WEBVTT - What's Wright - Best Of - Thunder ALL-TIME team? Nick reveals Club Superstar, Eagles Top 5 NFL team ever? 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:02.680 Welcome to the best of the Week for What's Right 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:05.360 with Nick Right the best takes in moments from this 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:09.920 week on the show. Enjoy. All right, let's do one 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:12.680 quick NFL thing and then get to some listener questions. 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:16.200 Saquon Barkley told Reid blank and Ship and Cooper Degene 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:17.560 on their podcast that the. 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:22.480 Man did you hold on? Did you know this demand 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:26.640 before we even get to it? I bad news for us. 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:32.879 We're now competing with a red Blanken hip Cooper dejen project. 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:37.520 That's that's That's a nice tand I clear my schedule. 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:40.920 I'm gonna have to catch up on the archives there. 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:46.479 All right, man, oh man, I bet that's an insightful show. 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:49.000 I'm excited to listen. 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:56.639 Okay, go ahead told him that that twenty twenty four 0:00:56.640 --> 0:01:00.560 Eagles team the top five team in NFL history. You're 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:02.200 obviously a NFL historian. 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:05.880 How true is that? Not only is it not true, 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:11.759 it's not even you can't even you can't even make 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:17.720 a credible argument for and by the way, Sakuan said 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:20.200 they were a top five team of all time and 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:26.320 then listed five other teams in his top five, which 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:28.760 then would make them. I guess the top six team 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:31.800 of all time, but one of the teams he listed 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:35.200 was the two thousand Ravens, which is not a top 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:39.080 twenty team of all time. Like, none of this makes sense, 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:47.039 But the seventy two Dolphins that went undefeated had the 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:50.040 number one offense and the number one defense and beat 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:52.600 teams by an average fifteen points a game. That's a 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:56.040 top five team of all time. The eighty four nine 0:01:56.160 --> 0:02:00.480 Ers that went fifteen to one annihilated their po season 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.720 opponents start to finish, had a top two offense, top 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:07.440 two defense. The eighty five Bears that everyone talks about 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:10.400 the greatest defense of all time, which it had, but 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:13.640 it also had the number two offense in the sport 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:17.880 that year and beat their playoff opponents. De Monse ninety 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:22.359 one to ten is a top five team of all time. 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.200 The Bears quarterback ever thrown from more than four thousand yards. 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:26.760 I know because they had. 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:28.359 Defense I guess was amazing. 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:30.720 But okay, the defense was amazing, and they had an 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:33.079 amazing running game. They scored the second most points of 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:39.320 any team in the league that year. The the who 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:42.000 are the other teams? I'm leaving out an obvious one 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:47.560 ninety two Cowboys pretty good. Seventy eight Steelers which had 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.760 I think eleven Hall of Famers, they're pretty good. The 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:53.760 seven Patriots didn't win the Super Bowl. The the greatest team 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:58.359 I've ever seen the twenty sixteen Patriots that went fourteen 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:01.880 and two and ran had a top too offense and defense. 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:05.959 They were pretty good. Uh, the ninety eight Broncos in 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:10.000 route to a back to back championship. Like listen, the 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:15.280 Eagles had the number eight offense, number two defense, and 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:18.680 were in one score playoff games in rounds one in 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:22.680 rounds two? Now, did the Eagles have a top five 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:25.919 Super Bowl performance because of what they did and who 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:28.840 they did it to? Sure? All listen to that. You 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.400 want to say, did they have a top five all 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:37.000 time final two games by just dismantling the Commanders and 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:40.520 then dismantling the Chiefs. Sure, I'll listen to that. But 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:47.280 top five? Yeah, but they still scored fifty five, you 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:50.760 know what I mean? Or whatever they scored like the Sure, 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:58.720 but I just again, everyone just leave the list to me. 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:07.360 Your guys lists suck. And again I just and he 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.960 wouldn't even it was so his top Here were his 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:14.440 top five teams of all time for the record, seventy 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:18.200 two Dolphins because they're undefeated. Good job, eighty five Bears, 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:25.000 good job the two thousand Ravens, who it's not even 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:28.960 a tenable opinion. And then he was like one of 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:32.680 the Brady teams and one of the Mahomes teams, like 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:36.240 that's not even like a thing, and so I just 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:42.400 like whatever, all right, let's remember to everyone like rate, subscribe, 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:47.840 review if you have time to, you know, when you're 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:51.039 not listening to the Read blank and Ship Cooper Degen podcast, 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:52.880 if you want to check out what's right with Nick right, 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:56.760 we'd appreciate it. You know you think I'm being rude there, Demansey. 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:03.039 The podcast, It's gonna be very insightful, and you know. 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:06.280 I'm gonna go do a three cone drill after this 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:07.520 after our pod. 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:13.560 So you unveiled your latest rendition of Club Superstar, and 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:17.200 you took Donovan, you put hot Donovan Mitchell in and 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.640 Hallyan for the first time, you took embiid and a 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:23.640 d out. Could you explain to us your process and 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:26.039 how the club management goes about getting these guys in 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:26.440 and out? 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.480 Yeah, so all right, so tell me. So, here are 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:31.640 the twelve guys in and we can put the graphic 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:42.520 up Halliburton, Brunson, Joker, Shay, Luca, Jannis, braun Steph, Donovan, 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:48.000 Durant and Tatum. It's a twelve person max, So if 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:49.839 you want to put someone in, you got to kick 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:53.480 someone out. We took out Embiid because of all the 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:57.680 injury stuff and ad for similar reasons. You might be like, 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:02.400 then how does Tatum stay in? Tatum has been so 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:07.679 consistent and so durable that you know, one season long 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:10.839 injury does not get him kicked out? Like his spot 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:16.479 is secure? Uh, you seem to have I mean the 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:18.200 hardest call was Donovan. 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:19.800 Donovan Mitchell surprised me. 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:23.800 Yeah, so who would you would you have any of 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:25.520 those guys in over him? 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:27.560 That's what I was I was trying to think of. 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:38.640 I mean, uh, yeah, Anthony Davis is the because. 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:46.560 In line was Wimby, Cad Shingoon and Devin Booker. Wimby 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:50.120 is the obvious next guy in, but he's got to 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:52.600 actually do it, you know what I mean, He's got 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:59.640 to actually earn his way in. And so I I 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:02.560 you know, I did a bit job with that had 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:02.960 all that. 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:06.120 Yeah, I understand how Donovan Mitchell slips in. 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:11.240 There the sorry can you hear me? Sol Demons? 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:12.240 Yes, I've got you. 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:15.520 Okay, good, Sorry about that, my I knocked my AirPod 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.679 out of my ear. I mean, a D is a tough, 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:22.560 tough one. And the argument against Donovan is, you know, 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:24.960 eight years in the league and the playoffs every year, 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:29.320 never in round three. It's hard, though, to use that 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:32.040 as an argument to put a D n over him, 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:36.840 because do I think Donovan could have you know, made 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:41.760 a conference finals or an NBA finals alongside Lebron like 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.360 a D. Did I do? Like we when a D 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:49.600 was the guy he never got past round one. It's 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:55.040 a tricky spot. Donovan is for a guy who hasn't 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:58.240 been deep in the playoffs, he's not a playoff dropper, 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:01.240 like you know what I mean. It's up huge numbers, 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:07.720 and Brew raised the question do we not have twelve superstars? Right? 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:09.600 That's the other thing I was kind of thinking, but 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:12.440 go ahead, It's just like no, go ahead. Was just 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:14.440 looking around at the teams. I'm like, who can get 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:17.400 in over this guy? But it's like it's a little scarce, right. 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:21.760 It's a weird because the league is so deep on 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:26.120 really good players. But maybe a little thin on great, 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:30.080 great players because the other argument was should Kevin Durant 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:34.720 be out? And my answer to that question is, he's 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:39.480 such an iconic player who still plays at a high 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:42.760 enough level. I don't feel comfort He's still twenty seven 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:47.520 a game, you know what, I don't feel comfortable, yeah, 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:50.760 taking him out? So to me, those are the twelve 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:54.720 What are your follow ups here? Yeah? 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.800 I care to explain how Joki took Lebron's throne. 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:05.760 That was an editorial choice made by the artist Jack Perkins, 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:07.760 who does a great job. You can follow him on 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:11.920 Twitter at Pure Hoop and listen. I give him the lists. 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:16.080 He makes the picture. I gotta tell you, I wasn't 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:19.960 thrilled with seeing Lebron out of the throne, but I 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:24.600 guess Jokers earned it for now. But yeah, that was 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:27.880 not I didn't trust me. I didn't I didn't demand 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.000 that now I did hear. 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:31.679 That. 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:35.240 I'm okay with Lebron being moved out of the throne 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.080 because he's no longer in the argument the best player 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:42.000 in the league. MI Pal Simmons yesterday did a top 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:46.640 fifteen player pyramid and didn't have Lebron on that. Now 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:51.520 that's an outrage, Like, that's just objectively that. Here's the 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:56.000 thing about the Lebron rankings that is so irritating to 0:09:56.040 --> 0:10:02.240 me at times, people keep primative surely downgrading him because 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.920 of his age, when we just saw he just finished 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:13.920 sixth in MVP voting, sixth. He just finished firmly second 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:18.080 team All NBA. So why all of a sudden is 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:20.960 he not one of the fifteen best players in the league. 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:27.480 Like you, the Lebron is anywhere you You could fairly 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:34.480 argue for Lebron to be as high as fifth and 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:38.640 as low as tenth best player in the league. But 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:45.559 that's it. And the what is frustrating to me about 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:52.199 Bill's ranking specifically is the he still has Steph Curry 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:56.720 as like the seventh best guy. There's no there's there's 0:10:56.720 --> 0:11:00.760 no way to look at this NBA season and say 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:04.640 Steph was better than Lebron, not by stats, not by 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:08.520 team record, not by individual accolades, not by any of it. 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:10.440 Now you can say his team made it one round 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.160 further in the playoffs, so be it that that part 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:16.959 is true, But that's it was that, but that team 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:20.280 also was and be like, well, how much of Lebron's 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:22.760 team success this year was because they traded for Luca. 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:27.080 STEP's team was sub five hundred when they traded for Jimmy. Like, 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:31.119 that's a weird one for me. But set that aside. 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:35.680 Lebron obviously still superstar. Steph's obviously still a superstar, and 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.000 that's you know, that's where we're at all, right. 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:42.360 Next, do you think that Halliburton still would you still 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:43.960 given him a spot if he would have lost in 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:44.440 round one? 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:52.600 No? Now, I submitted this list before round one was over. 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:57.080 I submitted this list. I took a screenshot of it 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:01.920 yesterday to send to Gianna of when I submitted this list. 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:05.560 I submitted this list May seventh. So let's see where 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:10.840 we were in the playoffs on May seventh. I've got 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.440 to I can pull that up quickly. So when I 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:18.480 submitted this list, we were the games that had just 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:25.440 been played. Is the Pacers had just taken a two 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:30.480 to zero lead on the Caves. Oh, so that's interesting. 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:35.000 I didn't even realize that I submitted this list the 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:42.000 morning after Halliburton executed that insane comeback on the Calves. 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:46.680 And so maybe I, you know, maybe I was kind 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:50.680 of in the afterglow of that. But he's proven me 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:54.640 right by his performances throughout. And the other thing is 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:58.280 so no losing in round one? No, But had they 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:01.079 ended up losing in round two to still been comfortable 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:01.360 with it? 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:05.880 All? 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:10.800 Right? The NBA Finals almost here and every play could 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:14.080 be the one that changes everything. 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Last night, the defense was humming 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:36.960 all of OKC stars were looking good. People want to 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:40.440 talk about the probability of this being a dynasty. You 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:42.720 think they should hold the brakes on it. What is 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:44.920 OKC gunning for here historically? 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:55.080 Well, listen, they are four wins away demons from one 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:59.640 of the single greatest seasons in NBA history. Like that 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:04.720 part is that has to be There's two real metrics 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:09.760 for two hard metrics for how good your seaton, like 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:13.720 how good your season was, and then some softer metrics. 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:16.800 But the first one is how many games did you win? 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:21.720 What was your record? And they have now become the 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:27.400 fourth team ever to enter the finals with eighty victories. 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.960 And now, when we go long to long term history, 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:36.360 you got to recognize that the playoffs have expanded a 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:41.240 bit and changed but a shorthand. You know, the ninety 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:44.840 six Bulls who won seventy two regular season games did it. 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:50.440 The ninety seven Bulls who won sixty nine regular season 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:54.360 games did it. And the seventy three win Warriors who 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:57.400 won seventy three regular season games but did not win 0:16:57.440 --> 0:17:00.800 the championship. They all did it. They all got to 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:07.359 eighty wins before the start of the NBA Finals. So 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:10.560 check off that box. As far as you know, that's 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:13.399 really a regular season stat. It means how many regular 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:16.640 season wins did you get? But we already knew sixty 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:24.280 eight wins. The list of teams to win more than 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:29.800 sixty eight games in a single season are those two seventy, 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:34.840 the seventy two win Balls, the sixty nine win Balls 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:37.720 that I mentioned, the seventy three win Warriors, and then 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:42.360 one other team, the sixty nine Lakers that they went 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:46.240 on to win the championship. That's every team that won 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:50.919 more regular season games than these Thunder The teams to 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:56.840 win sixty eight games are also at least well, one 0:17:56.880 --> 0:18:00.199 of them is an all time team. The other one 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:04.480 came up short to the Knicks in the conference finals. 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:08.720 You have the eighty three Sixers, who I'm sorry, not 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:12.440 the eighty three sixers, the sixty seven sixers, the eighty 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:16.399 three sixers that were I put them there because I 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:19.000 think they're one of the greatest teams ever, the faux 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:22.359 Fox Fox Sixers, but that was not they were not 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:26.280 the dominant regular season team. These teams were. And then 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:29.360 the seventy three Celtics, which came up short, and then 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:33.400 this Thunder team. If we lower the threshold to sixty 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:38.159 seven wins. Then it gets a little fuzzier because you 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:41.320 have some great teams and some not so great teams. 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:45.359 Sixty seven wins, the eighty six Celtics in the short 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:49.280 on the short list of greatest team of all time, Like, 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:54.159 that's pretty undeniable that you've got to at least include 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:57.280 them when you are discussing who are the greatest teams 0:18:57.280 --> 0:18:59.240 of all time? The eighty six Celtics have to be 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:03.280 on that list. The ninety two Bowls, who I actually 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:10.320 think might be maybe the best of the Bulls teams 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.640 that finished off the first three peat. There's at least 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:20.680 an argument there. The two thousand Lakers, the first championship 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:27.719 with Shaq and Kobe, the twenty fifteen Warriors, which is 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:34.520 the first championship with Steph, the twenty seventeen Warriors, the 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:39.800 first championship with Stephan Durant, and then a couple teams. 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:43.600 One that gets kind of is a punchline, and the 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:47.439 other is an all time great team that ran up 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:50.800 against another all time great team. The punchline is the 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:55.359 seven MAVs, who lost in Round one after winning sixty 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:58.080 seven games to the We Believe Warriors. And the other 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:03.439 one is the twenty sixteen Spurs who just happened to 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:08.320 be it. I mean, that team was unbelievable. They got 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:13.760 clipped in round two by the twenty sixteen Thunder, who 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:17.040 then ran into the twenty sixteen Warriors, who then ran 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:21.080 into Pete Lebron James. But so to do this quickly, 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:29.440 teams to win sixty seven plus you have first year 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:33.800 Steph won a title, first year Stephan Kde won a 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:39.320 title together. You have the first year Shaq and Kobe 0:20:39.400 --> 0:20:44.359 won a title. You have Jordan's Bulls the third time 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:46.879 they won a title, and the best Celtics team of 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:50.560 all time, the eighty six Celtics. Those are the sixty 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.119 seven win teams plus the two with that I just 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:55.920 mentioned that didn't win the title. The sixty eight win 0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:59.639 teams are this year's Thunder. And then you add to 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:04.280 it the seventy three Celtics not you know, at a 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:08.359 disappointing playoffs, and then sixty seven six Ers with Wilt 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:13.280 won the title, and then sixty nine win teams Jordan's Bowls, 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:17.320 the fifth championship, the Laker team that had the thirty 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:21.359 three game winning streak in seventy two, the ninety six 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:26.720 Bulls won seventy two, and then the Warriors the seventy 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:30.000 three win Warriors. So that's the company they keep. So 0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:34.320 there's one kind of hard piece of data, how many 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:37.879 games did you win? The other one is were you 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:44.280 blowing people out? And teams that finished the year with 0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:53.280 a ten plus point differential? Eighties last year's Celtics and 0:21:53.320 --> 0:22:00.040 then the eight Celtics, Kareem's Bucks in seventy one, the 0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:04.919 Durant first year Durant Warriors, that other Warriors team the 0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:11.680 first year they won the title, the Bowls a couple times, 0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:18.040 and the Lakers in seventy two. The Thunder beaten teams 0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:22.000 this year by almost thirteen points per game. So they 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:26.800 check both of the hard metric boxes. You then add 0:22:27.240 --> 0:22:31.119 the kind of softer factors. How good was the league 0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:34.840 in that time? I think the league's as talented as 0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:41.119 it's ever been. What was their path to the finals 0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:45.360 and to a championship? That one probably cuts against them 0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:50.600 a bit. They are not going through legendary opponents en route, 0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:53.720 and they won't face a legendary opponent in the finals. 0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:58.240 They did, however, go through a legendary player in Joker 0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:02.800 and that was a classic set game series. Another kind 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:08.240 of soft factor. Did they have an all time player 0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:12.760 on their team all time? I don't know yet, but 0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:15.199 the guy who had the best season this year and Shae, 0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:18.919 Yeah they did. I mean, Shay was unbelievable in the 0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:23.199 regular season, has been almost as good in the playoffs. 0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:25.880 Would not have would not have an all time player 0:23:25.960 --> 0:23:27.159 make it a better feat. 0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:31.840 It might make it more impressive, but it's hard to 0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:36.239 argue when you're talking about the best single seasons in 0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:40.080 NBA history, it's and I left out some of the 0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:42.639 sixty six win teams and some of the best teams 0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:46.800 ever were sixty six win teams. Lebron's Heat that had 0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:52.040 the twenty seven game winning streak I mentioned earlier, the 0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:55.760 eight Celtics, which were awesome. Those were the margin of victories. 0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:59.399 I mentioned Kareem's Bucks that you know there are some 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:03.040 a couple Lakers teams, one with Magic, one with Kobe. 0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:06.439 Oh those were sixty five, not sixty six. But it 0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:10.320 would make it more impressive. Maybe demands, But when we're 0:24:10.320 --> 0:24:12.520 talking about who the greatest teams of all time are, 0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:16.520 and if we're trying to do the hypothetical, if they 0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:20.359 were to match up against each other, right, you want 0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:22.880 to be able to say, our guy can at least 0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:25.879 kind of look eye to eye with your guy. And 0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:31.280 if your guy is peak Wilt Chamberlain or peak Michael 0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:38.120 Jordan or peak Larry Bird, and my guy is yeah, 0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:43.760 Chauncey Billips and again. And I'm just picking a team 0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:46.320 that won the title, even though they're not in the 0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:49.200 all time team discussion. That's gonna be a harder argument 0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:52.640 to make. Shay is making an argument that he's building 0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:56.560 an all time resume. It's a weird one because of 0:24:56.600 --> 0:24:59.439 how he started, and it was a slow progression, but 0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:02.120 he's just got better and better and better every single year. 0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:08.760 I so I am okay with saying this is an 0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:14.280 all time single season. I am not okay with saying 0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:17.680 this is an all time team because what the other 0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:24.959 all time teams had was stacked accomplishments, you know, multiple finals, appearances, 0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:29.280 multiple championships, and the teams kind of bleed together. But 0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:32.399 single season it's that. But that then gets us to 0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:38.600 the point you were making. And I understand Pacer fans maybe, 0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:43.320 or Nick fans even or like, my god, you're acting 0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:46.560 like they won the championship yesterday, and to that I 0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:49.080 would say, no, I'm not. I actually acted like they 0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:53.240 won the championship on Monday night, because to me, they did. 0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:57.120 That was the That was the end of the competitive 0:25:57.200 --> 0:26:01.239 portion of this year's NBA season. And that's not to 0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:04.119 say the Pacers or the Knicks can't beat them in 0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:08.040 a game. But when a team has home court and 0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:13.480 that team beats people in the playoffs at home by 0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:26.399 fifty one, nineteen, forty three, seven, thirty two, twenty six, 0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:33.359 fifteen and thirty with one loss coming on a buzzer beater, 0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:38.359 they're gonna win the championship when they also are a 0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:43.480 team that can, if it were to happen, Demons deal 0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:47.639 with injury better than any other team in the now. 0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:50.280 They can't deal with an injury to Shay, but nobody 0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:53.920 can lose their best player. They could, but they they 0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:59.200 could lose JDub or Chet and still win the championship 0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:03.639 much less lose what I mean, go ahead? 0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:05.920 Oh no, yeah, I don't know. I feel like Cheed 0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:09.040 is such a presence. Chet losing Check probably put them. 0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:13.000 Oh, I think it would change them, but I wouldn't like, 0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:17.080 I wouldn't write them off any of these other teams, 0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:20.520 if they lost one of their three best guys, you 0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:24.600 would basically just write them off. You couldn't do it 0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:27.360 with this team because of how deep they are. So 0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:33.720 I have and I'm not trying to give myself credit here, 0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:39.239 I am trying to remind the audience. I guess I 0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:42.879 was not one of the loud Thunder skeptics. Now. I 0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:46.520 didn't pick them to win the championship because I thought 0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:49.120 the Lakers could beat them. After I saw the Lakers 0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:51.919