1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huttle on Giants 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: dot Com. Here we're going on the Giants. Let him 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: part of the Giants podcast Network. Welcome to another edition 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: of the Giant Subtle Podcast. It's all brought to you 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: by psc and G Energy Efficiency For game time and anytime, 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: visit PSEG dot com slash Giants for discounts, rebates and 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: home energy assessments. And this week's Giant Hubtle is someone 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: that lives and breeds football as much as pretty much 9 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: anyone on this planet. He is Mike Mayock Uh for 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: the oldies out there Giants defensive back in three Now 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: he covers the league for Western one Sports. Also, of course, 12 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: former general manager for the Raiders. Mike, it's good to 13 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: see him, man. We saw you up in Minnesota for 14 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: the game on Sunday. It was good to good to 15 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: catch up for a few minutes at halftime. How you doing. 16 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 1: I'm little great, I I thought, um. Having an opportunity 17 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: to do that Giants game for me was awesome, and 18 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: not just because I was a Giant. Uh. To be 19 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: honest with you, I think Brian Dave Balls the coach 20 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: of the year. I think what he and Joe Shane 21 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: have done is amazing and I couldn't wait to see 22 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: them in person because I spent a day at your 23 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: training camp and you know, you go all the way 24 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: back to the beginning, right you check out training camp 25 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: and you're coming off four wins and to watch what 26 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: Joe and Brian did. I thought the coaching staff did 27 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: an amazing job and it was really awesome to see 28 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: it in person last weekend. Yeah, what was your major 29 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: takeaway seeing them in person? My major takeaway was I 30 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: was down on the field before the game and we 31 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,279 Speaker 1: had Daniel Jones and the Senior Bowl in two thousand 32 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: nineteen when when I was in my first year with 33 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: the Raiders, and I really liked him. I loved his 34 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: intensities football like you, intelligence, work, ethic. Uh. He looked 35 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: like he got bigger to me. I mean, he looks 36 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: closer to Josh Allen right now at like six five 37 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: to you know, I don't know what he's weighing in at, 38 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: but he's a bigger, stronger version of what I remember, 39 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: athletic as can be. I really thought that his legs 40 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: were the difference in the game. Yeah, and he had 41 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: the bulk up to given with it waiting what's seventeen times, 42 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: I think in the cave on Sunday something like that. 43 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: And much like with Brian Dable and Josh Allen up 44 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: in Buffalo. You know, his legs is now so much 45 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: of what the Giants do, not just in the design stuff. 46 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: He was much more effective as a scrambler, picked up 47 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: so many Keith first down conversions. Yeah, especially in the 48 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: first half. He ran the ball ten times for seventy 49 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: some yards in the first half. It's funny because when 50 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: we do the Westwood one games, I have to do 51 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: a keys before the game and my two keys for 52 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: the Giants offense where you had to convert red zone 53 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: opportunities into touchdowns, which you did and you did all 54 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: year by the way, and number two Daniel Jones had 55 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: to use his legs all day long. And and I 56 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: really really thought that was the difference in the football game. 57 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: I thought he did a phenomenal job both impromptu, which 58 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: is what you're talking about, the scrambles in the first half, 59 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: and I thought they did a great job with them 60 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: also just on the planned quarterback runs to compliments say 61 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: Kwombard Lee, Yeah, no question about it. And I guess 62 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: we'll get to it now. I'll circle back to the game. 63 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: Any doubt in your mind that Daniel Jones is the 64 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: next Giants quarterback for quite a long time after this season, 65 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: that at some point with a long term extension, I 66 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: would hope not. I would think that, Um, from the 67 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: Giants perspective, you certainly want him back. And I would 68 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: think from Daniel's perspective, UM, he had by far his 69 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: best year, UM, and I would assume that he'd love 70 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: to be part of what's going on. And I think 71 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: reasonable minds can get to an agreement in the off season, 72 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: no question about it. All right, Mike, let's stick with 73 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: the offense. Then, is this past heavy approach you think 74 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: something that's going to continue or is this something that 75 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: you think was more all right? We know the Vikings 76 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: past defense has been pretty much a civil year and 77 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: they don't defend the middle of the field. Well, they 78 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: killed him with crossers or do you think they found 79 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: something or do you think they gonna go back to 80 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: maybe more of a balanced looking attack next weekend's filling Um. 81 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: I think Brian and Kafka, I think they're smart enough 82 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: to understand that every week changes and and obviously I 83 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: love Brian's approach because it's basically, look, we gotta get 84 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: a little bit better every day. We gotta grind, we 85 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: we and and that's what they've done. And uh, they 86 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: haven't put undue pressure on themselves. Um. I think as 87 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: far as run passed, it's a I see, if you 88 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: look at the Eagles for a second, what they've done 89 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: with Jalen Hurts in the run pass game is very similar. Okay, 90 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: all year long. Jalen Hurts has been so effective because 91 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: not just the R P O game, but because they 92 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: have planned quarterback runs just like the Giants utilized, especially 93 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: last weekend. Plus he could impromptu scramble. So I really 94 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: think that the Giants will take advantage of whatever they 95 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: think the Eagles are giving them this weekend. And it 96 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: can't just be one or the other. You the Mike, 97 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: and we've seen, I think in the last three weeks 98 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: where the Giants have played their starters, not including that 99 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: last game against Philly, you know they've passed the ball 100 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: as well as they have all year. The Christmas EVAs Minnesota, 101 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: the game against the Colts, and then this playoff game. 102 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: What have they found in your eye watching the tape 103 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: in the passing game. That's allowed them to be so 104 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: much more effective the last few weeks than they were 105 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: for really the first three and a half months of 106 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: the year. I think it's a couple of things. Number one, 107 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: I think it's trust and confidence. And you know, those 108 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: the Giants white Outs have been beaten up by media 109 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: people all year long. And to be honest with you, 110 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: I got a huge kick out of watching their tape 111 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: because you know, I'm a I'm a former tenth round pick. 112 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: I'm a guy that always felt like he had to 113 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: work harder than other people. Um, And I think and 114 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: that gives you a little bit of an attitude, It 115 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: gives you a little bit of chip on your shoulder. 116 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: And I see that with all your white Outs. I 117 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: mean Hodgens, you know what they got him? What November 118 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: when when Buffalo waived him. You know know he was 119 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: you know, Slate was a fifth round pick. I think 120 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: Hodgens was a sixth round pick. Uh, Richie James Link 121 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: was a seventh round pick. Um. So they I think 122 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones trust those guys, and I think that they're accountable, 123 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: they're tough, they're where they belong. I think their offensive 124 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: lines given Daniel Jones sometime. I think with the run 125 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,799 Speaker 1: game getting better, and you look at sa Quan's numbers, 126 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: you know, they didn't have to rush him as many times, 127 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: but he got enough touches that his the yard and 128 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: he gained in the run end pass game was significant, 129 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: significantly over hundred yards. So I think really the balance 130 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: is what's helped the pass game. Okay, And I think 131 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: the receivers are accountable. Um, I just I think the 132 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: Giants have maximize everything they do on offense. All right, 133 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: let's jump over to the defensive side of the ball 134 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: and Mike and you know, I knew he had a 135 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: good game watching it live. When I rewatched the game 136 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: yesterday morning. Boy Dexter Lawrence was a monster in that game. 137 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: And frankly, the Giants might lose by a touchdown if 138 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: he doesn't have those key pressures that he has on 139 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: some of those vikings, third downs and other dropbacks because 140 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: guys are open. But you know, Lawrence was in Cousin's 141 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: face the whole game and he you know, with with 142 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: cousins lack of mobility, you got that rush up the middle. 143 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: I really feel like Lawrence was the difference and by 144 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: the way Letteral Williams did a good job in there, too, 145 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: but I thought Lawrence especially did just an unbelievable job. 146 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: And he has all year of getting pressure up the 147 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: middle seven a beast, okay, And it doesn't matter what 148 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: tape you put on. And uh, fifty pounds, he moves 149 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: like a guy a hundred pounds less, which which means 150 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: to me he's a freak. Okay, he is a physical freak. Uh. 151 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: He can dominate against the run game. But I remember 152 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: for years talking to quality quarterbacks, whether it was the 153 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: Mannings or or you know, just whoever you want to 154 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, whoever you want to talk to. What bothers 155 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: a quarterback the most? And the law tell you it's 156 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: immediate pressure up the middle. Okay, if you have to 157 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: edge guys screaming off the edge. You know, if Timodel 158 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: and Ojelari are coming up off the edge and you've 159 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: got no pressure up the middle, quarterbacks just gonna step 160 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: up into the pocket. You know, Tom Brady made a 161 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: living that Ryan, Eli Peyton, they make a living stepping 162 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: up in the pocket. When ninety seven's in there. You 163 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: can't do that. And you know you could count how 164 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: many times Kirk Cousins had here and then his hands 165 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: and eyes come down, and as soon as his hands 166 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: and eyes come down, it's all over. You win. Yeah, 167 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: he could have had k j Osborne on a cross 168 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: or is either on the fourth down a third down 169 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: play at the end of the game. But Lawrence was 170 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: there and he couldn't, you know, turn his shoulders to 171 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 1: make the throw. Um, you know, wing Martin Dale when 172 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: he got here, Mike, We all knew him as a 173 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: big blitzer in Baltimore, right we saw, you know, he 174 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 1: lost all those corners last year and the Bengals killed 175 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: him in that game late with the six touchdowns, Burro 176 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 1: over the top all game. And while his blitzer it 177 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: has remained high this year. I was very impressed with 178 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: the way he has varied what he's done in certain 179 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: match up and I thought this Viking game was a 180 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: perfect example. Right. We saw a ton of quarters coverage, 181 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: which is not what Wink likes to do, a lot 182 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: of bracketing of justin Jefferson, you know, they kept everything 183 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: in front, and I just thought it showed a lot 184 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: of flexibility from him to customize the game plan against 185 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: the offense and the opponent and frankly going away to 186 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: what's really in his DNA, which is to send extra 187 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: pressure and play man. I agree with all that, And 188 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: I've known Wink for twenty years and I've always felt 189 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: like he almost can't help himself. You know, he's gonna 190 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: heat up a quarterback when in doubt he's gone right. Um, 191 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: I think I'm trying to I think it was the 192 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: Dallas scheme. Um. He brought a ton of pressure and 193 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: Giants gott beat. I think it was a tight end 194 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: route in the end zone. Um. And I kind of 195 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: felt like watching that tape that that was a little 196 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: bit too much, put too much pressure on on a 197 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: coverage there. Um. And the last several weeks, I think 198 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: he's been a little bit more judicious with it. I 199 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: think Dexter Lawrence reckoned things inside. I think getting Ojulari 200 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: back healthy food. Um, you know, along with Thibodeau has helped. Um. 201 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: I give him a lot of credit. They took Jefferson 202 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: out of the game in the second half, uh, and 203 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: a lot of bracket, a lot of double team, no 204 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: matter whether he was lined up outside or inside. You're 205 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: taking literally one of the three or four best offensive 206 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: players in the NFL out of the game in the 207 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: second half, Um, And I think that was a big 208 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: part of it. And I give Wink a ton of credit. 209 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: Wink is such a smart football guy and such a 210 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: good coach, UM, and I think he played exactly to 211 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: what needed to happen to beat the Minnesota Vikings last Sunday. 212 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: You know, Mike, I know you love talking about young 213 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: players and evaluating them. What do you think about this 214 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: Giant's rookie class. They played a really big part in 215 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: their success this year. Evan Neils had his issues, a 216 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: lot of young offensive lineman do you know, Cavon Thibodeaus 217 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: made some big plays. Daniel Bellinger has basically been the 218 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: starting tight end all year. Your thoughts on these Giants rookies. Unfortunately, 219 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: we've had a bunch of injuries with you know, uh 220 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: some of the other guys. Quot a Flat had the 221 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: big p BU at the end of the game to 222 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: flock that in. Yep. So I guess your thoughts on 223 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: how big of a part of the future you think 224 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: this rookie class is gonna be and how good can 225 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: these guys be down the road now? Ultimately, I think 226 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna be really good. Um. You start with Thibodeaux, 227 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: the number five overall pick, and some people in the 228 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: media criticized lack of quote sack production. I don't see that. 229 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: I long tape. What I see is a guy got 230 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: a ton of quarterback pressures and it's gonna be a 231 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,239 Speaker 1: star in this league. Um. Evan Neil is a talented 232 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: physical traits big long He's gonna be a starting tackle 233 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: in the league forever. Um. But he played like a 234 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: rookie a lot. And that's okay. Offensive lines hard man 235 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: that people don't understand how hard it is to come 236 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: into the leg and you're you're trying to block all 237 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: these freaks one on one, and um, you know, he 238 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: got hurt a little bit. Um, so he struggled. I 239 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: thought at different times this year. However, they kept playing him, 240 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: and he's getting better and he'll be really good flat. 241 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:05,359 Speaker 1: He can run, he can make some plays. Bellinger, Um, 242 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, he had a key third down conversion the 243 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: other day. I like Bellinger. Um. One Dale Robinson got hurt, right, 244 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: And I mean, there's a guy that that I think 245 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: is gonna ultimately be a really good football player. Um. 246 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: And then you had to the offensive lineman that got 247 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: hurt early, you know the North Carolina kid as you 248 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: had two of them that got hrd um Um mckeithon 249 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: was the bigger guy, mckithan and a zudo Um. So 250 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: they had a lot of their rookies hurt, but they 251 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: still got good production out of their primary guys. And 252 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: by the way, Darrean Beavers might have been the starting 253 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: Mike linebacker if he didn't tear his a. C Elton 254 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: the camp be that the linebacker at at Cincinnati. So 255 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 1: and by the way you mentioned but it was a 256 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: pass rusher. I thought his play on that screen in 257 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter was also emblematic. You know everyone thought 258 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: of him is just a pass rusher coming out. He's 259 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: done a good job in the run and some of 260 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: the non pass rushing things they've asked him to do. Yeah, 261 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: the play you're talking about even live. I saw it 262 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: happen and he's rushing the quarterback they throw the screen, 263 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: sticks his foot in the ground and goes and chases 264 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: him down. Um. That kind of hustle so impressive. Now 265 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: does he have to get better against the run? Yea, 266 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: he does, Um, and I think he has. I don't 267 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: think it's you know, people don't understand when you're past 268 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: quote past rushing defensive end coming out of argon or anywhere, 269 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: and you're two hundred and fifty two hundred and fifty 270 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 1: four pounds whatever you are, and you're trying to to 271 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: to set an edge against three pound tackles. That's not 272 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: easy and there's a lot of technique and repetition necessary 273 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: to get good at it. And I thought, he, as 274 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: long as you're tough and you're willing to work at it, 275 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: we'll be fine. And I think he is. Yeah, absolutely, 276 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: all right, Let's look at his matchup against the Eagles 277 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: real quick here, Mike, before we say goodbye again, we 278 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: appreciate the time. You know, Jalen Hurts. To me, he's 279 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: such a key to everything the Eagles do. Everyone talks 280 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: about Davante Smith and A. J. Brown, and we'll touch 281 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: on him too, but their offensive line is probably the 282 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: best in football. And what makes I think the Miles 283 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: Sanders part of the run game go in a lot 284 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: of ways is the threat of the Hurts run. And 285 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: I think how healthy he is and whether or not 286 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: he can be a runner in this game and not 287 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: a guy that you know runs for four yards and slides, 288 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: but are real like that one power with him right, 289 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: and that to me is so key to how this 290 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: Eagle's offense confunction. If that's there, I mean they're tough 291 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: to stop. If it's not, I think it's a whole 292 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: new ball game. Yeah. I mean, here's the deal. I 293 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: mentioned that I thought your head coach was was the 294 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: coach of the year. I think the executive of the 295 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: year is Howie Rosen. Absolutely, And they're gifted everywhere. Okay, 296 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: they are really physically talented and gifted. And I don't 297 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: think anybody in either building would deny that there's more 298 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: talent today in the Philadelphia building than in the Giants building. Okay, 299 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: so you start with that premise. One offense for the Eagles. 300 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: Their offensive line is a top three offensive line in 301 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: the league by any metric. They're wide out group is 302 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: a top five by any metric. Okay, They're running back 303 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: Miles Sanders is a really good football player, went healthy 304 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: and to your point, because of the quarterback, kind of 305 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: like Daniel Jones and s qwan. Right to your point, 306 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: when the quarter there's a threat of quarterback run, it's 307 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: gonna help the other running back. Okay, they're tight end 308 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: got it when he's healthy, So there aren't any soft 309 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: spots to exploit for for anybody's defense when you're going 310 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: up against the Philadelphia offense. But again to your point, 311 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: when you have a healthy quarterback in Jalen Hurts, he's 312 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: a different guy. It's just like the Giants last week. 313 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: It's planned quarterback run, it's r p O. It's spontaneous 314 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: play when the quarterbacks in trouble in the pocket and 315 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: can scramble. So if Jalen Hurts is healthy and and 316 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: it's the normal game plan, all bets are off. They're 317 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: they're flying on all cylinders. If if they're trying to 318 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: protect them like they did in their last game, it's 319 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: a different conversation. Yeah, I think it really is. What 320 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: do you think winks approach is gonna be here? Does 321 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: he have two plans based on what he sees from 322 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: Hurts early and then determine how much of a threat 323 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: he is as a runner, And then you would just like, 324 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: how do you think as a coach you kind of 325 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: head into this game not exactly knowing what that quarterback 326 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: is going to be able to do. I think it's 327 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: one comprehensive plan that you can adjust as the game 328 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: goes on based on whatever happens. And and again, um, 329 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: if if the Eagles aren't running their planned quarterback runs 330 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: in the first half, it will give you an indication 331 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: of what the health of the quarterback is. If if 332 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: you're seeing quarterback power and you're sitting quarterback counter and 333 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: quarterback sleep and quarterback draw, it means they feel like 334 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: this kid is really healthy and good to go. If 335 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: they're just trying to rely more on on the run game, 336 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: the traditional run game, it's a different conversation. But I 337 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: think for the Eagles, it's really good that they got 338 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: a chance to dush Jalen hurts Awf a little bit 339 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: week a team, just to give him a chance to 340 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: get back into it, get reacclimated so the first time 341 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: he doesn't does it. It's not in the divisional playoffs. 342 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: How much do you take out of that matchup if 343 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: you're either team. The Giants didn't play their starters. Was 344 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: kind of a weird game. The Eagles knew they weren't starting, 345 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: and you know that can affect how how players kind 346 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: of approach it sometimes, right, So how much do you 347 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: take from that game? Matchup? Is the Giants on a 348 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: home with them, even though the backups were in And then, 349 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, a month earlier when the Eagles really took 350 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: it to the Giants. I thought the two teams are 351 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: very different than than they are now. But how much 352 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: can you really take out of those two matchups when 353 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: you're thinking about this game? I don't take much out 354 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: of it in all. In all honesty, UM, division foes. 355 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: They know each other, you know, the third time this year. 356 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: There's not a lot of secrets. UM. The health of 357 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: Lane Johnson is another conversation. You know that. To me, 358 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: that's a significant conversation. UM. So I don't put a 359 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: whole lot into Week eighteen other than it just reinforced 360 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: to me how well the Giants are coached, how tough 361 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: they are, and how hard they compete, regardless of what 362 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: the circumstances are. Coping over Mike Mayock Area is the 363 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: Call of Bills and Bengals this week. It's on w 364 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: FN here in New York at three pm. Make sure 365 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: you check it out. He called Giants and Vikings over 366 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: the weekend. Do you think win can approach the Eagles 367 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: weapons outside similarly to how he did Jefferson? Or is 368 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: the fact that they got Brown and Smith and Frankly 369 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: a team that's much more willing and have the want 370 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: to run the fall in Minnesota and Minnesota they run up. 371 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: They don't really want to run it, they want to 372 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: throw it. Can you have that approach or is you 373 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: gonna have to maybe bring one of those stafeties a 374 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: little bit closer to the box to account for that 375 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: run game. I think the hard part is that with Cousins, 376 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: you had a quarterback that you knew where to find him. 377 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: He's in the pocket, he's not necessarily a run threat. 378 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: To run. You can play two man against them. You 379 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: can do some different things where you know he's probably 380 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: not gonna tuck it and go right. So from a 381 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: game plan perspective, you start with that, it's like, you 382 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: know where the quarterback is gonna be. It's easier to 383 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: find him. The hard and also, I mean, you knew 384 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: you were gonna give something up a little bit last 385 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: week with the amount of attention put on Justin Jefferson, 386 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: what she gave up with the tight end. Hockinson had 387 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: a big game in a week sixteen. He had a 388 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: big game last Sunday, and you knew you were gonna 389 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: get that was gonna happen if you're gonna put double 390 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: team eighteen so often. So the problem with the Eagles 391 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: is not only that the quarterback and tuck it and 392 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: run any play in the game, but it's also that, 393 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: you know, they got literally three white outs that can 394 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: beat you. Like people don't even know who Quez Watkins 395 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: is good, but he's got it. He got jets, he 396 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: flies okay, So if you get him on any kind 397 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: of crossing route, he's gonna run away from people. You 398 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: get him on a vertical, he's gonna run away from people. 399 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 1: And all anybody talks about is eleven and Davante Smith. Um, 400 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: But they got three white outs that can beat you. 401 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: They got a tight end that can beat you, you know. 402 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: So it's hard to say I'm gonna take so I 403 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: think what you'll see waink doing is on different downs 404 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: and distances, especially on third down, who does he want 405 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: to take out? You can't take everybody out. You're trying 406 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: to take Eleven out because you think he might be 407 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: running a slant. You're trying to take Davante Smith out 408 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: because you think it's gonna be be some kind of 409 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: deep en route. Um. I think he's gonna have to 410 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: pick and choose who he wants to eliminate. So, Mike, 411 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: the Eagles finished with seventy sacks this year. First of all, 412 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: let that settle in how crazy that number is. Seventy 413 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: sacks is ridiculous. Plus they have two really good cover corners. 414 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: How do you attack that? If you're the Giants offense 415 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: knowing you know you've an offensive line that's been better, 416 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: but it still isn't you know, like a Philadelphia Eagle 417 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: top three unit, and your wide receivers while like you're, 418 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: they're feisty, they're good, they get open, they play hard. 419 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: You know they're gonna struggle to run away from maybe 420 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: these corners. How do you approach that? If you're Brian Dable, 421 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: Mike Kafka and trying to run your offense against the 422 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: Eagles on some Saturday night. I think it's similar to 423 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: last week. In all honesty, I think I think Daniel 424 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: Jones is the key to the whole thing, and I 425 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: think you gotta be able to run the ball efficiently 426 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: with him. Okay, um, I don't know if you're gonna 427 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 1: run at seventeen times again or not, But if Daniel 428 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: Jones is not able to either scramble effectively or in 429 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: the planned quarterback run game efficiently gain up gain four 430 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 1: or five six yards. Every time he does that, I 431 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: think the Giants are gonna struggle. Okay, so I think 432 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: Daniel jones legs are really important again this week. Um. 433 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: I also think again, I think offensively, the Giants have 434 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: done a great job situationally getting guys open, and you 435 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: know it. I just there's no how do I put 436 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: this there? There's no magic potion. The Eagles have better players. Okay, 437 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: they do, and and the Giants know it. The Eagles 438 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: know it. But there are ways to scheme guys open 439 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: and they're And to me, you can't just keep being 440 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 1: in third nine all day long, Okay, you gotta gain 441 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: your original first down. Daniel Jones has to take pressure 442 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: off the offense with his legs. If if they stifled 443 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones with his legs, I think it's gonna be 444 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: a tough day for the Giants. Fair enough, Mike two 445 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: more real quick big picture? How do you see the 446 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: larger playoff pictures in both conferences? Right now? I think 447 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: the NFC is pretty open. Dallas, I thought made a 448 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: pretty good statement on Monday Night against Tampa more talented team, 449 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: but they you know, they played well after having a 450 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: bad last game of the year. I think that game 451 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: against San Francisco is gonna be fun. And then boy, 452 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: the game you have, I mean, that's gonna be fantastic. 453 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Joe Burrow, I think we're gonna have 454 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: a fun few weeks here in the NFL playoffs. I 455 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: think there's any doubt. I mean, um, in the NFC. 456 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,959 Speaker 1: From a talent perspective, I think Philadelphia and San Francisco 457 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: have the most talent. Um. I think Dallas, you know, 458 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: you don't trust d Allae because they're they're not consistent, 459 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: but you know, they turned it on against Tampa Bay. 460 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: And I think the Giants are just a pain in 461 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,239 Speaker 1: the butt. They're so well coached, so tough. Um is 462 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: this the Giants year? I don't know, you know, I 463 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: think the Giants have to get better over time, but 464 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: the Giants can beat anybody just because of the way 465 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: they play and how they're coached and their quarterbacks. So UM. 466 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: In the NFC, it's really intriguing. And I think in 467 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: the a f C, you know, Kansas City, Cincinnati, Buffalo, 468 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: I mean, all three of those teams can win a 469 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: super Bowl in my opinion. Now, Cincinnati's challenge, and I 470 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: just spent three hours watching their tape this morning going offense. Um, 471 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: their offensive lines beat up there there. They've got three 472 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: starters that we're out in the second half the other day, 473 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: and trying to call plays with three of your five 474 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: starters out of the offensive line is a hard things 475 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: actually in a playoff game. So I think the health 476 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: of the offensive line is critical to Cincinnati. But you know, 477 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: I think the five Super Bowl I mean the three 478 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: a FC teams I think can win a Super Bowl, 479 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: and I think the two NFC teams Philly and San 480 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: Francisco can win a Super Bowl. Alright, Mike, Finally, I'll 481 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: be interviewing Eric Galco, who runs the Shrine Bowl, in 482 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: about thirty minutes. I was watching some of the Shrine 483 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: guys as I was getting ready to do this interview 484 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: with you, to prepare for that interview. Are we gonna 485 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: see some Mike Mayock draft evaluation at some point this 486 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: spring before the draft? I doubt it. I've spent I've 487 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: spent most of my time watching NFL tape this year 488 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: because of what I'm doing with Westwood One Radio, so uh, 489 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: I think I doubt it. Just short answer, fair enough, Mike. 490 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: It was a pleasure talking to you man. You do 491 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,479 Speaker 1: a great job. Thank you so much for the time. 492 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 1: You're very generous with it. And we'll talk to you 493 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: ro soon. All right, Thank you, John, good luck. This 494 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: week Mike Mayock and the Johnson A podcast brought to 495 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: you by p s c and G Energy Efficiency for 496 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: game time and anytime. VI is it p CEG dot com, 497 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: slash giants for discounts, rebates at home energy assessments for 498 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: Mike Mayack. I'm John Schmock. We'll see you next time 499 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: on the Johnts Little Podcast