Speaker 1: Hey, you're welcome to the short stuff. I'm Josh, there's Chuck,
Speaker 1: there's Still and of course this short stuff short stuff now,
Speaker 1: So Jos, I should have a question for you. I
Speaker 1: know that every time we go to Chicago, you're always like,
Speaker 1: this is the creepiest place I've ever been. It feels haunted.
Speaker 1: Forget New Orleans, right, forget other creepy places. This Chicago
Speaker 1: is the scariest place on earth. I do say that.
Speaker 1: And you know what, after listening to this story, you
Speaker 1: might be right. Yeah, yeah, um, it is a surprising town.
Speaker 1: Like that's kind of where the Dunes murders started, That's
Speaker 1: where the Thailand all murders were. I think I just
Speaker 1: realized this is the third one. Huh yeah, at the
Speaker 1: very least, at the very least. Um and in fact,
Speaker 1: part of this um this episode takes place in Edgewater Hospital, which, um,
Speaker 1: look up abandoned Edgewater Hospital. There's like fifty pictures of
Speaker 1: this one maybe abandoned hospital. Oh my gosh, and um,
Speaker 1: I think it was abandoned maybe in the nineties. Is
Speaker 1: like this this empty abandoned hospital in a high rise.
Speaker 1: But it's where Hillary Clinton was born and where John
Speaker 1: Wayne Gacy was born. Really. Yeah, but by thet I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't. I didn't go to the trouble
Speaker 1: of checking out their ages to see how far apart
Speaker 1: they were. But wouldn't that be weird? Has a right
Speaker 1: linked them together? Eventually? If not, they will. Now we
Speaker 1: just gave him a little a little piece of little shred. No,
Speaker 1: but we'll look into it. So. Um, at this Edgewater
Speaker 1: hospital there was a woman named Tarasee to Bassa who
Speaker 1: worked there, and she was forty seven. She was Filipino,
Speaker 1: and apparently she was a well to do Filipino aristocrat
Speaker 1: ex pat who lived in America and worked as a
Speaker 1: respiratory therapist nurse in at Edgewater Hospital. Uh. And she
Speaker 1: lived in Chicago, in Chicago proper, not in the suburbs.
Speaker 1: And one day she is discovered in her apartment under
Speaker 1: a smoldering pile of clothing, naked with a kitchen knife
Speaker 1: sticking out of her chest. She had been murdered. I
Speaker 1: think the fire department founder and they were really surprised
Speaker 1: with what they found. Yeah, it was a pretty routine
Speaker 1: call for them of an apartment fire on February two
Speaker 1: and under like you said, under the under a mattress,
Speaker 1: a clear murder because of that kitchen knife sticking out
Speaker 1: of her chest, and that would have been an accident. Sure,
Speaker 1: you stab yourself in the chest and then set your
Speaker 1: clothing on fire under a mattress, that, yeah, it would
Speaker 1: have been of an accident. Right, So this is unfortunately
Speaker 1: it just goes unsolved. There's like six months in These
Speaker 1: detectives who are working in the case, they try out
Speaker 1: every lead, they start doing some investigating, they find, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe there were people who wanted are dead. Nobody had
Speaker 1: the right motive or opportunity. There was no good suspect
Speaker 1: and they reached a total dead end within six months.
Speaker 1: That's right. So, Uh. Detective Joe Statuela of homicide came
Speaker 1: in one day about six months later, I saw a
Speaker 1: note on his desk that said called the Evanston Police
Speaker 1: Department about the Terra Seda boss A case. He called
Speaker 1: Evanston and they said, hey, you need to call Dr.
Speaker 1: Jose Chiwa in Skokie. And he said, couldn't they have
Speaker 1: just put that on the note Let save me a
Speaker 1: phone call, And they said, we wanted you to know
Speaker 1: it came from US so Skokie, Illinois. Uh, which always
Speaker 1: reminds me of usual suspects. Oh, definitely does it to
Speaker 1: you too, barbershop quartet, that's right, Sco Illinois. Um. They
Speaker 1: went to see Dr Joe Jose we call him Joe Chua,
Speaker 1: who was also a Filipino, as we'll see, and they
Speaker 1: interviewed him and he said, a weird thing has happened here.
Speaker 1: My wife, she's thirty eight years old. She has gone
Speaker 1: into trances three different times, saying in Tagalog that she
Speaker 1: is tarasee to bassa and she needs help solving her murder.
Speaker 1: And here's who did it, right, which is very very
Speaker 1: weird and and kind of something that you would probably ignore,
Speaker 1: especially if you got a call from somebody saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: my wife went into trance and said that she's a
Speaker 1: murder victim. But there were two things going on here. One,
Speaker 1: Statuta and his partner had reached the total dead end
Speaker 1: in this case, and really any lead was was worth
Speaker 1: pursuing at this point, right. And then two, not only
Speaker 1: had them the doctor's wife, um, what is it rema
Speaker 1: bossa no rembias remibius chewa uh doctor Jose to his wife,
Speaker 1: not only had she said that she was this murder
Speaker 1: victim she named the murderer, and she also said that
Speaker 1: the murderer had been in Terra Seda's apartment and had
Speaker 1: stolen things from it, and that some of that stolen
Speaker 1: goods were jewelry that he had given to his girlfriend.
Speaker 1: So the fact that like this voice from the grave
Speaker 1: was saying that she was a murder victim and also
Speaker 1: saying who did it and what they did with the jewelry,
Speaker 1: that was enough, apparently to convince the detectives to follow
Speaker 1: upon it. And not only that, before we take our
Speaker 1: little break, she gave names of people who could identify
Speaker 1: this jewelry and telephone numbers of those people, which is
Speaker 1: pretty nuts. Yeah, Ron, Samara kin Bossa, Richard past and
Speaker 1: Ray Kings and that's not even the murderer. So that's
Speaker 1: a pretty good setup. I think we'll take a break
Speaker 1: and we'll tell you what happened after this. As s
Speaker 1: k as all right, So she says in these trances
Speaker 1: antagalog that she is this murdered woman, Teresa Teresa to Bassa,
Speaker 1: h huh. This guy broke into my house who works
Speaker 1: at my hospital as a respiratory technician. He comes into
Speaker 1: ostensibly fix a television murders me steals my jewelry that
Speaker 1: was given to me uh in France as a gift
Speaker 1: from my father two my mom. He stole the stuff.
Speaker 1: Here's the people that can verify it. Here their phone numbers.
Speaker 1: They decide to investigate, and it checks out. It checks out.
Speaker 1: That's the crazy thing. The detectives start looking into this
Speaker 1: and they're like, there is this man named Alan Showery
Speaker 1: and he did work with Tarasee to Bassa, so let's
Speaker 1: go visit him. And they went to because she named him.
Speaker 1: We've come out across right right. She said Alan Showery
Speaker 1: killed me. That this woman in the trance said this
Speaker 1: man Alan Showery was my murderer. So the detective and
Speaker 1: she gave enough information. The detectives followed up on it.
Speaker 1: They went to visit Allan Showery and they um, they said, hey,
Speaker 1: will you come down to the station with us, and
Speaker 1: he went with them voluntarily, which is very important, as
Speaker 1: we'll see in a minute. And they started interviewing him
Speaker 1: about Tarasee to Bassa's murder. Apparently they read him as rights.
Speaker 1: They did everything by the book. Uh, they didn't arrest
Speaker 1: him or anything like that. But he started answering questions
Speaker 1: down at the station, and the more questions he answered,
Speaker 1: the more they started to suspect that he was lying
Speaker 1: because they were actually catching him in lies and contradictions
Speaker 1: and things like that. And eventually he admitted to having
Speaker 1: gone to her apartment to help her fix the TV,
Speaker 1: but that she had called and canceled before he got there,
Speaker 1: so he went home instead. Well, the second thing they
Speaker 1: did was they went to his apartment and talked to
Speaker 1: his girlfriend and said, hey, has your boyfriend given you
Speaker 1: any jewelry recently? She said, well, yeah, he gave me
Speaker 1: this pendant in this ring is a late Christmas present,
Speaker 1: and um, I love them, don't they just look divine?
Speaker 1: The late Christmas present? And the detectives say, well, yes,
Speaker 1: that does look very nice, but can we see these
Speaker 1: things or take pictures of them? And if they took
Speaker 1: him from her, um, and they had Taraceta boss's relatives
Speaker 1: that had been named apparently by raymie Chewa to come
Speaker 1: down and look at these, um this jewelry and say
Speaker 1: yeah or nay whether it was taracetas and they said yea,
Speaker 1: this is remarkable. So this is all plowing ahead. Uh.
Speaker 1: He is arrested and charged. There is a trial hearing here.
Speaker 1: Hold on, he confessed, so he confessed, So they have
Speaker 1: a trial hearing on emotion from the assistant public defender,
Speaker 1: William Swanno, and he says, you know what, there's no
Speaker 1: probable calls here. They got a call about a trance
Speaker 1: that I think this woman faked, and that arrest was
Speaker 1: illegal to begin with because they liked probable calls. And
Speaker 1: never to my knowledge quote, never to my knowledge has
Speaker 1: a man been arrested because of a supernatural vision. Police
Speaker 1: have never been informed of a criminals name by a
Speaker 1: voice from the grave. And the judge went, except until now,
Speaker 1: because that's exactly what happened, dude. Yeah, the judge upheld
Speaker 1: it in this hearing to throw out the entire arrest
Speaker 1: because again, Chuck like, we're regardless of whether this trance
Speaker 1: was taraset to Bassa possessing Ramy Chewa, regardless of what
Speaker 1: you think of that. In the Annals of American Justice,
Speaker 1: there is a case where a man was arrested because
Speaker 1: of strictly because of a tip that detectives received from
Speaker 1: a woman claiming to have been possessed by the murder victim.
Speaker 1: That happened, Yeah, and the judge said, I see no
Speaker 1: reason to restrict the investigatory power of the police, whether
Speaker 1: they believe the voices are not. They had to check
Speaker 1: it out. And that was sort of the party line,
Speaker 1: which is like, hey man, it doesn't matter if a
Speaker 1: dog came out and pete out a name on the street,
Speaker 1: Like they went to this guy's house and he did
Speaker 1: it right, so like who cares? That was basically the
Speaker 1: whole the whole thing, Like they because the police followed
Speaker 1: proper procedure, because they advised him of his rights, because
Speaker 1: Alan Showery went with them voluntarily and answered their questions voluntarily,
Speaker 1: and the fact that he confessed, like all of this,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter as far as the law is concerned
Speaker 1: whether Taraseea Bassa possessed Rami Chu or not. They they
Speaker 1: followed procedure, and they followed up on this tip. And
Speaker 1: so there's a trial. And during the trial, um Alan Showery,
Speaker 1: it looked like he might get off. There was a
Speaker 1: mistrial in fact, but then he surprised everybody. While he
Speaker 1: was awaiting a new trial, he played guilty and didn't
Speaker 1: get a second trial and instead was given something like
Speaker 1: fourteen years for the murder and then four years each
Speaker 1: for robbery and arson. But he's still he only served
Speaker 1: I think something like five which in and of itself
Speaker 1: it is crazy. But he was caught strictly because of
Speaker 1: that call from from Raimi Chiwa's husband, Dr Jose Chiwa.
Speaker 1: And so now you have to go back and say
Speaker 1: how much of this is true? And apparently everything we've
Speaker 1: said is true and verified that there were reports done
Speaker 1: on it. That thing about that hearing that was from
Speaker 1: a Washington Post article we found from I believe this
Speaker 1: is all true. That no one came out later and said,
Speaker 1: you know, my wife's actually an amateur investigator, and she
Speaker 1: thought it'd be kind of fun to solve this case
Speaker 1: and then present it and wrap it in the enticing
Speaker 1: book jacket of a trance right. What what the I think?
Speaker 1: We found some guy in a story and from Chicago
Speaker 1: wrote a post about it, and he kind of captured
Speaker 1: what I what I suspect um. One thing that gets
Speaker 1: left out very frequently is that Raimi Chiwa was a
Speaker 1: co worker, uh kind of friend yeah, of Tara Sea
Speaker 1: bassa Um went to a party at her apartment, so
Speaker 1: knew where she lived and then also knew Alan Showery
Speaker 1: was actually scared of Alan Showery. So this historian posits
Speaker 1: that she was actually so afraid of coming forward, but
Speaker 1: so overcome by the guilt of keeping this, this this
Speaker 1: thought to herself. It just came out like that, And
Speaker 1: that makes sense. It would it would be more culturally
Speaker 1: acceptable to do that than to, you know, just keep
Speaker 1: it to herself. That that's where the trance came from.
Speaker 1: That she somehow acquired all this knowledge. If that's the case,
Speaker 1: that's still pretty interesting too. Yeah, she could have been
Speaker 1: sleep walking and talking, sure, which appears like a trance.
Speaker 1: But either way, it's all pretty remarkable. It is pretty remarkable.
Speaker 1: One of the most remarkable cases in American law enforcement
Speaker 1: and justice. And that's why we dedicated twelve minutes to it,
Speaker 1: more than that man thirteen and a half baby. Uh,
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