, Tatum goes forward and then tweaked it. 815 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: I don't think it's anything serious from what we've seen, Like, 816 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: I don't think Tatum is going to miss the next 817 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: game like a monster dunk later. Yeah that's right. 818 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I say that for you gotta go KG style. 819 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 4: Just got to block it at the rim, you know, 820 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 4: shoot to three and knock it out before it goes in. 821 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 2: I guess your hands up on those rims. 822 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: Hurt your finger, hurt a finger? Catch it there. Uh So, anyway, 823 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: the Celtics can advance to the second round on Wednesday 824 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: night in Game five, and the winner of Boston Miami 825 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: will take on Cleveland or Orlando in the semifinals. But 826 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: that's not going to end till at least Friday. So 827 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: you wonder, sort of like we saw in these other 828 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: series in the West there, Game five was Boston like, 829 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: try and put them away, end it and maybe you 830 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 1: get a little bit more, especially when you've got KP 831 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: with his injury and you know whatever. A lot of 832 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: tweaked ankles. 833 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 4: There's a lot of tweaked ankles. There's a lot of 834 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 4: caps last night ankles yes, we're going down like crazy. 835 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 2: I mean, New Balance has got to make some high cuts, 836 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 2: mid cuts. Everybody's wearing low cuts. 837 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, bring back the Matt Bonnard New Balance because we're 838 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 4: very high cut ankle. You know, you don't jump. It helps. 839 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 4: You're gonna get a great effort from the Heat. I 840 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 4: do believe in game five. Close out games are super hard, 841 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 4: and the Heat have played well against the Celtics in 842 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:45,280 Speaker 4: the past. 843 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 2: Yep. 844 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 4: But they're just gonna have to make more threes because 845 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 4: they made twenty three in their win and they've made 846 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,800 Speaker 4: thirty in the other games. 847 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: Right total, Yeah, wow, all right, that's uh. Last night's 848 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: three games, two of them done. But we got to 849 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: find out what happens to game five there between the 850 00:37:58,640 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: Celtics and the Heat. 851 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 4: Let's play a little. 852 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: Is this news? Why not? It's been a while. I 853 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: could have just given you the headlines and we can 854 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: just talk about them. Bring I want you to tell 855 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: me whether or not they're actually newsworthy. Play along here 856 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: in the stream team and podcast listeners. First one from ESPN, 857 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: Bradley Beal says, sons in different position with better health? 858 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: Is this news? TK? You get started here? 859 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 4: Betterhelp? 860 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 2: Yeah? 861 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 4: Betterhealth dot com better health promo code Sons in four. 862 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 4: Is this news? No, this is not news. I don't 863 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 4: think And Bradley Beal is probably right. The Sons would 864 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 4: be better if they had great health from all three 865 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 4: of their guys on the court. When all three of 866 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 4: them played, they played at a fifty two win pace. 867 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,359 Speaker 4: That would be fourth in the Western Conference. And that's 868 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 4: about where they feel. Somewhere between four and six. That 869 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 4: seems like where the Sons are likely landing. But I 870 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 4: also don't know how much better health they're actually going 871 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 4: to be able to get. Kevin durantlay seventy five games 872 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 4: this season. That's his most since twenty nineteen. Devin Booker 873 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 4: played sixty eight games this season. That's tied for his 874 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 4: most since twenty twenty. Bradley Beal played fifty three games. 875 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,919 Speaker 4: That's not very many, no, but it's his most since 876 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 4: twenty twenty one. Usip Nerkis played seventy six games. That's 877 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 4: his most since twenty eighteen. Grayson Allen played seventy five games, 878 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 4: though was hurt in the playoffs. Still seventy five games, 879 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 4: it's the most of his career. They actually had great 880 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 4: health for their starters. They just happened to not always 881 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 4: line up. It always felt like there was one guy out, 882 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 4: somebody would come back, the other guy gets hurt. That 883 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,720 Speaker 4: definitely throws you behind the eight ball. But this seems 884 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 4: like a convenient excuse for a team that just wasn't 885 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 4: good enough and not deep enough at all. 886 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and last I checked, the Big three did play 887 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: in the postseason against the Wolves, and they weren't good 888 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 1: They weren't good enough. No, No, that's the thing. Those guys, 889 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 1: bial Booker, Durant, they were a minus fifty one when 890 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: they shared the floor in the four game suite. They 891 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: died that. I mean, we can get in all the 892 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: role players. So I got the construction at all. It's 893 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: Vogels fault, but it's those guys. They got out class 894 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: by Aunt and Go and obviously Cat at times like 895 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 1: those guys. They played better. They did, and they have 896 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,879 Speaker 1: a better team Minnesota. But still, when your big three 897 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 1: is not coming through and it's not even close to 898 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: even there when they're out there, then you're in trouble 899 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:12,760 Speaker 1: and you're gonna get swept. 900 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and this series started poorly. Dun Booker got in 901 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 2: foul trouble. They never got into a flow. Maybe they 902 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 2: get into a flow if they play eighty games together. 903 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 2: I do buy that what Bradley Beal is saying is 904 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 2: technically logically correct. It is correct. But Bradley Beal's health 905 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 2: has been a worry, and I was wrong coming into 906 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 2: the season. I thought he would just get healthier, and 907 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 2: maybe he knows that I do have to be healthier, 908 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,240 Speaker 2: and that is my job literally this this off season 909 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 2: to somehow strengthen his back, which comes up every freaking year, 910 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 2: it really does. 911 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, he came into the season with lower back. 912 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why he missed so many games. And yeah, 913 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 2: Katie's number is obviously a great number. And yeah they 914 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 2: literally if they had this these games played together, and 915 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 2: Booker gets into foul trouble in Game one, maybe they somehow, 916 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 2: some way can fight that and know that they should 917 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 2: be way better like they were in Game four. Game 918 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 2: four was their best game, their only game where they 919 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,720 Speaker 2: had a close game in this series. So this team, 920 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 2: you know, logically, looking at it, obviously it's it ain't 921 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 2: good four through twelve or five through twelve or whatever. 922 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 2: It's not built all that well. But their top three 923 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 2: is so freaking good. So you know, looking at the 924 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 2: teams that just advance, like OKAC and Minnesota, even Boston, 925 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 2: who's going to advance? Games played together matters. Those teams 926 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 2: are freaking good. Denver, those teams are freaking good. Philadelphia 927 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 2: is the exact opposite. And you'd heard all season not 928 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:47,399 Speaker 2: in a good spot, not perfect. So yeah, Bial is right. 929 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 2: This is news for him, I guess because going to 930 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 2: the offseason, I think that's what his focus has to be. 931 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 2: I am really interested to see what James Jones and 932 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 2: Matti Shbia, probably who has the overhand of everything that happens, 933 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,240 Speaker 2: is going to do because as I brought up yesterday, 934 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 2: they can't put salaries together to make a big trade. 935 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 2: And will they try one of these monster deals in 936 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 2: Durant or Booker Who's there's rumors that he wants to 937 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 2: be in New York nickas Stephen A. Smith said, I 938 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,959 Speaker 2: mean that seems very far fetched. Or even this Grace 939 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 2: and Allen contract, that is something that other teams would want, right, 940 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 2: So maybe they go get a defensive, strong minded guy 941 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 2: to be in that starting lineup. Maybe perhaps I don't know, 942 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 2: but I did enjoy the Bradley Beal interview. It was 943 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,919 Speaker 2: a funny start to the interview. Yeah, yeah, because because 944 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,399 Speaker 2: he knows. After Game three, he said, I've never been 945 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 2: swept in my life. I'll be damned if that happens. 946 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 2: So he sat down, he said, I'll be damned if 947 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 2: that happens. Good start, a good start, because you know 948 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 2: you got Yeah, that was funny. 949 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, you're right. The back tightness he came 950 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: in with. Then he had nankel spray, and then he 951 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,120 Speaker 1: had hamstring strained. Then he had a broken nose. He's 952 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 1: got a concussion, like he had a he had a 953 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 1: season from hell, got b Bradley Beal, but he also 954 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: he had what eighteen points per game in the regular 955 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 1: season for the Suns, and it got worse in the postseason. 956 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: Like that went down. Like he's getting close to not 957 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 1: being in the Big three, you know, like he's only 958 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 1: in the Big three because of contract. If we're being honest, 959 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: he didn't play like a guy that's in the Big three. 960 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 1: So we'll see. Maybe just being healthy helps him and 961 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 1: we'll see what they do. I think Ishbia and James 962 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: Jones are going to talk to the media tomorrow. I 963 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,839 Speaker 1: think they're scheduled for Wednesday, And it was really only 964 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 1: Beal and there was someone else? Was it Grayson Allen 965 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,280 Speaker 1: that spoke to the media yesterday, But not your Kadi's 966 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,919 Speaker 1: and not your Bookers. In other news, let's go overseas here, 967 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,800 Speaker 1: NBA dot com says the Pacers to face the Spurs 968 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,280 Speaker 1: in Paris for two regular season games in January twenty 969 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 1: twenty five. Tasmellis, is this news. 970 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 2: You'd better believe it. It is great news for French 971 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 2: basketball fans to see that guy uh mister come out 972 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 2: to his country. Now. Is it good news because the 973 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 2: Pacers are there. I don't know, it's it's I guess it's. 974 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 2: It's a far better game than they had this year 975 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 2: with the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Brooklyn Nets there they 976 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 2: played in Paris. Not as good as having I'm a 977 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 2: competent out and to get in two games as well. 978 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 2: This year was just a one game. As for the Pacers, yeah, 979 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 2: I bring them up because I mean there's no French players. 980 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 2: Andrew Nemhart is Canadian. Maybe he can speak a little French. 981 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 2: Maybe they'll ask him some French questions. Ben Matthews forgot 982 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 2: a little bit right. Yeah, he does a good call. 983 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 2: I forgot about that because he's not freaking playing right now, 984 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 2: which is really weird. I'll be back, but a good side, 985 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 2: good good. What are they going to do other than 986 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,799 Speaker 2: the regular season games? They always have these random events. Yeah, 987 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 2: I don't know what they're gonna be. 988 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 1: Wenby's going to be a busy man that week. I'm 989 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:59,320 Speaker 1: sure a lot of interviews and whatever activations, whatever he's doing. 990 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 1: But this is good that we're sending the Pacers and 991 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:06,360 Speaker 1: Spurs late January. I guess this is bad for Indiana 992 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: Pacers fans that live in their home state. You don't 993 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 1: get to see Wemby. 994 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 4: They shouldn't do this with an Eastern Conference team. It 995 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 4: should be the same conference. 996 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 1: Right, right, so you at least have the one option 997 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 1: to see the Wembama play in your own barn. Yeah 998 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: that's fair. 999 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 4: What about all those Spurs fans? I want to see 1000 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 4: Tyreese Halliburton then't cant to see him either. I think 1001 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 4: it's worse for Pacers fans personally. 1002 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, I wonder if the NBA you just make 1003 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 2: you one game, sorry, you make you a one game 1004 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 2: and you pick whose home game it is, right, Like 1005 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,359 Speaker 2: that's what they did this They could Yeah, yeah, so 1006 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,439 Speaker 2: you could have. But the two games, yeah, just takes 1007 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 2: it away, takes it off the schedule. 1008 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 4: It tas it completely off the schedule. But let's see 1009 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 4: twenty twenty they played in Paris, twenty twenty three, they 1010 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 4: played in Paris, twenty twenty four they played in Paris, 1011 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 4: and then next year do you think Wemby's going to 1012 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 4: play one to two games in Paris for the entirety 1013 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,439 Speaker 4: of his career. Interesting, they can just keep going back, 1014 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 4: Like why would you change it? 1015 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. They want the international crowds to be 1016 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 2: of course into it, and to expand in the continent 1017 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 2: as well, which would happen as well. Yeah, you know, 1018 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 2: the more people will be watching via their apps that 1019 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 2: will get to her. 1020 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 1: I just wonder if the organization, the San Antonio spurs 1021 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 1: like at some point, okay, that's enough, you know, like 1022 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 1: see there's a lot of logistics here and you'll see 1023 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 1: how it goes. Maybe they don't play well over there 1024 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 1: because again he's pulled in every direction or whatever, the 1025 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,359 Speaker 1: you know, the travel and all that. Like we'll see 1026 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 1: maybe they kick ass and they're like, yeah, we'll go back. 1027 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 1: We love it over there. 1028 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 4: We never do. 1029 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 2: But It's true that the pulling in direction stinks for 1030 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 2: these guys. At times they get tired. It happened to 1031 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 2: Wemba this year, and Wenby wasn't even an All Star 1032 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 2: this year. So next year, when he will be an 1033 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 2: All Star, he's going to be pulled everywhere. 1034 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,839 Speaker 1: Isn't the next number one pick of the upcoming draft? 1035 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,760 Speaker 1: Isn't a French guy too? Look at a chance? Yeah 1036 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:47,720 Speaker 1: he's gonna be top. 1037 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 4: Three or what any Yeah sometuff like that. 1038 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 1: So well, we have no shortage of French guys to 1039 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: send over there, all right. So Paris Games twenty twenty five, 1040 00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: late January. Next headline, final headline from the Wall Street Journal, 1041 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 1: though I could have picked from the Athletic, could have 1042 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,360 Speaker 1: picked from Awful Announcing. There was a lot on this yesterday, 1043 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 1: but I'll go with the Wall Street Journal. NBC prepares 1044 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: two point five billion a year bid to pluck that 1045 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:18,400 Speaker 1: it writes from TNT. Yink, give me that Trey Kirby. 1046 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:19,320 Speaker 1: Is this news? 1047 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 4: Pluck watch? I mean, this is big time news. If 1048 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,320 Speaker 4: TNT loses the NBA, that's huge news. 1049 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:26,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1050 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 4: Hard to imagine an NBA without TNT, though we have 1051 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 4: seen it because we're old. Yeah, and it's a real 1052 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:34,799 Speaker 4: catch twenty two for us. Which do you like more, 1053 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 4: Roundball Rocker Inside the NBA? 1054 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 1: Both great? 1055 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 4: Wow, I like Inside the NBA more, I think so. 1056 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1057 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 4: You can listen to Roundball rock anytime you want. 1058 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:43,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's in a commercial right now with Kevin Hart. 1059 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 4: Oh, it is a great song. 1060 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 1: Good. 1061 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 4: But you can see what the NBA would be especially 1062 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 4: interested in NBC because they're a broadcast network that is 1063 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 4: huge for visibility. That's something we don't really talk about 1064 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,760 Speaker 4: when it comes to NBA ratings in the nineties compared 1065 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 4: to today. You can watch them very easily in the 1066 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,880 Speaker 4: nineties when we had eleven channels. I don't know, we 1067 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 4: probably like forty channels back then, but it was a 1068 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 4: big deal and they were on every Sunday. And I 1069 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 4: mean it's still the case. They switched to ABC eventually. 1070 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:16,919 Speaker 4: But from a visibility standpoint, it's easy to watch NBC. 1071 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,280 Speaker 4: It's not always easy to watch TNT. 1072 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah, And I wonder if that's even more of 1073 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 2: a factor because we know Amazon high highly highly highly 1074 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 2: likely will have NBA rights, the streaming rights, for sure, 1075 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,360 Speaker 2: they do not have a broadcast channel, and so maybe 1076 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 2: that plays into not having TNT, which would be surprising 1077 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 2: because it's definitely going to es Ben is back, who 1078 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,839 Speaker 2: also has ABC. Amazon likely to be the other one 1079 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 2: on Thursday nights when Amazon has games on the NFL 1080 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 2: as well. So you see somebody that sees as an 1081 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 2: NFL fan and sees a dud of a football game, Well, 1082 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 2: there's a basketball game on, so I'm sure that helps. 1083 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 2: This is interesting because do you want to be watching 1084 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 2: NBC the channel or Cock And do you like the 1085 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 2: Peacock better than the TNT app because that's become a 1086 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 2: good experience and they have strong sports lineups. You know, 1087 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 2: reading these articles will remind me, Oh yeah, Ahl is here, 1088 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 2: March Madness and NASCAR, and so. 1089 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,840 Speaker 1: You're saying T and T has. 1090 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 2: Yes, they have those already, so it's a battle and 1091 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,280 Speaker 2: this might just be a money play. 1092 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I believe and that TNT has the right 1093 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 1: to match this too. Whatever this software is, if it's real, 1094 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a huge increase, like duh, we 1095 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 1: knew that was going to happen, Like this is like 1096 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 1: double of what TNT pays now per year. It's like 1097 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 1: one point two billion I think they pay now. So 1098 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 1: if this is real, this two point five Again, TNT 1099 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:40,880 Speaker 1: can decide if they want to match up. The other 1100 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:45,880 Speaker 1: part is, you know it's possible that the NBA goes 1101 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,399 Speaker 1: with four carriers here, right, we all believe Amazon will 1102 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 1: be the streaming Okay, there's that. We know ESPN is 1103 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,640 Speaker 1: going to keep this along with ABC and probably the 1104 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 1: finals as well as on ABC. And then are they 1105 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 1: just going to go three track and pick between NBC 1106 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,479 Speaker 1: and tn T and have them bid again each other 1107 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,319 Speaker 1: or does the NBA even want both of them? And 1108 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,320 Speaker 1: where it's one night is NBC and one night still 1109 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,720 Speaker 1: Tuesday nights or Thursday nights, whatever it is, is still Turner, 1110 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 1: there's that as a possibility too. Now, I think you 1111 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:14,839 Speaker 1: A question to me is like, can you get too 1112 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 1: many of these where that pisses off the fan base 1113 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 1: where you're like, oh my god, like tough to follow? 1114 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 1: Do you think that's not really a worry anymore in twenty. 1115 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 4: Twenty four, No, I actually think that is a worry 1116 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 4: because you've got to have a lot of subscriptions to 1117 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 4: watch this, and it's also not easy to flip between games, 1118 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,360 Speaker 4: like that's a pain these days if you're watching like, 1119 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 4: for instance, last night, we're watching the national games on TNT, 1120 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,240 Speaker 4: but there's a game on NBA TV. It takes forever 1121 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,799 Speaker 4: to switch from I watch on the Max app right 1122 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 4: it's it's such a weirdo watching NBA games on Max 1123 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 4: right now. But then you got to back out, You 1124 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 4: got to open the NBA app, you got to click 1125 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 4: into the game, you got to click into the stream. 1126 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 4: It takes forever for it to load then, So it 1127 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 4: is much more of a hassle than like, all right, 1128 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,360 Speaker 4: channel six we got the national game, Channel eight, we 1129 00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:58,239 Speaker 4: got the local game. 1130 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 2: That's a lot easier. Yeah, And that's why three makes 1131 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 2: a little bit more logical sense because there aren't as 1132 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,280 Speaker 2: many days to split up. And that may be why 1133 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 2: it ends up being three, because ESPN would be giving 1134 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,839 Speaker 2: up a date. Think about the days here, Like if 1135 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 2: it is for TN, t will get Tuesday. I imagine 1136 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 2: they have it now like they used to. Wednesday will 1137 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 2: go to ESPN. I suppose Thursday is Amazon. Yeah, and 1138 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:29,359 Speaker 2: and in these articles, these publications of reported deals, that's 1139 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 2: what it is. It goes Tuesday, TNT, Wednesday, ESPN, Thursday, Amazon, 1140 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,200 Speaker 2: and then the Friday it goes to a fourth channel. 1141 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:41,280 Speaker 2: I mean it's it's now the regional networks get them. 1142 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know if 1143 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,839 Speaker 2: you want to have more in this again, this may 1144 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 2: just be to push up the money deal with TNT 1145 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 2: that that could very well be a possibility, But they don't. 1146 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,719 Speaker 1: Make possiblities because even Amazon could get in on this, 1147 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 1: right well, we think they are. That's not that doesn't 1148 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,360 Speaker 1: mean like T and T doesn't come up with a 1149 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 1: deal to do the production for Amazon's It's a possibility 1150 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 1: where like they could be the inside guys could be 1151 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,240 Speaker 1: they could be producing it, and they could be on Amazon. 1152 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,680 Speaker 1: Like they're obviously having these negotiations. That's not I'm not 1153 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,760 Speaker 1: saying they want that. I have no idea if that's true. 1154 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 1: But like that's stuff that happens. 1155 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 2: Right yeah, Yeah, And as you said about the apps internationally, 1156 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 2: I wonder how it all ends up working out, right, 1157 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,319 Speaker 2: there are a lot of countries that probably don't use 1158 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 2: Amazon Prime as much as we do, and they have 1159 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,040 Speaker 2: Amazon Web services that they that makes it all happen 1160 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,239 Speaker 2: on that and so they're good on that end, and 1161 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 2: that's why I guess they're going with that said, but 1162 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,880 Speaker 2: I know that Warner Brothers, slash TNT can match deals. 1163 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,919 Speaker 2: But I think NBC, according to the Athletic could try 1164 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 2: to structure an agreement in a way that makes it 1165 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 2: very difficult to match it with all their I don't 1166 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,840 Speaker 2: know what these all mean, what it really means, but 1167 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:54,399 Speaker 2: I don't know. It ain't over. 1168 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,799 Speaker 4: It sounds like Darryl Morey sign an omeer Ashik to 1169 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 4: a poison pill content. I don't know the NBA was 1170 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:04,120 Speaker 4: a restrict did free agent to Warner Brothers match rights? Yeah, 1171 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:04,959 Speaker 4: early bird rights? 1172 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 1173 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:06,480 Speaker 2: Where over the cap can they go? 1174 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 4: They did sign all those inside the NBA guys to 1175 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,080 Speaker 4: like gigantic contracts. 1176 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, long term. I thought that the match window 1177 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 2: here was over reading the article. Originally thought it was 1178 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,319 Speaker 2: forty five days. I thought it was done. I thought 1179 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,800 Speaker 2: Mike Poorkanov wrote about it at the beginning of the season. 1180 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 2: It got me juiced up. Oh yes, broadcast rights can't 1181 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 2: wait to talk about it. I thought forty five days 1182 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,319 Speaker 2: was done. But maybe I'm maybe I'm wrong, Maybe I'm wrong, 1183 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:30,359 Speaker 2: maybe I'm right. I don't know. 1184 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 1: I think there's sort of two different things. They have 1185 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,720 Speaker 1: the ability to match whatever like ABC, where to offer 1186 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,480 Speaker 1: in this case. But the first part was the matching 1187 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 1: or the contract that they had. 1188 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,840 Speaker 2: Or whatever, or just an exclusive negotiation. Yeah, I think so. 1189 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:45,879 Speaker 1: Be very weird if there's no inside the NBA. Yeah, 1190 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,560 Speaker 1: be very very strange. If TNT Sports does not have 1191 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 1: NBA games at all because because of NBC, you know, 1192 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 1: flexing their muscle and money and are like, no, we'll 1193 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:54,400 Speaker 1: take it. 1194 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,759 Speaker 2: You'll never see You'll never see guys race to the 1195 00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 2: board again. It would be so sad for you. 1196 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 4: Jesus Kenny. You see Kenny last night slipped on the 1197 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:08,319 Speaker 4: steps us. You guys actually getting some great, some great 1198 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:09,319 Speaker 4: stuff on the board race. 1199 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 2: They can't give it up, keep it going. 1200 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,719 Speaker 4: I wonder if it would ever be like Joe Buck 1201 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,759 Speaker 4: Troy Aikman thing, where like they're calling games for one 1202 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,319 Speaker 4: network and then actually those are the guys, we're taking 1203 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 4: them free they call Monday Night football. I wouldn't be surprised. 1204 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 1: That's definitely so we'll see. Okay, let's uh, before we go, 1205 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:26,399 Speaker 1: get to tweet of the night. 1206 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 2: Tweet of the night. 1207 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:36,640 Speaker 4: Wow, anybody want to see a weird hat say, yeah, yeah, 1208 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 4: what's going on? Jalen Williams, this is our tweet of 1209 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:40,840 Speaker 4: the night it comes to us from the NBA, Jalen 1210 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:45,160 Speaker 4: Williams arriving in a pair of trash bag pants and 1211 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,880 Speaker 4: a hat that I can't even find the words to describe. 1212 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,600 Speaker 4: I was trying to look this thing up. I've tried 1213 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:53,719 Speaker 4: like inflatable padded hat, Adidas, Adidas padded trapper hat. 1214 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:54,759 Speaker 1: You couldn't even find it. 1215 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,239 Speaker 4: I couldn't even find it. I've tried every combination of 1216 00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 4: trapper hat, padded hat, inflatable hat that I could possibly 1217 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,279 Speaker 4: think of. I was writing down what Jalen Williams has 1218 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,880 Speaker 4: worn the games here, the jeweled ski mask, padded trapper hat, 1219 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 4: and after I wrote the second one, I was like, 1220 00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 4: these sound like AI hat creators. Just throw together some 1221 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,320 Speaker 4: words and we'll see what hat comes out. So I 1222 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 4: don't know what's this guy gonna wear next? A TV 1223 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:18,879 Speaker 4: on his head? 1224 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 2: Uh? 1225 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 4: You know, fucking like task had for off once upon a. 1226 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 1: Time that that you're calling that a hat, I mean, 1227 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 1: I guess it is almost like a helmet. 1228 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, I've had an inflatable helmet. 1229 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't look a little like that. 1230 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, A member on No Bus on 1231 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 1: Our Survivor podcast. We were talking about, hey, someone should 1232 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,880 Speaker 1: get smart and wear or create like a pillow hat 1233 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,319 Speaker 1: to take out to the island, because then you could 1234 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 1: sleep easily on your hat. And then we saw suddenly 1235 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 1: like an usher was wearing something that looked like a 1236 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,320 Speaker 1: giant pillow hat. But this would work too, totally. 1237 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,600 Speaker 4: This is even better because it's got the eye shade. 1238 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 4: I guess I keep the bugs away from him? What 1239 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 4: a look? Yeah, super shredder. 1240 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 1: You have a yeah, super shredder. People were saying, sort 1241 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:10,759 Speaker 1: of hearkening vibes from Dune helmet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. 1242 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it totally looks ai ish. But then you see 1243 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:14,600 Speaker 2: Adidas on the back. 1244 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,239 Speaker 1: He didn't. I didn't see that. He didn't show up. 1245 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,479 Speaker 1: Was he even did they even have the podium game? 1246 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 1: Was he there? 1247 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:23,560 Speaker 2: He didn't wear that? Yeah? 1248 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:24,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he was. 1249 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 4: Like wearing that on the bus. They had like scraps 1250 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,320 Speaker 4: on it until he carried a backpack or something. 1251 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, the road too. Yeah, strange. 1252 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,799 Speaker 4: Imagine he comes down in the hotel wearing that. They're like, what, 1253 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:39,800 Speaker 4: They'll just start barking. 1254 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,400 Speaker 1: Wear that impossible not to hit his head? Smack the 1255 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,640 Speaker 1: head right anytime you see somebody wearing a helmet, you 1256 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 1: want to slap him on that. Yeah, he's just fun. 1257 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,840 Speaker 1: This one's like not even gonna hurt, not evenna hurt anybody. 1258 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 2: I'm just thinking of I could have came in today 1259 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 2: with my helmet. I think you have something like that. 1260 00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,360 Speaker 2: I did. I had a Buffalo Bills one. But I 1261 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 2: think I in my move, I think it's one of 1262 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 2: those things that Daniel's and my wife's like, come on, 1263 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,720 Speaker 2: we got it. We gotta lower, gotta lower the content, 1264 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,120 Speaker 2: which is true. I don't need that helmet, but it 1265 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,040 Speaker 2: was a fun helmet, right, that's what people use. I 1266 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 2: guess you know Bill's fans that throw each other in 1267 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 2: the table where they wear helmet. 1268 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,680 Speaker 1: Right, Well, didn't we just learn the NFL is going 1269 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,840 Speaker 1: to allow players to wear what do you call them? 1270 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 1: Like there's the padded sort of covers on top of 1271 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 1: their helmets helmets? 1272 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:31,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, similar to that, not too different. 1273 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,920 Speaker 1: Okay, but we saw him the other night. Yeah where 1274 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 1: the I don't know where. It was just like the 1275 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,680 Speaker 1: little people of his face. Oh my god, they killed 1276 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,160 Speaker 1: Kenny luck that he had. You called it the bejeweled 1277 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,960 Speaker 1: ski mask. Then he wears this, I mean What's what? 1278 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 1: What's the next level for game one? In the next series? 1279 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 1: Where does he go next? 1280 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 2: Dunce cap. 1281 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 4: Dunce casts are hilarious in the Bugs Bunny days. You 1282 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,320 Speaker 4: don't see him as much anymore that you have to 1283 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:00,560 Speaker 4: sit in the corner of the whole time. We're in 1284 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:01,880 Speaker 4: a dust face back right. 1285 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Actually it is a good pick. So we got 1286 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,520 Speaker 1: the corner right there. It's perfect. What a look, What 1287 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 1: a look? These kids man don't wear anything. Those kids 1288 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 1: are crazy, man crazy. All right, let's call it. There 1289 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,280 Speaker 1: three games on tonight, six Ers Nicks New York trying 1290 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 1: to close out this series in five Madison Square Garden. 1291 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 1: I assume is going to be rocking for that one. 1292 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:23,480 Speaker 4: We also have. 1293 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:27,880 Speaker 1: Game five, pivotal Game five between the Magic and Caz. 1294 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,680 Speaker 1: Have the Magic figured something else? When they were at home, 1295 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,920 Speaker 1: it worked, looked great. Didn't look good when they were 1296 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 1: in Cleveland for games one and two. We'll see what 1297 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 1: happens there. And then we also have Pacers Box. Now 1298 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,960 Speaker 1: it sounds like the Bucks are not expecting Dame Oriannis 1299 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,600 Speaker 1: in Game five. A very once again disappointing season here 1300 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 1: for the Milwaukee Bucks this point in ending. If they 1301 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:52,200 Speaker 1: do go down here tonight in Milwaukee. That's it for 1302 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,360 Speaker 1: me this week. I'm heading home to Toronto. My grandmother 1303 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,520 Speaker 1: unfortunately passed, so I am going to be gone for 1304 00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:57,800 Speaker 1: the rest of the week. But you guys be holding 1305 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,400 Speaker 1: it down. I'll be tuning in to hear your thoughts 1306 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 1: on all these games and everything else that happens this week. 1307 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,240 Speaker 2: We'll miss yet, Yeah, yeah, I can. 1308 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,120 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I'll make sure to try and get 1309 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,400 Speaker 1: my predictions in when you start talking about the second 1310 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,680 Speaker 1: half series, because I know you just need to hear. 1311 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,920 Speaker 4: What I think. I mean, a huge, huge news here skates. Yeah, 1312 00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,440 Speaker 4: Jerome dropped the link to the hat. It's by Dingyan Xiang, 1313 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 4: a former Adidas and Easy designer. It's called the Helmet 1314 00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 4: Cross body Bag because it does turn into a bag 1315 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,160 Speaker 4: a helmet of course, the stuff you were carrying in 1316 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,480 Speaker 4: your bag. Where's that go? I don't know? Yeah, how 1317 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:33,440 Speaker 4: much you think it costs? 1318 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 1: Fifty? 1319 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 2: Not bad? 1320 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:41,680 Speaker 4: Six ten sold out though, sorry of course? Yeah? Probably 1321 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 4: what crazy last night? Oh yeah, I gotta find this thing. 1322 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:48,920 Speaker 1: It's probably like three made. 1323 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,800 Speaker 2: Wipe with a soft cloth, that's how you clean it. 1324 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,520 Speaker 1: Don't wipe with a pin it'll pop the damn thing. 1325 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,240 Speaker 1: All right, that's it for us until we see you guys, 1326 00:59:58,360 --> 00:59:59,400 Speaker 1: or these guys see you tomorrow. 1327 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,320 Speaker 4: Clipper, you heard it here first, have a great time, 1328 01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,840 Speaker 4: turn up, love you guys awesome. 1329 01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. And remember Jalen Williams helmet was 1330 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,360 Speaker 2: made by Ding Young Jang or was it. I'm not convinced. 1331 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,320 Speaker 2: If you want to be you want us to convince us, 1332 01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,960 Speaker 2: Ding Young Jang, send us in one, please, yeah, so 1333 01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 2: we can wear them because it's not as much of 1334 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,480 Speaker 2: a grid like you see on a football helmet, This one, 1335 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,440 Speaker 2: in particular than Jalen woms that looked like a grid. 1336 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 2: Can't see out of This one looks hot, it looks yes, 1337 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:30,840 Speaker 2: it looks sticky. 1338 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. You couldn't wear that in Atlanta, that's for sure. 1339 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 1: Race today, people,