1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: Welcome into Northside Territory, Foul Territory Networks Cubs podcast. I'm 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: Sahadev Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are your 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic. Patrick, we have 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: a cubby occurrence to kick off the week. Michael Siroco 5 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: is supposed to did make his first start as a Cub. 6 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: Lasted just two innings, exits with a shoulder issue, shoulder strain. 7 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: It's you know, we weren't sure it was this the 8 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: like it was kind of interesting in the press box. 9 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: Is this a plan? Are they going Ben Brown? Like 10 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: this is a two in like this he truly is 11 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: leaning into outgetter. 12 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 2: Huh. 13 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: He went basically one time through the lineup. He looked 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: pretty good, you know, even though he was still sitting 15 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: down as far as the velocity goes, he was down 16 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 1: about three miles per hour from his you know, kind of. 17 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: Peak of the season. 18 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: So obviously that's not the case. Exited with a shoulder injury. 19 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: The news isn't awful. He doesn't. At least initial news 20 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: isn't awful. 21 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 3: They had the MRI. 22 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: Mild to moderate strain I believe was the terminology used. 23 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: But shut down for seven to ten days and then 24 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: they'll go from there. So they're hoping that going from 25 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: there means Okay, he throws and he's pain free. We've 26 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: gone through these things before. Well let's talk about that 27 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: in seven to ten days when he's throwing again. But 28 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: right now, you know, the optics of this, they are 29 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: brutal when they knew, we all knew that his velocity 30 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: was found, long injury history, desperate for starting pitching, and 31 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: the one starting pitching acquisition they get goes down after 32 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: two innings. 33 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: Just just a bad look. 34 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think everyone maybe didn't see this coming, 35 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 4: but saw the potential for this going sideways. Maybe not 36 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 4: as quickly as it did, but our understanding. You know, 37 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 4: when we floated his name before the All Star break, 38 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 4: was with the idea like, hey, this could be a 39 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 4: nice complimentary piece to the pitching staff. Maybe he's a 40 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 4: spot starter a couple turns through rotation. His stuff could 41 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 4: play nicely out of the bullpen. The Cubs are good with, 42 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 4: you know, these flexible, versatile pieces for a pitching staff. 43 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 4: But when that five PM deadline rolled around and there 44 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 4: was no like buzzer beater deal coming in for another 45 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 4: innings eater for you know, an accomplished starting pitcher. I mean, 46 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 4: the Cubs left themselves open here for second guessing, and 47 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 4: we understand that you know, McKenzie Gore or Joe Ryan 48 00:02:55,639 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 4: were not traded, and maybe those prices were not only exorbitant, 49 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 4: what would have damaged this year's chances to win when 50 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 4: you if we're talking about trading off a major league roster, 51 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 4: but to not get a Charlie Morton, one of those 52 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 4: type of guys, it was. It was surprising and not 53 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 4: even critical. It's just like, if you've been following this 54 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 4: team and trying to think along with the front office 55 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 4: and understand where they're coming from, you were expecting that 56 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 4: other guy. 57 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally get the argument of, you know, now 58 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: understanding what the cost was like not getting one of 59 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: those controllable guys was It makes sense. I get it. 60 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: It was going to cost you from your major league roster. 61 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: Teams weren't budging, they were, you know, doing the stare 62 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: down thinking the other the buyers would budge. It sounds 63 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: like Boston was in a similar situation, really tried to 64 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: pry some of these guys away and the cost was 65 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: major league talent. And they have a better farm system 66 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: than the Cubs do, and they still weren't gonna, you know, 67 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: just take prospects. 68 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 3: Uh. 69 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: I agree, you'd you'd have liked to have seen one 70 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: more depth arm. I think they saw Soroka as the 71 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: depth arm and and had a sod and tie on 72 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: coming back and and thought that was that was the 73 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: depth they could do. And and I you know, uh 74 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: Jed Hoyer did speak on Tuesday, and and he did 75 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: he took. 76 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 3: The blame for it. 77 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: He he didn't he didn't try and make too many excuses. 78 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: His his ultimate point was they saw upside with Soroka. 79 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: They thought of the costs of everyone else, they liked 80 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:45,559 Speaker 1: him the most. They thought it was worth the risk 81 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: considering the upside. They were making an upside play instead 82 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: of going with a safe bet with like a So 83 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: you know, you could say Adrian Hauser has a much 84 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: lower ceiling and a safer floor because especially due to 85 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: the injury, the injury history, and Soroka has those peripherals, 86 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: peripherals that make you say, hmm, maybe he could give 87 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,799 Speaker 1: you five really good innings, six really good innings every 88 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: fifth day. And I think that's kind of the way 89 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: they looked at it and they made the bet. Sometimes 90 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: that pays off, sometimes it doesn't. I think you can't 91 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: compare it to Matthew Boyd because Matthew Boyd was trending 92 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 1: in the right direction and really healthy. He'd gone through 93 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 1: all the major injuries and he had shown he was 94 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: healthy for a significant period of time or a decent 95 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: period of time, and then they were betting on that 96 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: continuing trajectory. 97 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: If the velocity. 98 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: Drop hadn't have happened and this came out of nowhere, 99 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: really came out of nowhere, and you're saying, well, he 100 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: has a long history of injuries. I would have been like, look, 101 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: it's fine, he was trending in the right direction. This 102 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: because he wasn't trending in the right direction, that makes 103 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: it a little harder to just be like, eh, shrug 104 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: it off, say this is what happens. There's always risk, 105 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: especially when you require a picture you could get nothing 106 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: from them. That's something that THEO used to say, you 107 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: have to look go into any acquisition of like we 108 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: just paid this amount of money and we may get nothing. 109 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: You don't know if an injury is going to happen immediately, 110 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: and it kind of just happened. 111 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 4: That's a good a good off forgotten theoism. I like 112 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 4: that one. That is good because the reality is they 113 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 4: may wind up with nothing after not getting that additional starter, 114 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 4: or even they essentially ruled out those kind of top 115 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 4: shelf closers right of, like that was not worth the 116 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 4: prospect capital in their mind. And now it's an even 117 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 4: greater sense of like, all right, you have all these 118 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 4: prospects at Triple A. You have lots of kind of 119 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 4: like depth arm, change of scenery types. It's just hard 120 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 4: to imagine there wasn't one more deal out there again 121 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 4: because you you know how this front office thinks. They're 122 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 4: constantly worried about what could go wrong, and every team 123 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 4: emphasizes pitching death. But I think the Cubs have very 124 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 4: much kind of put the money, put their money where 125 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 4: their mouth is, of you know, signing a Colin Ray, 126 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 4: of you know, overhauling their systems to where they have 127 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 4: like a lot of death. But do you have a 128 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 4: guy you trust to face the Brewers in the middle 129 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 4: of August, you know, during that five five game series 130 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 4: over over four days. And so that's the one where 131 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 4: I thought eventually we'd be having this conversation. I think 132 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 4: it would be after two winnings from Soroka. 133 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say Ben Brown looked really good, and 134 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: I almost wonder like having him just have to go 135 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: out there without having to think about, you know, preparing 136 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: for a start, or being told like, hey, be ready, 137 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: you're coming in after the first inning, any of that stuff. 138 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: None of that was in his head. He was just like, 139 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: I got to warm up quickly and go out there 140 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: and pitch. I wonder how much of that helps him, 141 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: how much he he's a thinker out there and an 142 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: overthinker at times. I feel like he can one mistake 143 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: he starts overthinking that he needs to just get out 144 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: of his own head and go and pitch. Because he's 145 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: got so much talent, obviously he's going to be a 146 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: part of this. ASSAD starts where we're Asad started Wednesday, and. 147 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 3: I think they're kind of like massaging things. Now. 148 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: We have an off day Thursday and off day Monday. 149 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: We're seeing show to start on normal rest on Sunday 150 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: in Saint Louis, So they're not scrambling for that fifth 151 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: starter right now. I think they're gonna work with what 152 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: they have, take advantage of the off days, but Asad 153 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: will eventually be an option. Ty On has one start 154 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: and on Friday, and then we'll kind of see where 155 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: he goes from there. It could be back, could give 156 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: him another start. I think they're leaning another start so 157 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: that there are options that in semi trusted options when 158 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: when guys are coming off injuries, I just don't want 159 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: to say they're trusted yet, Like showed a coming off injury. 160 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: You wanted to see him go out there and perform 161 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: in a major league game. He did brilliant right away. 162 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 3: But. 163 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: Just don't know, so you ty One is a workhorse, 164 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: trustworthy and as far as inning, Zeter and stuff like that, 165 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: so as long as he's healthy and goes out there, 166 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: you're going to feel comfortable with him as part of 167 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: the rotation going forward. And Asad's great depth piece. So 168 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 1: they have these guys, just kind of thought they were 169 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: going to add one more. And I think if there's 170 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: a criticism, if you don't want to criticize, like, hey, 171 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: this is the market, they didn't they shouldn't have done this, 172 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: that or the other, I think the criticism is this 173 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: for me at least, it's look, they have these great 174 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: top prospects they have a really good top of the farm, 175 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: but once you get past like five six seven in 176 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: their in their prospect system. 177 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 3: There's a drop off and there's some guys that have upsided. 178 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: I'm not saying none of these guys are gonna pan out, 179 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: but they don't have like this middle this middle ground 180 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: that gets you the Merrill Kelly's, that gets you the 181 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: Charlie Morton's. They just didn't they don't have enough of those. 182 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: I think the system needs to isn't. I'm not saying 183 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: it's a bad system. It's just one of those things 184 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: that can cost you at times like this. I don't 185 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they lined up well with the Diamondbacks, 186 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: to be honest, I think that may have been an issue. 187 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: But just saying overall, to get some of these guys, 188 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: you need different pieces that they had enough to get Soroca. 189 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: So you know, that's the bet they made. 190 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: Maybe that would have been the similar cost to get 191 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: Houser or to get Morton whatever that they chose Soroka. 192 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: And right now it's a like a like, like Jed 193 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: said it, maybe it may have been a bad bet, 194 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: and that's on him. 195 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 4: No, I mean, that's a great point that I think 196 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 4: we haven't really hammered yet the way that we should have. 197 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 4: Maybe the system just isn't that good. Like I don't 198 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 4: know if there's a Cubs prospect has ever been under 199 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 4: hyped or undervalued. I mean, like, you know, the baseball 200 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 4: industry told us something here. I mean, Charlie Morton looked 201 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 4: really good his first start against the Phillies for the Tigers. 202 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 4: And what it cost a six foot seven left handed 203 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 4: reliever in a ball an eleventh round pick last year 204 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 4: Micah Ashman, I mean, look really really good numbers. I 205 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 4: mean as a pure reliever. Obviously there's size, there's left 206 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 4: handedness there interesting, but Cubs don't have someone like that 207 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 4: out there or like they're not willing to give up 208 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 4: that guy. Like to me, I think, you know, you 209 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,359 Speaker 4: you move those pitching prospects, Like even if they're good 210 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 4: and sticking the majors, the reality shows are probably gonna 211 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 4: spend what like two years on the injured list, like 212 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 4: we're covering from Tommy John. I mean, like I'm just 213 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 4: looking at like DJ Hurs is really interesting prospect. He 214 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 4: pitched you know, fairly well, very well at times for 215 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 4: the Nationals, but you know, he's on the shelf. I 216 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 4: just don't. I think the risk sometimes is just holding 217 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 4: on to these guys too long. Obviously, there, we don't 218 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 4: have all the information here. We're not pretending to be experts, 219 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 4: but I think it's fair to raise these questions if 220 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 4: you've followed this developmental path of what the Cubs have 221 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 4: been building and just knowing the numbers game of like 222 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 4: you only got tony six players in the majors at 223 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 4: the time, only thirteen pitchers, Like there wasn't someone in 224 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 4: South Bend or Myrtle Beach or a complex league whatever 225 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 4: to get you some more major league help right now. 226 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 4: And I think it segues into our next segment here, 227 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 4: just kind of the future and how Jed Hoyer views 228 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 4: things and how Cubs chairman Tom Rickett looks looks at 229 00:12:59,360 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 4: things too. 230 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 3: Yep, exactly. 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Slash foul use the code foul to 253 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 5: get twenty percent off your first lap pack or card purchase. 254 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: Patrick, we talked about Jed Hoyer's extension last week. I 255 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: don't think it came as a stock, but you know it. 256 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: Timing made sense. A little before the deadline, a little 257 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: bit of security, go and make those moves. Tom Ricketts spoke, 258 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: I believe on Friday so a week ago at Wrigley field, 259 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: you were there, What what did he have to say 260 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: about the Jed Hoyer extension and you know, giving that 261 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: vote of confidence more than just a vote of confidence, 262 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: giving him the you know, a. 263 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: Few more years to continue to run this team. 264 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 4: Well, it was interesting. We don't know how many years. 265 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 4: That is a departure from previous organizational kind of procedure. 266 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 4: When I asked, he said, we're not talking about terms. 267 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 4: And then I suggested we'll maybe lining him up with 268 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 4: Craig Council, which would be four three more years. Said 269 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 4: nothing that complicated, So yeah, we don't know when when 270 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 4: this deal runs out, which you know, theo Epstein got 271 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 4: two five year deals. They that was right in the 272 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 4: press release. That did not require any sort of digging. 273 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 4: Same with Jed Hoyer when he was promoted from general 274 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 4: manager she present the baseball operations, it was a five 275 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 4: year term. So well, see it was just a very 276 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 4: interesting timing. I mean that week was we've been covering 277 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 4: this team for a long time, obviously, like twenty sixteen 278 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 4: was a sustained run of just like that playoff was, 279 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 4: you know, working every day for however many days in 280 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 4: a row. The set off at twenty one just huge. 281 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 4: There's been plenty of like huge stories, but I don't 282 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 4: know if we've had a week quite like last week 283 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 4: where you have the extension announced, the death of Ryan Sandberg, 284 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 4: a huge series in Milwaukee, the trade deadline, the build up, 285 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 4: and then also kind of an underwhelming finale, and then 286 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 4: this Wriggley All Star announcement, the long awaited twenty twenty 287 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 4: seven All Star announcements. Like having all these things come together. 288 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 4: I had trouble thinking of like a more diversified, busy 289 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 4: sort of Newsy week to have like five or six 290 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 4: different topics all colliding at once. 291 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it was. It was hectic. I forgot some 292 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 3: of it. 293 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: I got there, I wasn't there Friday, and then I 294 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: came Saturday and I was like, jeez, Patrick did, like 295 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: how many different stories did he have? And that was 296 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: just from Friday. So it was a it was a 297 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: hectic week, absolutely, And it's I think the Jed, you know, 298 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: the Ricketts just kind of talking about this in the 299 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: sense of like being so vague about how long he's there. 300 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: I wonder how much I wonder if it's just as 301 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: simple as we're not going to go through this again, 302 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: where you guys are asking these questions, whether it's two 303 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: years from now, four years from now, whatever it is, 304 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: we're not doing this, you know, but it's going to 305 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: get leaked. 306 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 3: It's not like I've net. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong, 307 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 3: but I just I find. 308 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: It hard to believe that at some point like we 309 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: won't know that it's a lame duck here for Jed Hoyer. 310 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: But or maybe this is just a new trend with 311 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: the cubs of white Sox like behavior of being opaque 312 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: with executives years. Yeah, I think both Jed and Tom 313 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: I wasn't there for the Tom Ray Kids press conference. 314 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: I think Jed seems very secure and confident that this 315 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: this was and impacting his decision making at the deadline. 316 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: I never really expected it to. But you know, when 317 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: you have the deadline that you did, I think people 318 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: the questions immediately come and people start to wonder. Tom 319 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: Rickets seemed like he kind of took the I didn't 320 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: expect him to be like, well, that was a terrible 321 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: deadline and now I regret the extension. But he was 322 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: just backing Jed up and saying what we've said already 323 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: about like, hey, sometimes these things don't line up. 324 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 3: It's not like he didn't try. 325 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 4: No, And I think this underscores that Jed runs the 326 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 4: team the way ownership wants, and that's by saying that 327 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 4: it's not an implicit criticism or saying that they have 328 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 4: a lack of imagination. Like no, this is pretty much 329 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 4: the vision that they laid out of. We're going to 330 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 4: be conservative largely, we're going to invest in young talent. 331 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 4: We're going to build around that. We're gonna be really 332 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 4: targeted in kind of the bigger deals that they do. 333 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 4: You know, mortgaging the farm system is not something that 334 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 4: Ricketts wants to see. And also I think within the 335 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 4: front office looking at their payroll which is relatively large, 336 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 4: but like relatively small when compared to the Mets and Dodgers. 337 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 4: You know, it depends on whether you look inward at 338 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 4: the division and compare it that way, or if you 339 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 4: look across baseball you know, it's not it doesn't really 340 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 4: blow you away. So you need that stockpile, you need 341 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 4: that pipeline of prospects coming up, those low cost, cheap labor. 342 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 4: That is what great teams are often built around and 343 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 4: then supplemented with the right pieces. So like I'm sure 344 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 4: as they're talking with ownership of it would take this 345 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 4: to get player X. Those were non starters and you know, 346 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 4: I will say we talked about this earlier. You know, 347 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 4: Jed is not someone who is going to act like 348 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 4: a j preller at the deadline. Anyways, even if his 349 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 4: contract was still unresolved, I think he'd feel pretty good 350 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 4: about where things are. And also, you know, he kind 351 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 4: of has to live with, you know, the fallout one 352 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 4: way or the other. And I'd imagine he's pretty comfortable 353 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 4: with that of just seeing how the rest of the 354 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 4: season plays out and having those pieces to you know, 355 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 4: maybe revisit some of these trade talks and you know, 356 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 4: maybe things do work out, maybe tie on a sad 357 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 4: out getters all of it works and you can kind 358 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 4: of have it, have it both ways. But yeah, like 359 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 4: right now, this week, I'm sure there's a lot of 360 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 4: there's a at least a degree of second guessing. It's 361 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 4: almost impossible not to do that job and wonder like, 362 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 4: could we have pushed in a little more. 363 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's a I think that's natural and 364 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: and it when when the team is struggling, comes out 365 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: of the gate that you have all these second guessing questions, 366 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: did this did the is the team down because they 367 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: didn't make the big move? 368 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:26,719 Speaker 4: Uh? 369 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 3: You know what? 370 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: Or is it going to cost them more than just 371 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: a couple of games? All these different questions. It's easy 372 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: to second guess. 373 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 3: Uh. 374 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: And and I'm not saying I'm not doing it. I 375 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: wondered it at the time. I immediately wondered like should 376 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: they have added more? 377 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 3: Uh? 378 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, that that's just not Jed's attitude. I think 379 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: we're going to have to talk about a lot about 380 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: the farm system. I think I don't want to say 381 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: it's critical, it's always its Every off season is critical. 382 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 3: But I think the farm system and how they. 383 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: Attack, how they use their money this winter is going 384 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: to be interesting. 385 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 3: You you wrote an interesting uh. 386 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: You you focused a little bit on this on your 387 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: jet Extension piece and we talked about it in the 388 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: last podcast. But Uh, they're getting into the Japanese market 389 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: and kind of getting a foothold there is important. And 390 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: I think we're past the trade deadline, we're kind of 391 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: at a point where teams are going to be scouting 392 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: the Japanese league a little bit more than MPB a 393 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: little bit more. Now that's probably gonna be another topic 394 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,959 Speaker 1: again this offseason for us when it comes to the Cubs, 395 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: what what do they do in that market? Is there 396 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: you talked about like the money that they can spend. 397 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: That's a way to get impact, better talent and not 398 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: spend as much money. Perhaps potentially we'll see who's available. 399 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: We'll we'll have a better understanding of that in a 400 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: couple of months. But I think that's something we got 401 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: to I think for me, I almost forgot about that. 402 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: We spent so much time on that early in the 403 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: spring and the opening of the season, and then you 404 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: bring that back up, it's like, oh, yeah, that's such 405 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: a huge part of what they do in the off season. 406 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: So again, that's a way to maybe get some value. 407 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: I think trading prospects is another way that they may 408 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: have to improve this team in the offseason. 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Like Ryan Samberg was 442 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: having an amazing season. It was an MVP caliber season, 443 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: forty home runs, he won the I mean this kind 444 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: of is fitting for the current version of Wrigley Fields. 445 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: He won the home run Derby with three home runs 446 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: because the wind was blowing in that night. I just 447 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: kind of love love that thinking about that right now, 448 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: because of how the ballpark has been playing of late. 449 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: I mean, they've put in a lot of work to 450 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: make sure they get the All Star Game back. 451 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 3: They've worked with the city, they've worked with the league, 452 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 3: and you know it's. 453 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: Going to I don't want to look at it in 454 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: the media sense, because then it won't be as exciting. 455 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 1: I'll look at it through my son's eyes and say, 456 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: this is really cool for the city and a very 457 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: exciting moment for the Cups. 458 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 4: No doubt. I mean, we started the show with a 459 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 4: kubby occurrence. I do think this is a bit of 460 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 4: a cubby occurrence as well as when they have this, 461 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 4: they finally get to the announcement and people are willing 462 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 4: to talk about it, and Rob Manford's in the home 463 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 4: dugout asking questions about, well, what's the contingency plan if 464 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 4: the lockout goes super long after twenty twenty six, and 465 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 4: his contingency plan is to have a season, and so 466 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 4: he also points to his track record, which, to be fair, 467 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 4: there has not been that megalong work stoppage lockout under 468 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 4: his tenure, and that includes his time as lead negotiator. 469 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 4: Obviously he got this job because of his experience as 470 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 4: a labor attorney. But it just underscored I think what 471 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 4: a lot of fans feel, what a lot of people 472 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 4: within the game feel that you know this is going 473 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 4: to be a really protracted battle between the union and owners, 474 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 4: that this push for a salary cap, like we'll see 475 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 4: how serious management is about trying to get that, which 476 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 4: has historically been a non starter from the union side. 477 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 4: Like that to me kind of dampened kind of the 478 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 4: the way you frame that story, Like to me, like 479 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 4: that's just kind of in the back of my head 480 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 4: just listen to all this like, Okay, well, it'd be great, 481 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 4: like if it happens, but no doubt. I mean it's 482 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 4: it'll look awesome on TV, I think, having I mean, 483 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 4: the neighborhood will be slammed, yeah, for something like that. 484 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 4: And it'll also be interesting too, kind of building off 485 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 4: what we talk about last magamute of like what the 486 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 4: Cubs are going to look like in twenty twenty seven, 487 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 4: because there's so many guys tied up through twenty twenty six, 488 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 4: that's more than enough runway to see if any of 489 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 4: these prospects really hit. And then obviously, you know, we'll 490 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 4: see where where Kyle Tucker is playing at that point, 491 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 4: probably not Chicago, but we don't we can save that 492 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 4: for another show. 493 00:27:54,560 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean there's too many You're there's a 494 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: lot of like stuff hanging over this both Like those 495 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: two things I think is will there be a season? 496 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: Will there be an All Star Game in twenty seven? 497 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: And will Kyle Tucker still be with the Cubs, Like, 498 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: will the Cubs still be this really good team? Uh, 499 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: you know, headed for the playoffs and all these things. 500 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 1: It'll be an interesting time for the Cubs. The twenty 501 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: seven talk, it just feels like we've we've been talking 502 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 1: about this for a while, and every single time you 503 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: bring it up around baseball people, it's not like you 504 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: get these positive vibes where it's like anyone saying like, 505 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: at at minimum there's going to be a lockout, right, 506 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: There's like everyone just assumes that the length is what's 507 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: what's up for debate, whether you miss game, whether you 508 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: lose games, whether I think everyone kind of assumes you're 509 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: you're you know, it's going into spring training and you're 510 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,479 Speaker 1: gonna have to rearrange how things are done like they 511 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 1: did in twenty twenty two. 512 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:57,479 Speaker 3: Correct. 513 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 4: Uh, that just kind of three yeah. 514 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. 515 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of almost like viewed as like, Okay, 516 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: that's a win, because that's just kind of the assumption 517 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: of where it is. I don't want to bring things 518 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: down too much. I'm excited for that. I hope it happens, 519 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: because you know, as much as my son loves baseball, 520 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: his favorite thing to do is like, during the season, 521 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: has watched the home run Derby. 522 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,239 Speaker 3: So I'd love to be able to take them to that. 523 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 3: We'll see if it happens. 524 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure Cubs fans would be thrilled for the opportunity 525 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: and to show off. Like you said, like Wrigley Bill 526 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: and Wrigley Field is different now. It may not be 527 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: the place where I go to get drinks and hang out. 528 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 3: I think I'm too old for that. It's a little much. 529 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: But it's a completely different place than nineteen ninety, the ballpark, 530 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: the surrounding area. It'll be cool to show it's different 531 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: than twenty sixteen, when the last time they really got 532 00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: a national audience to check out Wrigley Field regularly early 533 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: with the spotlight on it. 534 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 3: So, you know, I think it'll be fun. 535 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: Hopefully we don't have any we don't need to worry 536 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: about whether it happens or not. But we'll we'll see, 537 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens, all right, Patrick, thanks so much 538 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: for listening to everyone. 539 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 3: This is Northside Territory. 540 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: Make sure to rate, review, subscribe, subscribe to the YouTube channel, 541 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: and subscribe to The Athletic where Patrick and I are. 542 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 3: On top of all things Cubs. We'll be back with 543 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 3: another episode soon. Thanks