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Speaker 2: We got one hell of a playoff game going on

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Speaker 2: right now between the Nuggets and the Clippers. Clippers have

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Speaker 2: Nuggets have a ninety three to ninety two lead, So

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Speaker 2: we are going to be all over this game. We

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Speaker 2: got games coming up. Obviously, we got the Pistons taking

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Speaker 2: on the Knicks, and then later on the Timberwolves and

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Speaker 2: the Lakers. Already Indiana did some serious damage on the

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Speaker 2: Milwaukee Bucks. So the NBA playoffs are definitely underway. And

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Speaker 2: of course we've all also got the NFL Draft that's

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Speaker 2: going to be coming up here on Thursday. Adam Kaplan

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Speaker 2: is going to be joining us our NFL insider and

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Speaker 2: he'll give us the latest not only on how the

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Speaker 2: top of the draft looks right now, but also the

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Speaker 2: latest on the Aaron Rodgers situation. Will he be a

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steeler or is he not going to be a

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Speaker 2: we'll have all the NFL news for you. We're hooking

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Speaker 2: up with Ryan right now. And the great thing about

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Speaker 2: having Ryan Hollins on is not only the fact that

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Speaker 2: he is my fellow bruin, is the fact that he

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Speaker 2: has also been the color analyst for the Houston Rockets

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Speaker 2: for the last four seasons. So he'll give us a

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Speaker 2: little previews the Rockets will open up their series against

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Speaker 2: inside on everything about the NBA with these exciting playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I was actually at into a dome on Tuesday to

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Speaker 2: check out Clippers pract this and they were a very

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Speaker 2: confident bunch going in. So right now ninety five ninety

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Speaker 2: Ryan is joining us, my fellow bruin. Ryant's great to

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Speaker 2: hook up with you again. How are you, man?

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Speaker 3: What's going on? Brother?

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Speaker 2: How you been I've been great. I mean, you've been

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Speaker 2: busy obviously the last four seasons. Now the analysts for

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Speaker 2: Houston Rockets Basketball, and we got plenty of talk about

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Speaker 2: with the Rockets and their series coming up with the Warriors.

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Speaker 2: But let's talk about this game that's going on right

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Speaker 2: now again. Nuggets leading the Clippers ninety five ninety four.

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Speaker 2: We got two twenty two to go in this game.

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Speaker 2: As I mentioned, I was out with the Clippers, your

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Speaker 2: former team, one of your former teams on Tuesday out

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Speaker 2: of practice. Talk to Zubots, talk to Hardin obviously talked

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Speaker 2: to ty Lou. This is a different Clippers team this year. Ryan,

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Speaker 2: They're healthy. You know, you feel like if they can

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Speaker 2: keep Kawhi on the court, this team could go deep.

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Speaker 2: But think about it. How many teams have four guys,

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Speaker 2: I mean, guys like a Kawhi Leonard, a Viatza, Zubots,

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Speaker 2: Not a lot of teams have that luxury.

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Speaker 3: No, no, they don't. And here's the thing. You know, Kawhi,

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Speaker 3: when he's healthy, you could argue that he could be

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Speaker 3: the best player on the planet at any time. And

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Speaker 3: we got a chance to see the Clippers as the

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Speaker 3: season ended, and James James Harden looks as close to

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Speaker 3: form as he did to his Houston days. Uh, they're

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Speaker 3: defending at a high clip. But again, I think the

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Speaker 3: scariest thing that we saw was just Kawhi Leonard with

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Speaker 3: This game that we're watching, this series with the Clippers

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Speaker 3: in Denver, two of these teams could come out the West.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean when you talk about I mean, as

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Speaker 2: What a story. I mean, he's he's probably if he

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Speaker 2: In a game where he's going yep against Jokich, I

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Speaker 2: the years. The Lakers essentially gave him away to the

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Speaker 3: No, it did surprise me, and I think the Lakers

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Speaker 3: Think about Clint Coppella. Clint Capella got eighty million dollars,

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Speaker 3: not the same. But nonetheless, you're seeing that James Harden

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, Joker just missed two free throws and

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Speaker 2: the Clippers scored at the other end. So now the

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Speaker 3: Ryan oh Man, I you know what, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 3: with the Clippers. I think it's a it's a tight series.

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Speaker 3: But from what I saw from these two teams down

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Speaker 3: It's a weird year. As tight as this race is

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Speaker 4: Locker room drama, coaching's coaches fired, Like like two of

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just such.

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Speaker 2: As never happened. Lucas traded right, you know, honestly, I

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Speaker 2: that's right, the Denver Nuggets better fire their coach as well.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I love how Adam Silver likes to erase

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Speaker 2: He denies anything's going on, But I don't know, it

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Speaker 2: just seems to It just seems to work out for them,

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Speaker 2: right Ryan, I guess coincidence.

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Speaker 3: Huh. Well, you know, they still got to play the game,

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Speaker 3: And make no mistake, you know, with Lebron James, if

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Speaker 3: he plays even at not, I can't I don't even

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Speaker 3: we've been having this conversation right for for some time,

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Speaker 3: I think we'd be lying to the Eynings right now

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Speaker 3: But the Lakers have as much a shot as anybody

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Speaker 2: I have some conspiracy theories. I want to share it

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Speaker 2: throughout the show today. I'm big on those Ryans, all right.

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Speaker 2: So right now, here's where we are. Clippers lead the

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Speaker 2: the Warriors may be in a little more trouble in

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Speaker 3: For one, Houston's deep, and they're deep defensively, so they

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Speaker 3: the question marks come. But Ime Udoka, who should be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned Udoka, who obviously has the mess situation

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Speaker 2: because of you know, all the different rumors, everything that

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Speaker 3: Well, the one thing that he stepped in and done

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Speaker 7: You're Ryan other than cam Ward, who will be the

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Speaker 7: We're gonna talk more about this next Saturday, Steve, when

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Speaker 2: Well, think about this, guys. We are sitting here five

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Speaker 2: I mean, I've never seen anything like this, and so yeah,

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Speaker 2: So do you expect this is going to be I

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Speaker 7: Well, see, here's what I would tell you. If your

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Speaker 5: Who needed that strusure in the worst way.

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Speaker 7: If a couple guys drop, sure, And by the way,

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Speaker 7: So by the time they get to the draft. That's

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Speaker 7: You've already worked these things out in advance. So yeah, Steve,

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Speaker 5: With him and say, you know what, we can handle him.

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Speaker 7: Now we mentioned the Steelers, right though, I don't see

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Speaker 7: What are you hearing from him behind the scenes? Ryan, here,

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Speaker 7: I can get to and Andrew Barry, the GM of

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Speaker 7: the Browns, who who has personnel control. He's very usually

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Speaker 7: very tight liped publicly. He doesn't really say much. He

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Speaker 7: doesn't want to give out much information. And he was

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Speaker 7: asked the question, where do you see Travis Hunter playing receiver,

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Speaker 7: a quarterback, receiver a cornerback? And I did figure he

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Speaker 7: would not give the well, we we see him as

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Speaker 7: both or you know, we see him as a corner, which.

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Speaker 5: Is generally the way he's seen.

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Speaker 7: And he goes, well, you know, we see him more

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Speaker 7: as a receiver than a corner. And I was just like, wow, hey,

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Speaker 7: you're going to give that out when you have the

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Speaker 7: second pick overall, and b this.

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Speaker 5: Is a hot button tomic. It's just stunned.

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Speaker 7: I know him to say hello, I don't know him

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Speaker 7: very well, but I know the way he is talking

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Speaker 7: to people work with him, and that was not the

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Speaker 7: way he is.

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Speaker 5: I was just kind of stunned by that. So Ryan

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Speaker 5: just polling teams.

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Speaker 7: As you know, over the series of weeks, certainly corners

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Speaker 7: the position that they want him to play, a lot

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Speaker 7: of the teams do. But that's not what Andrew Berry said,

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Speaker 7: and he said it again this week. By the way

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Speaker 7: he doubled down on it. I'm a little surprised by that.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 7: I know Travis has come out and said, hey, if

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Speaker 7: I don't want to you know, I don't want to

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Speaker 7: play football if I can't play both. Now here's what

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Speaker 7: it's gonna happen. Okay, Ay, he's gonna play wherever they

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Speaker 7: tell him to play. Yeah, okay, number one, number two. Coaches,

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Speaker 7: I could tell you this will not go like you

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Speaker 7: get this guy who's unbelievably gifted, right, Eventually you got

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Speaker 7: to say, okay, are we getting him this week? If

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Speaker 7: you're trying to put a game plan together, you have

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Speaker 7: to know it is really interesting. I gotta tell you this,

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Speaker 7: it's fascinating. And I do believe he'll go to Cleveland.

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Speaker 7: And by the way, they need help at both positions,

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Speaker 7: receiver at corner, so I mean, take your pick, but

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Speaker 7: that would be kind of cool though, if he went there,

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Speaker 7: because after everything they've been through with the awful Deshaun

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Speaker 7: Watson situation. The fans is ever break. You get an

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Speaker 7: elite athlete and talent in Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 2: All Adam will just have to wait until we see

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Speaker 2: what plays out. But right now it's been very quiet,

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Speaker 2: not some of the wow rumors that we've been hearing

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Speaker 2: in recent years. So usually the calm before the storm.

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Speaker 2: I want entertainment on Thursday. You know it's in Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: They get an opportunity to host the Draft. I want,

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Speaker 2: I want some histronics. I've seen it all, like I

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Speaker 2: live at the draft.

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Speaker 7: Probably there were two or three shockers to me. When

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Speaker 7: the Broncos drafted Tim Tebow in the first round. You

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Speaker 7: could have pushed me over with a feather. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 7: stuff like that. I love that when yeah, oh no,

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Speaker 7: I got the best one. I got the best one ever.

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Speaker 7: It's your former team. And when I thought for sure

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Speaker 7: that it was a mistake, like the commissioner read it wrong,

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Speaker 7: Sebastian Janakowski a kicker in the first round.

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Speaker 5: Yes, that's the biggest surprise in my man.

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Speaker 2: They did it with Ray guy and by the way,

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Speaker 2: hey he's all famer the Stormer. The story was when

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Speaker 2: when Al Davis made that selection in nineteen seventy three,

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Speaker 2: taken a punter Ray guy in the first round. His

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Speaker 2: coach John Madden stormed out of the draft room. He

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Speaker 2: was livid, really and then he realize next that yeah,

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Speaker 2: all time, great, great stuff. As always, Adam will check

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Speaker 2: in with you next week.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: That's Adam Kaplan, our NFL insider. All right, let's find

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Speaker 2: out what is trending right now, and Martin, we got

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Speaker 2: a pretty pretty exciting basketball game going on right now.

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Speaker 8: We do overtime in the first game of the Western

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Speaker 8: Conference playoffs, Nicola Jokicic and the Denver Nuggets versus Kawhi

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Speaker 8: Leonard and the Los Angeles Clippers. The Clippers defense has

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Speaker 8: been everywhere the last few possessions, but it is now

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Speaker 8: a one ten to one oh seven score Denver making

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Speaker 8: a fourth quarter in overtime comeback that we're trailing for

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Speaker 8: most of this the game, over six point five seconds

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Speaker 8: left in the matchup right. Leading the Nuggets in scoring

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Speaker 8: is Nicola Jokics with twenty eight points. Jamal Murray follows

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Speaker 8: up with twenty one, Aaron Gordon with twenty five himself,

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Speaker 8: and the Clipper side of things, James Harden had thirty

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Speaker 8: two points, Kawhi with twenty two and just Steve his

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Speaker 8: defensive influence.

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Speaker 2: Has been felt in this game like he like you.

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Speaker 2: Basically we are looking.

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Speaker 8: At playoff Kawhi win loser draw in this matchup with

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Speaker 8: his twenty two points, five or six rebounds and actually

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Speaker 8: seven turnofs. That's no good to assist. But Chris Dunn

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Speaker 8: also adds ten points. As we're five point leading now

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Speaker 8: for the Denver Nuggets and over timas Norman Powell will

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Speaker 8: dribble the ball of the court, take a three point shot,

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Speaker 8: make make it so point nine seconds left times a

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Speaker 8: lock kicks out, uh, the Denver Nuggets will be the

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Speaker 8: winners of Game one of the four to five series

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Speaker 8: one twelve to one.

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Speaker 5: Ten.

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Speaker 8: Now to bring our attention back to the Eastern Conference,

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Speaker 8: at ten to eight, the New York Knicks leading the

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Speaker 8: Detroit Pissons are the three to six matchups six twenty

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Speaker 8: six left in the first quarter. There it's at ten

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Speaker 8: to eight and major in NHL, the Saint Louis Blues

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Speaker 8: have a one goal lead over the winning peg Jets

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Speaker 8: with eight point fifty left in the first period. Has

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Speaker 8: playoffs everywhere Major League baseball. We got extra innings in Seattle.

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Speaker 8: In Seattle and Toronto, three to three, bottom of the eleventh,

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Speaker 8: top of the seventh inning, the Orioles lead the Reds

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Speaker 8: five to four going into the bottom of the ninth inning,

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Speaker 8: the Pirates trying to come back from the three to

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Speaker 8: zero deficit. The Guardians currently have them in bottom of

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Speaker 8: the eighth inning. White House looking for their first road win,

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Speaker 8: tie three to three against the Red Sox. Yankees Eavy

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Speaker 8: six to four lead over the Rays. In the bottom

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Speaker 8: of the seventh inning. The Nationals have a twelve to

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Speaker 8: six lead over the Rockies again six oh two left

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Speaker 8: in the first quarter, twelve to eight. The score between

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Speaker 8: the Knicks and the Pacers. Just saw the Nuggets beat

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Speaker 8: the Clippers one, twelve to one.

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Speaker 3: Ten.

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Speaker 2: Back to you guys, all right, Martin, Yeah, And we

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Speaker 2: got the Knicks and the Pistons underway twelve eight right now.

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Speaker 2: Knicks with the early lead in the first quarter, and

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Speaker 2: of course later it'll be the Lakers and the Timberwolves.

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Speaker 2: by Dollar Shave Club. All right, Ryan, so let's talk

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Speaker 2: about the Nuggets coming back in this game. The Clippers

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Speaker 2: got off to a hot start, they held on to

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Speaker 2: that lead late, but the Nuggets find a way and

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Speaker 2: I guess that was going to be the big question

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Speaker 2: I had going into this series. How would the Nuggets

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Speaker 2: react without Malone? You know, the leader of this team,

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Speaker 2: the guy that guided them to a championship just two

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Speaker 2: years ago. And the way they played down the stretch

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Speaker 2: and end up winning this game in overtime, I think

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Speaker 2: says a lot about the maturity of this team and

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Speaker 2: the fact that at least for the moment, they're gonna

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Speaker 2: be okay for the moment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you're not gonna feel Mike Malone's presence

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Speaker 3: missing until you're down zer two on the road in

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Speaker 3: the NBA Finals finals or the conference championship. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this team is good enough to get you there, probably

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Speaker 3: without Mike Malone. But do they go all the way

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Speaker 3: and Mike Malone? I played for Mike. E's as certified

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Speaker 3: as they come. And I just thought it was intriguing

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Speaker 3: because we seen as you brought that up, Steve, like

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Speaker 3: we've seen some crazy things happen, Like think about Memphis

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Speaker 3: getting that five second call when they couldn't get the

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Speaker 3: ball in bounds out of they end up getting the

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Speaker 3: big win against Dallas the other day. Did you know

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Speaker 3: Taylor Jenkins is somewhere going Yep, I had to play

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Speaker 3: John up for that. Knew it was gonna happen. So nonetheless,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's still the players that play the game.

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Speaker 3: But the coaches come and they show value. And anytime

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Speaker 3: you come behind a great coach, you got to step

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Speaker 3: up and show and prove yourself. Joe Missoula a world

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Speaker 3: champ of a coach. He kept getting questioned for not

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Speaker 3: being em Udoka. So that's just part of going out

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Speaker 3: and proving yourself. We remember many moons ago and Spolstra

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Speaker 3: was questioned, you know, and having a step into too

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Speaker 3: his shoes. But I thought it was a huge win

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Speaker 3: for Denver. It's a veteran club, as veteran as it gets,

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Speaker 3: and with those type of teams, Steve, you know what

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Speaker 3: you're teaching motivation. It may not be the ex's and

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Speaker 3: those those guys know what to do. It's the motivation

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Speaker 3: and it's the conflict resolution when you do get in

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Speaker 3: those sticky situations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I even though the Clippers did lose this game,

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Speaker 2: I don't think that that really hurts this team. They

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Speaker 2: played well in this game. The guys that needed to

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Speaker 2: stepped up did some big shots are made late in

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Speaker 2: this game. By you know, Harden and Leonard and you know,

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Speaker 2: so I don't. I mean, it's tough to lose a

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Speaker 2: game where you feel like, wow, we really have this

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Speaker 2: game and could have taken home court advantage. Let me

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Speaker 2: let me ask you about that part of it.

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Speaker 5: Ryan.

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Speaker 2: You know, we talked about home court advantage a lot. Oh,

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Speaker 2: they're playing for home court advantage. We saw what happened

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Speaker 2: to Denver last year, you know, losing Game seven at

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Speaker 2: home to Minnesota in the playoffs. Is home court all

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Speaker 2: that or is that reserved for certain teams where they

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Speaker 2: you know, certain places where they actually really do play

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Speaker 2: another level of basketball at home.

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Speaker 3: No, home court is huge because if both teams are

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Speaker 3: pretty squares, they even comes down to home court advantage,

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Speaker 3: and you want to be with your home crowd. Now,

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Speaker 3: as a veteran group, I remember in Boston we were

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Speaker 3: the seventh seed playing Atlanta, but we knew we went

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Speaker 3: into Atlanta saying, you know, as a lower seed, we

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Speaker 3: made it to our strength. So we said, like this,

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Speaker 3: we just need one of these two games and the

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Speaker 3: series changes one of these two and we're sitting right

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Speaker 3: where we want to be. We've stolen the series. So

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Speaker 3: if you look at it as you know, you're pretty

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Speaker 3: much playing with house money in those situations, and then

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Speaker 3: you can go up three to one in a jiffy.

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Speaker 3: You get a team questioning themselves. And those game twos

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Speaker 3: are so pivotal because if you lose confidence, then you

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Speaker 3: go on the road. Oh it's tough, man, and then

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Speaker 3: you got a you know, the a team that loss

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Speaker 3: has to go and still win. So there's nothing better

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Speaker 3: than playoff basketball. But that's kind of the psyche. And

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Speaker 3: I think when you have two balanced teams, it could

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Speaker 3: be a difference. So for example, right, we talked about earlier, right,

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Speaker 3: Steve Houston and Golden State. Right, our young guys need

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Speaker 3: on court advantage, Yeah, need that excitement behind them.

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess while I'm looking at two veteran teams,

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Speaker 2: like the two teams you just watch, you know, with

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Speaker 2: you know, and so they've seen both sides of it.

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Speaker 2: All right, We'll continue to monitor NIX right now. Lead

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Speaker 2: the Pistons twenty to nineteen. First quarter of that game again,

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Speaker 2: Lakers and Timberwolves later on. Oh, that's great to have

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Speaker 2: the NBA playoffs going on right now. On the other side, though, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts on UCLA's new quarterback

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Speaker 2: courtesy of the University of Tennessee. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: our Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. So Ryan, I've

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Speaker 2: been doing TV forever here in La along with radio

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Speaker 2: and everything else. Thing about TV is you know, you

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Speaker 2: got to get the names right, and so Ea Malayava,

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Speaker 2: nico Ea Malayava. I have now learned this name, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: because he is our quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: UCLA has brought in the former Tennessee quarterback nico Ea

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Speaker 2: Malayava as their new quarterback, which is quite a score

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Speaker 2: because obviously this guy guided Tennessee into the college football

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Speaker 2: playoff a year ago. But I want to get your

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Speaker 2: thoughts Ryan as a former star athlete at UCLA and

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Speaker 2: just the whole change in dynamic of college sports with

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Speaker 2: the transfer portal and nil. It just seems to be

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Speaker 2: total confusion. Can you imagine Ryan Hollands a big out

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Speaker 2: on the you know, auction block year after year teams

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Speaker 2: coming in say, yeah, I'd love to have that guy.

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Speaker 2: You know, we'll pay you a little bit more if

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Speaker 2: you leave U C l A. Where are we going

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Speaker 2: with this, Ryan? In your opinion? Where where's the end

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Speaker 2: game for college sports? With the continuing seemingly confusion surrounding

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Speaker 2: the transfer portal and n I L.

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Speaker 3: This is thick. This is a thick one. And for

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Speaker 3: one I was gonna let you say Nico's name first, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I was just gonna come Niko.

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Speaker 2: Remember this. It's it's six syllables. E a malay ava.

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Speaker 3: E lva quote malay ava male e lave Okay, I'll work. Listen,

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Speaker 3: I got out.

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Speaker 5: To the.

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Speaker 3: Work.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, no e malay ava.

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Speaker 3: There we go, l lave mava Okay. Either way, here's

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Speaker 3: where I stand with it. And I'm really kind of

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Speaker 3: furious about the nil thing. But for different reasons, Steve,

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Speaker 3: then probably most know. I'm furious at the storylines. I'm

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Speaker 3: furious at the former athletes and the people that aren't

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Speaker 3: doing their homework. They're mad that these kids are transferring

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Speaker 3: and moving. They're counting the dollars that these kids make,

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Speaker 3: but they don't have a remote clue how much money

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Speaker 3: the universities have made, not just for free, but are

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Speaker 3: still making off of these kids. They are playing for

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Speaker 3: pennies compared to their actual worth. In the NBA, the

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Speaker 3: owners and the players essentially split revenue. Every other professional sport,

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Speaker 3: the athletes are treated like professionals. When your coaches are professional,

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Speaker 3: the TV deals are professional, you don't get paid like

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Speaker 3: a professional. That's a problem. And what's happening now, Steve,

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Speaker 3: is these guys that are transferring and moving about, and

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Speaker 3: the public perception that keeps getting pushed through social media

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Speaker 3: and television is that, hey, they're ungrateful. What are they

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Speaker 3: doing with this? They need to stay where they are.

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Speaker 3: And Steve, I want to ask you this or I

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Speaker 3: want to throw this out, help me with this one.

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Speaker 3: If someone like me or you got an offer, and

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Speaker 3: maybe we're in different places, but imagine we're in a

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Speaker 3: more of a different place, a younger place in our life.

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Speaker 3: We're pretty much content where we are. But if someone

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Speaker 3: offers you a third more money or twice the amount

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Speaker 3: of money that you could be making, you're going to

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Speaker 3: go and take that job. If you're not happy at

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Speaker 3: a workplace, what do we do? We hit the market

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Speaker 3: and we look for other work. Now, the challenge that

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Speaker 3: I proposed to is that college the NCAA fixed this

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Speaker 3: problems from a university standpoint. So I don't know. I've

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Speaker 3: talked in depth with this, and I don't know. See

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Speaker 3: here's someone Thill said, maybe throw at a salary cap.

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Speaker 3: I said, okay, Well, let's have a revenue split half

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Speaker 3: to the schools, half to the athletes or the athletic program,

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Speaker 3: and then half to the athletes. We'll do a salary

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Speaker 3: cap then, and we all know, at the end of

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Speaker 3: the day, every single college program is not created equally.

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Speaker 3: The football team may bring in more than the basketball

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Speaker 3: team right now, women's basketball may bring in more than

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Speaker 3: you know, the track team. Per se, They're not equal,

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Speaker 3: and they've never been treated equal. And if you want

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Speaker 3: to claim that they're equal, put an equal TV deal

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Speaker 3: out there. Put equal for the coaches. There's a reason

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Speaker 3: the football coach makes a couple more million dollars then

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Speaker 3: another sports coach. So no disrespect. Give people what they're earned.

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Speaker 3: You do it in the workplace, and treat it like

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Speaker 3: the workplace.

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Speaker 2: Well here, here's something interesting. So Josh Heipeld takes over

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Speaker 2: as the coach at Tennessee before the twenty one season.

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Speaker 2: After his second year, he was under contract, right, he

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Speaker 2: signs his initial four or five year contract at Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: They have a breakout year, they end up winning the

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Speaker 2: Orange Bowl number six ranking, and he gets a raise

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Speaker 2: to nine million even though he has an existing contract.

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Speaker 2: They're like, uh, well, extend your deal now. We're going

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Speaker 2: to pay you nine million a year. I mean, when

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Speaker 2: you think about it, isn't that what Malayava was saying, Okay,

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Speaker 2: you were paying me an il money and then I

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Speaker 2: guided you to the playoffs. So if you're going to

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Speaker 2: redo the deal of the coach after a good year,

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Speaker 2: how about redoing the deal of the quarterback after a

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Speaker 2: good year.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you've.

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Speaker 2: Already set the president with your own coach, who after

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Speaker 2: his second season was a nice year for them, they

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Speaker 2: won eleven games, they got to a number six ranking.

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Speaker 2: They stepped in said we're gonna give you a raise though,

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Speaker 2: oh he had a contract, and so this is this

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Speaker 2: is where it gets tricky. Now the deal with Malayava

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Speaker 2: is reportedly he's taking less money at UCLA, and it's

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Speaker 2: more about the system they run or are going to

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Speaker 2: run that he feels will better prepare him for the

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Speaker 2: next level. In other words, Tennessee said, no, we're going

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Speaker 2: to do what's best for Tennessee. We're not worried about

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Speaker 2: putting in a system to make you a better prospect

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Speaker 2: at the next level. And that's so. There again stories

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Speaker 2: on both sides in the situation. But again, at some

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Speaker 2: point we're going to have to get a little more

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Speaker 2: stability in the situation. I think this is a big

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Speaker 2: reason why Nick Saban some of these longtime coaches saying,

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Speaker 2: if I have to redo my entire roster every single year,

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Speaker 2: I just don't want to do that.

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Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you this, Steve how And also

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Speaker 3: he's a hometown kid. He plays your home beach, so

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Speaker 3: he wants to come home, of course, But Steve, how

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Speaker 3: would your company get you to stay? What offering for

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Speaker 3: OK four one K a retirement plan.

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Speaker 2: There's actually been a few times in the one hundred

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Speaker 2: years I've been in this business where, you know, occasionally

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Speaker 2: one of my employers says, what is it going to

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Speaker 2: take to keep you? And it's amazing when they say that,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, let me tell you all right?

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Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side more on the first

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Speaker 2: day of the NBA Playoffs. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: nixt lead the Pistons thirty five thirty four. We got

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Speaker 2: nine minutes to go in the first half in this game.

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Speaker 2: How about the job Bickerstaff did. I know you're you

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Speaker 2: got your own fit as NBA Coach of the Year,

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Speaker 2: But you talk about year to year, the mess that

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Speaker 2: the Pistons were a year ago. For them to jump

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Speaker 2: all the way into the playoffs as a six seed,

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Speaker 2: Bickerstaff did a hell of a job this year, Ryan.

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Speaker 3: He did. They gave him some veterans in a place

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Speaker 3: seemingly that nobody wanted to be, and much like Houston,

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Speaker 3: they kind of hit the switch and said, you know,

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Speaker 3: we're going from rebuilding to hey, we've got enough. And

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Speaker 3: Kate Cunningham is as box office as it gets. I

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Speaker 3: actually was drafted to Charlotte where JB. Bickerstaff was worked

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Speaker 3: with him twice over in Minnesota. He's a good friend

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Speaker 3: of mine, man, I really consider him family. But JB's

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Speaker 3: done an excellent job and he doesn't get enough credit

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Speaker 3: for what he did in Cleveland. I think it's crazy

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Speaker 3: and it's tough because you know, when you're that good

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Speaker 3: and you lose, it's got to be somebody's fault, you

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Speaker 3: know my opinion, Evan Mobley just wasn't ready yet. And

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Speaker 3: when he took a huge jump and Daris Garland took

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Speaker 3: a jump, the Cavaliers got better and you see where

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Speaker 3: they are. So nonetheless, JB. Biggerstaff was huge, huge with

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Speaker 3: their development, and you see overnight what is done in

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Speaker 3: Detroit and there man quietly Steve, they're that team that

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Speaker 3: nobody wants to play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say they are and obviously a team

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Speaker 2: on the rise right now. I've been laughing, honestly at

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Speaker 2: some of the national pundits that are looking to add

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Speaker 2: to the projection for the NBA Finals Ryan, and they're like, okay,

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Speaker 2: so who out of the West is going to play

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Speaker 2: the Celtics in the finals. And I'm like, okay, you're

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Speaker 2: completely dismissing Cleveland. They had three All Stars this year,

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Speaker 2: they have probably I don't know one of, if not

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Speaker 2: the most dynamic back court in the NBA right now.

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Speaker 2: And so are we too quick to dismiss the Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Cavaliers are the defending champions, gonna seemingly have a walk

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Speaker 2: all way to the NBA Finals, even though they're the

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Speaker 2: two seed in the East. And if there is a

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Speaker 2: team out there that could give them their best challenge

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Speaker 2: in the East, who is it.

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Speaker 3: Ryan, Cleveland gives them their best challenge. When they went

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Speaker 3: out and made the trade for Hunter, that was essentially saying,

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Speaker 3: you know, we need to stay a little bit more

862
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 3: dynamic and we need to be able to guard guard

863
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: against what Boston can bring to the table. But you know,

864
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 3: make no mistake, Boston got better from where they were

865
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 3: a year ago. It's gonna be really hard for them

866
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 3: not to come out the East. They're really good. Steve

867
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 3: and I get it, you know. And in terms of Cleveland,

868
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 3: they're the most equipped. You see the success that they've had,

869
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 3: but you got to see it in the playoffs. And again,

870
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 3: like I mentioned earlier, if Evan Mobley is a guy

871
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 3: who can you know, go for twenty five and ten

872
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 3: at night in the series in the playoffs, which he

873
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 3: has to show, that changes things right now, as is,

874
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 3: there's the work cut out, you know, at the end

875
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 3: of the day for the Cleveland Cavaliers. But Boston's so

876
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 3: good and it's forget the three point shooting, forget the

877
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 3: one on one from Tatam and Brown. They can beat

878
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 3: you on the defensive end, like they have four just

879
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 3: lockdown defenders, and that is by far the biggest difference

880
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 3: in what they do.

881
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: All Right, So coming up later, we're gonna have the

882
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 2: Tea Wolves taking on the Lakers. As I mentioned my

883
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 2: conspiracy theories, but the NBA engineered the firing of Jenkins

884
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: in Memphis so that that would clear the way in

885
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 2: a huge head to have matchup against the Grizzlies that day,

886
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: and then of course engineered the inexplicable firing them alone

887
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: with three games to go, the team that's knocked the

888
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 2: Lakers out of the playoffs each of the last two years.

889
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: And then of course the Luka Doncic trade, which by

890
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: the way, should have netted Dallas at least six number ones,

891
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: at least six number ones in that deal instead of

892
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 2: one number one and a you know, future Hall of

893
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: Fame player that's had injury problems galore. It was a giveaway.

894
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: That being said, this was a Timberwolves team that shock

895
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 2: the world last year by knocking out the defending champions.

896
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: Then they end up losing to Luca and the Mavericks

897
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: in the Western Conference Finals. And somehow a year ago,

898
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: it just seemed that Anthony Edwards was getting more play

899
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 2: than he is this year. I'm not sure why. You know,

900
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: this guy is still one of the absolute elite players

901
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 2: in this league. So when you look at this matchup

902
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: of the Lakers and the Timberwells, and obviously this game

903
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 2: will start tonight, it'll be at Crypto dot Com Arena. Lakers,

904
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: by the way, bypass the play in tournament, they were

905
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: in the play in tournament three of the last four

906
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: years Riot, so you know, this was something that they

907
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: just haven't had an opportunity to actually start a series

908
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 2: in the first round with the home court advantage. But

909
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 2: is this seemingly a walkover for this superstar Laker team

910
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: with Doncic and obviously they'll bron and Austin Reeves or

911
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 2: could the Timberwolves shock the world in this series.

912
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna be a walkover. But I

913
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 3: like the Lakers, And the reason I like the Lakers

914
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 3: is because Anthony Edwards is still learning how to play basketball.

915
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 3: He's an immense talent, but the same thing can make

916
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 3: you great, can make things tough on you. And at

917
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 3: the end of the day, when you're looking at Anthony Edwards,

918
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 3: he's still playing hero ball. He's still young and you know,

919
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 3: wants to do everything by himself. And when he learns

920
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 3: to really buckle down and play basketball, I think Minnesota

921
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 3: has a chance to be really good. And he's already good.

922
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 3: He's got that type of talent. But we've seen it

923
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 3: in the playoffs before because he doesn't shy away from

924
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 3: the smoke. He likes those matchups where you know he

925
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 3: can run himself essentially into the ground.

926
00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 2: The Lakers future with Luka Doncic. So I've said this

927
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 2: last week. Some people agree with me. Others were like,

928
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: you are just being stupid Hartman, which course I've heard

929
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: that many times over the years. But I maintain that

930
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 2: this is Lebron's last year as a Laker because I

931
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 2: look at the Lucas situation and by the way, if

932
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: you have been over to Crypto dot com arena since

933
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: Luca arrived, there's no Lebron buzz anymore. In fact, I

934
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 2: actually saw one National show was talking about who's the

935
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: best Robin, you know, like Batman and Robin in the

936
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: NBA playoffs, and they included Lebron. At what point of

937
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 2: his career has Lebron ever been the number two? That

938
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 2: would be never This is Luka Doncic's team. He just

939
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 2: turned twenty six years of age. And as you look

940
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 2: to the future to build around your now star. And

941
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 2: by the way, everybody now these Laker home games are

942
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: all decked out in their seventy seven jerseys. It's Luca's team.

943
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 2: The fans are with Luca. I don't know if that

944
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 2: includes a soon to be forty one year old Lebron James.

945
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 2: My guess it doesn't. Maybe a lot depends on how

946
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 2: deep the Lakers go in the playoffs this year, Ryan,

947
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: But if you're the Lakers right now, obviously Austin Reeves

948
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 2: has emerged as a borderline All Star, averaging over twenty

949
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 2: points a game. They have some young pieces, but they

950
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: need more. They need interior defense. There's a lot of

951
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 2: things they still need. I don't know if Lebron would

952
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 2: ever agree to a trade. I'm sure it would only

953
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: be to a specific team if he doesn't decide to retire,

954
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: if indeed they want to turn the page with him.

955
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 2: But how do you look at the Lakers beyond this

956
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 2: season as they now are fully entrenched in the Luka

957
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: Doncic era.

958
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think Lebron's going anywhere. I think you're

959
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 3: absolutely spot on, though, is that they get a future

960
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 3: in Lebron. You know, they get some future, they get

961
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 3: someone who can take over and right now, you know,

962
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 3: as we see through the playoffs, you could argue he's

963
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 3: a better player right now. But the reason that I

964
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 3: don't think, and even if it was the best move

965
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 3: for the Lakers, let's say, right even if it was

966
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 3: the best moves, hey move on from Lebron. It just

967
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 3: it makes sense at this point. I don't think that

968
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: they do it because the Lakers are very much about

969
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 3: the business of basketball, and they still know the fame

970
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 3: that Lebron James holds. They still know the tickets that

971
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 3: he sells, you know, they still know the name that

972
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 3: he has at the end of the day. So I

973
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 3: don't think because of those reasons, he's going anywhere. But

974
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 3: ultimately you can look at it and say, well, that

975
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 3: would be the smart thing to do. You don't. He's

976
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 3: already gone past, he's already you know, playing with house money,

977
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 3: and Lebron has enough of a name where he probably

978
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 3: would veto a trade somewhere. You know, another team would

979
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 3: be scared saying unless if they're possibly even the Cleveland Cavaliers,

980
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 3: and he'd be saying, well, I'm not going. Yeah, I

981
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 3: don't want to go. I'm done. You know, for that

982
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 3: same reason he's almost he's just so unique, Steve. We

983
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 3: just haven't seen anything like it.

984
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 2: You know, I agree with you. Now, he would love

985
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 2: to go to Golden State, I think, and that's one

986
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: team I think he would sort of like, yeah, I

987
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 2: could see that, you know, play with Steph. I mean,

988
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 2: and again I don't say that he can't play a

989
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 2: supporting role because he's really done that with Luca. There

990
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 2: are games when he has stepped aside and allowed Luca,

991
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 2: who is a bald, dominant player, which obviously for most

992
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 2: of Lebron's career he's been the same type of player,

993
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: but he's allowed Luca to take over. It just seems

994
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 2: to me right now that obviously one thing that Lakers

995
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: have to do is get Lucas signed to a long

996
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 2: term deal because right now, after next season he's a

997
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 2: walk away. So they got to focus on that first.

998
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,400
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1003
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1011
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1012
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: be joined by our Fox Sports Radio NBA insider get

1013
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: his thoughts on this first day of the NBA playoffs.

1014
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: Mark Medina will join us. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

1015
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 2: Steve Harbin, Ryan Hollins, Fox Sports Saturday. We are live

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1020
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1021
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1022
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:12,840
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1026
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: with these NBA playoffs which are underway today is our

1027
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 2: NBA insider Mark Medina. So Mark earlier today, Pacers no

1028
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 2: problem at home against the Bucks and then just a

1029
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 2: shootout between the Nuggets and the Clippers, and the Nuggets

1030
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 2: found a way. And you know, Ryan and I were

1031
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 2: just talking about, you know, how would this team play

1032
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 2: in the postseason without their leader Malone and the way

1033
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 2: they came back and pulled out a huge game for them,

1034
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 2: an absolute must game in my opinion to win this series.

1035
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 2: They were able to pull it off. But how do

1036
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 2: you see this playing out right now between the Clip

1037
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: and the Nuggets, Mark, Yeah, I expect.

1038
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 9: That this is going to go the full way of

1039
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 9: a seven game series. I think the Nuggets they should

1040
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 9: encouraging signs that's not just about Nikola Jokich. They can

1041
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 9: rely on other players, whether it's Shamal Murray, hitten shots,

1042
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 9: Christian Brown hitting shots, Russell Westbrook having a revenge game

1043
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 9: against the Clippers. That's something that you haven't seen the

1044
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 9: Nuggets do on a consistent basis, hence all these changes.

1045
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 9: But this game kind of reminded me of when there's

1046
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 9: a mid season firing and you know whether it's right

1047
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 9: or wrong. A lot of times players run on this

1048
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 9: adrenaline rush and want to buy into what the new

1049
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 9: coach is saying. And you saw that, and it also helps.

1050
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 9: There's a familiarity and respect level for David Adelman. But

1051
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 9: given where the Clippers are and how competitive it is,

1052
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 9: I expect that it's going to be another competitive one

1053
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 9: again too.

1054
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 3: Mark, are you buying that the thunder in the Rockets

1055
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 3: are somehow playoff underdogs? Is that a fair assessment to mate,

1056
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 3: because a lot of people are saying that it's very controversial.

1057
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 3: They're young, obviously there's name still But are you buying

1058
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 3: that those two teams are underdogs?

1059
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's very wild to think of that as the

1060
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 9: first and second seeds as underdogs. I think that if

1061
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 9: I were to choose which one is an underdog, I

1062
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 9: would say the Rockets and it's not because they have

1063
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 9: I think nine players on their playoff rotation that are

1064
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 9: going to set the playoffs the first time. I think

1065
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 9: it's more of the fact that they're facing the Golden

1066
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 9: State Warriors, obviously much different teams than when they want

1067
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 9: championships with the Common Denominators. They still have Steph Curry, Draymond,

1068
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 9: Green State's curse, still the head coach, Keavon Mooney, and

1069
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 9: they're paying the second are still role players, and Jimmy

1070
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 9: Butler is a very big playoff edition and he you know,

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Speaker 9: Treys as a Lion edition and he's called Playoff Jimmy

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Speaker 9: for a reason. But when you look at the Rockets,

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Speaker 9: you know Emduke is emy Adok is a proven coach.

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Speaker 9: They have good veterans with Fred van Vliet and Dyl

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Speaker 9: Brooks that you know it could go either way. But

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Speaker 9: the Thunder I don't buy that at all that they're

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Speaker 9: an underdog. I mean they've been the most dominant team

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Speaker 9: in the Western Conference and by a wide margin. I

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Speaker 9: think shad Gyogis, Alexander will Win MVP, jal Williams Scott

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Speaker 9: his first All Star appearance, and they just have a

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Speaker 9: lot of depth across the board with a lot of

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Speaker 9: great wing defenders, they got a great front court and

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00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 9: Chet Holmgren, and that they Hardensteigins that barring a major

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Speaker 9: injury to one or two of their players, I don't

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Speaker 9: see any scenario that they lose the Memphis Grizza in

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Speaker 9: the first round.

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Speaker 2: All right, Mark, you know I shared some of my

1088
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Speaker 2: conspiracy theories with you how the league god Jenkins fired

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00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 2: by the Grizzlies right before they played the Lakers in

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00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 2: a huge matchup during the regular season. They got Malone

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Speaker 2: fired because while the Nuggets have knocked the Lakers out

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Speaker 2: of the playoffs the last couple of years, they basically

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00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 2: enabled the Lakers to steal Luka Dancis for next to nothing,

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Speaker 2: one first round pick for a guy that should have

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00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 2: netted seven first round picks. So everything's been working in

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Speaker 2: the favor of the Lakers as they go into the postseason.

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00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 2: This is rarefied air. It's been a while since they've

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00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 2: hosted Game one in the first round of the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: you know, on their home court, so you know, they

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Speaker 2: seem to have every advantage going into this series against

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Speaker 2: the Timberwolves. Should there be any concern for Laker fans

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Speaker 2: as they take on a Minnesota team that, oh, by

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Speaker 2: the way, got to the Western Conference Finals last season.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I would favor the Lakers because they've been playing

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Speaker 9: mostly good basketball at the right time. Lebron James has

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Speaker 9: had a week to recover from father time and different injuries.

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Speaker 9: I think the dynamic with them and Luka Dancis are

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Speaker 9: mostly good. Austin Reeves has played an all star caliber level,

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Speaker 9: and their defense has played out of its mind even

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Speaker 9: without Anthony Davis. But I don't think that this is

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Speaker 9: going to be a sweep. I don't think it's going

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Speaker 9: to go seven games either, but Minnesota can still be respectable.

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Speaker 9: Anthony Edwards, he's on board to have career highs from

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Speaker 9: with scoring from three point range. He's expanded his game.

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Speaker 9: He's had a bigger role since the carl Anthonia Towns trade.

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00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 9: You know, I still question the overall fit with Ruby

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00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 9: Bolbert and Julius Randall, but it's gotten better as the

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00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 9: season's gone on. But again, they they've been I think

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Speaker 9: top ten in both offense and defense this season. So again,

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Speaker 9: it's not a doormat opponent, but I expect the Lakers

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Speaker 9: to win in six games.

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Speaker 3: Were you shocked at all, even without Damian Lillard, the

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Speaker 3: way that Indiana dismantled Milwaukee.

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Speaker 9: Yes, I was shocked incredibly because when you look at

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Speaker 9: their starters, I think Janni Sante Kumbo in like thirty

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Speaker 9: six points. Their starters at fourteen points. Kyle Kuzma had

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Speaker 9: a big, fat zero. I did not see that coming.

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Speaker 9: Indiana has been playing really good basketball as of lay.

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Speaker 9: They play in a fast paced Tyree Salburn one of

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Speaker 9: the fastest point guards in the NBA. But I thought

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Speaker 9: it would least be competitive. And when you have someone

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Speaker 9: like Gianatantotokumpo putting up an MVP performance, the fact that

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Speaker 9: they lost and lopsided is bash and shows how terrible

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Speaker 9: the rest of the team played. It's unacceptable and I

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Speaker 9: would expect it's not going to be as much of

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00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 9: a blaw Game two. But they got to get their

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Speaker 9: act together because here's two things. One unpleasantly surprised Damian

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Speaker 9: Loward's coming back at some point in the series because

1139
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 9: blood clots. I've talked to doctors about this. You usually

1140
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 9: need at least three to six months to recover with

1141
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 9: dinners before coming back. But even if Damian Loward's coming back.

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Speaker 9: You have to think that they're going to exercise a

1143
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 9: lot of caution because of just the severity of all this.

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00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 9: So someone like Kyle Kuzma has to play offensively well,

1145
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 9: but also it cuts both ways. Defensively, they got to

1146
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Speaker 9: make stops because not only does that slow down Indiana,

1147
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 9: but that really enables the Bucks to have a balanced

1148
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Speaker 9: offense because they can get out in transition, they can

1149
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 9: get guys open looks that aren't named. Be honest, but

1150
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Speaker 9: when you're not making stops or are commanding a lot

1151
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 9: of turnovers, you shoot yourself in the foot like that.

1152
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 9: And that was just a tough game to watch for

1153
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 9: Milwaukee's own mark.

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Speaker 2: How critical is this postseason for the NBA? And the

1155
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 2: reason I asked that question is the league's been under

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Speaker 2: a lot of criticism this year. You have Adam Silver,

1157
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 2: the commissioner, shooting back of the media, is saying, well,

1158
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 2: we get more negative coverage from the media than any

1159
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 2: other sport, And of course my answer to him is, well,

1160
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Speaker 2: then do something about it. You're the commissioner, figure it out. Obviously,

1161
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: allowing the Lakers to steal donc it was a good

1162
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 2: way to get the you know, people eyeballs on the NBA.

1163
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Speaker 2: But but how critical is it for the NBA to

1164
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 2: have entertaining, long running series, competitive series, you know where

1165
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 2: people you know are buzzing about the NBA playoffs. It

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00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 2: just seems to me like this year is a very

1167
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 2: critical year for them to get some noise, especially out

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00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 2: of these early rounds of the playoffs, so that by

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01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 2: so the time we get to the finals, everyone is

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Speaker 2: fully focused on the NBA.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree with you. Now my coveyat is the

1172
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 9: NBA is in great financial shape, hence the media right steal.

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Speaker 9: But I think from a viewership standpoint and the fact

1174
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 9: that a lot of the focus around the NBA, some

1175
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 9: of it, you know, because of just the way audience

1176
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 9: reacts to things, some of us keeping low hanging fruit topics,

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01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 9: you know, regurgitating. A lot of the focus is away

1178
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 9: from the game itself. And sometimes there's an understandable reason

1179
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 9: for that, because the regular season doesn't have the same

1180
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 9: kind of compelling attention that the playoffs get, so you

1181
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 9: want the focus to be on the court. I know

1182
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 9: there's always debates about the eras. I feel like, you know,

1183
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 9: what's lost in this current generation is even if there's

1184
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 9: legitimate criticism about load management. Who you blame. There's a

1185
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 9: lot of skill in today's NBA that should be celebrated,

1186
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 9: but it should be celebrated when there's a good product

1187
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 9: on the floor. And so I think the challenging part

1188
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 9: about this, Steve, is all things are true, there's legitimate

1189
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 9: criticisms about all these things. But what's very important with

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01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 9: the playoffs You've got to have competitive games, you got

1191
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 9: to have stars rise to the moment, and you have

1192
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 9: to be giving fans a reason to talk about the

1193
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 9: games as opposed to everything else. So it's not going

1194
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 9: to make or break the NBA from a business standpoint,

1195
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 9: they're fined, But when it comes to talking about the games, yes,

1196
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 9: this is a huge opportunity, not only for some of

1197
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 9: the familiar stars that we're talking about Lebron James and

1198
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 9: Steph Curry and Luca Dodgers to have big games, but

1199
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Speaker 9: some of the younger stars as well. So we'll wait

1200
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 9: and see, well day.

1201
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 2: One have a two month journey through these NBA playoffs

1202
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 2: before we emerge with an NBA champion. Mark great stuff.

1203
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 2: As always, Well, check in with you next week.

1204
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 9: Steve, Rian appreciate you and Steve looking forward to the

1205
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 9: next conspiracy.

1206
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Speaker 2: I got so many of them, so many of them.

1207
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 2: I get fed by people all the time with their

1208
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 2: conspiracy theories. Mark, thanks so much. There is Mark Mendina,

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Speaker 2: find out what is trending right now, Martin. We got

1228
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Speaker 2: another competitive playoff game going on right now.

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Speaker 8: Right Martin Vagini was just talking about the NBA playoffs

1230
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,919
Speaker 8: need to deliver, stars need to arrive. Well, I don't

1231
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 8: know about the stars of this matchup so far, but

1232
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 8: this game has been delivering fifty seven to fifty five

1233
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 8: the score at the half, the Knicks in the lead

1234
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 8: the home team in a three to six matchup on

1235
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 8: the Eastern Conference side of things. The leading score in

1236
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 8: this game Tobias Harris seven for ten from the floor,

1237
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 8: four five from three for twenty two points. Cade Cunningham

1238
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 8: struggling shooting the ball three for ten from the floor

1239
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 8: for six points, but he does have six assists. Jalen

1240
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 8: Brunton four for fifteen, one for three. He's got eleven

1241
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 8: points and three says, like I said, the Stars having

1242
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 8: a tough time here. Og Nanobi though filling it up.

1243
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 8: He's got nineteen first half points. Carn Anthony Towns with ten.

1244
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Speaker 8: Earlier in the day, we saw the Denver Nuggets beat

1245
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 8: the Los Angeles Clippers one twelve to one ten in overtime.

1246
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 8: The Nuggets with a second half comeback here being led

1247
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 8: by Jokic with twenty nine points, nine rebounds twelve assists

1248
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 8: for a double double. Aaron Gordon finished with twenty five,

1249
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 8: Jamal Murray with twenty one. Michael Porter Junior had a

1250
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 8: rough day, only shot four times, only played twenty six minutes,

1251
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 8: had three points. James Harden led the Clippers and scoring

1252
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 8: with thirty two points, Leonard twenty two, and Zubox had

1253
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 8: twenty one in the earlier game. Today, the Pacers pounded

1254
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 8: the Bucks one seventeen to ninety eight. Giannis had thirty

1255
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 8: six of those ninety eight points, but no other Buck

1256
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 8: had more.

1257
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 2: Than fifteen points.

1258
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Speaker 8: Pascal Siakam led the Pacers with twenty five, seven and

1259
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Speaker 8: seven and in the NHL with ten to fifteen lefts

1260
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 8: in the second period. The Saint Louis Blues have a

1261
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Speaker 8: three to two lead over the Winnipeg Jets. Steven Ryan,

1262
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Speaker 8: who back to you guys.

1263
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Speaker 2: Vibe busy day. Indeed, it's going to be a very

1264
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Speaker 2: busy time coming up here.

1265
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

1266
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 2: I just throw in the NFL raft on top of

1267
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 2: everything else, so crazy times. Love it, absolutely love every

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Speaker 2: minute Here on the Sports World Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harmy,

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Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins with you live from the tire rack dot

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Speaker 2: Com studios. Hey, don't forget out. The show podcast is

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Speaker 2: going up, So if you missed any of today's show,

1272
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 2: check out the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever

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Speaker 2: just give it five stars. Yeah I know again, Just

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Speaker 2: search Fox Sports Radio wherever we get your podcasts. You'll

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Speaker 2: see today's show posted right after we get off the air.

1277
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Speaker 2: So it's been a while rn since we did shows

1278
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 2: together and now you've been like this TV analyst for

1279
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 2: the Houston Rockets. How's that been for the last few years?

1280
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Speaker 3: Man, it's been a blessing in having a blast And

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Speaker 3: this is one of the funnest seasons that the Houston

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01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 3: Rockets have probably ever had because it's an organization not

1283
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 3: used to rebuilding. Okay, this is like a new word. Okay,

1284
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 3: not to just have greatness on the floor or to

1285
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 3: be competitive every year. And then you get the chance

1286
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 3: to watch these kids grow up post James Harden. So

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Speaker 3: it's been a blast. The team is ahead of schedule,

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01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 3: and again you can tell that it's a group that

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Speaker 3: really enjoys themselves. A coaching staff is that has done

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Speaker 3: an unbelievable job. And now you're looking at arguably the

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Speaker 3: most competitive season that the NBA has ever had from

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Speaker 3: top to bottom, those competitive Western Conference ever, and the

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Speaker 3: Houston Rockets are two seed. If you told me that,

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01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 3: if I told you Houston would be a two seed

1295
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 3: coming into the season, you tell me I was crazy.

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Speaker 3: But Imo Ludoka and those kids have just put it together,

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Speaker 3: one brick at a time.

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Speaker 2: Well and again we asked this question to Mark of

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Speaker 2: you know your top two seeds in the West. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma City won sixty eight games this year. Sixty eight games.

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Speaker 2: It's one of the greatest regular seasons in the history

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Speaker 2: of the NBA. Let me ask you a question here.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you have a vote, but if

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Speaker 2: you had to vote for MVP of the NBA, do

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01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 2: you go with Shay Gilges Alexander or you look at

1306
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 2: Jokicic and the fact that he's the first big ever

1307
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 2: to average a triple double, first player ever to actually

1308
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 2: finish top three in the league in points per game,

1309
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 2: rebounds per game, and assists per game. Which way would

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01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 2: you lean As far as.

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Speaker 3: MVP, Jokich is the best player, but Shay's the MVP

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Speaker 3: because of his team's success. Now forgive me, because MVP

1313
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 3: doesn't mean MVP. We moved the goalpost on it, and

1314
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Speaker 3: Jokich very well should be. But if we look at

1315
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Speaker 3: the history of the award, the best player did not

1316
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 3: always get it. Michael Jordan was the best player, didn't

1317
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 3: get it every year. Lebron James was the best player

1318
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 3: in the league unanimously, did not get it every year.

1319
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Speaker 3: And it's a team award along with a seasonal Kalaid

1320
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 3: and for Shay, Gilgess, Alexander and the jump that Okac

1321
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:08,959
Speaker 3: has made, the way that they've played, I mean they've

1322
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 3: been they've been on fire Man, So again, well deserved.

1323
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 3: It's going to go to Shay for those reasons. But

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Speaker 3: Jokic is the best player, but his team has not

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Speaker 3: had the success.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a problem with that.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: One thing I like with the NFL, and I agree

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01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 2: one hundred percent everything you're saying here, Ryan, But I

1330
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 2: like the NFL because they have the MVP Award and

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01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 2: then they have separate Offensive Player of the year, Defensive

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01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 2: Player of the Year, and so in those cases, you

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01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 2: reward someone that's got the numbers. You know, it could

1334
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 2: be a running back, it's been a wide receiver, it

1335
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 2: could be a quarterback if he's got ridiculously good numbers.

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Speaker 2: But MVP is a different award, And so I like

1337
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,799
Speaker 2: that because you're right, how do you define most valuable?

1338
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 2: Baseball's had this problem for years where sometimes they'll select

1339
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 2: a because he just has big numbers and they ignore

1340
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 2: where his team finished. And there are other times will

1341
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 2: pick a guy that maybe didn't have the numbers, but

1342
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 2: his team won, maybe they made an unexpected run early

1343
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 2: in the year. Again, these are regular season awards. By

1344
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 2: the way, I have no problem with these awards being

1345
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 2: a regular season because you do have separate postseason awards.

1346
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 2: I mean, what is more important ultimately when you look

1347
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 2: at a guy's resume, regular season MVP or NBA Finals MVP.

1348
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,679
Speaker 2: I mean, we just saw Chauncey Billups get into the

1349
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. You know, he was an NBA Finals MVP.

1350
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 2: He was never in the discussion for a regular season MVP.

1351
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,440
Speaker 2: So I don't have a problem with separating the two awards.

1352
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 2: But the idea, as you say of recognizing YO two.

1353
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 2: I mean, it was just ridiculous. Im Jordan's should have

1354
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 2: been MVP eight times, ten times, you know. And Lebron

1355
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 2: James he won four out of five years. He hasn't

1356
01:09:55,880 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 2: won an MVP award in ten years, ten years. It's

1357
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 2: just I don't know, just it is frustrating. But like

1358
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 2: you say, usually goes to the best player on whatever

1359
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 2: team had the best record in the regular season.

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Speaker 3: I love what you just said though about the NBA

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01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 3: adding awards. Yeah, and I don't know how you feel

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01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 3: about this, but you know, a couple of times I

1363
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,919
Speaker 3: almost feel like the Defensive Player of the Year award

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01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 3: is almost that extra award. And some were saying and

1365
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 3: if you look at the numbers and it comes with

1366
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 3: the name. Also, because it's defensive player is pretty subjective.

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01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 3: You can play unbelievable defense, Steve and not guess that,

1368
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 3: or you can be okay and your teammates can help

1369
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 3: you out. And it's one that the players know. Other

1370
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,799
Speaker 3: than that, it's kind of the way that it's pushed

1371
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 3: onto you like a narrative. For instance, Mark gasol got

1372
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 3: I love Mark, former teammate of mine, and we searched

1373
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 3: him out and pick and roll every time. Rudy Gobert

1374
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 3: has won it multiple times because you can see the

1375
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 3: analytics when he can test shots are the off the

1376
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 3: but he's a great shot contester. But he's a guy

1377
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 3: in the playoffs or in games you pick on him.

1378
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 3: Teams have picked on Rudy Gobert and had success. Not

1379
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 3: to say that he's not really good defensively, but there

1380
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 3: are some holes you know that you could argue that

1381
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 3: are in his game. But he's an excellent shot blocker

1382
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 3: in a scheme. So I almost feel like the Defensive

1383
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 3: Player of the Year is one subjective and that's one

1384
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,600
Speaker 3: that you know, some people are saying Shay should have that,

1385
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 3: but they also don't realize lou Dort cards the other

1386
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 3: team's best defender. But his numbers are pretty ridiculous on

1387
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 3: the defensive end because you know, he's he's a kind

1388
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:41,639
Speaker 3: of he's a poor man shot blocker, Like he blocks

1389
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 3: a lot of shots, he gets steals. He makes an

1390
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 3: impact defensively too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I get I get frustrated with Defensive

1392
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,640
Speaker 2: Player of the Year. I was excited a couple of

1393
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 2: years ago that Marcus Smart won it. You know, it

1394
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 2: usually goes to a center. You know, it seems to

1395
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 2: be but the game has changed so drumatically, you know,

1396
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 2: just following up what you know we were talking about,

1397
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 2: you know, the criticism that the commissioner Adam Silver's had

1398
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 2: to the media for all the negative coverage. I mean,

1399
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 2: you're you're around this sport now full season. You know,

1400
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 2: as an analyst, you're covering NBA basketball all the way

1401
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 2: through the season, so you've seen a lot of it

1402
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 2: over the years along with your playing years. Do you

1403
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 2: feel the NBA has got a pr problem? Is it

1404
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 2: a style of play problem? Is it a commitment from

1405
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 2: the players to give their all night in and night out.

1406
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 2: Or is this completely overblown by certain members of the

1407
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 2: media that the NBA is in a crisis right now?

1408
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 3: Steve, there's a little bit of truth in every lie.

1409
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 3: I'm gonna start with that. And Steve, you know this.

1410
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 3: You know from your experience in the media that had

1411
01:12:55,479 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 3: I put this, lukewarm doesn't sell tickets, right, Lukewarm doesn't

1412
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 3: put butts in seats. Polarizing figures do that. Okay, controversy

1413
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 3: does that. And right now the NBA Twitter is probably

1414
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 3: one of the most toxic things you can see on

1415
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 3: the planet right now, and that's where the popularity is.

1416
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 3: And our role players, you know by name. When you

1417
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 3: get to an NFL team, name the you know, name

1418
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 3: the third string quarterback, name the backup, name the offensive lineman.

1419
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 3: If this were the NFL, our offensive lineman can hit

1420
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 3: the front page. They got notoriety, they got you know,

1421
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 3: all the you know, the the accolades. You know, they're known,

1422
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 3: they are prestigious figures. So the popularity of the NBA

1423
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 3: comes within the controversy, but it also in that same

1424
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 3: tokens the no lie It hurts the NBA because you

1425
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 3: have people going out and players going out, and there's

1426
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 3: a difference. It's the goalpost moves we talked earlier about,

1427
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 3: you know, MVP movie. The goal post moves where someone

1428
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:21,680
Speaker 3: will be wrong or a little too critical or you know,

1429
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 3: maybe you know, disrespectful of a player outside of the

1430
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 3: realm of what you might think is okay, and it

1431
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 3: can actually hurt a player's money or popularity, or the

1432
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 3: narrative may not be properly explained. And then you see

1433
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 3: a bit of a it's a it's a pissing popularity

1434
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 3: context for kid my language, Steve, But you get a

1435
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 3: lot of that and that hurts the game. And we're

1436
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 3: seeing it far, far too much in sports. Excuse me

1437
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:51,560
Speaker 3: in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think one hundred percent. You need villains, you

1439
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 2: need heroes. You know, when you think of the classic

1440
01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 2: Lakers Celtic matchup in the eighties, it had every, it

1441
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 2: had everything. You look at this Celtics team, I'll be

1442
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 2: I'll be honestly, as great a player as he is,

1443
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum is boring. He's a boring player. You know,

1444
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 2: he's a he's an outstanding guy, but he doesn't move

1445
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 2: the needle. And so that's that's a.

1446
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 3: Big part of air it air that he gets hurt

1447
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 3: because of that.

1448
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know it just it's again, why did

1449
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:29,520
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark and Angel Rees move the needle for wounds basketball?

1450
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 2: Because you know, Agean Rees was brilliant, she understood there's

1451
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 2: a ying to the yang here, I'm gonna I'm gonna

1452
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 2: play this up. And all of a sudden, they're getting

1453
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 2: all this attention and Jason Tatum just being a great

1454
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 2: player isn't enough. You need to have some kind of edge,

1455
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 2: and that's what's missing right now. From the NBA. All right,

1456
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 2: coming up on the other side, we'll get Ryan's pick

1457
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 2: which teams will move on to the next round of

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harvey, Ryan Hollins.

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Speaker 2: Here Fox Sports Saturday, were coming live from the tyraq

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Speaker 2: dot com studios. I want to thank our crew today.

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01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 2: Martin doing a trend of job on updates. It's getting

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01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 2: ready for his show coming up here. Mary Mack brilliant

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Speaker 2: on the board as usual in our esteemed rising star producer,

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01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 2: Ian doing well. Ian, How disappointed were you that Houston

1465
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 2: lost that championship game in the NCA tournament. Weren't you

1466
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:25,600
Speaker 2: writing Houston all the way to the championship?

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01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 10: I was, But but our guy Scott Shapiro, shout out Scott.

1468
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 10: He actually had to crush my dreams going into it

1469
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 10: because it turned out I didn't have a chance going

1470
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Speaker 10: into the game because Frostburg had clinched it.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, Justin and l Rag another guy that started

1472
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 2: off with me, the great Justin Prosper. All right, Ryan,

1473
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 2: let's talk about ultimately who's going to move on into

1474
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 2: the second round of the playoffs. Let's start with the

1475
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:52,680
Speaker 2: series that started today. Obviously, the way the Pacers just

1476
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:54,759
Speaker 2: beat up on the Bucks. Are they going to continue

1477
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 2: that or couldn't the Bucks come back to win this series?

1478
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Speaker 3: I really like the Pace and Steve. I know we

1479
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 3: didn't talk, but they were one of the teams that

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01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 3: I had and I was amazed nobody was looking at

1481
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 3: and they are probably one of the most disrespected teams Steve.

1482
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 3: People forget they played in the Eastern Conference Finals last season.

1483
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 2: Yeah they did. Nobody remembers that.

1484
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 3: I'm nobody.

1485
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 2: Nobody remembers that.

1486
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 2: If they look like they did today, that's going to

1488
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:29,600
Speaker 2: be a short series. How about the Clips and the Nuggets.

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Speaker 3: I'm torn there. Nikola jokicch is just something special, But

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna laying with the Clippers because there's controversy with

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Speaker 3: the Nuggets. The Nuggets haven't been great defensively. This is

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Speaker 3: really hard for me to do, but I think I

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01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 3: just think it's too much to overcome. You fire coach

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01:17:54,840 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 3: right before the playoffs and you're you're in a situations

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01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 3: looking around and when things get tighter as the series

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01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 3: goes on goes on, you don't have that backbone that

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Speaker 3: you had in Mike Malone. And not to say that

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Speaker 3: you couldn't have that, uh in Adelman. But at the

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Speaker 3: end of the day, when you do it in the

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Speaker 3: middle of the season, you gotta give them a better

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Speaker 3: shot than that. You got to give the players a

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01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,679
Speaker 3: better shot. And I think the Clippers just got good

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01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 3: mojo around them. They're peeking at the right time. As

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01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 3: long as nothing unforeseen happens with Kawhi Leonard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a whole point. As long as Kawhi

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Speaker 2: can stay in there, I agree with you. I like

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Speaker 2: the clips there.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 2: How about this game right now, Nicks and Pistons. Who's

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01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 2: going to win this series?

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Speaker 3: I like the Pistons. Man wowingham is box Office New

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01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 3: York has struggled against all the best teams. They go

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01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 3: check their record. They have struggled, and I don't trust

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01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 3: their depth. And there's something hungry and physical and tough

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01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 3: about these Pistons that I think this is poisoned.

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Speaker 2: Right upset wo Okay, Lakers te Wolves, I think you're

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01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 2: already on the record on that one. All right, the series,

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Speaker 2: let's start tomorrow and I'll go with your series last.

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01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 2: Let's go to the Grizzlyes Thunder series.

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Speaker 3: I like the thunder. You're you're not gonna out Athletic.

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Speaker 3: Uh them, You're not gonna out athletic. Okay, see they

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Speaker 3: got too much good good rolling through and shaking match

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Speaker 3: whatever joh does on that end.

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Speaker 2: How about that Ja Moran follow up dunk yesterday? I

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Speaker 2: thought that was God.

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Speaker 3: That was just sick about when he threw it off

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Speaker 3: the backboard to himself the game before.

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Speaker 2: I thought he had a bad ankle. Magic Celtics should

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01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 2: be a walkover, I would imagine there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Steve, you never did that on a bad ankle.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Heat calves can heat give the Calves any trouble there.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna give them some trouble. Oh dang. You know what.

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Speaker 2: By the way they years, they hear they say they

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Speaker 2: made it.

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Speaker 3: To the NBA, they have the heat upset them. I'm

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Speaker 3: doing it out right now. The heat up set.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, that would be the ultimate.

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Speaker 5: That would be the ultimate.

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01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 2: And finally, your Rockets taking on the Warriors. Who's going

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Speaker 2: to win that series?

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Speaker 3: I go Rockets. They're too physical, too deep, too young,

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01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 3: and eMate Ludoka is going to put the troops in

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Speaker 3: the right spot.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Well, hopefully we're going to get a very entertaining

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Speaker 2: NBA playoff run Ryan, great job, as Zoway's great to

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Speaker 2: catch up with you, ladies and gentlemen. Keep it right here.

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Speaker 2: Mare coming up on Fox Sports Radio