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Speaker 10: He looked amazing, and the crowd was amazing as well.

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Speaker 10: Of course, yeah, you know I would put him against

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Speaker 10: someone like a Banil Darusch Daryush another fantastic grappler, a

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Speaker 10: guy that you know.

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Speaker 7: Hits hard as well, been around the game for a

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Speaker 7: little bit.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 7: I think it makes sense too. You have Darushian around

440
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Speaker 7: nine right now? Yeah, yeah, you know, so, I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I think that's a fight that makes sense. I wouldn't

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Speaker 7: mind watching that one.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that matchup does make a lot of sense.

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Speaker 7: Can flow. We'll see what they do with BSD.

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Speaker 9: But he has dealt with a lot of adversity in

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Speaker 9: this UFC career, and I think this was a really

447
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Speaker 9: responsive win by him, and a win as underdog against

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Speaker 9: a guy that a lot of the pondits like Ken

449
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Speaker 9: Flow really liked him.

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Speaker 7: Mauricio Hoofy.

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Speaker 9: Fascinating to see how Hoofy responds. But Ben wasis Antony

452
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Speaker 9: is very much in the mix at one hundred and

453
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Speaker 9: fifty five pounds, and I think he's used the Poorier

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Speaker 9: experience and others to his advantage as he moves things forward.

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Speaker 9: All Right, I want to get into uh Modestus Pokowskis

456
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Speaker 9: if I could, because nice guys don't always finish last

457
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Speaker 9: Kenny four in a row for the uh Lithuanian Englishman

458
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Speaker 9: Modestus Pokowskis, and this was a fight that on paper

459
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Speaker 9: he was supposed to win against Paul bar Jeue Craig,

460
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Speaker 9: who retired after the fact. But I really feel good

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Speaker 9: for Bekowskis to be in this position, second to UFC

462
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Speaker 9: stint four straight wins. He's going to fight a top

463
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Speaker 9: fifteen guy at light heavyweight, and yeah, Modesta Pokowski's got

464
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Speaker 9: to be a good Monday to be him.

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Speaker 10: This is the one highlight of my picks. He completed

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Speaker 10: the parlay for me, But yeah, I thought he looked great.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 10: I think Paul Craig actually looked really good as well.

469
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Speaker 10: I thought, you know, his stand up was looking sharp.

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Speaker 10: He was doing a good job of trying to keep

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Speaker 10: Pokowskis on the outside. But Bokowskis kept kind of finding

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Speaker 10: a way to get on the inside of his defenses

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Speaker 10: with those blitzing attacks, and that was throwing Paul Craig off.

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Speaker 10: And I think bokowski is a speed is athleticism really

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Speaker 10: in the end was the thing that got Paul Craig.

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Speaker 10: And Paul Craig has excellent size, but he's not maybe

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Speaker 10: the fastest guy in the world, and I think Bokowskis

478
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Speaker 10: took full advantage of that. And you know, I've been

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Speaker 10: watching him in May a long time. Very few things

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Speaker 10: kind of get me out of my chair. When I

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Speaker 10: saw that elbow knockout John. First of all, you know,

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Speaker 10: it was it was so violent. I was very concerned

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Speaker 10: for Paul Craig, but I got I got off the

484
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Speaker 10: couch and I was like.

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Speaker 7: What the hell.

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Speaker 10: That elbow was just nasty. I mean, just could have

487
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Speaker 10: pummeled Craig's head into the canvas. It was that hard,

488
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Speaker 10: but it was vicious, and that's the kind of aggression

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Speaker 10: you want to see from a guy, is that when

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Speaker 10: he gets you hurt, he's trying to take you out. Bokowskis, man.

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Speaker 10: It just shows that he confident, he's been working on

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Speaker 10: his game. He was not afraid to go to the

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Speaker 10: ground with Paul Craig, and he's firing in all cylinders.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 9: Among the three names that he called out Jeong Migyong

496
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Speaker 9: who just lost to Johnny Walker, and Johnny Walker. I

497
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Speaker 9: don't know if you have an appetite for Bekowskis against

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Speaker 9: either of those two guys. He did also mention the

499
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Speaker 9: name Alonzo Menafield. I'm not sure if Menafield is ranked

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Speaker 9: must be I guessed at Pekowskis is calling his.

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Speaker 7: Name, But what do you think?

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Speaker 8: I mean?

503
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Speaker 9: I think the Johnny Walker fight, you know, makes some sense.

504
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Speaker 9: It's crazy to think about modesas Pokowskis elevating himself into

505
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Speaker 9: like a light heavyweight main event.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna try not to cry, but you do get

508
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Speaker 9: sort of attached to these guys, and his father is

509
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Speaker 9: there every step of the way. Jentis pokowskis you know,

510
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Speaker 9: this was a guy who was in the United States

511
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Speaker 9: right chasing basketball dreams at one point in time when

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Speaker 9: he trained with John Jones. All right, we're going to

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Speaker 9: table the UFC stuff just for a minute here. It

514
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Speaker 9: looks like we do have the International Boxing Hall of

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Speaker 9: Famer at least on the phone or and if we

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Speaker 9: get video, we'll go to that. But now with us

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Speaker 9: one of the three men in the booth this weekend

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Speaker 9: for Canelo v. Crawford Live on Netflix two thousand and four.

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Speaker 9: Olympic gold medalist, former super middleweight and late heavyweight world champion,

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Speaker 9: twenty twenty one International Boxing Hall of Fame inductee, and

521
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Speaker 9: arguably the great at super midweight of all time, Andre

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Speaker 9: Ward Is with us.

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Speaker 7: My man, it's great to see you. Good morning. How

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Speaker 7: are we doing, Ellis?

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Speaker 13: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 8: Happy to be on.

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Speaker 9: I know your time is precious, so we appreciate a

528
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Speaker 9: few minutes of it, especially during this big fight week.

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Speaker 9: You know, I know you got a lot of irons

530
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Speaker 9: in the fire as a businessman, as a host, but

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Speaker 9: I'd imagine as a commentator you were pretty excited when

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Speaker 9: when they called your number for a live event of

533
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Speaker 9: this magnitude.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's always a blessing.

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Speaker 14: Been in the game a long time, you know, I've

536
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Speaker 14: you know, feel like I paid my dues.

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Speaker 13: I think I think a lot of people feel like.

538
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Speaker 14: I started commentating, you know, post career, but you know,

539
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Speaker 14: I've really been at it for.

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Speaker 13: A very long time.

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Speaker 14: And you know, similar to yourself, Man, I just I

542
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Speaker 14: take a serious I really you know, dig deep and

543
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Speaker 14: and on the research and just try to get my

544
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Speaker 14: mind right.

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Speaker 13: And I approach it like like a fight, you know.

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Speaker 14: I want I want to make sure that I've dotted

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Speaker 14: every I and crossed every T. And I give you know,

548
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Speaker 14: fans at home, give the company I'm working with and

549
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Speaker 14: working for everything that that that that they're looking for

550
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Speaker 14: and I and I expect to do the same thing

551
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Speaker 14: here for this big fight.

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Speaker 7: What's your favorite part about it, Andrea?

553
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Speaker 10: Because you were such a cerebral fighter, you know, I

554
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Speaker 10: feel like it's an awesome opportunity for you to kind

555
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Speaker 10: of school people on boxing and kind of what the

556
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Speaker 10: mentality and preparation is for fighters.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 14: I mean, the cool thing about commentating for me is,

559
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Speaker 14: you know, I got the best seat in the house,

560
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Speaker 14: but I'm not taking no punches. You know, I'm right there,

561
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Speaker 14: but but I'm not. I'm not quite in the ring.

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Speaker 14: And you know that that that that continues to fuel me.

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Speaker 14: I think that's helped me in retirement, uh, to be

564
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Speaker 14: that close but not but not so close where I'm

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Speaker 14: actually competing.

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Speaker 13: But it is similar to preparing for a fight. There's

567
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Speaker 13: a preparation stage.

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Speaker 14: You know, there's a lot of pressure and when that

569
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Speaker 14: when that light turns on, that red light turns on,

570
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Speaker 14: and you're live.

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Speaker 13: You have to execute. And it's very similar to my sports.

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Speaker 14: So I look at it that way I look at life,

573
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Speaker 14: you know, in that way, just just being a you know,

574
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Speaker 14: a former athlete. Everything is kind of through that that

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Speaker 14: that boxing lands and commentating is very similar to me.

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Speaker 7: Andre.

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Speaker 10: You know, I I love that I have this opportunity

578
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Speaker 10: to ask you this question because you know, you have

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Speaker 10: this pristine record. You're gold medalist uh in the Olympics

580
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Speaker 10: for boxing, and you know people can look at and

581
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Speaker 10: be like, this guy had it he had it easy.

582
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Speaker 10: He never really had to deal with any adversity. I'm curious,

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Speaker 10: is you know, was there a point when you were

584
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Speaker 10: coming up as a boxer where you're like, I don't

585
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Speaker 10: know if this is for me, And then I guess

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Speaker 10: my second question would be what was the fight or

587
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Speaker 10: what was the experience for you? Maybe it was a

588
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Speaker 10: training session where you said I could be a world

589
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Speaker 10: champion at this I think I.

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Speaker 13: Think early on I had questions. You know.

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Speaker 14: My dad started me out on the sport, uh Frank Ward.

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Speaker 14: He was a heavyweight in high school. They actually had boxing,

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Speaker 14: you know, in high school. Grew up in San Bruno, California,

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Speaker 14: and he was telling me about you know, sort of

595
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Speaker 14: his rivals and just the boxing part of it. And

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Speaker 14: I was a baseball player at that time, and I

597
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Speaker 14: got into it because my dad did it, and.

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Speaker 13: It just you know, the first six months was just rough.

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Speaker 14: You know, Nanito Dnaire, who's who's a you know, Hall

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Speaker 14: of Fame, great world champion.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 14: I came up in the gym with him and his

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Speaker 14: brother Glenn, and there a lot of people don't know

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Speaker 14: about his brother, but his brother, you know, we were

605
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Speaker 14: the same size that he was much older than me,

606
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Speaker 14: hit very hard, and I was like the first guy

607
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Speaker 14: had to really overcome for my dad to say, okay,

608
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Speaker 14: he can do this. And it was just rough man

609
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Speaker 14: and my dad would look at Vert and say, I

610
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Speaker 14: don't think he had I don't know if he has it,

611
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Speaker 14: versus give.

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Speaker 13: Him some time, give him some time.

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Speaker 14: And I just and I started to overcome Glenn and

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Speaker 14: I started to you know, break even, and then I

615
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Speaker 14: started to kind of dominate at one point in time,

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Speaker 14: and that's when I knew that I belonged here. And

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Speaker 14: then I had my first national win, national title win

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Speaker 14: six months after that, and that was kind of like

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Speaker 14: it for me where I said, Okay, I can't do this,

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Speaker 14: and it just kind of grew from there.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 13: And then you know, in terms of like you know,

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Speaker 13: even the pro game, like.

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Speaker 14: You gotta, you gotta, you gotta answer the call, but

625
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Speaker 14: then you gotta answer it again, you know, and you

626
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 14: never can really rest until you retire. But the Super

627
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Speaker 14: six was that that that moment for me where it

628
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Speaker 14: was confirmed again that that you know, I belong at

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Speaker 14: this level. You know, there's a lot of uh, naysayers,

630
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Speaker 14: there's supporters, and you know, you just learn to cut

631
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Speaker 14: through that and get the job done. But once you

632
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Speaker 14: actually like win that first world title, get that monkey

633
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Speaker 14: off your back, you prove to yourself the man, I

634
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Speaker 14: belong here at this level, and I'm thankful I lasted

635
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Speaker 14: as long as I did.

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Speaker 9: Andre Ward with us live on the Anakin Flooring Podcast.

637
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Speaker 9: Strongly urge you to check out the documentary. We actually

638
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 9: Kenny and I know the director, Rachel Knuback. It was fantastic.

639
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 9: I watched out My Last Flight s OG The Book

640
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 9: of Ward documentary really just great inside look at your

641
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 9: dad and everything that sort of encompassed your boxing journey.

642
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Speaker 9: I am time permitting going to ask you about a comeback.

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Speaker 9: I know you get asked that every day, but I

644
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Speaker 9: saw the I saw this clip with you and Bud

645
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Speaker 9: today and he says you still got it eight years

646
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Speaker 9: after your last fight. But in terms of this fight

647
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Speaker 9: this weekend, right, you didn't have really any bouts of

648
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Speaker 9: inactivity in your boxing career. You had one injury. I

649
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Speaker 9: guess that was pretty significant after the Chad Dawson fight.

650
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Speaker 9: But one thing you can't speak to is some of

651
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Speaker 9: Bud Crawford's bouts of inactivity when healthy. You were always

652
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Speaker 9: fighting and seemingly in training camp. So that particular angle,

653
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Speaker 9: I'm curious if you think that is an advantage for Canelo,

654
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Speaker 9: you know, going to Saudi Arabia fighting at six am

655
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Speaker 9: and being in this more active competition cycle than the

656
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:38,479
Speaker 9: underdog Bud Crawford.

657
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Speaker 14: I think I think Terrence has been active, you know,

658
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 14: with the exception of this last year, so I think

659
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 14: he's been He's been pretty consistent. The inactivity can go

660
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Speaker 14: both ways. You know, I've had some some injuries throughout

661
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Speaker 14: my career.

662
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Speaker 8: I have.

663
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Speaker 14: You know, there was a moment where I was fighting

664
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Speaker 14: a lawsuit and trying to get my business stuff together

665
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 14: when I was active, and you know, a lot of people,

666
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 14: you know, the low hanging fruit is you lost two years,

667
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 14: and I look at it like I gained two years,

668
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 14: Like I'm not taking any serious punishment.

669
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Speaker 13: But but I'm also not abusing my body. I don't drink,

670
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 13: I don't smoke.

671
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 14: I'm and I'm in the gym, and I'm staying consistent

672
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 14: on my craft and I'm trying to.

673
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 13: Find a way to get back that matters. So you're

674
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 13: you're resting, but then you're also working on your craft.

675
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 14: I'm not getting thirty pounds overweight, you know, I'm not

676
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 14: living the party life and then saying, oh, here's a

677
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,239
Speaker 14: fight now after two years, let me try to get

678
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 14: myself together.

679
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 13: That's a huge difference. So I think we're Terrences in his.

680
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 14: Career right now, he's got miles on the odometer. I

681
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 14: don't think that he's, you know, like an old fighter,

682
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 14: so to speak. But he'll be thirty eight. I think

683
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 14: shortly after this fight, you know.

684
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Speaker 9: For Kenny, you can chime in here. I think we

685
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 9: lost the last half of that answer. Maybe you can

686
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 9: unmute your mike, Andre, if it got muted, Ken Filly,

687
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 9: you want to get one more in here before we

688
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 9: let this man go.

689
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 7: Yes, I'm not sure if he can hear it? Can

690
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 7: you hear Can you hear us? Andre? Okay, maybe we

691
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 7: have to get you back in. We can't hear you

692
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 7: for some reason.

693
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 9: All right, we can try to get him back in,

694
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 9: Cody if you want to in the back. But if not, okay,

695
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 9: all right, so he might get packs. It's uh, there's

696
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 9: so many different angles, right. The angle of the fight

697
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 9: that's going to be most talked about is going to

698
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 9: be the weight, right, and I think you're gonna have

699
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 9: people that maybe lean a lot into the images of

700
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 9: Terrence Bud Crawford looking completely yoked right now as he

701
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 9: moves up to one sixty eight. You got my Champ. Yeah,

702
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 9: still on mute, code man, still not hearing him. Technology technology. Shoot, well,

703
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 9: we thank him nonetheless. So I'm really excited to work

704
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 9: with this man. And when it was brought to my

705
00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 9: attention that he was going to be a third man

706
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 9: in the broadcast booth, people were like, dude, you're gonna

707
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 9: love working with him because he leaves the league in preparation.

708
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 9: You can already tell all right, final attempt.

709
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 7: I got nothing. Oh no, I would love you. Oh

710
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 7: I've heard something. Hello, Hello, Yeah, there we go. You

711
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 7: got me, Yes, we got you. Let me finish this

712
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 7: point real quick now.

713
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 9: I was saying that.

714
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 14: I was saying that, you know, we'll see September thirteenth,

715
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 14: about the layoff versus Canelo being active.

716
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 13: It's not always a given. You know.

717
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 14: You got to look at where these guys are in

718
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 14: their careers. At thirty seven, thirty eight, Terre krawforer Man

719
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 14: needed that he may needed that rest that may have

720
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 14: given him, you know, refreshed him for this big camp

721
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 14: that he just had and then for the fight September thirteenth.

722
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 14: So we'll see, it's not always a given. One guy's

723
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 14: been after, one guy's been off. It remains to be saying,

724
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 14: but it's definitely a fair point and it's another variable

725
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 14: that goes into this matchup.

726
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 7: Well, it's good to see your face, my man.

727
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 9: And I'm just saying, right like Turkey al al Hikh

728
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 9: was not in the game in twenty seventeen when you

729
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 9: walked away, and I just feel like it's not at

730
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 9: all out of the realm of possibility. My informed speculation

731
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 9: is that there could be some fifty million dollar burger

732
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 9: throwing your way and I'm just paying it, you know. So,

733
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 9: I know you're in shape, and I think your kids

734
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 9: and everybody else will be really excited if we got

735
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 9: one more.

736
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Speaker 7: And I know Bud Crawford's all in too, so.

737
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 9: Crazier things have happened there is Hey, thank example, I'll

738
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 9: see you Wednesday.

739
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 7: Man, Thanks for a few minutes.

740
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 8: Thank you.

741
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 9: Andre soog Ward. You can follow him on Instagram at

742
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 9: Andre soog Ward. The documentary All the Smoke Fight Podcast

743
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 9: twenty twenty three memoir Killing the Image. But yeah, it

744
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 9: is interesting right because Bud Crawford was talking with Andre

745
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 9: Ward about his own retirement and the stage of Bud's career.

746
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 9: This was a conversation that happened about thirteen months ago,

747
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 9: and Bud said, when he retires, he's done. And then

748
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 9: Andre said, well, what if one hundred million dollars? And

749
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 9: then Bud said, and I retired, you know what I mean? So,

750
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 9: you know, one hundred million dollars to show like Kenny

751
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 9: Florian is in the pool immediately at the drug school,

752
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 9: you know what I mean.

753
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 7: So I don't like money talks. Yeah, well, you're a

754
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 7: smart guy.

755
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 10: You know how competitive fighters are, right, And it's like,

756
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 10: you know, there's the competition of it, and then there's

757
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 10: the opportunities. And now you know, the opportunities are are

758
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 10: plentiful right now with everything that's going on both in

759
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 10: boxing and m A and yeah, it's exciting stuff.

760
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 8: Man.

761
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 7: I should have I should have been born a little

762
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:38,479
Speaker 7: bit later, Buddy.

763
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Speaker 9: I'm telling you one thing that I did want to

764
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 9: get to with Andre that we did not get to.

765
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 9: So Joseph Morales, who just won the Ultimate Fighter at flyweight,

766
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 9: is a jiu jitsu coach at Sacramento State, where Andre

767
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 9: Ward is the general manager now of Sack State Boxing.

768
00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 9: So combat you and your I favors involved the first

769
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 9: university backed combat sports program in the country. And the

770
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 9: Sacramento State jiu jitsu players trained for the National Collegiate

771
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 9: Grapplers Association or National Collegiate Grappling Association. I think there

772
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 9: are actually competitions. And I know we touched on this

773
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 9: briefly a couple of weeks ago, but Ken Flow, I mean,

774
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 9: as a jiu jitsu guy, right, the fact that Andre

775
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 9: Ward is the general manager of sax State Boxing and

776
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 9: he got a UFC fighter coaching jiu jitsu and a

777
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 9: university backed combat sports program. It's nice to think about

778
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 9: where we might be in twenty five years if we

779
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 9: got that right now.

780
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 7: It's so cool, man. It so much has changed.

781
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 10: And the fact that you know, we could potentially have

782
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 10: this league of universities, you know, competing against each other

783
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 10: all over the country with grappling teams and it again,

784
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 10: it just gives them so much more opportunity, man, So

785
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 10: I love it.

786
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 8: Man.

787
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 10: It would have been cool to have the Boston College

788
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 10: Brazilian jiu jitsu right. Well, I don't think it's too late.

789
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 9: I mean, Keith Florian's in the in the area, you

790
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 9: know here go back in Massachusetts three hundred days a year.

791
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 9: But no, I do think that it is something that

792
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 9: is cool and good for Andre and Joseph and all

793
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 9: the people giving back because they're probably not getting rich

794
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 9: doing it. All right, I want to touch on a

795
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 9: few other things UFC Fight Night, Imavab, the Bojaalio related.

796
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 9: We'll then get to Ray Long Go and spin it

797
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 9: forward to not Ja. UFC also talks from boxing at

798
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 9: the tail end of the program as well. Mason Jones, Man,

799
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 9: I'm a big Mason Jones fan. And when he tells

800
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 9: you like, spin me around in Katar and I'll finish

801
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 9: another guy, like makes your promoter, makes you as a

802
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 9: promoter want to do just that. Would you make of

803
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 9: Mason Jones's win?

804
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 10: I mean, and and how about his unwillingness to take

805
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 10: the easy route? He was like, yeah, you know what,

806
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 10: I know, I can take you down and finish you,

807
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 10: but I'm just going to try to make this exciting

808
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 10: and and trade with you on the feet because I

809
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 10: know the fans would love it. And he goes out

810
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 10: and deliver action packed fights every single time he had

811
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 10: a scary round one. He was in trouble there but

812
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 10: did a great job of surviving off his back, defended

813
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 10: extremely well, in my opinion, got back to his feet

814
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 10: and just reset, And to me, it looked like Oki

815
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 10: was exhausted after that and couldn't believe that Mason survived

816
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 10: that onslaught And then it was Jones's turn to take over.

817
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 10: Started landing some awesome shots on the feet, started integrating

818
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 10: takedowns and ground and pound and submission attacks, and it.

819
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 7: Was his full mixed martial arts arsenal that was just superior.

820
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 10: And I thought it was an awesome performance and again

821
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 10: another part of my parlay that.

822
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 7: Was super excited about. Yeah, but yeah, it was awesome.

823
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 7: And he's a stud. Jones is a stud. I'm watching

824
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 7: him fight.

825
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 9: I think he's the poster boy for why I say

826
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 9: lightweight's the best division in the year.

827
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 7: Yes, right, Because isn't Mason Jones.

828
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 9: The Welshman a real problem for a lot of people

829
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 9: on any given set night. I mean, find me an

830
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 9: easy out, and there's not a lot of easy outs

831
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 9: in most of these divisions, I think, involving the men one,

832
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 9: twenty five through whatever, but find well, like, who's the

833
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 9: easiest out at fifty five and how many lightweights are

834
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 9: there exactly? I know there aren't a lot of heavyweights.

835
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 9: You see what Aunta Delia did to marching and Tabora.

836
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 9: Tom Aspinall said he couldn't possibly be happier for his

837
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 9: Croatian teammate. They got something going on there, aspinall BJJ

838
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 9: team huh.

839
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely, man, delis good dude.

840
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 9: It's been around for a long time. Yeah yeah yeah,

841
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 9: oh yeah, So all right, I have to get to this.

842
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 9: Kawe Fednandez by leg kicks over. Harry Hardwick, did you

843
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 9: see this?

844
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 8: I did not.

845
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 7: I missed about, dude.

846
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 10: I was gonna pick Fernandez to win that fight in

847
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 10: his original opponent, of course.

848
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 7: But he's really good, man, He's really good. He's one

849
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 7: of those.

850
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 10: Nobunyao guys who know how to kick, uh knows how

851
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 10: to kick, just like Josie ald back in the day.

852
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 7: Man, he's good man.

853
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 9: I might have Cody Chase the video Joe Rogan Experience

854
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 9: style right now, because Bro, Harry Hardwick, and this is

855
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 9: a man who I believe pined for a UFC career

856
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 9: at a Q and A on a microphone, former Cage

857
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 9: Warriors champion. If I'm not mistaken, he left on a wheelchair, Kenny.

858
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 9: I mean he got his legs completely shattered. I mean

859
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 9: far Jack Jenkins is proud Somewhere. I feel like there

860
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 9: has to be some sort of fracture in there. The

861
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 9: guy could barely stand up both legs at.

862
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 7: The end of the fight.

863
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 9: Visually spectacular if you're I know, it can be a

864
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 9: hard visual, right, But some of us MMA fans really

865
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 9: do enjoy the blood and some of the trauma. Remember

866
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 9: the DC fighters shirt trauma mmas E R A U

867
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Speaker 9: M m A. But Kenny, this was particularly traumatic for

868
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 9: mister Hartwick Cowie.

869
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 7: Like the damage, like the damage tattoo. Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 10: Well, I think if there's one thing that people are

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Speaker 7: Take kick it? M Oh geez, poor guy?

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Speaker 10: Can you even take a leg kick at MMA? That's

876
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 10: maybe the better question, and then maybe you can ask

877
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Speaker 9: It's nuts, right, Yeah, I have never taken one other

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Speaker 9: But I think it's Danny Chavez who's dying to give

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Speaker 9: We don't even know the name of the guy who

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Speaker 9: core So. In terms of the lightweight division, I don't

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00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 9: want to spend more than sixty seconds on this. Who

934
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Speaker 9: do you think is going to get tabbed for that

935
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 9: title fight? Our Monsaerkian, justin geege or Patti pimble I

936
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 9: don't care if your response is less than five seconds.

937
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 9: But it seems as though the Toputia camp has quickly

938
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 9: turned back rumors and reports that Geichie has the inside track.

939
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm gonna say Serukian. I'm gonna say Serukian. I

940
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 10: know that's not the most popular fight or sell the most,

941
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 10: but I think that's the best fight you can make.

942
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 10: If Patty Pimblet doesn't get the title fight. I think

943
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 10: perhaps you can surmise that Dana White just doesn't think

944
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 10: he has enough wins that he needs to get one

945
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 10: more win.

946
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 9: And I think it might just be as simple as that.

947
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 9: I think Geig's gonna get the fight. I think Geategy's

948
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 9: gonna get the fight. We'll see what happens. I see

949
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 9: him hitting pads instead of golf balls.

950
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 10: Well, he is the He's that happy medium between both

951
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 10: of those, because everybody loves watching Justin Geige fight.

952
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 7: A lot of people know who he is. Of course

953
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 7: he's a big star.

954
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 10: And yeah again, and I also think he'll be a

955
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 10: more exciting fight in some ways than Patty piplet So

956
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 10: or a more competitive fight.

957
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 7: So maybe he's that happy meeting that the UFC goes with.

958
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,959
Speaker 9: Tom Aspiral and Seaedele Gohan got together for a press

959
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 9: conference in Paris, one of the few places in the

960
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 9: world where Tommy Aspinall will be booed. I mean, how

961
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 9: revered is that man going to be? Sort of using

962
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 9: the John Jones situation to propel him, right, Like, there

963
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,439
Speaker 9: were some dark days for tom Aspinall and he still

964
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 9: hasn't fought, mind you, Right, He's been in camp for

965
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 9: seven hundred days or whatever the fuck it's been. I

966
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 9: know he fucking hurt his blades, but this man is

967
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 9: going to be a rock star when he returns. What

968
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 9: are your thoughts on seedle Ghan's chances? The odds makers

969
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 9: don't give him much. He has sort of talked about

970
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 9: the grappling now publicly, and he insists that he's going

971
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 9: to be ready for that if in fact the fight

972
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 9: calls for it. How competitive do you expect that heavyweight

973
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 9: championship fight to be next month?

974
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 10: On the feet, as far as striking goes, I'm a

975
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 10: big fan of Cyril Ghana. I think that he's extremely technical.

976
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 10: He's very good at keeping guys on the outside. He

977
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 10: has very good footwork, he's very athletic himself, one of

978
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 10: the few guys that can pose challenges in that realm

979
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 10: for someone like Aspinall.

980
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 7: But we all know where his vulnerability lies. It's on

981
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 7: the ground.

982
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 10: It's with his grappling, and of course Aspinall very very

983
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 10: good there, not only with his grounded pound and positioning,

984
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 10: but with a submission game, and I think that's where

985
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 10: Cyril gun is definitely going to have his hands full.

986
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 10: But even in regards to speed. The speed of Aspinall

987
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 10: is just insane for a heavyweight. But just to add

988
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 10: another little perspective, John, I would say, now I agree

989
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,959
Speaker 10: with everything you said in regards to all the fans

990
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 10: that are going to be behind Aspinall, but that could

991
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 10: also lead to pressure. That could also lead to a

992
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 10: lot of pressure for Aspinall. All eyes are going to

993
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 10: be on him. Now how he handles that is going

994
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 10: to be interesting as well, because I'm not sure he

995
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 10: really had that as much.

996
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 7: You know, since this Jones drama, I.

997
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 9: Can't think of a more pressure pack spot in UFC history.

998
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 9: Yeah at John Annik, Oh my god, he's getting hyperbolic.

999
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 9: But honestly, Kenny, right, just imagine Tom Aspinall, after all

1000
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 9: the John Jones business gets knocked out by sea.

1001
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 7: It o gom Weirder things have happened, especially this weird

1002
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 7: fucking sport, right. Yeah, more, it's crazy, It's crazy. It's

1003
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 7: really good he is.

1004
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 9: But there is so much pressure, undeniably on Tom Aspinall.

1005
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 9: But I just think he eats it. I just think

1006
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 9: he eats pressure. I just think he's he's the man.

1007
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 9: And uh but I think it's the most competitive heavyweight

1008
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 9: fight that we can put together, even if you know

1009
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 9: Alexander Volkovan is full back tattoo or richly deserving of

1010
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 9: this opportunity. So do you think we get John Jones

1011
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 9: or Cotton McGregor at the White House?

1012
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 8: Right?

1013
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 9: You get five hundred bucks if you can answer yes

1014
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 9: or no correctly. But one of them has to compete.

1015
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 9: And by the way, what are these reports June twenty

1016
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 9: twenty six, How do we not do it? July fourth,

1017
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 9: twenty twenty six on that Saturday. I guess maybe that's

1018
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 9: asking too much. I don't know, Kenny for five hundred bucks,

1019
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 9: do you think one of those guys competes on that show?

1020
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 7: I do not.

1021
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 9: So they got to be They got to have their

1022
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 9: number called for the show and also compete, right like

1023
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 9: you have to have their bout announce.

1024
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 7: But they also show up to follow through.

1025
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 9: As though Raymond long Ago might be saddled up, let's uh,

1026
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 9: let's get to the raid long Ago. But no, not yet, Okay,

1027
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 9: I have plenty of discuss so yes, so I think

1028
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 9: I think Connor.

1029
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 7: Might fight at the White House. So I don't know

1030
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 7: if John Jones.

1031
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 9: Regrets potentially if this is true, turning down thirty million

1032
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 9: dollars or if he just really wants to be a

1033
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 9: part of something that is truly once in a lifetime.

1034
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 9: I think the White House has much more once in

1035
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 9: a lifetime than sphere, right, although Craig Bore sorry, boss.

1036
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 7: Might be like, dude, we'll never call back to spare, But.

1037
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I think you got a better chance

1038
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 9: of getting Connor than John. And you know, if Dana

1039
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 9: wants to lean into stubbornness and not put John on

1040
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 9: the card, you know, because maybe he said one in

1041
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 9: a billion, then who knows. Uh, But I think maybe

1042
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 9: you see Connor McGregor. I just don't know if the

1043
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 9: Chandler fight is the one I want to see. It

1044
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 9: waits seven and a half to eight years for the

1045
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 9: Michael Chandler Connor McGregor fight, Like, it's not about of

1046
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 9: consequence at this point in time. And I say that

1047
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 9: with all due respect to Michael Chandler what he's trying

1048
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 9: to cap the fucking ultimate fighter.

1049
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 7: I mean, what do we know.

1050
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 9: Wouldn't you agree that if Connor McGregor fights at the

1051
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 9: White House it's Nathan Diz.

1052
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 7: Oh my goodness, that would be crazy. Listen.

1053
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 10: I think at this point you kind of have to

1054
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 10: make a fight that that makes sense. And I think

1055
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 10: that the Nate DZ fight would would make more sense

1056
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 10: than the Chandler fight. And you know, both those guys

1057
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 10: huge names. Although John Jones, out of all the fighters

1058
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 10: that I've seen, he's got the best.

1059
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 7: Trump dance, so he's got going for yeah yeah.

1060
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 9: So but you know, at this point, you could go McGregor, hoofy.

1061
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 9: Hoofy's no longer on this championship trajectory, right if they're

1062
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 9: mirror images.

1063
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 7: I see a guy on a championship trajectory right now.

1064
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 7: Look at this guy, I see it.

1065
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 12: I see a guy on a trajectory to death.

1066
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 8: Right, that does matter with you? Nice way to go.

1067
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 12: When I talked to Cody, I thought the time was

1068
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 12: flipped the other way, and you gotta kid me.

1069
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 8: I got off the plane at one.

1070
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 7: You sound like crap, right, what's going on?

1071
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 8: Man?

1072
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 7: Oh, it's got the Vegas okay, all right, but.

1073
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 8: I took I took the late flight and then it

1074
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 8: got the laid Oh my god.

1075
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 9: So Cody demanded that you wake up to do the podcast.

1076
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 9: If you're ever in a situation like this, you can

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Speaker 9: come on the show. In the latest possible window taping today,

1078
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 9: let me finish. If you don't mind, you can come

1079
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 9: on the show in the latest possible a window or

1080
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 9: just tell us to pound sand. Now you're making me

1081
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 9: feel feel badly that you had to set an alarm

1082
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 9: clock for this stupid show.

1083
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 8: No, no, I got I got to weigh in anyway,

1084
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 8: So I got to weigh in, and they got another interview,

1085
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 8: so I gotta get up anyway.

1086
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 9: What's what's the other what's the other interview?

1087
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 7: Last shirt in the drawer?

1088
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 9: Hey, what's the other media you're doing later today?

1089
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 8: Huh? I got to do something for uh for the

1090
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 8: UFC with Sarah and I don't know what it is.

1091
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 8: Something I don't know, but that just show for it's

1092
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 8: something that they put together.

1093
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 7: He's given me some ammunition, Kenny, Right, it's something that

1094
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 7: they're putting together.

1095
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 8: It's something good, nothing crazy.

1096
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 7: But okay, what else?

1097
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 8: What have we got? Guys?

1098
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 14: Well?

1099
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 7: No, I was on.

1100
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 9: I was on Matt Sarah's podcast last week and he said,

1101
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 9: you know you see Ray more than I I do.

1102
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 9: And I said, oh, you can come crash his Ray

1103
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 9: long go minute every anytime you want. But no, he

1104
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 9: said he would love to he's done a lot, but no, uh,

1105
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 9: wake up out there, Welcome to Vegas, Raymond.

1106
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 8: Nice.

1107
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 7: But you did his.

1108
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 12: Podcast though I didn't even know that. Did they ever get.

1109
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 10: I think they did?

1110
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 9: But yeah, no, he was uh he was bemoaning the back.

1111
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 9: Why would Kenny watch me on UFC Unfiltered? He wouldn't

1112
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 9: be caught half.

1113
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 12: We lost you, that's what I got you. Sorry, I

1114
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 12: thought you did his podcast.

1115
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 9: Oh no, I did the UFC Unfiltered podcast. I got right,

1116
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 9: all right, So it's good to see you. Thanks for

1117
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 9: waking up. Well, we won't take much of your time.

1118
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 9: I do have some would you rather's time permitting, and

1119
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 9: I would like to begin if I could, with the

1120
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 9: UFC fight night in Paris. Noasordini, Mavov Ben Wassantini, just

1121
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 9: like to sort of wind you up and let you go.

1122
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 9: If there was anything that was a major takeaway for you.

1123
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 8: Uh, The major take away from me was I thought

1124
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 8: Rufie was almost a lock in that fight, and that

1125
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 8: guy went through him like he didn't give it. He

1126
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 8: didn't get the message that he was supposed to lose

1127
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 8: the fight, you know what I mean. But that was

1128
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 8: a that was It's not even a not that he lost,

1129
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 8: it's the way he lost, Like you know, I mean, look,

1130
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 8: I think at the end of the day, that guy

1131
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 8: goes back, he makes the adjustments because he's definitely a

1132
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 8: super talented guy. You could see that. But he was

1133
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 8: just looking for one shot, Kenny, and his timing was good.

1134
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 8: It just wasn't enough. Never put together a combo. Uh

1135
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 8: he I think he got caught with that head kick first,

1136
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 8: and the kind of set the tone up for what

1137
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 8: was coming, which was, you know, like not complete case.

1138
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 12: Yes, but he was just he just walked him down.

1139
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 2: Man.

1140
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 8: Man, when you're when you're intent on getting what you want,

1141
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 8: that's the way it looks, you know. So I was

1142
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 8: that fight blew me away, you know, really that fight

1143
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 8: because I was I was pretty iron roofyet I thought

1144
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 8: he had all the makings for like a like a

1145
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 8: big talent, but.

1146
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 12: He can't be incomplete in this game, Holy Crow. That

1147
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 12: was that was crassy.

1148
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 7: I'm with you on that, man. I was taken by

1149
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 7: surprise as well.

1150
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 10: Ray what do you think about a mov off And

1151
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 10: was that enough for you to say this is a

1152
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 10: guy that could potentially beat someone like a Jamaya.

1153
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 8: I mean, it was a You know, look, I honestly,

1154
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 8: I'm gonna tell you something. I only saw a couple

1155
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 8: of rounds in a fight, okay, but what I saw

1156
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 8: was all striking, and you know that's not gonna work

1157
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 8: with the other guy, you know, if he can get

1158
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 8: back to his feed five times. But I think we thought,

1159
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 8: uh Drics was gonna do that. It's gonna be the

1160
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 8: same thing. What would get There's nothing in that fight

1161
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 8: that would lead me to believe it's going to be

1162
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 8: any different, right, you know, maybe the footwork could play

1163
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 8: into it, or he's got more.

1164
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 12: You know, he's got quicker hands. I mean, he definitely

1165
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:13,720
Speaker 12: looked good. Is he sharp?

1166
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 7: Can't he stop? The takedown? As the question for you

1167
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 7: right to take that?

1168
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 8: And I thought, like again, I thought Drick was going

1169
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 8: to do way better in that department, and he really

1170
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 8: just he just got squashed. So yeah, I think it's

1171
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 8: the same fight.

1172
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 9: Hey, I wanted to talk to you just briefly if

1173
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 9: I could, about modestus pokowskis, but more in just a

1174
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 9: bigger picture, in terms of like a fighter being valiant

1175
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 9: and determined and focused and dealing with a time and

1176
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 9: a career where maybe you think you might have to

1177
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 9: go do something else to make money, you know, modestas

1178
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 9: Pokowskis had a devastating knee injury, he was cut by

1179
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 9: the UFC, and now he's won four in a row

1180
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 9: in the light heavyweight division. His dad's there every step

1181
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 9: of the way. And I think, for me, this is

1182
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 9: like the best part of the job that I get

1183
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 9: to do, is right, is seeing a guy like that

1184
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 9: that maybe is on the brink of having to go

1185
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 9: get a nine to five job and now might make

1186
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 9: some real money in the UFCIT.

1187
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 7: And I just think it's great.

1188
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 8: I listen, if what you're saying, what you're the way

1189
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 8: you phrased it is fantastic.

1190
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 12: But will he make real money?

1191
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 8: I don't know.

1192
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 12: I don't know what he's making that. This is the

1193
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 12: tricky part of these guys.

1194
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 8: Sometimes you're better off getting the ninth to five, you

1195
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 8: know what I mean at the beginning, because what if

1196
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 8: you're gonna make you know, so he had one big

1197
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 8: payday and then he doesn't fight for a little bit

1198
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 8: and he's got you know, like again when you ended

1199
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 8: up over the years, I mean, you're gonna make John,

1200
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 8: You're gonna make real money in the sport to like

1201
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 8: not avoid the night to fight those ninth to five

1202
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 8: guys with a pension, and they do really well, they

1203
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 8: got benefits, you know, it's the the end of the day.

1204
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 8: They always boil down. I look at him now, because

1205
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 8: I'm old. I look at guys that, you know, well,

1206
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 8: I didn't even think he was blaking the world on

1207
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 8: fight guys set for life, you know what I mean.

1208
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 8: He's doing what he wants to do. So it's a

1209
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 8: really tricky part for these guys. I'd really have to

1210
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 8: know what he's making, you know what I mean. And yeah,

1211
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 8: if he got cut, if he got cut from New

1212
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 8: yf City and he's back for four fights, I don't

1213
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 8: think he's got a good contract. That doesn't sound like

1214
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 8: to me. So he's he has to break into like

1215
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 8: the top five to do what you're talking about, I believe,

1216
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 8: and I could be one million per one, But that's.

1217
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 7: Weird, right.

1218
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 9: I think it's a I think it's really important balance

1219
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 9: that you're that you're offering up.

1220
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 8: So it's like you have a want of like for

1221
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 8: the guys starting out, you know what are they get

1222
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 8: twelve and twelve, fourteen or fourteen? You know what I mean,

1223
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 8: you have a win, you have two wins, three wins,

1224
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 8: and then maybe at lost you go backwards and you

1225
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 8: at the end of three years you average it out

1226
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 8: and he could have been making that money.

1227
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1228
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 9: No, I guess I just feel like Modestis was at

1229
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 9: a really dark, bad place, and now he is not

1230
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 9: only able to prolong the dream, but maybe really realize

1231
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 9: the dream, you know, get ranked and potentially main event.

1232
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 9: You know, it's just sort of cool to see you.

1233
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 8: Know that beautiful. That's all you know, that would be

1234
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 8: you know, and again, John, I'm we're talking from guys

1235
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 8: that live, you know, New York. You're in you know,

1236
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 8: Connecticut with you know, you might be somewhere else in

1237
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 8: the world, and maybe the money is good. I'm just saying, right, No,

1238
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 8: of course, very very tricky. Oh yeah, I see these

1239
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 8: guys and then you say, all of a sudden, you're

1240
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 8: going to be thirty seven years old. You got to

1241
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 8: get a job, you know. Yeah, yeah, it's it's yeah.

1242
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 9: I just I just moved to the New York border

1243
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 9: from South Florida, so I know exactly what you're talking about. Uh,

1244
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 9: everything is more expensive, and I'm not just talking about

1245
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 9: the taxes my goodness, what was I think moving up?

1246
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 8: John?

1247
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 9: Like, my paycheck is a lot less.

1248
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 12: I hope, I hope the property taxes aren't as bid

1249
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 12: as they.

1250
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 8: Are on Long Islands. You're screwed.

1251
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 9: Well, I do live in Connecticut, and yeah, I think

1252
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 9: maybe we got a low mill rate.

1253
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1254
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 9: Anyway, I'd like to get to a few other items.

1255
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 7: Fight.

1256
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 9: So Frankie Edgar is returning to combat sports. He's going

1257
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 9: to take on Jimmy rivera bare knuckle boxing and there

1258
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 9: are a couple different things to this right now. Frankie

1259
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 9: Edgar's lovely wife, Renee. I love her, although she almost

1260
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 9: got me in trouble because she asked for my credential

1261
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 9: once and I gave it to her. And Joe Williams,

1262
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 9: our great security guy, was ready to kill me. But Frankie,

1263
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 9: I guess, in terms of his family, maybe some people

1264
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 9: had some reluctance when he decided that he was going

1265
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 9: to do this. But I wanted to get you both

1266
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 9: of your thoughts on this right because the financial part

1267
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 9: is like, I don't know what Frankie's getting paid, but hey,

1268
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 9: if they're giving me, you know, three hundred and fifty

1269
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 9: thousand dollars to go fight Jimmy Rivera. You know, it's

1270
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 9: hard to realize that money elsewhere, right, yes, with the

1271
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 9: podcast or commentary or a gem or these other different things.

1272
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 9: But then there's also just the competitor, and FRANKI Edgar

1273
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 9: is the ultimate competitor, and he might just want to

1274
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 9: go box Jimmy Rivera after a few years away from

1275
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 9: the game. Right So, Kenny, there could be two people

1276
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 9: in your head talking to you and Ray, but Ken Fla,

1277
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 9: I'd like to start with you. I mean not to

1278
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 9: psychoanalyze Frankie's individual decision, but it's just hard to step

1279
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 9: it away with finality.

1280
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 10: It is, especially if things didn't end exactly the way

1281
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 10: you wanted to write. So you have the two things

1282
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 10: that we talked about earlier when you were talking to

1283
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 10: andre Ward. There's the money, the opportunity of making money

1284
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 10: when maybe haven't made that same amount of money for

1285
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 10: a couple of years. That sounds enticing. And of course

1286
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 10: there's the competitive fire within you to say, well, I've

1287
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 10: had some time off, I'm seeing things a little differently.

1288
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 10: I have a different perspective, you know, I'm feeling fresh,

1289
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 10: I feel good again. What if I went out there

1290
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 10: and did just one more and ended it on a

1291
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 10: good note, right, And that's that's always the alluring problem

1292
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 10: with these fight opportunities is.

1293
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 7: I can just give me one more.

1294
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 10: I want to undo what happened maybe in my last

1295
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 10: fight or do something a little bit better. And you know,

1296
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 10: I hope it goes great for Frankie. Frankie is awesome.

1297
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 10: But for me, this guy has proven himself, you know,

1298
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 10: ten times over. He has nothing left to prove. If

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01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 10: it's for money, if it's to kind of maybe satisfy

1300
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 10: one last go for some competitive spirit, and God bless him,

1301
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 10: that's awesome.

1302
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 7: I just hope he doesn't get hurt.

1303
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, one million percent. Listen, I'm almost gonna say

1304
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 8: I'm surprised this didn't happen soon because Frankie's such a

1305
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 8: competitive guy that I'm glad he was able to stay

1306
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 8: out this long, so, you know, maybe a one off

1307
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 8: at this point, you know, he's back with Mark. I

1308
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 8: think that's a great story. Yeah, I mean it's good

1309
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 8: these guys like you don't know if they're fighting for

1310
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 8: the money or if the money was too enticing where

1311
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 8: they have to say no.

1312
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 12: But I think the just to switch gears.

1313
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 8: I think you wast you were talking andre Ward today

1314
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 8: because that's a guy that was grounded, and he's a

1315
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 8: guy who listened to because he got out of that

1316
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 8: sport happy as hell and I don't even know he cried.

1317
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 8: Could have made a ship ton more money. But it

1318
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 8: gets to a point where you really need that internal

1319
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:23,439
Speaker 8: dialogue and you got to be grounded, Uh, to really

1320
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 8: step away. I went through with somebody in the Jym

1321
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 8: Sarah after the light of fight. That was it. He

1322
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 8: made the choice and he never looked back, and he

1323
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 8: wasn't gonna do it. I think there's guys that get

1324
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 8: lead by example in this category that I think of

1325
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 8: work talking to and listening to andre Ward. I mean

1326
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 8: I watched that documentary. I was blown away by that guy.

1327
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 8: You know, very intelligent, good speaker. Again, it's it's it's

1328
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 8: it's what you're do.

1329
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 12: You have a healthy relationship with money, that's the that's

1330
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 12: the key.

1331
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 9: And uh, yepailed it. You absolutely nailed it.

1332
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's the problem. I deal with a lot of people.

1333
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 8: I don't know, man. I mean, I like, again, I'm

1334
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 8: with Kenny. I I'd like to see him do it.

1335
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 8: If it's a competitive thing. Get in, don't get hurt. Uh,

1336
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 8: you know, at least he knows Jimmy Rivera. But Jimmy,

1337
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 8: I don't think is as beat up as Frankie was

1338
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 8: when he got out and Jimmy Jimmy ken box.

1339
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,479
Speaker 7: But but it makes sense, right, It's like two guys

1340
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 7: from the New York, New Jersey area.

1341
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 10: You know, it's not like they're they're you know, Frankie's

1342
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 10: not fighting the roll, you know, undefeated pro boxer and

1343
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 10: the you know what I mean, it's a it's a

1344
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 10: fight that makes more sense.

1345
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 7: So to me, I don't have so much of a

1346
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 7: problem with it if that. Yeah, yeah, they're just not

1347
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 7: wearing clubs is all.

1348
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 9: You know, Right, it's hilarious.

1349
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 7: Bone on bone is all.

1350
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 9: Hey, Andre Warre, real quick, ray, he's gonna be in

1351
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 9: the broadcast booth for Canelo Crawford.

1352
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 8: Oh beautiful, really good.

1353
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 9: And you want to talk about leaving money on the table, right,

1354
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 9: I mean he left tens of millions on the table.

1355
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 9: And he has recently mentioned the name Anthony Joshua. Love you, Andre,

1356
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 9: Hopefully I'm not speaking out of school, but no, he

1357
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 9: mentioned the name Anthony Joshua. And you know how much

1358
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 9: could andre Ward make singularly for that fight against Anthony

1359
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 9: Joshua and the current climate in boxing, I think a lot, right, And.

1360
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 12: What put him in that position, John is he walked away.

1361
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 8: When he walked away, so he think, you know, he

1362
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 8: could get big money coming back. It's just like I'm

1363
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 8: sure it kuld be to get a meageic. Kabib wants

1364
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 8: to fight what people would be willing to pay him.

1365
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 8: But again, when you're can tell with your life.

1366
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 9: And well, right, if ten million in net worth is enough? Right,

1367
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 9: I mean I think Kabib might be you know, fifty

1368
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 9: sixty Habib's like for Kabie. I just think that, Yeah,

1369
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 9: I do think it has to do with your relationship

1370
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 9: with money. But I think that andre Ward in twenty

1371
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 9: twenty two wasn't necessarily thinking about it and now you

1372
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 9: know his friend, but probably getting seventy million to shows, Yeah, yeah.

1373
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 8: Why not?

1374
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 12: He keep He definitely did the right thing with his body.

1375
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 8: It looks like, yeah, I say, Andrew Woods in Super Intelligent,

1376
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 8: it's a really good fight. I think he could set

1377
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 8: himself up for one big pay day and that I

1378
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 8: don't think there's a downside.

1379
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 9: So tell me about your last forty eight hours or so.

1380
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 9: I'd imagine you were not expected that you would be

1381
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 9: in Las Vegas right now.

1382
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 8: And I wasn't expected to be in Las Vegas right now.

1383
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 8: So Freddie got the.

1384
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 9: Cool Freddie Vidal or videll.

1385
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 8: Vidal, I guess, but Freddie called Freddie b obviously, because

1386
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 8: I can't pronounce anybody's names.

1387
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 12: Everybody name, you know, ten flow Ja.

1388
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 7: So tell us a little bit about Freddy. What happened

1389
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 7: he got the short notice? Call wheels up.

1390
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 8: Very sure and knows that. We only say it was

1391
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 8: last Sunday because I took Freddy and a couple of

1392
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 8: guys to the hills to run the hills, and there

1393
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 8: wasn't guaranteed yet, but somebody had fallen out, and I

1394
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 8: guess his manager had called him, and you know, he

1395
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 8: wants to jump on the opportunity, you know. So he's

1396
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 8: a really good kid, and I'm excited for him. So

1397
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 8: we all just jump on a plane and came.

1398
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 12: And that's basically that's the list for the last week.

1399
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 8: It started by Tuesday, I think he was gone, and

1400
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 8: then we started booking off flights.

1401
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 9: And where do they have you right now? Where you're

1402
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 9: sent the station.

1403
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 8: There you are.

1404
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 7: There you are.

1405
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 12: If anybody wants to come over and stab me. Well,

1406
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 12: he just asked me what I'm wearing?

1407
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 8: Don't know, but.

1408
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 7: Hey, can I have two more minutes with you?

1409
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 8: Sure?

1410
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 7: Would you rather.

1411
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 9: See John Jones or Connor McGregor compete at the White House?

1412
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 4: Uh?

1413
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 8: Conor McGregor. Wow?

1414
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 9: I mean, okay, that is not very patriotic of you?

1415
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 12: Well patriot? What the other guy's a patriot?

1416
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 8: No?

1417
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 9: Sure, Ray, would you rather get your wisdom teeth pulled

1418
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 9: or your butt cheeks pierced? Now the piercing you could

1419
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 9: take out, right, so it's just some temporary pain.

1420
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 12: Pierce my butt cheeks. I don't think I'll feel the thing, John.

1421
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 9: All right, Yeah, there you go. I bet just numb. Hey,

1422
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 9: Ken Foe, I would get my my butt cheeks pierced

1423
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 9: and then just take it out, Just deal with the

1424
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 9: pain as opposed to the wisdom teeth and the gaws

1425
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 9: and everything else. Kenny, do you not have an answer

1426
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:54,479
Speaker 9: to the question?

1427
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 11: You know, you know what?

1428
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 12: You guys should get your butt cheeks pierced together, That's

1429
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 12: what I.

1430
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 8: Ray to your left cheek, and then you could stay

1431
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 8: stay together like you want to be you'll be happy.

1432
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 9: There's no denying we would that would help us happy.

1433
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 8: You thought of this before?

1434
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 9: I think, Oh my gosh, just this morning, but a

1435
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 9: lot this morning I have thought about.

1436
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 8: That's my question.

1437
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 12: Would you rather get your foot cheeks peas or your

1438
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 12: cheeks pias?

1439
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 8: What is it? John?

1440
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 7: Oh gosh, I'm crying. Correct this guy out of here.

1441
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 7: The first one? No, No, I can't let him leave yet.

1442
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 9: The first one I don't want to get my I

1443
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 9: did not with Kenny.

1444
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 1: I do.

1445
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 8: Kenny? What about you?

1446
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 7: Yeah? I think that's a solo mission right there? Yeah yeah, yeah,

1447
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 7: all right, real question, Just check and make sure you

1448
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 7: guys righta? All right?

1449
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 9: I got three more quick questions. Okay, oh wow man?

1450
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,839
Speaker 9: Well no, the last one's going to be Canelo Alvarez

1451
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 9: Bud Crawford.

1452
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 7: Who do you like? Okay?

1453
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 9: So, but first, would you rather be controlled by a

1454
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 9: mantis shrimp for a day and be forced to watch

1455
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 9: him make stupid shrimp decisions on your behalf or be

1456
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 9: the most wanted pirate on all the seven seas for

1457
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 9: a month in the seventeen hundreds?

1458
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 8: Wow? Oh, man, I like the pirate thing. Let's go.

1459
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, you'd be in your element.

1460
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 8: I was always about to be a swash buffalo. Let's

1461
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 8: do it.

1462
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 7: And you sound you sound like a pirate today?

1463
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 8: Oh look, can I go get a drink of water?

1464
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1465
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1466
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 13: Who do you like?

1467
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 9: Canelo Alvarez is the two to one favorite or so

1468
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 9: against Bud Crawford. Who wins the mega fight?

1469
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 8: I got to go with the bigger guy and go

1470
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 8: with Canelo and then.

1471
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 9: John Lord Silva, Diego Lopez featherweight main event, nocha uf

1472
01:09:58,920 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 9: San Antonio, Texas.

1473
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 7: Who do you love?

1474
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 8: You know, I'm gonna say, you know, it's funny, I'm

1475
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 8: gonna say Jean Silva. Right, but after watching what happened, right,

1476
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 8: guys could be switching game planes. I don't know, but

1477
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go with.

1478
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 12: Here's the interesting part just from watching Roofie, definitely that

1479
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 12: both one punch snipers, right, they wait, they wait, and

1480
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,560
Speaker 12: they're accurate. Even Roofie even though he lost when you

1481
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,560
Speaker 12: saw he tried them with the up elbow that his

1482
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 12: timing was perfect, just wasn't enough to stop him and

1483
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 12: then the guy would grab him and then yeah, yeah,

1484
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 12: no plane, big you know what I mean?

1485
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 8: So Silver is the same way, uh Ken Lopez pressure

1486
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 8: him he takes a good shot. I don't know. I'm

1487
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 8: excited for that face. Yea, that silver is on a

1488
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 8: good roll. The other guy's got way better experience with people.

1489
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 8: I don't know he's got the better fights. I don't

1490
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 8: think it's a lot. After watching this week, I'm not

1491
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 8: as sure as I was last week.

1492
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's well put out as usual. Hey, thanks for

1493
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 9: making time for us, but I know it's been a

1494
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 9: challenging couple of days. All the best on Tuesday night.

1495
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 8: Thanks guys, and I'm sorry it was a little uh torch.

1496
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 7: Go get some water dressed up ray, I'll talk to

1497
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 7: you guys.

1498
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 9: Make it by bike pleasures ours very long ago minute

1499
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:25,600
Speaker 9: still unsponsored here on the Attic and Florian podcast. I

1500
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 9: don't know that there's that connective tissue there with Sean

1501
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 9: Lord Silva and Mauricio Rufie in totality. I mean, John

1502
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 9: Lord Silva will choke you the fuck unconscious, among other things.

1503
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 10: I think he's the better grappler out of those guys

1504
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 10: for sure. I think his grappling is a bit different,

1505
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 10: and I think his striking is a bit different as well.

1506
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 9: So yeah, all right, Well we're about ten minutes or

1507
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 9: so away from these guys making main event predictions. But

1508
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 9: before we get there, fall is here, folks, Chris Bear, football,

1509
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 9: maybe a bonfire or two. But if you're like most guys,

1510
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 9: you're still and hard work and yeah that means sweat

1511
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 9: still don't need to let body odor sideline you. Mando

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Speaker 9: All right, Well, we will rifle through some of these predictions.

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Speaker 9: your Saturday look like with these two back to back

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Speaker 9: Is this like, hey, Erica Petrie, like you're going to

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Speaker 7: Or what that's every Saturday. Man, she knows, she knows

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Speaker 8: Well.

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Speaker 9: Hopefully you and the TV have your health this weekend.

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Speaker 9: Today's main event challenge for No Cha UFC is presented

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1561
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 9: predict one preliminary fight today in the strawweight division Tatiana

1562
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 9: Suarez minus four to twenty five a Mandoleamos plus three thirty.

1563
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 9: So this is not the featured prelim, Guys, there will

1564
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:41,719
Speaker 9: be two prelims after recent world title challenger Tatiana Suarez

1565
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 9: compete in San Antonio. I'm not sure if this speaks

1566
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 9: to a promotional expectation as to how this fight might

1567
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 9: play out, a promotional expectation that wasn't fulfilled in terms

1568
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 9: of her performance against Joan way Lee. I don't know

1569
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 9: how intentional this is, but very surprising card Spot briy

1570
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 9: for Suarez didn't have much for Jeong Way Lee. Perhaps

1571
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 9: a more handleable challenge here against another former title challenger,

1572
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 9: a mount of Lemos.

1573
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 7: Who do you like? Yeah, really weird card spot. I thought,

1574
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 7: I don't want to say it's a punishment by the UFC,

1575
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 7: but she was very flat in her title performance. She

1576
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 7: learned twelve thirteen strikes. You know, she's stuck in there

1577
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 7: five rounds. There's moment she could have maybe quit or whatever,

1578
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 7: gave up, but she didn't. That's a learning experience. I'm

1579
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 7: still high in Squerez. I think she's gonna rebound well

1580
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 7: here against Lemos. I think Lemos is working on her grappling.

1581
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 7: She took Lucinda down three times, would not let listend

1582
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 7: to up, basically grapple the entire fight. So she's working

1583
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 7: on that part of her game. But this is a specialist.

1584
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 7: This is a female that's been wrestling and grappling her

1585
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 7: whole life. She has a nasty guillotine chokes, has other

1586
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 7: smissions as well. Yeah, I think Suarez is gonna be

1587
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 7: bouncing back here. I think hopefully she comes in in

1588
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 7: my opinion, hopefully she comes in a little pissed off,

1589
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 7: Like what I'm I just fought for the title. I'm

1590
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 7: on the prelims now, Okay, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna

1591
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,560
Speaker 7: take a fucking neck home with me. The numbers a

1592
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 7: little wide for me, if I'm being honest, you thinks.

1593
01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 7: I do think Lemos is a viable contender, so the

1594
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 7: line on our Suarez is not attractive. However, I do

1595
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 7: like Suarrez in this fight.

1596
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 9: Yeah, Kenny, I think the betting line speaks to Lemosh's age.

1597
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 9: She's thirty eight, She's in fantastic shape, but I do

1598
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 9: think that that is reflective in the number. She did

1599
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 9: also fight John Wayley for the title in our native Boston, Massachusetts.

1600
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 9: That was back in twenty twenty three, and she's two

1601
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 9: and one since, wins over Mackenzie Dern Yes me and

1602
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 9: Lucindo more recently at UFC three thirteen. Interesting fight here

1603
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 9: at strawaight, Suarez and Lemos ken FLA.

1604
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 7: Who do you like?

1605
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1606
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 13: It is.

1607
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 10: I think a lot of it comes down to what

1608
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 10: Suarez we see and how she bounces back off of

1609
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 10: this loss. You know, is this a fight where she

1610
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 10: is now not very confident with her takedown ability, maybe

1611
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 10: unsure of what to do, you know, maybe a little

1612
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 10: more hesitant on the feet based on what happened in

1613
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 10: her last fight, or does she come out pissed off

1614
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 10: like Brian was saying, and very motivated and looking to

1615
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 10: kind of erase what happened. I think we'll see Suarez back.

1616
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 10: I think she, you know, a woman who knows how

1617
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 10: to come back from adversity. I think we'll see her

1618
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 10: very sharp and you know, although Lemos isn't too bad

1619
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 10: on the ground herself, I think she's most dangerous when

1620
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 10: she gets top position. When she's on her back, though,

1621
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 10: she'll throw up some submissions, but she's not the most

1622
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 10: dangerous in that position, and certainly not again someone like Suarez.

1623
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 10: So I like Swarz in this spot. I think Swartz

1624
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 10: is gonna use her wrestling to utilize ground and pound.

1625
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 10: I'm not sure she gets a finish, but I'm pretty

1626
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 10: sure she gets the win here.

1627
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 9: All right, let us get to the noch UFC main

1628
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:33,520
Speaker 9: card now. Alexander Hernandez finished Chase Hooper on August sixteenth,

1629
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 9: four weeks later, getting back in there in his native

1630
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 9: San Antonio. Draftking sports Book doesn't have the betting line

1631
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 9: out as yet, but it looks as though Hernanda is

1632
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 9: going to be about minus one fifty and Diego Fajita

1633
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:47,560
Speaker 9: plus one twenty. So quick turn as you know for

1634
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 9: the Great eight Hernandez bri a graduate of the University

1635
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:54,719
Speaker 9: of Texas at San Antonio, would be a huge career

1636
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:56,879
Speaker 9: moment for him, right if he can put a capstone

1637
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 9: on this winning streak four in a row and do

1638
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 9: it at home. What do you make of this one

1639
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 9: at one fifty five BP?

1640
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 7: I like this fight, And yeah, I hadn't looked up

1641
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 7: the line yet, John when you were sending them, but

1642
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,759
Speaker 7: I priced them about minus one fifty minus one seventy,

1643
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 7: especially after his last performance Gains super The biggest concern

1644
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 7: for Alex Fernandez.

1645
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 8: Is his mind.

1646
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 7: Can he get out of his own way?

1647
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 8: Right?

1648
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 7: There's a moment there where he played the villain card

1649
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 7: and Donald Seroni kind of was like, Okay, you're not

1650
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 7: that guy power, right, and he kind of had to

1651
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 7: readjust he switched camps and everything, and he's a talented

1652
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 7: guy with some real power. I mean, the Chase Hooper

1653
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 7: punch is just was was flawless. His movement was really good.

1654
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 7: He would not let Chase Hooper swarm him and get

1655
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 7: ahold of him. And I was dead dead the right wrong?

1656
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 7: How do you say that?

1657
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 8: On that fight?

1658
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 7: And for Diego is is a little bit older guy,

1659
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 7: but he's exciting. He's got good ground game, good grappling,

1660
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 7: good stand up as well. But he's a little bit slow,

1661
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 7: like he puts combinations together, but they're not the fastest

1662
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 7: in the world. And I think Hernandez likes to pot

1663
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 7: shot real big load up shots, and I think that's

1664
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 7: going to clip Diego here. I see a fun fight.

1665
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 7: I like the low number on Hernandez's lung. As it

1666
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 7: stays that low he gets over two hundred, I started

1667
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:08,679
Speaker 7: getting a little worried. However, I like alex Hernandez here.

1668
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 9: Ken flow Diego Fajeda is a man, he is forty.

1669
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 9: Hernandez is thirty two, pretty sung career for Fajita ten

1670
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 9: UFC wins, good strength of schedule. What do you make

1671
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,640
Speaker 9: of him here? Slightly the underdog against Alexander Hernandez.

1672
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 10: I like Fejeida, but you know, both of these fighters

1673
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 10: are a little inconsistent to me. You know, I think

1674
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 10: it's a good sign that Hernandez is fighting more success

1675
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 10: as of late, I think his last fight was at

1676
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 10: one forty five. Yeah, no, three in a row, now

1677
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 10: at fifty okay, all right, sorry, so so yeah, I

1678
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 10: think you know he fighting at fifty five again. You know,

1679
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 10: when he's fought at one forty five. It seems like

1680
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 10: obviously he's getting more consistency now fighting in this division.

1681
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 7: But Jego's a problem.

1682
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 10: I think Diego is certainly going to be the better

1683
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 10: grappler if he's able to take this to the ground.

1684
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 7: I think this is where Fajeda can really win this fight.

1685
01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:59,759
Speaker 10: I think his best bet at doing that is probably

1686
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:02,679
Speaker 10: a against the cage and pressuring and trying to wear

1687
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:03,560
Speaker 10: down Hernandez.

1688
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:04,600
Speaker 7: But her name is.

1689
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 10: It seems like he's taking things more seriously. He's coming

1690
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 10: in better shape, he's coming in better prepared. I think

1691
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 10: if it stays on the feet the majority of this fight,

1692
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 10: If it stays on the feet, I think Hernandez wins this.

1693
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 10: If it goes to the ground, even maybe once or twice,

1694
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 10: I think Fejeda can finish him.

1695
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 7: So I like Fejeta.

1696
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 14: Here.

1697
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 7: We don't have a line on this fight as of

1698
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 7: right now, right we don't see anything here.

1699
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 9: Nothing on Draftking Sportsbook, but it figures to be pretty close.

1700
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm gonna lean the way of Fajita. I like

1701
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 7: Fejeeda in this spot.

1702
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 10: I think he might surprise Hernandez, who's doing a pretty

1703
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 10: quick turnaround here.

1704
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 9: And Fejeeda local to Texas as well. All right, midweight division.

1705
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 9: Kelvin Gastelim minus two sixty five Dustin stoltzpous is plus

1706
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 9: two point fifteen so kg still just thirty three years

1707
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 9: of age, making his twenty fifth UFC appearance. He was

1708
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 9: outpointed by Joe Pifer at UFC three sixteen back in June. Brian,

1709
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 9: nice to see him get back in there three months later.

1710
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 9: What are your thoughts on the matchup here against stoltzpoos.

1711
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1712
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 7: I like the activity. I like that he fought a

1713
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 7: huge eighty fiver and was like, hey, I'm gonna go

1714
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 7: to seventy. I don't want any of that wishy washy bullshit.

1715
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 7: Stayed eighty five. Turn around quick, you're thirty three years old,

1716
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 7: let's go. He looked pretty good knock there round against

1717
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 7: Joe Piper, you know what I mean. He did not

1718
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 7: give up, he got clip, but he looked good. Knock

1719
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 7: there around. So Flis is kind of a He can

1720
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 7: strike a little bit, but he wants to get you on.

1721
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 7: He wants to get you down. He wants to get

1722
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 7: you on top. His grappling's very strong. He has a

1723
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:26,640
Speaker 7: win over Joe Pifer. You guys remember he sleeps Joe

1724
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 7: Piper on his arm. Strong good grappler. Cardio is still

1725
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:32,560
Speaker 7: kind of a question mark. He is pretty durable, he

1726
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 7: has been finished, but he does have a leane little

1727
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 7: chin to him. I like Kelvin here, though the line's

1728
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 7: a little high for me. I think Kelvin's a little

1729
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 7: more flowy on the feet. I think that left hand

1730
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 7: is gonna find our home numerous times. And I think Calvin,

1731
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:47,560
Speaker 7: if he leans on his wrestling his anti wrestling, I

1732
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 7: should say to keep this fighting the feet. I think

1733
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 7: he's gonna He's gonna get a nice little knockout here.

1734
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 7: It's been a wasting sweashina Kevin Gaslom knockout. So I'm

1735
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 7: kind of hoping the books open up pretty wide for

1736
01:21:58,160 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 7: that one, But give me kg by.

1737
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:02,600
Speaker 9: Knockout can't fill the German Stultz Fuss just three and

1738
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 9: six in the UFC. Since that went over Joe Pifer

1739
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 9: on the Contender Series lost to Nurseltan Ruzaboya back in May.

1740
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 9: He's alternated wins and losses spanning his last six And

1741
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 9: how about this from my research this morning, Kelvin Gastlom

1742
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 9: hasn't been this big of a betting favorite since twenty

1743
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 9: seventeen against pet Belfort and Michael bisback. So speaks to

1744
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 9: kg's strength of schedule, seemingly on paper winnable fight here

1745
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:26,839
Speaker 9: against Stultzfus can't flow your thoughts.

1746
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think so as well.

1747
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 10: You know Sults, who's certainly doesn't have the experience that

1748
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:33,679
Speaker 10: Gastolm has when you're talking about high level guys.

1749
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 7: But Soultzus he's a grinder man, you know. I think

1750
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 7: he's a hard worker.

1751
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:42,720
Speaker 10: But as far as his striking, I think that's where

1752
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 10: he's going to have some problems, especially if he can't

1753
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 10: put Gastolm on his back and keep him there. I

1754
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 10: think this is a good fight for Kelvin to kind

1755
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 10: of get back in there get a win. I think

1756
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 10: Kelvin's going to be the better striker. I think as

1757
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 10: far as grappling skill, I think they're they're about even,

1758
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 10: you know, Kelvin might be the better wrestler as well,

1759
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 10: So yeah, I think this will be a good fight

1760
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 10: for for Kelvin to get a win.

1761
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, all right, that brings us to the lightweight division.

1762
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 9: Jared Flash Gordon make it a move ry. He's the

1763
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 9: moust two to seventy eight betting favorite here against Rafa Garcia,

1764
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 9: who is plus two twenty five. So Gordon is thirty seven.

1765
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 9: I was texting with him yesterday. Says he's never been

1766
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 9: in a better place mentally, physically, emotionally going into a fight.

1767
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 9: I think age with him really is just a number.

1768
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 9: He's in the best form of his career. I think

1769
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 9: the betting action sort of reflects that sentiment. The number

1770
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 9: continues to rise. What do you make of this one here?

1771
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 9: One fifty five BP.

1772
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's always that saying you learn more from a

1773
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 7: loss than you do for a win. Sometimes, Uh, listen,

1774
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 7: no one's learned more from a loss in a potty fight.

1775
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 7: You know, a lot of people can argue that he

1776
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 7: didn't lose. He's been on fire besides the weird King

1777
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 7: Green you know, headbutt situation. He's won his last three

1778
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 7: two or three fights, but two of them I knockout,

1779
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 7: like he's finding hisself, he's finding his power, he's finding

1780
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 7: what kind of fighter he wants to be. Earlier in

1781
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 7: his career, I know he had a lot of out

1782
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 7: of the cage stuff, which he openly talks about. He

1783
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 7: was a grappler, he was, you know, a cardio guy.

1784
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 8: He was this that.

1785
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 7: Now he's really finding what kind of fighter he is,

1786
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 7: and I love that about him. I know he's thirty seven,

1787
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 7: but I like that he's finding it and he's no

1788
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 7: easy out with anybody in this division. I love the

1789
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 7: line number on him. I thought we're gonna get him higher.

1790
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 7: Javi Garcia, I think his only way to win here

1791
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 7: is to really grapple Jared Gordon Easier said than done.

1792
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 7: I know he changed with Cub swantson. He's apparently very

1793
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 7: physically strong. I just don't think he stands with him

1794
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 7: on the feet. I don't think he can copeep with

1795
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 7: them on the ground and in the cardio aspect as well.

1796
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 7: Hopefull and Rovi Garcia is tough as nails. So I

1797
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 7: don't think Jared Gordon's gonna get another knockout here, but

1798
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 7: I think he's just gonna outpace him. Out work them,

1799
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 7: get a decision win. He's gonna look very clean in

1800
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:50,640
Speaker 7: this fight, and I think only bigger fights for the

1801
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:51,679
Speaker 7: future for Jared Gordon.

1802
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 9: Nicely done, Briy Kenny. I really think the rub here

1803
01:24:56,880 --> 01:25:00,040
Speaker 9: was nailed by BP right. Just the power advance and

1804
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 9: it's for Jared Gordon. He's putting people away now and

1805
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 9: that is the focus. Ratha Garcia hasn't had a lot

1806
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 9: of finishes. What do you make of this one here?

1807
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:12,600
Speaker 9: Jared about a three to one favorite right now on

1808
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 9: DraftKings Sportsbook.

1809
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think Jared's putting people away because he's putting

1810
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 10: things together. I think that he's getting confident now. He

1811
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 10: understands the game a lot more. And this is a

1812
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 10: guy that has had to really look at some of

1813
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 10: those losses, those close losses, and said what do I

1814
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 10: need to do differently?

1815
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 7: And to keep your.

1816
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 10: Confidence going after some of those close losses can be

1817
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 10: difficult for a guy who's a professional athlete. But you know,

1818
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 10: Gordon is tough as nails. He's a smart guy who's

1819
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 10: made the proper adjustments and I think he's well poised

1820
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 10: to win this fight now. I think that Rafa Garcia

1821
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 10: is a really good fighter as well. I think he's

1822
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 10: really tough. You can't just write him off. I think

1823
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 10: he's going to be dangerous, but I think this is

1824
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 10: Gordon's fight to lose. I like Jared in this spot

1825
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 10: a lot.

1826
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 8: All right.

1827
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:57,720
Speaker 9: Right back to Ken Floid to lead us off on

1828
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 9: the co main event at bantamweight Fighting out of woo

1829
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 9: Burn Lemons, ste Massachusetts. Rob Font was minus two twenty

1830
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 9: five when I first got the betting line against David Martinez,

1831
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 9: who was plus one seventy five. That was a Draftking

1832
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 9: sportsbook line. But hold on a second, folks. Rob Font

1833
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:19,639
Speaker 9: now minus one forty eight and the doctor David Martinez

1834
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 9: is plus one twenty four. An affirmative nod there from

1835
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 9: Ken Flow. Yeah, because Martinez is good. Right, So Font

1836
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,680
Speaker 9: was gonna face rou Rosas Junior in this spot and

1837
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 9: Rob Font, to his credit, he's had a lot of

1838
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 9: high profile opponents pull out of fights, Dominic Cruz, ro

1839
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 9: Urosas junior, and he's still an absolute savage and still

1840
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 9: an elite guy at this stage of his career, still

1841
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 9: a top nine guy. But Martinez had a scintilating UFC debut.

1842
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 9: I think he deserves the opportunity Kenny, what do you

1843
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 9: have for us on the comet.

1844
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 7: Fonts of studying.

1845
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 10: He's a stud for taking this fight against Martinez, who

1846
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 10: is really tough man. You know, if you go back

1847
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 10: and look at lot of his and a lot of

1848
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 10: his wins even outside the UFC, like he knows how

1849
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 10: to lead or we're somebody in and land a big shot,

1850
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:04,799
Speaker 10: and that's exactly what he did in his UFC debut.

1851
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 10: And he's precise, he's fast, he's athletic, clearly smart, and

1852
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 10: I think this is a really dangerous fight for Rob Font.

1853
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 10: And I can see why the line has come down

1854
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 10: a lot. You know, when I was looking at it

1855
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 10: at minus two twenty five, I was like, I don't

1856
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 10: know if I can touch that. I think, you know,

1857
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 10: I like Robin this spot. I do like rob because

1858
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 10: of his experience. I think this is a big fight

1859
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:31,560
Speaker 10: for Martinez. Now he could come through, because I do

1860
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:34,600
Speaker 10: think he's that talented. But I like this version of

1861
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 10: Rob Font right now. I like the fact that he's

1862
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 10: way more disciplined. He comes with excellent game plans. Now

1863
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 10: he's executing extremely well. He's a guy that continues to

1864
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:46,959
Speaker 10: get better in all aspects of the game. Has some momentum,

1865
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 10: So I like Rob Font in this spot despite it

1866
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 10: being a very difficult fight, or he's got a lot

1867
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 10: to lose anyway, I should say, But I do think

1868
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 10: there's some value still on Martinez. But I want Rob

1869
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 10: Font to win, and uh be nice to see one

1870
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 10: of the hometown guys get the win here. And I

1871
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 10: just like that Rob's been changing things up and been

1872
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 10: committed to be a better martial artist all the time.

1873
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 9: So yeah, of course that Farasa hobby connects it as well.

1874
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 7: Yes, So.

1875
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 9: I just don't know, Brian, how many VANDAM weights number

1876
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 9: nine in the world would accept to fight against a

1877
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:22,719
Speaker 9: twelve and one David Martinez. Want to know in the UFC,

1878
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 9: the way Font has here, you think he wins?

1879
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 7: I do, And I was really I thought Kenny was

1880
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 7: going to go against his mass his mass boy there

1881
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:34,680
Speaker 7: because Martinez is a handful. However, this reminds me a

1882
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 7: lot when fought Font, Adrian and Jan Yez. You know,

1883
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 7: Jas was coming in hot, knocking everyone out, and draft

1884
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 7: Font's like, yeah, yeah, I have some takedown issues, but

1885
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 7: I got nasty hands, nasty boxing, right. He is hitable,

1886
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:49,640
Speaker 7: he can get put down, He'll get back up, but

1887
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 7: his boxing is clean, crisp, and uh yeah, I love

1888
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 7: this fight for Roun five. I like this fight better

1889
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 7: than Rojas Junior. Ross Junior is a grappler. He was

1890
01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 7: gonna stick on him. You know, they're going to really

1891
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:00,680
Speaker 7: have to adopt a game play for that. And I

1892
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 7: love that Rob is now with fraz obviously one of

1893
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 7: the best MMA minds in the world. I think Rob

1894
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 7: is going to be on point in this fight. I

1895
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 7: think he's gonna be sharp. I think it's gonna be

1896
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 7: a close fight, but I think he has the edge obviously,

1897
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 7: an experience and just a little bit more with the

1898
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 7: volume coming second and third round as well, I think

1899
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 7: that's gonna be a big thing here. Look out for

1900
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 7: the first round is going to be a nail byer, right,

1901
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 7: first round's going to be good. Second and third I

1902
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 7: think Rob's gonna take over. We're looking at a decision

1903
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 7: win here, all right.

1904
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 9: That brings us to the noe cha UFC Featherweight main

1905
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 9: Event tenth ranks Jean Silva Modus two fifty eight, number

1906
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 9: two right Diego Lopez plus two to ten. Here comes

1907
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 9: the Lord of the Underground, trying to pick up his

1908
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 9: fallen Fighting Nerds teammates Kyle Bohalio and Mauricio Hoofy. Lopez,

1909
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:52,160
Speaker 9: of course trying to respond in con to the title

1910
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 9: loss to Bolkanovski. Amazing main event. Kenny very much could

1911
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 9: be a title eliminator. Laron Murphy is going to be

1912
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:01,680
Speaker 9: watching intently and hoping it, hoping that John Silva does

1913
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:05,759
Speaker 9: not knock Diego Lopez's head from San Antonio to Dallas.

1914
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 7: What do you make of the Featherway main event? Ultimately

1915
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 7: we'll need a pick can.

1916
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 10: Flog Amazing main event. I like both these guys in

1917
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 10: the way that they fight. They're both extremely aggressive. They

1918
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 10: go about it in two different ways. However, I think Lopez,

1919
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 10: you know, he he will utilize his grappling a lot

1920
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 10: to be successful in to win rounds. John John Silva

1921
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 10: not as much, but he can grapple, make no mistake

1922
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 10: about it. He knows how to stop takedowns. He also

1923
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:35,600
Speaker 10: knows how to make you pay if he gets on

1924
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 10: top with his ground and pound. How good is he

1925
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 10: off of his back, however, I don't know. I think

1926
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 10: he's got a great guillotine and he's he's pretty good

1927
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 10: at getting back to his feet, but Diego Lopez knows

1928
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 10: how to control extremely well. This is a very good

1929
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 10: presida to black belt, So Silva definitely has to mind

1930
01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 10: his p's and q's on the ground, but he's gonna

1931
01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 10: be best suited to keep this fight on the feet.

1932
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 10: I think he's the cleaner striker. I think he's from

1933
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 10: a counter striking perspective. This is where he can make

1934
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 10: Lopez pay, you know, similar to Terrence Crawford. I think

1935
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 10: John Silva makes you pay when you punch. He knows

1936
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 10: how to counter punch extremely well, and I think he's

1937
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 10: going to try to use Lopez's aggression against him. However,

1938
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 10: if Lopez is fainting a lot, if he's utilizing his jab,

1939
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 10: if he's keeping John Silva guessing, that's got to be

1940
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:30,320
Speaker 10: his approach and that's where Lopez can win this fight.

1941
01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 10: I've been kind of going back and forth a little

1942
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:36,000
Speaker 10: bit on this one, especially given the fact that you know,

1943
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:39,719
Speaker 10: the fighting nerds didn't have a great, you know, weekend.

1944
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 7: But I like John Silva. I think he's the truth.

1945
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 10: I think this is a guy that could fight for

1946
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 10: the belt, and if he's able to defeat Lopez, especially

1947
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 10: by finish man, I think he gets that next shot

1948
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:56,120
Speaker 10: for sure, So give me Jean Lord Silva.

1949
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 9: Jean Lord Silva got up to as high as minus

1950
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 9: three oh five. It's two fifty eight right now. Diego

1951
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:03,320
Speaker 9: Lopez plus two ten BP. Who do you like at

1952
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:03,720
Speaker 9: the main event?

1953
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1954
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:06,760
Speaker 7: Great breakdown by Kenny. I don't have too much to

1955
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:10,880
Speaker 7: add to that. I really think Lopez does have an

1956
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 7: advantage on the ground, although John Silba does have a

1957
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 7: nasty grip, a nasty choke. He's hard to hold down.

1958
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 7: He's also just so carefree on the stand up. He

1959
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 7: just doesn't give a fuck. He'll just throw. He's got

1960
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:25,800
Speaker 7: a great chin. He's obviously trust his power. The one

1961
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 7: issue that I had that that I'm gonna see get

1962
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 7: brought up. You're probably gonn hear it at nauseum is

1963
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:31,720
Speaker 7: let's see if he can nail that weight right that.

1964
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 7: Let's see if he can get one. Obviously, Let's see

1965
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 7: if he can nail that way, because Diego Lopez is

1966
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 7: gonna get on waight. Die Loga Lopez is not a

1967
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:41,639
Speaker 7: small forty five uh, And I think Diego is gonna

1968
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 7: take the fight no matter what because he's a stud.

1969
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 7: But I like Diego in this spot. Actually, I'm gonna

1970
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 7: go opposite Keny. I need to chase some dogs here.

1971
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:50,040
Speaker 7: I think Diego's got a great chin on him. I

1972
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:52,120
Speaker 7: think he's got some good heart. He proved that he

1973
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:54,599
Speaker 7: can go five hard rounds. One of the best featherweights

1974
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 7: in the world, Alexander Volkanowski fight wasn't going his way,

1975
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:00,679
Speaker 7: but towards the end that fight, he really kept pushing,

1976
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 7: kept pushing, never gave up on himself. This is a

1977
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:05,439
Speaker 7: guy that took a fight on two hours notice against

1978
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 7: against Dan Ege. He's a savage, he's a warrior. He

1979
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 7: looks absolutely shredded as well, a fight that he wants.

1980
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 7: And this is tough for me because I try to

1981
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 7: separate cappern fan. My favorite fighter to watch currently in

1982
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:19,360
Speaker 7: THEFC right now is John So I think this guy

1983
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:23,320
Speaker 7: is absolutely must see TV. But when you're looking at

1984
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 7: the numbers and I'm down a billion points, Diego Lopez

1985
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 7: at this juicy plus two ten on DraftKings sports Broke

1986
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 7: right now, I can't pass it up. I think he's

1987
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 7: a high level guy. When you get a high level

1988
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 7: guy with with with big number, with a good chin

1989
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 7: and a good ground game, I'm gonna take it. So yeah,

1990
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 7: give me Diego Lopez and.

1991
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 9: Quickly Brian before we get to the predictions. Yeah, I

1992
01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 9: will be in Las Vegas for the Undisputed and Ring

1993
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 9: Magazine super Middleweight championship fight between Canelo Alvarez and Bud Crawford.

1994
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 9: Canelo's minus one eighty Terrence Crawford plus one forty five.

1995
01:33:57,240 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 9: Do you have any sort of convicted feel on the

1996
01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 9: main events?

1997
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 8: Oh?

1998
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, I you know, I don't cat boxing, you know, like,

1999
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 7: I don't do it on my show, but I do it.

2000
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 7: I bet on it, right, I do it myself. I

2001
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:10,479
Speaker 7: just don't put it out there. And I was watching

2002
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 7: the table all weekend and I really really it was.

2003
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:15,360
Speaker 7: I was fifty to fifty on it because of the size.

2004
01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 7: The size was getting in my head a little bit.

2005
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:18,879
Speaker 7: But then I'm like, you know what, No, it's Bud Crawford.

2006
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 7: This guy's mean in there. If you look at all

2007
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:23,479
Speaker 7: the championship caliber fighters that are out there that are

2008
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 7: a high level like Bud Crawford, there's not many that

2009
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 7: have the finishing percentage this guy does. He finishes fights.

2010
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 7: You look at Canelo Alvarez, where the the idea in

2011
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 7: the boxing world is he's maybe taking his foot off

2012
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 7: the gas. He's getting collecting huge paychecks. He's not the

2013
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 7: aggressor that he once was. He looked at his two

2014
01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:42,360
Speaker 7: fights ago against Edgar berger Linga. If I'm pronouncing his

2015
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:44,640
Speaker 7: name right, lang yep, Yeah, couldn't get him out of there.

2016
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 7: Berlinga got knocked out his fight after Canelo before that,

2017
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 7: Jimmy Munga couldn't get him out of there. He gets

2018
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 7: knocked out after that. You know, it's like, where is

2019
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 7: Canelo in there? Is he just boxing? Whereas the power

2020
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 7: is the aggression. Terrence Crawford's a mean motherfucker when he

2021
01:34:57,880 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 7: gets in there, he's mean. He smiles that you talk

2022
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 7: to you, He switches, dances. He might be a little undersize,

2023
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:05,599
Speaker 7: but I absolutely love his speed. I love his boxing powers,

2024
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:07,800
Speaker 7: I love his IQ. He's a little bit older. He's

2025
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 7: gonna be thirty eight, like a week after the fight

2026
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 7: or five minutes have a fight, so currently thirty seven

2027
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:14,519
Speaker 7: when he fights. So but I like Terrence Crawford plus

2028
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 7: one forty five. I think what he's currently is. I

2029
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:18,600
Speaker 7: love the dog. I'm backing the dog and that I

2030
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:20,599
Speaker 7: love Terrence Crawford. Give me Bud Kenny.

2031
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:22,599
Speaker 9: I feel like the public is split on this fight,

2032
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 9: a lot of people falling on both sides of it.

2033
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:27,560
Speaker 9: I do believe Canelo Alvarez is meaner than he is

2034
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 9: being given credit, and certainly has that savagery in him

2035
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:33,200
Speaker 9: as well. But ultimately, Ken Floy'd love a prediction on

2036
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:36,000
Speaker 9: the big boxing match this weekend.

2037
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 10: I'd love to give one. I'm not sure if I'm right,

2038
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:40,600
Speaker 10: but I'd love to give one. I think that this

2039
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 10: is the kind of fight that is I hope brings

2040
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 10: out the best in someone like Canelo, and he's gonna

2041
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:48,640
Speaker 10: have to be at his best if he wants to

2042
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 10: beat someone like Terrence Crawford, because Crawford is so damn

2043
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:53,280
Speaker 10: smart when he fights.

2044
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 7: The problem is, and the good thing is.

2045
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:59,760
Speaker 10: He goes out to fight Terrence and he figures you

2046
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:02,759
Speaker 10: out out and then he starts to pick you apart.

2047
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 7: But in doing that, he gets off to some slow starts. Sometimes.

2048
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 10: Can he get off to a slow start and still

2049
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 10: beat someone like Canelo, who also happens to be a

2050
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 10: very smart boxer as well.

2051
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:19,439
Speaker 7: I don't know. That's gonna be interesting to me. So

2052
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:22,559
Speaker 7: and again, for Canelo, does he get up for this one?

2053
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:24,840
Speaker 10: Is he out there to try to hurt you and

2054
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:27,640
Speaker 10: take you out and really build his legacy up that

2055
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 10: much more, or is he going out there for just

2056
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:31,439
Speaker 10: yet another paycheck.

2057
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 8: I don't know.

2058
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:34,240
Speaker 10: He says he wants to retire at thirty seven. He

2059
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:36,240
Speaker 10: does know that he's got a couple more years left.

2060
01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:37,760
Speaker 10: He's got to make the most out of that.

2061
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:38,680
Speaker 8: And and.

2062
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 10: You know, I think that the power of Canelo, uh

2063
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 10: and the fact that, you know, for Crawford to come

2064
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 10: back against a larger guy like Canelo, it's gonna be

2065
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:54,519
Speaker 10: extremely difficult. And I think Canelo's chin is gonna be

2066
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:56,600
Speaker 10: is gonna be able to hold up or some of

2067
01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 10: the other guys were, you know, when Crawford was kind

2068
01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:00,639
Speaker 10: of the bigger guy and some of the other fights,

2069
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:02,720
Speaker 10: I think his size kind of came into play a

2070
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:04,600
Speaker 10: little bit. I'm not sure his power is going to

2071
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 10: be enough to take out someone like Canelo or hurt

2072
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:10,240
Speaker 10: him or to maybe start stealing round after round after

2073
01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 10: round after maybe losing the early part of the fight.

2074
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:17,759
Speaker 10: But he is a brilliant boxer. But I like Canelo

2075
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 10: here as the younger guy, as the bigger guy. Gimme cinnamon,

2076
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 10: nicely done, really nicely done. I appreciate the extra handicapping

2077
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:28,600
Speaker 10: out of you guys. One thing left to do.

2078
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:31,519
Speaker 9: Place your bets broutched by John Annet dot coment Kenny

2079
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:34,599
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2080
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:39,120
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2081
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 9: a little bit of a forgettable week at the window

2082
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:44,439
Speaker 9: for you guys because of Mauricio. Hoofy Canflow did hit

2083
01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:46,920
Speaker 9: though a two hundred dollars two leg parlay. Mason Jones

2084
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:50,479
Speaker 9: and Modesta's Bakowskis gave eight hundred dollars back on Hoofy

2085
01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 9: Can Flow's here to date still in the black plus

2086
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:56,960
Speaker 9: six hundred and fifty seven dollars and eleven cents. And

2087
01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:58,840
Speaker 9: we're not going to give you Petris figure. You can

2088
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:02,120
Speaker 9: figure that out yourselves. But we're giving you guys three

2089
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:04,759
Speaker 9: thousand dollars to spend because we have two major combat

2090
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:05,559
Speaker 9: sporting events.

2091
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 7: So without further delay, BP three g's who do you like? Yeah,

2092
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 7: so real quick, this is just kind of how my

2093
01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:17,120
Speaker 7: betting is going on this show. There's thirteen fights on Saturday.

2094
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:19,679
Speaker 7: I went twelve and one on my predictions. The only

2095
01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 7: one I got was Rufie the wrong I got Rufie.

2096
01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:24,640
Speaker 7: I made it killing almost their career day for me.

2097
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:27,799
Speaker 7: But in our game, I picked Rufie as a parlay.

2098
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:30,840
Speaker 7: That's what gambling is. So I just wanted to give

2099
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:33,559
Speaker 7: a quick little brag there. I never went I never

2100
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:36,760
Speaker 7: did a thirteen or fourteen, oh, whatever the fight card is.

2101
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:38,640
Speaker 7: I've never went undefeated before. I went twelve and one,

2102
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:41,360
Speaker 7: so I was almost there. Wow, Listen, short and sweet,

2103
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:44,920
Speaker 7: you know I'm chasing dogs. I'm chasing Kenny. Who's the

2104
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:45,680
Speaker 7: big dog in you are?

2105
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 8: Right now?

2106
01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:49,320
Speaker 7: Give me fifteen hundred and Diego Lopez give me fifteen

2107
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:51,840
Speaker 7: hundred on Terrence Crawford. Let's call it a fucking day.

2108
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 7: Let's go.

2109
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:53,880
Speaker 8: I like it.

2110
01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:56,599
Speaker 9: Let's go as a straight wager guy myself, I really

2111
01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:59,679
Speaker 9: like it. Fifteen hundred dollars on Diego Lopez at plus

2112
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:03,479
Speaker 9: two ten, fifteen hundred on Terrence Bud Crawford at plus

2113
01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 9: one forty five.

2114
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 7: Ken Flow, the floor is yours. I'm gonna be a

2115
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:07,720
Speaker 7: basic bitch here.

2116
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:12,800
Speaker 10: One thousand dollars on Gastolum, thousand dollars on me, not

2117
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:14,559
Speaker 10: John Silva.

2118
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:17,960
Speaker 7: It's gonna get interesting if I lose Dallas and give

2119
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:21,040
Speaker 7: me one k on mister Cinnamon on Canelo.

2120
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 9: Let's go outstanding. I love that you guys are on

2121
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 9: different sides of that. All right, BP, feel better, my man.

2122
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:28,559
Speaker 9: Hopefully you're well enough to do the game. I may

2123
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:30,200
Speaker 9: takes podcast later. You got a partner shot.

2124
01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:32,840
Speaker 7: Yeah. Lastly, one, I want to apologize the audience for

2125
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 7: my low energy day. Usually I try to bring it.

2126
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 7: I am on the Elvis needs the sing tonight medicine.

2127
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:42,439
Speaker 7: I crawled myself in here, so I do apologize for that. Secondly, John,

2128
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:45,320
Speaker 7: I know you've called every big you know UFC there is,

2129
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 7: and this is just another testament of what you're gonna

2130
01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:50,360
Speaker 7: do and how great you are. This is the extension

2131
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:53,240
Speaker 7: of your greatness calling boxing. I know you're gonna kill it,

2132
01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 7: my man. I'll be tuned in. Just have fun with it,

2133
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:58,280
Speaker 7: be yourself, and you're gonna absolutely murder in the boxing

2134
01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:00,840
Speaker 7: worlds it can be like, oh shit, don so fucking man.

2135
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 7: Uh in case they don't list. I know there's a

2136
01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:03,920
Speaker 7: lot of boxing fans.

2137
01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:04,240
Speaker 8: I don't.

2138
01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:06,760
Speaker 7: I actually don't cross over, so uh, just kill him,

2139
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:07,479
Speaker 7: have fun, my guy.

2140
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 9: Thank you, buddy. That's good advice. And uh, I always

2141
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:12,800
Speaker 9: appreciate having you in my corner, and I think you

2142
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 9: know that. Our chief handicapper, Brian Patri, Brian Petrie, thank you, buddy.

2143
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:21,120
Speaker 9: Enjoy the show and hope you guys enjoyed the show.

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Speaker 9: Thanks to our producer Cody Merril, thanks to Jason, and

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Speaker 9: thanks to our guests, the Hall of Famer Andre Son

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Speaker 9: of god Ward, the future Hall of Famer, Ray Longo,

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Speaker 9: Brian Petrie, as you just heard, and we will be

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Speaker 9: right back with you next Monday. I'll be live in

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Speaker 9: Las Vegas, so I'm gonna watch the no ch a

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Speaker 9: UFC show on Sunday with football, and then we'll be

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Speaker 9: for the Gret Kenny floor and I'm John and thanks

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Speaker 9: for Washington listen.

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Speaker 7: We'll talk to you next Monday.

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Speaker 11: Until then, go in Kenny, Floydan I got a baby

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