1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. Were on every day 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: from one to four o'clock and after four o'clock. If 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: you missed the show, the show always exists, it never 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: goes away. There's never an excuse. Go to John Cobelt's 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: show on demand on the iHeart app that's the podcast, 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: same as the radio show, and you can listen to 8 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: what you missed. So last Friday, we actually for a 9 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: few days we were awaiting the decision from the Ninth 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: Circuit Court of Appeal. A lower court judge had said 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: the Trump administration was unconstitutional in their illegal alien roundups 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: because they were taking people off the street and they 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 1: had no reasonable suspicion whether they were illegal or not. 14 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: And there was a lower court judge, Mohammi Usi Mensa Frimpong, 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: and she ruled the patrols were illegal, and this Court 16 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: of Appeals, I guess any unanimous decision, right, I agreed 17 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: with that decision. Today you had a press conference about it, 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: Michael Munks covering the whole story. 19 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a week ago today that that hearing 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 2: took place up in San Francisco, and we talked about 21 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: it on this very program. I played some clips from 22 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: that hearing. They stream those hearings on zoom. It was 23 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: a zoom hearing, and I played for you at that 24 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: time a clip from the proceeding that indicated to me 25 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: at least that the judges were not buying the argument 26 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: from the Trump administration on a very key point in 27 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 2: this case, which is, are immigration agents targeting people solely 28 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: based on their race, solely based on the language they're 29 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: overheard speaking, or solely based on the location that they 30 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: are car washes, home depot, parking lots, that sort of 31 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: thing that does not establish probable cause. And the government 32 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: had a hard time arguing the point. So today a 33 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: celebratory press conference of sorts brought on by the ACLU 34 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: of Southern California, one of the lead plaintiffs in this case, 35 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: and other immigrants rights organizations that are part of this 36 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: the City of La, the County of La, other local 37 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: cities are also part. 38 00:01:59,200 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: Of this thing. 39 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: The outside and this is what ACLU So Cal Executive 40 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: Director Chandra bot Nagar had to say about the government's argument. 41 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 3: As the court said, if the government suggests, quote that 42 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: they are not conducting stops that let lack reasonable suspicion. 43 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: They can hardly claim to be irreparably harmed by an 44 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: injunction aimed at preventing a subset of stops not supported 45 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: by reasonable suspicion end quote, Meaning, if the administration claims 46 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 3: it is not breaking the law, then why is it 47 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 3: fighting against an order that for visit from breaking the law. 48 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: And so the district court put out a temporary restraining 49 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: order that said you cannot just go around and pull 50 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: people aside because they're Hispanic, because they're speaking Spanish, or 51 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: because of where they are. The government's saying, we're not 52 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: doing that. So with the appeals court, the judges asked, 53 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 2: if you're not doing it, how is this temporary restraining 54 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 2: order harming your immigration efforts? And that to me seem 55 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: like the point where they lost right. Did they try 56 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: to have an answer to that? They did not have 57 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: a sufficient answer in the eyes of these judges. Keep 58 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: in mind, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals is the 59 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: same court that slapped down Governor Newsom in his fight 60 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: against President Trump over the National Guard being deployed here. 61 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: So it's kind of gone both ways on both sides 62 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: of these arguments against the Trump administration. On this one, 63 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: the White House just did not present an argument that 64 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: they are not targeting people based on those characteristics. 65 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: I can just hear I know from reading comments and 66 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: just the reactions of a lot of listeners. They'll say, Oh, 67 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: come on, if you drive up to a home depot 68 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: and there's twenty Hispanic guys loiter and around looking for work, 69 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: what do you think they are? If you go to 70 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: a car wash, right, and there's twenty young guys there, standard, 71 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: what do you think they are? 72 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: And that's similar to well, if you're driving in a 73 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: certain part of the city and you see a group 74 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: of guys in general on the corner, they're probably selling drugs, right, 75 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: but you can't just go up to them because they're 76 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: standing there. Even if you're likely right, you can't do it. Exactly. 77 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: That's exactly what this is saying. You have to have 78 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 2: a probable cause. The government's saying, no, we use a 79 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: vast intelligence to let us know where to go. 80 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: But this case was. 81 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: Triggered by one guy, Pedro Vasquez Perdomo. He was one 82 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 2: of those three guys you might remember. 83 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: Back in June. 84 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 2: It got some play in the media who was at 85 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: a bus stop in Pasadena in front of a donut 86 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 2: shop and they got swept up in this and taken 87 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: into custody. They were just waiting on Metro to pick 88 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: them up, and he says, the next thing, you know, 89 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: a bunch of mass guys who never identified themselves took 90 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,679 Speaker 2: us into custody. And so that is what triggered this case. 91 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: And these plaintiffs, the ACLU and others, and the local 92 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: governments have presented gobs of folks who have experienced something similar. 93 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: The government may have to pivot because this has been 94 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: held up at this point. 95 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: Right what they can do still legally is. 96 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: Have probable cause to approach illegal immigrants workplaces that sort 97 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: of thing. If they're able to gather any evidence to 98 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: suggest a certain workplace is hiring illegal immigrants, then they 99 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: can go in there and investigate. 100 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: But the fashion factory in downtown La exactly, which is 101 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: what ignited the riots, ironically, but they were going in 102 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: there because they done an investigation into the company's work practices, 103 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: who they hired. They had they claimed they were tax 104 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: violations going on, but they had all the investigation done, 105 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: they felt they had proved their case, and they got 106 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: a judge to sign a warrant letting them go in 107 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: right and then arrest who they wanted to arrest. That's right. 108 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: That seemed to be an extreme case because there were 109 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: other crimes being committed and there were illegal immigrants allegedly 110 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: working there as well. That issue was brought up by 111 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 2: La Worker Center Network executive director Armando Gudino, who spoke 112 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: today is celebrating this ruling. 113 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: Here's what he said. 114 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 4: Let me be clear, ice in law enforcement are not 115 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 4: above the law. The Fourth Amendment doesn't stop at the 116 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 4: gates of a car wash, at a garment factory or 117 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 4: in a strawberry field. This case is about dignity. It's 118 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 4: about drawing a line against fear and reminding this country 119 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 4: that immigrants are not the exception to the Constitution. We 120 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 4: are the living, breathing proof of it. 121 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: So even though there were accinuating circumstances involving the garment 122 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: district in that particular case, you can see from these 123 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: advocates that they don't agree with that particular raid either. 124 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: Right, but that rate was allowed because if they go in, 125 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: let's say they go in to go after management for 126 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: their paperwork crimes, through tax crimes. If they find illegal 127 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: aliens work there, they can grab those people. That's where 128 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: they have a legal pretext to enter the building. 129 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: And I know you got a run, but just by 130 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 2: way of an update or just for planning purposes, this 131 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: is a temporary restraining order. The Trump administration could take 132 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: this to the Supreme Court to get this overturned so 133 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 2: that they can resume the actions as they were doing them. Otherwise, 134 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 2: they might just wait this thing out because these plaintiffs 135 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: want a longer injunction and there's a hearing set for 136 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 2: that back at Judge Frimpong's court here at the lower 137 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: court level, the district court on September twenty five. 138 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: They want a permanent injunction. Indeed, Verry Good Michael a 139 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: couple months KFI News when we come back one of 140 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: the entities I absolutely despise in life, and I think 141 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: most people do. Our homeowners associations with their stupid, obsessive, compulsive, 142 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: anal retentive, picky un rules to torture people and extort money. Well, 143 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: who knew there's a new state law that just cuts 144 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: the legs out from under homeowners Associations and they can't 145 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: torture people anymore with their nonsense. Tell you all about 146 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: it and we come back. 147 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 148 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 5: six forty. 149 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: We're on every day from one until four o'clock. After 150 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: four o'clock John cobelts Show on demand on the iHeart. 151 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: I was just a minute ago teasing Deborah. You know, 152 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: she's always I don't know I'm going to say where 153 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: you're going or when you're going, but at some point 154 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: you're going to go on a vacation. And as you know, 155 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: i'd call this running joke, except this stunt a joke. 156 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: Terrible things happened to whatever country she goes and visits. Yes, 157 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: for example, she went to Scotland, right, and the queen died. Correct, 158 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: There's something that happens about once every hundred years. And 159 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: there you were, and then you were about to fly 160 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: to see Israel in. 161 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 6: Egypt exactly one week to the day, right. 162 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: And war breaks out. Yes, And you were going to 163 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: spend an overnight in Dubai and there was this massive flood. 164 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 6: Yes, which it's the worst flooding ever. 165 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 7: It's the worst flooding over I mean, airports are flooding, 166 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 7: and that's just the. 167 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: Last couple of years. Yes, don't forget getting COVID in Mexico, 168 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: in Mexico. 169 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 6: That's right, right, that's right. 170 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: So I'm you know, we're there's actually the state Department 171 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: has travel advisories and I'm. 172 00:08:58,640 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 6: Going to try and fly under the race. 173 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: Okay, here's something that's happening to me. We're going to 174 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: go back east later this summer, and we're gonna you know, 175 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: I got a place, We got a place in Florida, 176 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: and my son lives in North Carolina. So the idea 177 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: is go see my son in North Carolina and then 178 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: drive down to Florida and stop at some cities that 179 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 1: I've either rarely or never been to, because there's a 180 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: lot of beautiful, smaller cities in the South. One of 181 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: it's like Charleston, South Carolina, which I've only seen once, 182 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: and another one is Savannah, Georgia, which my wife was 183 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: two once and says it's absolutely gorgeous. So I've been, 184 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: you know, looking up things to do in Charleston and 185 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: Savannah as we as we drive down the coast, and 186 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: this story just jumped out at me. Over the weekend, 187 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: they have found radioactive WASP nests it says here in 188 00:09:54,679 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: South Carolina along the Savannah River radio active wasp nests. 189 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: This site used to play a major role in nuclear 190 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: bomb production, and it's called the Savannah River Site. It's 191 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: a nuclear facility near Aiken, and they produced plutonium and 192 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: tritium during the Cold War. Well, they found four nests, 193 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: and apparently they haven't done a good job with the 194 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: nuclear waste, the leftover nuclear radiation, because they they tested 195 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: the nests and it had had ten They had ten 196 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: times higher than the limit allowed by the federal government 197 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: for radiation radioactive nests. It was near tanks of stored 198 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: liquid nuclear waste. Well, it looks like the liquid leak, 199 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: didn't it. They sprayed the nests with insecticide and removed 200 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: them and they had to disposed of them as radioactive waste. 201 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: No wasps were found inside, but it means the wasps 202 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: are loose, then the wasps may be radioactive. 203 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 6: Are you still gonna go? 204 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: Well, I'm not stopping in this I'm not stopping in 205 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: this town. Wasps are chests. 206 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 6: Oh, I am terrified. 207 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: My wife once got stung by a wasp. She went 208 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: right down. She's got bad allergies when she gets stung 209 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: by a beer or a wasp. She's she's laid out 210 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: on the ground, like right on the sidewalk. It said 211 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: the nests were contaminated with radioactive contamination leftover radiation from 212 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: the weapons production era. They claim it was not caused 213 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: by a leak, that it was always sitting there, and 214 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: then they found three more nests at the facility. They're 215 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: called hot wasps. They could be contaminated, right, Yes, if 216 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: you're living in a nuclear nest, you're going to be 217 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: flying around and you can I guess they glow in 218 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: the dark at night. You can see them coming from 219 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: a couple of blocks away. 220 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 6: Good that you could see them coming. 221 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, just walk around with a Geiger counter. As soon 222 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: as it starts ticking, you know you're They claim there's 223 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: no evidence of public danger. I wonder how many other 224 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: stories are like this. So they now four wasp wasp nests. 225 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: That is not an easy phrase to say, four wasp 226 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: nests in UH in custody, claiming it's it's it's a 227 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: low level of radiation ten times higher than the limits. 228 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: So it's not that long. So if if I see 229 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: any wasps when they're going on our trip, UH huh, 230 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: all right, we come back. Now, I'm going to do 231 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: the homeowners. Were we ever in a homeowners association? 232 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 7: I I wasn't, but my grandmother was. 233 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: People. Yes, right, homeowners' associations are really deranged. 234 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 6: They don't have anything better to do. 235 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: They're power hungry, power drunk. Yeah, there's all kinds of 236 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: questionable things always happening with the money. Oh yeah, yay. 237 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: I've rarely been involved with one, but it's not a 238 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: pleasant experience. Well, there's a new California housing bill that 239 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: was passed by the state. This is a rare bill 240 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: that Newsom signed. Well, they just cut the legs out 241 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: from under the homeowners' associations regarding all the fines that 242 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: they could levy for pickyuon violations. Tell you about it. 243 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: We come back. 244 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 245 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 5: six forty. 246 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: We're on every day from one until four o'clock, and 247 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: after four o'clock it's the John Cobilt Show on demand homeowners' associations. 248 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: I know many listeners in the area, especially in Orange County, 249 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: have to live with these and I remember one day 250 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: I was teasing people in Orange County because so many 251 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: people live in these beige stucco boxes, and I didn't 252 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: understand why the color of every stucco box had to 253 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: be beige. And I started finding out with homeowners associations 254 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: that they have spices that go door to door. And 255 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: if you put like a flower box on your windowsill, right, 256 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: so you have pretty flowers to look at, that could 257 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: be a violation and they'll come by and you'll get 258 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: fined like one hundred dollars every day forever. If you 259 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: leave your garage door open, that's a fine. If your 260 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: kid leaves his bicycle on the driveway, that's a fine. 261 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 7: Now there is a benefit, though, I'm just going to 262 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 7: say that you're not going to have these yucky, beat 263 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 7: up old cars that just sit in front of your 264 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 7: house forever and nobody. 265 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 6: Claims them, right. 266 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 7: That would be cooped up and other unsightly things that 267 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 7: happen all the time in my neighborhood. 268 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,119 Speaker 1: So you're you have the soul of a homeowners association 269 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: director only. 270 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 6: Because of that stuff. 271 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 7: But if I want to paint my house a certain color, 272 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 7: but also though I really don't want to live next 273 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 7: door to somebody that paints their house hot, pink, even 274 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 7: though I do like hot. 275 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: That's that's one of your one of your favorite coming. 276 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 6: I know I love hot. 277 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: You're you're famous for your hot pink outfit. 278 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 7: But I but you don't want to live in a 279 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 7: house next door to a hot pink house. 280 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: Well I would, right, there's probably an interesting woman that 281 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: lives there. Well, there is homeowner association. The thing is, 282 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: you know, they start out with reasonable rules, but they 283 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: quickly get unreasonable and dictatorial. You give people with tiny 284 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: brains just a little bit of power. I've seen it. 285 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: I've seen it working here. The people with the tiniest 286 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: brains who have a little bit of power are the 287 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: biggest pains in the asses in the world. Those people 288 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: don't work here anymore. But this homeowners association law took 289 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: effect July the first, And now, when you commit a violation, 290 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: I'll give you an example here. They got it. They 291 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: got a great story. Jinna Kim homeowners association said she 292 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: couldn't fix a doorway inside her condo. So this is 293 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: not even hot pink stucco here. Okay, Uh, she did 294 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: it anyway. I thought it would be okay. The doorway 295 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: completely inside her home, separated an office in a dining room. 296 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: But then the complex's manager peeked into her place through 297 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: an open garage door. 298 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 6: Oh oh, well she should have had her garage door open. 299 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: Well, you say, not only could she get fined for 300 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: leaving it open, but it allowed this, this spy this Karen, Yeah, 301 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: saw the renovation and j got to notice the next day. 302 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: It's one hundred dollars fine at first, but then it 303 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: becomes five hundred dollars a day, thirty five hundred dollars 304 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: a week forever. Well, that's ridiculous, not easy to fix. 305 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: A Well, you have a new doorway. How do you 306 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: get rid of that quickly? You don't. But July first, 307 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom, and this is the first good thing he's 308 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: done in the last six and a half years, signed 309 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: Assembly Bill one thirty into law, and now fines are 310 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: capped at a total of one hundred dollars, not one 311 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: hundred dollars a day, total one hundred dollars. And Kim said, 312 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,959 Speaker 1: for years HOA has been able to bend entire communities 313 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: to their will on a whim. This stops that. And 314 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: everybody was surprised because they were it was supposed to 315 00:17:55,720 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: be one bill and then the the HOA lobbyist thought 316 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: that they had amended it properly, but somebody took the 317 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: language out and snuck it into another bill, and the 318 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: lobbyists were taken by surprise. They didn't see this coming. 319 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: It bans interest and late this on violations. It prohibits Homeowners' 320 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: associations from disciplining homeowners as long as they address violations 321 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: before the hearing. And again it's only a one hundred 322 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: dollars one time fee. And because the most obnoxious people 323 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: in society end up on homeowner sports, they do. 324 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's no. 325 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: I know it's true. I know it's true. I remember 326 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: years ago when I went on about them and making 327 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: fun of the base stucco boxes. You know, they started 328 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: calling me up. Well, you don't understand though, you know, 329 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: you have a lot of crime there, like we don't 330 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: have crime here, all right, This is why it's like, 331 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: wait a second, you're stopping crime because you don't allow 332 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: flower boxes on a windowsill. You're stopping crime because you 333 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: don't allow hot pink on your stucco. 334 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 6: But again, there are and if it's the examples that 335 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 6: I gave. 336 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: You, well, you know, beige offends me. Why would look 337 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: it does. 338 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 7: If every house is beije and looks exactly the same, 339 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 7: I get it. 340 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 6: I understand. 341 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: You know what upsets me is conformity. When I see 342 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: beij stucco houses as far as the eye can can see, 343 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: it's like I start to actually get mad. 344 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 6: Well, but you don't have to live in that community. 345 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: I know, and I wouldn't, but I'm just seeing it 346 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: triggers me. I got upset. I remember one time we 347 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: had friends who lived down the block from us, when 348 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: our kids are really small. All the all the sons 349 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: were friends, and then they moved to Orange County, Lamarata, 350 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: and we went to visit them for Halloween. We were 351 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: going to walk this beautiful beij stucco neighborhood because it 352 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: was really safe, right, good place to go for Halloween. 353 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: And the wife is Asian and we knew she had 354 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: an Asian mother. Well, we walked into a bay stucco 355 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: house and an older Asian woman answered the door, and 356 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: she was very nice and polite, and we went into 357 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: the living girl and sat down with her. 358 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 6: Oh, I know where this is going. 359 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: It took about ten minutes to realize that's not our 360 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: friend's mother. This is not our friend's house, but because 361 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,959 Speaker 1: all the homes looked alike and she looked like our 362 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: friend's mother. Actually, we did that twice in Orange County. 363 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, don't you read an address? 364 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: We went, We got invited to a party. We went 365 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: to the party and they had ballet and they parked 366 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: our car and we were dressed up, and we walked 367 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: in and they handed us a glass of wine. And 368 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: we started milling about looking for the friend who invited 369 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: us and couldn't find them, and just started asking around. Realized, oh, 370 00:20:54,000 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: wrong party. Twice in my life, both times in Orange County. 371 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 6: Wow, that's all I can say. 372 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: It's I don't know, is it me or is it them? No? 373 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 7: I mean I know there are some houses seriously that 374 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 7: look exactly the same. But you have to look at 375 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 7: the address so you don't make that mistake. 376 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: I got No. One of my family members lives in 377 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: a I mean, it's a nice neighborhood, right, All the 378 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: homes look alike. Every time I go visit. Not every time, 379 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: maybe about half the time. I pull up to the 380 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: wrong driveway, get out of the car, start walking up 381 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: to the wrong house. That's three times. 382 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobbels on demand from KFI AM 383 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 5: six forty can if. 384 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: I aim six forty. More stimulating talk radio moistline is 385 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: eight seven seven moist eighty six. For Friday, you better 386 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: call eight seven seven Moist eighty six. Use the talkback 387 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: feature on the iHeartRadio app and shortly after four o'clock 388 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: maybe you're just joining us now, geez or are you late? 389 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: Listen to the podcast John Cobolt Show on demand, also 390 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: on the iHeart app. Boy Oh Boy, one idiot after 391 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: another has been running Sacramento. Their old mayor was Darryl Steinberg, 392 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: who is just a steaming pile, and he used to 393 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,239 Speaker 1: be the Senate leader. The new mayor is a guy 394 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: named Kevin McCarty. And I bring them up because Steinberg 395 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: used to allow mental patience and drug addict vagrants to 396 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:35,959 Speaker 1: sleep on city hall grounds overnight, so then everybody worked 397 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: at city Hall and Sacramento had to step over all 398 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: the needles and feces and dying bodies every day. Steinberg 399 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: didn't seem to care how terrifying that might be. Or 400 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: maybe government workers or such zombies they don't notice. I'm 401 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: convinced a lot of government workers are on or on 402 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: Sentinel anyway, because they're they're usual, they always seem to 403 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: be in a stupor. So then you know, the homeless 404 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: got attracted. All the vagrants came to city Hall and 405 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 1: they would hang out all day and all night on 406 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: the streets nearby and the park across the street. No 407 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: whole neighborhood was destroyed by Steinberg's policy. So a new 408 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: guy comes in, Kevin McCarty, and he's got a new policy. 409 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 1: The vagrants, the mental patients, the drug addicts cannot sleep 410 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: outside City Hall anymore. I have a new ordinance, no 411 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,479 Speaker 1: homeless drug addicts between nine pm and six am. This 412 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: is from California Globe dot Com Katie Grimes because McCarty said, 413 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: cleaning up after the drug addicts and mental patients cost 414 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: taxpayers three hundred and fifty five thousand dollars a year 415 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: just for sleeping on the city hall property. And so 416 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: this sounds great, right, McCarty is undoing a really stupid idea. 417 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: It's going to save a lot of money. Except they 418 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 1: don't send the homeless for mandatory mental health and drug treatment. 419 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: They just tell them, you know, get off by lawn basically, 420 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: So now they're going to be wandering around all the 421 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: local streets. Now that they invited a whole community, they're 422 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,959 Speaker 1: going to be wandering around all the local streets and 423 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: the businesses and in the parks, and sometimes they wander 424 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: into neighborhood homes. There's nothing in the ordinance that sends 425 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: them forces them into treatment. Now, you know what's amazing. 426 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: For all the lobbying and bribery that goes on, businesses 427 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: in all these cities seem incapable of bribing the mayor 428 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: and the city council with enough money to get them 429 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: to toss these people once. 430 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 6: And for all. 431 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: You know'll build some kind of asylum and take them 432 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: there again, forced treatment. I will say this till I 433 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: drop dead. If they don't mandate force treatment, this is 434 00:24:55,240 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: never going away. Never. And Steinberger was mayor for quite 435 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: some time, and he never did anything about the mentally ill, 436 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: drug addicted population that lives in the streets, even though 437 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: you know, when he was in the Senate he was 438 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: very proud of his millionaire's tax. It added an extra 439 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: percentage point on wealthy people income text and the money 440 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: was supposed to go for mental health treatment. And I 441 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: remember a few years later they had all this money 442 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: sitting in various accounts, and much of it wasn't spent 443 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: because they didn't know what to spend it on, because 444 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: back in two thousand and three, two thousand and four, 445 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:44,959 Speaker 1: they didn't have this problem. And there's a councilwoman up 446 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: in Sacramento named my Thang, and she was against the change. 447 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: She was against this new Mayor Kevin McCarty's ordinance to 448 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: get the homeless off city hall property. And she said, 449 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: this policy does not build housing. This policy does not 450 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: treat the health of our neighbors. Oh man, that's Garcetti language. 451 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: Our neighbors, Yes, our fellow Angelinos. This policy does not 452 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: address the root causes of the crisis, all true. But 453 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: the root causes of the crisis are mental illness and drugs. 454 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: So you have to force them into treatment, right, police, 455 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: police use the police, round them up at gunpoint if necessary, 456 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: and put them in vans and lock them up and 457 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: treat them. It's the only thing that'll work. We've done 458 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,719 Speaker 1: ten years the other way and they won't do that, 459 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: which is fascinating. Of course, I don't know if there's 460 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: enough mental health professionals and drug addiction professionals that exist 461 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: to staff these would be facilities, but they never build any, 462 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: they never staff them. They and we know why because 463 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: they don't actually care. Eventually, all the people sleeping on 464 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: City Hull are going to die. They're gonna die of 465 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: their drug addiction and mental illness. They're gonna there's I'm 466 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: sure they're carried off regularly. This is because the whole 467 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: industry is meant to enrich nonprofits, where most of the 468 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: major players in any nonprofit are making well into six figures, 469 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: and there's just lots of money for everybody. And you know, 470 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: when when when something doesn't happen for ten years, you 471 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: have to say why. I mean, everybody knows it's mental 472 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: illness and drug addicts, so why don't we put them 473 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: into treatment? Force them into treatment. Everybody goes silent, Well, no, 474 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: you don't do that because that would get them off 475 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: the streets, make some of them better. That ends the racket. 476 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,719 Speaker 1: Then no more money for the for the nonprofits. So 477 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: the scam goes to live another day. I don't know 478 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: when the public figures this out. Public's largely scrolling. All right, 479 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: we come back, We've got Conway next, and then we 480 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: have Michael Krozer right now with the news live in 481 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: the CAFI twenty four our newsroom. Hey, you've been listening 482 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always hear 483 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: the show live on KFI AM six forty from one 484 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: to four pm every Monday through Friday, and of course, 485 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app