WEBVTT - Pod Meets Twirl'd: The Traitors 407 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:12.080 Welcome to Pod Meats Twirl, the podcast from two guys 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:13.880 who had never seen an episode of Dancing with the 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:17.520 Stars but took it on and walked away experts. So 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:20.680 now we turn to Traders, another show I've never seen, 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:23.959 while Will is convinced he could win it. We are Wilfred, 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:27.320 Allen Ryder Strong. Two best friends, one a TV expert, 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:31.800 one a TV skeptic, both dance scholars, join us as 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:34.760 we step into a castle full of lies, alliances, and 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:38.440 over the top wardrobe choices. This is Pod meets Twirled 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:39.800 Trading Places. 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:41.559 Yes, yes, I. 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:42.960 Don't know why I'm still in the cloak. I gotta 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:44.760 be totally honest with you. Yeah, it's like you either 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:46.600 have to keep it on the entire episode. 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:50.120 Can I tell you what I wanted to wear today? 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:51.159 And I thought I was gonna be able to pull 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:52.519 it off, and it turns out I got rid of them. 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:55.120 I was just gonna do my overalls with nothing underneath. 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:58.320 Ah. Yeah, and I can't find a cord. I must 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:01.240 have just gave it overall I used to do. They're 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:02.960 they're they're the best. I don't know where they are now, 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:06.160 So I don't know if you've experienced this. I've sent 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:09.280 you a couple of things because my Instagram feed is 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:14.080 JUSTU and uh, there's a lot of Trader content out there. 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:17.560 This is like, apparently I feel like I'm getting more 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:19.959 Traders content than I was getting Dancing with the Stars content. 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:24.080 Yeah, I think, I think I'm Yeah. My favorite was 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:27.959 that skit that I sent you, which was a husband 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:31.720 and wife couple doing what breakfast is, Like, God, I 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:34.280 didn't see them. You see it. It's like what if 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:36.480 their husband comes home from work, like the way that 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:40.240 they show up at breakfast for you know, after somebody's 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:42.760 been murdered, and so they do this whole like like 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:44.679 she's eating and then he walks in and then they 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:46.680 just keep zooming in and they keep suoming in in 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:49.560 the tail of their dog wagon, a huge deal of it, 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:51.600 and then right at the end he goes, is that 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:56.000 the last of the smoke salmon? Yeah? And I was like, well, 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:57.200 we should have done this skit. 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:00.920 Yeah, we got to start doing Traders gets. We should, 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:01.680 we really do. 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.840 But yeah, but I've been getting all the Ron Funches 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:09.920 stuff because apparently he's now diagnosed as on the spectrum, right, 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:12.880 which is I get super interesting and he's kind of saying, like, hey, 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:14.600 you called it, Like I guess the audience is the 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:18.040 one that like pointed it out to him and super interesting. 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:22.280 Yeah, and then obviously the Michael Rappaport apology tour is everywhere. 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:24.359 Oh Isy, I haven't getting that. I've just been getting 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:26.680 more bron and then like I said, skits about it 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.320 and like honestly, like I just try and like I 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:31.160 don't want to linger too long on this stuff because 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:32.600 I want my fee to diversify. 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:35.120 Well good, well you're gonna have a bunch of different 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:36.880 points of views about traders. 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.799 So that is that is diverse fight. It's brilliant. You're 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:41.919 gonna get a lot of different things. So I mean, 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:45.040 I don't want to like I don't know why, but 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:46.880 I have this stupid idea that I kind of want 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:49.120 to stick to the show more than like the exterior 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:51.480 content because you know, I felt the super Dancing with 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:53.120 the Stars Like, yeah, I don't want to get But 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:57.320 so so Michael rapper word is apologizing finally, Like yeah, 0:02:57.360 --> 0:02:59.600 he apparently went out and said that he and Culton 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:02.120 they are cool, and then he's you know, was taken 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.480 out of context or he didn't. Yeah, he's he's kind 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:08.919 of apologizing everywhere. Now, okay, yeah, okay, yeah yeah. 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:11.280 And I guess we caught some heat a little bit 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.200 of hate too, because we called out a bunch of 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:15.000 rap report stuff, but we didn't call out any of 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:15.560 Clton stuff. 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:17.480 And I guess Colton has a pretty sketchy pass too, 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:18.840 which I have no idea about. 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:20.799 I didn't neither. I didn't know about my I didn't 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:22.640 know about either of them. Frankly, I'm just so not 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:25.480 in the know of any of this stuff that I 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:27.919 had no idea about any I just I don't and 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:29.600 maybe that I should be doing my due diligence. But 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:31.239 at the same time, I'm not going to deep dive 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:33.200 every single person we talk about it on a reality show. 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:36.240 I'm just not. So it's you know, I had no 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:38.320 idea about any of this stuff. I feel like the 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:40.880 more I know about people, especially with danswer with the stars, 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:43.160 this is certainly the case. The more I know it 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:45.760 kind of took away from me being able to root 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:48.000 for them on the show or or root against it, 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:50.160 like I didn't want. I wanted to judge them based 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.360 on thank you, you know, basically how they were on 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:56.840 screen in this context. So and like you know, with Traders, 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:59.920 it's really a show about you know, showing your person 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:02.960 or not, you know, like that's your or so I 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:04.600 feel like, you know, I kind of want to take 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:07.600 it on its own terms. Yeah, maybe that's not fair. 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:09.119 I don't know. I don't know either. 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.280 I also know that I've read enough stuff about myself 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:13.520 on the Internet that isn't true, and I would say 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:16.359 eighty five percent of it isn't true to where I 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:18.760 just don't believe anything I read. So it's like, oh, 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:21.320 this happened, and this happened. It's like, okay, I I 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:23.080 don't know. I don't know, and I don't believe. 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:24.920 My bottom line right now is that I really wish 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:29.039 Traders was not celebrities. You know, Well that'll be next season. Yeah, 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.640 And I'm totally like I think, I just like I've 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:34.040 decided that that's the way the show because the whole 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.120 point of the show is about judging character, and so 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:40.000 when they come in with like these larger than life personality, 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:44.200 these crafted television personalities, I just lose interest, you know. 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.520 And I realized that people do that now anyway, Like 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.120 on reality shows, they come on with a plan and 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:51.440 a sort of character. But at least that's the game, 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:52.880 do you know what I mean? It's like that's what 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:54.560 they're coming here to do. That they're not bringing the 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.920 extra baggage of so many other Housewives shows or Love 0:04:57.960 --> 0:04:59.480 Island or but. 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:02.359 This is the world, this is the entertainment world without talent. 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.240 So it's just I am my own brand, this is 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:08.040 my character. I'm me And it's like, okay. 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:11.680 Well, it's arguable if there's a talent, right, I mean no, 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:14.080 I don't think it's arguable at all. You don't think 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:16.400 being good at traders is a talent. I think being 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:17.880 good at a game is a talent. I don't think 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:21.960 being on the Real Housewives of anything takes any talent whatsoever. Yeah, 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.040 I don't know about Yeah, it's a reality. 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:26.440 It's there takes no talent to be on the real world. 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:28.520 It takes no talent to be on any of these 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.520 housewives shows. That's not a talent. Getting drunk and being 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:33.400 a bitch and having the camera on you does not 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:34.080 take any talent. 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:36.839 What about just like charisma, you know, which that's different 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:37.239 than talent. 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:39.760 There's some people that are better generally more charismatic than 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.480 other people's that's not an innate talent. I mean there 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.520 are people it's like singing, dancing, acting, These are talents. 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:47.840 These are things you can cultivate, you can work at. Hey, 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.800 I'm a character is not a talent? 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:54.960 Yeah, I honestly, I mean I like my impulses to 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:57.480 agree with you, but I honestly want to leave space 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.240 for the idea. I want to think about this more. 0:05:59.880 --> 0:06:03.520 I like the Christian like, because is charisma worth rewarding? 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:05.440 I mean because in some ways that's a different conversation. 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.839 Is rewarding? Sure? Yeah, but I mean, like, can you 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.600 take credit for charisma? Maybe that's another way to put it. Like, 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:14.479 you know, if you're a charismatic person, Like, isn't that 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.640 in part because you have good social skills and you've 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:20.000 honed them and you've understood like to like how to 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:23.000 make you yourself likable and all that, And so I 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:24.520 would think of that as a talent. 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:26.279 Oh see, I don't. I think of that as a skill. 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:29.520 See that's the thing. A talent and scale are two 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.600 different things. Yeah, I think you're born with talent. Like 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:35.840 if you can't sing, you can't sing. You can't learn 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:37.599 how to sing. You can take singing lessons for the 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:40.120 rest of your life. You can't sing. You just were 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.200 not born with the ability to do that. Now, if 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:44.520 you can sing a little bit, you can take classes 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:47.800 and get better. But if you can't sing, you can't sing. 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:49.880 I don't know if I'm as black and white as you, 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:51.040 I absolutely am. 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:53.279 I'm very hard knows when it comes to talent, because 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:56.480 the idea of nowadays is everybody special. 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:59.760 So no, what about acting? Acting is a talent? So 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:02.279 you were born with your talent you want a hundred percent, 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:04.560 worked hard at it or guide did both? But I 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:05.200 was you. 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:07.159 Have you met how many child actors? Do you know 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:10.480 that we're charismatic but couldn't act myself? 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:12.120 No? See, I disagree. 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:14.600 You didn't like your acting, but you could act, and 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:17.000 the more classes you took you got better at your 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:20.000 at your craft, at your talent. We worked with plenty 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:22.880 of people, plenty of kids that were charismatic and could 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:25.880 remember the lines and newhere to stand that couldn't act. 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:27.680 Those are two very different things. 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.000 Being charismatic and being the kid who can walk into 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:33.120 a party and have everybody's attention is different than than 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:36.440 someone handing you a scene and cold reading hitting the beats, 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.320 knowing how to break down a scene. That's a talent 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:41.600 that's innate, and that's something I think you're born with. 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:43.600 It's just like singing. If you have the talent, you 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:45.080 can get better at it. If you don't, you can 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:45.600 work all day. 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.600 But you're the way you're talking about this, I think 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:49.960 I want to reverse it in mind that you're you're 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:54.239 I think you're born with charisma or like a likability factor, 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:56.400 and then you have to work hard to get the 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:59.200 actual like acting skill. No see, and I disagree one 0:07:59.240 --> 0:07:59.680 hundred percent. 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:01.600 That's why there's people that are two and three and 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:03.240 four years old that used to be on Star Sarch 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.360 five years old that could grab a microphone and sing. 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:09.200 That's not something they learned at three years old, Tiger Woods. 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:13.480 There's an innate talent that is inbred in you that 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:14.880 then can be cultivated. 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:17.040 But and then and then you can get it. 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:21.440 We can get into conversations of healthy cultivation versus unhealthy cultivation, 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:24.480 but if you can't sing, your mom and dad can 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.240 beat you up forever. You ain't never going to learn 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:26.680 how to sing. 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:28.840 I definitely unders I definitely agree in terms of pitch, 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.040 like the ability to hear like your ear, you know, 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:33.520 or carry a tune. There's plenty of people who just 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.880 can't sing. I don't know, man, I am that's fine. 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:38.240 I'm going to think about it some more because I'm 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:40.280 pleased to do. I'm not completely against you. I just 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:42.480 I gotta like absorb and think about these None of 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:46.280 this has anything to do with Traders exactly. Episode seven, 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:51.760 the Black Banquet. Okay, so back to our meta you 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:56.200 know what meta information conversation. You sort of insinuated before 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:58.840 we watched this episode that there was going to be 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:02.240 some big bombshell they were supposed to be. Was talking 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:05.360 about this for months, but there wasn't nothing. Nothing really 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:08.400 that Okay, no, it was. It was a fun episode. 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:10.720 It was a great episode. If anything, the bomb show 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.160 is that the faithful or finally learning how to play 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.400 the game. But they're only learning how to play the 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:19.400 game because they're listening to the Trader. I know. So, 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:23.360 how does Rob compare to the Traders of the past, 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:24.040 because he's I. 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:26.040 Personally think he's the best player I've ever seen. I 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:27.400 think he's phenomenal at this. 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.000 Every time I think, like last time, I thought he 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:33.120 was slipping a little turning on Lisa because of his reign. 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:36.120 But now I'm like, dude, this guy's like he is 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:39.679 poised to just crush everybody in this game. 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.120 Oh yeah, and I don't know if he's brilliant, which 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:45.080 I think he is, or everyone else is just terrible, 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:48.640 which I think is possible. Every time I hear like 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:51.360 Tara Lepinski where she's like, I'm gonna go with my gut, 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:53.480 I'm like, that's going to be wrong, I know. So 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:56.880 you know, there's some people that just don't have that instinct. 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:58.600 And he is crushing it. 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.600 He is crushing it. So Okay. So they left us 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:03.280 hanging last time with this idea that they had to 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:06.599 at this banquet do a murder and playing sight with 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:09.480 the amulet, which I love this whole setup. This is 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:14.680 so fun. It's like it's just murder mystery party stuff. 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:19.719 I love it. And the favorite Yes, But man, I 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:21.880 thought I thought the outfits this is I mean, this 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:25.200 is it. They have like this opera music and everybody 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:29.439 gets an entrance and man and the outfits, my god. Okay, 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:33.559 Candice in the gold juice dress. Okay, I thought it 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:35.760 was more Egyptian, but you're going Medusa I thought it 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:37.640 was like snakes. I thought it was it could have 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:39.720 been Egyptian, but it was like what are you were 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:41.320 going to could look at it. I kept just being like, 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.840 who's wearing that thing? And then oh my god? And 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:49.280 then Lisa in this like sailor. I'm just gonna say it. 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:55.760 She looked like the State Puff marshmallow man. It was like, 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:58.280 and she's like this, she looks like that, She's all 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:00.680 puffed up and she's like, I'm rocking room. I was like, 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:08.000 with laughter, what's happening? What's happening? Because remember he has 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.680 like a doily thing over he's like just and she 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:12.920 has like that with the am you letter on a 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:16.400 class on it. I was dying. I was like, oh 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:23.480 my god, it's yeah, yeah, Lisa State Puff can rena. 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:31.199 State puff State I am stuff puff. 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:38.960 Alright, So she zeros in on Yam Yam, Kristen or 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:42.800 Natalie and uh we you know, they insinuate that she 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.360 kind of targets them all, so we don't get to 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:48.320 know who got murdered. Did you have any guesses at 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:49.920 this point who she was? Who she was? 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:55.000 I figured she was actually going to go for, uh, 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:58.000 your your favorite Natalie Natalie. I thought she was gonna 0:11:58.000 --> 0:11:59.680 I thought she was gonna hit up Natalie. But at 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.160 the same time, she was like, see, this is where 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:04.280 I would think to myself. If I got voted last week, 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:08.439 I was one vote away from from leaving, then your 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:11.800 time is numbered. So take out the person you want 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:14.040 to take out as even just a few and that 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:15.920 would have been Colton. She's like, YO would have come 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:18.400 back on me. It doesn't matter. Your time is numbered. 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:20.679 When that many people are already thinking about you, You're 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:23.440 not going to change seven people's minds. So just take 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:25.079 out the biggest player that you want to take out 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:27.959 and and go out with a revenge killing because you're 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:29.720 you're done, essentially, you got one day left. 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:32.000 That's an interesting move. So I thought she should have 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:34.560 gone for Kristen, because Kristin, I think, is a good player, 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.600 and she's flying under the radar. She's so cool. I know, 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:40.440 I just want to keep seeing her. Honestly, that's what 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:42.240 I assumed that she had done. I thought she just 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:45.839 went for Kristen because m has already been like discussed 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.440 about being you know, murderer, Like he's not really a 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.320 threat in any way, Like you want to keep him around, Yeah, 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.960 whereas like Kristin is like a Kristin and Natalie are 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:59.760 both trying to be strategic in ways. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:00.360 it's tough. 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:03.920 It's tough because it's, yeah, I don't know what you're 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:06.760 what you're playing, who you're playing against, what the point is. 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.400 And they also made it look like any time anybody 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:11.320 could have just walked up and been like hey, nice broach, 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:15.480 like you know, could have killed anybody just randomly by accident. 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.400 So it's yeah, they I think the idea of don't 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.439 touch anybody, don't do anything, it was the smart way 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:22.679 to go. 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:24.760 But yeah, that didn't that didn't last, all right, So 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:28.200 that the group sits down for dinner and Alan shows 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:32.640 up looking like Liberaci's chandelier, Oh my god, ripping and 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:38.319 jewels and jeweled kilts on the side. It was just, yeah, yeah, 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:40.040 this is my favorite. Elton John would have looked at 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.560 him and been like, you know what, buddy, little much, 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:46.360 just a little bit. 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.360 My friend, pull it back a little bit, my friend. Yeah, 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:49.920 but he's fabulous, and I just want to have a 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:51.160 cup of coffee with him, I really do. 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:55.080 He goes. He goes on to tell the story of James, 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:59.800 the second King James, and that they're gonna murder somebody 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:06.120 right there, or that somebody's already been murdered, and then twist, 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:09.200 he explains that the group has the ability for two 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:15.920 saves with this with an antidote and a magic elixir. 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:19.240 Now you're talking my world. Yeah, I was so into this. Yeah, 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:21.440 it was great. I was like, this is a great 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:23.960 twist and like that that makes the whole murder and 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:28.800 playing sight even more interesting. Although you know what we 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:29.240 gotta do. 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.560 I'm just I'm sorry, but I'm just thinking about we've 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:33.840 got to do get all of our nineties friends together 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:38.040 and do a nineties home game one night Traders. Oh yeah, 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.760 like we'll get everybody step by step, full house. Yeah, 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.800 just do rounds of murder family matters. We'll just get 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.520 everybody and we'll just take each. 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:47.280 Other off one by one. 0:14:47.480 --> 0:15:00.640 Yes, that'll be great. 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:08.680 So pretty like immediately this devolves into chaos. Jam Jaham 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:13.680 points to Lisa right away, which is amazing because he's right, 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:17.280 but for the wrong reasons, because he says, you kissed me, 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:20.680 so yeah, I mean, I don't know if that's just 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:22.760 an instinctive thing or if he really did just thought 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:25.120 thought the kiss was weird. What he had actually done 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:31.240 is touched her clasp, which didn't remember about a perfect 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:33.680 nobody even mentioned it again, I know, yeah, you know, 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:38.680 they never caught it. No, yeah, And and then they 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:41.520 really they zeroed in on, you know, jam To have 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:44.440 said the kiss thing, which was right, but then kind 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:47.240 of got railroaded by everybody else pointing out the food situation. 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:51.920 And I thought, uh, you know, Kristen had been eaten 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:55.600 eating off a tray, Tara had been had eaten turkey 0:15:55.640 --> 0:16:00.440 that she didn't or she that she didn't want. Is 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:02.240 a good way of thinking, Like that's evidence, you know 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:05.640 it is. And then Natalie had also been served. But man, 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:09.280 she fought for that. And this is when it clicked 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.000 to me, Oh, if you're a trader, the best move 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:15.400 to do is just insist on. You got to get 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:18.120 that anidote, and none of them did, none of them did. 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.040 I was like, guys, you got it, you know, but 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:22.440 it did backfire and Natalie that she went for. But like, 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:25.480 if I saw Natalie going that strong, then I would 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:27.600 probably make a case for myself and then back down 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:29.600 and let her go. You know. But like, if you're 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:31.440 a trader. It's a good it's a good sign that 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:33.280 you're a trader if you want the antidote. 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:36.560 Yeah, of course, but it's also it just this this 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:39.280 night more than you know any so far, and especially 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:41.560 around the table so far shows that one of the 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:46.080 main characters in this show is paranoia, and it's just 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.400 so great where you're just so it's like what wasting 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:50.520 but you you held your fork in your left hand, 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:52.280 and before you held your for you'd. 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:54.440 Just be thinking of everything. It would be so like 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:57.280 every minutia, it would be crazy, so bad because I 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:00.520 just tap out. It's not worth it. Like like later 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:02.960 in this episode when they're watching Rob's doing his whole 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:06.359 like lying thing, I'm like, I would never be able 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:08.360 to do this, Like I just think he also did 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:11.159 it right. He is a human detective, this guy. But 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:13.199 that was actually the what I thought too. But I 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:14.800 thought it was it was so bad that it was 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.919 like she couldn't have been that obvious, and it was 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:21.520 it was that we'll get there, Yeah, we'll get that. 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:22.080 All right. 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:25.240 So yeah, Natalie makes a big scene just kind of 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:28.720 grabs the antidote and downs it under the time pressure 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:33.160 and then yeah, Jam Jam is murdered and the guards 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:38.480 drag him away and he immediately is like like dragging 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:42.560 him to the gallows. Just totally sealed her fate. 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:45.440 It's the best, though, to be able to see the 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:51.000 faithful being pulled out, like getting to interact where they 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:52.720 can point to someone like you get it. 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:54.880 You know, such a big move. 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:58.199 So my guess, and I could totally be wrong, but 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:00.600 my guess is that was thing. 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:04.920 That Alan was talking about. Alan was talking about being 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:07.639 dragged out, being able to talk and yelling this is 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:09.280 who did it? This is who did it? Is probably 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:11.720 the one he was talking about. Yeah, yeah, it had 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:14.720 to be right. Yeah, Well, Kristen's argument was about this 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:18.000 card flipping thing, which made a lot of sense. So 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:23.679 she got to drink the antidote and then breakfast next morning. 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:26.719 Wait wait, first of aught to talking about Tara Lipinsk 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:30.440 who was can pin it was absolutely convinced that she 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.440 was going to die. Yes, so she was like and again, 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:38.320 so far every instinct this this woman has had is wrong, 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:40.400 every single one. 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:42.399 Well. I also thought that Jam Jam would have made 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:43.959 more of a scene, like because he said the thing 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:46.359 about Lisa. But he's one he's thought that he's going 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:49.080 to get murdered. Every remember, he cried, He's like really 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:51.440 been worried about it all the time. So I thought 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:53.400 he was just gonna give me the editor please, They're 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:55.600 definitely gonna take me out. But he didn't. He just 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:56.040 cut good. 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:58.840