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Speaker 1: Welcome to Pod Meats Twirl, the podcast from two guys

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Speaker 1: who had never seen an episode of Dancing with the

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Speaker 1: Stars but took it on and walked away experts. So

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Speaker 1: now we turn to Traders, another show I've never seen,

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Speaker 1: while Will is convinced he could win it. We are Wilfred,

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Speaker 1: Allen Ryder Strong. Two best friends, one a TV expert,

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Speaker 1: one a TV skeptic, both dance scholars, join us as

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Speaker 1: we step into a castle full of lies, alliances, and

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Speaker 1: over the top wardrobe choices. This is Pod meets Twirled

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Speaker 1: Trading Places.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't know why I'm still in the cloak. I gotta

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Speaker 1: be totally honest with you. Yeah, it's like you either

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Speaker 1: have to keep it on the entire episode.

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Speaker 3: Can I tell you what I wanted to wear today?

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Speaker 3: And I thought I was gonna be able to pull

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Speaker 3: it off, and it turns out I got rid of them.

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Speaker 3: I was just gonna do my overalls with nothing underneath.

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Speaker 1: Ah. Yeah, and I can't find a cord. I must

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Speaker 1: have just gave it overall I used to do. They're

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Speaker 1: they're they're the best. I don't know where they are now,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if you've experienced this. I've sent

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Speaker 1: you a couple of things because my Instagram feed is

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Speaker 1: JUSTU and uh, there's a lot of Trader content out there.

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Speaker 3: This is like, apparently I feel like I'm getting more

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Speaker 3: Traders content than I was getting Dancing with the Stars content.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, I think I'm Yeah. My favorite was

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Speaker 1: that skit that I sent you, which was a husband

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Speaker 1: and wife couple doing what breakfast is, Like, God, I

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Speaker 1: didn't see them. You see it. It's like what if

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Speaker 1: their husband comes home from work, like the way that

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Speaker 1: they show up at breakfast for you know, after somebody's

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Speaker 1: been murdered, and so they do this whole like like

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Speaker 1: she's eating and then he walks in and then they

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Speaker 1: just keep zooming in and they keep suoming in in

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Speaker 1: the tail of their dog wagon, a huge deal of it,

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Speaker 1: and then right at the end he goes, is that

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Speaker 1: the last of the smoke salmon? Yeah? And I was like, well,

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Speaker 1: we should have done this skit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to start doing Traders gets. We should,

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Speaker 3: we really do.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, but I've been getting all the Ron Funches

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Speaker 1: stuff because apparently he's now diagnosed as on the spectrum, right,

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Speaker 1: which is I get super interesting and he's kind of saying, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you called it, Like I guess the audience is the

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Speaker 1: one that like pointed it out to him and super interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then obviously the Michael Rappaport apology tour is everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Oh Isy, I haven't getting that. I've just been getting

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Speaker 1: more bron and then like I said, skits about it

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Speaker 1: and like honestly, like I just try and like I

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Speaker 1: don't want to linger too long on this stuff because

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Speaker 1: I want my fee to diversify.

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Speaker 3: Well good, well you're gonna have a bunch of different

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Speaker 3: points of views about traders.

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Speaker 1: So that is that is diverse fight. It's brilliant. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of different things. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to like I don't know why, but

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Speaker 1: I have this stupid idea that I kind of want

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Speaker 1: to stick to the show more than like the exterior

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Speaker 1: content because you know, I felt the super Dancing with

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Speaker 1: the Stars Like, yeah, I don't want to get But

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Speaker 1: so so Michael rapper word is apologizing finally, Like yeah,

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Speaker 1: he apparently went out and said that he and Culton

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Speaker 1: they are cool, and then he's you know, was taken

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Speaker 1: out of context or he didn't. Yeah, he's he's kind

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Speaker 1: of apologizing everywhere. Now, okay, yeah, okay, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I guess we caught some heat a little bit

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Speaker 3: of hate too, because we called out a bunch of

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Speaker 3: Clton stuff.

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Speaker 1: And I guess Colton has a pretty sketchy pass too,

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Speaker 1: which I have no idea about.

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Speaker 3: I didn't neither. I didn't know about my I didn't

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Speaker 3: know about either of them. Frankly, I'm just so not

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Speaker 3: in the know of any of this stuff that I

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Speaker 3: maybe that I should be doing my due diligence. But

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Speaker 3: at the same time, I'm not going to deep dive

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Speaker 3: every single person we talk about it on a reality show.

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Speaker 1: I'm just not. So it's you know, I had no

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Speaker 1: more I know about people, especially with danswer with the stars,

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Speaker 1: this is certainly the case. The more I know it

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Speaker 1: kind of took away from me being able to root

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Speaker 1: like I didn't want. I wanted to judge them based

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Speaker 1: screen in this context. So and like you know, with Traders,

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Speaker 1: it's really a show about you know, showing your person

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Speaker 1: it on its own terms. Yeah, maybe that's not fair.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know either.

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Speaker 3: I also know that I've read enough stuff about myself

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Speaker 3: on the Internet that isn't true, and I would say

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Speaker 3: eighty five percent of it isn't true to where I

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Speaker 3: just don't believe anything I read. So it's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: this happened, and this happened. It's like, okay, I I

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Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know, and I don't believe.

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Speaker 1: My bottom line right now is that I really wish

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Speaker 1: Traders was not celebrities. You know, Well that'll be next season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I'm totally like I think, I just like I've

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Speaker 1: decided that that's the way the show because the whole

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Speaker 1: point of the show is about judging character, and so

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Speaker 1: when they come in with like these larger than life personality,

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Speaker 1: these crafted television personalities, I just lose interest, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I realized that people do that now anyway, Like

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Speaker 1: on reality shows, they come on with a plan and

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Speaker 1: a sort of character. But at least that's the game,

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Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? It's like that's what

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Speaker 1: they're coming here to do. That they're not bringing the

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Speaker 3: This is the world, this is the entertainment world without talent.

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Speaker 3: So it's just I am my own brand, this is

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Speaker 1: Well, it's arguable if there's a talent, right, I mean no,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's arguable at all. You don't think

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Speaker 1: being good at traders is a talent. I think being

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Speaker 1: good at a game is a talent. I don't think

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Speaker 1: being on the Real Housewives of anything takes any talent whatsoever. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know about Yeah, it's a reality.

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Speaker 3: It's there takes no talent to be on the real world.

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Speaker 3: It takes no talent to be on any of these

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Speaker 3: housewives shows. That's not a talent. Getting drunk and being

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Speaker 3: take any talent.

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Speaker 1: What about just like charisma, you know, which that's different

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Speaker 3: There's some people that are better generally more charismatic than

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Speaker 3: other people's that's not an innate talent. I mean there

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Speaker 3: are people it's like singing, dancing, acting, These are talents.

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Speaker 3: These are things you can cultivate, you can work at. Hey,

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Speaker 3: I'm a character is not a talent?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I honestly, I mean I like my impulses to

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Speaker 1: agree with you, but I honestly want to leave space

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Speaker 1: for the idea. I want to think about this more.

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Speaker 1: I like the Christian like, because is charisma worth rewarding?

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Speaker 1: I mean because in some ways that's a different conversation.

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Speaker 1: Is rewarding? Sure? Yeah, but I mean, like, can you

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Speaker 1: take credit for charisma? Maybe that's another way to put it. Like,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're a charismatic person, Like, isn't that

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Speaker 1: in part because you have good social skills and you've

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Speaker 3: Oh see, I don't. I think of that as a skill.

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Speaker 3: See that's the thing. A talent and scale are two

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Speaker 3: different things. Yeah, I think you're born with talent. Like

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Speaker 3: rest of your life. You can't sing. You just were

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Speaker 3: not born with the ability to do that. Now, if

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Speaker 3: and get better. But if you can't sing, you can't sing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm as black and white as you,

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Speaker 1: I absolutely am.

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Speaker 3: I'm very hard knows when it comes to talent, because

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Speaker 1: So no, what about acting? Acting is a talent? So

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Speaker 1: you were born with your talent you want a hundred percent,

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Speaker 1: worked hard at it or guide did both? But I

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Speaker 3: Have you met how many child actors? Do you know

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Speaker 3: that we're charismatic but couldn't act myself?

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Speaker 1: No? See, I disagree.

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Speaker 3: You didn't like your acting, but you could act, and

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Speaker 3: the more classes you took you got better at your

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Speaker 1: Those are two very different things.

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Speaker 3: Being charismatic and being the kid who can walk into

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Speaker 3: knowing how to break down a scene. That's a talent

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Speaker 3: that's innate, and that's something I think you're born with.

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Speaker 3: It's just like singing. If you have the talent, you

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Speaker 1: But you're the way you're talking about this, I think

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Speaker 1: I think you're born with charisma or like a likability factor,

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Speaker 1: actual like acting skill. No see, and I disagree one

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Speaker 3: That's why there's people that are two and three and

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Speaker 3: That's not something they learned at three years old, Tiger Woods.

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Speaker 3: There's an innate talent that is inbred in you that

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Speaker 3: then can be cultivated.

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Speaker 1: But and then and then you can get it.

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Speaker 3: We can get into conversations of healthy cultivation versus unhealthy cultivation,

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Speaker 3: but if you can't sing, your mom and dad can

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Speaker 3: beat you up forever. You ain't never going to learn

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Speaker 3: how to sing.

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Speaker 1: I definitely unders I definitely agree in terms of pitch,

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Speaker 1: like the ability to hear like your ear, you know,

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Speaker 1: or carry a tune. There's plenty of people who just

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Speaker 1: can't sing. I don't know, man, I am that's fine.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to think about it some more because I'm

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Speaker 1: pleased to do. I'm not completely against you. I just

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Speaker 1: I gotta like absorb and think about these None of

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Speaker 1: this has anything to do with Traders exactly. Episode seven,

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Speaker 1: the Black Banquet. Okay, so back to our meta you

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Speaker 1: know what meta information conversation. You sort of insinuated before

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Speaker 1: we watched this episode that there was going to be

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Speaker 1: some big bombshell they were supposed to be. Was talking

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Speaker 1: about this for months, but there wasn't nothing. Nothing really

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Speaker 1: that Okay, no, it was. It was a fun episode.

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Speaker 1: It was a great episode. If anything, the bomb show

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Speaker 1: the game. But they're only learning how to play the

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Speaker 1: game because they're listening to the Trader. I know. So,

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Speaker 3: Personally think he's the best player I've ever seen. I

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Speaker 1: Every time I think, like last time, I thought he

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and I don't know if he's brilliant, which

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Speaker 3: And he is crushing it.

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Speaker 1: He is crushing it. So Okay. So they left us

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Speaker 1: She looked like the State Puff marshmallow man. It was like,

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Speaker 1: Alright, So she zeros in on Yam Yam, Kristen or

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Speaker 1: Natalie and uh we you know, they insinuate that she

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Speaker 3: I figured she was actually going to go for, uh,

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Speaker 3: I would think to myself. If I got voted last week,

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Speaker 3: time is numbered. So take out the person you want

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Speaker 3: would have been Colton. She's like, YO would have come

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Speaker 3: back on me. It doesn't matter. Your time is numbered.

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Speaker 3: When that many people are already thinking about you, You're

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Speaker 3: not going to change seven people's minds. So just take

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Speaker 3: and and go out with a revenge killing because you're

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Speaker 1: That's an interesting move. So I thought she should have

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Speaker 1: gone for Kristen, because Kristin, I think, is a good player,

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Speaker 1: whereas like Kristin is like a Kristin and Natalie are

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Speaker 3: It's tough because it's, yeah, I don't know what you're

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Speaker 3: And they also made it look like any time anybody

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Speaker 3: So it's yeah, they I think the idea of don't

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that didn't that didn't last, all right, So

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Speaker 1: up looking like Liberaci's chandelier, Oh my god, ripping and

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Speaker 1: jewels and jeweled kilts on the side. It was just, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: him and been like, you know what, buddy, little much,

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Speaker 3: My friend, pull it back a little bit, my friend. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but he's fabulous, and I just want to have a

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Speaker 1: He goes. He goes on to tell the story of James,

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Speaker 1: the second King James, and that they're gonna murder somebody

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Speaker 1: Now you're talking my world. Yeah, I was so into this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was great. I was like, this is a great

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Speaker 3: I'm just I'm sorry, but I'm just thinking about we've

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Speaker 3: got to do get all of our nineties friends together

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Speaker 3: and do a nineties home game one night Traders. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: like we'll get everybody step by step, full house. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: just do rounds of murder family matters. We'll just get

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Speaker 1: Other off one by one.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that'll be great.

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Speaker 1: So pretty like immediately this devolves into chaos. Jam Jaham

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Speaker 1: is touched her clasp, which didn't remember about a perfect

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Speaker 1: nobody even mentioned it again, I know, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: really they zeroed in on, you know, jam To have

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Speaker 1: And I thought, uh, you know, Kristen had been eaten

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Speaker 1: it is. And then Natalie had also been served. But man,

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Speaker 1: to me, Oh, if you're a trader, the best move

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Speaker 1: I was like, guys, you got it, you know, but

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Speaker 1: it did backfire and Natalie that she went for. But like,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, but it's also it just this this

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Speaker 3: so great where you're just so it's like what wasting

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Speaker 1: Just be thinking of everything. It would be so like

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Speaker 1: in this episode when they're watching Rob's doing his whole

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Speaker 1: it right. He is a human detective, this guy. But

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Speaker 1: it was that we'll get there, Yeah, we'll get that.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, Natalie makes a big scene just kind of

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Speaker 1: and then yeah, Jam Jam is murdered and the guards

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Speaker 3: It's the best, though, to be able to see the

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Speaker 1: You know, such a big move.

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Speaker 3: So my guess, and I could totally be wrong, but

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Speaker 1: That Alan was talking about. Alan was talking about being

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Speaker 1: the one he was talking about. Yeah, yeah, it had

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Speaker 3: Wait wait, first of aught to talking about Tara Lipinsk

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Speaker 3: so far every instinct this this woman has had is wrong,

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Speaker 1: Well. I also thought that Jam Jam would have made

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Speaker 3: And it happens later too, because I watched it with

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Speaker 1: Takes takes it so seriously. She's so scared about it.

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Speaker 3: That's like you realize you're just off the show, right,

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Speaker 3: you don't get like brought into a back room and stabbed.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it was it's like she's not actually gonna die.

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Speaker 1: She gets it all right. So Breakfast the next morning

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Speaker 1: And this is when you know, the first sort of

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: I still think when you have and I would love

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Speaker 1: Like, look, six people voted for her. She's done. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Knows that Candace and Lisa are just too tight. No,

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Speaker 1: said my name.

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00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 3: Six people voted for her. She's a sea anchor right now,

433
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,160
Speaker 3: we've got to cut her loose. So the whole ship

434
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:27,879
Speaker 3: is going down. And I think she would have I

435
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 3: think she would have understood that.

436
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 1: What's interesting, Yeah, I mean she's playing.

437
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:36,120
Speaker 3: Horribly, horribly horribly, and people are starting to call her out.

438
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, all right, So the others, the other group,

439
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 1: the rest of the team starts showing up in groups

440
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 1: for breakfast. Not much to talk about because they all

441
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 1: were there. They all just kind of rehash it. There's

442
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 1: this whole Lisa slightly defending herself but not doing a

443
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:59,160
Speaker 1: very good job. Yes, it's just bad, It's really bad. Yeah,

444
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 1: and Houlton. Colton decides that he's going to like take

445
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 1: a back seat, which I think was smart, ended up

446
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 1: kind of not being the case because he just pounced

447
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 1: at round table, but he did keep for the rest

448
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,880
Speaker 1: of most of the day. He kept like, he didn't

449
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,199
Speaker 1: point fingers, he stopped playing as aggressively yeah as he

450
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 1: has been, which I thought was really.

451
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 3: Some people and I don't want to point any fingers

452
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 3: pointing right it myself. Some people can't not be the

453
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 3: center of attention when they're around a group of people,

454
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 3: and Colton's one of those people.

455
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 1: I'm one of those people. Like I just feel like, oh, there's.

456
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,120
Speaker 3: A captive audience. Time to take the stage, and some

457
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 3: people just can't. They wake up in the morning going

458
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 3: just keep your mouth shut today, Just keep your mouth

459
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 3: shut today.

460
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 1: And it doesn't last. Yeah. Candice starts making moves towards Natalie,

461
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 1: which just seems like the natural thing for her to do,

462
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 1: and then I cannot believe the amount of misspeaking in

463
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 1: this show. Natalie says, we murdered, and I'm like, that's

464
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 1: like a third time this happened. This when I was

465
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 1: a trader in the tower, had I stabbed? And then

466
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: they're not traders. It's this one. She corrects herself pretty

467
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: much immediately. She's like, are you vanished? And I was like, oh,

468
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 1: I could now I can see that confusion, but like, guys,

469
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 1: keep it together.

470
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 3: Come on, And if Lisa grabbed it right away, she's like, oh,

471
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 3: thank god, then somebody I can grab onto this.

472
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I think my support for Natalie has been

473
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: it's waning. Yeah. Really, she's not playing very well, you know,

474
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: like she's just not thinking things all the way through.

475
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, where as remember if you go back

476
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,719
Speaker 1: to the black banquet, Kristin the whole time was like

477
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 1: let him fight it out, like I don't want that's

478
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna win like this, I don't need the potion.

479
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm good, and then they they grabbed it and handed

480
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 1: it to her like no, you're taking this. So, I mean,

481
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 1: if she was a trader, which we know she's not,

482
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: she's playing it brilliantly. If she's a faithful, she's kind

483
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 1: of voting pretty well and she's going under the radar.

484
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 3: There's a chance that Kristen's got it, got an opportunity

485
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 3: to be there at the end.

486
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

487
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

488
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: In another conversation, Rob completely just throws Lisa under the

489
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: bus in a great way too. He does everything so logically,

490
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: and he's you know, he's basically saying like Jam Jam

491
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,959
Speaker 1: had no reason to lie, which is exactly right, like

492
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, and at the end, yeah, what he says.

493
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 3: It's the end at the roundtable where he's like, look,

494
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 3: I'm a faithful. I know I'm a faithful. I'm the

495
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 3: only one I know for a fact is a faithful.

496
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 3: The only other person I one hundred percent know is

497
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 3: Jam Jam. And it's like brilliant. He's like, you know,

498
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 3: because I got to talk to somebody who's obviously a

499
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 3: faithful as they're being led to the gallows.

500
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 1: And I should listen to that part, and that's the

501
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: person I should listen to. And it's a good argument.

502
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: Oh it's so great, it's so great. Yeah. I mean

503
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 1: the thing for for me at Lisa's entire defense this

504
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 1: whole day is like why didn't she just say, oh, yeah,

505
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: I kissed him, but I kissed everybody like she does this,

506
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 1: like she does this half thing where she says I

507
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 1: didn't or what does she say? She says, I air

508
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 1: kissed A kiss kiss, I air kiss everybody, right, and

509
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: it's like saying that she actually kiss kissed him.

510
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so why I she might.

511
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 1: She should have just been like, I don't remember that,

512
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 1: maybe I did. I don't know.

513
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 3: I kissed some people I did. And that's when Candice

514
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 3: then should have jumped in and be like, well you

515
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 3: kiss me on it she too. Instead of her saying oh, no,

516
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 3: you air kissed me and backing up the lie, right,

517
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 3: she should have backed up jam Jam by saying no,

518
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 3: she kissed me too, so it can't be that because

519
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 3: then I'd be dead too, So that's how you protect

520
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 3: your trader.

521
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: But she didn't. She went the other way, right. It's

522
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 1: like she and if Lisa had just said I definitely

523
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 1: kissed him, but I'm you know, because she sets it

524
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: up so it's her word against jam Jam basically as

525
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: opposed to like she said, I only air kissed him,

526
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 1: and then it's like, well then you're you're either he's

527
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: completely lying and he's the one that died, so yeah,

528
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: I don't know ma'am.

529
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 3: So that's like, yeah, yeah, no, she kissed me too,

530
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 3: like yeah, and then I bet you because Direnda seems

531
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 3: like she's like everyone has to wake up in the

532
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 3: morning and remind her she's there. Yeah, I think Direnda

533
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 3: probably would have been like she kissed me exactly exactly.

534
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: Dinda and Tara are by far like the weaker players,

535
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: sort of like going with the group, y'am making any moves,

536
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: not even trying.

537
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 3: But that's Derinda is just there, like a leaf on

538
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 3: the wind, like kind of just there.

539
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: And again, you got a poker to go like, hey.

540
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 3: We're in a game, whereas Tara is trying and just

541
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 3: everything she's doing is wrong.

542
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 1: So it's like, I love it.

543
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 3: She'll stand up, she'll be like, so here's what I think,

544
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 3: And before she even says it, I'm like, it's gonna

545
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 3: be exactly the opposite of what's actually happening.

546
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, her.

547
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 3: And Johnny playing a much different game. They're they're trying

548
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 3: to pow their way into our lives and I'm not

549
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 3: sure it's working.

550
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 1: And then the mission and this one it starts off

551
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: and I was like ready to like get the convoluted speech,

552
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 1: but It actually starts off pretty simple. I was like, oh,

553
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: we get the gold running up the hill. Whoever has

554
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: the most goal? I was like great, and then it's like, nope,

555
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: dagger earns just again. You can throw every third piece

556
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: of gold at everything, the gold back into the pocket

557
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: and if you see Ale and he.

558
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 4: Gets and what is happening after to bring the gold

559
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 4: you must smelt it, bring it down and make a

560
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 4: small statue of an earn.

561
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 1: The must be given to the third trait of his cousin. Like,

562
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: what the hell is happening? I know, man, he's like

563
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: the best, But this whole notion of a dagger is

564
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: really cool.

565
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: That's I think this was last year too. I think

566
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 3: they did maybe not, I don't know. They all blamed.

567
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: I figure, I don't remember someone getting to very survivor

568
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: ish because survival you get an extra vote. That that's

569
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: like I been an old survivor rule that people people

570
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: can get that. So yeah, I thought this was really interesting.

571
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: And then when they yeah, when it started and it

572
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: was just like a race, I was like, this is

573
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: kind of an unfair you know exactly, Like Lisa points out,

574
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: She's like, we got football player players, Yeah, we got

575
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: guys in their like late twenties.

576
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 3: I'm not putting my fake gold on Derinda. I gotta

577
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 3: be honest with you. So it's you know what I mean.

578
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 3: It's like, if I got to gamble, I'm going to

579
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 3: go with the guy who catches alligators by hand.

580
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: And they didn't explain the game very well because the

581
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: idea at the end that you could put your yes,

582
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: so you like, do you think they knew that and

583
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: we just didn't know it? Or did none of them

584
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: know that? Maybe I don't know. I don't know how

585
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: it didn't seem like because I know each other and

586
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: been like, i'll give you all my gold. Let's let's

587
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: put you know, like I'll give you my gold and

588
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: you promised to you know, they could have made alliances,

589
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: but instead they just have to like get up there

590
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: with their gold and see how it goes. Yeah, it

591
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 1: was a weird, weird little but I love the dagger element.

592
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: I think that's a cool And the way he played

593
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: it too at the end is so brilliant. He's every move.

594
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 5: This guy's making is the right one, all right.

595
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 1: So Lisa gives her gold to Stephen and yeah, and

596
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: then anyway, Rob gets the most gold, which is unbelievable.

597
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: What an amazing move, like just and so likable, so likable,

598
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 1: and he's now gotten traders out. So everybody's like this

599
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: is yeah, this is the guy like he is saying

600
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: well yeah. So then they do this weird like round

601
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: table of tablets, which I again I was like, why

602
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: couldn't the person who has the dagger just say to Rob,

603
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: I have it. I'm not lying, I'm not gonna lie

604
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: to you. You can take it from me. I'll give it

605
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: to you because I want to be honest with you.

606
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: I'm a faithful and I have the dagger. Wouldn't you

607
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: have been a good move? Well that's what he did. Yeah,

608
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: I'm brilliant. Once he has it, he's like, let's be

609
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: impact and we won't tell anybody.

610
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 3: And he's like, hey, I just want you all to

611
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: know I'm a faithful I have the dagger.

612
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: But if you're a faithful, why would you ever lie

613
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: to another faithful? And you make that your game and

614
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: in this moment right like you just get the dagger.

615
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: If you have it, you say I do have the

616
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: dagger and you can have it, Rob, because that's how

617
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: how like committed I am to being convincing you that faithful.

618
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 3: And it's also everyone thinks he's a faithful too, so

619
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, I'm giving it to the most powerful one.

620
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 3: This guy's obviously commands a lot of weight. I have

621
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 3: a dagger take it.

622
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: We're good. Yeah, yeah, I'm But I don't know that's

623
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: That's the only move I've come up with in this

624
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: entire season so far I think is a good move,

625
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: and I think this is the only good move because

626
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: the whole line thing I'm just bad at. I don't

627
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: know why. That's the same time to showcase, Natalie knows.

628
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 3: Her name has been thrown out, so she wants every

629
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 3: edge that she could possibly get, so getting that second

630
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 3: vote could have kept her in the game.

631
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: This is a game that's set up for them to

632
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: lie to each other in a bigger game with the

633
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: whole point so you lose this smaller game to win

634
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: the bigger game, you know what I mean exactly what

635
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: Rob does what he wins it. But it's just it

636
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: was a weird setup to me. I was like, I

637
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: don't think they're thinking this through all the way. They're

638
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: like doing this poker standoff and it's like but that's

639
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: actually about your ability to lie. Like that's not a

640
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: good thing to showcase. It's weird. I don't know. Yeah,

641
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: it's there's so many moves within moves. If I was Natalie,

642
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: I would point to this and say, see, he called

643
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: me in a moment that I lied. I'm such a

644
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: bad liar. I am a faithful You can trust me

645
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: because you know, like she used this to your advantage,

646
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: like I'm a shitty liar, which she kind of is.

647
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: She actually would be a great way. Yeah, she's like, yeah,

648
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: it's not mine. Yep, I don't have it. I don't

649
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: know about you won't make eye contact. Stephen was the

650
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: other one. I was thinking because he did a weird

651
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: like shed shake right when he looks like, no, let

652
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: me let me show you how much I'm not. I

653
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: don't have the tag. I don't have it. I was like,

654
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: But when she went through that, I was like, would

655
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,959
Speaker 1: it be that obvious? And it turns out it is

656
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: some people. I mean, it was cool. I thought Rob

657
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: had at least us strategy. I don't know if I

658
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: believe that you can always tell if people are lying

659
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: that easily. I don't know if I can.

660
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 3: I mean He's like, I'm a human lie detector. Oh no, see,

661
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 3: I don't trust everybody. I am pretty good with knowing

662
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 3: people are lying.

663
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: Really. Yeah, yeah, there have definitely been people that I

664
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: feel like are are bad actors in life, you know, like,

665
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: but usually it's just about their ability to express themselves.

666
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: It's not about like subterfuge or no.

667
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, but you don't pick up on a lot

668
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 3: of it. I mean literally, literally, nothing I've told you

669
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 3: about myself is true in the thirty years I've known you.

670
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: Really, it's a single long cone, not a single thing. Yes, yes, so,

671
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: and you haven't picked up on a single actress. Yeah, yeah,

672
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: you've been Truman showing my entire entire friendship has been

673
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: fake and none of this is real. Oh my god,

674
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: what a movie. It's a long game, my friend. All right.

675
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: So then yeah, Rob does this great thing, tells them

676
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: all he has a dagger, and they you know, yeah,

677
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: they make this pack and then he tries to rally

678
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: against Lisa. Uh does it with man vax, He does

679
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: it with facts. It's brilliant.

680
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 3: It's he's and he's just he's going like, look, I'm

681
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 3: I'm just taking emotion out of everything.

682
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: And if I just look at this, this and this,

683
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: it just points to her. But you guys, do whatever

684
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: you want. And it's just kind of the way that

685
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: he does it is so perfect, so brilliant. Oh yeah,

686
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: so that's basically what the roundtable, you know, I mean Colton,

687
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: who's already sort of given the Lisa argument and they

688
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: knew it was coming, and he, you know, he delivers that.

689
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: Johnny immediately begins his Natalie argument. He says, because they

690
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: couldn't both be cursed, which is because they were both

691
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: served the freight, right, right, and yet she insisted on herself,

692
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: and so you know which is It's it's an argument.

693
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: It makes sense, right, like, yeah, you protested too much

694
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: to get that antidote, which would have been a good

695
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: move if you're a trader. But Colton's Lisa argument is good.

696
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: And then Rob turns.

697
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 3: Been but he also they say, do you okay, the

698
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 3: person with the dagger, raise your hand if you want

699
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 3: to cast two votes tonight, and he just keeps his

700
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 3: mouth shut.

701
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: And it's brilliant because now he's got it in his

702
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: back pocket and he's got he's got alliance with six

703
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: people who are keeping his secret with him. He's in

704
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: such a good position, he's doing so well. Yeah, and

705
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: I mean the really ridiculous thing is what Canvas does

706
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: by voting for him. Dumbest need move you can make.

707
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: What are you thinking, like when you see where this

708
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: is going, you turn on Lisa immediately, yep, because or

709
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: stick with your Natalie vote because you've been making arguments,

710
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: but you know that Natalie is not the trader, so

711
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: you're just She instead pulls this weird like protest move

712
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: that only one person is going to understand, Rob, So

713
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: all you're doing is pissing off the one person who

714
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: knows your secret. Yes, it's really literally the dumbest thing

715
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: she could have possibly done. It would have been safer

716
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: to just stick with the Natalie argument, vote for Natalie,

717
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: or turn on Lisa because that's the move. Yes, so

718
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: she's alienated everybody in like one stupid vote. It was

719
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: truly astounding how bad of a move that was.

720
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: That's why I would love to have had the scene

721
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 3: where he goes to her and it's like, I'm telling you,

722
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 3: Lisa's gone.

723
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 1: She's gone.

724
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 3: Whether you vote for or not, she's going to be gone,

725
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 3: and so vote for her. Let's get some goodwill. Let's

726
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 3: keep going, and then you and I move forward together.

727
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: It's one nice forget how were they they were? I

728
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: know they're both housewives, but were they friends? Like in

729
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: real life before this? They just haven't allegis for each

730
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: other because their housewise correct. Okay, I thought they explained

731
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: it in the beginning.

732
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 3: If we did a give, we did a game where

733
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 3: you know, it was boy meets World against full house.

734
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 3: Chances are we try to get a little bit of

735
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 3: for full house people before.

736
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 1: We vote for Oh no, I get those people out.

737
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: Danielle Fisher. We all voted for Danielle starting TV star.

738
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: I am right strong. I'm sorry.

739
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 3: If there's only one ninety star, we both be sitting

740
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 3: there going like wow, Mark Paul Gosler played a really

741
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 3: good game.

742
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: Uh, And then it's worth noting Derinda votes for Moira

743
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: for I feel.

744
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 3: Like it's the only name of the people she actually

745
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 3: knew around the table, even the people she's.

746
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: Known, like the way she says her teas voting for

747
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 1: more Tink.

748
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it was weird. There's some there's some weirdness going.

749
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: It ends with Lisa getting banished, and at this point,

750
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: if I understand correctly, they can enlist a new trader.

751
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: I think yes, I mean it's it's not up to them.

752
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 3: So sometimes like what happened the last time, was they

753
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 3: they were down a trader or maybe two at the

754
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: time because they're down to technically because of the secret trader, right,

755
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: but they don't know that that was the secret trader.

756
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: They just know that two traders are out. And so

757
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 3: the last time, I believe, then Alan coming comes up

758
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 3: to the turret and goes like, you must now take

759
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 3: the coin of misery to the vial of truth and

760
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 3: you must put it in that She No, they have

761
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 3: to pick, they have to approach a new trader, Okay,

762
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 3: Because if that's the case, I would say if they

763
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 3: got Colton right now, they would have the most amazing

764
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 3: trader team because all the heats because Colton just bagged

765
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 3: Lisa and he's finally proven that he is like a

766
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 3: great everyone everyone yeah, no, everyone thinks Colton is still

767
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 3: there's still too much heat on him. He's still gonna

768
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 3: have names at every single roundtable. I would instantly go

769
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: to Kristin or Mark Ballas and be like, I want

770
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 3: you to come be it because no one would suspect

771
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 3: him or Eric, But I don't think Eric would be

772
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 3: a good trader, where I think Kristin would be a

773
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 3: really good trader because she's just so under the radar

774
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,959
Speaker 3: and doing everything no one's really mentioned her. Colton's gonna

775
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 3: Colton can't win. He's got a day or two left.

776
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 3: He's gonna be voted out. Really, I got to see that.

777
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: I'm so bad at this. I was really thinking that

778
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: it would be a good move because Colton's had the

779
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: heat on him, He's been wrong. He's finally getting right.

780
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: I feel like now is when people that have been

781
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: flying under the radar start looking more suspicious, so that

782
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: I feel like the game's gonna start turning on your Kristen,

783
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 1: your Eric, you know. And then and Colton, having played

784
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: so hard up front, has kind of gotten away with

785
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: it because all the heats off of him. Right now,

786
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: he got somebody right. He's really happy about it. He

787
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: made the argument that started the Lisa argument, stuck with

788
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: it was right. That's when you turn around and go,

789
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: now you're one of us. Maybe, but you know, he's

790
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: starting to pull people aside again, going like, hey, you

791
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: know who it is, who I think it is? Now?

792
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: See you keep playing too hard, and it's like, dude,

793
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: stop trying to tell people who they should vote for,

794
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: because everyone's just gonna be like he's dictating the game.

795
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: He's got to go right. And that's what I think

796
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: is gonna happen. Whereas kristin under the Radar, she says, oh, chef,

797
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: she looks great in the coat. But so what now

798
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: actually happens? Because these two traders are not working together,

799
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: they kind of have to see.

800
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 3: We're gonna have to see they'll have to pick someone

801
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 3: murder that they'll have to work together on. But then

802
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 3: they'll underneath they're going to be trading the traders, the

803
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 3: old double team, the old switcheroo.

804
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: But wait, how do you pick? How do you pick

805
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: somebody in murder? If you both disagree?

806
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 3: My guess is Alan Cummings will be like, yeah, you

807
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 3: must decide how you would do you know it's you're

808
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 3: gonna have to pick.

809
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: Somebody kill this coach whoever.

810
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 3: The truth will be if you can hold down the

811
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 3: hags of truth, your vomit will show the trader.

812
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: You must eat all the smoke salmon. It's like Game

813
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 1: of Thrones where it's like you gotta eat the entire

814
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: horse's heart. And yeah, I mean this is a red

815
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: wedding homage. They were given some some serious red wedding vibes.

816
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, all right, Well are you so? I

817
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: gotta ask every week though you're are you? Are you

818
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: off of her? Now? Who who you think? It's all right?

819
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 4: So?

820
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: Who you don't think Natalie anymore? Who you think is

821
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: going to win the whole thing? Kristin? Oh no, sorry,

822
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: I mean of the faithfuls. I mean Christen's the best player.

823
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, who do you think at the end of

824
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: the day? Do you still right now? Rob is just

825
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 1: killing I agree? I agree. I mean he's turned out

826
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: to be a masterful player, and he keeps evolving, do

827
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like it's not like it's

828
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 1: not like there's only one move. He's now done multiple

829
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,479
Speaker 1: moves in different directions, and they've they've worked really well.

830
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 3: He's clearly a chess player. He's thinking three moves ahead.

831
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 3: And it is one of those things they always say.

832
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: The analogy is you can tell that the great chess players,

833
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 3: especially when they're playing somebody who's playing checkers and it

834
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,479
Speaker 3: looks like everybody else is playing checkers and he's playing chess.

835
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 3: It just he stands out. He's great at this. Yeah,

836
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 3: it's crazy, absolutely crazy. And before we go any farther,

837
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 3: of course, you know that I'm a scholar of dance.

838
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: We've talked about this.

839
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 3: Of course, I'm also a scholar of some of the

840
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 3: most famous traders in history. And this segment has beautifully

841
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 3: been called a will a history the Traders and stuff

842
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 3: and history and Traders. I was trying it as a rap.

843
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: It might not a hip hop opening, you know, it's

844
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: like very like Schoolhouse Rocky. I was kind of going

845
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: trying to like nineties vibe baby seas are cool. Yeah, right,

846
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: so yeah, a comma breaks up the sentence for you

847
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: like that overalls on a backwards hate. It's like you're oh,

848
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: it's like your rap, you did this, Yes, exactly, this

849
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: is kid Fresh, I'm kid and play.

850
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 3: Today's famous trader from history is somebody named King. I'm

851
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 3: staying this wrong, King who from ten ninety to eleven

852
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 3: fifty five.

853
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: Now I can be saying it wrong if it's just

854
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: from your at the top of your head.

855
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 3: It's because in my head I transcribe it all in visual,

856
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 3: so I can see him perfectly. But my pronunciation isn't

857
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 3: always the best, but I paint with words, right, Kin

858
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 3: Who he was a minute stir with the Song dynasty

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Speaker 3: in twelfth century China.

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Speaker 1: And at the time, I don't know if you're aware

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Speaker 1: of this, writer, but the Jr.

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Speaker 3: Chin tribes occupying the northern territories of China, they captured

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Speaker 3: the Song Emperor. And when the Song general you Fe

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Speaker 3: tried to reconquer the territory and reinstall the emperor to

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Speaker 3: the throne, can Who he stopped him and had him executed.

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Speaker 3: And for this can Who he is still regarded as

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Speaker 3: a trader in China, to the point where in the

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Speaker 3: region where Fay is buried there are statues of Kin

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Speaker 3: and his wife bound and on their knees, where people

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Speaker 3: can express their displeasure at his treasonous ways.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm not sure if you're aware of that,

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Speaker 1: but no, yes, Mount Rushmore of Shame. Yeah, exactly, there

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Speaker 1: you go. Your statue is you bound and tied up?

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Speaker 3: Literally, let's just say, in my head on a computer machine,

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at the statue and it's not a good.

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Speaker 6: Statue in your memory, right in my memory, let's just

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Speaker 6: say it is a man and woman on their knees

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Speaker 6: bound with their heads down, surrounded by spikes, and people

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Speaker 6: apparently walk by and spit on it and have their

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Speaker 6: pleasure displeasure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not a good statue to have.

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Speaker 3: I'll take you know, plays of squirrels or a phenie

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Speaker 3: call or something like that for my statue from a.

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Speaker 1: Thousand years from now. All right, Well that's it for

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Speaker 1: this episode of Pod meets Twirld. Alliances were tested, trust misplaced,

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Speaker 1: and once again we've been left with a cliffhanger. Join

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Speaker 1: us next time as we continue our journey through season

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Speaker 1: four of Traders, a show in which, as Shakespeare said

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Speaker 1: in his Scottish play, fair is foul and foul is

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Speaker 1: fair