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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: all of you hanging out with us. Trump was just asked,

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Speaker 1: so let me kind of set the table here. We

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Speaker 1: just talked with Senator Ted Cruz. Appreciate the time he

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Speaker 1: spent with us talking about Iran. We've been talking about Minneapolis.

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Speaker 1: We're soon going to talk about the Supreme Court case

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Speaker 1: today dealing with basic question such as head men be

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Speaker 1: able to compete against women in women's sports or should

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Speaker 1: they be kept out. We will update you on that.

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Speaker 1: We are actually scheduled to be joined by Jennifer Say,

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Speaker 1: who has been a huge part of this battle producer Ali.

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Speaker 1: She's going to join us at two thirty. I meant

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Speaker 1: we will discuss that case in the third hour. But

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Speaker 1: President Trump right now is in Detroit area at a

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Speaker 1: Ford Dealership Ford factory. Sorry, and he was just asked

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Speaker 1: if there are any there, evacuate from Iran. You just

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Speaker 1: heard what Ted Cruz said. I think that it is

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Speaker 1: quite clear I really thought it was interesting that Senator

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Speaker 1: ted Cruz told us that he thought potentially, certainly within

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Speaker 1: the next ninety days, and then he said maybe within

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Speaker 1: the next few hours, the Ayatola could fall in Iran.

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Speaker 1: And he said that on the heels of a trip

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Speaker 1: So that is all out there. It is certainly worthy

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Speaker 1: where much as Ronald Reagan I know, it happened in

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine. It was after Reagan left office. But

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Speaker 1: the Berlin Wall coming down. If you look at Venezuela,

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Speaker 1: if you look at what is going on right now

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Speaker 1: Ukraine War. America's adversaries are at their weakest point that

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Speaker 1: we have seen in some time, and it is worth

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Speaker 1: paying attention to because we could have a modern day

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Speaker 1: being defeated.

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Speaker 2: Now, with that in mind.

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Speaker 1: We also Buck are dealing with a Supreme Court case,

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Speaker 1: and we kind of touched on this early in the show.

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Speaker 1: The Supreme Court heard a case today about whether there

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Speaker 1: I can't believe that we have reached a point where

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Speaker 1: this is an actual Supreme Court case, but the states

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Speaker 1: along with many other states, have put in place policies

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Speaker 1: in women's sports. And this is a very foundational element

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Speaker 1: And it seemed based on the questioning Buck, you got

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Speaker 1: I didn't hear every question and hear every aspect of this,

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Speaker 1: but it feels like to me, the six Conservatives, the

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Speaker 2: Oh. Absolutely, they're doing everything they can, pulling all of

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Speaker 2: the mental gymnastics possible, whether we're talking about specific most

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Speaker 2: They're doing everything they can to keep gender communism alive

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Speaker 2: segregated by gender, and gender is real, and sex and

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Speaker 2: It's not sex, it's gender. One of the main hallmarks

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Speaker 2: clay of this entire gender communism movement is to constantly

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Speaker 2: write about this clay. This is an entire chapter in

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Speaker 2: my book coming out February seventeenth, Manufacturing Delusion. I talk

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Speaker 2: the most obvious things over and over and over again.

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Speaker 2: You know, you know, were you the guy who assassinated

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Speaker 2: I mean they do intentionally because it effectively scrambles your

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Speaker 2: And there's some line, actually I think I quote it

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Speaker 2: my research where it's not. The big lie is not

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Speaker 2: the mountains that they've always known are there are actually gone.

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Speaker 2: And in this case, gender is a mountain that we

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Speaker 2: the basic script within your mind. Again chapter in the

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Speaker 2: book Manufacturing Delusion and Clay on this one, the Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court justices, you could see what they were trying to do,

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Speaker 2: That's a pretty good sign that gender may exist. Now, Buck,

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Speaker 2: Those are the facts for anyone tempted to disbelieve their

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Speaker 2: abolishing of women's athletics entirely. Okay, where did that? Where

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Speaker 2: are I'm reading from right now, Buck, I don't know

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Speaker 2: a loan. Shark, mobster okay moving the do date around

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Speaker 2: you're gonna force credit cards to try to give a

433
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Speaker 2: Litwer rit by, the way it's just. Gonna be it's like.

434
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,239
Speaker 2: Price controls they're gonna squeeze at one end and then

435
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 2: you're gonna get squeezing at the. Other end this is

436
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 2: what ends. Up happening the money has to come. FROM

437
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 2: somewhere i.

438
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: Would also point out banks will screw you at every

439
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: opportunity that they. Can too so a lot of people,

440
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: talk about, you know unfair fees that are hitting them on.

441
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: Credit cards banks hit you on unfair fees all, the.

442
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,719
Speaker 1: Time too my number one advice to the extent that

443
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: you can you can do it IS and i think

444
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: most a lot of financial advisors out there would, say

445
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: this you are way less likely to spend money if you,

446
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: use cash because in, your brain this is just the

447
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 1: way we're all. Wired cash you feel it in a

448
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 1: way that you do not when it comes to paying

449
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: with a. Credit card and the reason why the credit

450
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: card industry works is because people live beyond their means and.

451
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 2: They take advantage.

452
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: Of you you ever fly on, an airplane you ever

453
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: notice how often they walk around trying to get you

454
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: to sign up for credit cards on. An airplane it's

455
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: because the airlines now make as much money just about

456
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 1: off their credit cards as they do actually off of the.

457
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: Airline itself it's one of the craziest things. Out there

458
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,719
Speaker 1: if you're ever on a, college campus the reason why

459
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: they're trying to give you away a sweatshirt to get

460
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: you to sign up is because they know what the

461
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 1: long term value of this is going to create, for

462
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: them because the numbers are the numbers a little bit like.

463
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: A casino once they get you, signed up they know

464
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: that you're going to be worth a decent amount to them.

465
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: Going FORWARD now i, SAID it i don't Know that

466
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: trump has the ability to.

467
00:25:58,880 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 2: Do.

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00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: It WELL what i will is this in Conjunction with

469
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: trump last week talking about trying to limit the number

470
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: of homes that people, could buy meaning big companies buying

471
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: up all. The homes This is trump PIVOTING because i

472
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: think his team has recognized that the twenty twenty sixth

473
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: election is going to be decided, on affordability and people

474
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: are angry over how much prices went Up During, joe

475
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: biden and so sometimes you put out policies that are

476
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: populist in nature that don't necessarily have a chance, of

477
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 1: happening just to show people that you're listening to them

478
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: and hearing.

479
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 2: Their complaints that's. Exactly right that's what this Is the.

480
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 2: Trump gambit This is trump saying something that's going to

481
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: do a few things without getting into the details, right

482
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: now because he's moving the focus and changing the. Pressure

483
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 2: here so you Point out clay people feel like credit,

484
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: card companies and THAT'S why i SAID what i. Said

485
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 2: BEFORE but i will tell you. Guys something this is actually,

486
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 2: a personal. Personal anecdote this is TRUE when i was IN,

487
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 2: the CIA and I think i made thirty eight thousand

488
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: dollars my first year IN, the cia something. Like that

489
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: AND so i had no money and MY parent i

490
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: had no money set aside for me or anything. Like,

491
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: that OKAY so i just started my job AT. THE

492
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: cia i MOVED because i couldn't afford the rent increase

493
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 2: in the, initial apartment which was the cheapest studio apartment

494
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 2: in this massive building LIVING. IN dc, i Moved and

495
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: Capital ONE clay i had a, zero BALANCE because i

496
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 2: always had a. Zero Balance capital one sent via snail

497
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: mail to my old address a five dollars account. CLOSING

498
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 2: charge i had never, you know was this in the

499
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 2: fine print of my? Contract? Somewhere. Yeah WHATEVER but i

500
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 2: shut down the credit CARD when i MOVED because i,

501
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: WAS like i never used. This card it was an

502
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 2: emergency card that my parents set up for ME when

503
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: i was in COLLEGE that i actually never used. One

504
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: time it, was like use this if, you know you break,

505
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: your leg you're in.

506
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: The er he, was like that's a great the glass.

507
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: Emergency card you, Need money and, YOU know.

508
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,160
Speaker 2: I realized i had a five hundred, dollars limit which

509
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 2: isn't a hell of an emergency let's. Be HONEST so

510
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 2: i shut. It down they sent a five dollars charge

511
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 2: to shut. IT down I found i heard nothing. ABOUT

512
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 2: this i got a call eighteen months later from a

513
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,959
Speaker 2: collection AGENCY saying i owed them like three hundred dollars

514
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: now and my credit was wrecked over. Five dollars that

515
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 2: the notification they sent was. Completely unsatisfactory they could have.

516
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: Emailed me they never. EMAILED me i mean they were

517
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 2: A whole credit card companies act like, scumbag sometimes is.

518
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 2: My point that was A total that was a total.

519
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 2: Scumbag move this is twenty, years ago and they will

520
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 2: screw you on your, credit.

521
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: Rating which is ultimately probably the number one most valuable

522
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: financial asset that most of. Us have and a lot

523
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: of times you have like parking ticket, on there or

524
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: you've got a cancelation fee on there that they're tanking.

525
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: You with this was the only missed payment of any

526
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: kind LIKE this i have ever had of. Any kind i've,

527
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 2: Always look i'm gonna be honest. With you he's a.

528
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: COMPETITOR already i Love The dave ramsey approach. On this

529
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 2: i'm very, you know pay cash when, you can you're

530
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 2: not caring. A balance the whole point is the discipline

531
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: it's supposed to. Be hard it's supposed to be frustrating

532
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: that you can't buy the jet ski. Right, now okay,

533
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: you save you figure, it out you get there the.

534
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: Right way you don't go buy that, you Know that

535
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 2: firebird OR that i, don't know, You Know ford mustang

536
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 2: that goes room broom room super loud and pay like

537
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: a TWENTY percent apr on the money like That's in.

538
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: You can't these are. Bad, decisions okay they're. Bad decisions

539
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: so at some point or at, some level you want

540
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: people to be disincentivized from doing some of. THESE things

541
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 2: A high apr. Does That but i'm JUST saying i also,

542
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: understand this why is it? Non dischargeable but they would

543
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 2: say if it wasn't, non dischargeable that would have to

544
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: then factor into the. Risk, profile well and you'd have

545
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: the same problem of not having the. Higher rates this

546
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: is a. Complicated issue but here On trump clay due to,

547
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: your POINT because i think. It's Brilliant, WH sorry i

548
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 2: just got fired UP because i still. REMEMBER opening i

549
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: still remember that call from the collection AGENCY and i was,

550
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: just like, you scumbags, YOU know.

551
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: I had an experience that where it is, completely unfair

552
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: and they're going to take advantage. Of You and, i'm

553
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: Like and, i'm like my credits are rum the credit

554
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: card company is getting like a sixty x return on

555
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: five dollars, for nothing for literally nothing for shutting down.

556
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: An account as, Absurd anyway, AND yeah I think i

557
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't have qualified For A fannie may loan based on

558
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: this one thing at. That time that's how bad, it

559
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: was because it had gone on for like, a year

560
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: and once it, goes on once it goes beyond, ninety days.

561
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: You're screwed my Point is trump, understands this and he

562
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: knows that he's putting heat on the credit, card companies

563
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: and he knows whether he has the right or rather

564
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: the legal ability, Or, not clay he has the political

565
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: ability right now and maybe get some concessions out, of

566
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: them maybe get them to not do some of the

567
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: grosser stuff, they do maybe move them in the. Right

568
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: direction so That's the trump GAMBIT as i. SEE it

569
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: i would also, point out we're basically making a policy

570
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: decision on what we're allowing the credit card companies to

571
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: set their. Rates at, we're, saying like you couldn't have

572
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: a seventy five percent interest rates on a, credit, card

573
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: right we wouldn't, allow it so to some extent it

574
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: is just a policy Choice because i'm, sure look credit

575
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: card companies would take a seventy five percent interest rate

576
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: if they could RIGHT. Yearly apr they would take it

577
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: as high as they. Possibly can this is to where, People,

578
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: say okay we're going to, balance This and trump, is

579
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: saying to, his credit this is a one, year thing

580
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: which also looks even. More political right to, Be, fair

581
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: oh the one year happens to correspond with, the midterm

582
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: when you'll be on the ballot basically for the last

583
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Speaker 1: i think it's acknowledging affordability. Related issues i'm not sure

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Speaker 2: let's let's get into some of the credit. Card thing

615
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: it's one of these. To play it's a little bit

616
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 2: like the minimum. Wage conversation it sounds at first like it's,

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Speaker 2: uh oh it's like technical. And, financial no people really feel.

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00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 2: This one people the same way people really feel gas

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Speaker 2: prizes when. They're high when you get people fire off

620
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 2: about credit, card companies, especially BECAUSE like, I said i'm familiar,

621
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: with this that happened, to ME and i know credit

622
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: card companies have had to be slapped down because they're doing.

623
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: Scumbag stuff that's just the truth. They have you can

624
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: go back and look. At this they've had to pay

625
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: different settlements, and things so they're not like the. Good

626
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 2: guys but we also kind of, need, Them right so

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00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 2: that's another part OF this. Bb Podcast listener Hank in

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Speaker 2: ANNAPOLIS play, Bb here hank Here.

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Speaker 5: In annapolis just responding to the credit. Card issue it,

630
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 5: sounds great ten percent interest rate for, one year but,

631
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 5: then people a lot of people will rack up huge

632
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 5: balances and then the credit cards go back up to

633
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 5: twenty and twenty. One percent then WHAT so i think

634
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 5: you better be careful what you wish for on.

635
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 2: This one. Not good that's actually a really.

636
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: Good point because many people have multi year credit, card

637
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: balances so it comes down to, ten percent maybe you

638
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 1: take on more because, they're like it's only.

639
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: Ten percent and then that was part of the that

640
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: was part of the mortgage meltdown with with mortgages where

641
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: people had a resetting VERY bl apr variable interest, rate

642
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: mortgage which is, so like at first your mortgage rateed

643
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: was like, two percent and then a few years in

644
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 2: it went. To, ten well, guess what it's really easy

645
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 2: to pay the, two percent but the ten starts, to bite?

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Speaker 2: Doesn't It and memphis wants to talk. About, this yep go, For, it.

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Speaker 4: HI guys i sat down with my ten year old

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Speaker 4: grandson last summer because he was asking for something and, he,

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Speaker 4: goes well you can just put it on your. Credit

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Speaker 4: CARD and, i. SAID okay, i said is this something you,

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Speaker 4: really want a want need or is this something you?

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Speaker 2: Just?

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Speaker 4: WANT well I would i don't, Want It and, i'm,

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Speaker 4: like okay let's let's go through. This EXERCISE and, I,

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Speaker 4: said hey you've got a three hundred dollars credit card

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Speaker 4: and you buy something for three hundred dollars and your

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Speaker 4: payment comes in and you only owe thirty five dollars

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Speaker 4: or your. MINIMUM payment, i, said now how much do

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Speaker 4: you owe to the credit? Card company and, he, said well,

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Speaker 4: that's easy two hundred and sixty. FIVE dollars i, said

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Speaker 4: no because we're going to add interest now on your

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Speaker 4: two hundred and sixty, five dollars so now you owe

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Speaker 4: us three hundred and. Ten dollars well that's, not Fair and,

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Speaker 4: i'm like you're, Getting, it, betty yep.

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Speaker 1: Well done i'm glad that bass, sat down because this

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Speaker 1: is one of The things BUCK that i think should

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Speaker 1: be standard in. Every school financial literacy based wiring ants should.

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Speaker 2: Be required they don't teach it because they want you

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Speaker 2: to be. Debt slaves this. Is true it's. Not conspiracy.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry everyone should learn about, credit cards. Compound interest

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Speaker 2: everyone should learn, about mortgageants and you. Should mortgages you

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Speaker 2: should learn about this in like the. Ninth grade, and

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Speaker 2: yeah maybe it's complicated for, some people but they should

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Speaker 2: at least learn what they can. From it everybody should

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Speaker 2: learn about this stuff because otherwise you're paying for that

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Speaker 2: jet ski for the next. Fifty years