1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What's up, everybody, 2 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire, Tuesday, April twenty seven, 3 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: close to the draft. We got forty eight hours to go, 4 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: very geeked for it. Monday's pod got a lot of 5 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: positive and negative reaction. Clearly. I don't know if Rob 6 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: G saw this on his mentions on social media, but man, 7 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: a lot of Mac Jones defenders out there. I had 8 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: no idea there were that many. Um or or it's 9 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: you know the in Kyle Shanahan, we trust crowd, or 10 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: if Kyle wants this, let's do it. Kyle Shanahan says, jump, 11 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: I say how high? Like that's the vibe I got. 12 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: People are just like all in there, like, oh, Jimmy G. 13 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: You know the young kids now and I noticed my 14 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: son and his friends do it when they're playing video games. 15 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: Everything is just trash, you know. Um oh, that guy's trash. 16 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: His game is trash, and it's like harsh and all 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,279 Speaker 1: these guys on social media, Jimmy G is trash. Jimmy 18 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: G Is asked, I'm like, what are you talking about. 19 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: Jimmy G was making twenty eight million dollars a year 20 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: playing quarterback in the NFL and went to the Super Bowl. 21 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: When he's healthy his record, I believe in San Franz 22 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: twenty four and eight when he's healthy as a starter. 23 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: The only problem is he's not really that healthy. Um. 24 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: But I'm just I was stunned at the Jimmy G reaction. 25 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: I thought more people would be in agreement with me, 26 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: but such is life. All right. We will do a 27 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: bit on the draft possibly later. The Scolio Jones stuff 28 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: moderately interesting, but I think we have to start the 29 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: podcast today with perhaps the biggest story in the n 30 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: b A And you know, we like try to start 31 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: some brush fires over here. UM and rob G and 32 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: I are always spit bawling most mostly throughout the day 33 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: over text what do you think? What about this? And 34 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: I'm usually like, oh, I got nothing, man, don't see anything, 35 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: and I'm like disappointed that there's nothing huge, and then 36 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: Rob G coming in firing on all cylinders. Oh well, 37 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: Chris Paul, did you see what he did to the 38 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: next last night? Yeah, he wanted at twenty points. And 39 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: then Rob G's like, yeah, he's first team All NBA 40 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: for me, And that's what I get. My stories to 41 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: pop up with Rob g is peddling that kind of garbage. Listen, 42 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm probably a little lower on everybody than Chris Paul, 43 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: mostly because of his history of postseason failures and injuries. 44 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: And I know you can't blame the injuries on Chris Paul. 45 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: They just happened. Injuries happen everybody in the playoffs. It 46 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: stinks that being said, there is a narrative that Chris 47 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: Paul tries so freaking hard in the regular season. Every 48 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: game means so much to him. He exerts so much 49 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: energy in the regular season in this marathon eight two 50 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: games sprint, yes, seventy two this season, that Chris Paul 51 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: tries so much harder than the best of the stars 52 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: around the league that his teams instantly rise to the top. 53 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: We saw it when he went to the Clippers. We 54 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: saw it when he went to Houston, We saw it 55 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: when he went to Okay. See. Yes, they were a 56 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: very good regular season team last year, and we're seeing 57 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: it again this year in Phoenix. It's it's undeniable. Chris 58 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 1: Paul is a great point guard. Now you want to 59 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: get interesting, you say, Okay, he's amazing. Where does Chris 60 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: Paul rank all time among all all time point guards 61 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: because he does never ring, he's never been to the finals. 62 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: But man, is he a hell of good regular season player. 63 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: Four times All NBA First Team, four times All NBA 64 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: Second Team, seven time All NBA First Team defense. You 65 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: know that's not quite Kobe numbers, but it's up there, 66 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: especially for a point guard in a league where a 67 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: lot of point guards don't defend or even try to. 68 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: And I guess I know everybody loves to stay well, 69 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: Steph Curry isn't a good defender, and they gotta hide 70 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: him and teams attack him and blah blah blah blah blah. 71 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: Fair enough, Steph Curry is absolutely eviscerated Chris Paul head 72 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: to head. I don't want to hear anything about it. Um, 73 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: they're not in the same sentence. Chris Paul is a great, 74 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: great player. He's not on the level of of Steph 75 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: Curry as a scorer, I don't think as a leader. 76 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: Because if you remember, and this matters, people want to 77 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: go play with Steph Curry. Kevin Durant wanted to go 78 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: to Golden State to play with Curry. UM. Just a 79 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: quick reminder, Chris Paul got in numerous altercations with Blake 80 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: Griffin and apparently they still don't like each other. Um, 81 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,799 Speaker 1: Chris Paul got in a famous beef with James Harden. 82 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: Chris Paul has going head to head with Curry and 83 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: they apparently don't like each other. I know they give 84 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: each other shout outs on social media. I get it. 85 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: Heat of the moment is different. But Chris Paul is 86 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: one of these guys. Man, you love to be on 87 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: the team with him. I love it until he starts 88 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: writing you hard and he's just way too hard on 89 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: everybody because he acts like Lebron. You don't win like Lebron. 90 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: You know he's in that banana boat crew, Dwyane Wade, Uh, Carmelo, Anthony, 91 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: Chris Paul Like it's okay to ride teammates the way 92 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: Lebron does and get on their case and and be 93 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: yell and be the leader. I get that, but you 94 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: have to be awesome to do that. And Chris Paul 95 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: regular season awesome. I haven't seen it in the playoffs, 96 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 1: and I know there's been injuries. Um, obviously, the Rockets 97 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: won against that loaded Warriors team with Katie. That will 98 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: go down as one of the closest toughest defeats of 99 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,559 Speaker 1: Chris Paul's career. They go up three too, he show 100 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: boats in Curry's face hitting a late three, and then 101 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: like a minute later, pulls his hamstring and doesn't get 102 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: to play in Game six and seven. The basketball gods 103 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: would not allow it. That being said, Chris Paul still 104 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: look very, very, very good player. I don't think you 105 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: can put him above of obviously Magic Curry, Isaiah Thomas, 106 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: um Oscar Robertson. You know, some people call him a 107 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: combo guard. I think Iverson's more of a combo and 108 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: a two. John Stockton is the interesting one. Jason Kidd 109 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: is interesting. So rob G, I'm gonna bring you in 110 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: before we break down your nonsense about Chris Paul First 111 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: Team All NBA. Where are you on Chris Paul versus 112 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: a John Stockton and Jason Kidd in the pantheon of 113 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: great point guards? I think that Chris Paul is definitely 114 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: a notch above Jason Kidd um John Stockton. It's a 115 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: tougher case to make because he played with one team 116 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: his whole career and he formed arguably the most devastating 117 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: scoring duo in NBA history, you know, with him and 118 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: Crome alone, So that's a tougher case to make. And 119 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: John Stockton, I know, people don't like to admit it, 120 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 1: or maybe they're not aware because he's a six ft 121 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: and think unathletic white guy. But he was an incredible 122 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: basketball player and he was a great defender. So that 123 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: one's a little bit tough, right, have to really dive 124 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: deep into the numbers. And then again, you know, Chris 125 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: Paul's career is still being written. Um right now, I'd 126 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: have stocked in ahead of Chris Paul, but I think 127 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: he would. I would have CP ahead of Jason Kidd. Alright, well, 128 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: I'm disagreeing on Jason Kidd. First of all, Stockton career leader. 129 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: I believe in assists and steals in NBA history. Neither 130 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: of those records are gonna be broken because he played forever. 131 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: As you said, you know, um unathletic white guy. But 132 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: by the way, he played eighty two games like thirteen times. 133 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: I mean the guy I never took days off. Just 134 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: physical marvel despite his six oh one seventy stature um, 135 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: which is not that much better than me um. As 136 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,679 Speaker 1: for Jason Kidd, I know he was ridiculed as called 137 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: Ason Kidd because he had no j meaning no jumper. 138 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: You can't use the J and Jason. But you want 139 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: to hype up Chris Paul's defensive credentials. Jason Kidd four 140 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: time All NBA First Team All Defense, five time All 141 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: NBA Second Team Defense. This guy did win a title. 142 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: I know it was late in his career. Five times 143 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: All NBA First Team point Guard. Now, I know that 144 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: was in between Magic. It was like after Magic and 145 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: Isaiah and before um Lebron in the league really turned 146 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: into a point guard league. I'm sorry, not Lebron, Stephen Curry. 147 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: Uh Curry didn't take over for a while. And you 148 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: know he was kind of before Chris Paul became a superstar. 149 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: But Jason Kidd is, come on, that guy's a legend. 150 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: I I certainly have j Kidd over Chris Paul. And 151 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: again that's not a knock. I'm not slamming Chris Paul 152 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: because I have Hall of famers above him. But I 153 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: think my bigger beef, ore Rob g is with you 154 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: proclaiming Chris Paul's first team All NBA this year. And 155 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: I know there's still ten twelve ish games left. But 156 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: I think several of the spots are locked. We know 157 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: Curry is a stone cold lock first team, we know 158 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: Janice stone cold lock and beat your kich. I think 159 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: four of the positions are taken. Where it gets interesting, 160 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: Rob g is if you want to put Chris Paul 161 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: First Team All NBA, you are now leaving people off 162 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 1: the number one team in the East. That would be 163 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: Hardened Kyrie, who your boy Rob Parker's teping up for 164 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: and James Harden. And you're leaving off everybody on the 165 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: Utah Jazz, who are also the number one seed in 166 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: the West. So the not the top two seeds in 167 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: each conference not represented in All NBA, and I mean 168 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: the Jazz. It basically lead the sucker wire to wire. 169 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: I don't listen, this gets difficult with the whole first 170 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: place how do you reward them? But neither of the 171 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: first place teams is going to get the m v P. 172 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: Neither is gonna get first Team All NBA. It almost 173 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: feels a little how do I say this politely disrespectful? Rob? Oh, 174 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: are you done now here? You've you got that out 175 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: of your off your a chest. You feel better about 176 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: what you just said. Look let's start off with the 177 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets. None of those three guys have played enough 178 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: games to be considered for First Team All NBA. No, 179 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: he has not played enough. I think he's missed seventeen games, 180 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: and Joel Embiads miss more than that. Yeah, but Joel 181 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: Embiad has been much more dominant when he's been on 182 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: the court than Kyrie Irving has. So that's that's one. 183 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: I mean, this is gonna be a strange year because 184 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: you're not going to have Lebron James, I think is 185 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: not in a consideration for first team. Anthony Davis won't be, 186 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant won't be, James Harden won't be. I mean, 187 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: those are arguably four of the top five players in 188 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: the NBA who you can't even have a legitimate conversation 189 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: about whether or not they belonged First Team All NBA 190 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: because they've been hurt. Where I think this really gets tricky, 191 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: and again I might the Jazz forget about them. Donovan 192 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: Mitchell has had a great season, he has not been 193 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: a first team All NBA caliber player this season. I 194 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: don't think what about what about the stifle Tower, Rudy Gobert. Yeah, 195 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: but he's a front court player. So how you know 196 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: there's two guards. Do you think there'll be a push 197 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: for Rudy Gobert over and beat Uh? There could be, 198 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: but I think that Embiid would have one m v 199 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: P had he played enough games this season, and because 200 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: he did not, I think that's why Yoki is gonna 201 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: run away with it. Yokich, I mean, I've heard people 202 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: say this is the seasons all about been endurance, and 203 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: nobody has endured more than Nicola Yokich this season. I 204 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: think that Okay Gobert, I believe it's played in fifty 205 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: nine of sixty games. Um he has the highest player 206 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: efficiency rating on the Jazz, but it only ranks eighteenth 207 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: in the league behind Valentiunist, Kyrie Uh Clint Cappella, who's 208 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: been dominant on a UM on a Hawks team that's 209 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: actually going to the playoffs. But um, Okay fair enough 210 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: and be does lead the league in player efficiency rating, 211 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: Yoki just second. Right, So what where I think it 212 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: comes down to for that last guard spot is Luca 213 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: don Chet, Damian Lillard and Chris Paul In my opinion, 214 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: that's where that's where you're going to decide who gets 215 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: that last spot, and to me, Luca puts up gaudy numbers, 216 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: but the offensive, the whole team is built around him, 217 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: so he's gonna get numbers regardless, kind of like the 218 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: same way that Atlanta and Trey Young gets numbers. Like 219 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: when you have the ball that much and everything is 220 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: built around you and you're orbiting the sun, you know 221 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna put up numbers. Dame Lillard, I think would 222 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: have had a good case had the Blazers not slipped recently. 223 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: And it's not to you know, he pulled a hamstring, 224 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: so it's kind of hard to blame him, but I 225 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: think that's gonna be counted against him. The Phoenix Suns 226 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: as of this morning, or only one and a half 227 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: games out of the top seed in the Western Conference. 228 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: The Phoenix Suns, who both you and I said before 229 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: the season that we didn't understand the Chris Paultry. You're like, oh, 230 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: so you're gonna get a thirty five year old point 231 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 1: guard to give him forty million dollars a year to 232 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: just to make the eight seed and get smacked by 233 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: the Lakers in the first round, Like we didn't believe 234 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: in what they might become. And the only reason why 235 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: they are where they are, which I've said numerous times 236 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: on this podcast on The Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio, 237 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: the only difference maker on that roster is Chris Paul. Mhmm. 238 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: Chris Paul single handedly turned and also ran team a 239 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: middle of the road no man's land, not quite bad 240 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: enough to be the worst team in the NBA, but 241 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: not a playoff or a legitimate contender, a definitive middle 242 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: of the road team into arguably the best team in 243 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: the Western Conference. M hmm. Okay, that's a convincing case. 244 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: Let me push back a little bit. Okay, so I'm 245 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: really curious with the advanced UH stats community comes in. 246 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: So obviously you know the stat wind shares your kids 247 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: running away with it. Curry seven, Chris Paul ninth, Damian 248 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: Lillard ten. I mean, it's a minuscule different seven point 249 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: five or seven point four that's in wind shares. Um. 250 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: By the way, Zion Williamson, who deserves some first team consideration, 251 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: is top five in like every advanced A category. Just 252 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: putting that out there, um, defensive wind shares is I 253 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: think where Chris Paul gets a huge edge on Damian Lillard. 254 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: The Blazers much to my chagrin, are one of the 255 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: worst defensive teams in the league. And um, Damian Lillard 256 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: not playing a ton of defense. So offensively, I give 257 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: you Lilard the edge, but CP three gets the edge defensively, 258 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: and so I'm a sue ming rob that you're giving 259 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: the Sons being number two in the West in what's 260 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: pretty much a stack conference. I think the West, we 261 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: both agree, is much better than the East right, and 262 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: so that's where CP three gets the edge over over Damon. 263 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know box plus minus. I don't 264 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: even really know what that is. It's an advanced stat 265 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: that people reference all the time. Damian Lillard's fift, Chris 266 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: Paul's box plus minus. Um, it's hard if you don't 267 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: know what it means. I don't know. Now. I do 268 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: know that the usage rate stat which is interesting, and 269 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: Damian Lillard's ninth and Chris Paul is not in the 270 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: top twenty, like Chris Paul clearly has a better team. 271 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: I mean, hell, there would be people who agree that 272 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: Devin Booker is a better player than Chris Paul. Is 273 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: that a better season Devin Booker, By the way, it 274 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: was phenomenal against the Knicks um thirty three points. You know, 275 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to say he's like the second best 276 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: shooting guard in the league, but he might be. Devin 277 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: Booker's that good. And how can you give Chris Paul, 278 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: who is a clutch player, made some big clutch shots 279 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: against the next how can you give him first team 280 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: over d book Like, wasn't book Or the All Star 281 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: and Chris Paul didn't make it. Chris Paul and Devin 282 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: Booker was an injury replacement. And that's that's the guy 283 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: that everybody was like, how is book Or not in 284 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: the All Star? Remember all the players were like prefending 285 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: the Yeah, so I just he's not even the best 286 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: player on his team most important, sure, but Dame is 287 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: definitely the best player. Luca without him, I mean, by 288 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: a mile, is the best player. I don't know. I like, 289 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: remember what happened, Okay, see in the playoffs last year. 290 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: You know they got smoked? Did they mean they pushed down? 291 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: They were well, they were down to nothing, and then 292 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: Dennis Shrewder bailed him out, uh bringing him back, and 293 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: then lu Dort at a game and Chris Paul was 294 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: not even like one of the three best players in 295 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: the series. I don't want to call him a regular 296 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: season guy, but tell me the playoff series that Chris 297 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: Paul has ever made a difference. Now, you could say, well, Jason, 298 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: it's just the regular season, but how many times do 299 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: you do this? Give guys regular season awards the playoffs 300 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: come said, guy soils his pants and vomits all over himself, 301 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: and we're like, why did we vote that guy when 302 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: the playoffs matter that more than anything. I don't know. 303 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: Think of an NFL player who always crushes in the 304 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: regular season and then the playoffs comes up empty. I don't. 305 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: I mean, is gonna yell? Come on? I mean I 306 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. You're making two different arguments. If 307 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: you want to say the playoff success or failures against 308 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: Chris Paul, you wanta hold the games, and that's fine, 309 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: but that's something you hold against him when you're comparing 310 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: him to Jason Kidder John Stockton like you did earlier. 311 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:01,719 Speaker 1: If you're making the discussion about this season all NBA, 312 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: who deserves that last guard spot? All I gotta you 313 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: want to bring up Devon Booker. Devin Booker, like I said, 314 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: is the Zach Levine of the West. He will give 315 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: you great stats on a terrible team. Year and year out. 316 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: Before Chris Paul got there, he had won more than 317 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: twenty four games in his career one time. He won 318 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: thirty four games last year, which was the pinnacle of 319 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: Devin Booker's career. And the only reason they got the 320 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: thirty four wins is because they went to no in 321 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 1: the bubble with no fans and everybody started shooting out 322 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: of their minds because they had no pressure on them. 323 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: Each one more shout out to t J. Warren. Okay, 324 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:45,959 Speaker 1: but with Chris Paul, everywhere he goes, he affects winning 325 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: unlike anybody not named what Lebron, James and probably James Harden. 326 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: Now this is from stat Muse. This is even three 327 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: weeks old, so the stats are even better now than 328 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: what they were at the time. When Chris Paul got 329 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: to the Hornets. The year before they had a two 330 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 1: twenty win percentage forty six percent winning afterwards. When he 331 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: was there, the Clippers three up to six. The Rockets, 332 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: who were very very good. They were a perennial second 333 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: or you know, second round team in the playoffs sent 334 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: win percentage. Chris Paul gets there seventy nine percent win 335 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 1: percentage the okay see thunder fifty nine win percentage. And 336 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: that was when they had you know, Russell Westbrook and 337 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant. You know, so they had a pretty good 338 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: team for a long time. Chris Paul gets there sixty one. 339 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: So he made an already good team even better. And 340 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: that's after subtracting Russell Westbrook, who had been their best player. 341 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: Phoenix forty six percent he gets there. This was again, 342 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: this is for three weeks ago. Seventy win percentage. So 343 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: say what you want about his stats. I know he 344 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: doesn't put up the biggest numbers. He's not if you 345 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: want put him stat for stat against Luca Dodges or 346 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: Damian Lillard, even with advances, I don't think he really 347 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: matches up to them. But if you want to talk 348 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: about impact and impacting a game, I don't think there's 349 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: anybody that has a better case this season than Chris Paul. 350 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: Huh that listen? This is probably listen, Rob, Do you 351 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: make some decent arguments? Okay, obviously that's why we love 352 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: to chop it up and argue with each other all 353 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: the time. Um, I would say this is probably your 354 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: most compelling argument. Um, And it's weird because I don't 355 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: even think you're a Chris Paul guy, are you? No? No, 356 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 357 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports 358 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app 359 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: search f s R to listen live. I just find 360 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: him insufferable. And that's probably why I'm um slow to 361 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: warm up to your first team All NBA take, but 362 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: just simply because I'm not a fan of his work. Um, 363 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: it just seems insufferable, you know. And again maybe I'm 364 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: just I have such a soft spot for guys like 365 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: uh Curry. And what happened with Blake Griffin? Do you remember? 366 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: Wasn't there an incident after he left the Clippers where 367 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: he got thrown out of a game and then he 368 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: and someone else, um nearly got into it with Was 369 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: it Blake Griffin when he went to Detroit? Like there 370 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: was something that happened at Staples Center and he was 371 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: at the center of it. And I'll never forget game 372 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: I think it was Game six in Houston and the 373 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: Warriors had to go back to Houston for games. I 374 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: think it was Game six and there was no Durant 375 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: and everybody thought, oh my gosh, jeez, Warriors, they're in trouble. 376 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure Steph Curry showed up to get 377 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: up shots like at like nine o'clock at night or 378 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: in the afternoon or evening, and Chris Paul went and 379 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: made them kick Curry out so Chris Paul could get 380 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: up shots the night before the game. Do you remember this? 381 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: And I also remember the locker room story. I can 382 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: get that to you when you're doing with this, right, 383 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: So you know, it's things like this that just irk me. Um, 384 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: he just it just seems like a dick, you know. 385 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: And I know that shouldn't matter, Jason, remove the emotion. 386 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: Just look at the numbers. Well, if you trust the numbers, Yes, 387 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: Chris Paul is one of the biggest difference makers in 388 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: the regular season. I need to stress that in the league. Um, 389 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: if you take Dame off Portland, they basically become Phoenix 390 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: without Chris Paul. If you take Luca off the MAVs, well, 391 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: I think they drop even even lower. The probably one 392 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: of the worst teams in the league without Lucay. This 393 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,719 Speaker 1: is tough. I'm gonna probably have to reserve judgment I'm 394 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: gonna lean toward Rob g making his best arguments and 395 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: Chris Paul. You know, luckily it's it's going up against 396 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: Dame and uh Luca because if it were against Zion Williamson. 397 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, all the stats favor Zion 398 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: and I know they're like eleventh in the West because 399 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: their coach stinks and you know, the roster's garbage. But 400 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: we we predicted that, we saw that coming a mile away. Um, 401 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: I'd like to get Zion on that team. Let's see 402 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: how many games and be plays down the stretch. Now, 403 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: tell me this fun story about Steph Curry versus CP 404 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: three and then Chris Paul in the bowels of Staples 405 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: while the Steph Curry one that you told it exactly right. 406 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 1: You know, he was gonna get his shots up per usual, 407 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: and Chris Paul decided, now I'm gonna get my shots 408 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: up and I'm gonna use your side of the court, 409 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: you know, just to play a little mind game with you. 410 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: And that's the better story is. Um. It was the 411 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: Rockets and the Clippers in the locker room. And anyone 412 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: who's ever been a Staple Center knows that there's a 413 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: kind of a backway entrance into their locker between the 414 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: visiting locker and the home locker room. And if you 415 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: are a member of the Clippers, you know exactly how 416 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: that works. And know what happened was Clint Capella acted 417 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: as like a diversion that allowed Chris paul to go 418 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: through the back hallway in an attempt to h attack 419 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: Austin Rivers. Oh that's right, Austin Rivers. Yes, great, it 420 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: was ultimately unsuccessful, but the intent was there, and that 421 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: for that alone, I think you gotta give him around 422 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: replies for and and And this is another thing, like 423 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: he played with Austin Rivers, right, they were teammates on 424 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: the Clippers, I'm almost certain, with Doc as the coach, right, correct. Yeah, 425 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: And it was such an awful experience for Austin Rivers, 426 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: probably because he didn't play defense or hustle um that 427 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: he wanted to him and he probably said something really 428 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: nasty to Chris Paul um and they were ready to 429 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: throw fists. Um yeah, I mean all fairness though, who 430 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: hasn't wanted to punch Austin Rivers. I let me say, um, 431 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: you know you do projections of players coming out of college. 432 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: I was so in love with Austin Rivers game at 433 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: Duke Dude, nobody could stay in front of his cross 434 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: over in a one on one space. He's unstoppable. The 435 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: guy is super, super talented. And then he gets to 436 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: the NBA and it's like, I mean he literally would 437 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: have his head down dribbling rob and he just not 438 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 1: looked to pass to anyone and then his defense was 439 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: passive at best and it just went downhill. Now he 440 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: has shown up in Spurts. I think he's had a 441 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: couple of big games. He's going over thirty a bunch 442 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: of times. He might have had a forty point game, 443 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: and he played well for the Knicks earlier this year. Um, 444 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: but super interesting that anybody, anybody who plays with Chris 445 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 1: Paul leaves him, and it's just like, and what do 446 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: you think? What do you think about this? Is it 447 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: interesting that as as good of friends as Lebron and 448 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: Chris Paul are that Lebron's never tried to get him 449 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: honest team? Well, he did try this pass offseason, and 450 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: they just couldn't make it work because his salary is 451 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: so big, you know, it's kind of it's really difficult. 452 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: Lebron ever not gotten something he wanted. No, I just 453 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: think it was mathematically impossible, Like they would have had 454 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: to sign and trade Contavious Callwell Pope to like a 455 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: twenty five million dollar contract and then throw in every 456 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: other good player they had. It would have been CP, 457 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis and Lebron And even then, you know, if 458 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: you're Oklahoma City, why the how would you want Contavious 459 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: Caldwell Pope. It's million dollars a year. Yeah, they'd be 460 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: sitting in like they're sitting Al Horford in one of 461 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: the most egregious tank jobs I can remember in the NBA. 462 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: And let's quickly pivot. I was gonna mention the NIXT 463 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: but who cares? They lost the winning Treaks over Chris 464 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: Paul had two prayers real quick before we do. Julio Jones, 465 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: I just need to point out to some folks in 466 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: what has been a quiet turn of events, not quite shocking, 467 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: but just quiet. If you look at the NBA, State 468 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: in Minnesota was the worst team in the league forever. Okay, Houston, 469 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: if you followed the story, you know earlier on yesterday's POT, 470 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: I mentioned um they had an incident at the Booby 471 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: Trap Strip Club in Miami and they have now shut 472 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: down John Wall. They are in full on tank mode 473 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: like they are the meme of that tank sketting on ice. 474 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: That's the Houston Rockets right now. Um, it's so funny. 475 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: We talked about Chris Paul being such a difference maker. 476 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: Houston loses James Harden and what happened to them? They went, 477 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: They went from you know Russ and Harden last year too. 478 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: I don't even know who the hell is playing for 479 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: the Rockets now. They now have the worst record in 480 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: the league. Minnesota playing well now with um former Laker 481 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: Dan one of Rob's favorite guys of all time, Karl, 482 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: Anthony Towns and Anthony Edwards, who, by the way, is 483 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: making the Rookie of the Year case. Interesting. Timberwolves now 484 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: actually half a game up on Orlando for the third spot. 485 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: And remember people, Minnesota's pick goes to the Warriors if 486 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: it's outside the top three. So yes, the Golden State Warriors, 487 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: in a draft that's basically considered a five person draft, 488 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: could get the fourth pick. Of course, we know Kate Cunningham, 489 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, mobile USC, Jalen Green and the G League, 490 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: and then Jalen Sugs from Gazaga. The other kid is Kominga, 491 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: who's also in the G League, a bit more of 492 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: a project. The Warriors would not want him if they're 493 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: trying to contend. Um. He's really talented player with a 494 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: lot of upside, but they don't want him. Now was 495 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: Steph Currys turning thirty four? I mean, if they got 496 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: their hands on the Mobili kid out of USC do 497 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: you pair him with Meisman? Do you trade him or Wiseman? Uh? 498 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: Do you trade the pick and Wiseman for Bradley Beal 499 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: if he becomes available. The Warriors will have options. Just 500 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: keep an eye on that pick. But um, okay, see 501 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: who Rob has has mentioned? Um, the team who had 502 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: Chris Paul last year. Okay see now the fourteen straight 503 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: losses and they are the fifth worst team in the league. 504 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: They have all of the lottery picks for what the 505 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 1: next decade? And uh, we'll see what they can do. 506 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: Rob Let's quickly go to the NFL. We didn't get 507 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: to this on Monday's pot. It kind of broke early 508 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: early Monday morning. We didn't quite get to it. Julio 509 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: Jones of the Atlanta Falcons, veteran receiver production has started 510 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: to decline. He's not playing as many snaps as he 511 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: used to. If you followed. Uh, Julio Jones's career is 512 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: one of the seminal receivers of this generation. Uh, certainly 513 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame lock. He I don't know, is 514 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: he in that Calvin Johnson class? Would you say, Rob, Oh, 515 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: I think he's better than Calvin Johnson, you know, in 516 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: his career. I don't know if like individually, he's a 517 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: better receiver, but as far as career, he's had a 518 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: much better career than Calvin Johnson. Uh. He did go 519 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. Should have a Super Bowl ring. 520 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: But we don't want to bash Kyle Shanahan any further. Um, 521 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: he's open now. It was unclear if he's open to 522 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: a trade or they're looking for a trade partner, or 523 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: he gave the okay that they could trade him. I 524 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: don't know what was your read on that, Rob, because 525 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: I remember this is NFL Draft week, smoke screen season 526 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: is in full mother bleep in effect. Well, when I 527 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: first saw the headline, I also thought it was a 528 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: smoke screen. I thought, Hey, we're just trying to drum 529 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: up interest. Maybe we can get a first round pick 530 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: for this guy, until I saw that it wasn't just 531 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport who floated out, It was also Albert Rear. 532 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: It was also Peter King, so three friends of the 533 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: show who are all very reputable reporters. So then I 534 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: start to believe it a little bit. But then late 535 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: last night, Falcons general manager Terry Fontaneau does an interview 536 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: with a local news station and they asked him about 537 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: it and say, hey, you know, what's this going on 538 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: with Julio Jones. Are you guys accepting calls on him? 539 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: Because that's what's been flowed at that they are taking 540 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: calls on anybody who wants to track Ruleio Jones. And 541 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: to his credit, he gave arguably the most honest answer 542 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: that I think a GM could give it a situation. 543 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: He says, look, we're in a difficult cap situation. That's 544 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: just a circumstance when teams call about any player, we 545 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: have to listen. So it doesn't seem what they really 546 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: want to get rid of him, but they understand that 547 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: they are in salary cap hell, they only have a 548 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: few guys who are actually worth anything on the open market, 549 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: and if they can find a way to save themselves 550 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars against the cap this season. I think 551 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to think about it. And uh, I 552 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: would be shocked at this point if he is a 553 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: Falcon next season. Oh come on, jeez, I that that 554 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: is a man. That's a quantum leap you're making. Remember 555 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: that show with Scott Bacula in the eighties. Of course 556 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: you don't. You aren't even born. Um, what what kind 557 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: of message are you sending if you're I mean the heart? 558 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: Who's the heart and soul of that team? Julio and 559 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan Julio, Okay, you're dump. You get a new GM, 560 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: you get a new coach, both first time head coach, 561 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: first time GM. There was talk about them going quarterback 562 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: at four and now you're dumping Julio Jones. Why don't 563 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: you just start over? Like what are you doing dumping Julio? Now? 564 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: I know Calvin Ridley is really good it, um, but 565 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: I don't see why they don't make one more push. 566 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: This almost feels like the new guys trying to outthink 567 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: the room. Remember the guys got to Green Bay. Uh, 568 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: what's his face? The new coach there? La Fleur goes 569 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: there and what do they do, like, Oh, we're gonna 570 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: invest in a backup quarterback in the first round, and 571 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: then we're gonna get another running back, Like we're gonna 572 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: do everything we can to not help our star quarterback 573 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: who's a legend Aaron Rodgers, Like Matt Ryan's been there 574 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,479 Speaker 1: forever due to his cap situation. He ain't going nowhere, 575 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: So you're gonna take away Julio Jones, what is Arthur 576 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: Blank all of a sudden like opened to starting over? Hey, Arthur, 577 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: do you remember what life was like in the eighties 578 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: as a Falcons fan? Just because you guys got lucky 579 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: with Matt Ryan in the draft and went to a 580 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and you went to a bunch of playoff games, Like, 581 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: it can be really brutal in the wildern if you 582 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: don't have a star quarterback. And if you want to 583 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: make Matt Ryan unhappy, sure, Julio Jones, Yeah, great idea. Now, 584 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what he's got left in the tank. 585 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: He is only thirty two, and I was looking up 586 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: some of his stats, like he hasn't crater, he hasn't 587 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: fallen off a cliff. I don't think he's quite the 588 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: caliber receiver like say a Randy Moss, who can go 589 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: from Rob G's Raiders to the Patriots and put up 590 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: historic numbers. I don't know if he's capable of that, um, 591 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: but he can be a very very good receiver on 592 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: a playoff team. He could still be a number one. 593 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think he's gonna want to go 594 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: to like my Jets, who have all the capitom in 595 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: the world because they stink um and be like a 596 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: grown up in a locker room for the young kids. 597 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: But damn if I could get my hands on Julio 598 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: Jones for a young quarterback like Zach Wilson, Oh, that 599 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: would be amazing. Julio, they got the Denzel Mims uh, 600 00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: Corey Davis, Jamison Crowder Uh. Now, Rob G hasten me 601 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: text to stop talking about the Jets again. Um, I 602 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: don't know, Rob. My guess is Julio's not going anywhere 603 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: and this is just you know, idle chit chat to 604 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: see if you can generate some kind of sweet offer. 605 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: But who's backing up the Brinks for a thirty two 606 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 1: year old receiver? That would be my John Gruden, who's 607 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 1: willing to back up the brinks chuck for a third Yards. 608 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: He did the same thing for Antonio Brown already, and 609 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: so I would not be ended in spectacular facts. You 610 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: act like that will stop him. You know, they they 611 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: drafted terribly with Cleveland Furral in the first round. They 612 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 1: reached for him, and then they followed up the following 613 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: year by reaching for um Our Nett, the cornerback. Oh goodness, 614 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,919 Speaker 1: what a disaster. So um, I also need to add, 615 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: did you see the report on your Raiders that Gruden 616 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: is out on players who opted out? Did you see that? 617 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 1: I saw that the Pittsburgh is out on that as well. Well. 618 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: It's interesting that Gruden would come out and say that 619 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: because a lot of people in some mock drafts had 620 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: kind of pegged Micah Parsons from Penn State to the 621 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 1: Raiders because you know, John Gruden likes toughness, he likes 622 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: football guys, We're gonna hit smash and all those chucky 623 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: isms that were a deal when he was you know, 624 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: the Monday night football announcer. Um. But like, personally, I 625 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: have no I no earthly clue what your Raiders are doing. 626 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: At least my Jets have bottomed out. So if they 627 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: went for Julio and be like, hey, We're trying to 628 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: grow up and get some veterans and make a quick 629 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: push while the Patriots are still down. Miami doesn't know 630 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 1: what they have with Tua, and you know, it was 631 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 1: just basically dangling him for Deshaun Watson and maybe we 632 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: sneak into the playoffs with Big Ben's career coming to 633 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: an end. Your Raiders are in a brutal division. I'm 634 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: just gonna put this out there quietly. You know, if 635 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 1: you're deep into a thirty five minute podcast, for even 636 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: a podcast like, maybe you'll pick this kernel up. I 637 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: have a Denver Broncos super Bowl ticket. I know they're 638 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: not gonna win a super Bowl with Drew Locket quarterback, 639 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: but should they fall asked backward into a capable quarterback, 640 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: that team has a ton of talent. Quietly, they had 641 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: an amazing offseason. Rob without question, your Raiders are the 642 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: worst team in the a f C West. We know 643 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: the chiefs of one. I think we both agree that 644 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,919 Speaker 1: Chargers are two. The Raiders are I mean they're headed 645 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: for five wins, and I mean I don't know how 646 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: you get your You need the jaws of life to 647 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 1: get out of John Druden's contract. Well, quickly on the 648 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: whole opt out situation before we devitail and finish this 649 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: off on Julio. The Raiders flouted the COVID rules more 650 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 1: than anybody in the NFL last season, So that tells 651 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: me that they don't think it was that big of 652 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,479 Speaker 1: a deal, and anybody who thinks it is the big deal, 653 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: I think they may think that they are what's the 654 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,760 Speaker 1: word beta's and that's why we don't want him in Vegas. 655 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 1: I think that that's John Gruten's attitude. But with Julio, 656 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: I think that the reason why they're even considering an 657 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: accepting call Julio number want to save money. But I 658 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: think that they know that there is a very very 659 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: good chance that they could have justin Field staring at 660 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: them at number four, and I think it would behoove 661 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 1: them to not take the hometown kid. Build for the future. 662 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: And if you're going to do that, there's no reason 663 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: to keep Julio Jones around because you know you're you're 664 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: basically so you're telling me you are endorsing the Falcons 665 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: hunting on this season. Okay, even though Drew Brees retired 666 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: and the division is you know, Tampa's to lose but 667 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: Carolinas in rebuild mode, I don't think anybody believes in 668 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: the Saints. You're basically saying, hey, we're gonna you know, 669 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: we're gonna be way over the cap, and we're going 670 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: to get a quarterback for our future, and you know 671 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: who really cares about this season? Would you say that 672 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: they are much better without Julio Jones than with him, 673 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: like he's really making that big of a difference. Well, no, no, 674 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: I'm I'm saying that. But they can't. They can't do 675 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: what San Francisco was planning on doing with Jimmy Garoppolo. Um, well, 676 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: I I A, I don't know that they feel as 677 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,439 Speaker 1: confident that Arthur Smith. Who I mean, can we say 678 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,399 Speaker 1: he made Ryan Tannehill? Um, yes, I don't know. Ryan 679 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: Tannehill was a top ten pick and did nothing in Miami. Um, 680 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 1: and and kind of refurbished his career if you will, 681 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,879 Speaker 1: in Tennessee. But let's just say I have more faith 682 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: in Kyle Shanahan than I do Arthur Smith. And at 683 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: the same time, like, you're getting now the fourth best 684 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,240 Speaker 1: quarterback in the draft, But is he the fourth best quarterback? Well, 685 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 1: I didn't have the top three guys don't want him. 686 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: Nobody else was trading up for him yesterday. Kyle Shanahan 687 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,760 Speaker 1: believes more in Kyle Shannahan that he does any quarterback. 688 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: That's what. Yeah. I love this draft stuff. Alright, guys, 689 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,879 Speaker 1: so this has been a good one. Um, I don't think. 690 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll see, maybe there's another level to Julio. We 691 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: have a really good guest coming up tomorrow. You guys 692 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: are gonna like his stuff. Um, forty eight hours to 693 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: the draft. Get ready, folks. Uh, it's gonna be a blast. 694 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,280 Speaker 1: We will talk to you tomorrow.