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Speaker 2: your friends. Big show today. My guy Derek Ray, who

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Speaker 2: the Florida State Seminals, one of the more iconic college

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Speaker 2: football programs the last I don't know, thirty five plus years. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: they're good and they're gonna be good for a while.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it was fun interview. Hopefully you guys enjoy

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Speaker 2: invited me last year to LSU Florida State opening night

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Speaker 2: joined by a guy I once knew when he was

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Speaker 2: Derek Ray. What is up, Brood?

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Speaker 1: You having me on? It's funny, you know, full circle.

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Speaker 1: We've known each other for what fifteen plus years now?

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Speaker 2: Long time. I think you were in my roommate early on,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thankfully, I know they're right people and cover up

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Speaker 2: How long have you had this job?

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Speaker 1: Going into my third season? So it got hired and

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Speaker 2: Okay, we'll go into the job. But you told me

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just I mean I remember a year ago at

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Speaker 2: So the transfer portal, you know, Keon is at Michigan State.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a little bit of a pre existing

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Speaker 2: I mean that first game he played for you guys

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Speaker 2: Thing, you know, speaking. I want to dive into your

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot of conversation. I'm sure you hear

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Speaker 2: How does that? Is that a weird situation for you?

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Speaker 1: Specifically it is and the rules are ever changing. We're

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Speaker 1: to Tallahassee and Florida State.

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Speaker 2: How does that play out? Obviously we read about like

434
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Speaker 2: head coaches, you know, the agents and stuff. But when

435
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Speaker 2: Mike Norvell and Florida State are interested in you, how

436
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Speaker 2: does that materially? Do you get a phone call or

437
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Speaker 2: a text? Does it go through the head coach? How

438
00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 2: does that play out?

439
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a couple different So you know, there's

440
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Speaker 1: a few mutual friends that we had on staff. So

441
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Speaker 1: Marcus Woodson, who was on staff at that point, you know,

442
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,199
Speaker 1: him and I had worked together at Fresno State. And

443
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,800
Speaker 1: then there's another there's a West Coast scout that I

444
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Speaker 1: had known and you know, keep his name out of

445
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,159
Speaker 1: this one, but he had kind of asked me. He goes, Hey,

446
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,159
Speaker 1: they might have this opening year and they're creating a

447
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,719
Speaker 1: general manager role, and I think you'd be perfect for it.

448
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,199
Speaker 1: He goes, I know you've met coach Norvel before, but

449
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 1: you know, would you be interested? In the beginning, it

450
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 1: was happy. I was like you know, I have to

451
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 1: hear more about it, but you know, and then you

452
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,880
Speaker 1: start thinking, it's you know, Florida state and all those things,

453
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,200
Speaker 1: and what it's going to present. I lived, I'd never

454
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Speaker 1: been at that time when that first interest phone call happened,

455
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 1: I'd never been to the state of Florida, and so

456
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Speaker 1: we just so happened to be going the next week.

457
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Speaker 1: We were visiting a young man down in Tampa. And

458
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Speaker 1: so till the time that I stepped foot in Tallahassee,

459
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Speaker 1: I'd only been in the state of Florida for about

460
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Speaker 1: eighteen hours or so. That's it. Never been to Tallahassee before.

461
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Speaker 1: And you know, the hardest thing about it was, I

462
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Speaker 1: was riding around with Coach Smith and you know, Mike

463
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 1: Marvel's calling, man, you know, it's on Apple car plane.

464
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,120
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, what's going on there? So you're balancing

465
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Speaker 1: that and both were understanding. And I've never been the

466
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Speaker 1: type to try to leverage situations in that. I've never

467
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Speaker 1: believed in it that way, just trying to be honest

468
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Speaker 1: and upfront and looking for the fit. The fit was there,

469
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Speaker 1: and so there was a couple of face times, and

470
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Speaker 1: there was a couple of different phone calls that took place,

471
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Speaker 1: but there was never an interview, really an a formal interview.

472
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Speaker 1: Coach Schnorbell was really the only person that I discussed

473
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Speaker 1: with besides Bruce Warwick, and it was an easier process

474
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Speaker 1: and it ended up getting hired luckily, and came out

475
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Speaker 1: here the day after signing to in February and landing,

476
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Speaker 1: and I'll ask him like, oh, there's not as many

477
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Speaker 1: palm trees as I expected there to be.

478
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Speaker 2: So I've never been there, but I don't think palm

479
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:12,479
Speaker 2: trees when I think Tallassey. You'd obviously, you know, you

480
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Speaker 2: had told me before you had turned down other pretty

481
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Speaker 2: prominent jobs when you were at Oregon State, So you

482
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Speaker 2: don't know this guy, you know a little bit like

483
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 2: Jonathan Smith, clearly a big you know, trajectory's pointing at

484
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Speaker 2: the sky. But besides, just how'd you ultimately make the decision?

485
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Speaker 2: Is it just black and I can't turn down Florida

486
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Speaker 2: State or Oh.

487
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Speaker 1: I've tried to never make a decision off of money

488
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Speaker 1: or the logo or the play or a place. Really,

489
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Speaker 1: and you know, I think you looked at kind of

490
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Speaker 1: the landscape of college football and what it was becoming

491
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Speaker 1: and you know, trying to align yourself with the university

492
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 1: who is going to be in those conversations, you know,

493
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: studying the roster of what they were going to have,

494
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Speaker 1: but also understanding the person that you were going to

495
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Speaker 1: go work for and have the pleasure to serve with.

496
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Speaker 1: You know, I can't say enough great things about Coach

497
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Speaker 1: Morville and the things he's done in Tallahassee in his

498
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: time here and even before. But the man, the character,

499
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Speaker 1: the integrity, and the leadership that he provides on a

500
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Speaker 1: daily basis, Like, there's just not a better person that

501
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Speaker 1: I would want, you know, to do that with. And

502
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Speaker 1: you know, the vision that was aligned of what we're

503
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Speaker 1: trying to create. Our athletic director had just been hired

504
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: the month before I got here, you know, you or

505
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 1: spend the time with the Dallas Cowboys, with USC with

506
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 1: Alabama and knowing what that looks like. The investment that

507
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: was going to get continue to pour in. They're just

508
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: getting ready to hire a new president, the new facility

509
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,439
Speaker 1: that will be opened here in twenty twenty five, our

510
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: new stadium that's going to be done in twenty twenty five.

511
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: We're putting four hundred million dollars of investment in facilities

512
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Speaker 1: just for football in the next eighteen months. That are

513
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Speaker 1: all happening right you know, behind me and in front

514
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Speaker 1: of me right now as I look at my office

515
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: and so you look at all those things align and

516
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 1: you're like, hey, then you look at the history of

517
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: Florida State and the vision of everything that was getting sold,

518
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Speaker 1: and you're like, this thing is like too good to

519
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Speaker 1: turn down. I don't know how many more of these

520
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 1: opportunities I'm in to have and ants and so far,

521
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 1: so good.

522
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say, so you get hired, what's the first task?

523
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Speaker 2: I mean, is just immediately going to the bunker with

524
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Speaker 2: coach and trying to figure out or do you kind

525
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 2: of have a good idea because you get hired after

526
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Speaker 2: the recruiting When you get.

527
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Speaker 1: Hired, yeah, I got hired after it got hired earlier

528
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Speaker 1: before the recruiting period closed. Obviously kept it quieter before

529
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Speaker 1: until that broke. You know, first task was really just

530
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Speaker 1: to listen and understand. And I've never been a believe

531
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Speaker 1: a believer in just coming in and let's make wholesale

532
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Speaker 1: changes on everything. Because it was clear like there was

533
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Speaker 1: a lot of great things that were already happening. There's

534
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: so many great people involved here. There's so many great

535
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Speaker 1: people doing the right way. But so I wanted to

536
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Speaker 1: come down and I wanted to sit down with everyone

537
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Speaker 1: and just hear everyone's words and you know, thoughts on

538
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Speaker 1: how things were going to be going. Hey, what are

539
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: a couple ideas and what can improve? Tell me things

540
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: that I need to know that I don't know. You know,

541
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: we're just different things and slight tweaks. And so my

542
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Speaker 1: plan when I sat down with Coach was saying, you know,

543
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna kind of listen for the first couple

544
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Speaker 1: of weeks. Then we're going to slowly implement different changes

545
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 1: and things of what I think need to be addressed

546
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: and changed, and then you know, six months from then,

547
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 1: hopefully it's unrecognizable and we'll make a couple couple different weeks.

548
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: And so we did that, and you know, the staff

549
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 1: that we had in place that was already existing, and

550
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: the staff that we brought in, you know, John Garrett

551
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: and Justin Krause arrived at the same time with me

552
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: working on our offense and defensive scouts. John's now at

553
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: Duke as the general manager, and JC is still here

554
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 1: both of those guys have an high NFL experience, you know, John,

555
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: you know coaching in the NFL, being a prior head

556
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: coach and obviously has spent some time in Corvallis as well.

557
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Speaker 1: So just kind of implementing different things and changes and

558
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Speaker 1: structures in place. And you know, recruiting is just how

559
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: recruiting comes down to communication in my opinion, and personnel

560
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 1: and talent evaluation is how can you get all parties

561
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Speaker 1: to be on the same page to where everything has

562
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: you know, the same heartbeat and everything is pumping too

563
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 1: the same organs of what you needed to go to.

564
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: And so if you have a coaching staff as an

565
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 1: arm and your recruiting staff as an arm and your

566
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: personnel's staff as a lag, you need to make sure

567
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: that blood's getting pumped to the proper places. And so

568
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: a centralized location for all information to be accessible for

569
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Speaker 1: all and making sure language was a force multiplier of

570
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: having everyone in the same evail terminology, you know, the

571
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: same ranking system, the same keys of what we're looking for,

572
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: those player profiles of exactly what ideally we want them to

573
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: look like when they we're recruiting them. That also look

574
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Speaker 1: like when they're their senior year, and you know, just

575
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: doing some numbers and being an analytically based because sometimes

576
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: you do go in with a bias, right, but the numbers,

577
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: you know, numbers don't lie, but people do, right, and

578
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: people tweak those numbers, and you know, what do the

579
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,959
Speaker 1: numbers say? Do I feel that same way? But can

580
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 1: I do a study that might actually confirm or disprove

581
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: what I feel already and try to take as much

582
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: bias out? And how can I be an asset and

583
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: making sure that coach has the best information that he

584
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: can make the best decisions for Florida State in the program?

585
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: So what does a GM do?

586
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to ask that question a lot a

587
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: lot of people have. Man, you got a great job.

588
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 1: You know, just sit there and watch the whole day,

589
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: like I wish that was the case. You know. The

590
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 1: simple way to put it is, you know, making sure

591
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: that we retain and we have the best roster every

592
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,239
Speaker 1: single every single Saturday that we go out there and

593
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: so constantly improve in the roster. Any way that we

594
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: can improve that, you know, daily, and a couple of

595
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: different ways. That's done in development, that's done in talent acquisition.

596
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: But that's also done in retention as well, and so

597
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: I think, like when you look at it, there's so

598
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: many people involved. You know, as it comes to recruiting,

599
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: it's not just acquisition, it's how you're marketing yourself, right,

600
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: it's the customer service that you're providing. And our recruiting

601
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 1: operation staff does a phenomenal job of making sure that

602
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: the experience when someone comes on campus is a first

603
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: clap class experience from the time they step foot to

604
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: the time they leave visits now, especially official visits, it's

605
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: like an all inclusive vacation and it needs to be

606
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: that way. And so if you and I decided, hey,

607
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: let's go down to the Bahamas, we're going to feel

608
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: a certain type of way. If we go to the concierge

609
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: desk and we're not greeted with a smile, well that's it.

610
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: And you need to be on point every single time

611
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: when someone's coming on campus because it needs to be

612
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: serviced with a smile. And so there's a lot of

613
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: intricacies that do go into that, but the oversight is

614
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: something I have the responsibility to have every single day

615
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: of that and making sure we're providing that experience.

616
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: How many people we have working for you.

617
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: We have nineteen full time people and the recruiting personnel

618
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: or scouting staff, and then we have about sixty student

619
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: interns and then about fifteen fifteen content folks.

620
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Speaker 2: You know what's funny is I tell people all the

621
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: time the biggest benefit I had was cal Pauly, which

622
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 2: was really tiny, and when we were at Fresnel State

623
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: wasn't much bigger. And you hear like me, and you're

624
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 2: a great example, right, you immediately got to do a

625
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: lot as a nineteen year old. How difficult is this

626
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: like the Hunger Games with these guys? Because I would

627
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: imagine a lot of these students on campus aspire to

628
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: have a role like you did or do what I

629
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: ended up doing. How do you it was just me

630
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: and you? Right, how do you? That's got to be tough?

631
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: I mean are you managing that group? I mean is

632
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: there infighting? You know? Because just the competition, it's like

633
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: it's like a separate team.

634
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: And the way the games changed, Like you need all

635
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: those folks, and you know, even our students, the amount

636
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: that they sacrifice they choose. Hey, I'm I'm going to

637
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: give up my whole game day so I can put

638
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: Florida State in a better position to recruit someone. And

639
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: I mean when you think about a game day here

640
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: in Tallassee, like game day is a big event obviously

641
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: the sides of the football game and everything else that

642
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: goes into it.

643
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 2: He yeah, well, if you got twenty people doing it,

644
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: how many applicants do you have for those jobs?

645
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: Last year? So last year we had five hundred people

646
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: that apply to Jamie Jesus and it's it's it's a

647
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: volunteer job too, And so there's five hundred people that

648
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: wanted experience, and you know, you win. Obviously, people want

649
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: to be a part of things. And because early I

650
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: think the first time when we opened this back up,

651
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: when I'd gotten in here, we only had about ten

652
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: to twelve student interns. And I said, okay, we need

653
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: to we need to open this up and create just

654
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: to move people and provide the best experience we can.

655
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: And I think at that time we had thirty applicants.

656
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: And so just getting a word and you know, speaking

657
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: at different classes and advertising that. And there's forty four

658
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: thousand students that go to Florida State. You know, there's

659
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: people big school and be involved and so how can

660
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: you showcase that and making sure that you're providing an experience.

661
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: But also, you know, I tell them all the time,

662
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: I want them to grow and be better versions of

663
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: everyone around to where hopefully they can learn from some

664
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: of my prior mistakes that I've made and you know,

665
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: things I wish I would have done better when I

666
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: was growing up and younger, and you know, here like

667
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm an open book and try to be a resource

668
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: as much as I can. But I think that, you know,

669
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: I'm thankful for those individuals that do sacrifice.

670
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: That time when we were at Fresno State, when I

671
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 2: was there with you, it might have changed when de

672
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: Ruder came in. The coaches would go out in the

673
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: spring and this as well before the transfer portal so

674
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: separate that would bring back you group of guys that

675
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: would fit, you know, the presdo state level for then

676
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 2: coach Hill myself true whatever to watch and kind of

677
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: whittle down. In the NFL, the scouting department watches the

678
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,719
Speaker 2: guys and then whittles it down for the coaching staff.

679
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: How is that? Where are you guys on that? Like

680
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: your coaches are out spring recruiting. Are they bringing you

681
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: back guys or have you already given them guys to

682
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,239
Speaker 2: go see. Obviously your program is a little unique. You're

683
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: not looking at everybody. How does that play out.

684
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little it's a good question. It's a

685
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: little bit of both. You know, the majority of those

686
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: times that they're going out to see someone. So the

687
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: spring period's changed. Now they're allowed to have contact with

688
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: the you know, with the juniors, so they're allowed to

689
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: sit down at the school and have actual face to

690
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: face contact with them, which back then you couldn't do.

691
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: This is the first year they're allowing that a.

692
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: Guy who's a sophomore now going into his junior year,

693
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,719
Speaker 2: or a junior is going into a senior year.

694
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: Junior who's going into a senior year. Okay, And so

695
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: that's a lot of time we're it's spent there, but

696
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: also the evaluation in the spring moments, and you know,

697
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: if there's someone that we're not aware of, obviously that's

698
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: good that they're coming back with that. But then we've

699
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: done a poor job on our side of making sure

700
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: our coaches have the best tools to utilize, you know,

701
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: their resources. But it can happen a couple different ways,

702
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of you know, it's not the

703
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: days of now with huddle and social media. It's hard

704
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: to find a diamond in the rough because chances are

705
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: he's been watched and evaluated by someone. That does happen.

706
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: But I think the area that we recruit, you know,

707
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: it's there's a lot of people that go through, so

708
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: there's not any secrets that are left out there.

709
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 2: What's the kid's name who was disdrafted by the Saints

710
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: at Oregon State?

711
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: Tall the Esa Fuaga.

712
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: So when you're at Oregon State, probably a lot of

713
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: similarities to Fresno State. You kind of have to see

714
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: the bigger picture, like a lot of those guys aren't

715
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: getting recruited by you know, programs like Florida State. Now

716
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: in your role, like would you even did you watch

717
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: him in high school?

718
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: So tall? The essay he was when he was actually

719
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: he came out in the class, he was the COVID year,

720
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: he was from Mount Tahoma, he had a lot, he

721
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: had the majority that packed twelve and.

722
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: A lot of so he was a relatively bigger recruit.

723
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: But like, would you guys at Florida State because you're

724
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: just kind of recruiting the cream of the crop, Like

725
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 2: how do you balance of like, well, we might have

726
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: something here, but he doesn't have Alabama LSU, Like, do

727
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: you guys even concern because that was a famous Sabin thing,

728
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 2: Like he wasn't as concerned like if he liked the

729
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: guy Atmari Cooper, I don't give a shit at LSU

730
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: and George and Florida don't like I've taken him. How

731
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: does the balance of like, well, is this guy quite

732
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: good enough? Or like this is our type guy?

733
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: We're going to star evaluation, trust our own eyes and

734
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: not We're not going to have lean on anyone else

735
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: to confirm of what we see. And that's one thing

736
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: our coaching staff and coach Mornvelle do a phenomenal job

737
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: of just trusting our own opinions. You know, coach Coach

738
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: actually talks about this all the time. No one is

739
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: allowed in the evaluation process to bring up a kid's stars.

740
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: And so when you know, if you talk to coach

741
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: about it, he said, well, he's a forcer. I don't

742
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: want to hear it. I don't care like And so

743
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: we're going to trust our own evaluation in the sense

744
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: of making sure that we're getting the right fit for

745
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: Florida State and so, uh, in all these cases, specifically,

746
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: he'd probably be someone that we to watch just because

747
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: he would have met the parameters we're looking for as

748
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: far as size it goes and that offensive tackle and

749
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: defensive end, pass rusher, quarterback, and those three you'd probably

750
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: go anywhere in the country to go get and we'll

751
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: go anywhere in the country to go get anyone, but

752
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: those three specifically are so unique that you're willing to

753
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 1: travel and you're always looking.

754
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 2: Before we dive into the recent draft class, just on

755
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 2: Mike Norvel, Obviously, you guys had a rough end of

756
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 2: the season with getting left out and Jordan's injury, but

757
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 2: pretty clear you had what ten guys drafted. Your team

758
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: was I mean, defensively it was on another level. And

759
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 2: bringing in key On, I mean, you guys were pretty elite.

760
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 2: And clearly he's i mean talked about immediately as the

761
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 2: Alabama replacement when Nick retires. So what's your experience, what's

762
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 2: your thoughts on coach Novel? I know what you've told me. Personally,

763
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 2: you think he's as good of a play caller as

764
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 2: you think humanly possible.

765
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: Outstanding first of all, outstanding person and the person before

766
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: the coach like you know, the humility, the leadership, all

767
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: the qualities that he has, you know, just to serve

768
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: others and be around and him and I have gotten

769
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: the ability to be pretty close now, you know, I

770
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: think the world of him as a person, as a father,

771
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: as a husband. But also you know, on top of that,

772
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: like he's one heck of a football coach too, you know,

773
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: the ability to motivate, the energy and if you ever

774
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: come to one of our practices, he never stops running.

775
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: I mean he's running the whole time, races the D

776
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: line before every single practice. I mean, he is one.

777
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: But just the ability to instill confidence and the culture

778
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 1: that he's out lay to Florida State, you know, it's

779
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: something that I'm excited about the future and wants to.

780
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: Come safe to say, practices of Florida State aren't exactly

781
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 2: a country club when the pads come on.

782
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: No sir, no sir. But besides maybe the weather in October,

783
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: you know when it's eighty degrees in the high seventies,

784
00:35:55,320 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 1: there's nothing country club about this. Our twenty four period practices, per.

785
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: Okay, let's really quick, just hit on some of your

786
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: top guys. Verse was already there when you got there, correct, Jared.

787
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: Came in and he transferred into January of twenty twenty two.

788
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: Are you the pro liaison four four Saint.

789
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: No Kewan Ratliffe is. But I do have some involvement

790
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: with the with the NFL staff that does come in.

791
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: I'd imagine you know a lot of those guys and

792
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 2: they come to you, Okay, Jared verse story is pretty

793
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 2: well established. Transfers from Albany former tight end, correct puts

794
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: on him to wait, ends up going to the to

795
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: the LA Rams. What's your scattering report on a pretty

796
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: dominant pass rusher for you?

797
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: Jared for outstanding person work, ethic, high motor plays in

798
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 1: with high high intensity about it. Powerful and as best

799
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: of a bowl Russian I've seen in person time is

800
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: what he does as one arm, one arm stuff two arms.

801
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 1: He can bowl and overpower you. You know, I'm excited

802
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: to see what his career is going to unfold. Who

803
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: play in the league for a long long time.

804
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 2: Was he on the fence about coming out two years ago?

805
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: He was on the fence about coming out last year,

806
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: you know, and just made the decision to you know,

807
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: he loved Florida State and who he got to do

808
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: it with and I think a big part of that was,

809
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: you know, there's a core group of guys that decided, hey,

810
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: we want to come back after leading into the bowl game,

811
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: just felt that twenty twenty two could have got gone

812
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: a little bit differently, and they wanted to chase something

813
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: and collectively go into an approach and you know, come

814
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: and plug some pieces in and you know also, you know,

815
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: go go acquire some different now and see what happened

816
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. And you know they did they

817
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:40,479
Speaker 1: did that on the field.

818
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 2: So well, this guy's taking the internet by storm. Keon

819
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: Coleman clearly quite the character. I mean, obviously one of

820
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: the more sought after I mean, what would you say,

821
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 2: one the more sought after guys? In last year's transfer

822
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 2: portal was on everyone's radar. I talked to you in

823
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: the NFL coming out of Michigan State and then the

824
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 2: way that started in that game against LSU, and then

825
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: it was on. It's kind of crazy as the season

826
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,959
Speaker 2: went on. It feels like you got dinged for speed.

827
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: It's funny you bring up Davante also a little bit

828
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: of a ding on him. I'd say that's worked out

829
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 2: pretty well. Uh, just what are your thoughts on just

830
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 2: his game and kind of where he needs to go.

831
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: Is that a fair assessment just separation stuff or just

832
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 2: he's a young he's twenty years old.

833
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he can separate now. And I think

834
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: with key On two, like last year was really his

835
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,479
Speaker 1: first year that he had a full offseason training because

836
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: he was a basketball player in Michigan State too. I

837
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: mean talking to Tom Izzo and those guys, they said

838
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: he was going to start his junior year versus sophomore year.

839
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: So and you know, you always wonder, okay, you're a

840
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: basketball player. You see the high school highlights, and you

841
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: know it's coming up. Today's the year anniversary. He told

842
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: us that, you know, he was going to come to

843
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: Florida State and made a public the next day. But

844
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: his first event was memorial to Coach Norvel's house and

845
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: he reports and he's in skinny jeans, and you know,

846
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: I think it's well documented what happened, but you know

847
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: there's coach has about caball hoop out in front of

848
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 1: his house and Keon goes out there and skinny jeans,

849
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: no warm up and three sixty windmills of dunk and

850
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh boy, we got one. And but the

851
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: person in the athleticism, that's one thing, Like how smart

852
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: he is and how he studies the game. And you know,

853
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 1: the first conversation we had on his official visit, he's

854
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: talking about it's like, okay, ke On, like what happens

855
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: if we don't forget the ball? He goes, well, you know,

856
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna ranch the dB and I'm gonna

857
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: knock him over. He's got family in the stands too,

858
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: And that was his answer, Like he he is study,

859
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: knows it like the back of his hand, understands concepts,

860
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: like it's so so smart of how he understands the game.

861
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 1: I just I truly believe he just scratched the surface.

862
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: Well when's the last time, Josh, I mean, in his

863
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 2: NFL career hasn't had a guy like this. They've had

864
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 2: more speed guys. There. There is a guy I once

865
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 2: heard of that pounded the table for a quarterback coming

866
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 2: out of junior college and wanted him at Fresno Steak.

867
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 2: But you know, according to that person, the coaches and

868
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 2: listened to him, is that is that a true story

869
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 2: out there in the world?

870
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: We all have misses in Hindsight's twenty twenty. I guess

871
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: not missus, but yeah, I did. The Josh was an

872
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: interesting story, and obviously high school, he came to camps

873
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: all the time from fireball, and then when when he

874
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: transferred to the junior college, he ended up sprouting up

875
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: and became his current size. And I remember going up

876
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: to oorg and say like, oh, there's two guys, and

877
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: he was one of them, and we already had a

878
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: quarterback committed at that time, and so oh for two

879
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: and there's a guy on staff that went to Wyoming.

880
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: He remembered the conversations while we got Fresno, and that's

881
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: how he ended up getting brought up to Wyoming.

882
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: I'm sure, you guys, I'm sure. And Recruiting retweeted this

883
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: and had it all over your guys social The video

884
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: of the rams with first running up the stairs and

885
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 2: McVeigh handing him the phone and Braden Fisk just basically

886
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 2: breaking down is probably the coolest video of the entire draft.

887
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 2: Talk to me about him. I guess I wasn't on

888
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 2: him as much you've described him to me offline. Just

889
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 2: your thoughts on him as as a player, and obviously

890
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: as a person, seemed like a pretty high level dude.

891
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 1: Toyeah. They getting ready to go over to an event

892
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: that we had to do, and remember sitting I remember

893
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: sitting there and I'm like, gosh, I hope they captured

894
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: that moment. And I hope that you know, Verth got

895
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: on the phone and all of it, because just the

896
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: reaction of what it would have been. And then we

897
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: got to Texas said, hey, Verse, actually they wanted him

898
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: originally to make the call, the very first call from

899
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: the RAMS, and he didn't get there because of traffic

900
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: and you know, just to be a fly on the

901
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: wall and what that is. But Braiden, Braiden came in.

902
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: You know, he gets in the portal coming out of

903
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: coming out and he he had to have shoulder surgery.

904
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: And so that was the very first conversation and coach

905
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: just to let you know, I'm gonna have to have

906
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: shoulder surgery. Still want to come down, and you know,

907
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: we battled. There's other schools involved with him, and he

908
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: had a lot of great options and brought him down here.

909
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: So his first practice that we actually got to see

910
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: him do anything was the fall camp and so you

911
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: can all see the athleticism, what it was on tape

912
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: and whether it's going to be. But the very first

913
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: fall practice, he goes up to Jay and he goes, hey,

914
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: it's you and I in every single group, Like, I'm

915
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna be faster than you. I'm gonna have

916
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: more sack, all of it. And so, you know, he

917
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: got to the point and he had some goals written

918
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: up throughout the year and he was getting frustrated too,

919
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: and you know, not that it was affecting him, but

920
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: you know, he wanted so many sacks and so many TFLs,

921
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: and you know, he had good years and he had

922
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: he just didn't have the production to necessarily show for it.

923
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: And so we're through eight games and I think he

924
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: only had half half for a TfL. That was it. Well,

925
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: in the next four he absolutely goes on a tear,

926
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: and the ACC Championship goes on a tear. And you know,

927
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: he works his tail off and the effort that he

928
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: plays with, and you know he's his knock obviously, Oh

929
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: hey he has short arms, but that's not turn on

930
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: the tape and that fifty five was everywhere.

931
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like as a Niner guy, I mean

932
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 2: those two guys at a level of physicality and toughness

933
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: that you can't replace with Aaron Donald. But it's pretty

934
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: clear they knew what they were looking for. And I

935
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 2: know they a lot of people like you can't trade

936
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 2: up to get fists. But like you said, when you

937
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 2: pair him with his buddy, I don't know. I think

938
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: I'd be shocked if these two guys aren't pretty good

939
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: for the Rams, won't you.

940
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: I got a potional on that call, and it was

941
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: just so cool to see in my brotherhood. And those

942
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: guys were together for a year, and I mean that's it.

943
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 1: They were together for a year. That's all they spent together.

944
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: And that was the reaction. So I mean it speaks

945
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: to the culture of what coach Morvell's built.

946
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 2: Okay, the forty nine ers at the end of the

947
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 2: second round took Ronaldo Green, who I think it's safe

948
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: to say as a defensive player, his tape against Neighbors

949
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 2: in week one, just in an individual game is probably

950
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: as good as any. And your experience about him tell

951
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 2: me about the guy and the player.

952
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, doesn't. I mean, he's he's such, he's so even

953
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: keeled as a corner. I mean, there's no panic in

954
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: his game. He's consistent in his technique. You know, can run,

955
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: can play press man, and I think you look at

956
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: our defense, you know ninety percent of the time we're

957
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: going to play press man or some version of it.

958
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: And you know that ends up helping those guys. And

959
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: so you had him and you know Jerry and Jaron

960
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: Jones playing and playing nickel for us and then ventral

961
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: cypress on the other side, and you know the two

962
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: corners that we have this year are going to be really,

963
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: really good as well. But Ernardo is so impressed with

964
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: you know, the growth that he showed and everything, and

965
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: you never had to worry about, right, And it's just like, hey,

966
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: you know that he's going to be out there and

967
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: he's going to make more plays than he gives up,

968
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: and sometimes he might not give up anything.

969
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: Watching just some highlights of him, it seems like a

970
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 2: pretty tough corner, like he ain't afraid, no.

971
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: He will stick it in there, He'll be physical, he's

972
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: not afraid of much. And you know, another great, great

973
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: young man. So happy for him, and I'm excited that

974
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: he gets to to go out to the left coast.

975
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 2: Now Trey Benson, Yeah, awesome.

976
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: You know, Trey going to Arizona. You know, was at

977
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: Oregon originally transferred at a catastrophic knee injury where he

978
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 1: did everything. But you know, he got here in twenty

979
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: twenty two, transferred in from Oregon. You know, he's the

980
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: first person in Florida State history against Boston College in

981
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: twenty two to run for a touchdown and return a

982
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: kick for a touchdown in the same game. And you

983
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: think of all the great history and of all the

984
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: great players in Florida State, he was the first person

985
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: in history to do that. You know, how he carries himself,

986
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: how professional he is, and just the time that he spends.

987
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: And you know he's run, he's a bigger back. He

988
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: runs physical, but he's got true top end speed. I

989
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,919
Speaker 1: mean there's four different times last year he's hitting twenty

990
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 1: one plus miles an hour in our GPS. I mean,

991
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 1: he's he's got all of it. So I'm excited for him,

992
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 1: and it'll be fun to watch him play against Braden

993
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: Fisk and Jared versus at least twice.

994
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: Here heay went on from a draft standpoint, Jordan Travis,

995
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 2: who you know that the injury was obviously sucked I mean,

996
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 2: if you like football, even if you're not a Florida

997
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: State fan, that that was awful. Obviously, his medical must

998
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 2: be going pretty well to get drafted. Just he when

999
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 2: was healthy last year, you guys were, I mean, let's

1000
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: face it, a national title contender. And then he goes

1001
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: down with just what's your thoughts on Jordan Trouse before him?

1002
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: And you know, I think you know Jeordan. You look

1003
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: at the type of leader he is and the type

1004
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 1: of person. You know, the quarterback stuff speaks for itself,

1005
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: but you know the ability that he has to extend plays,

1006
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: to create plays when something's not there, but also you know,

1007
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: pushing the fall ball down field, and you know, I

1008
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: think he's only he again is only probably scratching the

1009
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: surface too and what he's going to be. But you know,

1010
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: spoke to him a couple of days ago and just

1011
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: his recovery of what that's going to be, and they

1012
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: expect him to kind of be cleared for fall camp.

1013
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 2: How long did the the final four that video went

1014
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 2: pretty viral of your players in my how long did

1015
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 2: that linger just in the program?

1016
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was hard for it to linger.

1017
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: I mean I look back in de summer and coaching.

1018
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: I talk about this often. That was probably one of

1019
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: the more challenging times that I've been a part of,

1020
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: just in anything in life. So we get back from

1021
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: the a SEC Championship. I think I got back to

1022
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: my house at four thirty in the morning, and so

1023
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: we're in the selection show at eleven am eleven thirty

1024
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: the next day. Yeah, and you have no insights, contrary

1025
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: to what people think, like, no one knows what's going

1026
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: to happen, there's no tips, there's no hey, at least

1027
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: one person in your an athletic department knows. No one knows,

1028
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: and so that was truly the live and rob reaction. Well,

1029
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: coach and I had to be out on the plane.

1030
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: We were going out recruiting, and I traveled with him

1031
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: when we go out recruiting. We were out on the plane,

1032
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: you know, three hours later from that. And so just

1033
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: for our team to have that, and we had five

1034
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: coaches that were on the road that had left Charlotte

1035
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: and stayed overnight that we're going to different locations because

1036
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: we're right in the middle of a contact period as well.

1037
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: And there's one of our coaches who had landed and

1038
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: you know, he just saw and didn't think anything of it,

1039
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 1: didn't really know the semi final locations and he's like, oh, okay,

1040
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: we're playing Georgia and didn't realize. Still someone at the

1041
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: rental car attendant man Florida state you all got you know,

1042
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: that's messed up, and he's like, what are you talking about?

1043
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: We're playing Georgia and then he looks down and that's

1044
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: how he found out. And so there's different ways that

1045
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: found out. I just feel so bad for our players

1046
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: and the opportunity that you know should have been there.

1047
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: But you know, that is history, and that was in

1048
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. We're on the twoy twenty four.

1049
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 2: Now for sure. How many gms travel with their coach?

1050
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: Why can you do that?

1051
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: I think a few guys do. I think the amount

1052
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: of conversations that that happen, it's important in the amount

1053
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: of ever changing roster. But there's also a lot of

1054
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: trust and the confidence that we have in our office

1055
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: here to make sure everything's run right. But you know,

1056
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: the the ever changing roster and being able to be

1057
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: there that does save a lot of phone calls.

1058
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 2: How often you guys run into like Kirby Smart or

1059
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 2: lank if it or Nick Saban or these guys. You

1060
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: guys cross paths a lot or is it pretty not very.

1061
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 1: Often because when I go out on the road, I'm

1062
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: not allowed to go win anywhere. So I just sit

1063
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 1: in the car and you know, turn on the turn

1064
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: on the internet, or answer different calls or checking with

1065
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: our coaches just to make sure I can provide those updates.

1066
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:41,919
Speaker 1: You know, there's a couple of times you do cross

1067
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: some people, but not not very often. And we didn't.

1068
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: We didn't very much last year.

1069
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: Okay, looking at the draft, you lost a lot, you know,

1070
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 2: two defensive linement high your star receiver, your quarterback, you're

1071
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 2: running back, you're starting two corners. You're got to be

1072
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 2: a top five team. Is it easier to transition now

1073
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 2: with the transfer portal? Obviously you bring in DJ Is

1074
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 2: that I am not saying that right? Who ungay?

1075
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: Who? Well close, we'll get you there.

1076
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: So talk to me about the transition. Expectations are going

1077
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: to be high, playoffs expand, so that's we can breathe

1078
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 2: a little easier. You would have you would have been

1079
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 2: in Uh, how'd you let's start with the quarterback? How

1080
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 2: do you you need a quarterback? How'd you pick him,

1081
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: how does that transpire?

1082
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, looking for the fit and obviously our quarterback room.

1083
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: You know, Brock Glynn you know, played playing a few

1084
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: games for us last year, started the a SEC Championship,

1085
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: started the bowl game against Georgia, and played in some

1086
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 1: other games, and you know, just where we were age

1087
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,479
Speaker 1: wise and everything, We're always going to take the best

1088
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: fit in what made the most sense for us to do.

1089
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: We had another young man that decided to transfer out,

1090
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: and so there was a need there in our quarterback room.

1091
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: And you know, the more and more we got involved

1092
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 1: with dj the the more we liked what we saw

1093
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: and just the ability for what he is and being

1094
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 1: able to push the ball downfield and you know match

1095
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: up with the receivers that we had coming in or

1096
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: that were we were actively going to get. You know,

1097
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: I'm just excited at what he is as a player,

1098
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: and you know, just being out there for spring and

1099
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: you know, he can push the ball, he can make

1100
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: all the throws, he's athletic, he can extend, I mean

1101
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 1: he could. He's got as strong as an arm as

1102
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: I've as I've been around, and I mean that's all

1103
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that we've been around and so I think

1104
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: he's just I'm excited to see him in this offense,

1105
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: that's for sure.

1106
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 2: I mean it's safe to say. I mean you could

1107
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 2: argue Florida State has been as successful as any of

1108
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 2: these last couple of years in the transfer portal.

1109
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: Right, and then that's you know, coach coach Norton starts

1110
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: and stops Coach Nortvell. I mean, he does an outstanding

1111
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: job evaluating. But just talent is one thing, but fit

1112
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: is a whole another, and just getting the right fit

1113
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: is important for us.

1114
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 2: Do you automatically look at a guy or does he

1115
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 2: have to reach out to you? Like if I'm a transfer,

1116
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 2: if I'm a starter at Frisno State and you know

1117
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 2: nothing about me, whether I'm good or bad, I'm just

1118
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 2: a starter. It's Florida State looking at him? Or does

1119
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 2: there does it have to be powerful? How does that

1120
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 2: play out? Because there's names to get thrown in there.

1121
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: We have a couple of different processes and there's a

1122
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: lot of there's many people that are involved and making

1123
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: sure we're always evaluating what's around us, what's in our conference.

1124
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,959
Speaker 1: Maybe someone we had a previous relationship with or someone

1125
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: who you know might be Hey, we've heard whispers that

1126
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: they're looking to go into the portal. So there's an

1127
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: evaluation in database, much like the NFL was in your time. Right,

1128
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: there's a there's a per side, and there's a college side.

1129
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: For us, there's a high school side, and there's a

1130
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: there's a college side.

1131
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 2: Is that easy to manage for you now or still

1132
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 2: a lot?

1133
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: There's great people that I get to work with every

1134
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: single day that that do make it easy.

1135
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 2: What do you got to do the rest of the spring? Now?

1136
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 2: You guys done?

1137
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're getting ready. We got official visits coming up

1138
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: in the month of June. We got high school camps

1139
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: in the month of June, So we got some other

1140
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: guys that are coming by and uh, getting ready for

1141
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: everything that the month of June does present.

1142
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 2: You better have a smile on your face when they

1143
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 2: show up.

1144
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: Absolutely well, well, good luck.

1145
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 2: Derek, And who knows, maybe next time I talk to

1146
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: you're a national champion.

1147
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, one game at a time. Right now, we

1148
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: open up at Georgia Tech in Ireland in August and

1149
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: looking forward to that event.

1150
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 2: You're going to Ireland to open it up?

1151
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, we get to go to Ireland.

1152
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 2: That's pretty cool. Well, I mean safe to say you

1153
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 2: made the right decision at Florida State. Congrats on all

1154
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: your success, man, it's been really really cool to watch,

1155
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 2: and I watch all your games now and follow your

1156
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: guys program closely. So keep crushing it, bro'. You're an inspiration.

1157
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 2: I'm sure to a lot of people listening to this

1158
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 2: that want to get involved in football. And there's never

1159
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 2: been a better time because all these opportunities in college

1160
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 2: that didn't exist ten years ago. Now you've got the

1161
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 2: NFL and college football and obviously there's just more college

1162
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:46,439
Speaker 2: football team. So it's you're crushing, bro keep it rolling.

1163
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: I appreciate you got to get out here to Tallahassee

1164
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: for a game.

1165
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 2: I definitely do. I will make sure that happens in

1166
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 2: the next couple of years.

1167
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: Well, in twenty five we come out west to you,

1168
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: so we'll worry about twenty four.

1169
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: So calor Stanford, go to Stanford in twenty five US.

1170
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 2: I'd rather come out to you guys than go to

1171
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 2: that you would, Okay, talk to you soon, bro, alright,

1172
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: take care

1173
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: The volume