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This shit is pre recorded, it's 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:25.800 not live. So let's just fucking go, yo, Bootleg Head podcast. 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:29.480 We have got the very very legendary, very very talented. 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:32.360 Oh geez, Snow, Snow, the product is here. Legend gentlemen, 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:35.480 thank you, thank you so much. Welcome to the podcast. 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:39.480 You've been killing shit during the quarantine. I was talking 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:41.680 to you. I was like, man, your podcast is going crazy. 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:45.079 You're independent much as yours. No, I'm trying to learn 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:47.520 from you. And yes, you've seen me. You've it's been 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:50.840 a long journey between us. Huh yeah. I think the 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.560 first time we ever met was at south By Southwest 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:56.040 and you had a bit of a grudge against me. 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:59.720 Because the interview. The interview never came out. Yeah, an 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:02.840 interview never came out. I don't know what happened. I 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.359 was drunk at south By interviewing people. I think it 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:09.639 was twenty thirteen. Yeah, and and yeah, I know that 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:11.840 I was just salty because that happened to me with 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.520 a few different people. It's way even, I told you, 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:17.160 And I was just like, yo, I feel like everybody 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.720 just doesn't want a Mexican girl to fucking say her shit. 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:22.920 But no, I understand as someone who's married to a 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.160 Mexican woman and who has had a child with another 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:28.600 Mexican woman. Okay, I love Mexican women. You just don't 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:32.880 want to hear us talk. All I do is I'm 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.960 just kidding. I'm just kidding, Na. But obviously, you know 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.680 you've had a long journey, and you know now that 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:43.400 you're independent, you got no management. You had a stint 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:50.040 with like Atlantic Records that was probably less than fulfilling. Yeah. Yeah, 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:52.080 what made you like just decide to just go all 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:55.040 in on just fully independence and getting rid of management 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:58.160 all that? Because even people are independent usually have management. Yeah, 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:04.760 I I feel like, huh, where do I start. I'm 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:07.200 a very accountable person, like if I fuck up, like 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:09.160 I'll tell you and like I'll you know what I mean. 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:11.040 Like I just was raised like that. My dad was 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.720 a very macho like Mexican man that was just like 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:15.720 you know, my word is my bond and all the shit. 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:17.680 So like he really was like you're and I was 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:19.680 a tomboy, so like he really was like you're gonna 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:21.679 be like that, Like I don't care that you're a girl. 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.640 You better you know always, so I always have been accountable. 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:28.480 So whenever I realized that this industry has a lot 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:30.839 of people that are not accountable or like, you know, 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:33.520 whenever mistakes happen, if people just own up to him, 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:36.239 that's cool. But whenever it starts being finger pointing and whatever, 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:37.760 when you got too many chefs in the kitchen, what 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.600 happens is there's way more people to point the fingers. 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:42.480 So now you start kind of getting fucked up. And 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:44.279 I think Dave Chappelle said this in an interview, like 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:46.520 if you feeling like people want you to fucking go crazy, 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:48.440 like you'd be like yo, like are y'all doing this 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:50.960 on purpose? Like I can't tell what's going on? So 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:54.320 I needed to distance myself from everything and everyone and 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:56.280 be like, okay, like let me reset and make sure 0:04:56.320 --> 0:05:00.080 I'm not tripping because I have fans, I do, go 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.560 on tour. I work my fucking ass off. I get 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:04.440 up at seven in the morning, I go to sleep 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:07.040 at you know, midnight. I'm recording, or I'm vlogging, or 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:09.360 I'm shooting videos, or I'm editing or I'm I'm doing 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:11.400 all these things. I'm like, no way you could tell 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:14.000 me it's all on me, you know what I mean. 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:15.640 But I feel like people would make me feel like 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:17.159 it was all on me. So I was like, all right, bet, 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:18.680 like let's just do it and if I take my 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:20.680 l then I'll take my l proudly and if I win, 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:24.760 then I'll win. And lucky for me, I just valued 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:27.440 being happy and I'm very happy right now. So how 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:30.320 long ago did that like officially like come into like 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:31.760 like how long did you get out of the Atlantic 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:34.919 situation and become fully like Indie from everything. It's gonna 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:36.520 be two years, I think, like a year and a 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:39.320 half or something like that. I think I'm very bad 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:43.200 with time. But like, so what if you noticed, like 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:46.359 did you notice that it wasn't like you weren't crazy, 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.320 especially yeah and well, and then it took it took 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:52.120 a while to fire my earth like to get separate 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:55.000 ways with my management. I had done it before with 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.720 another manager that it just kind of wasn't working. I 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:02.520 just felt like, you know, in this industry, as an artist, 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.479 I understand the artists that want to be industry plants 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:07.480 so bad. I've seen people that are just like they 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:10.080 want everything for them. They want it. They're just like, 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:11.920 you know, please like pull the all these favors, and 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:13.800 I want to feature, and I wanna, you know, go 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:16.120 there and and and you know, suck that guy's dig 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:17.799 and then this guy's dig, and then we're gonna fucking 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.120 collab and and I'm gonna take all your fan base. 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.000 And It's like I've never been that type, right, So 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:24.159 I'm like, I don't see why I need to do 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.200 it that way. If I'm the type like I'll earn 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:28.160 my fan base one at a time, like I'll drop 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.640 my own videos. I'm not gonna be begging people for 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:34.279 features like let's just you know. So to me, the 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:36.560 biggest thing I feel like I noticed was just peace 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:40.400 of mind, was just realizing that if you're an artist 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:42.560 you're you're a small business, So why don't you just 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:44.920 scale that shit? You know what I mean? Like, rather 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:47.000 than having a thousand fans, have two thousand and now 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.159 three thousand and now four thousand, and the same way 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:51.640 that if you own a fucking tire shop or a 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:55.200 donut shop, like you're gonna do marketing, You're gonna fucking 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.000 you know, get up and work every day. Like it's 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:59.800 the same fucking shit. I just I don't see why. 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:02.320 I don't see why I should be treated any different. 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:03.720 And when I when I treated it like that and 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:06.200 I started actually seeing money, I was like, Yo, if 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.440 I could feed my family and I can employ my family, 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:10.320 and I could make sure that I spend time with 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:13.080 my kid and my girl and my friends and my family, 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:14.680 like the fuck that is the dream, you know? Like 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:16.360 what am I really reaching for? Like I want to 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:18.560 be on Rolling Stone? Like I don't give a fuck. Yes, 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.480 I always tell people, I'm like, hey, like, you know, 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.560 you could fuck buying followers. You would rather have a 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:28.200 thousand people following you that are actually that will give 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:31.160 you money, that will support whatever you're doing, then having 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:34.040 like one hundred thousand of this motherfuckers who are following 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.800 you for the wrong reasons. Yeah, oh yeah, and I've 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:39.400 seen that too, Like I'll be seeing people stunting with 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.560 their numbers and it's like brother fake, Like we all 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:43.520 see it, like it's fake, even if they're fake. It's like, 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:46.800 how can you have a million followers but you put 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:48.920 out an album and it sells like four thousand copies? 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.840 Like what's the point then? Or even as simple as 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:53.560 like you have all these followers, you have like one 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:55.840 hundred thousand followers, but you get like this many likes 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:57.840 or whatever it is like or they're all like fucking 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:00.760 Russian bots. Is like ugh, like it's the worst waste 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:02.640 of money. I always tell people like, if you're gonna 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:05.320 spend money on followers, spend money on like shit that 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:09.280 like actually translate to real people fucking with you, even 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:11.000 if it's ten of them, like you know what I'm saying, 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:13.200 Like or even that, like the type of fan base 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:15.800 you get by having inflated numbers, Like let's say let's 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:18.080 say somebody goes and sees your page and goes, hm, 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:19.800 he has a lot of followers. Let me like, let 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.960 me follow up, Like those are like fly by Night followers. 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:24.680 Those aren't really the ones that are gonna like love 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:26.480 you for you and be with you for the struggle, 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:28.120 and you know what I mean. Like so to me, 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.480 I don't know. I think just maturity kind of has 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:34.600 made me realize, like I want to fucking be happy. 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:38.000 Like I you know, I had a kid that I 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.520 would have to leave for two month tours and not 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:42.200 see him, you know, And it's like as a mom, 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:44.600 you know, like I was fucking crying in my hotel room, 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:46.640 Like all I wanted to do was like be with him. 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:49.000 So it's like, why would I put myself through all 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:52.000 that ten He's ten, now, Yeah, why would I put 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:54.120 myself through all that shit and not be able to 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:55.920 spend the time I want with him? So it's like 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:57.760 I just value life, you know what I mean. We're 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.440 all gonna fucking die at some point, might as well, yeah, 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:04.040 account you know, when it comes to I feel like 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:08.360 there's no shortcut to getting the type of filowing you 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:12.920 have because you have fans who like are fully engaged 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.440 in your life and they're fully invested in you as 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:17.439 like a person. So if you drop a T shirt 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:19.719 or you put out a new record or whatever, like 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:21.600 they're there you go on tour like a lot of 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:24.080 people who have way more followers than you can't tour 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.559 like you, Yeah, why give a fuck? You know what 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:28.280 I mean. I think that's the biggest thing is like 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:30.920 I actually care about these human beings. Like there's been 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:32.719 times when I can put up the ticket price or 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:34.839 I can you know, I've had these conversations with like 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:36.520 industry people like well, why don't you just do this 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:38.360 or charge more for this or whatever? And I'm like, bro, 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:40.000 you gotta know what type of fans I have. Like 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:43.120 I have fans that you know, single moms or kids 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.040 you know that come from parents you know their parents 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:47.920 are immigrants or whatever. Like you can't just be like, oh, bet, 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:49.640 pay one hundred and fifty now for my ticket just 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.720 because I want to want to. Yeah, Like, no, that's 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.520 not that's fucking scummy. And I think that's one thing 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.080 that goes along way for people, you know, And and 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:00.520 there's both type of artists you could be that you 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:02.960 can be all about the cloud and you can be popping, 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:04.920 and that's cool if that's what you want with your life, 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:08.800 not knocking you at all. Me personally, I don't feel 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.600 good about that. And I can't live a life where 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.080 I just like feel shitty about myself. Well, also, you 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:16.760 like physically see your fans, like you're like, like you 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.199 gotta see these people on tour. Yeah, I'm on stage 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:20.600 and I'm like staring at them, and I'm like, damn, 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:23.400 I feel bad. Like no, like, but there is scummy 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:25.920 people in this industry. That's why there's motherfuckers that gotta 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:27.920 be high. They gotta stay high. Like you done did 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.520 so much scummy shit in your life. You gotta stay 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:32.280 high and fucking be able to live with yourself. And 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:35.120 it's like, goddamn, yeah, it's crazy. I'm not talking about weed, 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:36.599 by the way. I'm just talking about people that just 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:39.439 got other shit. Yeh See, people just go I'm fucked off. 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:42.760 You're like, damn, bro, Like just I think I think 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:45.160 we had. I would say this, like the dark age 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:47.680 of music that I've ever been involved in was like 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:51.200 two thousand and late twenty sixteen to like twenty eighteen 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:55.400 was probably the worst I've ever seen hip hop in 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:59.080 terms of what the industry would support, right, It'd be 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:03.200 like like literal people getting major record deals based on 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:08.040 antics on Instagram, not based on anything else, just based 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:12.680 on numbers and bullshit. Yeah, and like I think we've 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:15.080 started to kind of get like turn a corner on 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:17.200 that era. Yeah, because it was like, you know, the 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:20.520 little pumps and the six nines and yeah, and then 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:24.520 there was you know, just Instagram pranksters getting record deals, 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:28.959 which is like with me feeling bad for that, I 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.560 don't know. I'm very momish, you know. So it's like 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:34.960 I felt bad because those people got to live with 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:38.840 those with with those like what comes with that? You 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:40.360 feel like a lot of there was a lot of 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:43.079 a lot of major label people or you know, industry 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:44.600 people that are just like, all right, bet I'm gonna 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:47.080 take this kid and they're gonna have a baby. Was 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.280 like a perfect example. I was like, how did this 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:51.200 bitch get a record deal? I feel like here's the 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:52.839 thing though, And I might disagree with you on that 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.280 only because I feel like bad baby actually worked hard 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:58.520 at rapping. Like I feel like she you really put 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:01.520 all right, but she initially I feel like she initially 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.480 got her deal. I'm not I don't she had some 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.880 ship that wasn't terrible. The delivery matters because there's a 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:11.600 lot of rappers that are getting written Cardi B's delivery 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.640 is crazy. You're trying to get a headline out of 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:16.600 no no no no no no no. You don't want 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:18.800 to say nothing. I'm being honest, Like Cardi B don't 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:22.280 do me one of my cardib is one of my 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:24.160 favorite artists. I love Cardi B. There's like she really 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:25.960 can't do no wrong in my book. But like you said, 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:28.160 like I don't give a fuck if someone writes for her, 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.760 I don't carer sh it is fire. I just think 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:34.640 the Bad Baby deal initially happened, and I'm not even 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:36.240 mad at some of this ship she ended up putting out, 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:40.720 but she got signed based on just her being a 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:44.680 meme and then she you know, she committed to actually 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:48.079 you know, the craft are trying to like you know 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:49.400 what I mean, Like, I'm not even mad at Bad 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:51.320 Baby as much as I'm mad at some other people, 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:56.120 but like she got signed initially because she was a meme. 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:58.760 Now she ran with that and she actually took it 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:00.640 serious and she still is trying to take a serious 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:02.400 So you know, I'm not trying to throw the shade air. 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:04.360 But that was like an example of like she got 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:07.000 signed because of some ig shit, but I hit her 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:09.120 up when when when she got signed and I was like, yo, 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:10.680 on some real shit because I was at Atlantic at 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:12.240 the time, and I was like, on some real shit, 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:14.760 like good shit, you know, because I remember how much 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:16.480 people were shitting on her on the internet, and I 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.920 was like, bro, as a fifteen year old girl to 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:22.280 get I don't think I could have emotionally handled some 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:24.160 of the shit that this girl handled, feel me, So 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:25.880 you got to give some kids some props of like, 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:28.640 god damn, you sat there and took that and turned 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:30.720 it into something and you got an opportunity you took 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:33.400 run with it, you know what I mean. And I 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:35.840 think I think that's what because my girl was saying 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:37.720 something about there's this TikToker that you know, had a 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:39.760 hard life or whatever, and then she just killed herself, 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:41.839 and I'm just like, you know, it's like you got 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:44.560 to understand that these kids end up having to deal 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:46.440 with all this shit and all this hay, like they're 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:48.200 not growing up how like we did, you know, back 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.560 in like with MySpace or whatever. It's like it wasn't 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:53.600 as bad as now nowadays. Motherfucker's like on Twitter or 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:55.880 you know, Instagram, like you really can get fun you 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:59.559 see those comments and you start comparing yourself to whatever 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:03.120 you see. Yeah, I can't even imagine. Like, you know, 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:06.120 I got a niece who is just on her phone NonStop. 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:08.880 I could see it with my own eyes. That'd be 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:12.360 fucking with her, Like, yeah, what what's popping on Instagram? 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:16.000 What is considered pretty on Instagram? Yeah? And then comments 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:18.439 like these motherfuckers are like, we've never had to deal 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.480 with that as kids. Yeah, And I don't know, I 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:23.080 think you and I might be close in age. I'm 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:26.600 thirty three. Yeah. I think the most I ever dealt 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:29.920 with was like like MySpace, and that was when I 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:32.840 was like eighteen. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's one of 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:36.400 them things where you know, society, you know what I mean. 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.560 And it's like now it's getting to a point where 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:42.200 like whether you're traveling, politics, hip hop, sports, fucking business 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:45.560 in general, like you know, Fortune five hundred companies, like 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:47.920 there's a real responsibility of being a good human being 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.400 because we are on the same fucking moving rock and 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:53.400 we're about to fuck this bitch up. Also like also 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:56.120 going down because you're fucking idiot ass made some stupid 0:14:56.160 --> 0:15:00.920 ass decisions, and also like be a good person because 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.160 now there's a record of you being a piece of 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:06.720 shit on the Internet forever. Okay, So I don't like 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:09.640 cancel culture as like that much. But also I don't 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:11.960 like the cancel cancel culture people that are like, you 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:14.800 shouldn't have repercussions for what you've said you should there 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:16.480 should be something that you have to deal with for 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:18.480 being a shitty person, Like there should be a record 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:23.160 there of like mad races before. Like I certainly think that, 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:25.720 you know, the cancel like, there's like a with anything, right, 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:27.840 there's like a middle ground where it's like I'm kind 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:29.200 of on the same wavelength as you. I'm like, Yo, 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:32.080 there's people that literally deserve to get canceled, and then 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:34.320 there's other shit that's like what are we doing here? Yeah, 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:37.840 like come on, guys, yeah, you know what I'm saying. 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:41.040 It's like, I guess it's just kind of is you know. 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:42.720 It's the same thing with like the me too shit. 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.600 It's like there's situations for like, yeah, this shit is great, 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:48.680 and then there's other situations where there's people getting called 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:51.000 out with no proof and then their life is ruined. 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:53.680 So it's like there's got to be a balance, And 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:55.360 I think with the cancel culture. Shit, that's like a 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:59.760 you know, yeah, there's people getting canceled, and I'm like, bro, 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.120 it's a stretch. Yeah. I feel like there's people that 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:04.320 just sit on Twitter all day just waiting to fucking 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:07.640 just hop on someone. Yeah, I've even gotten there, like 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:09.640 and you know me, for a long time, I've been 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:13.680 this Mexican wave waving the flag my people, you know, 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.200 and then I'll get sometimes like Chikana's coming at me 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.400 like blah blah, like over semantics, you know, like something 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:21.760 fucking small, and then it's just like could never be me. 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.120 I'm like, bitch, it could never be you. This has 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:27.560 been on a decade of me doing what you now 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:29.880 see as like a hot point or like a fucking 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:33.960 and now you want to say something and you want 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:36.080 to come at me like, no, bitch, there's a fucking 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:38.400 record that bitch has been doing this for a long time. 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:42.160 And I just feel like there is this weird sense 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:45.360 of entitlement with people that are just like like they 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:47.720 could do it better, but unless you're actually doing it, 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:50.120 like you gotta leave room for error for people just 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:54.280 imagine like wanting to like like come off like you're 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.320 doing right, but you're putting the effort that you could 0:16:56.320 --> 0:17:00.560 be putting into whatever that is, into pointing out someone else. 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:03.040 Like you said, semantics. Really a lot of this cancer 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:05.520 culture shit is like semantics. It's like what are we 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:09.080 really tripping over? Like yeah, twelve year old tweets, Yeah, 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.199 you know what I'm saying, like like again or like 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:14.639 or like a little like one degree of like being 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.040 like you know, one little fact was wrong as opposed 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:19.920 to like the big rusher of like brouh, Like I'm 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:21.720 a fucking human being, you know what I'm saying, Like 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:25.840 I'm allowed to yah misspeak or yeah, it's it's pretty crazy. 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:27.760 But at the same time, isn't it so crazy that 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:29.680 it's kind of funny? Like don't you sometimes sit back, 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:31.360 Like sometimes I all look at the internet like, bro, 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:36.200 this is so dumb. Like I've literally been in some conversations, 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:38.640 mind you important ones when like a room and I'll 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:40.000 literally be sitting there and I'll be like, I'm not 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:41.920 even gonna argue with this person who thinks they're on 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:43.879 their soapbox right now, because I'm like, what am I 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:45.480 gonna get out of this? Like we're gonna fucking argue, 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.800 just gonna get worked up, you're dumb, and that's it. 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.320 And I think that's I think the first couple of 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:54.080 years of Trump being president, I was like super like 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:56.879 stressed and engaged with people on the internet, even like 0:17:56.920 --> 0:17:59.680 some of my own cousins. And then the last couple 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:02.879