1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:01,080 Speaker 1: Can't. 2 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 2: I am six forty. You're listening to the John Cobel 3 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 2: podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We're on from one until 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: four and then after four o'clock John Cobelt's show on demand. 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: That's the podcast version of the radio show. Anything that 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 2: you missed. We have Mark Arragos coming on now. Mark 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: is representing Hutter Biden in a lawsuit against Fox News Channel, 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 2: saying that Fox has defamed Hunter Biden, painted him in 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 2: a false light, and aired revenge porn, violated revenge porn 10 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: laws by using Well, we'll find out exactly what that 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: is about. Let's get Mark Arragos on. 12 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: How are you, by the way, is this the first 13 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: time that you've flown solo with me in the Post 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: John and Canada era? 15 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: I think so, yes, first time you had a big 16 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: enough case. 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: I was gonna say it apparently I'm plumbing at ladies. 18 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: Now I'm back on the airway. Yeah, I was going 19 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: to say, apparently business was slower. You haven't been slamming 20 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: me in abstentious so I welcome and it's a beautiful 21 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: day in the neighborhood. 22 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: Explain how anybody could defame Hunter Biden. How is that possible? 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: Well, The interesting part of this is that what spurred 24 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: this was a preservation letter that my partner wrote to 25 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: Fox News I don't know, maybe a week and a 26 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 1: half ago and specifically outlined the mock trial that Fox 27 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: Nation did and the publication of the photos of Hunter Biden. 28 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: So the revenge point is what leads on this, and 29 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: the preservation letter led with that. The defamation has been 30 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: what people kind of since this got out this morning 31 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: talking about, but more properly, it's revenge point. It fits 32 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: right within the statute. 33 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: By the way, I didn't see the mock trial they 34 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: did on Fox Nation. I don't have a subscription, So 35 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: if you could explain to me what that program was 36 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: about and what was the use of revenge born, what 37 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: was the specific video, the. 38 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: Use of the pictures that were the providence that are 39 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: not established? And when I say that, I mean, you know, 40 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: you've heard a lot of people talk about the laptop 41 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: back and forth, and I will for your listeners with 42 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: that whole kind of episode, but I will tell you 43 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: that what they did was they had a supposed simulation 44 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: of a trial that involved Hunter Biden and the jury 45 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: and supposed evidence, and the evidence included these pictures, which 46 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: are by anybody's definition private, were never meant to be publicized. 47 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: And by the way, we've got it on fairly good 48 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: authority that not only were they exploited for commercial purposes, 49 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: but if you take a look at the number of 50 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: times that the entities, the Fox related entities have invoked 51 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: Jo Biden and the pictures and things of that nature, 52 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: it defies almost any kind of rational belief. The number 53 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: of times, I think it's an excess of a thousand. 54 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: And they monetize one of the reasons they were doing 55 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't because they were so fascinated with Hunter Bidens, 56 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: because they were getting clicks for it. So from just 57 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: a purely economic. 58 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: I see that I have seen photos and very short 59 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: clips many many times over the last few years coming 60 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: from the laptop. So something that is so widely available, 61 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: what makes this different? I mean, certainly there has been. 62 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: Just because it's One of the reasons is it's widely 63 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: available is because it's been so widely publicized and basically 64 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: ground zero for it has been the Fox and the 65 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: Fox affiliated papers, whether it's New York Post and Fox Nation, 66 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: which is their streaming service. So that's where that's where 67 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: it comes from. That's why you've seen it almost incessantly. 68 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: I mean, if you talk anecdotally with people, they say 69 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: the same, exactly what you just said. And by the way, 70 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: you can't just do that, You can't. You can't take 71 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: somebody's photos and use it for your own commercial exploitation. 72 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,239 Speaker 2: Well, how does something get distributed for years and years 73 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: without tripping a lawsuit immediately? You know, most people don't 74 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 2: understand how this type of law works if they've seen 75 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: these pictures now going on what since since probably the 76 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: twenty twenty election, right, that whole laptop story goes back 77 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 2: to twenty twenty. Right, So you see these photos in 78 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 2: case over a four year period and there's been no 79 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: legal case. Was there something about what Fox Nation did 80 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: in this mock trial that was different from all the 81 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 2: other photo and video presentations. 82 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, this was a full throated, if you will, commercial 83 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: exploitation on the streaming service, which is what if you 84 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: take off kind of the elements of the revenge porn 85 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: and the commercial exploitation, this is it. By the way, 86 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: the revenge porn law in New York is a fairly 87 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: recent vintage as well, And there's also California has one, 88 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: but it's it's a little bit more robust in its application, 89 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: and it predates it at in New York at least. 90 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: This is something that does dropped fairly recently. I don't 91 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: have in front of me, But that combined with I'll 92 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: give you the other kind of factor that kind of 93 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: came into this. You take a look at recently. You've 94 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: probably reported on it, although I hadn't listened on it, 95 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: But the indictment of Smirnoff, who was acting as an 96 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: FBI informant. Once that happened, that unleashed, if you will, 97 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: a whole host of pieces of information. 98 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: Let me talk about that, because we haven't discussed this 99 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: on the air. So there was an FBI informant named 100 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: Alexander Smirnoff, and he had floated allegations of bribery against 101 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: Hunter Biden. Correct, Fox News hassellar bribery right, And these 102 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: allegations are false. 103 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: Yes, the allegations are not only false, he was indicted 104 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: for it, which is shocking to me because look, I've 105 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: been doing this for forty years and anybody who does 106 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: any kind of federal criminal work will tell you that 107 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: unless they've got a wiretap or an informant slash snitch. 108 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: The FEDS don't bring a case, and the idea of 109 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: the FEDS indicting one of their snitches slash informancy is 110 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: virtually unheard of. They did in this case because they 111 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: were literally played, and they realized that the government realized 112 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: that they were played on this. It's one of the reasons. 113 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: And I don't want to get into the politics of 114 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: it because that's way above my pay grade. But you 115 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: seem that the Biden impeachment inquiry that was opened by 116 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: the House has has basically fizzled out because all those 117 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: roads led through this smeared off allegation that was much 118 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: baluehood at the time and now has been it appears 119 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: to be demonstrably disproved. 120 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: And Fox News had been pushing this smearnoff story about 121 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: the the Hunter Biden bribery. 122 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: Fox News not only had been pushing if Fox News, 123 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: one of the things that we came up with during 124 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: our instigation was intimately involved in the kind of the 125 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: orchestrating of this information in the Sacho chamber that they existed. 126 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: So's it's really been quite an eye opening experience. I mean, 127 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: I've always understood politics to be rough and tumbleist. I'm 128 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,559 Speaker 1: sure you have, but this took it to a new level. 129 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: Do you have a favorable environment for this? After Fox 130 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 2: had to settle that Dominion voting systems lawsuit and they 131 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 2: had to pay out seven hundred and eighty seven million dollars, 132 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 2: has that made it easier for you to bring this 133 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 2: and have a positive settlement? 134 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: Well, I think that if you take Dominion and what 135 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: ended up happening there through the discovery process, what was revealed. 136 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons that we decided to first 137 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: start with a preservation letter so that nothing got destroyed 138 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: because at least watching from the cheap seats during the 139 00:08:54,840 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: dominion lawsuit, discovery ended up sinking the fire defense there. 140 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: Then you've got smart Matic, which is that they're in 141 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: the cross on Arizona that has not been settled yet, 142 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: and now they've got this, so he's got a more 143 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: favorable environment. I think. I think clearly the discovery that 144 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: came out and the the kind of participation, the conspiracy 145 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: of both contributors, hosts and others, is what has sparked this. 146 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: Now at this time when you have the smart Off. 147 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 2: Indictment, so you're you're asking for Sean Hannity, Jesse Waters, 148 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 2: Maria Bartiromo to correct and retract things that they said 149 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: or stories that they. 150 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: Provided, correct, correct, And I'm sure Jesse and Sean will 151 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: do that bunch of things. 152 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: It depends what it's going to cost him. I don't 153 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 2: understand that word. 154 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: You know, I have no doubt that Sean will do 155 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: the right thing. 156 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 2: So your suit says, the bribery allegations were unverified, but 157 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 2: Fox kept pushing them as highly credible. 158 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: Right, And by the way, take a look at how 159 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: many times that they publicized Hunter Biden bribery blah blah blah, 160 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: the number of times that Hunter was invoked. And then 161 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: when Smirnov was indicted, it was as if a giant 162 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 1: corporate damp towel was wrapped around the Fox enterprise. They 163 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,359 Speaker 1: became almost almost evaporated. 164 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I never I've never gotten into that 165 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 2: that Fox News conspiracy pushing. And we didn't spend one 166 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: day on the election being stolen. I just thought the 167 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 2: whole story was observed from the first moment and nobody 168 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: had ever had evidence about anything. And I'm very, very 169 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: skeptical of all this stuff. 170 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's by the way, the problem with all this stuff. 171 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: And I know that you know that my friends on 172 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: the other side of the spectrum have always kind of 173 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: poo pooed the Russian connection. But if you take a 174 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: look at smear enough, if you take a look at 175 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: what some of these others who formerly were in the 176 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: inner circle say, there is a disinformation campaign that does fit. 177 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 1: We're aligned closely with what the disinformation blueprint was, and 178 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: that does seem to be fed by Russian all. 179 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: Right, Mark, good talking with you, Thanks for coming on. 180 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: Always good to talk to you too. 181 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: Thank you, Mark Garago. And he's behind a lawsuit for 182 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: Hunter Biden for Fox News airing revenge porn from Hunter 183 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 2: Biden's computer and also pushing a bribery charge from a 184 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 2: FBI agent who has since been indicted because the bribery 185 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: charge was false about Biden. And see where that goes. 186 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 187 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: six forty. 188 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 2: That emergency slide that fell off a Delta flight last week? Yeah, 189 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: on Friday, did you see it washed up? 190 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: No? 191 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 2: Well, it was leaving JFK headed here to Los Angeles 192 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 2: and the emergency slide fell off the Delta flight and 193 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: the crew heard a vibration, and so they turned the 194 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: flight around to JFK about eight thirty five. A couple 195 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: of days go by, and then there's an attorney who 196 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 2: has an ocean front home in Belle Harbor, Queens, faces 197 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: the Atlantic Ocean. His name is Jake Bissell Lynsk. He 198 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 2: looks outside and trapped on the rocks within a few 199 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: feet of his front yard was the emergency slide. 200 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 4: Now slide it was. 201 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: It's a Boeing seven sixty seven. And here is the twist. 202 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 2: Jake Bisell Link. Jake Besell Lynsk is an attorney whose 203 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 2: firm filed a lawsuit against Boeing after the Alaska Air 204 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: door blowout. So because Boeing decided to drop a slide, 205 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: try to drop a slide on his head is crazy. 206 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: He went out to take pictures of it. Was all deflated, intact, 207 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: tangled on the rocks. I didn't want to touch it, 208 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 2: but I got it close enough to look at it. 209 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: And our case is all about safety issues at Boeing, 210 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 2: and this slide is literally right in front of my 211 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: house around five o'clock. Well, at first, his neighbor calls 212 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 2: an FAA hotline and they're closed on Sunday. Is is 213 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: the FAA. I'd like to record a plane has just 214 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: crashed to my front lawn. I'm sorry. Business hours are 215 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: eight am to five pm Monday through Friday. But a 216 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 2: few hours later a crew of Delta workers arrived and 217 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: they fished the shoot out of the water and threw 218 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: it in the back of a pickup. And besel Lynsk 219 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: is a partner at the law firm Labaton Keller Sucirau, 220 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: and they sued Bowing, alleging the company made false and 221 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: misleading statements about safety following the Alaska air blowout. Wow, 222 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: but that's not all. We have another United flight from 223 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 2: Sacramento to Denver diverted to San Francisco on Sunday. Mechanical 224 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: issues on the plane about an hour after take off 225 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: had left Sacramento. They forced it to land in San Francisco. 226 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: No details on what the mechanical issue was. Had one 227 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty four people and six crew members who 228 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: was going to Denver and there is now remember we 229 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 2: attract this there was more than a There's been a 230 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: dozen safety incidents on United flights, somehow involving San Francisco. Yes, 231 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: either lifting off supposed to arrive there or it's used 232 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: as an emergency emergency. 233 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 4: And I'd like to mention I haven't been to San 234 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 4: Francisco in many years, so you can't blame. 235 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: Me choose to live up there. 236 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 5: I lived in the East Bay. 237 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 2: I think you left a permanent, permanent impact. All right, 238 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 2: when we come back, we're going to talk to Chris 239 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: Adler if she's okay. She's covering the protests at EUCLA 240 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: and when she was on with Debor's News at two o'clock, 241 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: there was a bit of a ruckus right in front 242 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: of her. We'll see what that was about. 243 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: Next. 244 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI Am 245 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: six forty. 246 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: We're on from one until four after four o'clock. John 247 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: Cobelts Show on demand on the iHeart app. Moistline is 248 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 2: on Friday eight seven seven Moist eighty six, eight seven 249 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: seven Moist eighty six. So let's get going and start venting. 250 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 2: Maybe you've got something to say about at least Toddler 251 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: protesters who are screaming and chanting in rhymes and banging 252 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 2: their stupid drums. All these pro terrorist protesters. They've had 253 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 2: another round at UCLA and Chris Adler from KFI new 254 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: this was on on Devor's News at two o'clock and 255 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: you started talking about a taser. I thought, maybe you'd 256 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: gotten zapped. 257 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 6: You know why that would be the highlight of my day, John, 258 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 6: I think, But you know, I know I have to 259 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 6: apologize the debra because I was in the middle of 260 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 6: my life hit and I'm just seeing this crowd race 261 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 6: over to where the fences that's blocking about fifty loy hitters. 262 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 6: More than fifty tents popped up, but there's this barricade 263 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 6: and there's security blocking the defense, so people can't get in, 264 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 6: media can't get and you can't get in unless you're 265 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 6: a student. But as I'm on the light hit, I'm 266 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 6: looking over and I just hear people and I'm getting 267 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 6: distracted her. I see a scuffle and people are fighting, 268 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 6: and then I hear a taser what I thought was 269 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 6: a taser at the time, and I was like, oh 270 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 6: my gosh, somebody's getting caved over there. So, you know, 271 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 6: then we ended up speaking with the guy that got 272 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 6: into a fight with this pro Palestinian woman. She was 273 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 6: wearing a cafia. She came in from the street he said, 274 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 6: not from the camp itself. 275 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: John. 276 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 6: So she came in from the street, walked over, grabbed 277 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 6: the sign of a pro I'm sorry of an Israeli 278 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 6: hostage that was up on the fence. She took it 279 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 6: down and started ripping at the guy tried to take 280 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 6: that sign back. She says, that's when she grabbed him 281 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,959 Speaker 6: by the neck, tried to strangle him with his hat cord, 282 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 6: and then she pulled out a taser and that's when 283 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 6: we heard that taser. He said. She tried to pull 284 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 6: out a taser, tried to chase him. Someone tried to 285 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 6: come in and intervene and stop it, and she she 286 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 6: aimed the haser at that person, and then she was 287 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 6: escorted off the campus. And as she was walking off 288 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 6: the campus, she said something like look me up, I'm Lily, 289 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 6: blah blah blah, and then she grabbed her breast, both 290 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 6: of them, seized them and just kind of shook them 291 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 6: at everybody, and we were just like, what. 292 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: I know that an assault with a deadly weapon there, 293 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 2: what's that going to be the charge? 294 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,239 Speaker 6: He grabbed them and just was like shaking them at 295 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 6: people like look me up. And she then she walked 296 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 6: off the campus. And after that, just shortly after that, 297 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 6: there was marchers pro Palestinian marchers marching across the campus 298 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 6: at dacent to the street here. But fortunately it didn't 299 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 6: seem nobody got there was no contact with that taser. 300 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 6: She she left the campus. But I talked to the guy. 301 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 6: He would not confirm whether he was Jewish or not. 302 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 6: He said he was a protest observer and he just 303 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 6: didn't like what she was doing. And so, you know, 304 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 6: he went over to take that client back. 305 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 2: John a protest observer. Is that a paid job or 306 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 2: is this a little side hobby? I don't understand. Is 307 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: nothing better to do? 308 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 6: I know, well, I said, you know, can we say 309 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 6: are you Jewish? Can we say you're Jewish? He goes, 310 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 6: I don't think that that's important. I think what's important 311 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 6: is that one side was violent, one side was not. 312 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 6: So you know, and I heard that taser. You know, 313 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 6: I've heard that what sounded like the taser as I 314 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 6: was live and I was like, oh wow, you know, 315 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 6: as it was unfolding. 316 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 2: Well and any other skirmish is going on, I mean, 317 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 2: this is this is shaking all the crazy trees and 318 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 2: all the nuts of watch this coverage go on for 319 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 2: days and days, and you know, people want to be 320 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: part of the action, and regardless of what it is. 321 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: I'm sure some of us don't even know what the 322 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 2: protests are about. 323 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 6: Well, I was talking to some Jewish students out here, 324 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 6: and if you can hear that noise behind me, that's 325 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 6: a big giant screen TV that was showing graphic images 326 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 6: from the Hamas attack on Israel on October seventh. That 327 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 6: the counter protester, the Jewish counter protesters are showing this 328 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 6: on the other side. They're not inside that that camp, 329 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 6: they're on the other side and they're showing these videos. 330 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 6: They're saying they're sickened that UCLA is allowing this. So 331 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 6: I was talking to some Jewish students that were watching 332 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 6: those videos and they said, you know, they said, we 333 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 6: saw some of the protesters go in from the camp 334 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 6: into Royce Hall, into that building, and they said, what 335 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 6: concerns them is that some of those people that are 336 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 6: in the camp may not be students and they're breaching 337 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 6: the UCLA buildings. And so they said, that's one thing 338 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 6: that was concerning about it. And they said, you know, 339 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 6: they don't think that UCLA is doing anything about this. 340 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 2: I was just going to ask you what is UCLA 341 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 2: doing to end this nonsense, especially when you have outsiders 342 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 2: coming on coming on the campus and you know, the 343 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 2: taser is a weapon, that's an assault that was committed 344 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 2: against that. I think about. 345 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 6: Trying to do John by having this barricade, dis sense 346 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 6: is keeping outsiders out, you know, that's what they think 347 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 6: they're doing. They're keeping insider outsiders out from so you know, 348 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 6: people like that woman who came in with the taser 349 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 6: from getting into the camp. You know, who knows what 350 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 6: people's intentions are. And I think that's what UCLA put 351 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 6: up over the weekend. There was somebody breached that that sense, 352 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 6: and then there was a fight. And so I think 353 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 6: that now they've got about i'd say six or seven 354 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 6: public safety officers that are just kind of hanging over 355 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 6: the fences, just watching everybody, making sure nobody gets in. 356 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 6: I think that's what UCLA has done thus far. I've 357 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 6: reached out to them, have not heard from them today, 358 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 6: but their last statement said they support freedom of expression 359 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 6: as long as it's not disrupting a school, it's not 360 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 6: disrupting learning, and it's safe. There's no harassing going on. 361 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 6: But I did talk to some Jewish students who last 362 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 6: Thursday were in the middle of a midterm and said 363 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 6: that these protests were disrupting their learning. So, you know, 364 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 6: it's just there's a lot going on here. 365 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: John, all right, Chris, let us know. If anything else 366 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 2: breaks up, I will you know it. Chris Adler, CAFI 367 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 2: News at UCLA. I'm so sick of these sanctimonious statements 368 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 2: from college administrators about we respect the First Amendment and 369 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 2: the right to freedom of expression. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 370 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 2: but the students have the right to take their exams 371 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 2: at peace that they're paying tens of thousands of dollars for. 372 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. I was talking to my daughter, my daughter last night. 373 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 4: She goes to law school at USC, and she said 374 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 4: it's very disruptive because she has finals and you know, 375 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 4: it was hard for her to get on campus and 376 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 4: you have to you have to show your ID, and 377 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 4: it's it's just. 378 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 5: A big headache. And that's not what they need right now. 379 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 2: Why would the administrators side with their their customers, their 380 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 2: constituents are the students. What the students need to take 381 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 2: their classes and take their exams is more important than 382 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 2: anything else. You've blow in your mouth off. Get off 383 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 2: the campus, go do it across the street. I don't 384 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: understand why they favor all these loud mouths who aren't 385 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 2: necessarily even part of the university, just because they're they're 386 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 2: they're siding with the with Hamas and then and they 387 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 2: get a run of the place. It's incredible. In fact, 388 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: they're so weak the administrators, you have to assume that 389 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 2: they're on that side too. They're on the side of 390 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 2: Palestine and Amas. Even more important to them that these 391 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 2: Prohamas protesters get their say is more important than their 392 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 2: students who pay the bills, more important than them taking 393 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: their exams and going to class. I don't know. The 394 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 2: whole world's inverted. It's crazy. And then this here, this 395 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: is out of New York. Now, the UH Columbia University 396 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 2: students who have been suspended after getting arrested, they want 397 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 2: to they're now continuing to protest. And one of their 398 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 2: new issues is they want amnesty because they don't want 399 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: their arrests and their suspension suspensions to trail them as 400 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 2: part of their permanent record when they go get jobs. 401 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 5: How about that that's not gonna happen. 402 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: This is the generation of no consequences. They don't believe 403 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 2: there should be any consequences for bad behavior. Over the 404 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 2: last twenty years, this has infiltrated most schools and now 405 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 2: they think this is this is normal life. So they 406 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: want they want the universities and they want law enforcement 407 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 2: to clear the charges, pretend it didn't happen. No record 408 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 2: of any of this. They want to know where they're 409 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 2: going to be able to Are they going to be 410 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 2: able to take their final exams? The protesters are worried. 411 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 5: Okay, well, then do something about it. 412 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 2: Disrupting everybody else. Let the other students go to class, 413 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 2: and then maybe you can go to class. They want 414 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: to know what about their financial aid? Is that going 415 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 2: to be impacted? Oh, they still want someone else to 416 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 2: pay the bill. Wow. They want to know if they'll 417 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: be allowed to graduate. Boy, they got a lot of 418 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: a lot of gold, don't they. 419 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 4: I'd like to know if any of these protesters that 420 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 4: that are in college, what they would do if they're 421 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 4: offered a job once they graduate by a Jewish company. 422 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 5: Would they accept a lot of money? 423 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 4: Let's just say a big law firm, right, a big 424 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 4: Jewish law firm. 425 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 5: Are they going to Are they going to take the job? 426 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 2: Money? Has a way of living with those contra allow 427 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 2: you to live with those contradictions. I don't know, I 428 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 2: just I mean they the hate speech that has come 429 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 2: out of some of these protests, the threats, the blatant 430 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 2: support for one of the worst terrorism organizations on the planet, 431 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 2: and so they publicly disrupt everyone else's life so they 432 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 2: can support terrorists. And then they want to know that 433 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 2: there's no there's no consequences for them. Wow, they have. 434 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 2: Really this is a terrible generation that's been programmed. I 435 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 2: don't think any adult has ever told them that they've 436 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: been out of line in their entire life since they 437 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 2: were two years old. More coming up. 438 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI A six. 439 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 2: Coming up at three o'clock. Jim Desmond, the San Diego 440 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: County Supervisor, says San Diego is now the epicenter for 441 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 2: illegal aliens crossing the border. Greg Abbott has done a 442 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: terrific job in Texas sealing the Rio Grinde River and 443 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: now everything is moved to the west and San Diego 444 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 2: is is the new home of the illegal alien flow. 445 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: And we'll talk to him about it. Coming got Actually 446 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 2: a lot of illegal alien news now here. Here's a 447 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,959 Speaker 2: terrible sad story that debor will deb will identify with. 448 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 2: Woman in Pacific Palisades, very rich woman lives in a 449 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 2: mansion and she she suffered the loss of her entire 450 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 2: handbag collection, luxury handbag collection. Thieves burst in. They think 451 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:27,479 Speaker 2: South American thieves a gang. They've been part of a 452 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: whole rash of residential break ins, including in the Palisades. 453 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 2: And she had a dark green handbag. It wasn't her 454 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: only burkin, but it was no but it was the 455 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 2: only one that she left behind when she went to Europe, 456 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: Like she took all her other burkins with her, but 457 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 2: she didn't want to lose that one on the European trip. 458 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 2: That's how important that burken bag was. And there it 459 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 2: was in the house when two burglars jumped a retaining 460 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 2: wall at her mansion, smashed through a sloping door on 461 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 2: the pool deck. In and out in fifteen minutes, and 462 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 2: they raced past computers and televisions. They got to her 463 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: walk in closet and on a shelf, alongside dozens of 464 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 2: other luxury handbags. She'd been collecting them since she was 465 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 2: a teenager, sat that dark green Burkin. She said, I 466 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 2: had only worn it once on my birthday. The thieves 467 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,959 Speaker 2: took the Burken and most of the other bags and 468 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 2: receipts from a drawer, which would back up that they 469 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 2: were real, that they were authenticated. She said the thieves 470 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 2: were like trained assassins, and she thought the Burkeen was 471 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 2: gone forever. But now months later she's looking online and 472 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 2: was shocked to find it for sale on a website 473 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 2: catering to other women who love Burken handbags. Now the 474 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 2: Burkeen is the top right. 475 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 5: Yes this, yes, yes, how much? 476 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 4: Well I do not have ones, so let's be clear 477 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 4: about that, nor will I ever. But I think the 478 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 4: small one starts at thirty or forty thousand dollars, oh 479 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 4: my god, and it goes up to one hundred thousand, 480 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 4: even the used ones. Because just for the heck of it, 481 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 4: I was looking online to just see what well preloved burkins, there's. 482 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: Pre loved burkins get out of here? Is that what 483 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 2: it says? 484 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 5: Yes, a preloved chanel pre loved. 485 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 2: Yes, there's something dirty about that. Well, there's this resale 486 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 2: side called re Deluxe, owned by a YouTube pastor, and 487 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 2: re Deluxe was advertising her bag for twenty five fifty, 488 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 2: So that'd be a significant markdown, wouldn't it. 489 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, but I bet you it's a teeny tiny one. 490 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't know what the size is. 491 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 7: Wait, a pastor is running a and resale website, a 492 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 7: YouTube pastor. There's something fishing the imagine twenty years ago, 493 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 7: trying to make sense of this entire story, like, what 494 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 7: the hell would it was a YouTube pastor and he's 495 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 7: selling He's selling these Burken bags, which up until a 496 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 7: few months ago, I hadn't heard of. 497 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 2: I had no idea they were the top of the 498 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: food chain. It's UHMESSI I was pronounced that rock. I 499 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 2: thought it's Hermes. 500 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 5: No an I've pronounced it wrong before. 501 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: I'm way out of my leader. 502 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 5: No, it's hard, it's a hard one. 503 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 2: Way out of my depth. It's funny. I can't remember 504 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: the last time I was sitting with my friends and 505 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 2: we were talking about Erme's handbags. Just has never come 506 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 2: up anyway. The Alley Times called the YouTube pastor and 507 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 2: he said, through a lawyer that we didn't know the 508 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 2: Burken was stolen, and they have filed a lawsuit against 509 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 2: a woman who sold them the bag. So the thieves 510 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: fenced it and some other women won and tried to 511 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 2: claim the UH the resale price by UH putting it 512 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 2: on the Read de Luxe website. Burkins are handmade by 513 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 2: French artisans, sold only at Urmize stores. Yes, you're not 514 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 2: allowed to walk in and pick one out. 515 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 5: Correct. You can't just go in there, have you? 516 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,479 Speaker 2: Have you gone in? Have you tried to? They wouldn't 517 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: let you in. 518 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 5: First of all, I cannot afford that. 519 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but would you go just to hold it, just 520 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 2: to try it? 521 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: No? 522 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 5: I'm not that way if I can't afford it. 523 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 2: Uh. Existing customers are contacted by a sales associate who 524 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 2: offers a specific bag for sale, So you can't just 525 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 2: walk in and take one off the off the shelf. Uh. 526 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 2: A lot of customers think they have to buy whatever 527 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: burkin they're offered, even if they don't like the color 528 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: or the type of leather, or risk being cut off 529 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 2: from buying them in the future. Is that true? Is 530 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 2: that how they. 531 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 5: Treat people that I don't know? 532 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: Ermaize would not comment or even all the messages and 533 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: questions interviews with bag owners and experts. In a recent lawsuit, 534 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 2: says Birkins are bestowed on customers who spend handsomely on 535 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 2: other products year after year. It's almost like a reward. 536 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 2: The reward is you're allowed to buy it, and there's 537 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 2: like an unwritten rule book that people figure out what 538 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 2: rules to obey. 539 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 4: You don't say me, no, no, no, don't say me, this. 540 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 5: Is not my lifestyle cuckoo land. 541 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 2: All right, we got why don't. 542 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 5: You buy one for your wife? I'm sure that will 543 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 5: put in a very good mood. 544 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: Well, the night had the South American Gas break it 545 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 2: into the house, you have to put it in. 546 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 5: Some armed Uh. I'm not going to an armed security guard. 547 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 2: We don't have anything. We have paper bags. Okay, we 548 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:59,239 Speaker 2: have ziplock bags. My wife takes around all her All right, 549 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 2: when we come back, we're going to talk to Jim Desmond. 550 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 2: Jim Desmond is from San Diego's the San Diego County 551 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 2: Supervisor and he says San Diego is now the epicenter 552 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 2: for legal alien migration. All right, yay, Deborah Mark live 553 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,479 Speaker 2: in the CAFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, you've been 554 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 2: listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. 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