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Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine, Hey besties.

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Speaker 2: Today on the bright Side, We've got a pair of

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Speaker 2: best selling authors and hosts, the trail blazing and downright

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Speaker 2: hilarious rough and sisters Amber Ruffin and Lacey Lamar. It's Thursday,

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Speaker 2: June twenty seventh.

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Speaker 3: I'm Simone Boyce, I'm Danielle Robe and this is the

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Speaker 3: bright Side from Hello Sunshine.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Danielle, we have some really exciting news to share

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Speaker 2: with our bright Side besties.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we are so excited to announce the return of

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Speaker 3: shine Away, connected by AT and T.

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Speaker 2: Listen y'all if you don't know, shine Away is an

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Speaker 2: empowering women to reclaim their joy, connect with their passions,

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Speaker 2: and just transform their lives. And this year, I hear

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Speaker 2: it's going to be bigger and better than ever.

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Speaker 3: Transformative is the word. I felt so connected when I

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Speaker 3: was there last year. It was one of my favorite

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Speaker 3: days of the year, and it just feels really motivating.

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Speaker 3: You walk away having met these ambitious, curious, thoughtful.

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Speaker 1: Just like minded women. It was so fun.

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Speaker 2: So here are the details, y'all. This year's event will

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Speaker 2: at NYA Studios and Reese Witherspoon. Our Boss Lady is

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Speaker 1: We cannot wait.

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Speaker 3: Tickets are available now at Hello, Dash Sunshine dot com

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Speaker 3: slash shine away. All Right, today feels like a day

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Speaker 3: that's going to be full of laughter and sisterly love.

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Speaker 2: Oh you just wait, Danielle. Our guests are New York

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Speaker 2: Times bestselling authors and sisters Amber Ruffin and Lacey Lamar.

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Speaker 2: They're critically acclaimed books entitled You'll Never Believe What Happened

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Speaker 2: To Lacey, Crazy Stories about Racism and the World Record

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Speaker 2: Book of Racist Stories. They make readers cry, laugh and

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Speaker 2: then cry laughing.

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Speaker 3: That's the best type of laughter when it's uncontrollable.

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Speaker 1: Mm hm. That's my favorite too. And here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they grew up together, so they're sisters, and

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Speaker 2: they decided to compile all the stories that they collected

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Speaker 2: from their childhood into adolescence, into adulthood and put them

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Speaker 2: into these books. So they're sharing the outrageous things that

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Speaker 2: they've experienced growing up in Nebraska as smart black women,

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Speaker 2: but they're adding so much humor and heart to all

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Speaker 2: of it. They're so brilliant, both individually and as a duo.

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Speaker 3: You know, I remember in twenty fourteen when Amber was

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Speaker 3: hired by Late Night with Seth Myers, making her the

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Speaker 3: first black woman ever to be a writer on a

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Speaker 3: late night network show. It's wild because twenty fourteen was

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Speaker 3: not that long ago, but I do think it's really

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Speaker 3: cool that she made history. And you know, I missed

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Speaker 3: this conversation because I was out with food poisoning. I

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Speaker 3: had one too many burritos at the airport. I think

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Speaker 3: it was a little risky.

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Speaker 1: Girl. Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. It was hard.

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Speaker 1: We've got to watch out for those airport burritos. It

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Speaker 1: was really terrible.

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Speaker 3: But I've followed Amber's career for the last few years,

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Speaker 3: and I was really a fan of her late night

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Speaker 3: show on Peacock. She was a writer on it, and

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Speaker 3: of course the host of The Amber Ruffin Show. And

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Speaker 3: she also just wrote on the revised book for the

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Speaker 3: new Broadway adaptation of The Whiz. And what I'm really

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Speaker 3: excited about today is that we get to know her

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Speaker 3: and her sister together because they were born in Omaha,

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Speaker 3: Nebraska and now they both live in New York. So

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Speaker 3: Lacey is the older sister, and I'm wondering if she

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, She's totally giving responsible older sister energy.

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Speaker 3: Well, I love that because I love getting to know

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Speaker 3: talented siblings. What I didn't know is that Amber grew

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Speaker 3: up doing theater, and her improv and her comedy talents

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Speaker 3: took her to Chicago, Amsterdam, and La all places where

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Speaker 3: she honed her craft. And now Lacy and Amber are

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Speaker 3: making waves together with their comedy pop culture podcasts, The

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Speaker 3: I miss this one, simone, but I am excited to

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Speaker 3: hear your interview with them.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we missed you so much, Danielle. It's so cool

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Speaker 2: to see all these powerful sister duos teaming up. You know,

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Speaker 2: so much talent girl power for real. Yes, Well, I'm

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Speaker 2: so pumped to share this conversation with you and all

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Speaker 2: of our bright Side besties. Prepare yourself because there will

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Speaker 2: be laughs. And now my conversation with Amber Ruffin and

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Speaker 2: Lacey Lamar. Amber and Lacey, welcome to the bright Side.

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Speaker 2: We're so happy to have you.

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Speaker 1: Yay, thank you. We're happy to be here.

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Speaker 2: So, Amber, I am currently in New York right now

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Speaker 2: and I just drove by the Marquis Theater where The

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Speaker 2: Whiz is back on Broadway, and you actually wrote for

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Speaker 2: this latest adaptation. Congratulations. What does it mean to you

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Speaker 2: to lend your voice to such an iconic.

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Speaker 4: Growing up, I absolutely adored The Wiz, and I feel

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Speaker 4: like the Wiz did for me what it did for

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Speaker 4: to become a performer and to have your story told

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Speaker 4: wanted to make sure to do that for the next generation.

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Speaker 4: So hopefully I have And when kids go and see it,

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Speaker 4: you know, when adults go and see it, they feel

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Speaker 1: What's your earliest memory of The Whiz.

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Speaker 4: My earliest memory of The Whiz is like it has

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Speaker 4: always existed, So I just feel like it is everywhere

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Speaker 4: all the time, like the news. You know, like you

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Speaker 1: It just you always were rare that it existed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's like the whiz, It's just always always around.

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Speaker 1: How about for you, Lacey?

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Speaker 4: We used to reenact scenes from it and Amber probably

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Speaker 4: doesn't remember, but remember the scary scene from the movie

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Speaker 4: where it was like little dude and we still like

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Speaker 4: be in the basement and like chase each other, doing

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Speaker 2: So was this kind of what it meant to be

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Speaker 2: a rough in sister? Were you both super imaginative growing up?

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Speaker 4: Reenactments all the time, singing, making up songs. We sang

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Speaker 4: everything like Mom, what's for dinner? And then she'd singing back. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: we were over the time.

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Speaker 2: Did you did you drive your parents crazy? I mean,

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Speaker 1: They were used to it. My parents will even join

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Speaker 2: Well, you channeled all of that imaginative little girl energy

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Speaker 2: into this incredible career now as adults and sisters. I

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Speaker 2: mean you have written two best selling books together, you

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Speaker 2: have a podcast, your two books, You'll Never Believe What

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Speaker 2: Happened to Lacey and the world record Book of Racist Stories.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you tackle so many outrageous experiences with heart

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Speaker 2: and humor. Take me into that shift when you went

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Speaker 2: from sisters to creative partners.

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Speaker 4: The shift was pretty painful, and thank you for asking

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Speaker 4: Lacey's a monster to work with the truth, it was like,

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Speaker 4: you can't eat yet, we need more chapters.

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Speaker 1: Put that hamburger down. That's not true. We only always

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Speaker 1: ate and don't forget we had a couple of drinks.

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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, it was literally nothing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like, yeah, we just realized

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Speaker 1: every time we hang.

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Speaker 5: Out the people would pay us for this, and then

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Speaker 5: it was just figuring out what to get people to

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Speaker 5: pay as saying out because we're going to be talking

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Speaker 5: about Lacey's racist stories.

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Speaker 4: We're going to be talking about her and it's going

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Speaker 4: to be funny, so we might as well write it down.

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Speaker 2: Lacey, we were wondering if you could tell us about

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Speaker 2: the time that you got mistaken for whoop be Goldberg.

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Speaker 4: Oh yes, okay, okay, So I was on vacation in

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Speaker 4: Colorado and I was up in the mountains and we

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Speaker 4: were stopping by these little trinket shops.

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Speaker 1: They got a million different little trinket shops.

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Speaker 4: And I walk into this trinket shop and the lady

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Speaker 4: yells whoop bee, and I yelled back whoop bee because

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Speaker 4: I'm just like, hey, I just thought that's how she.

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Speaker 4: And she comes up to me, and then the another

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Speaker 1: Coming into this store.

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Speaker 4: And I'm like you're welcome, and they're like you can,

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Speaker 4: oh okay, grab t shirts, trinkets, necklaces and stuff.

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Speaker 1: And I was like thank you.

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Speaker 4: And then after a while when they were talking to me,

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Speaker 4: they're like, oh my god, we love you on this,

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Speaker 4: this this, And I was like, they think I'm would

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Speaker 2: When we talk about reparations? This is what this is

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Speaker 2: what we're talking about. There was no way I was

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Speaker 2: them feel sad they got to meet with Goldbert. This

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Speaker 1: I'm ruining that day. Do you still have the shirts?

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Speaker 1: My mom does, and she hated them. They weren't the best.

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Speaker 2: Listen, this was hey, the price was right, The price

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Speaker 2: take a quick break, but we'll be right back with

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Speaker 2: Amber and Lacey. Stick with us, yell, and we're back

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Speaker 2: with Amber and Lacey. What I love about your work

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Speaker 2: together is that it's so subversive because I think a

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Speaker 2: they look at racist experiences that we all have and

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Speaker 2: I do carry it with that as well. But you

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Speaker 2: are normalizing humor in all this. You're normalizing like it's

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Speaker 2: okay to find a way to laugh at these horrible

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Speaker 2: things that happened to us. Why was it important for

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Speaker 4: I think that that's the way our family is. If

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Speaker 1: Yeah. We like to laugh all the time.

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Speaker 4: And in telling stories, even though they're really painful, there's always.

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Speaker 1: A little giggle at the end. We're like yeah, but

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Speaker 1: then this happened.

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Speaker 4: But also like little racist things can't be painful forever,

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Speaker 4: Like you really got if you want to make a sting. Ah,

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Speaker 4: I mean, at this point, we've really got to be

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Speaker 4: doing some crazy stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But also in this book, the joke is the racist.

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Speaker 4: It's how stupid and ignorant and ridiculous they are. And

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Speaker 4: it's people think like we're making fun of racism, like oh,

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Speaker 4: slaves are funny. That's not what we're doing. We're saying

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Speaker 4: I do. One of the things that I really loved

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Speaker 1: You must have had parents who reinforced that. Definitely.

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Speaker 4: My mom's like, you're the best, You're the cutest, your

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Speaker 4: She did say, you're the smartest in your class, and

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Speaker 2: Of us Amber growing up, What kind of possibilities did

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Speaker 4: None? Growing up as a zero possibilities and comedy none

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Speaker 2: I was stunned when I came across this amber fact

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Speaker 4: Society has to move to a point where they can accept,

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Speaker 2: Amber Ruffin and Lacey Lamar. Lacy, you are in your

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Speaker 1: Amber and I are working on some projects together. We are.

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Speaker 1: Can I talk about the dating? Nope?

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Speaker 1: You can talk about that secret.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, sorry, we're working on a project about Okay,

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Speaker 4: Lacey and how horrible it is to date her.

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Speaker 1: That was hard, guys, and that's racism. Want to know

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Speaker 4: I So on our podcast, The Amber and Lacey Lacy

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Speaker 4: It's not dates, it's not relationships. It is a one

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Speaker 1: Ton't finish it. Don't tell me anything else. I did

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Speaker 2: Spoiler alert, there's a grave and romance. I'm sorry. I

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Speaker 1: Wait look at it. Let me look at you. Wait,

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Speaker 2: It's been great having you guys on the show. We

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Speaker 2: So it's no secret this is a family affair. Clearly

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna put your sister knowledge to the test

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna ask you which sister is most likely

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Speaker 1: We want honesty. Okay, we got it. I got it.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna win.

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Speaker 2: So first up, when you were younger, who was most

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Speaker 4: Me? Amber Lacy does not get in trouble. She'll tattle

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Speaker 1: What are you doing over there? Right now? Look at it?

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Speaker 1: Look at me? Stop? I got in trouble.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this one is actually particularly salient based on our

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Speaker 4: Yes, I will find out who you are married to,

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Speaker 4: how many kids you have, because I'm dating. I gotta

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, totally normal.

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Speaker 2: Who is most likely to hog the ox cord during

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Speaker 4: Is it it's baby Face, baby Face, It's Tony Braxton,

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Speaker 1: I mean that sounds like a great road trip to me.

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Speaker 1: It's wonderful and a little hood, just a little little gangster.

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Speaker 2: A little ratchet in there, But like what kind of

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Speaker 2: like what brand of ratchet are we talking?

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Speaker 1: Juvenile? Uvinile? Like PD Poblo, the five oh four boys,

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Speaker 1: hot boys. You gotta have a mix. You gotta do

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Speaker 1: a high low mix. Okay, who is most likely to

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Speaker 4: Me?

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Speaker 1: Lacey.

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Speaker 4: I'm still telling embers because from twenty years ago chosen.

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Speaker 1: I don't tell her all at once.

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Speaker 4: Lacy tells me something new every day, every day day,

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Speaker 4: every daw because now I'm old enough to know the secrets.

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Speaker 1: So now she's still.

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Speaker 4: Not old enough to know everything. You don't know everything,

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Speaker 4: but I'll let her know every couple of weeks I

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Speaker 4: give her. It's really good, guys, it's really good. That

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Speaker 4: should be another book, the Secrets. I can take a

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Speaker 4: secret to the grazy kids, put it in the lock bags.

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Speaker 2: As we wrap up, I want to ask you both,

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Speaker 2: after having worked together on all these projects, how have

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Speaker 2: you grown together as sisters?

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Speaker 4: I feel like you never get to work with people

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Speaker 4: you're related to, you know, and you don't know who

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Speaker 4: you gonna get. Well, that's not true, because I knew

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Speaker 4: who Lacey was gonna be I knew Laser was gonna

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Speaker 4: do all her work on time and be easier and easy.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know, it's nice.

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Speaker 4: And then the result is we have these lovely accomplishments

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Speaker 4: that feel great and they are you know, they feel

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Speaker 4: a lot like vacations we went on. But it's like we,

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Speaker 4: you know, did a book tour and like sold this

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Speaker 4: show and wrote another book and podcast and it feels

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Speaker 4: like this list of cool accomplishments and really quick, we're

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Speaker 4: all of our accomplishments hosted.

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Speaker 1: The accomplishment bathroom or all in the bathroom say more.

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Speaker 4: If you come over, can go to the bathroom and

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Speaker 4: you'll be surrounded by accomplishments of us staring at.

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Speaker 2: You, Hey, genius, and more homes across America should adopt this.

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Speaker 2: What is the accomplishment that's hanging in the bathroom that

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Speaker 2: you are most proud of?

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Speaker 4: The mine is the book, Amber, I don't know, it's

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Speaker 4: got all of them in there. They're all in there.

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Speaker 4: I'n say the Emmy nomination for the Amber Ruffin Trow.

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Speaker 1: Yay, yay, good answer. Hey Amber Lacey, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for bringing your rough and energy to the bright side.

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Speaker 5: Yay.

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Speaker 4: For a sum it's too much, but you seem to

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Speaker 4: roll with it and we appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I feel like I would do pretty well on

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Speaker 2: a rough and road trip like it sounds great, You

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Speaker 2: can do it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Amber Ruffin and Lacy Lamar are sisters, writers, podcast hosts,

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Speaker 2: and authors.

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Speaker 3: That's our show for today. Thanks so much for listening.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back tomorrow to pop off with People's Style

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Speaker 3: and Beauty director Andrea Labenthal. Listen and follow the bright

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Speaker 3: Side on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you

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Speaker 3: get your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: I'm Simone Boye.

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Speaker 2: You can find me at Simone Voice on Instagram and TikTok.

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Speaker 3: Danielle Robe on Instagram and TikTok.

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Speaker 1: That's r O b A. Y. See you tomorrow, folks.

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Speaker 1: Keep looking on the bright side.