Speaker 1: What's that at the bed?
Speaker 2: It's spooky and uky, I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's
Speaker 2: coming this way.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, held.
Speaker 2: By Ross Dress flens E. Please, hey boo, it's me
Speaker 2: the Ghost of Christmas Future, Ross Dress Falas. It's this
Speaker 2: is our last show before Christmas. So I hope you're
Speaker 2: having a wonderful Honda Day season. Happy Hondadays to you
Speaker 2: and yours. And I want to talk before we get
Speaker 2: into this wonderful, hilarious episode with Zanab Johnson. I want
Speaker 2: to talk about the tradition of ghost stories during Christmas time.
Speaker 2: They might be like, what the dickens are you talking about? Ross?
Speaker 2: Ghost stories there for Halloween. See that's what a lot
Speaker 2: of people think. But the truth is it's actually an
Speaker 2: old tradition. I mean we're talking Victorian England and even
Speaker 2: further back, and I think we should bring it back,
Speaker 2: you know, I think Christmas needs to be spooky again.
Speaker 2: May Christmas spooky again? That's what I say. Now it goes,
Speaker 2: it goes way back to you know the way that
Speaker 2: Christmas is nowadays. And yes I did, I did do
Speaker 2: a little bit of googling about this. You know, the
Speaker 2: way it isn't in the US and in Europe. It
Speaker 2: it came from the pagan pagan pagan that Midwest accent
Speaker 2: coming out pagan pagan pagan Winter Solstice celebration and the
Speaker 2: festival known as you Now. Of course, Charles Dickens's Christmas
Speaker 2: Carol was you know, featured the ghost that made it
Speaker 2: a real big thing in that era, and then that
Speaker 2: inspired a lot of other writers like E. F. Benson,
Speaker 2: Eljeron Blackwood and J. H. Riddle. Then later in the
Speaker 2: nineteen hundreds with AM Burridge and m. R. James, lots
Speaker 2: of people with two first initials as their first name.
Speaker 2: They love to write ghost stories about Christmas. And then
Speaker 2: you know, a little bit later on there was like
Speaker 2: if you think about the song the most wonderful time
Speaker 2: of the year, he even says in it, they'll be
Speaker 2: scary ghost stories and something and something, So he references
Speaker 2: the ghost stories a Christmas time. So I thought it
Speaker 2: would be fun if I read you just a couple
Speaker 2: of quick little ghost stories before we get into this episode.
Speaker 2: These came from Grace, and Grace, girl, you got ghosts.
Speaker 2: She's had. She's one of those people that has just
Speaker 2: had many ghost experiences and she sent me a couple
Speaker 2: short little ones, and I thought they'd be cute to
Speaker 2: share with you. The first one she says is I
Speaker 2: worked for a small clothing company for a while. I
Speaker 2: remember the staff telling me how the place was haunted.
Speaker 2: Purses would be flung off the walls, they would lock
Speaker 2: up the store, and displays would be changed the next morning,
Speaker 2: typical ghosts shenanigans. One day, we were talking about our
Speaker 2: experiences and as soon as we finished telling the story,
Speaker 2: we look up and a shirt flies off the wall
Speaker 2: display on the hangar. It was so creepy. The ghost
Speaker 2: totally heard us gossiping about them. So that's one story.
Speaker 2: Here's another one. My mom and I were driving on
Speaker 2: a road that we had been on a thousand times.
Speaker 2: There's a truck in front of us that looks like
Speaker 2: it has construction equipment in it. We were at a stoplight.
Speaker 2: Suddenly a figure of a little girl peeks up from
Speaker 2: the backseat of the truck. I'm looking at her. She
Speaker 2: is white and slightly transparent, and as soon as the
Speaker 2: light turns green, she dissolves, similar to a fog clearing.
Speaker 2: I was so confused and what I had witnessed, And
Speaker 2: I say, Mom, did you see that, and she goes, yes,
Speaker 2: the little girl and she describes seeing the same vanishing figure.
Speaker 2: It was crazy. So thank you Grace for sending that in.
Speaker 2: And since this is the last episode before Christmas, I
Speaker 2: would just like to tell you about our live show,
Speaker 2: a perfect holiday gift for anyone that's into spooky silly things.
Speaker 2: My guest for the live show will be former podcast
Speaker 2: guests and absolute favorite Alessandra Torresani, because that girl's got
Speaker 2: more ghost stories and the two of us are going
Speaker 2: to be gabbing on stage. And that will be at
Speaker 2: the Cavern Club Theater at Casito del Campo in Silver
Speaker 2: lef Los Angeles, California, and it's on the twenty first
Speaker 2: of January. You can get your tickets on the Cavern
Speaker 2: Club's website, which is Cavern Clubtheater dot com, or you
Speaker 2: can just go to the link in my Instagram at
Speaker 2: ros dress Flass and I hope to see you there.
Speaker 2: All right on with the show, ladies and gentlemen, I'm
Speaker 2: joined by truly one of my favorite comedians and somebody
Speaker 2: that has some of the best energy I've ever encountered,
Speaker 2: Zey nab Johnson. Hey, Rise, how are you so good?
Speaker 4: See.
Speaker 2: I feel it's so interesting and I'm not like I'm
Speaker 2: not like trying to like hit on you or like,
Speaker 2: you know, like just kiss your ass or anything. But
Speaker 2: I feel like as long as I've known you, and
Speaker 2: you know, usually when I run into you, it's like
Speaker 2: at a comedy club, I always feel like you have
Speaker 2: the strongest positive energy, Like I really feel this, like
Speaker 2: you are light.
Speaker 4: I think it's because comedy clubs make me happy.
Speaker 2: Really, but I feel there's so much darkness.
Speaker 1: I think for me, it's kind of like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: for a couple of minutes, I'm gonna be able to
Speaker 1: escape like real life.
Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong. Out in the real world.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a bunch of people who have encountered
Speaker 1: me and have been like, oh, really, you think she's sweet. No,
Speaker 1: she was a bitch to me, can I cur of
Speaker 1: course so, And not not that I'm an intentional bit
Speaker 1: like I'm not like a bitchy asshole, but I mean
Speaker 1: sometimes I do have to assert myself and yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not it's not so much fun the comedy club. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna go and try and be funny, and you
Speaker 1: always have like great energy. I always I feel like
Speaker 1: I always walking the show like midway when you're either
Speaker 1: doing a song or saying something funny.
Speaker 4: So it's like, why wouldn't I have great energy after.
Speaker 2: Oh, interesting experience. I don't experience that from everyone in
Speaker 2: the audience are watching or anything. Yeah, But I think
Speaker 2: because when I started doing this podcast, I didn't know
Speaker 2: much about ghosts. I just love to talk about them.
Speaker 2: But I think a lot these days about the energy
Speaker 2: that people let out, you know, that that are emanating
Speaker 2: from them. And I just feel like it's really strong
Speaker 2: with whenever I see you that it's like you're just
Speaker 2: positive energy that makes.
Speaker 4: Me feel really good.
Speaker 1: My friend says that my friend claims, one of my
Speaker 1: closest friends, claims that she has like these visions and
Speaker 1: these sort of like these dreams and all of that.
Speaker 1: And she told me from the moment she met me,
Speaker 1: whenever I walk in the room, she always sees an
Speaker 1: actual like the best way she can describe it as
Speaker 1: like a halo that's floats around my.
Speaker 2: I just feel an aura, like a real positive aura.
Speaker 4: That is so nice.
Speaker 1: Every time I feel like cursing somebody out, I'm going
Speaker 1: to keep that in mind.
Speaker 2: Think of me, think of me and this gown that
Speaker 2: I'm wearing. How would you describe it?
Speaker 1: By the way, Okay, so one uh huh Roz has
Speaker 1: everything covered and nothing covered all at the same time.
Speaker 4: So the gown is fantastic. The door is about twelve
Speaker 4: feet away in the gown, the train is still out
Speaker 4: the door.
Speaker 1: However, the split comes right above, right right above the thigh,
Speaker 1: like right where you could just see a peak, and
Speaker 1: you're wondering, like I am.
Speaker 4: I gonna see panties, panties.
Speaker 1: The shoulders are out, there's beads, there's crystals, and it's
Speaker 1: this wonderful blue color. But you know what, Usually blue
Speaker 1: would make me think like presidential first lady, but no,
Speaker 1: this blue is like very regal and sexy.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 4: I'll do whatever, but you better fucking respect me.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Honestly, I wasn't sure I want to see
Speaker 2: because you're always turning a look in one way or another,
Speaker 2: and I really that's high praise. Thank you.
Speaker 4: Yeah you did it.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Okay. I ran into you a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks ago, and every time ever since I started doing
Speaker 2: this podcast, anytime I run into someone that I like,
Speaker 2: I'm like, please tell me you have a ghost story
Speaker 2: because I really want you to be on my podcast.
Speaker 2: And you were like, this is exactly the conversation. You
Speaker 2: go no, and I was like, I had a feeling.
Speaker 2: I was like, there's gotta be something in there. You've
Speaker 2: seen it, You've seen a ghost. I'm a feeling. I'm
Speaker 2: feeling it. And you were like, well, what about a spirit?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, what do you mean? And you were like,
Speaker 2: you told me about this thing that you're about to
Speaker 2: tell me. And I was like, zay Nap, that's a ghost.
Speaker 2: That is a straight up spooky ghost.
Speaker 4: So I guess I don't know the definition of a ghost.
Speaker 2: I don't either, but whatever that is, we talk about
Speaker 2: it on the show.
Speaker 4: So I lived in North Hollywood, like a couple of years.
Speaker 2: Ago, did too.
Speaker 1: Me did too, And it was one of my favorite
Speaker 1: not my favorite air is, but one of my favorite apartments.
Speaker 1: But at some point when I used to sleep really
Speaker 1: peacefully in that apartment, and then one day I started
Speaker 1: getting these My phone started ringing same time every single night,
Speaker 1: maybe like around a little bit after two thirty in
Speaker 1: the morning.
Speaker 2: You know, that's the witching hour, that's when the shit
Speaker 2: goes down.
Speaker 4: I had no idea. Yeah, I had no idea.
Speaker 1: I mean I had seen six cents like years ago,
Speaker 1: and I was just checking, like.
Speaker 4: Is the room getting cold?
Speaker 2: Like yo?
Speaker 1: But I mean I didn't know I had just finished
Speaker 1: dating a guy, so I thought maybe he was print
Speaker 1: calling me because there would be no number attached. It
Speaker 1: would just be like blocked caller, blocked caller every night,
Speaker 1: to the point that I turned my phone on silent,
Speaker 1: I put my phone on vibrate.
Speaker 4: You wouldn't pick it up, No, No, I wouldn't pick
Speaker 4: it up.
Speaker 2: I wonder what it would be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like at first, okay, so at first I picked
Speaker 1: I may have picked it up like two or three times,
Speaker 1: but not at that hour.
Speaker 2: Okay, getting other calls.
Speaker 1: I was getting blocked calls at during like during the day,
Speaker 1: and I would pick it up, and like, so I
Speaker 1: just thought that it was this guy who I had
Speaker 1: previously seen, and I just thought maybe he was like stalking, you.
Speaker 2: Know, just like upset had you blocked him. No, but
Speaker 2: maybe it was another number or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just like a blocked number, like it
Speaker 1: came up as a private, yeah, unknown whatever caller. And
Speaker 1: then it didn't even hit me when it when the
Speaker 1: calls first started coming through at like two thirty in
Speaker 1: the morning. It didn't hit me that it was the
Speaker 1: same time until like multiple nights this thing. And then
Speaker 1: when I put my phone on vibrate and I was
Speaker 1: woken up out of my sleep with the phone on vibrate.
Speaker 1: But then what got so crazy is I put the
Speaker 1: phone on silent, but I still woke up every night
Speaker 1: at that time to those calls.
Speaker 2: Now, wait, let me ask you something before we get
Speaker 2: into it too much. Are you somebody that growing up
Speaker 2: or you know, were you? Did you believe in ghosts?
Speaker 2: Did you think about ghosts? Was that like an option
Speaker 2: for you?
Speaker 1: Ever I was growing up, I was definitely afraid of
Speaker 1: ghost I was afraid of the dark. I still to
Speaker 1: this day am afraid of the dark. Same I'm not
Speaker 1: as bad, Like I could be in a room with
Speaker 1: a tiny bit of light and I.
Speaker 4: Feel okay, but pitch black. I'll never be comfortable in
Speaker 4: that space.
Speaker 1: But when I was a kid, I was afraid of
Speaker 1: like witches more so than anything.
Speaker 2: But like real witches or like from fictional.
Speaker 4: Stories like which is from like the Wizard of oz Oh?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, like I didn't or any witch movie Okay,
Speaker 1: I just but I didn't look at like a real
Speaker 1: woman and think like, yeah, she's evil, she's a witch. No,
Speaker 1: I was totally afraid that the characters would come to life.
Speaker 2: God right, Okay.
Speaker 1: And I used to have this dream that this witch
Speaker 1: would pose as my mom and I would have to
Speaker 1: choose every night which one was my real mom, and
Speaker 1: every time I made a choice, I woke up before
Speaker 1: I found out if.
Speaker 4: It was the right choice. And then somehow I just
Speaker 4: grew out of that.
Speaker 1: Like, I don't remember what stopped me from having those dreams,
Speaker 1: but I just stopped anyway. So, yes, I was afraid
Speaker 1: of ghosts, But I don't think that I thought.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 1: I think I always saw ghost as whatever was presented
Speaker 1: to me in movies and TV.
Speaker 2: Okay, so it wasn't something like that you thought was
Speaker 2: a real thing.
Speaker 4: Oh no, not at all.
Speaker 1: Like I didn't think that I could see. I didn't
Speaker 1: think that ghosts were like in the Ghost movie with
Speaker 1: Whoopie Gobert. Yeah, you know, I thought ghosts were like monsters.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, sure, so, and they can be I mean,
Speaker 2: from what I hear, the ghosts can be all different
Speaker 2: kinds of things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1: So I'm waking up at two thirty in the morning
Speaker 1: every day this you know, blocked callar blocked caller, even
Speaker 1: when my phone was on silent. To this day, my
Speaker 1: phone is always on silent because of this, right, because
Speaker 1: it disturbed my sleep so much.
Speaker 4: So one day I wake up and.
Speaker 1: Instead of like looking for the phone, like before I
Speaker 1: could even wake up and look for the phone, the
Speaker 1: moment I opened my eyes, this small little brown man
Speaker 1: is just standing above me. And the best way, the
Speaker 1: best way I can describe him is like he looked
Speaker 1: like Gandhi. He looked like Gandhi, but he didn't have
Speaker 1: the presence of Gandhi. When I think of Gandhi, I
Speaker 1: would think that Gandhi is like a peaceful, nice person
Speaker 1: to encounter.
Speaker 2: Right, like you in a comedy club in the back
Speaker 2: of the room. That's what I think of energy.
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, this guy was just like standing over me.
Speaker 2: But when you say standing over, you like hovering like
Speaker 2: horizontally above you as.
Speaker 1: You're leaving out, or standing standing by the bed, almost
Speaker 1: like how people stand by the bed in a high
Speaker 1: hospital when they're like looking at it, you know, like
Speaker 1: standing by the side of a relative this laying in
Speaker 1: a hospital bed, just like standing over me, but staring,
Speaker 1: not in a comforting way, not in a super aggressive.
Speaker 4: Way, just just you know, just there. I can't remember, Okay,
Speaker 4: I can't.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: I mean sometimes in those moments you don't because I
Speaker 2: ask people this all the time, like I want to
Speaker 2: know what this ghosts look like. But sometimes it's like
Speaker 2: you're not really like, oh, let me just take a
Speaker 2: moment to look down, okay, the shoes, the hat.
Speaker 4: Like yeah, no, I didn't do that. I didn't do
Speaker 4: that because it never lasted that long for me.
Speaker 2: Oh what do you mean, like would he dissolve?
Speaker 1: He I don't know if he would dissolve or if
Speaker 1: I would readjust to see if I'm seeing what I'm
Speaker 1: actually seeing, meaning like sit up and then and then
Speaker 1: now I'm in Now I'm fully awake, so I don't
Speaker 1: see anything.
Speaker 4: Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1: But what I do remember is the strong color was brown.
Speaker 1: I think that's the reason why I'm describing him as
Speaker 1: like Gandhi, because when I just think of Gandhi, I
Speaker 1: think of brown.
Speaker 4: I think of like, you know, very like flowy.
Speaker 1: Clothing almost, and that's kind of what that's the image
Speaker 1: that I remember and the thing that So this happened
Speaker 1: a couple of nights in a row.
Speaker 4: But then when it got a bit alarming to me
Speaker 4: was at some point during this my younger sister and
Speaker 4: my nephew came to visit me, and my nephew was
Speaker 4: sleeping on the couch. And I lived in a.
Speaker 1: Loft space, so I could see everything. If I'm sitting
Speaker 1: on a couch, I could see my bed and vice versa.
Speaker 1: So in my bed, I could see my nephew sleeping
Speaker 1: on my couch. And so this time, when I woke
Speaker 1: up at two something in the morning, the guy, the
Speaker 1: brown Gandhi figure is standing over my nephew, and that
Speaker 1: that kind of bugged me out. And so at that
Speaker 1: point I spoke to him, but he didn't speak back.
Speaker 1: I said, hey, because like, you know, how you can
Speaker 1: be scared of something, but the moment you have to
Speaker 1: like protect the child or protect somebody that can't finn
Speaker 1: for themselves, it's like something immediately kicks in. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: And so I just said hey, and then he disappeared.
Speaker 2: But wait, so in that circumstance, I mean, was that
Speaker 2: a kind of thing where you sat up and readjusted
Speaker 2: and he was gone.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, it was all a split second when
Speaker 1: I say, he disappeared, like I don't even remember him
Speaker 1: acknowledging me.
Speaker 4: Like even when I said, hey, I don't he didn't
Speaker 4: turn and look at me.
Speaker 2: So you saw him like from the back, like.
Speaker 1: From the like from profile you have, like the backside. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I knew it was the same. It was the
Speaker 1: same feeling, it was the same size.
Speaker 2: But were you like originally when he was visiting you,
Speaker 2: were you terrified or how was what were you feeling?
Speaker 1: Because I was, I was uncomfortable, so I was so
Speaker 1: I was too afraid to go back to sleep. That's
Speaker 1: why it was so bothersome because I felt like I
Speaker 1: was almost like suffering from insomnia because once I would
Speaker 1: wake up at that time. Now I'm too I've seen
Speaker 1: what I've seen, so I can't go back to I
Speaker 1: don't trust going back to sleep sure, because I'm like,
Speaker 1: maybe he'll just go back, He'll just come back.
Speaker 2: It's like that's what he wants, so he can just
Speaker 2: stare at you.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And so a friend of mine, so when that happened,
Speaker 1: I was like, something has to change, right, something has
Speaker 1: to stop, and I wasn't sure if it were it
Speaker 1: was me.
Speaker 4: I remember the.
Speaker 1: Next night I slept in the place that I slept
Speaker 1: on the couch and gave my nephew and my sister
Speaker 1: to bed because I was like, well, let's see what
Speaker 1: happens if I sleep somewhere.
Speaker 2: Now, did you tell them?
Speaker 4: I can't remember, Okay, I can't remember. I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 4: I didn't tell my nephew. He was a baby. He
Speaker 4: was like two years he was like one or two
Speaker 4: years old.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I can't remember if I told my sister.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I did because I feel like
Speaker 1: there's something she would be like remember when I go, like,
Speaker 1: you know, she would bring it up.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: But I did tell my really close friend who was
Speaker 1: also my neighbor, and I was like, I'm losing sleep,
Speaker 1: Like I'm so stressed, I'm uncomfortable.
Speaker 4: It's something.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's me, Like maybe I have
Speaker 1: this bad energy. I was like, or something is in
Speaker 1: my apartment. And I had these like really big windows
Speaker 1: in my apartment. I feel like this happens still to
Speaker 1: this day. I have these really big windows in my
Speaker 1: current apartment now, and I feel like every so often
Speaker 1: I'll look in the window and I'm not seeing what's outside.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing I see someone's reflection, like in my apartment.
Speaker 1: But right now I feel like I'm in control of it. Now,
Speaker 1: I just have the thought get out of here, and.
Speaker 4: Then it's just gone, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: But I used to feel that way in the other apartment.
Speaker 1: So I wasn't sure if it was the place or me, right,
Speaker 1: And so I decided to fast, and because I was like,
Speaker 1: I need some sort of like clarity, right, And so
Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna fast for three days. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna do anything but drink water. If I need a
Speaker 1: bit of energy or something, I'd like drink some kombucha, right.
Speaker 1: And so I'm just trying to like fast and meditate.
Speaker 1: And of the friend of mine who said I have
Speaker 1: the halo, I remember going to her house on the
Speaker 1: last day that I fasted and telling her about it.
Speaker 4: And I feel like she told me who it was.
Speaker 1: How does she know because she feels like she has
Speaker 1: like that sort of premonition stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh he has that friend, but I can't remember.
Speaker 4: No, she couldn't tell me who the person was. But
Speaker 4: she knew the call.
Speaker 1: She was like, the calls are not from a guy,
Speaker 1: they're from a woman, but the woman is attached to
Speaker 1: a guy that you like, like like somebody's like it's
Speaker 1: almost like a spirit for the woman. Yo.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So she also told me that to sage my place.
Speaker 2: Sure, so I.
Speaker 1: Had never in my I don't even know if I
Speaker 1: heard a sage at that point, like or knew what
Speaker 1: sage was. And so my friend, who was also my neighbor,
Speaker 1: which is a different woman, not the premonition dream seeing
Speaker 1: a halo over my head woman, she comes to my
Speaker 1: house that night and we opened the door, we open
Speaker 1: the windows, and we like the sage big thing of sage,
Speaker 1: and she sages my entire apartment, like the floor, all
Speaker 1: the way to all the doorways, and then finally she
Speaker 1: goes to my front door and as she's saging it,
Speaker 1: she just starts telling something get out, like get out.
Speaker 4: I hate to say get out now because like the movie.
Speaker 1: She was like get out like but but like really aggressively,
Speaker 1: like you have.
Speaker 2: To go, Yeah, you have to go talk to him
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: And I sat on my bed as she was doing this.
Speaker 1: I felt so helpless. I felt kind of crazy. I
Speaker 1: felt really weak and not physically weak, but like is
Speaker 1: this crazy, like you know, like like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: what is my life?
Speaker 4: You know like that, Like I felt really like I
Speaker 4: had lost control and she did that. We talked for
Speaker 4: a little while and I remember sleeping like a dullion
Speaker 4: baby that night.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: And it didn't it never came back.
Speaker 4: Never came back. Interesting, Yeah, never came.
Speaker 2: I want to know who this is and what the
Speaker 2: relationship is between I mean, because it didn't happen. You
Speaker 2: had already been living there and it wasn't happening. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then it all.
Speaker 4: Started and then it just started happening.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Maybe somebody brought it in.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, maybe someone had it attached to them. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Maybe that guy you were dating was like he left
Speaker 2: it with you.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I have no idea, but I know that
Speaker 1: it's really interesting because as much as I can describe
Speaker 1: really to you, I can still see it right now,
Speaker 1: see the man I can seeyeah, I can see me
Speaker 1: Like I feel like I'm in my bed right now
Speaker 1: and I'm looking up at him.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: But tell me this something I'm always so curious about
Speaker 2: when people see ghosts. Could the first time you saw him, especially,
Speaker 2: did you think it was a human being, like an.
Speaker 4: Actual man, actual human being.
Speaker 2: See, that would terrify me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it was an actual human being.
Speaker 1: But it kind of like stopped so fast, almost like
Speaker 1: he's there and then not there so fast the the
Speaker 1: moment you can get terrified.
Speaker 4: It's so you can't even it's like, oh, yeah, you
Speaker 4: get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Total, it's like that. It's like one of those things
Speaker 2: I think about sometimes. I'll watch like documentaries about the
Speaker 2: OJ trial or like, I don't know, some like some
Speaker 2: of these trials where people are being there on the
Speaker 2: stand and they're trying they're being asked to describe the
Speaker 2: person that they saw, and it's like in normal life,
Speaker 2: you don't you don't take in all these details necessarily
Speaker 2: when something happened so fast, you know, it's like it
Speaker 2: already happened by the time, you know, you would have
Speaker 2: been able to think about that kind of a thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they say they say that we tend to recall
Speaker 1: the memory we've created.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard that.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but.
Speaker 1: I can say this. This is probably gonna affect my
Speaker 1: sleep tonight. No, it's okay, but it's probably because I'm
Speaker 1: kind of like uneasy in that way.
Speaker 4: Although so the place.
Speaker 1: That I live in now that I've lived this is
Speaker 1: the longest that I've ever lived in a place, in
Speaker 1: one place in la This is the apartment that I'm
Speaker 1: in now. And I sleep so peacefully right, well so
Speaker 1: so so peacefully.
Speaker 4: I don't care what's happening in the other rooms, you know.
Speaker 1: Like the lights, Like I have like one little night
Speaker 1: light in the hallway, but I be.
Speaker 4: Knocked out right. But every so often.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in a dream and somebody is
Speaker 1: like holding me down and then I try to get up,
Speaker 1: like like I try to get up, but I can't
Speaker 1: get up. It's like somebody's holding me down in real life.
Speaker 2: Well, see that could be. Do you know about sleep paralysis? No,
Speaker 2: that's something we talk about a lot. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: like a scientific thing, but it happens to people where
Speaker 2: you wake up. It's one of these things that I
Speaker 2: don't like to even talk about that much because apparently
Speaker 2: they say that the more you talk about it, the
Speaker 2: more likely it is to happen, because it's kind of
Speaker 2: like mental in a way. But it's basically, like, what
Speaker 2: is it your brain wakes up, but your body has
Speaker 2: not woken up yet. And it happens to I mean,
Speaker 2: it might happen to everybody at one point or another,
Speaker 2: and it feels like your body is paralyzed, but you're
Speaker 2: fully awake, And a lot of people will report it
Speaker 2: feels like people are pushing someone's pushing you down, And
Speaker 2: people also can report seeing things. That's the part that
Speaker 2: scares me.
Speaker 1: So I was gonna say that too. I always feel
Speaker 1: like there's somebody in the room with me.
Speaker 2: That's what they say. People talk about it on this
Speaker 2: show all the time. Yeah, and there is science behind it,
Speaker 2: but I mean, come on, that is also paranormal in
Speaker 2: my opinion, Like, that's some ghosty shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I do things now that get me out of it.
Speaker 2: Quicker, What do you do? Because I'm terrified of it happening.
Speaker 2: It's it's you sleep on your back. That's my other question.
Speaker 4: I always ask people, sleep on my stomach, on my side?
Speaker 2: So do I And I hear that it happens more
Speaker 2: when you sleep on your back.
Speaker 1: Oh you know, I could never sleep on my bed. No, No,
Speaker 1: that's like a coffin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but wait, so when you were sleeping before when
Speaker 2: the guy would hover, so you would like you be
Speaker 2: on your stomach or your side.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'll be on my side.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, So imagine all the times you were
Speaker 2: on your stomach and he was there.
Speaker 4: Still tell you he's going out wherever he is. He's
Speaker 4: happy because he's out there.
Speaker 1: Your problem anymore, he's not, you know, And it's it's
Speaker 1: really interesting because he didn't look I think the reason
Speaker 1: why I didn't like. Yes, at first I thought it
Speaker 1: was like an actual man, right, But I think that's
Speaker 1: why I keep saying, Gandhi, it's just like, that's not
Speaker 1: a threatening.
Speaker 4: Looking man to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, although I knew that, I didn't feel comforted by
Speaker 1: the presence.
Speaker 4: Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: Sure? Well, here's how I feel as a person. If
Speaker 2: there's any man, I don't care if it's the most
Speaker 2: peaceful man in the world. If you're just standing in
Speaker 2: front of my bed when I did not invite you over.
Speaker 4: It's a problem.
Speaker 2: I'm terrified.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Or we're about to fuck. I don't know, I'm terrified.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if I didn't invite you over, I mean, if
Speaker 1: we're about to fuck, I don't think I gave you
Speaker 1: consent because I didn't tell you to come home exactly.
Speaker 2: So well he lost your number, right because the number
Speaker 2: whoever was calling you or you said that that was
Speaker 2: attached to a woman's spirit.
Speaker 4: Well that's what my friend said. I don't know, but
Speaker 4: that all stopped.
Speaker 2: So interesting that all stopped. I like the part about
Speaker 2: how you were waking up even though you couldn't hear
Speaker 2: your phone.
Speaker 4: I couldn't hear the phone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, that's spooky to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 1: Now, like my phone is always on silence. So if
Speaker 1: I wake up in the middle of the night to
Speaker 1: a phone call, that's like spirit, that's like God.
Speaker 4: Wants me to get your phone call. Oh totally, because
Speaker 4: I don't. My phone is.
Speaker 1: Never on side, especially now like I work a lot,
Speaker 1: you know, I can't. I At that time, I was
Speaker 1: losing so much sleep. But it's fine because I didn't
Speaker 1: have a job to go to. The stakes in my
Speaker 1: life weren't that high.
Speaker 4: You know. But now it would be the little sleep
Speaker 4: that I get it.
Speaker 1: It would be really bad if if something was interrupting
Speaker 1: that over and over and over again.
Speaker 2: I really hope that you don't lose sleep because of
Speaker 2: those me too.
Speaker 4: You know, when I saw.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I saw us. Oh yeah, And
Speaker 1: when I was in I was in Vancouver earlier this year,
Speaker 1: and I was fine in that apartment. I had to
Speaker 1: live in Vancouver for three and a half months to
Speaker 1: shoot something and I slept in that apartment. Like from
Speaker 1: the first night, everything was good. Everything was good. I
Speaker 1: was able to turn out all the lights and apartment too,
Speaker 1: but because I like lived in this like high ride,
Speaker 1: so all the lights of Vancouver just lit up the
Speaker 1: apartment right, So it was it was perfect.
Speaker 4: Then maybe like a month in I saw us. Could
Speaker 4: not sleep.
Speaker 2: I sleep with the lights on ever since I started
Speaker 2: this podcast.
Speaker 1: Really, yes, I could not. I just knew Lou Pizza
Speaker 1: was walking in the room.
Speaker 2: When I saw that. When that trailer dropped, I was
Speaker 2: so excited about it because I loved get Out so much.
Speaker 2: And I was sitting in my car and it was
Speaker 2: like eleven PM and I saw I was like going
Speaker 2: through my phone and I saw that it had just dropped.
Speaker 2: It was like I have to watch this, and I'm
Speaker 2: like I didn't even know what it was about, and
Speaker 2: I was just watching it and it was so fucking scary.
Speaker 2: I could not leave my car. Yeah, and I'm just
Speaker 2: in my car with windows all around me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean part of that
Speaker 1: is like our imagination.
Speaker 4: It shows you how strong the mind is, you know,
Speaker 4: like what we can. It's like, you know, when I
Speaker 4: was a kid.
Speaker 1: A pile of clothes on the floor or a pillow
Speaker 1: misshaped would look my imagination would make it so much right,
Speaker 1: and I will run with that like, oh my god, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the blob coming to get me right now. If like,
Speaker 1: let's say I have like a robe hanging on my door,
Speaker 1: and I know that it's the robe when I turn
Speaker 1: my lights off, and then I look at it and
Speaker 1: it looks like something different, like it looks like somebody's
Speaker 1: hanging on my door.
Speaker 4: I know, my I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think I've trained my mind enough now to like
Speaker 1: that's the robe. And if you get up and like,
Speaker 1: you idiot, that's the robe.
Speaker 2: But even after having an experience with what I would
Speaker 2: consider a ghost, yeah, you still can. You're still able
Speaker 2: to be like, ni'san a ghost, it's a blob, or
Speaker 2: it's clothes or whatever.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, the actual clothes, because I do know that
Speaker 1: it's it's clothing, Like I don't. I don't believe my
Speaker 1: robe is going to come up live. If my robe
Speaker 1: comes alive, I'm running out yo yo.
Speaker 4: I saw have a balcony.
Speaker 1: My apartment has a balcony right and they were doing
Speaker 1: construction in the building close to it. And one night
Speaker 1: I was just sitting on my couch with the balcony
Speaker 1: door open, eating in an asai bowl, and a rat
Speaker 1: ran in my apartment from the balcony. The rat looked terrified.
Speaker 1: But what the rat didn't know is I'm more terrified
Speaker 1: of rats. I threw up my asai bowl in the air.
Speaker 1: I did not have on shoes. I did was almost naked.
Speaker 1: I ran straight out the door, barefoot, down the stairs
Speaker 1: out my building until I saw security and I'm screaming
Speaker 1: like a mad woman. Security is like, and I mean,
Speaker 1: I looked like somebody assaulted me.
Speaker 4: They were like, oh my god, what happened.
Speaker 1: Well, I was like, it's been They think it's a
Speaker 1: person in my apartment. I'm going crazy. And then when
Speaker 1: I finally calmed down, they were like, what is it.
Speaker 1: I was like, and an, it is something my apartment.
Speaker 1: They thinking it's a rat, it's, you know, a possum.
Speaker 4: I was like a rat. They looked at me like
Speaker 4: a rat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but rats have so many diseases that that's a
Speaker 2: genuine thing to be scared of.
Speaker 1: You're lucky I didn't move out the apartment. That's how
Speaker 1: much I don't mess with Rodent no, you know. And
Speaker 1: so security came in my building and they.
Speaker 4: Got the rat out. But also I left.
Speaker 1: I left my apartment for a month because I couldn't
Speaker 1: stay there because of the rat. Because not because of
Speaker 1: course I didn't. So first of all, my my building minute,
Speaker 1: they had to come in. They had to send everybody
Speaker 1: in to move all my furniture, refrigerator, washing dryer, to
Speaker 1: make sure there were no openings. That's how paranoid I was.
Speaker 1: They had to take pictures to show me there's no openings.
Speaker 1: That rat was just that rat came through the balcony
Speaker 1: and left. It was a freak accident. Yeah, right, But
Speaker 1: I could. I left that night it happened. I grabbed,
Speaker 1: I grabbed what I could really quick, and I stayed
Speaker 1: out of my apartment for like a month.
Speaker 2: See, but why weren't you like that when there was
Speaker 2: a man next to your bed.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think because I knew that that
Speaker 1: was spirit, like ghosts are still spirit.
Speaker 4: It's still spirit. And I know that. I know that
Speaker 4: what I believe about spirits are.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they're lost, sometimes they're good, sometimes they're bad. But ultimately,
Speaker 1: in this world, we still have the power.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't rats. Rats are very real.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, rats are just I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know. That's a real thing. I grew up
Speaker 4: in New York City.
Speaker 1: I've encountered rats more often than I would like to.
Speaker 1: So rats are very real and terrifying for me that
Speaker 1: once that that ghosty or whatever you want to call them.
Speaker 1: You know, who knows what, like, we'll never know, but
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: That I know it's scary.
Speaker 4: It's it is.
Speaker 1: It is scary when you think about it, because you
Speaker 1: especially if it looks a little bit dark, you think
Speaker 1: that it's negative, you know, But I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: know who that. I don't know who that was. But
Speaker 1: I also know that I you know, like like you said,
Speaker 1: I have good energy. So I also do believe that
Speaker 1: I'm protected in the spirit world.
Speaker 2: I could see that.
Speaker 1: I do believe that, and so even when I get
Speaker 1: a little bit wonky, you know, I think, and I
Speaker 1: think the more that I live and the more that
Speaker 1: I grow, I get even more comfortable with being protected
Speaker 1: in the spirit world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. So, Now, are you interested in having more
Speaker 2: ghosts or no?
Speaker 4: No, no, no.
Speaker 2: What about so you're you're not gonna go on a
Speaker 2: ghost with me? No, you're not going to see. One
Speaker 2: thing that we talk about some news on this show
Speaker 2: is I'm obsessed with on eBay, they sell like haunted
Speaker 2: dolls and like haunted objects, which like who knows if
Speaker 2: they really are, but they say it's haunted. If I
Speaker 2: bought one for you, you wouldn't accept the guests.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: Wait, I was actually right before I was talking to
Speaker 2: you tonight. I was on eBay and I was just
Speaker 2: looking like, I.
Speaker 1: Don't even show it to me because I have one
Speaker 1: of those memory if you show it, okay, I won't
Speaker 1: be able to get it.
Speaker 4: Don't even show it to me.
Speaker 2: Can I tell you like a description of one?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, not not a visual description like what they
Speaker 2: What these people do is they'll tell you the backstory
Speaker 2: of the ghost that's attached to the doll. And they're
Speaker 2: just so they're basically like, if you buy this doll,
Speaker 2: this is who's coming with it?
Speaker 4: You want it, and people actually buy it like they
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 2: I guess I don't know. So this doll, which I
Speaker 2: won't describe what it looks like, it says this is Marie.
Speaker 2: She's just says she's sixteen years old and died from
Speaker 2: meningitis in the eighteen hundreds. She has told me that
Speaker 2: she's a very that she had a very good life
Speaker 2: before she got sick, and she really doesn't want to
Speaker 2: pass over till she finds her family. Oh, this is
Speaker 2: all sad. Marie does cry sometimes at night because she
Speaker 2: misses her family so much. She does move around the
Speaker 2: house in different rooms on her own free will. When
Speaker 2: Marie died, she died at the hospital and in her
Speaker 2: bed instead of the hospital. She has told me her
Speaker 2: family owned a ranch with horses. She has mostly positive energy.
Speaker 2: I have only had her for a month or so,
Speaker 2: and I'm not sure of other things she may do.
Speaker 2: Please remember that she is being shipped, so she may
Speaker 2: be scared or shy when you receive her, and don't
Speaker 2: give up on her. I will miss her and hope
Speaker 2: she finds a fami family who will treat her right. Then,
Speaker 2: Why is this person selling it if there's whatever, and
Speaker 2: then it says it always says this. Per eBay's rules
Speaker 2: and regulations, you are purchasing a physical doll, no promises
Speaker 2: of the same experience or others happening. eBay forbids the
Speaker 2: sales of intangible items. You are only purchasing a doubt.
Speaker 2: So basically you legally can't sell a spirit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, basically, you know, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't quite as much as that stuff does scare me,
Speaker 1: like the thought of it, And I don't have like
Speaker 1: dolls in my house instead, like like inanimate objects that
Speaker 1: take on the look of.
Speaker 4: A human or an animal or something.
Speaker 1: I've never even as a kid, I never did that,
Speaker 1: like played with dolls and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: But I would literally have.
Speaker 1: To see a doll walk across the room. And if
Speaker 1: a doll walked across the room, the doll could have
Speaker 1: the room.
Speaker 4: That's no longer my room. I'm done. You'll never see
Speaker 4: me in that room again or that.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, I don't, Well, I'm
Speaker 2: just saying, if you know it's the holiday season, if
Speaker 2: you would like a present, I'd be happy to get you.
Speaker 2: Marie the sixteen year old make it.
Speaker 1: They always make the dog they see that's like scary.
Speaker 1: But then if you think about something like remember.
Speaker 2: Ted, Oh yeah, a Teddy Bear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a teddy that's like a fun Teddy Bear.
Speaker 1: M I mean that's that's what what would you describe Ted?
Speaker 1: There's like a just like a thirty year old douche.
Speaker 2: That No, that's a ghost, a ghost inside of a
Speaker 2: Teddy Bear.
Speaker 4: Exactly, but a fun ghost, a really funier response.
Speaker 2: So you would you be open to a fun ghost?
Speaker 4: No? I just like, if you got human qualities, I
Speaker 4: want you to look like a human. Oh okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: I want you to just be a human.
Speaker 2: But what about people that say, like, oh, my dog
Speaker 2: is just like, you know, a human.
Speaker 4: I don't that's their life, Like I don't have I
Speaker 4: don't have that. I don't know that, you know. I
Speaker 4: was staying on stage one night.
Speaker 1: I was like, after I killed this fly, I had
Speaker 1: killed this fly and I felt bad after I killed
Speaker 1: the fly, like.
Speaker 4: Dang, what's the fly?
Speaker 1: That was just like playing, you know, like having fun.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, or what if the fly
Speaker 1: and then the other fly that was with it? Because
Speaker 1: I don't know, for some reason, I just made them
Speaker 1: a duo. I was like, it started buzzing, like really loud,
Speaker 1: and I was like, what if it's trying to tell
Speaker 1: me something? And I was like, I feel so bad,
Speaker 1: like if anybody was sent back, you know, as another
Speaker 1: creature to tell me something, like if you get sent
Speaker 1: back it's like an insect or a rodent, I'm never
Speaker 1: going to get the message exactly.
Speaker 2: So I just that could have been someone that was like, girl,
Speaker 2: don't do this or do that.
Speaker 4: I never well, I said that to the fly.
Speaker 1: I was like, what what do you want?
Speaker 4: I said.
Speaker 2: I was like, might have been somebody trying to give
Speaker 2: you a message.
Speaker 4: I'm saying I'll never know. I'll never know, you won't
Speaker 4: I'll never know.
Speaker 2: Well, do you want to listen to some ghost voices?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: God, it's gonna keep you up at night, it is,
Speaker 2: but yeah, don't. I don't want to do that. Don't
Speaker 2: put that know if it.
Speaker 1: Is, But you know what, I have a late night
Speaker 1: spot tonight, so there'll be like a good amount of
Speaker 1: time and spot up the improv.
Speaker 4: The improv is haunted. He was gonna send me a
Speaker 4: comedy store.
Speaker 2: Well, because that one is haunted.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The Improv. There's been stories, but I think I have
Speaker 2: a pretty good grasp of what's haunted or not, and
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 4: You know where I'm fund.
Speaker 2: You know where I think it's haunted at the improv
Speaker 2: is the upstairs in the bar. Do you ever go
Speaker 2: up there?
Speaker 4: Rarely?
Speaker 2: But I feel like everyone's very rarely up there. But
Speaker 2: I think that the little side room up there, there's
Speaker 2: I had a feeling up there one time.
Speaker 1: But yeah, whenever i'm like backstage in like the main
Speaker 1: room or sometimes if you've ever had to go like
Speaker 1: up like almost where the like like upstairs in the
Speaker 1: comedy So not where the belly room is, but there's.
Speaker 2: An offices are and stuff.
Speaker 1: Not just not but have you ever tried to get
Speaker 1: up into the like sound booth now the main room?
Speaker 1: Oh that that is spooky as fuck up there.
Speaker 2: Well you know it is confirmed haunted, is it? Oh
Speaker 2: my god, it's super famously haunted.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, who's there?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's like old mafia ghosts. It used
Speaker 2: to be like a mafia run place.
Speaker 4: But that's great. They don't care. They're just there.
Speaker 2: Well they're not trying to bother, no, justin Martindale came
Speaker 2: on here and he has some spooky spooky So a
Speaker 2: lot of comics have ghost story. Yeah, next time you're there,
Speaker 2: if you want to stay up all night, ask around
Speaker 2: and be like, is this place haunted? And people will
Speaker 2: tell you.
Speaker 4: I mean, I know, I know, I've heard that a lot.
Speaker 1: I used to like do a lot of shows at
Speaker 1: the Comedy Store, But I mean, I don't want to know.
Speaker 4: I like, I like being a blue is to ignorance?
Speaker 2: Is blue?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I don't.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's listen to ghost voice. Okay, okay, it is
Speaker 2: time for EVP or ev Please. Do you know what
Speaker 2: EVP is?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Okay, it's electronic voice phenomenon. So it's like when in
Speaker 2: like ghost hunting, people record ghosts, like they just hold
Speaker 2: out a recorder and ask questions and then sometimes they hear.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's like and then they think the ghost is
Speaker 2: saying like, oh the ghost is mad at me, or
Speaker 2: like I don't know, like that it's up. It's like
Speaker 2: we can't.
Speaker 4: Hear it with that with our ear. They have to
Speaker 4: kind of turn.
Speaker 2: The Sometimes sometimes they're crystal clear. Oh wow, okay, but
Speaker 2: it's up to the ghost hunter to determine what they
Speaker 2: believe the ghost is saying. Okay, So I like to
Speaker 2: go to YouTube. I like to find EVPs, and I
Speaker 2: like to have my guests, my guests guess what they
Speaker 2: think the ghost hunter this ghost is saying. Okay, and
Speaker 2: sometimes it's an EVP, and sometimes it's an ev.
Speaker 4: Police And what's the ev police?
Speaker 2: Like? More like?
Speaker 3: Please?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Okay, here's the first one. Now, this is
Speaker 2: from East Coast Paranormal. Uh is the name of the
Speaker 2: YouTube channel, and it's from the haunted Hinsdale House in
Speaker 2: New in Hinsdale, New York. You ever been to Hinsdale? No,
Speaker 2: I haven't either, but it this place is spooky. Okay.
Speaker 2: It is like a very famous haunted house that is
Speaker 2: now a place that some guy that's really into paranormal
Speaker 2: investigator or girler. I'm not sure who it is, but
Speaker 2: I know famous, like a paranormal investigator owns this place
Speaker 2: and now people can like pay to go and like
Speaker 2: go ghost hunting. But wait, wait, I also found this article.
Speaker 2: I'll just read you real quick. Okay, It's called the
Speaker 2: Hensdale House. This is I found this article on weekinweird
Speaker 2: dot Com. And okay, so in the early seventies, the
Speaker 2: Dandy family moved into this the century old farmhouse, thinking
Speaker 2: that they finally finally found their dream home in the country,
Speaker 2: but they would soon discover that the truth was far
Speaker 2: more terrifying. Within days, they began to experience strange paranormal
Speaker 2: activity that only continued to grow worse as time went on.
Speaker 2: Wait is this going to keep you up in a day? Okay?
Speaker 2: Most often the phenomenon. The phenomena would manifest in the
Speaker 2: form of mysterious of mysterious phone calls, oh shit, sorry,
Speaker 2: and polterguys activities. Sometimes, and at any point, this is
Speaker 2: too much, tap out? Okay, let me know. Sometimes the
Speaker 2: family would even hear chanting emanating from the nearby woods.
Speaker 2: After chalking the strange activity up to over active imaginations,
Speaker 2: the Dandy family then began seeing full body apparitions of
Speaker 2: a way in white, bizarre animal human hybrids, even what
Speaker 2: they believed could be demonic non human entities. One of
Speaker 2: the more frightening stories the family would go on to
Speaker 2: tell was of a night when they noticed a group
Speaker 2: of strange faces staring into their windows. However, mister Dandy
Speaker 2: ran outside to chase away the trespassers. The faces reversed
Speaker 2: and were then peering back at him from inside the house.
Speaker 4: Ooh, that sound like us.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was at this point that the hauntings began
Speaker 2: to turn violent. Objects began levitating around the house, and
Speaker 2: at one point a lamp from the living room threw
Speaker 2: itself at one of the Dandy daughters. The last straw
Speaker 2: came when mister Dandy experienced a state of amnesia, amnesia
Speaker 2: unable to remember one of the most frightening incidents. So anyway,
Speaker 2: it goes on. It's a great read. But they talk
Speaker 2: about how they had a priest come and apparently the
Speaker 2: place is still haunted, and some lady whose name is
Speaker 2: Claire Miller, she wrote a book in the year two
Speaker 2: thousand called Echoes of a Haunting, which was about her
Speaker 2: time when she lived there in the seventies, and it
Speaker 2: has now been seen on the TV show A Haunting
Speaker 2: and Paranormal Lockdown. And they got ghosts is basically what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Okay, so let's hear the first voice. Tell
Speaker 2: me what you think it says. Okay, So first the
Speaker 2: paranorm mimesticator goes, do you remember us from last time?
Speaker 2: And then this is what the voice says, Okay, so
Speaker 2: there's a lot of background noise, but it's a whisper.
Speaker 2: Can you hear anything?
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no, no, okay, is it a
Speaker 5: now we don't b doy toes see who.
Speaker 2: Are you or d just not really anything. Let's try it. No,
Speaker 2: we don't.
Speaker 4: Huh you don't let me answer.
Speaker 2: Well, you said no, no, no, it was not Derrito, so.
Speaker 4: I definitely didn't think it was Dorito's.
Speaker 1: I would say that it was no, we don't, but
Speaker 1: like it could be no, we don't, or it could
Speaker 1: be nothing.
Speaker 2: It could be yeah, I don't know, because he said
Speaker 2: do you remember us, and they go, I don't know
Speaker 2: you They said, no, we don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that sounds It definitely sounds like somebody
Speaker 1: could be like scream.
Speaker 4: Whispering, scream whispering. Yeah, I mean you know, like like yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be I have another one. Okay, it's
Speaker 2: from the same investigation. And what is it saying? I
Speaker 2: heard again?
Speaker 4: I don't know why. I feel like they about to
Speaker 4: make a song.
Speaker 2: They're about to what I mean, you hear like a
Speaker 2: couple like a couple of times with a beat under here,
Speaker 2: yeahs that beat?
Speaker 4: What did they say, what do you think they're saying?
Speaker 2: Well, I'll give you some options. Is it a.
Speaker 6: Okay, b I'm dead, see you're a bitch, or d fine.
Speaker 2: I'll text you.
Speaker 4: Fine, I'll text you. It actually sounds like it actually
Speaker 4: sounds like I'm okay.
Speaker 1: But but only because you put it in my mind
Speaker 1: before you.
Speaker 2: Said those things.
Speaker 4: I couldn't even make out.
Speaker 2: But you know what they think it says. They think
Speaker 2: it says I'm dad.
Speaker 4: But why would it go say that?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe they're realizing that they're not alive anymore.
Speaker 2: I don't know who knows. It's all just as interpretation.
Speaker 4: Unless there's a missing child, a missing person. I don't
Speaker 4: know why I said child a.
Speaker 1: Missing person and that ghost is trying to say.
Speaker 2: Stop looking for me, I'm dead.
Speaker 4: Or not stop looking for me. I'm dead.
Speaker 1: But let you know, let somebody know who is looking
Speaker 1: for me that I'm dead. You don't have to like
Speaker 1: I'm dead. I'm not alive in the world, you know.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Do you ever go to psychics or have you been
Speaker 2: to one?
Speaker 4: I have, Yes, I've been to psychics. And readers are
Speaker 4: the same thing.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, there's different things I mean there's like people,
Speaker 2: the cars, there's tarot cars, there's psychic mediums, there's I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: have you you've been to people that do that have
Speaker 2: those abilities?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Funny enough.
Speaker 1: My friend actually got me, uh a gift for my
Speaker 1: birthday of a psychic reading. I told her she didn't
Speaker 1: have to give me anything, so I understand how that
Speaker 1: is the same sou and she everything she said was
Speaker 1: not correct. I got to ask her direct questions and
Speaker 1: she gave me the answers, and none of them were correct.
Speaker 4: I mean, things as simple as is this show going
Speaker 4: to get picked up?
Speaker 1: I had shot at that time, I had shot a
Speaker 1: bunch of pilots and it was one that I really liked,
Speaker 1: and so I specified. I was like, is this gonna
Speaker 1: She was like, absolutely, it's most certainly gonna nothing nothing
Speaker 1: but every question. I'm just giving you an example of
Speaker 1: one question. But I asked, like, really simple tangible you
Speaker 1: know nothing, absolutely nothing, absolutely nothing.
Speaker 2: Well, it's a good I think that there are a
Speaker 2: lot of people that have realized like it's a great
Speaker 2: way to get money out of people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this this I went on a date with this
Speaker 1: guy was dating for a little while. Our second date
Speaker 1: he took me to a psychic, like you know, one
Speaker 1: of those psychics where you drive by and they have
Speaker 1: like a house and it's like, come in for a
Speaker 1: psychic reading.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a storefront psychic exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: And so we went to one. We actually went to
Speaker 1: one right on bar Ham. Okay, yeah, when you get
Speaker 1: off the one on one, huh, off on bar Ham,
Speaker 1: you like make a rite off the one on one
Speaker 1: going north or west whatever. And she saw us separately,
Speaker 1: like one of us sat on the couch in the
Speaker 1: living room and the other one just went back into
Speaker 1: like a private room with her, and we each had readings.
Speaker 1: And I remember when she first when I first walked in,
Speaker 1: we sat down and she took like, you know's like
Speaker 1: a quick second, and she was like this is just
Speaker 1: for fun, right, And I was like what do you mean.
Speaker 1: She was like, you and him, that's just for fun, right,
Speaker 1: And I was like what do you mean. She was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's just for fun. That's not Yeah, she said, that's
Speaker 1: not You're not serious about this. And when I ifever
Speaker 1: I talk to psychics, I never want to give them
Speaker 1: any indication that they're you know, I'm just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you tell.
Speaker 2: Me, Yeah, that's how you find out. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: And so then she was like, yeah, no, she said,
Speaker 1: I mean enjoy, enjoy yourself. But I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: let's be for real.
Speaker 4: And I wasn't sure if she was like.
Speaker 1: Insulting him or if it was something that she knew.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, like.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, I know good psychics. If you ever want
Speaker 2: to go to one, Okay, I know one. I know
Speaker 2: a few that have been very accurate.
Speaker 4: So can I be really honest with you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So.
Speaker 1: I think that in this one psychic one psychic, that
Speaker 1: the one reading that I had from her at the
Speaker 1: two major things that I remember, she said, the three
Speaker 1: major things, they were.
Speaker 2: All right, oh wow, Okay.
Speaker 1: So she said, she said that this she picked up
Speaker 1: on the same thing that my friend you're halo, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she said, but she said it's actually your She said,
Speaker 1: it's actually a female relative. She was like, I believe
Speaker 1: that it's your grandmother.
Speaker 4: And I think that.
Speaker 1: She's just she's always watching over, she's always protecting you, right,
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, and one of my grandmothers
Speaker 1: is dead and she I really liked her. And she
Speaker 1: told me something about the guy that I would see
Speaker 1: my boyfriend at the time. It was so accurate. It
Speaker 1: all came through true. And she told me something about
Speaker 1: a project that I was working on, and it all
Speaker 1: exactly happened as she said it.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: But the thing about what she said is right when
Speaker 1: I sat down in her chair. Because I'm not really
Speaker 1: comfortable with them, I always say, like a prayer first, right,
Speaker 1: and so she but I don't say I don't do
Speaker 1: a prayer like they can see me do a prayer.
Speaker 1: But I know what I'm doing right, Like the moment
Speaker 1: you and I start talking about ghost stuff, I just
Speaker 1: start praying in my.
Speaker 4: Head too seriously.
Speaker 2: But you don't know.
Speaker 1: You have no idea that I'm doing it right. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so she says to me before she starts, she was like,
Speaker 1: she was like, I'm gonna talk to you and I'll
Speaker 1: reach She was like, but you don't really need me
Speaker 1: to do it. She was like, you all, you have
Speaker 1: your own connection. And I didn't say anything, right, like,
Speaker 1: I didn't confirm or deny it because I don't feel
Speaker 1: like I'm a psychic or reader. But I trust myself
Speaker 1: more than I trust anything. Any person that has a
Speaker 1: connection to the spirit world or has a third eye.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. So I'm like, well, I
Speaker 1: could well if it's about having spiritual guys, you know guys,
Speaker 1: I feel like I can consult.
Speaker 2: Them myself totally. I always feel like we all have
Speaker 2: really strong intuitions. It's just a matter of listening to it.
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't want to. They they're too
Speaker 2: afraid they want to something else looks shiny. It's like
Speaker 2: with dating where you're like, this guy is so cute,
Speaker 2: but he's like got a drug problem, but he's so cute,
Speaker 2: and it's like, you know you're not supposed to be
Speaker 2: with him or whatever. You know, and you know if
Speaker 2: you have those feelings, but you're just you keep telling yourself, yeah,
Speaker 2: but like it might, this might be great or whatever.
Speaker 2: It's like, no, listen to yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah I think, I think I agree with you. But
Speaker 1: I think that also to a lot of people need confirmation.
Speaker 1: They need someone else to solidify, you know, like like
Speaker 1: make them feel like what they're thinking or believing is true.
Speaker 1: Like that's what makes it true if somebody else is
Speaker 1: also saying it.
Speaker 2: But that's what I love a psychic for is when
Speaker 2: I'm on the fence about something like I really like
Speaker 2: my intuition is telling me I should not take this
Speaker 2: job or whatever, but everyone else is telling me I should.
Speaker 2: And it's like, okay, I'm gonna go to say I
Speaker 2: can see what they have to to me. That's like
Speaker 2: flipping a coin. If it's like if it's a psychic,
Speaker 2: I trust, and I'm like, if they say I should
Speaker 2: do it, then I'm gonna do it. No, No, that's
Speaker 2: just me.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, and I get it because my friend who bought
Speaker 1: me the past, she is the same way. She really
Speaker 1: really has strong intuition, but she's also very indecisive, and
Speaker 1: I think it's because she doesn't trust herself. But me,
Speaker 1: it's really interesting and this may be very narcissistic of me,
Speaker 1: but I trust myself more than I trust anybody else.
Speaker 1: So I think the difference is like, when I decide
Speaker 1: to do something, the next step in the decision is
Speaker 1: being okay with it, right, And so for most people,
Speaker 1: as much as you want to decide, the only way
Speaker 1: you can be okay with it is if somebody else
Speaker 1: comes and confirms it.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But me, I don't really need that because I'm already
Speaker 1: once I make the decision, I've already decided I'm okay
Speaker 1: with this, so of course it's the right decision. Yeah,
Speaker 1: whatever happens, because I've already accepted it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel that way. Do you ever feel that way? Sometimes?
Speaker 2: Like if you've committed to doing like a stand up
Speaker 2: set or something, and then you get there or like
Speaker 2: it's about time and you're like, I don't feel like
Speaker 2: doing it, but you're like I have to, Like I
Speaker 2: have to do it, and either I'm gonna hate it
Speaker 2: or I'm gonna love it. But I made the decision
Speaker 2: and now it's up to me to do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I get to shows and I'm like, oh, why
Speaker 1: did I Oh my god, it's gonna be I just
Speaker 1: need to hurry up and do it and get out
Speaker 1: of here and it'll be like the best show I know.
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, And then sometimes I have high expectations like ooh,
Speaker 1: this is the show and I'm like.
Speaker 2: H see, and that's that. But that is the energy too,
Speaker 2: that you're giving off.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: People sometimes they relate to that in a funny way
Speaker 2: where they're like maybe those person seems over it, but
Speaker 2: it's like so funny I don't know. Are you a
Speaker 2: religious person?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What kind of religion?
Speaker 4: Muslim?
Speaker 2: Muslim? That's my thought.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so what.
Speaker 2: Do Muslim people believe even in like the spirit, realm
Speaker 2: and ghosts and like is that a thing?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know about how that much.
Speaker 4: I don't know well, but I know whenever I have
Speaker 4: a bad dream, my mom used to always tell me
Speaker 4: to what is she.
Speaker 6: Does?
Speaker 1: She tell me to throw something over my left shoulder
Speaker 1: or something like that, But I remember it's a certain
Speaker 1: prayer in Arabic that my mom always would tell me
Speaker 1: to recite. She no, she wouldn't tell me to throw something.
Speaker 1: She would tell me to look over at my left
Speaker 1: look over my left shoulder and recite al Fatiha, which
Speaker 1: is the first sora of the Koran. It's like the
Speaker 1: versus in the Koran and Koran. And now that I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about, like at the time, I would just do
Speaker 1: what she's saying. But now that I'm like explaining it
Speaker 1: to you, it makes sense. So when Muslims pray, at
Speaker 1: the end of our prayer, we uh say something to
Speaker 1: both our shoulders, like both are like this is good.
Speaker 1: The over the right shoulder is good and over the
Speaker 1: left shoulder. Are is anything bad? But you give it
Speaker 1: equal So you take equal prayer, you get what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: and so if she's telling me when I'm having a
Speaker 1: bad dream to do it to my left over my
Speaker 1: left shoulder, that means I'm speaking directly. I'm speaking the
Speaker 1: prayer directly to that bad energy or bad spirit or.
Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah. I don't know much about that religion at all.
Speaker 2: I love hearing that. Yeah, So well tell people what
Speaker 2: you got going on where we can find you. I
Speaker 2: know that you just got like a bunch of new fans.
Speaker 1: Oh that's wonderful, you guys can. I'm on social media
Speaker 1: Zanab Johnson on I mostly do Twitter and Instagram. So
Speaker 1: Zane ab Johnson's z A I N A B. Johnson.
Speaker 1: My website is zaneap dot com. I have a bunch
Speaker 1: of fun stuff coming out in the new year. So
Speaker 1: if you guys keep up with me on social media,
Speaker 1: you'll find out about all that stuff. And I have
Speaker 1: my own podcast that you guys can check out. It's
Speaker 1: called Honest T with Z h O n E S
Speaker 1: T E A one word like the Drink with Z.
Speaker 1: It's on Spotify, iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, just everywhere you can
Speaker 1: get podcasts.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, check me out.
Speaker 2: Ah that was Zaynab Johnson. She's amazing and I hope
Speaker 2: that you can check her out because her stand up
Speaker 2: is just truly incredible. I love Zaynab so much. So
Speaker 2: thank you guys for listening, and I really hope you
Speaker 2: have a wonderful end of this year. I hope you
Speaker 2: had a wonderful Christmas if you celebrate that. We still
Speaker 2: have one more episode left for this year, and we're
Speaker 2: onto the next year, and pretty soon we'll be hitting
Speaker 2: our one year anniversary of this show. I can't even
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Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: I love you all, both living and dead. But if
Speaker 2: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me.
Speaker 3: Okay, Bye, Starbans.
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